Portugal, Spain and Greece are eastern europe nau
Italy is next
Are southernes naturaly lazy? How is possible sucks so much after decades in EU with free germoney and without 40/years of communism?? Its the culture(manana) or genetics?
>>56668727
Wends are simply the master race.
>550 euros after taxes
>Lithuania stronk
>>56668784
Beautiful
For some reason its reminds me canada
>>56668784
What the hell is that pipe?
I hate Lithuania now.
>>56668833
that pipe was part of Vilnius european cultural capital or some shit. it cost 300k euros
>>56668833
Some art
It costed like million €
>>56668903
>>56668911
Wow, bravo!
Well spent GDP.
>>56668944
t-thanks :Dd
>>56668727
fake map xd but you ok
what is a gdp
why is it in dollars
how can i fuck african womens?
sorry, this is a bad topic
Actually the italian GDP saw it's first rise since 2008(?) this year.
>>56669120
Bravo
We had almost 5% growth last year
This year will be aroind 3%
>>56669156
Lucky you, all we got was a lousy 1%.
Still, better than nothing.
The same retarded than yesterday
>>56668727
But communism is good, anon.
>>56668727
Spain and moortugal are african.
Reminder: if your country is in any aspect worse than spain OR portugal you're basically NOT a country.
>>56669204
Its ok but we need like 6% growth for at least decade to finally catch up West
>>56669298
Literally fucking this
>>56668727
there is an actual explanation for this, but we're on 4chan, so it's because of moor genes and lazyness
>>56668727
Can Moldovans even afford food
>>56668727
BRAVO ESTONIA
fuck you czech
>>56669428
Probably € and weak institutions(corruption, byrocrucy)
>>56669488
Not really, they grow their own shit
>>56669233
Franco pls wake up
>>56669558
Also, crisis always have a greater impact on the South, because industries and stuff are new and frail. I think it's still in recession
IRELAAAAAAAND
>>56668727
Fug. Never realized how low we have fallen. We'll be the next europoor
>>56669558
no, you mememaster, it's because thise states you mentioned are all fat away from the core of europe, then, no oil and no resources.
but again, this is /int/ and we have to wait another world war to refresh the stereotipes for the plebs
>>56668727
Sofia's GDP is something like 33000$ but the rest of the country drags the average down by a lot.
I hope things keep improving in real terms.
>>56668727
I think it's all well explained here >>56668130. The thread was germans and hole digging obsession, but my scientific conclusions can be easily extrapolated to all pertinent sides, including ofc the Kek Rebuglic.
In your case it's pretty obvious; wild subhuman cuck slavs that get swiftly cucked and assimilated by the kraut cucks cucked by Carlos el Magno and succesors.
About Spain, apart of our natural Patrician class genetics, my theory is that everything revolved around jews and moors. We had the moors to arbeit the land and the jews to arbeit the gold. So we could focus on the things that matter in life like being pals with god, with wine and women and removing dutchies, anglos, turks and other plagues. Eventually we ran out of moors and jews so we did some scientific research with actual meaningful purpose, unlike your shit about le GDP PPP per capita and le compound interest rate of the homosexual czech pornstar and etc, and discovered America and basically everywhere else in this.planet along with the Portus in the times of King Alberto I el Barbosa and got golds and spices and indians and shit that replaced the jews and moors and shit.
I could go on and on with the explanation but I think I made my point clear enough, didn't I Jiri Kukic?
>>56668727
Can't wait until we pass Estonia
>>56669922
thanks for spreading some actual historical facts on this taiwanese sock puppet forum
Estonia at exactly 30k? Yeah, right... clearly a fabricated number to keep the rest of the world from offing themselves due to not being Estonian.
Bravo, Estonia.
>>56669885
>no oil
>no resources
See Switzerland
The core of Europe argument could hold water but how do you explain Britain or Ireland?
>>56669910
Capital gdp is bullshit
For example CEZ or Skoda are based in Prague while factories are around the republic
>>56669922
Kukic??
>>56670064
Thanks Holanda.
It's important to properly educate all this Eastern '''''''Europeans''''''
>>56668727
>Luxembourg 100k gdp ppp per capita
so it's bullshit then, it doesn't take in account countries that are net creditors
>>56670216
You are now just brownish eastern europe with huge unemployment
>tfw poorest of the first worlders
I wish we were 35k or thereabouts. Then we could say we're richer than eastern euros instead of poorer than western.
>>56670175
The problem is it reflects on the real wages and the difference between the capital and province is significant.
Local governments have power over their local taxes and can create incentives for business to invest in them.
But Sofia remains the main economic hub and only city where a skilled employee can earn a decent salary.
>>56670260
It's a problem, indeed, since we ran out of golds, indians and shit.
But we're working on solving this problem.
Protip: I obviously don't mean ''working'' in a literal sense. That's for plebs, moors and cucks.
>>56668727
Your main export partner is Germany(30% of exports),Spain is our main export partner(20% exports).
Germany is more reliableand stable than spain and don't come with that shit that''EU countries trade with eachother'' because even if it's true it's not that easy to trade with germany than spain if you're closer to spain.
You're beating sick dogs and you're proud of it?
Your country has a high pornographic culture,your woman are known for being prostitutes.
Your country is getting breastfed by germany,but your culture is still irrelevant.
Your country relies on the wellbeing of the Skoda company and trade overall,like I said,if anything happened to Germany you'd be on your knees in a whimper.
There's still many factors that affect the quality of life of a country.
>>56670840
>>56668727
Delet this immediately
I make 30k per year, would I be considered rich in checkia?
>>56670919
Its over 800 now
5% wage growth this year plus end of devaluation of our currency(+10%)
So cca 920 at the end of this year
>>56671100
Rich? Nah
Just well payed proffesional
>>56671100
hell no
you must make more than 100k to be rich in a rich country like Czech
OXI
>>56668727
>Ireland
OK, maybe I've been buying into the potato meme too much, but what the fuck is driving their economy?
>>56670260
>You are now just brownish eastern europe with huge unemployment
chicano here,Spain is so important than you all eastern countries ,many sudamerican countries are investing in Spain and of course my government ( EEUU) for example my company is from Los Angeles.
>>56668727
You posted this yesterday and ypu got owned.
This map is a fake crap and you are slav and poor.
>>56672742
>>56672802
/thread
>>56668727
They make the coolest shit, though.
I don't care about the rest of southern Europe.
But Italy makes great food, great vehicles and great entertainment.
Eastern Europe has none of those things.
>>56672896
GTA Spano
>>56672896
Great food? Beer and dumpklins
Great cars? Skoda
Great enterteiment? Porn
Next question pls
>>56672802
why is finland stagnating?
>greece
>>56673060
>Great enterteiment? Porn
hahahahahahhaha this guy
>>56673060
Czech beer is severely overrated. (Although probably still better than Italian beer.)
Italians make great dumplings.
Skodas are rebadged VWs, and not particularly exciting.
>all these low gdp BETAS
top jej
>>56673608
basqueland in french part is Spain and you know that. jasjajsajsjajsajskajsakjsa
¿Se ha cambiado el haitiANO de país o qué?
>>56673843
es nuestro nuevo hatiANO el eslAVO
I'd still prefer to live in Spain or Portugal tbchfam
>>56673883
esCLAVO*
>>56668727
Don't worry, the doctors and engineers from the Middle East will help them get ahead again.
>>56673979
S K O D A JAJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJJAJAJAJAJJAJAJAJ
XD
>>56668727
delet
>>56669298
Catalonia included though.
>>56668727
>Are southernes naturaly lazy?
italians created most of the western culture, infinitely more than...whatever your country is- will ever do
>with free germoney
-italy is one of the top net contributor to the EU
-italy is the only PIIGS state who never got bailed by foreign money
>without 40/years of communism
WE WUZ COMUNIST N SHYET
the excuse every slavshit loves. try 50 years of mismanagement, terrorism and organized crime (and still, the italian genius made so that Italy became the 5th, almost 4th, top economy on the planet during the 90's)
>>56670840
Just give thr czechs +10 internet relevance points.
Their mediocre, EU subsidized muh GDP PPP per capita at this precise moment in history is, literally, their greatest achievement ever in their cuck history and can't help but go into the internet and brag about it to those insignificant mediterranean countries.
If you hang around the thread long enough there might even pop some canacuck /pol/tard and give the czech cuck a cookie.
>We're poorer than Balts
I'm gonna block your trucks REEEEEE
>>56668811
Urban planning too good to be Canada.
>>56668727
>Portugal
A lot of people don't realise that Poortugal is shit because Salazar's Portugal didn't align with the rest of the world's ideologies after WW2.
While the rest of the world moved on from world empires, Portugal kept clinging on to their empire for dear life despite the fact that they were now firmly wedged between the influence of NATO and the USSR.
Portugal never modernized their economy to face the new challenges of a post-colonial, globalised, enventually post communist world.
By the time of the revolution in 1974, they were already too far behind.
If you ask me, I lived in Moz and nobody seemed to have any hard feelings against whites, and lusophones are probably the least racist global language group in the world.
If the cold war never happened they might have still been the last empire standing.
>>56675966
>Greece
Greece similarly is basically what's left of the Roman Empire ("Byzantines") and has been getting buttblasted by muslims for more than a millenia. The old economic system of the East-Mediterranean and the middle east relied on a long land-based trading system (the Silk Road) which became extinguished with low cost ocean-bound trade (cargo ships are VERY cheap to ship things on compared to alternatives)
Greeks were demographically and culturally unprepared for a changing economic scene
>Italy
Not a bad economy. they never had a real colonial empire to supplant their economy.
>B-but germany is rich and never had a global empire!
Germany is rich because they had a huge high-tech advantage leading back to the Nazi military regime. They had highly skilled citizens, ready to adapt to a new economic world seeing as their old one was destroyed.
>>56668727
>mfw on the steady path to greatness
turns out hard work and determination DOES pay off, you lazy southern apes
>>56676245
W-what about Asspain?
>>56668727
>Moldova
>>56677349
Civil war, also separated from it's colonies a looong ass time ago.
I don't really know much about Spain or Italy really.
>>56677521
Moldova is playing on the hardest difficulty
>>56670127
>ireland
>the biggest tax heaven For american companies
>switzerland
>the biggest tax heaven of the planet
>Estonia will be richer than Finland in less than 15 years
Fucking hell. Yes, let's tax the rich more. Let's give more to the needy. That'll fix things.
>>56668727
Why are these no one cares east europe countries always so jealous of the countries with best weather, food, history, culture, people etc? it's boring
>>56668727
>Its the culture(manana) or genetics?
Neither. Culture changes damn fast if forced too and in modern world it is always forced to and genetic distance between us and Iberians is rather small not to mention Italins who mixed with us during middle ages.
It's result of decades of populism and goverment overspending, something we aren't immune to (pic related). Because of our bad reputation devastated economy due to communism, nobody was willing to borrow us enormous sums of money, so in a way communism saved us or at least delayed our own debt crisis.
Howver biggest problem of Italy, Iberians and Greece is losing entire generation to unemployment.
>Are southernes naturaly lazy? How is possible sucks so much after decades in EU with free germoney and without 40/years of communism?? Its the culture(manana) or genetics?
Nope.
People here at just terrible at pretty much anything. People here may be nice but they are borderline retarded I fear.
I said about 6 ,7 years ago to people here discussing politics.
>We're gonna be overtaken by most of Eastern Europe if we are not careful
>AYY LMAO BEING OVERTAKEN BY EASTERN EUROS ARE YOU KIDDING THEY JOINED IN 2004
And yet, here we are. Spain and Italy can manage they have gigantic economy and can afford to be retards.
The Portuguese deserve all of this though.
Every little bit. Fuck them.
>>56675966
Except that 90% of our industry was created in the Estado Novo, before that we were extremely far behind Europe, when the revolution happened most industries either ran away or bankrupted the most prominent our metal and canned food industries. We are shit now because of that revolution and entering the Euro zone.
>>56668727
>posting the meme version
>>56668727
are you an idiot?
you are delusional if you think your country is superior to ours in any way
porn maybe
our 40 years of fascist dictatorship were worse than your 40 years of gommunism
>>56685841
>People here may be nice but they are borderline retarded I fear.
Best description of my country so far.
Oh boy. I was born in Portugal as well as my family. While I don't live there anymore, my parents always want me to be proud of where I'm from. Right now though, I just can't. Everything's just gone to shit there. One thing they've pointed out to me and what I've started noticing more is the trend of the Portuguese immigrants here, especially younger ones, just giving up on education and going for jobs in construction. Not only that, but there's also those older people who immigrated decades ago but never bothered to learn English.
Obviously, there are exceptions to this, but I feel like there is this sort of anti-education culture within the Portuguese that is holding back the country as a whole. I don't know. I'm just ranting at this point.
There was a public poll held back in 2007 by the national media about who was the greatest Portuguese figure in history. Of all the great people they could've gone with, they chose fucking Salazar, the dictator who fucked up the country for good.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Os_Grandes_Portugueses
Someone needs to make Portugal great again.
>>56686139
Yeah because the 1st republic was much better.
If Salazer never rose to power we would have become weimar republic tier bad.
>>56685841
>>56686086
>>56686139
Yup. The country is absolutely retarded. How can something so small IN WESTERN EUROPE can be so poorly managed.
We haven't mode an inch in quality of life since the 90's.
>>56668784
>paying taxes
lol
>>56674788
>southern moor
>>56668727
>balkans
>poortugal
>>56686139
>but I feel like there is this sort of anti-education culture within the Portuguese that is holding back the country as a whole
Yes, this is true.
Our country have always been anti-culture due to many historical factors.
First of all, the cahtolic priests always wanted to have the monopoly of knowledge on their hands so they could control the nobility (wich they did) and opress the people.
Then, when the enlightment era reached europe this country was beyond salvation causw everyone was already a literal dumb fuck and inquisition fucked up any kind of intelectual resistance.
By the time of the foundation of the 1st republic there was a great increase in literacy and scholarship. The powerful ones, fearing that the population could "see" beyond their lies they financed the dictator in order to keep the population dumb and docile.
In the end, we missed the whole XXth century and we lived like middle ages during that period.
Nowadays it's the same thing. With the huge amount of entartainment and media they just let the kids be brainwashed by it...
Intelectuals and scholars in Portugal always ended up by comitting suicide, dying in extreme poverty or going insane...
>>56668727
>soon
>>56685841
Cristiano no, I like Portugal, why u so tsundere?
>>56671252
>Czech Republic
>rich
Last week I was in Prague and they are still commie tier. Their girls are hotter, tho.
>>56668727
>moldova
how miserable is life there?
>>56686139
>I was born in Portugal as well as my family.
How does it feel knowing you WUZ KANGZ AND SHIET?
>>56668727
It's because everyone is unemployed there. But it does take a special type of leadership to fuck up a country that didn't participate in 2 world wars
desu senpai if thats the case, I'm still waiting for my full ride scholarships for being black baka
>>56668727
GDP in PPP estimated by IMF for 2016
Hint: The longer the name of the stat, the less legit it is. and if it mentions estimated it's like a fucking joke. In this case it's adjusted for cost of life, which reduces the difference between eastern and western europe, mainly because eastern europe is like extremely cheap.
Southern europe is in a debt crysis, eastern europe is legit third world. Learn the difference mate. I mean I think your country is an amazing place but you can't call us lazy just like that. To be racist you need to have been born in a decent country, and it'd still be retarded.
By the way I'll just say that my company has an outsourced center in eastern europe and we call them "The Vladimirs" xd
>>56690674
>eastern europe is legit third world
Ah fuck off monkeyface. Being buttblasted over a fucking region because some czech spams this thread every day, your inferiority complex is showing.
>>56690674
>20% unemployement
>outsource jobs
bravo spania!
>>56690782
>>56690870
ok vladimirs
>>56690915
Couldn't care less hernando manletinio.
>>56690915
>40% youth unemployment
you'll have to become a vladimir just to get a job
>>56690782
But Poland is Central Europe
>>56691102
>be unemployed in Spain
>get free money and have fun
>be employed in Eastern Europe
>starve
>>56691327
sure thing
