Do you guys think these two are possibly the equivalent of each other in regards to their franchises?
Is there a Gundam stronger than 00 Gundam?
And I’m not talking about the GN-0000 00 Gundam. I’m not even talking about the GN-0000/7S 00 Gundam Seven Sword. Hell, I’m not even talking about GNT-0000 00 Qan[T] with the optional Full Saber Equipment and Trans-Am Burst System and with Quantum System techniques, his GN Field, a Perfect GN Sword V and control of the Twin Drive System and GN Sword Bits, with ELS' DNA implanted in him so he also has TOTAL UNDERSTANDING and Space Flower Release Endings.
I'm talking about TRANS-AM mode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 00 Qan[T] with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, with Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken, and having graduated top of his class in the Navy Seals, has been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda with over 300 confirmed kills, is also trained in gorilla warfare and is the top sniper in the entire US armed forces.
No. TFA had a better Macguffin.
>>13686543
>sad but true
are we being raided?
Gundam Unicorn is actually good, on the other hand, The Force Awakens is the worst film of the Star Wars franchise.
>>13686625
>any Star Wars movie
>worse than Attack of the Soppy Forced Love Story
Top lel
>>13686540
Hate to burst your bubble but 00 Gundam is not canon and Turn A is the strongest.
>>13686625
>Gundam Unicorn is actually good
Stopped reading there.
>>13686533
Almost, except for that Episode 7 didn't get anyone into Star Wars. Gundam Unicorn attracted a lot of people who otherwise wouldn't be interested.
Other than that, yes, they are both good fanfictions.
In that they set off worthless nerds who still worship the eighties despite being born in 1995, sure.
Other than that, not really.
Hardly.
But /m/ is afflicted with a peculiar strain of autism that makes it clinically unable to judge anything unless viewed through a Gundam filter, so it may as well be.
>>13686625
>The Force Awakens is worse than any of the prequels
This /tv/ meme needs to stop.
>>13686811
It's not a meme. It's true, all of it.
I don't see how.
They both returned to a well-established timeline/franchise, I guess, but TFA is a full-on sequel and Unicorn is just sort of an inserted thing that creates a more solid divide between early and late UC. For Star Wars it'd be more like if they set something inbetween the first two trilogies that was suddenly super important even though its events had never been referenced.
>>13686625
Gundam Unicorn is good. . . if you're fucking autistic. It's literally only good for mechporn.
>>13686840
I guess that would make The Clone Wars Unicorn, then.
>>13686845
>Gundam Unicorn is good. . . if you're fucking autistic.
Exactly. Makes it the perfect UC entry.
>>13686752
> 00 Gundam is not canon
What? Of course it's canon. It's only canon to itself and A Wakening of the Trailblazer because they're off in their own little AU, but it's canon to that AU. Just like X is canon (to itself), Wing and Endless Waltz are canon and so on. Or do you just have no idea what canon means like Black_Knight?
>>13686849
>I guess that would make The Clone Wars Unicorn, then.
Shit, that actually makes sense. Or Rebels I guess.
But Star Wars always leaves vague implications that things have happened in the time passing inbetween movies, so it works. Unicorn is harder to let slide, but it's alsoa better cap on early UC than CCA was.
>>13686811
I love the PT despite its flaws, but that is absolute bunk. While TFA also has flaws, they did 'far' better with it than I expected.
How much I like it in the future will depend on how they handle certain elements, but for now they're doing decently.
>>13686752
Everythings cannon though
>>13686533
No.
Unicorn panders to the shittiest japanese shounen boy cawwadoody kiddies, while TFA panders to liberal assholes.
>>13686533
No, Unicorn took the never-really-a-good-ending universal century and injected some next-generation hope into it. The Force Awakens took a good ending and made a group that shouldn't exist fill the empires power vacuum to continue conflict. They are fundamentally opposite ideas
>>13687309
>injected some next-generation hope into it.
And then F91 happens, Victory happens, and G-Reco showed UC got so bad humanity nearly wiped itself out, so that's funny how that went.
>>13687312
Yeah, looks like things didn't go as well as Minerva and Banagher hoped. Man had a chance for hope, but they swindled it and ended up fucking things up. I don't think there's a message in here somewhere, about how war is bad and conflict breeds conflict.
>>13687312
The world is so fucked that a couple decades of peace is literally a miracle.
>>13687312>>13687318
Also it ended a conflict stemming from half the human population being killed in less than twenty years.
That Jovians are fucking non-human sociopaths is something Bananna couldn't account for.
>>13687309
> never-really-a-good-ending universal century
> CCA ends with the remnants of Char's forces helping Amuro save the Earth through a literal miracle and reinforcing Amuro's ideals that people can sort their shit out eventually if given time, it'll just take a lot of it for an entire species
> somehow not-a-good-end
How is that not a good end? Also, all Banana and Mineva asked for was that people stop dredging up Zeon because as a cause and ideal it was bunk thanks to all the shit people had done in it's name and for them to try working together instead. Which they got.
>>13686533
Original Gundam was actually good, Star Wars always sucked. So the new one was basically just following the trend.
>>13687338
The earth not being fucked was good but nothing else was. Amuro's and Char's conversation at the end was derpressing as fuck and Amuro thought he was the only one who could save the earth, the psychoframes resonating was an accident. The men at that moment wanted to save the earth but it did nothing to end the conflict besides making two major figures disappear.
>>13687349
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>>13687352
Amuro didn't think he could save the Earth, he was just so desperate that he'd have tried anything no matter how stupid and didn't want to see other people throwing their life away on the same stupid shit he was trying. The only reason it worked at all was because all those men were also willing to throw their lives away and the psycoframe responded to everyone's desire, not just Amuros. And while Amuro and Char's conversation might have been depressing, a key part of it was Amuro's belief that humanity could sort itself and the Earth out if given time, but it would take a lot of it and that that's fine. Which is a hopeful message by any measure.
Keep it to one thread you faggots.
>>13687359
>Amuro didn't think he could save the Earth,
But Nu Gundam isn't for show.
>>13686752
>Turn A
>Strongest
Is that why it got its shit kicked by a Zaku?
>>13687309
I mean, TFA also has the excuse that the EU did literally exactly that at least three times to my recollection. It's not like we expect conflict in the Star Wars universe to stop post-ROTJ when we've had thirty years of authors writing all sorts of conflicts that happened post-ROTJ.
>>13687411
Oh hey, it's a guy who never watched the show and is taking his knowledge from what other people say.
>>13687447
I did watch the show. The first 30 episodes kind of blur together though, being that basically nothing fucking happens in them.
>>13687411
It's not an actual Zaku.
>>13687451
Let me save you some trouble so, on the assumption you don't actually want to go and check the episode again.
> one or two episodes before Harry Ord damaged the Turn-A's head with a punch from his custom SUMO
> Gavane Gooney and his Suicide Corps are the new kids on the war and the Turn-A has been getting all the fame so far, so he wants to show that they're just as strong and brave as the Turn-A and challenges it to a fight
> Loran balks but eventually relents
> they face off, and lunge at each other, ending up in a grapple
> Loran looks surprised then comments that the Turn-A's reaction time is down and wonders why
> There's a brief arm struggle, the Turn-A is just getting the upper hand and then Lily Borjarno bursts in and calls Gavane a moron and breaks the entire thing up as a waste of time considering thieves (Bruno & Jacop) are running away with the food for the refugees
The entire thing lasts about 10 seconds and consists solely of a single grapple. It's in no way a shit-kicking of any kind for either of them. If anything kicked it's shit, it's the SUMO, not the Zaku. And even that makes very little sense given that at other points in the show the Turn-A takes several missile strikes full on and Gym hits it with at least a couple of dozen beam cannon shots from the Turn-X's bloody siege attack in rapid succession with not only no damage, but without even disabling the machine internally since it still responds afterwards - one shot of which is enough to disable Harry's SUMO (though that was sustained for 2 or 3 seconds unlike the ones that hit the Turn-A to be fair). The SUMO attack is a really weird outlier and the most you can say is that it has an achilles head for some reason but is other wise Gundam Wing levels of invulnerable.
>>13687517
Yeah, the Turn A has pretty heavy plot armor sometimes. Probably its strongest ability, to be honest.
>>13687526
I don't mind personally, because for more than half the show Loran has no idea how powerful the suit is and it seems to barely perform any better than the units around it. So he still seems to struggle regardless, because for the first 10 or so episodes he's running around with no weapons other than the beam sabers punching and slicing up suits and making sure to dodge everything because he doesn't know how durable the suit is and then the thrusters unlock so he's jumping around doing much the same shit for another 10 or 15 episodes till he finally gets a working beam rifle, which just gives him some range but he still has to be thrown by Sochie's Kapool if he wants to attack a flying ship and so on. It works well in my opinion.
>>13686533
>sequel to the original trilogy where the original heroes appear and look old
>has that one annoying female character
>climax solved through bullshit plot magic
>kills one of the very few characters worth giving any kind of shit about in the verse
Nah.
>>13686533
Don't be silly. Unicorn was far better than a rehashed story plot.
>>13686540
>>13686752
If you were to express this G-Self's strength as a parameter, if the G-Self would be 100, everything else would be 0. It's said that an absolute 0% cannot exist, but that is only on Earth. No matter what the situation, no matter what the case, no matter what the reason, that's right, even if this white devil were to be destroyed, the possibility of defeating the G-Self simply does not exist. Completely 0%. 0% for the New Gundam (note: I'm not too familiar with what the names are in English so I might be spelling some wrong), 0% for the Devil Gundam, 0% for the Rotated A, 0% even for the G-Saviour. Unfortunately, thinking that you might be able to win by perseverance or chance or luck is a bad habit gained from reading too many Earth comics. You might be able to defeat this MS, that is absolutely impossible. History proves it. As of now, there is no MS, machine, mechanical life-form, demon, god, life-form, alien, or otherworldly entity that has been able to defeat this MS.
-Yoshiyuki Tomino
>>13686811
>meme
