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top down edition
old thread >>30361147
>>30363941
In with local skinwalker
>>30363941
>top down edition
close enough
>>30363941
In for what will larue barrel prices look after the 4th?
>>30363967
back to 400 most likely
>>30363941
I'm just going to stick with sideways.
>>30363941
i need more stuff on my rifle
>>30363976
Fug
>>30363982
D B A L
B
A
L
>>30363982
get some layzer beams
>>30363990
ask wife for money
>>30363962
>Jesus fuck..
>>30363956
If someone is in gunstruction can you change grip to black, handguard to black 12", no lower rollmark.
>>30363982
The ATPIAL-C would be a good addition
>>30363981
Oh, I did have a top down picture saved.
In
>>30363941
we've had so many of these editions. we need some creativity
>>30364037
>C
>>30364060
n-no bully
>>30364000
like the worst option, get an APTIAL-C
>>30364074
>C
>>30363941
In for shitty edition.
>>30364074
what about the DBAL A3?
>>30364088
>D
>>30364088
better than a DBAL.
>>30364098
shits still blocky and pretty meh in my opinion.
>>30364101
Got the that
F U L L P O W E R model
>>30364122
are those even that common still?
I've only seen two in canada and both have been in my possession really.
>>30364122
well good for you faggot
TNVC wont sell me one unless im moldy labia or a door breaching dog shooter.
I basically got one of these today.
I already had a di rifle and a bunch of lowers so I thought I might as well get a piston.
>>30363941
this is the best i've got
>>30364073
you're okay pb-kun. also who makes your pupper vest, I might get one for my pupper
>>30364037
>>30364001
>>30364000
yes, but need $$$$
i'll get one before the year is over.
>>30363956
i can, i made it
>>30364134
>>30364140
You can get them through ebay/armslist/personal connections.
It's worth looking for in my opinion.
>>30364194
http://www.onetigris.com/product/onetigris-dog-vest-for-training-service-hunting-tactical/
its held up really well so far
>>30364198
would be cool
>>30364212
>ebay
I don't trust that shit that well. Ill risk like $150 but not $2k. I'll just have to keep my eyes open for a non C version.
>>30364221
>Implying sellers don't get fucked 24/7 on jewbay
If it doesn't work send that shit back and file a claim. The buyer has way more leverage on ebay.
>>30364212
>It's worth looking for in my opinion.
Why?
>>30364096
Hnnnggg
>>30364233
Don't get me wrong. I've bought shit on ebay, I just would rather buy from a reputable dealer or find a way to get a LEO buddy to buy one. Wonder what it takes to get a LEO to buy one from TNVC.
>>30364240
because who doesnt love the ability to blind someone?
>>30364168
>we are Orlando the post
>>30364244
When are we going shooting?
>>30364201
????
got this one done
What 10inch Mlok or quadrail should I get for my SBR build? I want to get an adjustable gas block as I have a can on the way as well. Don't want to spend more than 200 on the rail.
>>30364171
Is that the swedish camo? Have a pic of the full rifle?
>>30364240
You're telling me you don't care whether it's the commercial model or not?
>>30364233
Ye, and you can usually tell by their transaction number and feedback.
>>30364286
>What 10inch Mlok or quadrail should I get for my SBR build? I want to get an adjustable gas block as I have a can on the way as well. Don't want to spend more than 200 on the rail.
Sampson Star 7 or you're a bad goy
>>30364291
>You're telling me you don't care whether it's the commercial model or not?
Genuinely don't. The lightsaber/blinder mode has too much bloom to be worthwhile for hunting from what I've seen.
>>30364256
>ability to blind someone
Only added feature
>>30363956
i meant that reply to
>>30364013
"i can, i made it"
here's the link: http://www.ar15.com/gunstruction/?guid=889FF004-506A-4430-845C-AF79C758E32A
>>30364313
Well that's a bit over my budget for the rail, looks ugly too.
Currently removing the color fill that I just did since I think it looks bad.
What a pain in the ass.
>>30364344
>>30364013
i forgot to change HG to 12 inches, not sure if thats even an option though
brb checking
Am I the only person having problems with Gunstruction? It refuses to work for me.
>>30364286
It's based off M90, yeah.
>>30364353
use a vacuum to suck the solved paint out.
not sure what you should use as a solvent though
>>30364358
it's slow as fuck in my chrome, wait wait wait forever. it'll come around
>>30364358
Use *gasp* Internet Explorer.
>>30364321
Got yours done buddy
>>30364363
Just using non-acetone nail polish remover (paint is Testors Enamel) + toothpicks + canned air. Working well enough, just a pain in the ass.
>>30364369
>Use *gasp* Internet Explorer.
Fuck. Really? It still has a reason to live?
>>30364357
>>30364013
there's no 12 inch black geissele
just 10, 13, 15
>>30364370
Muchas gracias.
>>30364378
ah, still waitin on that gray :)
i'm actually experimenting through you. no guarantee it will actually look good lol. hopefully it's pretty nice.
possibly white for safe gray for fire?
>>30364349
We got a real fucking antisemite here!
>>30364392
I work tomorrow but the day after I'll probably go pick the grey up. Might just leave everything black and use grey on the fire position and MAYBE the skull.
Stealing the idea of getting small parts cerakoted stealth grey, already talked to my gunsmith about it.
>>30364370
you should open up a donation page
>>30364406
nice, i hope that's not overkill. sounds awesome in my head though.
>>30363956
>>30364013
here u go http://www.ar15.com/gunstruction/?guid=DC588F9A-8C28-4518-A667-BA4B10C0BD88
let me know if you want me to change anything else, i'm bored outta my mind and i find this vaguely fun
>>30364358
>>30364369
runs at 3 fps on chrome, ie, and firefox for me
>>30364427
Cause I've done so many?
It'd probably be a good idea but eh.
>>30364436
What kinda parts do you have in your computer?
It's butter smooth for me in chrome.
>>30364442
i think it would encourage more people to have you edit their pics.
i know that i want more done but i don't want to bother you just so i can have the latest version of my guns done.
no top down shots unfortunately
>>30364462
It's fine, you can ask and I'll do them when I can.
I don't put gun edits ahead of stuff I want to do on my own, don't worry.
>>30364473
cool, i'll need a new one when i get my t2
>>30364397
Oi vey
>>30364361
Looks good, how did you paint it? using stencils?
>>30364462
tfw i started the 'cut out' ar look and that faggot nigger draco stole it, just like he steals everything he sees
anon that built the mod 0 are ya here
![10842165_10200313520078635_7511139319628079783_o[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V71DWCW.jpg "10842165 10200313520078635 7511139319628079783 o[1]")
>>30364496
And where is he now anon?
Oh right, in the trash. Right next to you. :^
>>30364548
i stopped keeping up, what happened to him?
>>30364557
He "got a life outside of 4chan", which means he's being a drunk at college frat parties, taking pictures and posting them on DeviantArt.
Everyone goes through a "college" phase I guess.
>>30364582
lol have you met him IRL?
>>30364492
Once you've got it good to go just post it when I'm in the thread and it'll become transparent. :)
>>30364496
Did you?
I took it and ran with it, sorry.
>>30364493
Thanks anon!
Rustoleum OD Camo
Rustoleum Matte Taupe
Rustoleum Camo Black
Krylod Woodland Green
I cut some stencils out of scotch blue painters tape using this pattern as a guide. (pattern tiles well if you need more of it)
If I were to redo it I'd use all Krylon and do lighter coats.
Also, avoid frogtape, it's terrible.
>>30364594
>Did you? I took it and ran with it, sorry.
most definitely.
idgaf, it's just 4chan. just funny how he can't be original. have you seen his redbubble page? fucking thief spic
>>30364592
No.
I'm sure he's being an introvert somewhere in Texas on his parents property. Not my problem.
He doesn't post anymore than I do, who literally gives a shit.
>>30364628
sorry i dont even know who you are. not meant as an insult.
Anyone have a BCM KMR rail? What are your thoughts on it? I read they're using some magnesium alloy to make them and that kind of turned me off...
To the guy that had the KAK shockwave with the cheek rests.
How do you like it?
Hypothetically how well do you think it would feel as an actual stock?
Hypothetically of course. I know you would never do such a thing.
>>30364604
I haven't, though now I'm a bit curious.
I'm failing to find it, can I have a link to it?
>>30364677
Get the KMR-A, it's the same design but all aluminum.
>>30364700
>Get the KMR-A, it's the same design but all aluminum.
>MFW I was looking at one of those without realizing
Welp.. I found my upper anyway... Thanks anon!
>>30364700
he might have deleted it after he got called out on it. he stole so many designs dude. i can't remember them now
this being one of them http://www.1791apparel.com/collections/store/products/garand
yeah, i just searched a chat history and all the links are dead
http://www.redbubble.com/people/dr8c0/works/10766718-ping?c=231707-firearms
>m1 garand ping rip off
http://www.redbubble.com/people/dr8c0/works/11045393-life-is-good
>hickok rip off, had his trademark orange earplugs
>>30364729
Fucking fat worthless spic.
Also where do you guys get your engraved dust covers? I want a MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN one with possibly a little American flag on the outside and maybe BUILD WALL or something on the inside.
>>30364729
I'm sad the internet archive doesn't have them saved, but that doesn't surprive me at all that he'd do that.
Thanks anon.
>>30364754
TacticalGearJunkie
>>30364759
Thanks m8.
How do you like the DD fixed sights? I'm considering a set on my budget carbine or pistol build.
>>30364378
That shit is gay. Take your Spike's and fuck off.
>>30364406
Waiting for them Muslims?
Essex-kun?
>>30364789
u mad
>>30364802
Huh?
>>30364780
They're nice, but I'm not terribly fond of the drum adjustment on the rear sight.
It's not too bad with a proper tool, but if you don''t have the tool it's bullshit.
>>30364803
No, your rifle sucks cock and looks like it should've died in Orlando. When people talk about gun bans they are talking about keeping them away from autists like you.
>>30364885
his rifle is pretty nice, the color fill is a bit much but he's already said he's removing it you tard. stfu and stay in your lane if you haven't been keeping up.
>>30364275
Hey, thanks man.
>>30364894
Everything about it is shit. Sorry this isn't your safe space, go back to /mlp.
>>30364677
I love mine, and I have the weak original version, which I prefer.
>>30364933
Faggot shit.
>>30364911
kek calm down kiddo
So what optic would pair nicely with this 16 inch BCM upper?
Leaning towards unmagnified.
>>30364943
viper pst 1-4 could be nice
>>30364938
>Faggot shit.
That was quick.
>>30364943
this>>30364954
1-4's are very nice for carbines
>>30364943
>>30365003
yea this guy's video kinda sold me on it, give it a watch and see what you think
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2zy6nT310k
>>30365028
I'll probably end up getting an moa pst. I got the primary arms just to toy with the idea of a 1-4. I was able to stay on a torso at 400 easily with hold overs but I'd like the precision the PST reticle offers
>>30365109
word, i'm coming from an eotech so precision not a big deal with the tiny moa dot. the problem for me is reliability and no zoom. i regularly shoot past 300 with my rifle so i needs that 4x
the alternative is getting a magnifier for the eotech and that just seems like a huge waste of money considering the reliability issues
Anyone have experience with pic related mags?
Looks ugly as sin but can't beat the functionality of having an extra mag in your stock. Thinking about buying one, anyone know any other companies making these?
>>30365142
>made in Israel
>>30365293
the goyim know
onii chan ~
>>30365399
Vanilla as fuck, make your rifle more unique.
>>30364397
>>30365314
>>30365399
/pol/ arrives
>>30365403
ur moms vanilla as fuck but she made my rifle unique if you know what Im sayin
I have a 20" GI upper. I am looking for alternative handguards. I know about the KAC M5 RAS and the Midwest Industries rails that are 12.625" for uppers like mine. Any others like that?
>>30365403
what do I do to make it bubbafied?
>>30365733
Someone answer me or I'll kill myself and it will be your fault. How bad would that make you feel?
>>30365840
KAC is expensive as fuck
if you are going to get a kac rail get a 3.1 or 3
why don't you like mlok/keymod?
>>30366091
I want a modular system. I'm looking for rails that will work with a rifle length gas system and a FSP, so I think that means 12.625" rails. I know KAC is expensive, but they do seconds on M5 rails and you can find them cheat on ar15.com's EE.
Basically, I have A2 handguards on it. I would like to "upgrade."
>>30365028
I keep going back and forth with a magnified (variable) or a t-2
Does leupold or another company make a decent 1-4 that isn't 2000 dollaros?
>>30366108
I meant "cheap," not "cheat."
>>30366108
I have an sr-15 and anything KAC (besides suppressors) is good to go
I was going to put a ras on my colt and then decided it wasn't worth upgrading
If you are set on a pic rail go for it, I think the RAS is free float
morning, fags.
>>30366173
Good morning
are suppressors worth it?
I was thinking about getting one
in
Is there any reason to build a .50 Beowulf rifle instead of just buying one of those Fisher-Price "AR-style" 12 ga. shotguns from Turkey?
>>30366206
Yes, 100%.
>>30366206
Absolutely.
>>30364378
What hg is that?
In
best place to get a barrel cut down?
What the heck is 223 Wylde.
How does it compare to 5.56
How would /k/ rank off-the-shelf ARs by company? Friend is in the market and doesn't want to build one from parts.
>>30366680
.223 Wylde is masterrace, my friend.
>>30366624
Adco
>>30366722
>God tier
Lwrc
Lmt
Noveske
DEL-TON
Daniel Defene
Larue
>ok tier
Everything else
>>30366740
>no KAK
>>30366624
ADCO
D
C
O
>>30366740
>>30366763
Fucking autocorrect REEEEE
KAC*
>>30364344
>>30364432
Thanks. Just got up a bit ago
>>30366304
Well, the 12ga 'ar style' gun will be easier to feed.
Dunno if you give a shit about that.
>>30364007
>>30363962
You guys are doing me a frighten
>>30366784
The only things I hate about those are that they're almost impossible to customize, and really a hassle to field strip.
Anyone have a recommendation for a good 6.7 quad rail?
>>30364754
>mfw I got that same hat
>dat pointy stabby
>dat new age yet retro look
>>30366793
If it's just a toy i'd get the .50beo.
It just seems kinda weird to be choosing between those two calibers.
Obviously you should figure out how to make a straight pull 20ga upper for an AR, and do that.
>>30366773
>>30366763
That's the one i was forgetting.
Thanks
It only took me 15 minutes to get onto /k/ and find an AR-15 thread, disgusting.
>>30364432
What MI rail?
>>30366863
You must be retarded, it should take less than a minute.
>>30366874
looks like a geissele rail
>>30366863
>It only took me 15 minutes to get onto /k/ and find an AR-15 thread, disgusting.
Need to lurk moar faggot, took me less than 30 seconds to find one.
>>30366908
Kk. Looking into it. I'm sure its ~12"
Do you guys think i'll get a hat with my larue order?(t2 and mount)
>>30366916
They make 7, 9.5, 13, and 15 inch rails
>>30366922
Maybe, I order two of their velcro hats when I got my MRO + mount so naturally they didn't send me a logo hat. If you don't I'll send you my khaki logo hat if you want.
>>30366908
>>30366924
It must be mk8.
pros/cons of an AR-15 pistol?
>>30366957
probably, since it does look like it has any pic rail sections on the end
Mk8 looks p nice. $250
>>30366968
shorter barrel length, easier to transport, cool factor, loud as fug, worse ballistics, limited stock options without getting SBR stamp
>>30366968
Pro:Can put in pocket.Con:will kill people
>>30366990
That's not a con
>tfw saving up money so I can buy everything for my AR
>tfw probably wont be able to post in ARG until 2017
I hate being Eurotrash with such a small market and literally no good deals
>5.56 out of a <16 inch barrel
>>30366979
It is. The barrel nut is super long
>>30367022
W-why is this wrong ?
>>30367034
He thinks you need optimal terminal ballistics of a cartridge for it to be effective
>>30367011
Where do you get these spicy memes
>>30367022
Kill youself
bullets
What is your zero and why is it not 50 yards?
>order a light from Ariska defense yesterday
>hasn't shipped yet
REEEEEEEEEE
>>30367086
My meme farm, its like bit coin mining
>>30367105
100yds
>>30367105
100yds and because acog
>>30367119
>2016
>100 yd zero
Confirmed for not knowing about guns
>>30367113
nice
>>30367145
He has an ACOG you mong
>>30367145
Are we seriously gonna start this shit agin
>>30367139
>>30367145
>>30367150
Why do summer kids even come on /k/?
>>30367105
100 yards; because ACOG
>>30367150
>2016
>following inferior acog instructions
>not zeroing your acog at 50 and figuring it out because you do whatever the fuck you want
Fucking tripfags
Let the record show that tripfags are idiots who run 100 yard zeros in [current year].
>>30367145
t. idiot
>>30367150
For an acog with rmr, would it be smart to zero the acog at 100 and the rmr at 30?
Never used a sight with maginification before
>>30367185
Presumably, the RMR would be used only at ranges where the magnification is cumbersome. Figure out where that distance crossover is for you and zero the RMR to suit the closer work.
>>30367185
I like to zero mine at 100 also, since it's so high above the bore anyway
>>30367170
kys
>>30367245
What barrel length and gas system is that? 18 inch and midlength?
>>30367255
18" and rifle
It's extremely soft shooting
>>30367207
>>30367245
I see, thanks for the input
Does anyone know if the BCM Gunfighter mod 1 comp is compatible with A2 attachable suppressors like the mod 0 is?
>>30367386
I imagine it would work with some, but not others.
You'd need to call BCM and/or the suppressor company.
>>30367185
I zero my RMR at 100 yards because otherwise, if I were to zero it at 25 yards, I would end up hitting like 2 feet high at a hundred yards
>>30366800
I'm still looking for an answer on this
>>30367525
Ris ii + hacksaw
>>30367525
Considering you are specifying 6.7" I assume you are looking for a drop in that uses the delta ring?
>>30367553
Yeah, drop in with a delta ring, for an M&P15
>>30367589
Most of the major brands have a drop in solution. It comes down to how much you are willing to spend.
For just having a quad rail to mount stuff on there is no functional difference from a $19 Monstrum Tactical rail and a $200 Daniel Defense Omega.
>>30367636
No, not even comparible in terms of quality of manufacture to the point that some low end rails sheer when you try and mount things to them.
>>30367589
You need a KAC RAS
http://shop.knightarmco.com/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=KM98064
>>30364839
What rail ?
>>30367525
>>30367589
so just a carbine length then. I'd just get a MI drop in carbine length quad, I had one on my 6920.
>>30367750
or this if you want a lot more, but it is nicer.
>>30367709
I await your evidence of rails sheering with bated breath.
I own expensive rails and rifles, so trust me, I get the "quality" standpoint. However, the average AR15 owner will see no benefit in buying a name brand over an off brand and telling them name brand is the only way to go does them a huge disservice when that money can be spent going out and shooting their new rifle and enjoying it.
>>30367113
When the hell did you get an ACOG? Also, that shit sucks. I've had it happen all too many times.
>>30367760
cmon man it says the name right on the side of the rail
>>30367772
>no benefit in buying a name brand over an off brand
except for the shame of owning crappy chinese parts
>>30367779
Nevermind it just shipped, but USPS won't recognize the tracking ID yet.
I got an ACOG like a month ago I've just been busy and started posting again like 2 days ago.
I fucking love it so far
>>30367814
>shipped
that just means they've made the label
>>30367772
I think he meant "low end rails shake and rattle like Chinese airshit"
Because they do, I've bought the cheapo rails and decent name-brand rails, and there is a difference.
If you don't mind your handguard flopping around and clattering like an old ww1 1911, then go for it. Just know what you're getting into for the price of admission.
>>30367772
Sheering is an exaggeration, the finish might be of lower quality and come off, and who's to say a low quality company wouldn't weaken the strength of they're rails to make a few more shekels.
Thats something DD, KAC, Noveske, MI, or even UTG wouldn't do.
>>30367788
Lel
>>30367826
>>30367838
Once again "For just having a quad rail to mount stuff on there is no functional difference"
I stand by that statement. I am not going to discount improvements in machining, finish quality, or fitment as prices go up since they are indeed there in many cases.
However, I see no need to pigeon hole people asking questions into the name brands for parts like a drop-in quad rail which is simply a provision for control accessories or lights.
Can't decide between going with the MBUS Pro front sight or the fixed DD one to pair with a KAC rear sight. Any suggestions?
>>30367913
Sure, but the likelyhood of something happening with the cheaper rail that would effect its ability to facilitate the use of lights/control accessories is exponentially higher than a quality brand that all of us have tried out personally and recommend.
Not all AR owners have them just as range toys, and I'd rather recommend something of higher quality under the assumtion that a rifle might be used in a life or death situation.
I bought some cheap mags from PSA, is it okay to leave them loaded all the time?
>>30368018
Yes, springs weaken due to contraction and retraction, but not staying compressed.
>>30367921
mbus pro front and kac rear is a great combo. I enjoy it a lot, I'm not a fan of fixed irons unless it's an a2 fsb but that's subjective.
There was a tripfag on here a few days ago who wanted to buy my DD RIS II FDE.
Bro, I've got some bad news for you. The mongoloid who installed my BCM gas block decided it would be a good idea to use an adhesive with a melting point of 1300 degrees celsius to attach it to the barrel. As a result, I can separate the rail from the barrel nut and remove it, but I cannot get the barrel nut and DD bolt up nut off. I think I have to take a blowtorch to the gas block, which I would rather not do. Unless you have a better idea for getting the damn thing off I'm thinking I can just give you the entire upper minus the BCG and charging handle for something of equal value. It's a 14.5 in barrel though, so I don't know what the laws are for the US.
>>30365142
I have it. It is a nice stock honestly, just fugly. The mag that comes with it kind of sucks ( at least mine does).
>>30368171
I am loving how cheap all the stolen valor KAC sights are on ebay. Sticky fingered marines are a real blessing.
>>30368218
I mean hey your taxes paid for those damn things to begin with.
>>30367953
Not the guy you were replying to.
Who cares - it's a drop in. Even the chink shit is made of 6061 aluminum, so long as it doesn't dislodge itself from the delta ring I don't see what the problem is. American manufacturers are Jewing you out of your shekels anyway, regardless of how good the product is. For every $1 you pay for their shit they are probably paying less than a 25 cents.
>>30368218
me too m8. I threw it on with the mbus and didn't have to adjust it at all for steel @100yds. 10/10
>>30368230
kek
Got mine yesterday
>>30363941
Does anyone know if there is something going on with Magpul at the moment? I ordered a handguard from them a week ago and it still hasnt shipped. I dont want to be a douche if it is just taking a while or whatever.
Do they do back orders? Is there a way to tell?
>>30368263
Magpul is pretty reliable. They're probably stupid behind on filling orders right now on account of panic.
>>30368263
Why did you buy directly from Magpul?
>>30368263
Remember, if you are purchasing anything directly from the manufacturer, they have stocking orders for dealers and distributors that are worth far more monetarily to them than your individual part.
You are back of the line.
>>30368199
That was me
Some people are so fucking stupid
Yea, I don't really have an upper that i'd want to trade, sorry.
>>30366680
.223 Wylde is a hybrid chamber between 5.56 NATO and .223rem commercial. It's a compromise between the more pressure-permissive military chamber, and the more accuracy-potential commercial chamber. The idea is to allow safe usage of 5.56 NATO pressure ammo, even on full-auto, while gaining back some of the accuracy and brass life of the commercial .223rem chamber.
IIRC, it maintains the longer throat of the 5.56 chamber while having a tighter leade and less generous shoulder spacing.
>>30368199
Rocksett isn't strong but it doesn't melt like loctite, you should be able to remove the block with a bit of force.
I rocksett my brake and removed it the other day and it was easy to get off.
Btw, is it the fsp ris ii?
>>30368329
No, it's the M4A1, and fug off.
>>30368292
>>30368275
>>30368271
fuck. it was out of stock everywhere else I say.
I probably should have kept looking. Last time I ordered directly from magpul I had no issues.
>>30368343
That's the one i want, you fug off it's mine.
>>30368363
We already agreed on a trade, so you fug off
>>30368378
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee
>>30368361
Can you ask for a refund? I would buy from a third party and it's usually marginally cheaper and in stock. MOE handguards are everywhere.
>>30368387
Here, buy this one when the retards stop bidding it up.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351764216950?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>30368378
IDK what you wanna do as I'm not getting this thing off without some serious work. I talked to the "gunsmith" and he said he basically did what BCM does with their complete uppers. They also use a retarded strong adhesive.
>>30368388
Maybe. I sent them an inquiry and I will wait to hear back before I do anything. I tried like 4 different places and they were all out of stock or didn't have black.
>>30368395
>450 USD
top kek
I paid 300 CAD for mine
>>30368425
You can have AR's in canada eh?
>>30368400
No, they don't. They use assembly grease. Tell him he's a retard
If you wanna try to use a torch and stuff for the barrel nut, you can, but I understand if you don't.
>>30368395
>MK12
That seller was just trying to hit all of the tangential search hits.
>>30368395
>over $400
Fuck that
>>30368387
fucking reeeeeeee bullshit.
>>30368431
>>30368400
>>30368199
Wait, barrel nut or gas block?
>>30366809
I figure shooting 50 beo and 12ga slugs would be about the same. And, yes, it would be just a toy.
>>30368456
Yea, the sellers got different accounts bidding it up
>>30364353
>>30361676
Okay what rails are these. I'm looking but I cant find anything.
>>30368466
Gas block, but doesn't this stop the barrel nut from being removed as well?
>>30368431
I'll look into it. It could take a while before I come up with a viable solution though.
>>30368498
No, it doesn't. You're using a vise and a big wrench, right?
>>30368518
I could send a BCM low profile gas block with the rail and stock if you decide to cut it off or something.
All yesterday's talk about projectile efficiency and ratios and whatnot got me interested.
Does anyone have a good source to learn more about .223 ballistics or just ballistics in general?
Not terminal, but just flight characteristics of different projectiles.
>>30368395
Ebay has really pulled through for me on machine tools lately.
Got a metric 24x1.5mm tap (AK-74 threads) with through-tool coolant and carbide cutting edges (it's cemented onto the HSS body) for $14 made in Japan, and a used Vortec cold air gun for $130 ($400+ item)
>>30368608
Search for DocGKR's posts around the internet. He is at the forefront of dissemination of terminal effectiveness results to the general public from LE/Gov testing.
IIRC he is off of arfcom and m4c now for not petting the mods the right way but is still active elsewhere.
Would free float hgs make a good diy fleshlight?
>>30368608
"external" ballistics coveres the flight of the bullet from the barrel to the target
"internal" ballistics would probably be while bullet is still in the barrel, from acceleration to exit
terminal is for effect on targets
>>30368498
Removed from the barrel? Yes
Can you post a pic of the gas block, specifically the screws you're trying to remove.
>>30366109
Puting a magnifier behind a red dot sucks dongs because the dots are huge.
>Does leupold or another company make a decent 1-4 that isn't 2000 dollaros
yes viper pst 1-4
leupold also has one i forget the name of it, it's well within affordable range called the VX-R it's 1.25x to 4x though. Not a big deal I think
>geissele 13" MK8 is only 3.8 ounces less than my current rail
hmm, maybe I'll just stick with the quads on this rifle
>>30366740
>LWRC
>god tier
>del-ton
>god tier
can u not?
My BCM KMR should arrive today.
So excite.
>>30366874
oh it's a midwest industries geissele mk8
>>30368645
Herp, I didn't finish reading your post. As for external ballistics and bullet design a lot of the projectile manufacturers offer a lot of information that is presented well for the layman.
As an example here is an article on Berger's website
http://www.bergerbullets.com/hunting-bullet-designs/
>>30367105
300 yards
>>30368699
You can still loosen it with the tube in place
>>30368853
yeah but i was assuming that you didn't want the barrel so the has to take the gas block off.
>>30368254
nice i like it
>>30368884
Yea, that problem still has to be addressed, but hopefully the gunsmith didn't install the barrel nut AND the gas block incorrectly
>>30368254
If you're poor like me, you might entertain the idea of getting magpul drop in handguards to make it look better and attach a light.
But then you won't be satisfied so next you'll buy a cheap free-float rail that's like 13 inches long and is heavy.
You will quickly realize you enjoy your rifle more if it's lightweight, and will want a shorter high-dollar rail, like a BCM KMR.
Just save your fucking money and time, and buy a BCM KMR free-float rail about 10 inches long, maybe less. You'll need an armorer's wrench and a Geissele reaction rod (or the magpul offering, much cheaper, works for me) to remove your barrel nut. And a torque wrench to install the new one.
If you have a friend with machinery (mill, lathe) have him make you a Geissele reaction rod. It's just a rod with a splined end you insert into the locking lugs, which are permanently attached to the barrel.
Don't try to remove the flash hider or barrel nut without holding the rifle by the locking lugs, you will fuck shit up.
If you just put it between your legs, the first thing to go will probably be your takedown pins.
All in all you should just be super happy with it the way it is, the handguard is pretty nice, easy to get a good grip on because it will bend inward a little when you death-grip it. Fixed front sight, ultra durable.
If you are unhappy with the irons, I would suggest buying a better rear sight, like a carry handle rear sight. That will give you elevation adjustment which I have come to thoroughly enjoy on my AK. It might not be absolutely necessary for military use, but on the fly rear sight elevation adjustment is pretty damn neat for range use.
Don't waste your money on a cheap chinese made rear sight either, it will be a waste of money when it falls apart on you. The cheap shitty bolts and pins they assemble it with fall out, then it falls apart.
>>30368931
>letting some overalls wearing hick do anything to your gun
>>30368494
Midwest Industries Mlok
>>30368841
However, keep in mind some bullet companies are widely considered to be "generous" with their estimations of their own bullets. With Nosler and Berger being two of the most egregious offenders, and Hornady and Sierra lying the least.
6mmbr.com actually has good write-ups about just about every facet of ballistics, from a target shooter's standpoint, including a good breakdown of when you should stop using flat-based bullets.
>>30368805
Leupold has several, the (VX?)-Hog, VX-R Patrol, VX-3, VX-XIII, VX-XII, and probably others.
Vortex also has the Viper PST 1-4x, and Burris has a good one as well. Millett also has a decent one but it's heavier than the rest while not really being cheaper, and last but not least Primary Arms' 1-4x ACSS is decent while being affordable.
As far as the whole 1.25-4x, all low-power variables fail at being true 1x. Leupold is just more upfront about it.
>>30369075
>all low-power variables fail at being true 1x
are you sure....
>>30368989
>getting into a conversation without any context to the statement you replied to
We're talking about a Canadianon's rifle
>>30369043
sierra is great. I've never had a sierra vary by more then .1gr. steer clear from barnes though
>>30368456
>>30368478
that's what they're going for, rtards
do you not understand supply and demand
https://danieldefense.com/rail-systems/ris-ii.html
dd's price went up as well
>>30369117
i have all the context, are you implying there aren't hamfisted retards in other countries?
>>30363941
Hey guys what optic should I go with? Oringally planning on getting aimpoint P.R.O. but sold out so now maybe a T1 or T2 but they are expensive....
>>30369150
Trijicon MRO
>>30369137
Why would DD change their prices?
Seems like a meme thing to do
>>30369137
they can go for that all day everyday, doesn't mean i'll pay that.
hell, i would never have bought the mk18 ris ii if it wasn't for the great price.
>>30369150
Trijicon MRO
Primary arms RDS or whatever
the larue t-2 package is what ill be getting once I get back to the US to put on my ar
I still need a light, gonna try and find a deal on a surefire if I can
>>30369127
I feel like it should group better than that
>>30369150
MRO
>>30369111
Absolutely 100% sure.
>>30369127
How often do you clean your bore?
I guess I'm asking what kind of condition it's in.
>>30369174
Whew!
Is that a titanium tube?
I wonder if a stainless would hold up to the heat better? I bet if you knurled the OD of the tube it would dissipate heat a little bit better.
>>30369174
sure
i was more responding to the asinine assertion that a seller would use multiple accounts.
i did pay more than $400 for mine
>>30369220
Stainless tube on his Surefire. It doesn't take a whole lot to get a can glowing on a short barrel 5.56.
>>30369208
how did you come to this conclusion
>>30369183
I got the same results out of my douglas barrel, as in sierra being twice as good.
>>30369210
my 14.5 upper, maybe once every 500 rounds. I clean my mk12 douglas barrel after every range trip.
>>30369337
By trying a bunch of them across a fairly wide range of magnifications, everything from a $150 Bushnell through a $2500 S&B Short Dot
>granted not all of them were 1-4x, but they were all 1-somethings
>>30369344
hmm. pb has gotten 55 gr down to 0.5 MOA at 100 yds, but 69 gr was more similar to your groups. what is your twist?
>>30369356
and you measured the magnification factor?
>>30369225
Check the bid history genius
>>30369364
Not scientifically, no. But I looked at a known-size object (1" square yellow center of a target) at a known distance (25 yards) and every single scope magnified it at least a little at its 1x setting.
It's extremely difficult to get true 1x from a variable magnified optic. I'm kinda impressed how close the Strike Eagle seems to be.
>>30369392
Another look.
>>30369392
the first pic is not useful at all because the camera was moved, totally different angle etc.
>>30369378
yeah and?
should I get a t-2 or a variable power?
are red dots really that much faster when it comes to acquisition?
>>30369443
What? I took it from the exact same spot. All I did was tilt the rifle over so I wasn't looking through the optic.
>>30369452
Depends on the scope. It will always be faster, but a good, compact low-power variable will be close enough that it really doesn't matter that much.
IMO it's personal preference. I like low-power variables because I do just as much 200m+ shooting as I do 25m hosing, and a low-power variable is good for the former and works for the latter.
>>30369449
And people don't outbid themselves 5 times in a row 5 days before it ends
>>30369474
I think I'd do better putting a t-2 on my ar for now
I was going to get a good bolt 308 or 6.5 but I think i'd rather have a USPT with a can for now
>>30369470
do i really have to make a webm showing you why you're wrong? sigh.
>>30369508
so you're telling me you don't understand how autobidding works.
you clearly don't.
let me restate that you're a fucking retard if you think a seller with a 104,000 point feedback score is going to do that.
ebay will fuck you over for doing that shit.
>>30369474
>>30369516
If I were you I'd go with variable power, target acquisition is only a minuscule amount slower vs a red dot. that said, my new rifle is getting an MRO so...
>>30369535
Yeah
Whats a good 1-4 variable that isn't over 1000$?
I don't want to put more than 4k into my ar lol
>>30369532
Why would people even bid on it when it's first posted. It just raises the price for everyone
>>30369392
well, i know what my optic for my ar will be now.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Daniel-Defense-System-Flat-Dark-Earth-New-/131855485838?hash=item1eb3330b8e:g:5joAAOSwzgRW1Rov
Is this what you guys are lording over?
>>30369558
because people clearly aren't as smart as you think you are.
it doesn't fucking matter anyway, it will go over $400 in the last 15mins regardless
people want these rails.
>>30369550
vortex crossfire 1-4 is ~$250, vortex strike eagle 1-6x is ~$450
if you're going for lightweight and dont think you'll need magnification go with a micro red dot
>>30369560
No, there are at least 3 of those on eBay for cheap. The full quadrail version is the rare one.
>>30369560
he could probably sell those faster if he titled the listing correctly
>>30369558
this
>>30369575
people will bid the shit out of things just because they want it. I see people bid used pelican cases, new TQ's, used multitools, and all sorts of other crap well above what theyd cost new on amazon all the time. people are dumb.
>>30369580
how clear is the glass?
I was thinking about picking up a ptr to satisfy my inner sauerkraut
Yeah, I think I'll just get a crossfire and a t-2 for my sr-15
That's really cheap..... makes me worry about quality honestly
>>30369587
>>30369598
So the non FSB model. Gotcha.
Dude has been selling the shit out of them his seller history is mostly that rail.
>>30369580
>vortex strike eagle 1-6x is ~$450
You can find them for around $330.
>>30369612
These posts are some anon's strike eagle:
>>30369392
>>30369409
>>30369470
>>30369612
see
>>30369392
>>30369409
>>30369470
for sight picture
>sr-15
shit man, at this point you ought to splurge on glass
>>30367113
that's a really nice wood floor, and a sexy gun
pls marry me
>>30369624
lol my bad
That's really not that bad, I think I'll pick 1 up after I get my t-2
>>30369615
Yea, there are a few others listed incorrectly for really cheap. The only one listed correctly is $375
>>30369781
>>30369793
go away
literally nobody likes you
>>30369866
wut site
>>30369866
what crawled into your ass and dies today? another gerbil?
>>30369880
ta31rco
>>30369893
get the fuck off my board
>>30369904
>get the fuck off my board
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>>30368494
kac urx4 mlok
Is the ssa-e the best g trigger for a hd/range gun? Also, how good are the B5 bravo stock and magpul k2+ grip?
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