When are we going to kick the Turkey of the islamist Erdogan out of NATO?
I don't want to enter into war against Russia because Turkey is in the same alliance as us.
>>51651984
why is our borders so fucked up?
>>51651984
NATO is literally an alliance against Russia and France is currently using Turkish airbases to bomb ISIS.
Fucking hypocritical French niggers.
>>51652123
Drop islam.
>>51652190
I want Erdogan to die a painful death but the reason is not because he is an Islamist. Erdogan is Turkey's Putin, authoritarian demagogue that uses religion to gather votes, he is a dangerous populist with a conservative voter base, so of course he pretends to be islamist. He is not the "new caliphate gas the kurds religious war now" western media paints him to be.
>>51651984
Mayve i am whong nut before Sarcozy your state was no in NATO?
Thanks for based de Gauule.
>>51652552
*whrong but before
>>51652022
What do they teach you in history class?
>>51651984
>le erdogan is islamist meme
name me one islamic thing he enforced in last 13 years of his reign.
>>51652022
Why the hell you made a cunt in mideast?
>>51652636
you see these borders you fatass? these should be solid
>>51652552
You are right. The Jew Sarkozy is an arsehole. He completely submitted France to the USA.
We want control of the Bosporus.
Dem strategic waterways.
>>51651984
Turkey is a shit country, full of shit people.
We can all agree
BUT
Greece, Bulgaria, and most of the Balkans are just as shitty
Why not create nice beach starting from slovenia, Hungary, Ukraine, and Moldovia and leave just some ocean?
Would help with the "rising sea levels"
Erodogan is the best thing that happened to Turkey in ages:
>>51651984
Russia invaded Turkish air space. Russia also shoots any foreign planes down like that, doesn't it?
>>51651984
> Russia provokes your ally
> Ally responds
> "Let's drop this ally, I don't want a a war over this"
Remember 1938, 1939 and 1945, France? You don't do that shit. Alliances are meant to be respected for a reason.
>>51652705
My apologies, chosen one. I thought you were referring collectively to your state's borders in your comment. Thank you for clarifying.
>>51652796
French are fags you should have understand it
>>51652796
Still, it's pushed through by Russian logic.
>>51652796
Fuck off ahmed, those cases are totally incomparable, france wasn't the aggressor
>>51652442
I agree with that guy.Also ecevit and tansu çiller was better desu
>>51652796
>britshit talking about alliance respect
>>51652954
In Turkey case Russia was the one provoked
>>51651984
There is no room for radical islamic states and their enablers in NATO. Turkey needs to go.
>>51652886
France was a superpower with nukes and its own opinions.
>>51652954
Are you implying that Turkey, protecting its borders based on public statements it has made, is the aggressor somehow?
Russians have been aggressively making incursions in European nations airspace in order to gather data on response rates and ability. Not acting would have a more severe implication than action. We are not pushovers.
>>51653027
Britain has been pretty good in NATO in going with the Alliance's interest except in maybe Suez Crisis.
>>51653067
Are you implying that Turkey didnt shoot down the Su-24 in Syrian air-space to protect Turkmen ISIS enablers?
>>51651984
>I don't want to enter into war against Russia because Turkey is in the same alliance as us.
France is the chicken once again.
>>51652793
>invaded Turkish airspace.
You mean crossed it for 17 seconds with no hostile intentions towards Turkey?
>Russia also shoots any foreign planes down like that, doesn't it?
Yeah, really?
You know that period in history that called ''cold war". Like when there was standoff between US and Russia with nukes. And nothing happened. But there were couple of very close incidents, but our coutries were smart enough to not start it.
I know that majority of posters on this bord are too stupid and childish but damn, when leader of NATO country do a things like this...
>>51653171
In this case, Turkey is the chicken.
>>51653067
>>51653155
>bong arguing for steadfast defense of our allies
>burger arguing for appeasement
The late 30s called, they want their geopolitical landscape back.
>>51653171
kek do you actually believe we'd risk a nuclear war over turkey's ass or even over yours?
both of you are worthless
>>51653067
Uhh yeah I am, because every modern country on Earth escorts violating jets out, especially if they only entered airspace for 10 seconds
We're not going to die to protect your mudslime brothers ahmed, seriously
>>51653155
Yes, I am implying that Turkey acted on Russian incursion to Turkish airspace and then shot down the plane just like it would have shot down any other non-friendly plane not responding to messages.
It hardly matters what the plane was doing. And Turkmens in the area are part of Free Syrian Army. You know, the same faction you support in the war.
>>51653155
lol. why do we do that? they violated our airspace over 900 times. we issued warning over and over again. we even shot down their drone to show them how serious we are. but their bydlo jets never stop unless you shot them down.
>>51653251
You'd better surrender already, Pierre!
>>51653295
honhonhon
I rest my pledge
>>51653205
Is Russia the egg and if so, who came first?
>>51653272
Turkey doesn't do that in Syrian border though for obvious security reasons. They've shot down a few a few Syrian planes/helicopters as well. I don't get the big issue here.
>>51653155
That's factually wrong. It also wasn't the first time Russians was in our airspace. They got warned by Turkey, the Russian ambassador was called by Turkey and requested they don't do it, even the whole of NATO warned Russia to stay out, because since 2012 the army has changed its rules of engagement regarding planes in Syrian airspace, as Syria shot down a Turkish jet
Here, 2 months ago a Russian jet was escorted out.
http://www.ibtimes.com/turkish-f-16-jets-intercept-russian-air-force-plane-inside-turkeys-air-space-2126779
>>51653188
Anyways, shooting a plane down is right for Russia. It can't be helped.
>>51653382
Dang. Turkey's looking pretty right here. Who actually likes Russia anyway (besides Belarus)?
>>51653188
>You mean crossed it for 17 seconds with no hostile intentions towards Turkey?
It wasn't the first time Ivan, let's not pretend it was.
Russia was warned before:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/turkey-warns-russia-over-airspace-violations-as-syria-airstrikes-widen/2015/10/05/19d2e7b0-6b47-11e5-b31c-d80d62b53e28_story.html
>>51653382
>muh rules of engagement
Follow the actual international/NATO law you Arab.
You always do this.
>akshully according to our definition of genocide the Armenian Genocide wasn't genocide
>akshully according to our territorial definitions all of Syria and the Aegean belongs to Turkey so we didn't violate anyone's territory
>>51653497
>Follow the actual international/NATO law you Arab.
Turkish RoE is approved by NATO. Turkey has escorted a Russian jet out before. That wasn't the first time Russia was in Turkish airspace.
Your memes are unrelated, also Turkish airplane got shot down in Syria, that's exactly why RoE was changed regarding planes from Syria.
>>51653497
no sweden there is no black dick in this thread
>>51653488
Pretty funny that the place where they got warned before is the same spot a jet got shot down
>>51653382
Those cases were in news even in finland, so it wasn't a suprise to anyone except russians
>>51653488
So? There are rules to intercept planes for white people countries.
Guess cockroaces have their own rules.
>>51653804
We all make it up as we go, no?
>>51653804
You are outside of NATO alliance, if you get warned for literally 2 months to stay out, you stay out.
>>51653804
>Transponder off
>$10 walmart GPS
>Radio off
>No flags on plane
>Nothing you can identify yourself with
>Syrian army flies the same jet
>Warned 10 times before being shot
Are you honestly to say, surprised?
>>51652954
>Dickriding Putin this hard
Turks slavs both subhumans but atleast the cockroaches have balls to act
>>51653918
Yeah i was actually suprised when i saw the news that day.
>>51654007
You are confusing having balls with being being stupid.
>>51654007
rude desu
>>51654213
Being stupid is what we do, constantly let Russia "get lost" and having to escort them back out of our airspace
since the shooting fown not a single time has Russia harassed Turkey again, this is how it's done.
>>51652793
Wasn't the plane in Syrian territory when it got shot down?
>>51653324
me, inside your mum desu lad
>>51653320
You shouldn't let your white flag rest though ,those things were meant to be heavily used by french hands :D
>>51654730
No, the missile was fired in Turkey but the plane crashed in Syria.
Parts of the plane have been found in Turkey
>>51654788
non-biased source?
>>51654056
Well it doesn't happen often that someone slaps the big mighty bear.
As much as you love Putin's cock, try to look behind his balls to see what actually might be the most logical reason it got shot down.
>>51655036
I don't have one, but if Erdogan claims there are really parts of the plane, they should also be able to deliver it if the NATO / Russia asks for it.
Experts can tell whether it was of the crashed plane or not.
if they can't deliver, you know Turkey is lying.
So far nobody asked to see the parts
Its said that this gas line will supply EU with gas, and reduce its gas dependency from Russia. Just saying.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Anatolian_gas_pipeline
>>51652796
this
>>51653219
Im no ally of radical Islam.
>>51655269
i really like the part where pipelines go around armenia
>>51655320
You're an ally of the enemy
>>51653290
I dont support the "Free" "Syrian" "Army" maybe my government unfortunately does but that's why Im voting for Trump.
>>51651984
Can we kick Turkey out but still go to war with Russia?
Please?
>>51655367
Are you even white?
>>51652796
What if it was your ally that provoked Russia?
>>51655181
I don't love anybody cock. Putin is the same shit as Erdogan.
And you are biased.
>>51652653
hijabs in uni.
>>51655582
So close.
>>51655461
Yes unlike you, mongoloid Russian shill
>>51655269
No wonder russia tries to control georgia. Wars after 1960s have all been about oil and gas.
>>51655699
Butthurt is strong in this one.
>>51655269
Do Georgians love muslims?
>>51655648
he didn't enforce anything. he gave freedoms to hijabis and that's all.
islamist countries don't have nude beaches. alcohol consumption rapidly increased during his rule btw.
>>51655904
>alcohol consumption rapidly increased during his rule btw.
Probably due to mass depression from the rise of Islamism.
>>51655860
Of course not. Muslims don't love muslims. They are forced to get along with us, because of the oil and gas, as they can't get any from Russia.
>>51655648
>freedom is bad
Damn christfags, you are no better than Muslims.
>>51656030
>implying I'm a christfag
I meant European white, not Turkish or Arab "white".
>>51651984
N.A.T.O. should have been dissolved when the USSR dissolved TßH
