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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/29/world/asia/comfort-women-south-korea-japan.html?_r=0

It has finally happened. Japan apologized to Korea over the wartime sex slavery. Is this a step towards a united Asia?
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>>52795633
God no. This will get forgotten and people will still bitch because Japan hates Korea and vice-versa on a racial level and simply apologizing for comfort women will not ease the tension anymore than paying reparations for slavery will make white-black relations improve in any capacity.
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>>52795674
Germany and Israel has a good relationship though
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>>52795633
No because the textbook revisionist movement still exists, and the class A war criminals are still enshrined at Yasukuni Shrine since their secret enshrinement in 1978. I care deeply about proper history being taught. Personally I think the issue with the islands are overblown, and it will slowly die down as long as the aforementioned two issues are solved.
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I'm sure that Korean will ask Japan to pay money to them.
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>>52797734
why do nips always get so assblasted when korea gets mentioned?
i dont see korean threads pop up every hour to bitch about japan.
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>>52795633
Look at the japanese shitty posts in /int/. Is this a step towards a united Asia?
... Well
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>>52795633
>sex slavery
I hope dumb women like porn actresses won't demand money from our government.
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>>52797782
But he was true.
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>>52797797
Stop being begger then.
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>>52797782
no wonder if he said so since they has already twice broken promises including treaty between two nations.
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>>52797571
Why do you care about Yasukuni Shrine?
Even the Vatican celebrated the Mass for Japanese class A war criminal.
Not only war criminals but all Japanese people who died because of national crisis during is enshrined in Yasukuni Shrine.
my grand father's brother is enshrined too.
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>>52797782
t. Kim
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>>52797782
But this thread is about Japan, you stupid Korean.
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to be quite honest, only things like this are the threads where we feel free to post. who would welcome retarded English speakers somewhere else?
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lol at japs who think we needed money
These islands niggers seriously think we needed a fucking 8 million dollar. That would cost less than my local neighborhood public park.
That was a winning deal for Japan. It was a profitable deal for your government you retards.
No more mentioning of comfort women matters in international politics. Get it you mutant chinks?
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>>52795843
This is a game between America and China.
Chinese GDP became no.2 in 2011. Then behavior of Korean government changed.
I don't like this proxy fight.
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>>52795633
they need to resolve the dokdo problem now
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so looking at this thread, both jap and korean are butthurt on this? lol
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>>52797952
why do australians hate nips so much?
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Haven't they apologized before, AND given out payments? Pretty sure this is just another one of those cases in which the gooks will either ignore it or eventually forget about it, only to continue their fit later on. Don't think anything nips ever do will ease the hate, aside from maybe erasing themselves from history.
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>>52798111
Whales, fucking hippies.
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>>52798092
Both are buttmad about this deal, yes. But it's Japanese posters who are continuously shitposting about South Korea pretty much.
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>>52798049
>muh money
>making up stories of forced labor
then make them mouth shut up
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Nobody cares.

Seriosly I don't think that Koreans shut their mouth by that apology and money.

Japan already gave it both...

I have no hope to relationship with korea and china.
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>>52798158
>"""Jap""" posters
We all know who's really behind those flags.
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>>52798131
Yes they did but it's more recent problems that PM Abe has been making. He have numerously brought up ww2 matter and shit-talked about war crimes imperial Japan did. Visiting Yasukuni shrine etc.
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>>52798221
US Navy?
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>>52798221
Japanese flags being proxy is getting old. weebs wouldn't admit but they're legit nips.
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>>52798235
And Korean and Chinese living in Japan.
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>>52798282
Oh yeah, sure.
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>>52797911
I just want the war criminals to be removed. I don't mind Japanese celebrating their fallen soldiers and civilians.
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>>52798234
>visiting Yasukuni
only you and China are exploiting it as politics issue.
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>>52798370
it's probably a rare case. most of them are real nips. our butthurt is real.
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>>52797952
>Korea and China

sasuga lel

Maybe they would be surprise that China and Korea are more hated than war criminal nation in Asia.
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>>52798374
That's discrimination.

ALL soldiers serving under the emperor go to the shrine.
ALL, no exceptions.
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>>52798374
no means to remove only them. can copy though.
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>>52798450
I doubt a real Japanese person would call himself a 'nip'.
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>>52798454
Tojo isn't soldier nor died in the battlefield.
Putting class A warcriminal in the shrine is an exception.
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>>52798454
Emperor Hirohito opposed the enshrinement of the 14 Class A criminals and no member of the royal family has visited the Yasukuni Shrine since 1975. Why should they do that if they think all soldiers serving under the emperor go to the shrine with no exceptions?

>>52798477
Why? I would like to know.
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>>52798518
I'm just following the manner of 4chan. what you say also is so suspicious that you look like a nip. Aussies are never act like weeb
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>>52798571
I am very suspicious of YOU now.

Always Korean/Chinese suspect you of being Japanese if you like Japan.

Yes, I believe you are not Japanese.
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>>52798567
why? it's because that's a thing. that's all. I can't make Muslims eat pork.
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>>52795633
>japs
>people
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>>52798599
I am not trying to taunt you . I am simply ignorant of the facts and would like to know the reason.
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>>52798531
Tojo was a general of the Army.
That's a soldier.

>>52798567
>Why should they do that if they think all soldiers serving under the emperor go to the shrine with no exceptions?
That's the rule.
All soldiers go to the shrine.

Ever since the Meiji Restoration.
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>>52798601
t. kim jong un
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>>52798070
This.
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>>52798593
fuck, now i'm suspicious of YOUR post. you smell like a korean / chinese...
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>>52798617
Even if that is the rule I do not see why war criminals should be respected alongside good people fighting for their country.
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>>52798601
Nk flag what the fuck how
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>>52798630
Why would Korean/Chinese support the Empire of Japan?

>>52798689
'History is written by the victor'.
The rules of war only apply to the losers.

Curtis LeMay killed around 900,000 Japanese CIVILIANS.
He got a medal and continued his career into the Vietnam War.
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>>52798689
in our view,American soldiers were all war criminal.they raped and killed women and children in WW2.
But those soldiers are hero in the US
and respected by Americans.
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>>52798617

A drop of shit ruins a barrel of honey. You put convicted class A war criminals with regular soldiers you dishonor the soldiers and ruin the memory.
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>>52795633
?

it means nothing theyve done it before, last time they paid out for it korea gave none of the money to the victims. its just so that on an international stage korea can't pull the "MUH IMPERIALISTIC JAPAN" card because no one will give a shit
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>>52798764
History
Is
Written
By
The
Victor

Hideki Tojo SAVED THE EMPEROR.
He took all the blame, which let Emperor Showa live.
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>>52798725
Have I ever expressed the view that American war criminals should be honoured? Although I respect soldiers I despise war criminals no matter which country they are from, even China. Mao Zedong is the person I hate the most.

>>52798763
Did any American generals order massacres or rapes of civilians or was it just individual soldiers committing crimes? I think soldiers should be honoured, but not war criminals.
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>>52798822

> History Is Written By The Victor

Thats a meme tier trope that simply isnt even true. Judaica is a prime example.

>He took all the blame, which let Emperor Showa live.

Tojo was going to be executed regardless of what shouldve happened to the emperor. The US allowed the Emperor to live to be a puppet king and cement US domination of Japanese culture and politics.
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>>52798851
>I think soldiers should be honoured, but not war criminals

Can you read my posting?
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>>52798851
>Did any American generals order massacres or rapes of civilians
Yes, I just fucking told you
CURTIS LEMAY.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raids_on_Japan

>Estimates vary between 241,000 and 900,000 civilians killed
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>>52798851
>Did any American generals order massacres or rapes of civilians

yes
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We zionists musn't ever allow such a union.

if it ever happens they will steamroll over every western industry and bank like rabid termites. They'll turn us all into their sweatshop slave labor.

We must turn Japan into North Japan and South Japan, just like Koreas.
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>>52798601
R A R E
A
R
E
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>>52798888
>Thats a meme tier trope that simply isnt even true.
Really, so in China Mao Zedong is revialed for the evil villain he is?

Stupid American.
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>Did any American generals order massacres or rapes of civilians

Serious question?

Chinese believe only Japanese commit war crime??

Do you know that American soldiers raped and killed many women and children in the world even now?

how naive chinese are.
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>>52798763

Dont delude yourself. The US was far more civilized than the Japanese were. Japanese soldiers killed more civilians than soldiers in WW2 using bayonets, bamboo spears, and shovels. It also doesnt help that Japan was a theocracy that literally believed the emperor was a hereditary god-king, you cant make this shit up.
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>>52798975
k...
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>>52798616
I was not mad to you at all. first, there are only souls over there, not dead bodies nor dead bones. second, it's being said, I have no idea how to explain how we treat those souls. it's like one god that consists of them can't be separated but we can copy the god in a way as to build the same name shrines. this is Shinto.
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>>52798975
' The Japanese's mouth glowed with huge gold-crowned teeth, and his captor wanted them. He put the point of his kabar [combat knife] on the base of a tooth and hit the handle with the palm of his hand. Because the Japanese was kicking his feet and thrashing about, the knife point glanced off the tooth and sank deeply into the victim's mouth. The Marine cursed him and with a slash cut his cheeks open to each ear. He put his foot on the sufferer's lower jaw and tried again. Blood poured out of the soldier's mouth. He made a gurgling noise and thrashed wildly. I shouted, “Put the man out of his misery.” All I got for an answer was a cussing out. Another Marine ran up, put a bullet in the enemy soldier's brain, and ended his agony. The scavenger grumbled and continued extracting his prizes undisturbed.[8]'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_mutilation_of_Japanese_war_dead
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>>52798924

Mao wasnt a war criminal nor claimed to be a hereditary god-king. In China Mao is respected for founding the People's Republic but even the CCP has distanced itself from Mao's radicalism since the 1970's
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>>52798975
americans always were are and will be soviet tier scumbags and deserve to be killed and poisoned
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>>52798898
Hm you are right I should have refuted your view first. Your view is not the truth. Not all American soldiers are war criminals. I am also fine with Japanese respecting their soldiers, just not the war criminals. There, you can respond to my point now.

>>52798901
Bombings are different from massacres or rapes. Every country was bombed during the war. It is a quick death, merciful even, when compared to getting killed by blades or guns. Massacres and rapes are firsthand and lasting to the civilians who experenced them. No allied troops landed on Japan soil so soldiers could not play around and make a game of killing civilians, or freely rape girls as young as 14 years old without any interference from officers.

>>52798913
Source please. I should have added that bombings do not count as every country experienced bombings.
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>>52799042

Son, youre gonna lose.
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It's already 70 years from that crazy time and most of current generations have no connection to that war. Always asking for apologize from not-connected generation for their grandpa's fault only make people like pussy and have no help to peace but more conflict. Why our three countries have so many similarities in culture and history can't cooperation more and win the competition in global stage?
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>>52798975
>>52799099


>>52799085
>It is a quick death, merciful even, when compared to getting killed by blades or guns
No, it wasn't explosive bombs, it was firebombs.

They BURNT THEM TO DEATH.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_raids_on_Japan#Firebombing_attacks
'USAAF planners began assessing the feasibility of a firebombing campaign against Japanese cities in 1943.'

You're being stupid on purpose now.
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>>52799042
Torture of soldiers, though despicable are nothing compared to killing or raping civilians on such a huge scale as in Nanjing.
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>>52798601
cool flag..
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>>52799126

The Japanese were killing US POW's well after they had surrendered, not fast and easy either. The used katanas dulled from cutting bone to behead US service members full jihad style.
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>>52799127
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Tokyo
>75,000–200,000 civilian deaths; roughly 1,000,000 displaced

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanking_Massacre
>50,000–300,000 dead
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>>52799169
Hello Chang, I see you are enjoying life in America.

You think I'm going to believe such propaganda lies?
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>>52799126
It is objective whether a fiery death or getting raped to death is worse. However firebombing was not limited to Japan. There were firebombings of Hamburg Dresden, London, Coventry, Frampol, Wielun, Warsaw, Chongqing.
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>>52799183
Like I said, bombings are not as firsthand and lasting as rapes and massacres to civilians who experienced them. That is why bombings do not cause as much controversy. Were the Chinese involved in bombing Tokyo? I will stop speaking for the Americans because it is not my place to defend them.
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fuck korean
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>>52799316
Do you not see that they bombed civilians?
BURNT THEM TO DEATH

WITH FIRE

WHERE JAPANESE HOUSES ARE MADE OF PAPER

BEING BAKED ALIVE

You and I will never agree.
I was pro-Allies before, there is no way I'm going back.
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>>52799104
I agree with you.
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>>52799383
Please read >>52799212. One difference is that the allied countries teach their children that they had killed many civilians by bombings, while the Japanese government is trying to whitewash their war crimes during the war. I'm not pro allies either I believe they were almost as bad as the axis.
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>>52799481
I'm not Japanese so why the fuck are you telling me?

And you didn't grow up in Japan so you have no right in saying anything about what they teach over there.

>One difference is that the allied countries teach their children that they had killed many civilians by bombings
No, they really did not.

I was never taught that the Americans killed almost 1million Japanese civilians.

I was never taught Australian soldiers bayonetted Japanese POWs.
I was never taught Australian soliders threw Japanese POWs off plans.
I was never taught Americans carved out Japanese remains and brought them home as souvenirs.

How do you know what Western education is or Japanese education is if you didn't grow up here?
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>>52798601
North KIM! can I have your autograph!?
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>jap poster defending from their point of view
>hong kong poster defending from their point of view
>us poster defending from their point of view
>australian cucked so hard he actually supports the japanese empire

what
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>>52799557
I had assumed Hong Kong's education was somewhat similar to Western education. Perhaps not. We were taught about the bombings by both sides, but the curriculum mainly focused on China, and after doing my own research it was undeniable that the Japanese did much worse to the Chinese than vice versa. Are the Japanese free to whitewash their crimes just because Western countries do the same? I am simply focusing on the Japanese government because Japan is close to my country and I love Japan. Maybe you can start a new thread to debate the atrocities of the Allies?
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>>52799557
>>52799694
I will admit my mistake in thinking the allies taught about their own crimes though and I apologise. By the way I was telling you because this was a thread about asian relations and I thought you were Japanese.
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Geez, Korean foreign minister comments that Korean government didn't make a promise to relocate a comfort woman statue in front of the Japanese embassy. I hate to say but they should follow Article 22 in Vienna convention on diplomatic relations.
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>>52795633
nobody gives 2 shits
ITT autism :DD
it's so fucking funny you guys are exited about it.
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>>52799725
>and I thought you were Japanese.
Japanese people do not immigrate a lot.
Don't assume that.

It's just so freaking obvious Japan would have made Asia prosperous and strong.

The Americans were afraid of that.
A strong, non-White nation is difficult for them to accept.
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>>52799859
pretty much

look at brazil. they are slightly white, therefore they are slightly strong.
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>>52799859
japanese imperialism was eerie 2bh it's better they lost
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>>52799183
I'm going to use the highest estimates that I can find for casualties during WW2.


>Japanese Total Deaths

3,238,000 total deaths
Werner Gruhl, Imperial Japan's World War Two, 1931–1945 Transaction 2007 ISBN 978-0-7658-0352-8 p. 144

>Japanese Total Genocide

From the invasion of China in 1937 to the end of World War II, the Japanese military regime murdered near 3,000,000 to over 10,000,000 people, most probably almost 6,000,000 Chinese, Indonesians, Koreans, Filipinos, and Indochinese, among others, including Western prisoners of war.

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/SOD.CHAP3.HTM

>japs dindu nuffin
>dey wuz good boys
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>>52799953
You can't convince me since I believe 'history is written by the victor'.

You can make up any lie if everyone who disagrees with you is dead, after-all.

I'm not denying they didn't do bad things, I just don't think it matters.
What I don't like is Allies thinking they was the good boys that 'dindu nuffin'.

>>52799952
They never planned to invade Australia, if that was your concern.

'We never had enough troops to [invade Australia]. We had already far out-stretched our lines of communication. We did not have the armed strength or the supply facilities to mount such a terrific extension of our already over-strained and too thinly spread forces. We expected to occupy all New Guinea, to maintain Rabaul as a holding base, and to raid Northern Australia by air. But actual physical invasion—no, at no time.' - Hideki Tojo.
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>>52799859

Whats difficult to accept is cherry picking pictures from 1880 and comparing them to pictures from 1940.

Are you that Cambodian kid who lives in Australia who loves Japan so much?
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>>52798131
Pretty much.
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>>52800051
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule#Economy_and_modernization


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_under_Japanese_rule#Economic_and_educational_development
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>>52798452
> via 9gag.com

what the hell
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The war is very sad.
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>>52800079

according to the graph you present the rise of industry, fishery, and forestry seem to be about at the same progressive trend they were prior to annexation. The most startling trend is between 1935-1940, but this coincides with the introduction of mechanization rather than annexation.
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>>52799766
>>52799784
>>52799807
kim ttongsul
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>>52800045
>They never planned to invade Australia, if that was your concern.
they bombed darwin, and the navy wanted to try it.

the real problem was the religious fanaticism that lead them to believe cutting people's heads off was still okay, and the kamikaze pilot suicide bombers. this is literally ISIS tier stuff. what was actually being dealt with was their 'destiny manifest' attitude after winning a tonne of prior wars
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>>52800202

wait a moment, I wasnt paying attention to the graph very well, why is the y axis on the left in billions of yen and the y axis on the right measured in only hundreds of millions of yen? This graph is implying the industry declined lol.
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Please grateful to Japan Koreans .
Your development thanks to Japan .
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>>52800236
i meant manifest destiny.

i also don't think a japanese empire would have lasted very long, because there's just too much to dominate.
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>>52799042
>>52799126
I have no idea why an aussie would defend imperial japan even though almost all japanese don't, I can only assume you're a weaboo

imperial japan was a fucked up place and rivals isis in terms of repulsiveness and devotion.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chichijima_incident
they practiced fucking cannibalism
FUCKING CANNIBALISM
not even isis has that much disrespect for human life.

you can debate if nuclear weapons were overkill but you can't admit that imperial japan was a force of good or that dey dindu nuffin, and you can't admit that USA was worse than imperial japan.
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>>52800079
Well.. In 1945, japan lost the war and they spread counterfeit money in confusing Korea. So why did they do it? Aust-kun?
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Japan has repented .
It was to annihilate the Koreans and Chinese .
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>>52800202
>>52800259
Holy shit, how fucking stupid can you be.
I even linked you the entire articles.

Holy shit, Chang, don't ever talk about history again.

>>52800236
Shintoism is a bit different from Abrahamic religions.

'Since the Japanese language does not distinguish between singular and plural, kami refers to the divinity, or sacred essence, that manifests in multiple forms. Rocks, trees, rivers, animals, places, and even people can be said to possess the nature of kami.[10] Kami and people exist within the same world and share its interrelated complexity.[5]'


The Pope has a direct line to God Jehovah,
The Emperor is a descendant of the Goddess of the Sun Amaterasu,
It is not much different.


Beheading come from the samurai stuff.
They beheaded themselves too, you know?
Ritual suicide.
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>>52799354
> Man slapping woman is satisfying to see

It's sad that we Japanese are cowards and ball less faggots
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>>52800336
There was this plane that crashed in the mountains.
The survivors practiced cannibalism out of starvation.
Are you to judge them?
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>>52800405
>torturing, beheading, and then eating POWs is ay okay because we were hungry
maybe at the point where your commanders don't give a fuck about you to send supplies you should consider if fighting and dying for these people that couldn't give a shit about you is really worth it.

not all cases of cannibalism were out of sustenance some where just ritual cannibalization of the liver and other organs.
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>>52800376

> I even quoted wikipedia

Yeah, nah. That graph makes no sense. Im not denying Japan developed Korea during the occupation, Im saying the rate of development under Japan was about the same rate as it was prior annexation until 1935 when mechanization was introduced.
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>>52795633
so? japs paied such a small samll money to korea and jap think the sin of war criminal of comfort woman will be gone?
itsimmpossible.
the point is not a money but the attitude of japs and how much seriousely apologise the war crime of comfort woman seriousely
as well as germoney apologised war crime of nazis.
the whole asin will not forgive anf forget a war crime of comfort woman even if jap paied small small money for it now. its not such things.
jap must face own sin of war criminal forever as like germoney.
that is all
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I want to fuck comfort women.
Where is my comfort women?
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>>52800532
>>52800336
not even him but the situation wouldn't have been as bad if the japanese high commanders had better control over the lower ranked ones.

i'm forgetting specific names and ranks completely at this point, but for a while the lesser commanders were basically given free reign because of their early victories which central command was loathe to interrupt. this lead to really poor discipline and unnecessary cruelty.

they were also overstretched and their supply lines nonexistent, so many soldiers just starved or killed themselves and the ones that wanted to live ate each other.

on paper it looks awful but if you look deeper into the situation you'll at least have a pretty good understanding of why it all happened

i think it's time to forget it now though. srs
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>>52800532
>>52800552
Japanese military was very short on supplies.
VERY SHORT.
Canned food was considered a luxury.

The reason they began expansion was to get more supplies, because Japan has very little natural resources.

>some where just ritual cannibalization of the liver and other organs.
I find that hard to believe, since death is impure and shintoism teaches purity.

' Death and everything having to do with it are seen as a primary source of defilement.[4]'

'Those who attend a Buddhist funeral receive a small bag of salt to purify themselves before they return to their homes, in order to avoid bringing kegare to their families.[5]

The family's kami must be protected as much as possible from contact with death, blood, and disease.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegare

>>52800552
> Im saying the rate of development under Japan was about the same rate as it was prior annexation until 1935

'Economic output in terms of agriculture, fishery, forestry and industry increased by tenfold from 1910 to 1945 as illustrated on the chart to the right.[64] This phenomenal rate of development was unexpected even by the Japanese. Princeton's Atul Kohli, have concluded that the economic development model the Japanese instituted played the crucial role in Korean economic development, a model that was maintained by the Koreans in the post-World War II era.[65]'
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>>52800638
everyone wants to forget it especially the japanese.
but then you have that aussie fuck trying to justify warcrimes and saying stupid shit like imperial japan wasn't so bad and the only reason USA destroyed it was because they were afraid of a strong asia.
I thought australia had a decent had a decent school system how the fuck does someone become that retarded.
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>>52795633
>Is this a step towards a united Asia?
I think this is a step towards a Korea war second.
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>>52800727
>I don't agree with it
>therefor it is stupid

American education in a nutshell.

I guess it's pointless to speak with you.
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>>52800726
>I find that hard to believe, since death is impure and shintoism teaches purity.
oh well I guess all the documented civilians death are just made up because its against their religion to kill.

also I guess 9/11 never happened because islam is a religion of peace
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>>52800727
He's that one weeaboo dude from some SE Asian country who wishes Japan colonized his shithole motherland.

As if that would have done anything. Can't remember the last time someone who actually knows anything about geopolitics was in these threads.
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>>52800727
his subtle pro-korean views lead me to believe he is korean which is even more puzzling. he is probably just a massive weeabo though,
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>>52800624
kimchi san konnnitiwa!
병신밥맛이야
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Why does the concept of warcriminal even exist? It was a war people killed each other, get over it. It's like warcriminal just a fancy word for the leaders of the losing side...
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>>52800342
>counterfeit money
Do you know that these money is found in the Japanese vending machine a lot?
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Doesn't change shit.

Fuck Korea

and fuck Japan

hey,.


Fuck you!
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>>52800786
>As if that would have done anything.
It seriously could not have been worse than what it is.

Thank you, America, thank you for supporting Communism.
My country loved it.

You Americans never care about the consequences of your actions.
Only your own selfish agenda.

Fucking Mujaheddin was funded by Americans!

You want me to believe America is great for supporting Communism and supporting Muslim extremism?

YOU didn't have to suffer through it.
You live in your nice little safe country, away from all the shit.
And then you stir it up with a long broom from your couch watching television, telling the rest of the world dinner will be ready soon.
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>>52800927
cao ni ma
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>>52800887
>spread counterfeit money in korea
>counterfeit money in japanese vendingmachine
irrelevant answer netouyo-kun ㅠㅠ
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>>52800968
You're literally telling us shit we already know. Yeah, I get it, America has done shitty things. Don't act like you're proving a point.
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>>52800726

> Im still quoting wikipedia

A x10 increase in four sectors over 35 years isn't particularly impressive nor uncommon. The 'Japanese development model' was state capitalism which Japan supplemented investment into Korea, which I dont deny. But according to the chart referenced the rate of increase remained about the same prior to annexation as it did after, the exception being between 1935-1940 which seems like when the output increased x10.
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>>52801159
>weabo australian tries to prove that black-white world view of the americans is retarded and it should be applied to ww2 either
>SHUT UP I ALREADY KNOW THAT
So what's your problem?
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>>52795633
so? japs paied such a small samll money to korea and jap think the sin of war criminal of comfort woman will be gone?
itsimmpossible.
the point is not a money but the attitude of japs and how much seriousely apologise the war crime of comfort woman seriousely
as well as germoney apologised war crime of nazis.
the whole asin will not forgive anf forget a war crime of comfort woman even if jap paied small small money for it now. its not such things.
jap must face own sin of war criminal forever as like germoney.
that is all
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>>52800968
>Thank you, America, thank you for supporting Communism.
we never supported communism
hell we toppled democratically elected governments just because they were communists.
>My country loved it.
which country are talking about because australia wasn't really that affected during the cold war.

what america does not justify imperial japan's war crimes though. we could go and holocaust isreal but that won't make japan's actions somehow justifiable now. why can't you accept that imperial japan was a horrible place, just because that would mean america is right for once and this goes against your whole world view?
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>>52801083
I dislike netouyo.
I can understand that you dislike Japan to some extent. But, you should see the history objectively a little more.

>spread counterfeit money in korea
What is it ?
Is it a story after Japan lost war?
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>>52798452

>9gag

go die in a hole you weeb.
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Sorry. I have overlooked the part that Japanese military ate the POW. It's pure evilness and savagery. It has to be judged rather than understood.
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>>52800968
>Fucking Mujaheddin was funded by Americans!
>>52795474
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>>52800968
>Only your own selfish agenda.
As opposed to the benevolence of Japan and every other country on Earth, right? Do you really want to get into this?

It's unfortunate, but SE Asia, like Latin America, was never going to get particularly developed due to 1) subpar location/resources and 2) not geopolitically important enough to bolster. For the first point, look at countries like Brazil. No matter how much investment they get, they still struggle because there are just too many geographical obstacles in certain countries to easily reach parity with developed nation status.

As for the second, Japan and especially S. Korea developed as much as they did in the postwar era because they were both politically relevant and incorporated into the Bretton Woods system of world trade largely overseen by the United States (this system continues to underpin world trade today). The modern Japanese investment-export development model was made possible by this system.

In contrast, part of the reason Cambodia got fucked because it was independent and chose to be non-aligned in a treacherous Cold War environment. If it had become a puppet state of a victorious Imperial Japan, it is very likely SE Asia wouldn't have been spared going through proxy shit since the Axis would not have been able to force the Allies into complete submission. It would have just been a Cold War standoff with proxy wars in a different form.
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Just feel it
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>>52801367
>we never supported communism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lend-Lease#US_deliveries_to_the_USSR

In total, the US deliveries through Lend-Lease amounted to $11 billion in materials: over 400,000 jeeps and trucks; 12,000 armored vehicles (including 7,000 tanks, about 1,386[31] of which were M3 Lees and 4,102 M4 Shermans);[32] 11,400 aircraft (4,719 of which were Bell P-39 Airacobras)[33] and 1.75 million tons of food.[34]

Roughly 17.5 million tons of military equipment, vehicles, industrial supplies, and food were shipped from the Western Hemisphere to the USSR, 94% coming from the US. For comparison, a total of 22 million tons landed in Europe to supply American forces from January 1942 to May 1945. It has been estimated that American deliveries to the USSR through the Persian Corridor alone were sufficient, by US Army standards, to maintain sixty combat divisions in the line.[35][36]

The rest of your shit is also fucking wrong and I honestly don't have the fucking time to deal with it.
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>>52800342
"Aust-kun" kek
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>>52801523
Not supporting communism. Supporting a communist country to fight a greater evil, yes. But not a endorsement of communism.
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>>52801619
There is no greater evil than communism.
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>>52801651
"Greater evil" in the sense that they were a greater threat to American interests, my beleaguered victim of communism.
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gooks is a beggar.
they will demand more more more.
then we should have exterminated it.
that was our mistake.
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>>52801378
>>52800100
original source

>http://www.pewglobal.org/2015/09/02/how-asia-pacific-publics-see-each-other-and-their-national-leaders/
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>>52801818
Actually "greater evil" in the sense that communism is the biggest threat to humanity and its qualities. Prove me wrong.
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>>52800927
Do you not know that Japan has helped your country by our country giving much money and various techniques since 1980? The Chinese Communist Party will not tell this fact to own nations,though.
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>>52802115

This must be why socialist western europe is such a hellhole and capitalist russia is such a paradise
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>>52802115
I am got angry at by the own nation.
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>>52802115
By "greater evil" I meant the Nazis, who were the biggest threat to American interests at the time. I used "greater evil" just as an expression, not an actual evaluation of communism vs fascism.
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Koreans don't want money. They have enough of it. Japan should have just acknowledged that comfort women were forced. Write it on every history textbook. Never forget about it because it must not repeat. Instead Japan offered money again, and the stupid bitch Pres. Park accepted. Now Korea can never speak about comfort women. We will never see comfort women being mentioned in any Japanese history book in the future. How is that a sincere apology?
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>>52803958
But ur women come to Japan and comfort me.
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>>52803958
I think you should let Japan decide what to put in its history books and let the world judge it for it. The comfort women thing is pretty much accepted in mainstream history anyway, the only issue is the tiny, but vocal revisionist lobby in Japan.
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>>52803958
what do you Koreans think textbook is? we're just following "facts". mostly Comfort women are made up of Japanese women, and they knew themselves as prostitutes so that we have no shameless old hags, unlike you. if you want to change our mind, give us a new story like 200.000 Korean sex slaves that Japanese news paper made up.
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>>52803958
kek
Will you be countries of the anti-Japan education?
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>>52804073
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>>52803631
The Latvians accepted Nazi rule once they drove the Russians out. They saw the Nazis as the lesser of two evils, since the commies pretty much ran aground their entire country.

The world doesn't revolve around America lad.
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>>52804073
>>52808511
seriously, S.Korea should stop exporting whores.
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>>52801478
Many years dependency good posture S.K
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>>52803958
after the ww2, you and America have adopted same systems like japan countresly did.
If you find prostitution system of military itself illegal, why don't you and other victims forced to be "sex slave " accuse for other cases?
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>>52808602
Well, the original post was talking about whether or not America supported communism.
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>>52804145
>The comfort women thing is pretty much accepted in mainstream history anyway
This. Only in Japan can you find large groups of people who deny the existence of comfort women, the Nanjing Massacre, etc. The rest of the world (or here, at least) don't buy it.
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>>52809452
>deny the existence of comfort women
literally who did? you should take it for sex slaves.
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>>52809875
just to let you know, I don't mention the case of dutch comfort women in Indonesia. and that was just a case of personal crime.
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>>52798158
>implying the Korean diaspora isn't the source of most shitposting
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