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previous thread >>52761807
What is the source of Albanians? Did they really came to Europe with Turks from Caucasian Albania "Arran"? Are they original Azari before turkification of them?
First for eternal Romanian butthurt
>>52775926
>" În portulanele genoveze de la Muzeul Național al Hărților și Cărții Vechi din București, Moldova mai apare și sub numele de Velacia Bogdana, în timp ce Transilvania apare sub numele de Velacia Interiore iar Țara Românească sub numele de Velacia Bassaraba."
"Bassarabian Vallahia = Moldova"
>"sub denumirea de Moldova este cunoscută și de străini (Moldau, Moldavie, Moldavia...). Apare deasemenea sub numele de Ruso-Vlahia, adică "țara românească dinspre ruși"
Wallahia towards the russians = Moldova
>"Primele mențiuni despre o populație probabil parțial românească în zona Moldovei (secolul XIII) sunt cele referitoare la bolohoveni, denumire apropiată de voloh și wloh, denumiri date de slavi românilor. "
Moldovans = Wallahians
Radu is so pathetic.
>>52776004
Albanians are most likely admixtures of dacian and yllirians from the balkans and shared the same ethnogenesis to romanians, which is why we have some common words in our languages
The immigration theory doesn't hold water
DANISHASPORA ANSWER THESE
>>52775914
>>52776007
why don't we exhaust the previous thread before moving in new ones?
"1357. The Polish chronicler Jan Długosz mentioned Moldavians (under the name Wallachians) as having joined a military expedition in 1342, under King Władysław I, against the Margraviate of Brandenburg.[8]"
>>52775926
Why is Istanbul Balkan but morea is not?
>>52776051
Radu will ignore this out of sheer butthurt
>>52776004
We are native to the Balkans, the first Albanian "state" was the Principality of Arbanon. We were Christian but some of us converted to Islam to not pay the Christian tax. Also our language is unique and is thought to be a descendant of either Illyrian or other ancient Balkan languages like Thracian or Dacian.
>>52776004
They're actually one of the firs people in the balkans, in fact the only reason this is neglected is because the pseudo-greeks stole their alphabet and are now considered to be the founding fathers of almost everything, this however is a slanderous myth. The ancient Illyrian tribes, which now make up of Albanias majority, have a history of being great craftsmen, philosophers, warriors and so on. Thus they were prime targets for the Hellenic jews which sought after their technology. Long story short everything we take for granted today in the fields of Mathematics, Philosophy, Law and even Physics come from the Albanians. Furthermore they are the fathers of many great dynasties that ruled Rome, Byzantium, The Rus, The Austrians and even Hitler said, in his book Mein Kampf, that the only living nation resembling completely to the once mighty Aryans are in fact Albanians. That's why he conquered the balkans so he could study their unique and untouched genetic structure. As i have stated Albanians are the only balkan nation and even the only european one to be treated with dignity and respect which they surely deserve.
>>52776014
Yes, moldovans speak a language similar to romanian, which is used interchangeably as moldovan and romanian.
> Și așa ieste acestor țări și țărâi noastre, Moldovei și Țărâi Muntenești numele cel direptŭ de moșie, ieste rumân
Acum permite-mi sa completez cu un contemporan a lui Costin din Valahia, Constantin Cantacuzino
>Cea de jos si mai mica, tara aceasta munteneasca, cum ii mai spun multi, ca rumuneasca doar locuitorii sai o cheama, si unii din ardeleni rumuni, pentru ca numai noi si ei cand ne intrebam, ce suntem? Rumuni, iar moldovenii se deosebesc si raspund, moldovani
Concluzia? Romani se identificau doar romanii din valahia si ardeal. Si punct.
>>52776241
>He was born in R.Moldova and his mama forced him to learn Russian
>Ethnic Moldovan
>>52776324
10/10 m8, great storytelling tbqh
>>52776051
>Bolohoveni
>Romani
AHHHAHAHAAAAHAHAHAAAHAHAaaha..ah..HAAHHAHAHAAHAHA
>>52776354
>Romani se identificau doar romanii din valahia si ardea
Ai adus doar o anecdota cretina, a intrebat un cretin doi tarani si a tras el o concluzie rapida, amre dobitoc mai esti si tu, mananci cu lingura orice rahat doar pentru ca este scris pe hartie
p.s. esti o corcitura ruso-tatara
>>52776292
you have good opinions on europe, but you're Albanian so fuck you
>>52776127
nevermind he did here
>>52776209
>>52776435
>Bolohoveni
>bolohi
>blahi
>vlahi
wew
>>52776227
Sint la neamuri in vizita.
>''Pierdut este acela pentru care retrăirea destinului nostru nu este o răspîntie în viaţa sa şi un prilej de tragedie. Nu este naţionalist acela pe care nu-l chinuie pînă la halucinaţie faptul că noi, românii, n-am făcut pînă acum istorie, ci am aşteptat să ne facă istoria, să ne dinamizeze un torent transcendent fiinţei noastre; nu este naţionalist acel ce nu e frămîntat de limitarea fatală care închide România în cercul şi fatalitatea culturilor mici, a acelor culturi care n-au curajul să se învîrtă în jurul propriei lor axe: nu e naţionalist acel care nu suferă infinit că România n-are misiunea istorică a unei culturi mari, imperialismul politic, megalomania inerentă şi voinţa nesfîrşită de putere, caracteristice marilor naţiuni, precum nu e naţionalist acel ce nu doreşte fanatic saltul transfigurator. România nu poate fi iubită naiv, neproblematic, pătruns de exigenţele unei iubiri evidente, fiindcă nu este atît de evident că România trebuie iubită. [...] Nu e mare lucru a iubi România din instinct; nu este merit. Dar să o iubeşti după ce ai dipserat total de destinul ei, îmi pare totul. Şi cine n-a disperat de destinul României niciodată, acela n-a înţeles nimic din complexitatea acestei probleme şi acela nu va fi angajat nicicînd profetic în destinul acestei ţări.''
>>52776292
>He put mixed for us instead of GAS
I admire your self restraint Albo bro, given the shit we post here
>>52776435
"Miron Costin(Moldovan) spune în lucrarea "De neamul moldovenilor" (1686) că "lăcuitorii țării noastre, Moldovei și Țării Muntenești și românii din țările ungurești, că tot un neam sunt și odată discălicați""
>>52776582
he cangas monkeydonia because of the proud albanians living there, nothing more
>>52776522
So why is there no written documents about them in other sources other than that of the Russian Chronicle, and why is all the cities where they are mentioned to partake in battles are somewhere deep into today's Ukraine?
That's probably because they were slavic tribes.
>Bolohoveni
>Vlahi
That's some romanian nationalist mental gymnastic shit right there.
>>52776631
"Cronicarul Ioan de Târnave consemna:
„Bogdan voievodul românilor din Maramureș, adunând la el pe românii acelui district, a trecut în taină în țara Moldovei, care era supusă coroanei Ungariei, dar din cauza vecinătății tătarilor de mult timp părăsită de locuitori. Și cu toate că a fost combătut mai adeseori de oastea regelui însuși, totuși crescând marele număr al românilor locuitori în aceea țară, s-a dezvoltat ca stat.[13][14]”"
Bolohoveni:
" În Transilvania, sașii îi numeau în trecut pe români: "Blochen" sau "Blechen". (sg. "Bloch" sau "Bloche" sau "Bleche")."
Vlah, Vloh, Bloh, Olah = Vlah.
>>52776053
>Albanians are most likely admixtures of dacian and yllirians from the balkans
>t. armchair scientist
Their ancestors are none of those. Y-DNA analysis proves this. The Dacian/Thracian/Illyrian Y-DNA belongs to haplogroup I2.
>>52776454
N-am mai vazut atata curfrustrare in viata mea de la un subiect asa tampit ca istoria ahahaha
>>52776776
boule
>>52776757
>Bulgaria
>Northern Greece
>Macedonia
Nice meme map tho famili
>>52776776
>Ignora fiecare postare din thread fara replica
>"Cate curfrustrare in thread"
>>52776776
>Фoтo-дня-paкeтa-кocмoc
>>52776497
Not only it has been predicted yet, but they are predicting future plans for the flooding of Europe with migrants. This is just plan number X of their long game agenda.
>>52776757
>The Dacian/Thracian/Illyrian Y-DNA belongs to haplogroup I2.
Source on this please?
Romanians go here
>>>/pol/59485896
>>52776757
You do realize haplos are mostly autistical bullshit right
>>52776808
Nu mai fi suparat, cu timpul o sa te deprinzi ;)
>>52776865
N-am de gand sa-ti citesc spamurile repetate pana cand nu aduci un argument formulat, Ros.
Te bad la filtru deja nu stiu a cata oara.
>>52776993
>N-am de gand sa-ti citesc spamurile repetate pana cand nu aduci un argument formulat, Ros.
Nu e nici o rusine sa declari ca esti analfabet si lipsit de argumente.
>Te bad la filtru deja nu stiu a cata oara.
Nu mai mintii Ivan.
>>52775926
we dont belong to Balkan you fucking racist stereotype prick
>>52777108
Shush, Alpine Serb.
>>52777089
Ce argumente?
>>52777108
>Jew, the country
>>52777108
fucking knew at least one of you would say that, you fuckers get so triggered by this petty shit
>>52776993
They're not bullshit they're just used wrong by memeers i.e. one haplo = one race
>>52777162
Exact: 0 argumente.
how's your "coming back home to your alcoholic dad" going on so far?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx7X8_qcP4U
Come home, Slovenia.
>tfw no gf
>>52777247
care 0 argumente?
>>52776993
>You do realize haplos are mostly autistical bullshit right
"The Y chromosome is passed almost unchanged from father to son. That lets you trace your paternal ancestry."
It is autistic only when used to justify someone's whiteness and things like this. The only thing it does is to pinpoint to the origin of your recent (~3000 years ago) ancestor.
>>52777303
why do you want a gf faggot? you'll still be pathetic with or without one
>>52777358
Is it worth getting a 23andme analysis?
>>52777303
>am deja peste 20 de ani
>vreau să am o femeie alături de care să trăiesc și să o fut noaptea
>destinat unei vie'i de autist singuratic
>>52777303
None needed
Can someone explain what daddy issues are?
Are there mommy issues too?
>>52777408
>tfw i wanna get it but it's 100 fucking dollars
>>52777358
Leave it to geneticists to use "recent" and "3000 years" in the same sentence.
>>52777255
just watched San Andreas. San Andreas a fucking shit
but why Alex so hot tho wtf no Mammario gf
>>52776757
Reminder that I2 in the Balkans is mostly the result of Slavic and Germanic migrations.
>>52777464
Lets steal some organs, m8.
>>52777451
When there's a lack of a strong father figure, the female will behave irrationally and over emotionally, and in consequence seek to be dominated.
Mommy issues is when there's a lack of a mother figure, and the male will want to fuck anything that resembles his mom
>>52777464
No need, you are most probably north African like the rest of you albozerg
>>52777557
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-TD-zzBw6g
>>52777557
Ramesses, Napoleon, Hitler, I bet Alex too. Literally the haplogroup of alpha conquerors.
>>52777557
>gypsies still havent left balk
>>52777531
i'm ready tbqh
>>52777557
the butthurt is real, what happend lad, did some albanian cuck you ?
if get romagypsies leave balk forever
>>52777464
it's a waste of money for albos nigga, you're from where you're from. we're probably not tho, with slavic migrations and all
>>52777408
yep, I learned useful things about my family (haplogroup, admixture, etc.) and I found a relative in Romania.
Romania is white
>>52777708
will do, abdul
>>52776955
>Source on this please?
The presence of I2a-L621 in Romania and Bulgaria could be attributed to the migration of the ancient Dacians and Thracians, who emerged as a mixture of of indigenous peoples and Indo-Europeans (in this case, essentially R1a-Z280) sometime between 3300 and 1500 BCE. The Illyrians, who conquered the territory of former Yugoslavia circa 1200-1000 BCE, might have been an offshoot from the Dacians or the Thracians, or a closely related tribe from the Carpathian basin.
Sources are here: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml
>>52777719
yeah but my mom's family is all blue/green eyes and blond hair so i'm curious to see what other heritage i have
>>52777687
No, the kebab was kinda raw the last time. Should have came back and demanded a new one
also, the albozerg here only reproduces with albozerg
Dunno if it's always been like that
>>52777996
well people of a certain ethnicity tend to mix with people of the same ethnicity, it's just human nature tbqh
>>52777894
your pic is literally godwin's law,isnt it?
>>52778056
yeah
>>52777889
>The Illyrians, who conquered the territory of former Yugoslavia circa 1200-1000 BCE
Nigga you seriously need to read a book. You're mixing up terms, have zero archaeological knowledge and your historical range bears no more than muh daco-thraco-scytho-pleiado-hyperboreo-romano-vlacho-celtics
>>52777894
slavic bro ;)
yea I wonder how accurate that is because most of them have separate paternal/maternal and different priced packages
>>52777536
can a male have daddy issues?
>>52777996
>Dunno if it's always been like that
Of course, Allah(peace be upon him) doesn't allow mixing with kuffars.
Watch at 3:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVWAIKoatWM
Bulgarians, what happened in this place?
quick ! post golden lels, i need to shitpost and im not at home
>>52778133
Sure. Boys without a strong father figure grow up to be underachievers, introverted and isolated from most of society.
Of course this is just how i understand it. You best look up the terms in a psychological dictionary or something
>>52778150
>Watch at 3:50
what do you expect, it's albozerg after all
>>52778158
Bunch of old drunk people pretending it's a James Bond Movie
>>52778150
deutschland
ja
>>52778102
>Sources are here: http://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I2_Y-DNA.shtml
Nigga, tell this to the authors of that statement and not me.
https://books.google.md/books?id=4Nv6SPRKqs8C&hl=en
>>52778158
apparently some place in Greece that used to have Bulgarian population, and where during WWII the tsar send commies and other subversive elements to reconsider their political views
>>52777358
>>52777747
>>52777889
>moldovan haplonigger
now ive seen everything
>>52778150
based alboshits not cucked by race mixing
>>52778301
this flag should be changed to kurdistan
>>52778158
Ah the good old bulgarian gulag. We use to imprison turks,enemies of the party and people who asked too many questions here. Sadly we don't use it much these days.
>>52778351
This is belene
Why do moldovans shitpost?
>>52778372
>Being shiptari
>Looking like Refugee
Dank Illyrian meme desu lads
>>52778414
>identity crisi
>>52778413
>krystopole
>1942
>>52778414
National sport
>>52778414
To escape their shitty reality by dumping their crap on our minds
>>52778363
At least it is confirmed that I don't have a drop of Gypsy blood. Honestly, I needed the test for the medical analysis, but ancestry came with it too.
>>52778414
i think it's literally one Moldovan dude doing all the work, it's fucking amazing relaly
>>52778403
>We use to imprison turks
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belene_labour_camp
>This camp operated officially from 1949 to 1959, though a break in deportations to Belene occurred from 1954 to 1956. Between 1985 and 1989 Turks in Bulgaria who resisted the policy of changing Turkish names and surnames to Bulgarian ones, (see Assimilation Campaign in Bulgaria) were imprisoned in the prison on Belene. During those years, the Turkish Radio and Television Corporation broadcast a series named "Belene Adası" (Belene Island) on the policies of the Bulgarian government against Bulgarian Turks
Commies at least did one thing right in their time
>>52777747
But how accurate are they? And what should I understand from them? It's not like they use ancient tribes, they give percentages based on modern nationalities.
toppity kek
>>52776383
>>52778454
desu
>>52778150
>DAT GERMAN COP IN 0:25 TALKING ABOUT GASTARBEITERS
>PROBABLY WAS A GASTARBEITER TOO
>>52778546
In Sofia, the trannies are on Macedonia square near the Ministry of Agriculture, if you're interested.
http://www.vesti.bg/bulgaria/obshtestvo/noshtem-na-ploshtad-makedoniia-2802331
>>52778442
lol if there's anyone who has a HUGE identity crisis due to inferiority complexes and faked history, it's the romanians
>>52778602
later on he says he is literal turk and they film his family n shit
>>52778545
But how accurate are they?
They're pretty damn accurate. The margin for error is very low, up to ~0.3%.
>It's not like they use ancient tribes, they give percentages based on modern nationalities.
They use modern populations, but you can use the raw data and input it into calculators with various ancient tribes and populations (GEDmatch).
>>52778664
that's what I thought, aren't Moldavians simply poor Romanians?
>>52778651
I don't want to fuck trannies
>>52778442
what identity crisis bitch? i live in moldova and i consider myself moldavian
>>52778779
>>52778545
>They use modern populations, but you can use the raw data and input it into calculators with various ancient tribes and populations (GEDmatch).
So you could find the country/population that is the closest to your genetic admixture for example. This is my case. It is interesting to me because my admixture correlates with my paternal haplogroup, which is I2a1b-Dinaric.
>>52778786
That's one way to put it. But generally moldovans don't identify as romanians.
People who have historically identified as romanians were from Transylvania and Wallachia, and of course the other romanians from the balkans. The romanian language is literally the only thing that ties moldovans to the rest of the ethnicity. Whereas culturally, moldovans are an admixture of dacians, goths, celts, sarmatians, tatars and slavs.
I fully support Moldova over Romania
>>52778791
So fuck a regular whore, what's the problem.
>>52778968
> But generally moldovans don't identify as romanians
didn't*
>>52778779
>>52778953
And would you recommend 23andme or another service?
>>52778953
>I2a1b-Dinaric
Hello my Slavo-Gothic friend.
>>52778917
but you have to invent Moldovan identity in order to be one
>>52779037
It's "don't"
As long as there is an independent Moldova, the moldovan identity shall live on separately from the romanian identity.
>>52779167
kek
damn Stronghold 2 is fun as fuck, on mission 6 atm
>>52779157
what
are you retarded?
>>52779237
they fucked up with the "3D look"
Stronghold Crusader is still one of the best games imo
>>52779167
DEATH
>>52779048
23andme definitely, it provides the highest value
>>52779066
I2a1b is pre-Slavo-Gothic. I haplogroup is the only one that is native to Europe. I1 originated with the Nords, but I2 emerged with the proto-Balkan people (Thracians/Dacians).
>>52779208
ly2, Bulgarescu.
>>52779421
And is it enough providing my own sample or should I also get my parents'?
>>52779424
>Romanian-Bulgarian friendship
>Uses moldovan national costume
Is there at least one thing, the romanians don't appropriate from other culture around them for themselves and dub it "romanian" ?
>>52779515
Just like Bulgarians appropriated Macedonian national costumes, amirite?
>>52779344
yeah I have that as well, but jesus the missions get harder and harder, in all stronghold games, need to replay a few times to know what to do to not fuck up
...so we wuz Illyrians and shit?
>>52779593
UBI HRVATA DA SIPTAR NEMA BRATA
>>52778953
You're Croatian and White Croatian
God bless, my Croatian friend
>>52779593
no one wuz illyrians tb.h
just memes
>>52779635
>sucking serbia's dick
literally why?
>tfw you missed out on young love
>>52779635
wow you should try commenting on this site more often
https://www.youtube.com/
>>52779635
>>52779663
Albanians are not Illyrians though. They did definitely steal our Illyrian language
ßulg4r c1g4ny
>>52779681
He can equally dislike serbia and croatia, you know that right?
>>52779727
serbocroat sounds 10x better than whatever dribble albo was based off tho ?
>>52779472
It's enough in most cases for persons of European origins.
>>52779744
there's no middle ground in the balkans familiq
>>52779557
I don't know about any bulgaro whatchamacall it
Pointy wool hats are a moldovan thing. In the south where romanians live, they use flatcaps
>>52779744
I don't think such a person exists in Fyrom.
>>52779681
Because he is a Serbcuck. Seriously, Moldavians and Macedonians are identical in their mental illness.
>Fuck off, Bulgar Tatar. We speak Macedonian, we wuz kings n shiet. ily Serbia! Yugoslavia was great!
>Fuck off, Wallachian Gypsy. We speak Moldavian, we wuz kings n shiet. ily Russia! Soviet Union was greaet!
>>52779650
>You're Croatian and White Croatian
>God bless, my Croatian friend
I identify as a Romanian though, but at least now I know who brought the 1.7% (picture related) in my family.
>>52779775
You can simply not care and take it easy [spoiler]like me.[/spoiler]
>>52779864
>affording 100 euro internet dna tests
que??
what happening ?
it takes me literally 3 sec to load a picture, all youtube videos i can watch are with 144p and the speedtest takes 20 min to complete so i cancled it
whats happening to me ?
>>52779864
>I identify as a Romanian though
>i live in moldova and i consider myself moldavian
Are you even trying?
>>52779925
maybe it's the moldovan with the iphone kek
>>52779681
I like the chant, I've never met croats ever so nothing personal
>>52779864
>not a single drop of gypsy blood
you aint fooling no1 nigaga
>>52779800
Except that 80% of contemporary romanian literature is based on moldovan literature.
Costache Negruzzi, "Alexandru Lapusneanu", supranumit Hamlet al romaniei, a fost scrisa de un moldovan, care mai era si un anti-unionist aprig pe langa asta
Toate operele lui Creanga, lui Alecsandri, lui Eminescu, absolut totul se bazeaza pe literatura moldoveneasca de care voi ati profitat pentru a va ridica prestigiul.
Fara Moldova sunteti nimeni.
soooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
whats /balk/ doing for new year's eve?
>>52779864
Fucking Moldovan Klime
>>52780000
And now, the equivalent:
>hurr durr, Cyril and Methodius and Vasil Levski were Macedonians!
>>52780048
dancing horo at the megdan and watching the mayors fireworks
>>52780070
>implying it wouldn't be true
>>52780048
watching the fireworks and maybe portokalli
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiNNBc557OQ
post your favorite nigger
>>52780070
>levski macedonian
no one ever said that
cyril probably
>>52780070
>Cyril and Methodius were Macedonians
Modern Macedonian is the most similar language to the OCS composed by Cyrillus tho
>>52779864
You identify as Romanian yet your blood-work is very evident. You share my blood. You are my highlander kin. And the next cousin is the exact person who lives on area that was previously controlled by our predecessors. We had thriving cities in today's Rusyn areas
Come home, Croatian man
>>52779949
I'm a Moldovan citizen, but there isn't such an ethnicity. Moldovans are just a subclade of Romanians.
>>52779997
This is normal for Romanians.
>>52779925
I work abroad in bars, UK or France, during summer. I took the test there.
>>52779949
that's another moldovan
>>52780070
It's the truth. First ever international recognition was the moldovan language, the moldovan culture, the moldovan identity. The first constitutional like document that was inspired by the french revolution was a moldovan constitution.
Humanism - Neculce
Enlightenment - Cantemir
Your culture lacks any significant people that represent the larger european ideas of thought.
Without them, at least 40% of your history to date will dissapear.
>>52780224
>I work abroad in bars, UK or France, during summer. I took the test there.
interesting
>>52780178
Yeah and? They were Greek-speaking Byzantines; even their own Slavic students thought and wrote so in their teachers' biographies.
>>52780321
You imply they aren't Romanian, when you are in fact appropriating them for your glorified regional identity.
>>52780224
>I'm a Moldovan citizen, but there isn't such an ethnicity
You are fucking stupid my man. There's no need to even engage in full autism mode, but to just take a map of roman dacia and look at the territories of the future Moldova. No sign of roman occupation, and no sign of romanians there.
You have to be really deluded to claim moldovan ethnicity does not exist.
>>52780204
Will you accept a manlet though?
>>52780444
Yes. There is hope for your children. Just marry a local girl
>>52780100
>chalga intensifies
>>52780130
you watch oranges at new year's eve?
>>52780400
True to a degree. They were children of a Greek father and Slavic mother but culturally they were Greek.
>Moldovans are just a subclade of Romanians.
>SUBCLADE
now you're mixing genetics with ethnonyms
just stop
>>52780431
>No sign of roman occupation, and no sign of romanians there.
And no signs of Moldovans too.
r8 me /balk/
>>52780528
it's a tv program https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0jPu5O1mi0
>>52780444
Hourly reminder that I2 in the Balkans is mostly made of young clades and is Slavic and not Mesolithic.
>>52780558
I don't want to see your dick here, let's keep it a secret until we get together and I get to suck it
>>52780000
>muh creanga and alecsandri
you are a shitty pleb that still reads children boosk, go fuck yourself with "Amintiri din copilarie"
Marin preda, Eliade > your shit taste in literature made for dumb drunken peasants
>>52780599
aah this language tho
>>52780660
>and is Slavic and not Mesolithic.
How come it's barely present outside of the Balkan Slavs?
>>52780420
They weren't born in Romania, and that's a fact. They later became romanians after the union, sure. But they were born moldovan and were moldovan freemen.
>>52780536
Moldovans as an ethnicity started to form in the 12th century. By the 13th century, there was already the city of Moldovans which was known in foreign documents as "Civitas Moldaviensis" and after Bogdan I expanded his territories, he gave the name of the country from this city, which was later his capital.
I bet they don't teach you this shit in schools because they don't want to raise a generation of patriots. They want to brainwash you with romanian nationalism.
>>52780532
Moldovan is a subgroup of the Romanian group. But it was quite clear as I worded it previously.
>>52780660
Can you link to a study?
>>52780748
Founder effects. The filthy Slavs managed to genetically impact a handsome and awesome people as the Greeks, let alone some shithead Vlacho-Illyro-Thracians in the depopulated northern Balkans.
Why does /balk/ somehow always involves haplogroups, old maps and other shit in the thread?
lol slovenia what a shithole
>>52780800
fuck off, olteni for example are basically gypsies, i have much more in common with hohols than olteni
>>52780875
How else could we achive TRI MORETA, brat?
>>52780875
couz /balk/ is history autism incarnate, we have nothing in present so we talk about past
>>52780891
they're 1st world
>>52779731
Not bad.
>>52780775
ethniticity is made by genetics and language, which are literally the same for all romanians living to the west of the Prut, can't say the same about republica moldova since you got raped by russians a lot more
>>52780926
you in particular have nothing in the past either LOLLLLLLLL
>>52780599
Lmao. This is my favorite of them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVtUJ6avbAc
>>52779933
your toaster might be getting old
>>52780660
That theory goes: Slavic people started mixing with this proto-European group on the territory of western Ukraine and Moldova and then disseminated it here, but native research also shows Illyrians, who have conquered the area before these Slavic migrations held similar proportions of I2a and R1a present among today's Croats. Everything outside of the viewed Illyrian and Dacian circles is classified as "dissemination" from Roman Empire populations onwards
The point is, it was there, but various external conditions spread it out
>>52780875
we're worse than fucking /pol/ tbqh, by now every anon here is expert on genealogy and linguistics
even Eminescu's father was a hohol, rutean or whatever
>>52780910
With jolly cooperation with our neighbours of course.
>>52780966
Please link me to those studied Illyrian remains.
>>52780953
im 100% slav my ancestors conquered and assimilated subhuman greeks, dacians, thracians and illyrians from the balkans
>>52780957
i liked it better when agron llakaj was presenting it tbqh, but this one is pretty good kek
What do you guys think of gypsies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDz45f5zEhM
>>52781008
>Eternal backstabbing serb
>Eternal Ashkenazi greek
>Eternal Turkroach
>Eternal Brother Sasho (three times removed)
and not to forget
>Eternal Gypsy of no-achievements
>>52780989
my hdi>your hdi
>>52780932
>ethniticity is made by genetics and language
Which are all established by some arbitrary factors.
If tomorrow the republic of Moldova decided they want to be a separate ethnicity, they would have all the freedom and success to do so. But they won't because they're spineless romanian cock sucking betas
>>52780775
The name of my country comes from a dog. Don't lie to me, miticule.
Daca serios pe nimeni nu il freaca daca oul a originat inaintea gainei. Poprul roman la fel ca si orice popor european, a trait divizat pina nu a fost formata o constiinta nationala de unitate, bazata pe aceeasi limba si cultura. Francezii, nemtii si italienii au o multitudine de dialecte intortocheate ce difera semnificativ unul fata de altul. Insa ei oricum traiesc impreuna. Chiar daca am admite existenta unei limbi moldovenesti atunci ea n-ar fi fost nici intr-atit de diferita incit sa se califice ca dialect. Tu chiar te anini de orice fleac aici.
Only turbo folk, manele and chalga mastermusicrace
>>52781111
ahaha this one too
>>52781098
ITS THE /BALK/ ANTHEM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmY_MBP4KmE
>>52780900
>fuck off, olteni for example
Ai vazut vreodata olteni ca spui asta asa de increzut? Du-te pe google street view prin Oltenia si compara-le culoarea pielii.
>mfw brit trash got rekt in its own thread
>>52778670
>>52779656
>>52781109
>serbs
>backstabbing
nice try
>>52781159
>tfw you aren't Arkan, heroj srpski narod
>tfw no Ceca waifu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuD0TvDdF7o
>>52781159
Pls no, those are the most embarrassing things to come out from /balk/.
>>52780748
>those disgusting E,J,G %
Anything that has more than 10% of these and more than 2% of G is subhuman
>>52781116
>Which are all established by some arbitrary factors.
wrong
>>52781139
nu ai ce sa vorbesti cu autistul asta. daca ar fi dupa el harta europei ar arata asa
>>52777792
Cine a zis ca nu
Romanians have literally the exact number of brain-cells and golden teeth
>>52781215
chiar n-am vazut boss, da romanasii au atatea stereotipuri despre moldoveni ca si eu imi permit sa am stereotipuri despre romanasi, unul din aceste stereotipuri e ca oltenii aproape sunt tigani
>>52781251
That's what happens when you steal Macedonia, boy.
>>52781257
They can be fun
>south America
>white and """""""""""""""""""""""""germanic"""""""""""""""""""""""""
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRsR918gO_Q
>>52781001
Romanians have been assimilating Slavs since they have migrated here. South Slavs have been assimilating the proto-Balkan population when they spread there. That's why the don't look Slavic.
The identity should revolve around the culture and not genetics.
>>52781139
>The name of my country comes from a dog
You gotta be shitting me. The name comes from the river, which in turn got it's name from german settlers there. The word "Mulda" means "place of windmills" and today there's a river in Germany with the same name. -Dova is either dacian for Dava (city) or some slavic term.
>Poprul roman la fel ca si orice popor european, a trait divizat pina nu a fost formata o constiinta nationala de unitate, bazata pe aceeasi limba si cultura
Asta-i o miciuna grosolana creata de romani pentru a stabili artificial o identitate romana. Adevarul e ca nici un moldovean nu dorea unirea de la 1859, si a fost impinsa sa se uneasca cu Romania la presiunea France, Prusiei si Sardiniei, care doreau un stat tampon impotriva Rusiei.
La alegerile ad-hoc din 1857 moldovenii votasera clar impotriva unirii. Dar asta nu le-a convenit la romani, si de asta au anexat Moldova.
Sunt foarte multe detalii mici care strica toata imaginea de ansamblu a "identitatii romanesti", dar care nu se preda la scoala tocmai din motiv ca ar distruge simtul patriotic din oameni.
>>52781259
>being a Eurasian tatar
>not glorious civilized Levantine farmer
>>52781051
I paraphrase from an Albanian researcher I read a few years ago so you'd discard it anyway. It is research from a female skeleton from north Albania and several cranial remains from southwestern Albania
>>52781477
oricât ai lătra aici, nu mai poți schimba trecutul și națiunea și identitatea română este deja inchegată, ești la fel de penibil ca evreii care urlă după reparații ale holocaustului
urlă în gol aici, nimănui nu îi pasă, doar ne amuzăm de autismul tău
>>52781544
I'm genuinely interested if there has been DNA testing done on actual remains.
Now that you mention Albanian researchers, it's more likely that they came on some poor guy's skeleton and pretended to have sampled ancient DNA.
>>52781406
Ei sint un fel de rednecks ai Romaniei; cea mai rurala regiune.
>>52781477
>The word "Mulda" means "place of windmills"
We literally have one windmill and it has been broken since WWII. I prefer the dog origin of Molda-chan who chased the wisent and died.
>>52781640
It's a book about over 90 different remains from different periods. Why different periods? To measure skeletal and genetic change and link them to population migrations' narratives we have in our history books
>>52781477
>Moldova
>windmills in the fucking 12-13th century when it was just as a shithole as the other regions with people still living in mudhuts
A new level of delusion
>>52781504
>eurasian
>bad
lol fuck off afroneger
>>52781640
If you're from Thessaloniki the chance you're jewish will probably be over 80%
>>52781822
Then mention the title of the fucking book, son.
>>52781477
>Asta-i o miciuna grosolana creata de romani pentru a stabili artificial o identitate romana.
Chiar daca ar fi fost adevarat oricum deja e prea tirziu. In cel mai bun si realist caz pentru tine, Moldova ar ramine un stat independent in limitele granitei actuale, iar limba s-ar numi moldoveneasca din motive politice. Nu se apuca nimeni acum sa reinvie arhaismele slavone de dragul puritatii.
post yfw south and central Greece are almost identical to Albania while Greek Macedonia is almost identical to us and Bulgaria
>>52781630
>deja inchegata
LOL
Daca incepand de maine in scoli se va preda adevarul istoric, statul Romania cum il stim astazi s-ar prabusi in 2-3 generatii de oameni. De asta statul roman vede in independenta unei Moldove un pericol la propria sa statalitate. Pentru ca se tem ca cineva sa expuna adevarul. De asta presedintele comunitatii de moldoveni din Romania a fost ucis de SRI. Ziare si ziaristi moldoveni din Romania, redusi la tacere, pentru ca aduc in discutie un alt punct de vedere decat cel nationalist. Fara nationalism si minciuna, statul Romania se va prabusi iminent.
>>52781741
I was refering to the river Moldova.
>>52781827
That's why the technology and the settlement was founded by german colonists. Learn to read, idiot.
>>52781504
>man, all of that early farming sure takes a toll on my hands
>better put some lotion on my hands
>there, much better
>>52781630
>scrie cu diacritice
>nu respecta punctuatia
autism
>>52781907
have you been not paying attention to all the "shitpost" information we have been telling you this whole time
>>52781867
>>52781867
"Evolutionary Trends in Albanian Anthropological Material" and "Survey of anthropological features of the Illyrians"
And I have about 3 Croatian sources, in Croatian language, about excavations done in the "epicenter" , that is in areas which nowadays hold the most of "I", but it's mostly from the 80es, more focused on sizing the skeletal remains and comparing food and lifestyle to the people today
>>52781907
Obv, as it's inhabited by Bulgarians.
>>52781893
>Nu se apuca nimeni acum sa reinvie arhaismele slavone de dragul puritatii.
M-am documentat bine despre voi. Sunt oameni din republica care intr-adevar doresc sa stabileasca o identitate si limba moldovana, de a reinvia limba cea veche si a vorbi despre istoria moldovei. Dar ei spun ca sunt impiedicati de catre academicienii filoromani din structurile academice. Nimeni nu-i ia in serios si nu doresc sa le publice lucrarile istoriografice.
Pana si constitutia voastra a fost redactata de un roman, ceea ce azi provoaca asa multa agitatie si stare de neliniste. Vezi ce inseamna nationalism "rumunesc" ?
>>52781847
>implying Salonica didn't attract rural nignogs that swamped its original population and that the Jews weren't mostly exterminated by Merkelites
I have some Slavic-speaking relatives from Florina, b-batko.
>>52781911
>De asta statul roman vede in independenta unei Moldove un pericol la propria sa statalitate. Pentru ca se tem ca cineva sa expuna adevarul
care adevăr, că în spațiul carpato-danubiano-pontic a existat de la Traian până acum o populație care vorbește aceeași limbă și aceeași origine/strâmoși?
>Ziare si ziaristi moldoveni din Romania, redusi la tacere
oricât ai vrea tu să fii persecutat pentru mizerrile spuse de tine, adevărul e că NIMÂNUI nu ii pasă de gogomâniile unor autiști paranoici. Sunteți o flegmă pentru, nu s-ar obosi nici-o insitutuție să vă dea atenție
Canadian here just wondering is it true that Macedonian women take the role of the "man" while Macedonian men sit around and do nothing all day?
>tfw Greece is a shithole
>tfw Greece are shitheads
>tfw you're still the best thing the Balkans have to offer, oh god carpet bomb the region
SLAVS CONFIRMED FOR NORDICS
>
On the whole, the Slavic racial type, as exemplified by skeletal series from Poland, Germany, Bohemia, Austria, and Russia, was reasonably uniform. In view of its geographical location, the Polish group probably represents most nearly the original form, while those who expanded southward and westward absorbed local Keltic and other Indo-European-speaking populations. The Slavs, like all the other Indo-European-speaking peoples whom we have been able to trace, were originally Nordic, and there is no suggestion in their early remains, in the regions studied, of the numerically predominant brachycephalic racial increments which today are considered typically Slavic. However, the Slavs who migrated to southern Hungary, like the Germanic Gepidae before them, mixed with a local short-statured, broad-faced, and broad-nosed brachycephalic people, who, antedating the historic arrival of the Magyars, were descended from the central Asiatic Avars. Most of the Slavs retained their original dolichocephalic cranial form until at the earliest the thirteenth, and the latest the fifteenth, century. At that time, those who inhabited Russia and central Europe grew progressively brachycephalic, at a rapid but consistent rate. Well-documented series from Bohemia and the Moscow government show how this change progressed from century to century, so that normal means of 73 to 75 rose as high as 83 by the nineteenth. Few Slavs were spared this change, which was parallel to that which affected the southern Germans and other peoples of central and eastern Europe. Although it took place in the full light of late mediaeval and modern history, no one fully satisfactory explanation has vet been offered.
>>52782157
>Canadian here
stopped reading there
>>52782225
>wanting to have anything in common with cuckshed builders
>>52781907
All it really says is that Bulgarians are cucks
>>52782225
>nordics
disgusting
slavs have always been known as white as fuck people haven't you heard the phrase "bel kako rusin"
>>52782107
ești așa de prost, însăți imaginea ta rată că republica moldova e doar o măsluire creată de ruși/comuniști pentru a destabiliza romania mare
>>52782107
Serios bai, la tara nimeni nu s-a virit sa-i manipuleze pe oameni sa foloseasca anumite cuvinte de origine pur latina pe moldoveni. La tara graiul a ramas acelasi de sute de ani, iar limba romana de la tara din Moldova e identica cu cea din Moldova romaneasca. Fratii Munteanu (lol ce ironie) de la Graiesc.md pot sa-mi beleasca cariciul cu pseudo-intelectualismul lor de doi bani.
>>52782157
yup, im 23yr neet and my gf pays our rent, food, bought me new pc and pays for internet
>>52782288
>big bulgar alphas
>cucks
pick one and only one
>>52782157
They don't sit around and do nothing, most of the time they're at a corner or the local betting shop trying to get rich, takes dedication
>>52782157
strictly speaking there's no such thing as a macedonian woman or macedonian procreation, they keep themselves in business by kidnapping bulgarians and albanians and giving them ancient Slavic names like Alexander, Philip, Ptolemy, Perdikkas and feeding them a bell pepper-heavy diet
>>52782362
Mate...
>>52782303
I don't think that was brought into question at all.
Since the Slavs continued the practice of cremation well into the early centuries of the present millennium, skeletons from the period of unity are non-existent, and those from the early centuries of expansion are not abundant. However, in this instance, literary evidence antedates the osteological, for numerous descriptions of the early Slavs, assiduously collected by Niederle, occur in the writings of Byzantines, Arabs, and Persians. With only one exception, these make the Slavs tall, spare, and blond or ruddy. They were often confused with Germans, and this fact strengthens the likelihood that they were predominantly of light pigmentation.
Only one voice was raised to the contrary, that of a Jew named Ibrahim ben Yakub, who, having crossed Bohemia in 965 A.D., remarked that the Bohemians were surprisingly dark haired. Niederle interprets this solitary dissention as evidence that Ibrahim, accustomed to or expecting blond Slavs, was struck by a local enclave which differed from the Slavs as a whole. In view of the preponderance of contemporary opinion to the contrary, ben Yakub's dissention must not be given too much weight.
>>52782147
Adevarul ca Moldova si moldovenii nu au absolut nici o treaba cu mai marea etnie romana. Ca faptul ca vorbesc o limba care seamana, e o pura coincidenta si se datoreaza faptul ca romanii s-au mai scurs un pic peste carpati in Moldova. Toate sarbatorile si traditiile sunt comun crestine, si sunt impartasite si de alte popoare.
>NIMÂNUI nu ii pasă
In afara de SRI si de guvernul roman, desigur.
>>52782308
M-am trezit acum cu un rumun sa-mi spuna mie ca Ion Pelivan, Pan Halippa, si intreg sfatul tarii e o creatie ruseasca menita sa destabilizeze romania mare.
Ce vremuri traim..
>>52782308
coae, te rog eu, daca tot esti asa de pedant si scrii cu diactrice pe un forum moldovenesc de bauturi alcoolice, atunci fii pedant pana la capat si pune punct la sfarsitul propozitiei si incepe cu majuscula propozitiile noi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9sQZLtsfp8
bulgaria's greatest export?
>>52782362
>>52782386
Wow this is very different from Albanians who all work hard and succeed, how very interesting.
>>52782392
Oh wow so Macedonians don't really have a heritage- they are a mix of stolen balkan people?
>had to go to a hospital today
>sit around for 1-2 hours waiting
>shitload of happy kids come in with young parents
>all of them macedonian
there's hope for this country
>>52782225
What the heck is Nordic supposed to be? German, Scandis? Even Poles who border them look distinctively different.
>>52782521
mixing and stealing is part of the balkan heritage
>>52782355
>La tara graiul a ramas acelasi de sute de ani, iar limba romana de la tara din Moldova e identica cu cea din Moldova romaneasca.
Asta datorita 20 de ani de ocupatie romaneasca si de efortul ministerului de colonizare a Basarabiei
Pariu ca nu stiai asta eh? Ca voi erati, in ochii romanilor din bucuresti, o provincie locuita de suboameni care trebuie colonizati
O fi pseudo-intelectuali fratii munteanu sau nu, site-ul lor mi-au deschis drumul catre adevar. And the rabbit hole goes deeper than you think.
>>52782503
without a doubt gay men
Why are bulgars so unbelievably gay? Did the Turks do something to them?
>>52782427
>Ca faptul ca vorbesc o limba care seamana, e o pura coincidenta
limba este și a fost practic identică
>e o pura coincidenta
ce prost ești
>>52782521
kidney trading is lucrative business
>>52782604
This is a blatant lie from Serbs during the Kosovo wars
>>52782521
Macedonians are essentially Greeks who went under the process of slavicisation by Serbs and Bulgarians. That's all there is to it. They are slavic now only by name and language but I'm pretty sure their heritege is just as Hellenic as those who speak Greek language right now. I mean, look at the average Macedonian and average Greek. There's little to no differance between them in that area of the country, at least. Their only differance is the language.
>>52782198
the reality is that we re not a shithole despite the problems and this attitude that you express just right now is not going to help move on and overcome the crisis.
>>52782631
https://thebloodyellowhouse.wordpress.com/
>>52782642
>There's little to no differance between them in that area of the country, at least. Their only differance is the language.
except that we are not brown manlets
>>52782591
>limba fost practic identică
Arata-mi doua documente in limba romana, una din Valahia si alta din Moldova ca sa vad ca erau la fel.
>>52782550
>What the heck is Nordic supposed to be?
>The Nordic race was one of the putative sub-races into which some late 19th to mid 20th century anthropologists divided the Caucasian race. People of the Nordic type were described as having light-coloured hair, light-coloured eyes, fair skin, long and narrow skulls and tall stature and were considered to predominate in the countries of Northern Europe.
German refers to an ethnicity, Scandis to a group of related ethnicities, the first of which are of mixed Nordic, Alpine and traces of Dinaric and Mediterranean race while the latter are primarily of Nordic origin.
>>52782642
were whiter than greeks tho...
>>52782642
Only until larissa
>>52782484
O să îți ofer un pro-tip, coae, dacă apeși tasta windows (cea din stâga butonului ALT stâng) în același timp cu spacebar, poți schimba foarte ușor între diferite limbi la tastatură, eventual seteazăți să ai și româna dacă nu ai deja
>>52782642
>implying Greeks lived there
Thraco-Illyrians and Latinized variants senpai
>>52782642
Greeks just seem to have more carpet on their back
still more prestigious than a macedonian though
>>52782665
lose the attitude before you lose some teeth, buddy. i'm not one to take such demands lightly
>>52782573
albanians big-ass faggots and the greatest pro-gays on the balkans after Croatia
hello
The autism with race/genes is one of the most retarded things to come out of 4chan. If your skin is white, you're white. If it isn't you're another race. Simple as that.
>>52782740
>le illyrians meme
fuck off alboshit, only "illyrians" on the balkans are bosnians
>>52782642
woah, rude?
I don't want to be a denbt slave.
>>52782777
There was a time before Slavshits you know
>>52782695
>>52782720
skopjshits are actually shorter than greeks on average and barely differ skin-wise but the delusion is always strong on /int/
>>52782772
right on genius, its not about color otherwise east asians or mullatos would be considered white. i can instantly tell when someone has semitic or native american heritage by their facial structure
>>52782706
Arată-mi tu două documente care să arate că se vorbeau limbi diferite.
Nu poți, pentru că ești prost și nu ai dovezi, și nici nu ai pregătire academică, nu ai studiat tu însuși documente dar vorbești doar din ce zic alții
ești patologic de paranoic,auzi la el, începe cu SRI și cu persecutări, o să ajungi la Spitalul 9 în curând, bre.
>>52782772
>If your skin is white, you're white.
Not so fast Ibrahim.
Then again, if we are speaking in real terms only in Macedonia around 45% of the population would have to be wiped out. And that only of ethnic Macedonians, Albos not included.
>>52782824
fuck off cunt there were no illyri-shits here, like I said the only place where some of their genes ended up is Bosnia
>>52782740
I passed near his fortress today kek we're building new 2015 neo-classicals in front of a 6th century fort
>>52782567
MCM, te rog, e destul autism pentru o zi.
>Asta datorita 20 de ani de ocupatie romaneasca si de efortul ministerului de colonizare a Basarabiei
Tu iti dai seama ce prostii vorbesti? Daca 20 de ani de ocupatie romaneasca avea sa ne schimbe limba atunci peste 100 de ani de ocupatie ruseasca trebuiau sa rezulte intr-un popor care se indentifica unul ca unul ca rusi si vorbesc doar ruseste. Ca n-au fost romanii niciodata mai punctuali decit rusii, mai ales cei de pe timpul URSS-ului.
>>52782766
>pro-gay
Only in title, to impress gullible Westerners
Top Bulgarian popstar is literally a 40 year old gay man who wears heels and has a hair timeline more extravagant then the biggest of trannies
When I see a Bulgar I have to make an effort to shield my penis from him
>>52782777
No, Albanians are Illyrian as well
>>52782769
Hello. Is it kot time?
>>52782853
Burden of proof lies on the one who makes the claim.
Eu am documente medievale in moldoveana. Daca poti sa-mi arati un alt document din Valahia din aceeasi perioada, atunci o sa ma convingi.
>>52782874
>mfw your capital was literally a Dardanian town
>>52782926
>dardarian
fuck off with that autism, scupi was a roman settlement and it was extremely multicultural, there were traders from syria n shit even passing through back then
>>52782911
no only bosnians, western serbs and croats
look at a fucking map of their shithole tribes location
>>52782911
He's not a Bulgar, he's a gypsy
And my point still stands about Albania's pro-gayness
>>52782832
I'm sticking to Europe. Asians can differ a lot.
>>52782871
>around 45% of the population would have to be wiped out
This is the kind of autism I am talking about.
>>52782926
It was also capital where Tsar Dushan was crowned. Like, I wassaying, only reasons modern age Macedonians are speaking slavic language is because they were under Serbian and Bulgarian rule for such a long time. It's actually the most logical explaination UNLESS someone wants to debate that Slavshits exsisted here for a much longer time.
>>52782923
>Eu am documente medievale in moldoveana.
AI o pulă de documente la tine, doar niște mizerii salvate de pe google cu rezoluție de doi bani. Cheamă-mă c\nd ai studiat arhiva documentelor din acea perioadă din Muntenia, Transilvania și Moldova.
Nu poți pentru că eși un ratat dără educație oricum
>Burden of proof lies on the one who makes the claim.
the burden of proof lies on the one who makes the more stupid claim
>>52782990
They have rights, but no one really likes them tbhh.
WHAT DID ILLYRIANS EVER FUCKING DO
WHERE IS THE ILLYRIAN EMPIRE, 1ST SECOND THIRD
THEIR POETRY, KINGS, BATTLES WITH OTHER TRIBES, BUILDING LEFTOVERS, ART, CUSTOMS????????????????????????????
MEANWHILE EVERYONE WANTS TO BE ILLYRIAN
>>52783030
>This is the kind of autism I am talking about.
That's not autism, it's the preservation and saving the blood from further degenerate influences.
>>52783081
I don't understand how Illyrians are even relevant on Balkans since 2nd century AD.
>>52783081
>THEIR POETRY, KINGS, BATTLES WITH OTHER TRIBES, BUILDING LEFTOVERS, ART, CUSTOMS
There is a lot of that tbhh, but let's get over it.
>>52782990
Like I said, in name =/= pro-gay
like >>52783073 said
>>52782981
>no only bosnians, western serbs and croats
lol no
>>52782874
No offense, senpai, it's simply the truth. Everywhere except Bitola (Pelagonia) was Thracian-Illyrian, which then became partially Latinized (not Hellenized) like Justinian, then some Gothic and Tatar raids, then Slavic invasions.
>>52782910
Rusii niciodata nu au pretins ca moldovanii sa vorbeasca ruseste. In afara de niste scurte perioade din epoca tarismului, care si ele au fost intampinate de rezistenta intelectualilor. Dar in schimb, cum ati ajuns in granitele romaniei, limba voastra a inceput a suferi mutatii fortate. Citeste articolul asta sa te convingi.
Iar in URSS in general v-au dat voie, si v-au incurajat sa va numiti limba cum doriti si sa promovati cultura moldoveana. In Romania esti acuzat de anti-patriotism daca faci asa ceva.
>>52783081
I don't want to be illyrian they were subhumans who got stomped by romans then slavs
simply obedient subhuman cocksuckers
>>52783081
>WHAT DID ILLYRIANS EVER FUCKING DO
they were white native europeans
>>52782772
The reason this is an eternally heating debate on 4chan is exactly because of your sentence:
>If your skin is white, you're white
Which is pseudo science. American, turn of the century pseudoscience. If people were taught correctly, about the Caucasian race and its subtypes and their features, the Negroid race and their subtypes and their features, and the Mongoloid race and their subtypes and their features (these names sound outdated because they are outdated. This discipline never gained proper foothold anywhere because of the great wars and subsequent stigmatization). It could have developed into a marvelous discipline, perhaps even unearthing specific populations carrying certain positive and bad markers. It would have definitely improved anthropology tenfold. Instead, Europeans decided to "JUST" themselves and made a taboo about everything anthropological except folklore dress "research" and recording reed clapping, bush dancing tribes from the Amazon
There are no "white", "brown", "red", "purple" and "black" people, unless we're on a native Indians level of explaining our history. "There was a Giant Black Man, he was brought by Wise White Man, to work Seven Valleys of The Prairie"
>>52783057
Welelele
>>52783163
nice bullshit, fuck off with ur illyrian shit
>>52783081
Those things you mentioned exist.
But it is not common because their culture and identity got wiped out.
Also they were White native Europeans unlike you
macedonian jealous of lack of ancient balkan heritage hahahah what a plumfuck
>>52783163
you spend too much time on youtube
>tfw slavs raped and killed most of the illyrishits in the north
feels good фaмc
>>52783294
WERE
>>52783251
That's not the problem.
The problem is that it is the most southern flank of it. As you can see on pic related which diasporazerg "conveniently" cut out.
>>52783081
When someone here makes an appeal towards Illyrians, I seriously hope they don't do it to appeal to a higher civilization. Illyrians were a bunch of terrain hardened goatfuckers who left us their bones and jewelry and perhaps some modified Greek helmet and/or modified Roman sword. They were warriors, good mercenaries in Roman and Greek armies, but they did not achieve anything, as opposed to their neighbours. Even Thracians had some semblance of centralizations. When I appeal to Illyrians, I just do it for demographic continuity, knowing that people are related to mountain goat fuckers who were squished between two great civilizations and many great polities yet achieved nothing but a Greco-Roman hybrid pantheon, shitty fortifications and bad irrigation systems, that Romans literally learned that they can't bear Illyrians in chest to chest battle, but can go near their cities and clog the irrigation to starve and dehydrate the population
>>52783387
fun fact south albania used to be populated by christian slavs before albozergs spawned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kutmichevitsa
>>52783036
"Under serbian and bulgarian rule". But we were bulgarian as fuck. There was no other nationality. I don't think we're some random slavs who got conquered by everyone and switched nationalities constantly until the 19th century.
>>52782921
is kot time
>>52783174
>Rusii niciodata nu au pretins ca moldovanii sa vorbeasca ruseste.
Bai, baaaao, ti-as fute una fix in cea mai neagra masea daca ai fi fost in fata mea. Pe timpul rusilor, in pula mea, educatia se efectua doar in limba rusa, iar rata de frecventare a scolii se apropia de 100%. Limba rusa era promovata intens, bagata pe git chiar, ca si principalul mijloc de comunicatie interetnica. Toata media si informatia era prezentata in rusa. Rusii nu se amesteca blea, iaca ai un exemplu de un mini URSS in Transnistria. Vrei sa-ti stringem pentru o calatori in Transnistria, dar cu conditia ca sa vorbesti doar "moldoveneste" cu populatia locala? Dupa asta iti vom numara dintii.
>>52783336
Nothing I said was controversial
>>52783387
>conveniently
I would post a complete map if I could find one. That map doesn't even show the Fyromanian tribes.
>>52783444
you're right, you switched nationalities constantly until the 20th century :^)
>>52783439
also kek
>>52783121
Somebody needs to get the little makedonskis stop browsing /pol/
>>52783207
Too long m8. What I don't understand is how insecure everyone is here.
>>52783485
ready for new year?
>>52783439
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHHAHA
>he really believes this
go pick berries lmao
>>52783504
like I said there were no illyrishit tribes here u autist
>>52783444
I say this because part of Serbs have Bulgarian origin and I'm sure it's true for some Bulgarian people to have ours. We're quite mixed in parts where our 3 countries border. I mean, I understand you guys quite clearly for example but I'm having hard times understanding Bulgarians sometimes. It's just the language differances brah.
>>52783419
ALBOS ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>52783547
not yet
are you?
>>52783542
It's worth a read
>>52783548
>believes this
it's fact you autismlord
educate yourself and actually read the page
>>52783564
the Dardanians were Illyro-Thracians, looking more Illyrian to the west, more Thracian to the east. and the Paionians were...I dunno, something in between, bra
>>52783593
eh..its not like it used to be before
>>52783564
The point was that there were no Hellenes in the majority of your clay like the Serb suggested, nor Hellenized peoples, but Thracians and Illyrians.
>>52783564
Albanians also descend from Pelasgians
What ancient balkan dna do Maqepoopskis have?
- barbarian slav
- turk
- touch of greek
- orc
Only Greek is balkan, and you have very little of that
>>52783492
Pe langa limba cea regionala, moldoveneasca, functiona in paralel cu rusa. care era limba de functionare a organelor de conducere, clar.
>Limba rusa era promovata intens, bagata pe git chiar, ca si principalul mijloc de comunicatie interetnica. Toata media si informatia era prezentata in rusa.
Pe vremea cand eram copil, tin minte ca tata putea sa conecteze televizorul nostru la posturi moldovenesti. Si din cate tin minte, parca in romana erau reportajele.
>>52783676
Hey toniblerim
Jesus or Mohammed?
>>52783641
it is for me
im just drinking till the new year arrives
then comes more drinking
all alone ofcourse
>>52783676
>wanting to be balkan subhuman
lel the slavs came to this region and destroyed any of your subhuman goatfucking tribes in 50 years
im proud of not having "balkan dna"
>>52783676
>Albanians also descend from Pelasgians
i can feel the autism rising
>>52783419
Stop posting none sense like this you partly descend from Illyrians delete this right now
>>52783439
Might explain my extremely Slavic last name, since I'm from there.
>>52783695
>Pe vremea cand eram copil, tin minte ca tata putea sa conecteze televizorul nostru la posturi moldovenesti.
Pai prin anul 2005 posturile moldovenesti erau deja in romana.
>Si din cate tin minte, parca in romana erau reportajele.
Parca noi vorbim moldoveneste in Moldova? Imi pare ca trebuie sa pleci la culcare.
>>52783742
FUCK-OFF DIASPORA REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>52783711
>all alone ofcourse
As of now the same stands for me. But without the drinking part.
>>52783767
nice come home real human
>>52783651
eh, if what you're saying is true
i still see no probelm with this; either way these people underwent process of slavinization, now process can either be voluntary or applied through varying degrees of pressurs... I mean you can say the same for some slavic people in origin like serbs/montenigrins living in the place around Shkodër getting Albanized. Some Albanians in Kosovo turned into Serbians due to being of same faith (Orhtodox).
These kinds of things happen m8, we're all quite mix here in balkans :)
>>52783731
Pelasgians best meme
>>52783419
Someone screencap this
>>52783702
Excuse me ?
>>52783716
>another subhuman barbarian people destroying another slightly more advanced barbarians
Wow great "heritage" you got there
you are not even ancient
>>52783419
I honestly have no high expectations of them or any other medieval people. Maybe they had some smart heads but 98% of medieval people were as you said.
>>52783799
it used to be without drinking for me
but I figured I might as well do so because i have nothing else
which is perfectly fine with me
im not unhappy
>>52783825
>Titiy
eheheh
>>52783792
Eu ma refeream la anii inainte de independenta. Pe la sfarsitul anilor 80 cam asa.
>Parca noi vorbim moldoveneste in Moldova?
Ar fi timpul.
De altfel o sa ajungeti ca noi. Cea mai saraca provincie din Romania. Si exploatati ca pe niste robi de catre bucuresti
>>52783838
if they were slightly more advanced they wouldn't have gotten destroyed lol?
slavs not only conquered half of europe and at one point controlled one third of the world, but also created hundreds of inventors, some of their inventions include the periodic table, electricity and the first man into space
what did supposed descendants from ancient balkan tribes do during this time?
fuck goats.
>>52782760
is that a threat?
MAKE NEW THREAD WITH NO ANIME
>>52783863
>im not unhappy
Well that is what is most important, isn't it?
>>52783716
>im proud of not having "balkan dna"
I bet you have at least four times as much Balkan DNA than Slav DNA. I've seen enough reports of admixture tests from Macedonians to state that this is relatively accurate.
>>52783912
those were the real slavs m8 you're just a shitskin greco-illyronigger
>>52783946
Just saw that movie, was expecting more tbqh
Riza Memedovski, chairman of a Muslim organisation for Macedonian Muslims in the Republic of Macedonia, accused the majority Albanian political party, the Party for Democratic Prosperity, of trying to assimilate people, specially Macedonian Muslims and Turks and create an "... Albanisation of western Macedonia."
>Riza Memedovski
>Memedovski
ayy
>>52783960
I'll take a genetic test in a few years probably to prove my slav genes tb.h
>>52784017
am not
>>52783793
I will stay forever and there is nothing you can do about it
>>52783912
There are other factors besides technology
like numbers, how many enemies you have, etc.
>slavs not only conquered half of europe and at one point controlled one third of the world, but also created hundreds of inventors, some of their inventions include the periodic table, electricity and the first man into space
>slavs
But not YOU or descendants of balkan slavs, fucking kek.
You only have Nikola Tesla and he was Croatian (based Illyrian)
>>52784030
It's true. There's probably 50k-80k Macedonian muslims who declare themselves as "Albanian" but literally have surnames like "Selimovski".
>>52784061
I'm tempted to get a test myself.
>tfw probably a tatar
>>52783807
>mfw my last name is in every slavic country
>>52783955
indeed
kot gives me strength as well
>>52784030
THE MUSLIM MACEDONIANS ARE GOING UP AGAINST THE ALBOS.........WHILE THE REAL MAKETA ARE DOING NOTHING
>YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP FAMILIQ
>>52784090
This is only the beginning
Inshallah with the power of Allah and the way of Muhammad pbuh (peace be upon him) Macedonskis everywhere will turn to Islam and their girls adopt the hijab.
>>52784086
pretty autistic tb.h
but irrelevant as croats are slavs too
reminder that we raped your balkanshit ancestors and today every white man in albania is slav descendant that's why you aren't cannibals but able to use computers to a degree
>>52783742
Even the so called "kingdoms" on territories which Illyrians inhabited is some cry of special snowflakery. Down south, like Dardania, they were almost completely Greek in administration and culture. They economically depended on the Greeks. In the north, from the Histri to Dalmati, they were quickly Romanized. These people, apparently present from the 8th century B.C well into 2nd century A.D left us fucking trinkets of their "mighty" civilization. Croatian anthropologists and archaeologists still unearth fucking beads and stringed pearls
Behold, mighty Illyrian fortification
>>52784061
>I'll take a genetic test in a few years probably to prove my slav genes tb.h
You would be an outlier for Macedonians if this happens to be correct tb.h
>>52783897
>Cea mai saraca provincie din Romania.
Nu votati cu incompetentii de stinga. Insa R. Moldova a ajuns saraca si fara aportul Bucurestiului. Nu-ti fa grija, majoritatea oamenilor de aici nu-si doresc unirea, inclusiv si eu care nu accept ca moldovenii au o identitate diferita fata de romani. Noi trebuie sa raminem al doilea stat romanesc si sa ne vedem de dezvoltarea tarii noastre. Sintem destul de mici si e fezabil sa ne dezvoltam mai rapid decit Romania daca vom elimina coruptia institutionala.
noapte buna
>>52784179
Holy fuck this guy
