AMD RX 480 launch summary, thread #4
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Performance summary:
1- Tom's put this card as below the GTX 970 and R9 390, but not by much.
2- TechPowerUp, Anandtech, PC Perspective, Hexus, HardwareCanucks, and KitGuru put the card at slightly above the GTX 970 and R9 390.
3- LegitReviews, GamerNexus and HardOCP puts the card on par with the GTX 970 and R9 390.
Details:
1- All reviews mention that the cards does considerably better on DX12, where it can beat the GTX 980
2- The reviews praise the card's overall power consumption, but some note that it exceeds the standard power limits (86W from PCIe, instead of 75W)
3- Most lament the temps of the reference cooler.
4- Most of the reviews note that the reference cooler does well on the noise. As good as nVidia's reference cards? No, but this is something to note, considering the horrible reference jet engines of AMD's 290/290X cards.
5- Overclocking results are mixed, some reviewers getting up to 10% OC, and some barely 2%.
Overall:
A good launch for AMD. The card is slightly above the GTX 970/R9 390, and cheaper. Once non-reference versions are out, with better temps, this should be a great purchase. If you already have a GTX 970/R9 390, this card will do nothing for you.
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>>55321115
The sources:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480/
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/RX_480_CrossFire/
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10446/the-amd-radeon-rx-480-preview
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amd-radeon-rx-480-polaris-10,4616.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/93932-amd-radeon-rx-480-14nm-polaris/
http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/7756/amd-radeon-rx-480-video-card-review-starting-rebellion-199/index.html
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/72889-radeon-rx480-8gb-performance-review-17.html
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/amd-radeon-rx-480-8gb-review/
http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2496-amd-rx-480-8gb-review-and-benchmark-vs-gtx-970-1070
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Review-Polaris-Promise
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/06/29/amd_radeon_rx_480_video_card_review
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-06/radeon-rx-480-test/
FAQ:
>When will we get non-reference cards?
Typically, within a couple of months of launch.
>Buy this, or buy a GTX 970/R9 390?
The RX 480 is slightly better, for slightly cheaper, so go for it instead. If you absolutely need a card RIGHT NOW and cannot wait for it to be in stock, then you do not lose much by getting a GTX 970/R9 390.
>I was expecting it to beat GTX Titan X SLI! This SUCKS!
This is a $200 card. It beats older $200 cards, and is on par with older $330 cards.
>[company x] BTFO! Fanboys on suicide watch! lel, kek, and kys!
We can do that, but it is a waste of your time and energy. We can talk about the new card instead.
(2/2)
Lifelong AMD fan here... put me on SUICIDE WATCH because I got BTFO
NEW DRIVER IS NOW OUT
HOW DID IT DO?
Reminder that Kyle was right about everything.
>>55321193
Link?
>>55321161
>updating drivers on day of release
don't be stupid
fuck i really didnt wanna give those nvidia jews money
will still wait to see how the custom coolers do but im not expecting much
1070 here i come
NVIDIA is literally finished.
Praise AMD!
>>55321148
At least you could actually try when you false flag n/v/idiot...
SOLD OUT!!!
>>55321203
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility#.V3P9yZMrLX8
@55321193
kys razor1
Will the new overclock tool work with other AMD cards?
http://oc.jagatreview.com/2016/06/teaser-overclocking-amd-radeon-rx480-ke-1-4ghz-dengan-cooler-3rd-party/
mad Thai cunts reached 1.42ghz with a nigger rigged cooler
>>55321231
>vr ready
>worse than the gtx 970
L M A O
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>The RX 480 isn't too impressive when looking at power consumption either, running ~50 or so watts less than the R9 390, which is a power hungry graphics card to begin with. >The RX 480 consumed the same amount of power as the GTX 1070, while providing considerably less performance. The card doesn't run cool either, hitting over 80 degrees in a short period, though granted the reference cooler is small and likely to be improved upon by board partners. >Overclocking headroom is Fury X-like, though I'm not willing to call the RX 480 out on this just yet until we see results from more cards and some with upgraded cooling.
Tfw it's actually really shit. How anyone can defend this is beyond me. Not even the pricing saves it.
>GTX 1070
>$380
>Nvidia shows everyone how capable the new architecture is, Titan X/980 Ti-esque performance for such a low price and can back it up with benchmarks
>RX 480 8 GB
>$240
>promises GTX-980 like performances
>Benchmarks online
>Can barely match a GTX 970 with 3.5 GB VRAM and runs the same as the R9 290X, a graphics card from 2013
>AMD fans will defend the low price point despite second hand 390/970's being cheaper
>>55321254
>worse than 970
nice meme
Again
The RX 480 draws more power than the GTX 1070 and performs considerably worse.
Power consumption is just 22w less than the Radeon Fury Nano, and performance is considerably behind that Nano as well.
Unless drivers bring a 20% performance uplift Polaris 10 is a big flop. If you look at the performance directly compared to the Hawaii/Grenada die then we see performance per CU has actually decreased. If the RX 480 were clocked at 1050mhz it would be woefully behind the R9 390 in everything. Outside of DX12 there appears to be no IPC uplift visible from the new arch.
The performance and power consumption of this card is so troublesome that it appears outright broken.
>>55321265
>>55321266
>>55321254
piss off shills
this is a civil thread
no shilling allowed
>>55321242
Stylish.
>Overclocking results are mixed, some reviewers getting up to 10% OC, and some barely 2%.
>b-but muh 1600 mhz
true overclockers' dream
>>55321265
Honestly I'm tired of responding to these shills with the same response over and over again. Believe what you want.
>>55321265
Gotta get that bitcoin market bruh. Nvidia gets lower temps and power consumption by completely nuking single and double precision performance.
This might also be why AMD is good in DX12, all the compute shit.
>>55321213
>>55321222
Gentlemen, please. There really is no point in bashing AMD/nVidia.
nVidia just released cards in the $400-$600 range.
AMD released a new card in the $200-$240 range.
There is no point in getting upset, when the new cards do not compete with each other.
>>55321281
Not shilling, I own a R9 290 and AMD fucked themselves over this. Just posting facts
>>55321274
Hitman is optimized for AMD cards and that is the only game where the RX 480 wins
>>55321274
>390x faster than a 980 ti
Nice unbiased benchmark.
>>55321266
>>GTX 1070
>>$380
Any minute now...
>>55321311
If it only wins in one game how does it come out ahead when averaged over 20 games?
>>55321281
I quoted a review conclusion. How is that shilling
I'm going to pull the trigger.
>>55321239
Nope.
>>55321325
>>55321311
oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
btfo
>>55321242
I wonder why he couldn't get further. power limit?
>>55321334
>500 USD
Your prices are strange to the people of my valley. Is this a good deal in your land?
>>55321242
Looks like indospeak to me
t. thaifag
>>55321334
buy the rest and run on integrated graphics, don't get the blower card
wait for non reference
>>55321334
I did too
>>55321334
You do realise there is a gtx 970 on there for €235 euro that btfo's this new card when overclocked
t. I got my family member to order that 970 yesterday
Was really hoping it would have been closer to the 980 in performance, pretty gay.
>>55321369
Why would he get an inferior card?
>>55321325
So the 8gb 480 ($230) costs 54% as much as the 1070 (I used $420 for this calculation), and the 1070 performs 50% better than the 1070. Correct me if I'm doing my math wrong, but doesn't that mean the 1070 and the 480 have the same price/performance ratio?
>>55321331
>0.3!!!!
>>55321371
>I'm stupid and had unrealistic expectations for a product.
>I blame the manufacturer.
>>55321369
3.5
3.5
3.5
>>55321368
What are the rules when it comes to ordering these adapter cables? My monitor has DVI-D in.
>>55321371
The non-reference 480's will have better cooling and be factory OC'd at higher clock speeds. Those will most likely perform a lot better and by that time drivers will be better as well.
>>55321383
Apparently those paint chips did lasting damage, friend.
>>55321115
>4- Most of the reviews note that the reference cooler does well on the noise. As good as nVidia's reference cards? No, but this is something to note, considering the horrible reference jet engines of AMD's 290/290X cards.
This is retarded, the rx 480 goes up to 5++k rpm in 100%, the 1070 founder's edition barely reaches 4k.
Of course the noise will be higher
>>55321417
HOLY SHIT NVIDIOTS BTFO
>>55321371
It should have been. But then
>32 ROPs
No one could have predicted that. Then again, they only gave the Fury X 64 ROPs. And that is why the Fury X failed. Luckily, this card is still fine with 32 ROPs, just not as good as it could have been. I guess it's the only way they could get that $200 price point.
>>55321394
No idea
I checked the pins of my monitor and it had the pattern in DVI-D.
So I entered "DVI-D HDMI" into the search and looked for a cable that looked like it had the same connection and wasn't too expensive, because price makes no difference in quality.
>>55321381
Inferior cards are nearly 10% faster?
Hmmm
>>55321406
Don't even bother, AMD drivers will drag it down anyway.
>AMD doesn't have driver problems you shill
>uhh, the 480 will perform better once
>>55321417
It doesn't show which prices they used for the 1070.
>>55321242
Oh shit, its already in Indonesia?
Anyone knows the estimate time when AMD will released the 460 or 470?
Gonna need at least 40 of them before 2017.
>>55321231
Why would anyone buy a reference card?
>>55321440
wait for drivers and beastmode you fucking nvidiot shill
>>55321447
>>uhh, the 480 will perform better once
the drivers are better*
>>55321325
That statistic doesn't prove much. it doesn't show real-time performance at all.
From ANandtech:
RX 480 only wins in Hitman, the Division and ashes of Sing. In the other games Nvidia wins despite having 3.5 GB of VRAM
>>55321447
Nvidia releases driver optimizations over time with new cards as well. Stupid shill.
>>55321242
>63C max
>>55321383
>costs 54% as much
>1070 performs 50% better
You're mixing up two different percentages here.If we use $420 and $230, then 1070 costs costs 82% more than 480 while performing 50% better. Or, 480 costs 54% as much while having 67% the performance.
>>55321465
To use it.
>>55321485
Thank you. I knew I was forgetting something.
>>55321276
Yes, Polaris means AMD's 14nm silicon can't compete with nVidia's 16nm.
That said, don't forget to note the RX480 is a buy @ $240.
>>55321383
RX 480 has price:performance at 1080p, GTX 1070 at 1440p.
>>55321479
You can look at every benchmark they ran.
Use that URL bar of yours.
>>55321242
holy fuck!!!
>>55321506
>not realizing Polaris was the dump for their misfabs that didn't make the cut for Vega
>>55321454
>40 of them before 2017
What kind of fuckery are you up to Indonesia
>>55321242
Jesus nvidia is finished
36CU at 1266mhz
44CU at 1000mhz
If it weren't for TF2 skewing the results the overall average would be lower than the R9 290X.
>>55321506
AMD's 4th gen GCN is barely competing with 2nd gen GCN. All the IPC uplifts touted have amounted to nothing.
>>55321552
That's one way to speculate. My way would be to think Vega is Polaris with HBM2 and a watercooler slapped on.
>because that worked great for Fury @28nm
>>55321557
LAN center.
>>55321485
Fuck off nerd, the 1070 performs better than anything AMDshit has to offer.
Deal with it.
>>55321565
sold my 290x for a 480, this is shill bullshit, I'm maxing every game I throw at it
>>55321242
Fuck me and I was about to get a reference one today. Screw it, I will wait for the AIBs. My 7870 XT has lasted me 4 years, I can wait a couple of weeks.
>>55321594
can you prove it?
>>55321583
I just really want Vega to be good, ok? Nvidia is going insane with power now. This Funder's Edition paper launch limited supply buy buy buy shit is really not ok.
Performance is great at $200. What I don't like is the power consumption, It's barely even better than the 970 which is on a 28nm node. The FinFET they're using must be garbage. That being said, it's still a great buy, it's just a little worrisome for future cards like the 1060 and the RX460.
>>55321552
No this isn't the case at all. Apple did in fact purchase Polaris 11 and 10 GPUs for upcoming products.
Apple is probably keeping the GPUs clocked low, which seems to be the only way these cards would shine in perf/watt.
It still could be another R9 285 again as well where Apple acquired all functional high binned dies, and the consumer market only got the lower binned left overs.
>>55321591
Stop being a retard, we're talking about the ratios of price/performance here, not total performance.
>>55321622
Ask your mom nvidiot cunt
>>55321638
>power consumption
your mother will pay for it nerd XD
>>55321242
>only 1 gpu was able to reach 1.4 ghz
>all the rest could only get between 1.3/1.5 ghz
Ok at least we got that one settled. The common case of the lucky binned chip. 99% of everyone else won't even get close to 1.4ghz even with a better cooler. It seems the shit overclocking rumors are true for the most part.
>>55321115
should i upgrade from a 760 or is it not worth it?
>>55321266
>1070
>$380
Where? Also where is it in stock for that price?
At least the RX 480 is hitting the advertised MSRPs and is available on release day for more than 16 cards per store
>>55321638
that means you'll have to pay 1 dollar more a year oh no
>>55321633
Hey man, I'm right there with you. I'm wanting Zen to work out but if this is what the GPU division can do on 14nm, I'm losing hope fast for Zen.
>>55321654
relax i'm not an nvidia fan
just wanted some pics
Well, /pol/acks can get 480 for 1170 PLN (239$ with VAT included) That escalated quickly.
http://itpromo.pl/p/1580/133477/sapphire-radeon-rx-480-8gb-gddr5-256-bit-hdmi-3xdp-lite-karty-graficzne-ati-karty-graficzne-podzespoly-komputerowe.html
>>55321669
Obviously it is not in stock now, people have been waiting months for the 480, I'm sure people waiting for the 1070 can wait as long.
>>55321115
>Once non-reference versions are out
How long does that usually take?
>>55321662
Worth if you need a new card. Do you need a new card?
>>55321638
Its still far better option than my old 7790. Most of the time it always reached 110w while gaming.
I'm expecting the new 460 will at least max out under 60-70w
With this I can at least cut my e-bills for 20% each months after replacing all 40 of them.
>>55321659
Actually the card is power throttling when ocing. With more power, they can probably go higher. It just needs more than a 6 pin power connector.
>>55321707
for amd 2 weeks
>>55321707
under 2 months.
290x sold for sub $200 near the end of its life until they rebranded it into the $420 390x.
And now we see the rx480 is even weaker than the 290, basically providing less pref/$ than a card released in 2013.
Sony would like to thank all you new 480 owners for beta testing the Neo.
>>55321713
Hey Falco, I have a little question about LI.
Any reason you don't recommend additional HDDs for backup on the higher end builds? I get that it's all price:perf but you recommend SSDs which have arguable application for most users.
>>55321565
How many times do I have to tell you retards?
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This is the only reason it's not outperforming a 390x. Not to mention the ridiculous 512-bit memory interface of the 390 series. The card has 390 performance with half the ROPs, half the memory-interface width, and slightly less shaders. With drivers optimizations it will outperform a 390x at 1080p eventually. It will probably never do as well at 1440p however, due to the hardware gimps. Vega will be the ungimped, 1440p card.
>>55321674
You misunderstand my post. I was just pointing out facts. My real worry is with Vega.
>>55321715
Of course it will be better. The RX480 is for everybody that isn't running last generations low high end or above. For instance, my brother is still running a 670, the RX 480 will be a perfect upgrade for him at 1080p.
Should I go 8 or 4gb?
>>55321760
>With drivers optimizations
50€ extra for 4GB VRAM on 1080p gaming?
Worth?
Does amd have game stream or shadowplay yet?
>>55321115
Question time.
Should I upgrade from my gtx 770 with rx 480 or wait for something else?
Worth upgrading from a 680?
Yorup here, anyone know if they sell for full retard price?
About to purcdahse one when I notice
>NO DVI-D
>>55321794
It's guaranteed at this point the 1060 will outperform it.
>>55321780
The card is brand new, every single card gets better with driver optimizations over time, even Nvidia's. Are you being retarded on purpose?
>>55321793
They have plays tv, a 3rd party program with social features
>PowerColor RX480 - $273.92
>MSI 1070 FE - $608.71
Fuck this country.
>>55321296
1600mhz was a guess what might be possible with aftermarket 6+8 pin cards and good coolers.
Literally no one thought the reference card would get that high
>>55321757
Some items do not affect performance, as they increase in capacity. But you can get whatever capacity you want. I specifically mention this in the description.
>>55321815
The only question is at what price.
>>55321813
custom cards will have it
>>55321818
Not really what I was asking but I'll just take it as a no.
>>55321831
$199 for 4gb and $240 for 6gb
>>55321831
They pushed the 1060 release early, so it will probably be the same price or around the same price as the RX 480. If the 1060 releases AMD is absolutely done.
>>55321815
Guaranteed by who?
>>55321866
Fanboys, of course. Fanboys always tell the truth, and never spread FUD.
>>55321115
So is it worth it from a 290? i never see anyone mention it ):
>>55321815
>guaranteed
>tfw I can finally get rid of my 7870
Holy fuck, it's like the second coming of the 4850.
>>55321866
I seriously doubt the 1060 will be as slow as this chip, this GPU is seriously, seriously slow, the only reason it's not DoA is because they're practically giving it away
>>55321881
If you are pushing ~60 FPS in the games you are currently playing the answer is obviously no.
>>55321815
We already know the 1060 will be just as shitty as the 480 but more expensive and with way shittier DX12 performance.
Also probably not releasing until 2017 because Nvidia is getting raped by their manufacturer right now.
>>55321855
What were you asking then? Because playtv does pretty much everything shadow play does.
>>55320911
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4096MB-EVGA-GeForce-GTX-970-Superclocked-ACX-2-0-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Reta_977895.html
Would my Athlon X4 860K bottleneck the fuck out of an RX 480? My GTX 950 is already feeling like it's limiting my system somewhat, but I'm not sure if it would be a good idea to get the 480 or wait for the 470 or even the 460.
>>55321866
Because they released a fucking $379 card with Titan x pref. That's before overclocking.
Amd released a turd slower than a 290.
You can wait 2 weeks right, big boy?
>>55321873
Neck yourself pig fucker
>>55321862
>If the 1060 releases AMD is absolutely done
Right, the card will sure BTFO of the 480 with it's 192-bit memory interface. There's no way it will cost more money with less VRAM. And there's no way AMD wasn't awaiting the 1060. They must be absolutely shocked that the 1060 exists, because Nvidia hasn't released x60 series cards since forever.
>>55321893
>4850
My nigga, first card that /g/ ever recommended to me.
Own it for 4 years until it literally died.
>>55321901
>Guaranteed by my doubts.
>My serious doubts, mind you.
Good source of info.
>>55321815
It's guaranteed to have better power consumption. The 480 draws more power than a fucking 1070 so the 1060 should easily do better. Also nvidia can literally just shrink a 980 chip to 16nm and it'll be better than the 480 with superior overclocking lmao.
>>55321922
Mine is still alive after 5 years
>>55321904
I want 144 fps though.
Deciding between GTX 970 and RX 480.
I'm in Sweden where the GTX 970 is about 50$ cheaper. Also based on past experience i prefer Nvidia (especially the drivers)
Which should i buy?
>>55321917
probably okay if you can get a good overclock
>>55321939
Have you looked at benchmarks? The RX 480 can barely match a GTX 970 and R9 390 and performs the same as a R9 290x. You won't get 144 FPS in modern games buddy
>>55321921
Nigga what? The 960 came out like last year
God fucking lord. Fry's Electronics and Best Buy. Why do you niggers not have them on your shelves yet, it's the fucking 29th.
I fucking hope your stocking crew gets aids.
>>55321862
>If the 1060 releases AMD is absolutely done.
I suspect this *could* be true. However, nVidia might well prefer to cede a share of the lower market ranges to AMD instead of kill them off outright. That's what Intel has done and I'd say it's been a net positive for them.
>release 5% better product as monopoly
>market shrugs
>release 5% better product with weak competitor
>"whoa 60% better than Brand Y"
>>55321938
I blame myself because of /g/ buttcoin fiasco from back then.
>>55321942
Go NVIDIA swecuck.
>>55321942
Why are there still so many retards who go after the 970?
>>55321936
Nvidia has a full desktop 980 (with the same clocks) made for laptops that consumes 90w. 9t was released 1.5 years ago I think?
>>55321957
>Fry's Electronics
lmao
>>55321242
The leaks were real?
Am I the only one thinking that Nvidia doesn't have to try too hard to totally piss in AMDs cornflakes with the gtx1060 like they can step in and totally obliterate any market share AMD will pick up on the midrange segment
>>55321918
because the Titan X isn't a retarded, overpriced chip with a price point that no one should ever consider meaningful in any way right? It's not like the only reasons the 980 Ti exists is because of AMD, of course. Nvidia released it out of the goodness of their hearts. They're definitely not driving up the cost of an average GPU because they can. The 1060 definitely won't be an overpriced, heavily gimped card. Nvidia would never do such a thing!
>>55321915
Plays tv causes a performance hit when recording. I know this because my friend uses it to stream league of legends. Also it doesn't have gamestream.
>>55321969
Nvidia is the Apple of GPUs.
>>55321901
>I seriously doubt the 1060 will be as slow as this chip
Not a guarantee by any definition of the word.
>>55321918
What the fuck are you on? Not a single card with Titan X performance has sold for $379 anywhere on this planet. The RX 470 hasn't been released yet and the RX 480 is faster than the R9 290. Why would I need to wait if it has already been confirmed? This makes little to no sense.
>>55321969
It's cheaper and performs better than the RX 480 in most games with 3.5 GB of VRAM and he can get it cheaper. Are you seriously this fucking retarded?
>>55321904
>>55321939
Fuck you im the original asker, and yea i really only consider it for that 4GB more vram, guess im waiting for Vega at the earliest
>>55321121
>>When will we get non-reference cards?
>Typically, within a couple of months of launch.
Is there any new information to suggest we might see a non-ref card sooner than a couple of months? People on leddit were saying they should come in 2 weeks - why don't we have any information from the actual companies, now that the NDA is over?
I need an upgrade from my integrated graphics but I don't want this shitty blower style cooler.
>>55321996
>used card is cheaper
Fuck off shitposters.
>>55321996
>cheaper
In the 3rd world maybe and not for long.
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>>55321996
It's a gimped to fuck last generation card
You have to be fucking braindead to buy it now
You had to be pretty fucking stupid to buy it when the gimping was revealed in the first place.
so why has is it the same TDP as a gtx 970 on 28 nm?
it the 4 gig extra ram that much Watts?
>>55322011
>I'm in Sweden where the GTX 970 is about 50$ cheaper.
>>55322011
A brand new board partner 970/390 is cheaper than a reference 480 in the uk and a lot of places across Europe.
Try again.
>Card actually does beat the 980 because Nvidia didnt put proper DX12 support on Maxwell
And they say Novidya doesnt gimp cards
cant wait to find out what crippling issue Pascal has
>>55322037
>the uk and a lot of places across Europe
Why the hell cares?
Should I trade in my Fury X for triple RX480s? I'd have to get all new water blocks but that's no big deal.
>>55322023
>gimped
Then why does this 3.5 GB VRAM gimped card perform better than a new 2016, 14nm polaris 8 GB graphics card?
>>55322027
It performs better at 1080p for less money, that's why it's worth. The aftermarket 4GB cards will be less than the 8GB reference model. Aftermarket coolers = lower temps and more overclocking.
Fuck that man I'm still hype. I've been stuck on GCN 1.1 for 4 years I'm ready for my new 4.X card. Better than a shit as GTX 970 3.5 gb based on hardware specification alone AND less power hungry than a fucking 390. What's to complain about at 250. Ya did good Polaris 10 you made Tonga proud.
>>55322064
it's AMD that's why
is it worth getting this + an i5 4460?
right now i have a fucking pentium g3220 + r7 240 (2gb version), so i feel like i need a upgrade
>>55322050
>why the hell cares
Oh go back to your country pajeet, you're not American.
>>55322045
>cant wait to find out what crippling issue Pascal https://www.techpowerup.com/223669/geforce-gtx-pascal-faces-high-dvi-pixel-clock-booting-problems
so basically you're shooting yourself in the foot if you buy pascal and can't afford a decent monitor
>>55322083
You don't want Amd with a mid range cpu because cpu overhead.
>>55322083
How much is the 4460? I'd only get it if the price difference is considerably less than Skylake.
http://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/AMD-Radeon-RX-480-Review-Polaris-Promise/Pricing-and-Closing-Thoughts
>The Radeon RX 480 is equal to or faster than the GeForce GTX 970 in every game but one, Grand Theft Auto V; and that title has some severe hitching and stutter that AMD was able to reproduce but doesn't have a fix for yet.
>In a couple of games, namely Hitman and Rise of the Tomb Raider, the advantage for the new RX 480 was substantial - as much as 40%! While I'm still not sold 100% on the idea that asynchronous compute is the culprit here (after all, even AMD has only mentioned that one of the DX12 titles we use here even implements it) it's hard to not see the DX12/DX11 split in the performance data.
>>55321938
8 years
>>55322050
...people that live there...
>>55322102
you're really nitpicking now
>>55322002
There have been launches when non-reference cards came out soon (or even immediately) after reference launch. We do not know that this will be the case this time, so it is best to assume that this will be a typical launch.
>>55322113
And the 1060 will have just as shitty DX12 performance.
>>55322144
considering the countless people happy with the fact that pascal have dvi on their ref cards i wouldn't say so
>>55322113
What the fuck is wrong with that Gears of War benchmark.
Holy shit!
>>55321974
The person I spoke to yesterday said they were putting them out over night. Showed up today and they were like "Oh no we're not putting them out till tomorrow."
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
>>55321265
The reference cooler of the 1080 hits 80c, just so you know.
>>55322160
Oh wait, I was retarded.
Its perf/$ stats.
>>55321331
Why does 1080 score the same as 1070? Is the benchmark capped or something?
>>55322157
Last time I checked $200 Korean 1440p 120hz are STILL the best bang for buck monitors.
You can't run dvi-d with Amd unless you buy a $100 active adapter.
>>55322173
It's 15% better than the 970 in that benchmark, you have a table on the bottom of the article.
>>55322178
No, the performance differences are just extremely minor due to the hardware limitations of current VR headsets.
>>55322178
Read the bottom numbers.
>>55322102
I mean something thatll debiliate the cards completely in the future
Just like it happened with Kepler
Just like its going to happen with Maxwell once DX12 is more popular
The Nvidiot tears are going to be delicious once Pascal's weakness is revealed, meanwhile the RX480 will go from gtx 970 to 980 performance and more overtime
>>55322178
Yes, even overclocking does nothing to that benchmark, my 980 ti scores 11 on that benchmark, but seeing as the titan x, and 1080/70 also do it, idk what to make of the results
>>55321266
>second hand 390/970 being cheaper.
I just checked EU sites and this is what I found:
>RX 480: 220 - 250€
>USED 970: 220€- 250€
>USED 390: 280 - 300€
So you are wrong. They are not cheaper and also USED. After the 770 I bought from ebay started having fan issues making me pay extra for a fan replacement I know the value of buying new vs used. Clearly you dont.
Also I bet if you wait for a few months the first second hand RX480s will hit online shops for sub 200€, so how the fuck can you justify spreading this bullshit information you fucking shill?
>>55322191
>120hz meme
>>>/v/
>being poor you have to buy panels taken from the dumpsters from behind LG and Samsung's plants
>>55322110
around 170$ (eurofag here btw)
>>55321161
>>HOW DID IT DO?
>GPU still fine after update
W O R K S
O
R
K
S
The techpowerup review threw up some wierd results, something is fucky with this card or its drivers.
>>55321237
Threadly reminder that kyle is a butthurt faggot who should off himself.
>>55322221
I actually bought mine before they were any 120hz 1440p monitors on the market. I would still buy one today if I needed a monitor.
Mines been going strong for 4 years now fully calibrated with dispcalgui.
>>55322217
Source?
Cheapest RX 480 8 GB starts at 270 euro in Germany. Cheapest GTX 970 is 250 euro.
Cheapest R9 390 is 280 euro. Source is Idealo, please do your research.
>>55321772
>>55321772
frickin nerds im talking to you
>>55322268
>dispcalgui
cringy freetard
>Custom AMD RX 480 Graphics Cards Can Clock To 1480Mhz-1600Mhz Add-In-Board Partners Report
http://wccftech.com/amd-rx-480-asus-strix-msi-gaming/#ixzz4Cza7uY81
Discuss
>>55321591
>fuck off nerd a top tier GPU performs way better than a low-mid range GPU!
Wew lad, being this edgy and it's only 2016!
>>55321115
>$320 in EE
>performance of 390/970
wooow it's fucking nothing
Why is AMD GPUs so fucking expensive? 390 is still over $350
fucking pajeets
>>55322217
The RX 480 is 269€.
>>55322113
>all that 390 beating 970.
Glad that I'm not taking /g/ advice from buying the meme card.
I will hold on this 390 until HBM2 got released or more depend on how this card handle Vulkan and DX12 titles.
>>55322270
Correction, cheapest R9 390 is 270 euro. So it's the same price as the RX 480.
Sold my 280x. I think I fucked myself over. Now I don't know which card to get.
I've watched a dozen of reviews of the card and everyone recommended it.
>>55322294
>wccftech
>>55322270
>RX 480 8 GB starts at 270 euro in Germany.
How the fuck it only cost 246 euro in Indonesia?
Why europe got jew''d so hard?
>>55322294
As long as they have a pissing DVI-D it sounds good
>>55322295
>top tier
>1070
wew back at ya
>480
time to take this poo to the loo
>>55322294
>wccftech
>>55322294
>Kyle Bennet, editor at HardOCP.com revealed earlier today that AMD’s add-in-board partners — AIBs – report that RX 480 graphics cards with “extremely good air coolers” are hitting anywhere from 1480mhz to 1600mhz depending on the silicon lottery. Which is 17% to 26% higher than the stock clock speed of 1266Mhz on the reference RX 480 design.
He's literally trying to create hype so people are disappointed when this doesn't happen. Kyle is such a sad Nvidia shill
>>55322217
here, today one website added the 8gb version for preorder: 309€
fuck off
>>55322270
Source is ebay.
>do your research
You fucking idiot basically prove that my statement above was right. You only took a different source with different prices but proving the same thing.
Also I was talking about the 480 4Gb version, which indeed can be bought for 219,00€
So what the fuck was the point of this post?
>>55322290
It's the industry standard tool.
>>55322295
Now you got me thinking.
Why spend $500 on two 170w rx480 when you can get the same performance with a single $380 140w 1070?
So neither of the big box stores in town have it, and there sold out online everywhere in the US.
And they said this launch would be better then the 1080.
>>55322359
>It's the industry standard tool.
you don't work in the industry, fuck off.
>>55322338
in 6 months the 1070 will be low end kek
>>55322299
>>55322346
Again, 4Gb version.
>hurr durr 4Gb is not enough
Why do people ITT tell me to buy the 3.5Gb 970 instead of the 480 then?
http://www.ebay.de/itm/4096MB-PowerColor-Radeon-RX-480-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-Retail-/331895024966?hash=item4d467c2d46:g:nBIAAOSweWVXc87V
>PowerColor
I know its aids, but fact is its 219€,
>>55322323
aftermarket 480
>more expensive at reference pricing
>performs worse than cheaper AIB 970/390, with 390 also having 8gb vram
>can't overclock for shit compared to the cheaper cards
>shills still defend this stupid pricing
damage control this.
>>55322294
>>55322364
Have you considered the fact that it's in high demand and that, unlike the 1080, isn't targeted just by richfags?
>>55322323
Depends on your budget
If ur that desperate get the Rx 480 3rd party since you said u fucked up, if not 1070 or 980 ti whatever's cheaper.
>>55321325
"relative performance"
>>55322378
>>PowerColor
>I know its aids, but fact is its 219€,
PowerColor is dope, nigga.
>>55322369
But I do :^)
>>55322350
It can barely match a R9 390 or GTX 970. And it's more expensive.
>>55322397
Glad you like it.
>>55321325
What's even the point in a 1070? This thing is a steaming pile
>>55322393
Budget around 250€
>>55322401
>posting le smiley with the carat nose
>>55322401
>delusional basement dwellers spout nonsense about 'the industry' on /g/
what else is new
>>55321311
seems to be any DX12 they do better in (all both of them, hopefully more coming though)
The 490 better be at least better than the 980 ti, if not I'm getting the 1070
>>55322378
The 8 GiB version is what the review sites are using. The 4 GiB version gives much lower FPS on 1080p and higher.
>mfw I bought a 290 over a year ago for $240 new
>>55322418
:o)
>>55322406
But as expensive or cheaper NEW than these older cards USED.
Again, wait for a few months and you will get it for less than 200€ used online.
>its still worse
Yes, but at that time it will be at least 30% cheaper than the 390 or 970 while being LESS than 30% worse.
>>55322442
PU70
>>55322411
It's not a preference. They're objectively better than Asus, Gigabyte, and MSI in terms of cooling, fan noise, and price.
>>55322439
the 980ti is better than the 1070 though
>>55322406
>its more expensive
Me >>55322217 and this retard >>55322270 disprove this already. So fuck off and use google for at least 1 minute before posting.
>>55322413
You got no choice at the moment but 3rd party fans Rx480
>>55322420
>being mad your poo in loo failure gpu can't run the best bang for buck monitor
>970 not any lower than 300€ in your country
God fucking dammit
>>55322383
brexit doing funny things with your pricings
>>55322406
this
people keep talking about shitty powercolor 4gb versions which are already confirmed to be worse than the 8gb version because of the memory clocks. if you do an actual comparison between the the cheapest AIB 970, 390 and the 8gb 480 which all have similar performance, the 970 comes out the cheapest.
I don't really know that much about this subject so could somebody fill me in on why power consumption matters so much? Electricity is cheap and my PSU can definitely handle more power do why should I care how much power is takes?
>2016
>still willing to give your money to nvidia
It makes sense that the world has gone to shit these days. No one values ethics.
>>55322474
>'works in the industry'
>uses shit tier dumpster dive monitors
lol
>1500 mhz they said
>>55322464
He just said the cheapest R9 390 is 270 euro and the cheapest GTX 970 is 250 euro, so it is cheaper than the RX 480.. Can you read?
>>55322452
Not anymore. Nvidia 9xx gimps already rolled out. Check the links reviewing the RX 480, notice how the 980Ti loses to the 1070 in every single one?
>>55322445
A NEW GTX 970 costs 239€
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/4096MB-EVGA-GeForce-GTX-970-Superclocked-ACX-2-0-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--Reta_977895.html
That's cheaper than the RX 480.
A NEW R9 390 costs 272€
http://www.mindfactory.de/product_info.php/8192MB-XFX-Radeon-R9-390-Double-Dissipation-Edition-Aktiv-PCIe-3-0-x16--_1005954.html
Same cost as the RX 480.
>>55322485
AMD supports terrorist holidays
>>55322442
Good on you. The RX480 is meant for everyone that has performance lower than that very same card. Vega and fat Pascal should be the ones you want.
>>55321986
they don't even have to release the 1060 to do that, they can just do further price drops on the 970, 960, and 950
it would probably negate the entire 400 series release
>>55322484
if you live in a place where electricity is expensive then your GPU might end up costing you an extra 50 bucks or more over the length of its lifespan
>>55321815
like the RX 480 was guaranteed to be a good card? I assume it will be like the 960, overprice for an entry level card :(
>>55322498
Proving my point again, The RX 480 is a fucking shit show in Europe. no reason to get this card if you live in Europe.
>>55322491
1500mhz on 6+8pin aftermarket 480's with better cooling options is what they said
These cards haven't come out yet
>>55322516
*In the EU
>>55322484
Power consumed does not disappear: It turns to heat. Heat needs to be dissipated, otherwise you overheat, and you are forced to lower performance to prevent damage to the card. Heat needs to be dissipated using fans, that create noise.
Lower power consumption = lower heat = lower noise.
It is always good to lower power consumption.
>>55322496
>it's true
I don't want to believe. BLUE PILL MORPHEUS, BLUE PILL.
>>55322021
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>>55322527
>4gb
>slow vram
good luck with that 960 performance. an 8gb 480 with faster vram barely even beats a 970/390 when all are at stock speeds.
>The dutch get cucked hard again
>>55322559
Okay then
>>55322527
>UK finally understands why America did what it did
Being a colony wasn't fun, was it?
Just wait 1-2 month when people start burning the pci-e line.
>>55322516
How about this one, looks like a decent deal to me
>>55322527
>4 GB
>185 pounds
That is so expensive rofl
>>55322562
>graafische kaart
dutch is such a funny language.
>>55321121
>The RX 480 is slightly better, for slightly cheaper
lolno, I see it getting beat by both of these cards.
It's a fair buy however as it's cheaper than the 390/970.
SE Asia here.
Why EU pricing is so abysmally retarded?
From reading this thread, even a neighboring countries got almost 50 euro price different.
Making this whole price discussion so retarded to follows.
>>55322566
>Converts to 266 Euro
Still more expensive than a 970 and 390.
>>55322496
Classic Jewvidia
>>55322574
Uh, no it's not.
I paid that for a 270X on launch, a few years ago.
>>55322477
>1070 is about ~560 CHF
JUST
about time the shops get the cards
>>55322527
top kek
>>55322591
It's the """"Benefit"""" of being in the EU
retarded cucks actually think being in the EU helps them lmao
>>55322566
see >>55322383
>get cheap reference 970 for cheaper than reference 480
>get good aftermarket 970 and good overclocker for same price as 480
we literally just proved there's no reason to buy a 480. good job. thanks for proving my point.
>>55322629
>970
>20 months old
>DRIVER GIMP IS ALREADY IN PROGRESS
yeah nah
Fuck off you little pissant
>>55322573
I'm getting this exact thing.
>>55322629
>good aftermarket
>reference fan
>>55322607
So what was the point of joining EU nation if they can't manage their own market?
I mean, in here the price different between two countries are at least $10 to $15 max.
So, how are the Linux drivers? Phoronix article won't load for me.
>>55322021
Slower than the RX480 and at least $50 more, knowing Nvidia.
>>55322562
hello, friend
>>55322646
>970 20 months old
>Performs the same in newer games as a brand new graphics card using the latest architecture from 2016
>>55322646
>being this mad
kek
>>55322655
read again.
>last night
>see leaks that the 480 is on par with a highly overclocked 970
>wake up
>find out it's actually on par with or below in some cases to a regular 970, and has shit power consumption and probably OC potential too
>this card will never ever be 980 tier unless you upgrade to Windows 10
>and the 970 is probably a better deal in most places
Damn, it feels good to be an Nvidiot right now.
>>55322669
>>55322673
>Higher power draw
>Higher day-1 cost
>No DX12
>>55322665
>chipsettel
>chipset+tel
This is a joke, right? People don't really talk like this, do they?
>>55322591
It's just the merchant jewery inflating prices because of lack of competition within their own respective countries.
>>55322527
https://www.alternate.de/XFX/Radeon-RX-480-Grafikkarte/html/product/1282337?campaign=Grafikkarte/XFX/1282337
>>55322669
>in new game
>20 months card beaten by 4 years old card and new low tier midrange new card.
>>55321274
Can't wait for Vulkan.
>>55321115
WHEN WILL THE 480X COME OUT?
>>55322719
Pretty fucking good deal there mate
>>55321121
>this is a $200 card
5 rupees have been deposited into your account.
>>55322719
Here in Croatia 220 euros would be a fucking good price. 970s cost 320-350 euros.
>All these yuropshitter shitposting against each other on how their shitty country jew'd them.
Man, glad I'm not one of them.
>>55322691
>Higher power draw
>Higher day-1 cost
>>55322629
>>55322383
at least you confirm how bad the 480 is now :^)
>>55322694
It means "With AMD RadeOn RX 480 chipset..."
>>55321922
>>55321938
>>55322114
best card I ever had in their respective timespan. EVER. Could run Crysis and GTAIV fairly fluid in 1080p bundled with an AMD Athlon X2 3800+ from fucking 2006
>>55322736
thats no deal its literally the normal price
>>55322739
>I am not aware that the Atlantic ocean separates the UK from the USA.
>>55322739
>GIGBYTE
>$200≠$200
you fucking mong
That $200 is for the 4GB model
How much will the custom 480s cost more?
>>55322669
970 is not worth it because it's not future proof.
It shits the bed in DX12
When the fuck are non reference 1070 and 480's going to come out. I've been waiting for this generation of cards for 2 years now and it's time to upgrade but now it looks like I'm gonna have to wait another 2-4 months for some non-shitty, non-reference design cards.
>>55322769
>>55322772
5 additional rupees have been deposited into your accounts.
>>55322795
>basic geography is beyond my grasp
Seek help, friend.
>amdrones shouting from the rooftops about how the 480 will have 8gb vram, less power consumption and be cheaper than previous gen offerings
>mfw the 8gb versions are all more expensive than 970's across uk and europe
>mfw they're now trying to get everyone to buy the slower 4gb version even though the faster 8gb version can barely beat a a 2 year old 970 and 1.5 year old 390
keep it coming. the damage control is glorious.
>>55322509
Nvidia may be greedy, but they're not foolish. The RX 480 delivers 970 performance for around 200 bucks. The 1060 must either deliver the same performance and cost around that price point, or be a faster card if they decide to price it higher.
Personally I see it as
>1060 = $239 / 970 performance
>1060ti = $279-299 / 980 performance
>>55322794
What's wrong with the reference card? It's not a jet engine anymore.
>>55322812
Hi there!
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Now, there's no need to thank me - I'm just doing my bait to help you get used to the anonymous image-board culture!
I'm using a 7850. Since I'm used to running decrepit, outdated technology which is outclassed by any modern GPU, is the 480 for me?
Fury level performance with overclocks, right?
>>55322795
oh shit >>55322566 just got blown the fuck out
>>55322823
It's fine for reference but it's still reference which is always inferior. The cooler is what's holding back this chip from showing its full potential.
How can I get a 480 for free/cheap?
>>55322812
just ignore blatant shilling
>>55322769
Not him but was just wondering if graphics cards are made in china or somewhere else in asia?
>>55322843
>You should always remember to stop using your tripcode when the thread it was used for is gone
You are actually posting in a thread relevant to that tripcode, anon.
>>55322823
I refuse to buy reference cards. Why should I buy premium price for a card thats anywhere from 10% to 20% slower than a non-reference version for almost identical prices. Also what the fuck is up with Nvidia not making cards. it's been almost a month and they are still sold out everywhere. At this rate I am going to buy the first card that's non-reference and in stock.
>>55322858
Probably all in Taiwan. I think all/most card manufacturers are HQed there.
>>55322865
>premium price
m8 its 200 bucks
REMINDER:
AMD SET ONE PRICE FOR EACH CARD
ONE
PRICE
ONLY
that is $200
They are not responsible for inflated prices, or greedy retailers.
>>55322794
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070/
https://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rx480/
This site is a godsend for checking when stock gets in.
>>55322865
>I refuse to buy reference cards. Why should I buy premium price for a card
You new to the game? This is a brand new meme from Nvidia, anything that's labeled as a reference card and not a "Founder's Edition" is in fact going to be cheaper than aftermarket cards.
>>55322854
steal one
>>55322884
toppest of keks. I also don't get why people threat this card as anything more than it is.
>>55322884
Yes, and a non-reference one is still going to be 200$. For 10-20% more performance. Sometimes even up to 30% (but those are later generation cards)
>>55322891
No they didn't. Chief Poo said $199 for the 4GB and
>a little more
for 8GB at Computex.
>>55322879
I see. Was just curious because non US retailers love to use the shipping excuse as a way to jack up prices, especially in aus which is closer to asia than the US
Cunts are fucked
>>55322896
So are you saying the aftermarket 1070's are going to be more than 600 fucking dollars? What the fuck nvidia. 1080 aftermarket looks like it might hit 1k for fucks sake.
>>55322908
Only after the reference cards sell out. This really is your first GPU release then? Underage or just not big into /g/ stuff until recently?
>>55322911
Same diff
They don't set prices internationally
>>55322817
>but they're not foolish.
I never seen any Nvidia card that got similar performance with AMD and cost less than the AMD counterpart.
I own dozens of AMD r240 cards, the only Nvidia card with similar performance cost almost $15 more.
Even the shitty manufacturer like Galax Nvidia cost more than AMD Sapphire card.
I don't know what's wrong with Europe pricing method, but here in Asia we got stable pricing.
Is the 4gb version of the 480 that bad?
Because I can't see it almost anywhere here. It's like they don't want to sell it.
>>55322892
>tfw 1070 is in stock for £399
so tempted to pull the trigger
>>55322496
How nvidiots couldn't see this coming is beyond me. If you want to buy top tier card and just buy the next one that's released you're fine funding the jew but if you want to keep that shit for more than 1 generation you better lube up.
>>55322659
>So what was the point of joining EU nation if they can't manage their own market?
Tricking idiots into giving up national sovereignty to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats without even a federal constitution or bill of rights
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/683739/EU-referendum-German-French-European-superstate-Brexit
http://www.thenews.pl/1/10/Artykul/258994,New-EU-superstate-plan%E2%80%99-by-France-Germany-report
>>55322934
I've been building and buying computers since Voodoo cards. That absolutely is not the case. When the aftermarket cards come out they are only 10-40$ more and settle after a month.
>>55322926
You're retarded. No signs of reading comprehension or basic understanding of concepts. Seek voluntary euthanasia or at least sterilization at your earliest convenience.
>>55322294
>wccftech
>Kyle Bennet
Everything they said about the Rx480 before today was shown to be bullshit. Everything!
>>55322496
>implying the 980 ti beat it before
>new tech shouldn't be faster than old tech because amd told me
spotted the retard
Still don't know if I should bother upgrading a 780ti if I've still got 1080p monitors. Upgrade monitors first, card first or save more and do it all in one go. Technically I only use one of my monitors for gaming so I could just upgrade one monitor later on...dunno.
>>55322926
No.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&IsNodeId=1&N=100007709%20601202919
People at rabbit are saying 3rd party card are 2 weeks away. Is it realistic to expect them so soon?
>>55321565
>Cities Skylines 30.77fps
What the fuck? How can this game be so demanding?
>>55322999
>All out of stock
>No pre-order with current price
welp.
There goes nothing.
>>55322960
>to a bunch of unelected bureaucrats
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>55322562
>alternate
>>55323022
I really hope they come that soon.Because a grapchics card is all i am lacking for my new budget rig and a 3rd party 480 would be perfect for it.
>>55323082
Yes I know Alternate always overprices their shit, but it's just insane that the same card in the same store has such a price difference in the country right next to it.
>>55322364
>24x larger release shipment
>85% of the market falls into this price range of card
>took 5 hours to sell out in the US vs being sold out before stores even opened at 10am EST.
Yup much worse than 1080/1070 launch
>>55321148
>>55321193
>>55321213
>>55321222
>>55321254
>>55321265
>>55321266
>>55321276
>>55321311
>>55321315
>>55321325
>>55321343
>>55321369
>>55321433
>>55321440
>>55321442
Here's your (You) you inbred fags. Now get out.
>>55322240
does Wattman work?
>>55322527
Waiting for all the EU guys to be pic related
Good job UK I'm proud of your guys and fighting against the 4th Reich for your freedom
>>55322557
USELESS
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>>55322135
Only people who live in Europe are third world jihadists...and unless Isis suddenly cares about graphic performance I think it's safe to ignore Europe.
>a philosophy of efficiency
>cant even meet PCIE specs
It has x265 hardware decoder for watching chinese cartoons?
Did any of tech reviewers tested new video encoding engine performance in comparsion to older generations of it?
I had saved my poor-bucks to upgrade from r7 250x. And 480 sounds like great choice in when they release non ref cooled models. Especialy for vram heavy skyrim waifu mods where 3.5 might be not enough.
So I have some outdated Radeon HD 7 series and was thinking about upgrading in the next coming months, the 1080 seems excessive for me as my 7 series is handling, just not greatly. I mostly play overwatch and dota, the 970 is looking like a good upgrade without breaking the bank, but the 480 would probably also do the trick? Idk shit on me with your opinions please
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Cool, thanks
