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>>55316321
>WHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
to your left, you can see the average nvidiot in its natural environment
>>55316321
POO
Anyone remember the posts I made asking people to check out what other AMD cards also when paired beat a 1080 in DX12 ashes?
The answer was the 390.
>>55316356
THE
>>55316369
LOO
>>55316348
You do realize that he's laughing because last gen cards are faster than current gen cards? Even in amd side.
POO IN GPOO
>>55316354
Sadly the 390 is actually faster than the 480
>>55316492
He's laughing because $400 last gen cards are faster than current gen $200 cards.
Some laughter. He just looks like an idiot.
Well, time to save for a 1070.
This is the last time I defend AMD.
>PREMIUM DX12 PERFORMANCE
DESIGNATED SHITTING FRAMES
>>55316500
Well I actually said 380X but people had a go at me for being 'fucking wrong' or whatever
>>55316492
>faster
like that matters anything anymore... boohoo i have 55 fps and he has 57
BTW, what are the watt/fps and price/fps rates? are they somewhat better at least?
>I wanted to sell my 280x for this
AMD doubled their performance/price ratio. The 480 costs half what the 390 does and has the same performance.
Let me know when nVidia does that. They have nothing to compete. Their 970 not only doesn't support DX12, but it also costs more for the same performance and draws more power. So nVidia's only retort to the 970 is an older more expensive and less efficient card.
And somehow AMD is the one fucking up.
>>55316321
Thread theme song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIPggCgYK38
>>55316547
>4xAA
post different AA images showing difference thx
>>55316492
And I'm laughing because the current gen card has half the TDP than the last gen card, while the performance difference is 5%.
>>55316562
The 970 is actually faster than a 480 and the same price now
>>55316562
It's called Maxwell and Pascal
>DX 12 meme
See you in 2020 when DX 12 adoption starts kicking off
It costs 2x less than the 390 tho
>>55316321
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>55316580
The cheapest 970 is around €300, what are you on about.
The difference is maybe 2 fps, and probably at stock clocks, why is OP such a faggot?
And AoTS is really mediocre performance test. And NDA lasts less than hour, please.
>>55316504
>$400
On their release, yes.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=r9+390&N=-1&isNodeId=1
Also the 480 is MEANT to either be equal to or beat the 390 and 970.
The RX 480 will unlock a secret chip with new drivers, it will kill 4k!
>>55316586
aftermarket 390 costs less where I live
>>55316602
Cheapest brand new 970 is $245
>Gimpworks benches everywhere
>People pretending to be surprised that the reference card with a shitty it's not beating a card that costs 50% more doesn't even have a reference version with a shitty cooler
I see the n/v/idiots are definitely trying to turn the fact that it didn't surpass what the early benches showed into some kind of loss...
>>55316620
>Also the 480 is MEANT to either be equal to or beat the 390 and 970.
Its faster and cheaper than an overclocked 970
>>55316618
>Difference is 2 FPS at stock clocks
>The image literally says 970 Extreme OC
>>55316638
Uhh except the benchmarks clearly show it's not
It's slower than both a 970 and a 390
>>55316638
>faster
ok pajeet
>cheaper
prices can and will change because of this.
Holy fuck this damage control.
>>55316629
That's in murrica, here in Europe prices tend to be quite a lot higher as our prices include VAT (which is 19-25% depending on the country).
>>55316580
>faster
A non-reference, sure. That chart shows an overclocked 970 compared to a reference 480, hardly a fair comparison.
>same price
Where's that 200$ 970?
>>55316583
Well when I buy components I care about their future-proofing. Why would I buy a card that I already know doesn't support the latest version of the most used game API/engine when I can buy a card with the same performance for cheaper that does support it?
My question here is: when the 480 exists, why would anyone buy the 970? You either get a 1070 which is a reasonable upgrade and pay plenty for it, or you get a 480.
>>55316626
Leave your third world shithole then
>>55316575
>MUH POWER DRAW
ah yes. but muh OC and temps.
>>55316650
>Uhh except the benchmarks clearly show it's not
Non-gimpworks titles (like the one posted by the OP) do show it being faster than an OC:d 970...
>>55316652
>faster
>ok pajeet
Show me a non OC 970 vs 480 and we will see whats better :^)
>>55316659
shhh shill
>>55316671
OH right, it's just a big conspiracy to try to keep AMD down, that's why the 480 is underperforming
>>55316672
>non OC 970
you do realize both of these, or maybe even all of these cards, are OC'd? The point of this OC is to show how much a card can get the most out of. The 480 is literally the worst OCer.
>>55316652
You have no idea what damage control means, do you? Look at your own post.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kUfF97-PVYI this was just posted i have no idea waht scores mean tho
>>55316672
Why can't AMD even beat their own 390?
>>55316656
>non-reference
The card shits itself with a 1.5% overclock, non-reference anything isn't going to fix that.
>>55316700
You are comparing a release 480 to some fucking Zotac 970's that are made literally for that.
Wait some months for more 480's and we will see.
Holy fuck what a bunch of retards
>>55316696
>Gimpworks
>A "conspiracy"
Yes and Monsanto are totally the good guys, right?
>>55316704
Not him but I'm sure he's just shitposting...
... and the fact that AMD IS FINISHED
>>55316321
Is that the 4gb 480?
>>55316732
Nice straw man there buddy
>>55316696
>that's why the 480 is underperforming
Did you fucking expect 3xSli 1080 performance from a $200 card you fucking autist?
>>55316515
>nobuna s2 never ;_;
>>55316639
I meant the difference beetween stock 480 and 390
>>55316696
What exactly are you denying? Benchmarks made with Gameworks titles will perform better with nVidia. This isn't a flat-Earth theory, it's expect.
>>55316711
Based on ONE report made by some Polish guy. Has anyone that isn't as reputable as my grandma in terms of tech jornalism posted OC reports?
>>55316732
Monsanto has a few good practices. And even if they themselves are shitty people, genetically engineered food is a great thing. People don't starve, I don't care what some gluten-free hippies say.
>>55316711
>Power circuitry and cooling clearly not to overclocking
>"non-reference anything isn't going to fix that."
Yes, keep telling yourself that...
So im guessing the 470 is going to be even worse. Should I just buy a 970?
Seriously, why do AMDfags open their mouths so early? They literally set themselves up to be BTFO.
>"f-fury will destroy Nvidia!"
>Ends up being dogshit that can't overclock for shit and is essentially inferior than Nvidia equivalents
>"480 gives 980 performance for $200!"
>Ends up being sub 970 performance
You cucks need to learn to shut the fuck up. You're the underdog for a reason, your company is incompetent
>>55316744
I expected it to at least beat AMD's own last gen card, but it can't even do that
>>55316763
>some polish guy
The benchmarks are out shitter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CJBaZ9V2Eo
>>55316768
Get a good after market 980. It's around $40 more expensive than a 970 nowadays without the gimping and is a solid 15~ fps faster.
The 980 is pretty much the best 1080p GPU on the market right now.
>>55316321
Is it still worth it if I want an upgrade from 770?
I would be still playing at 1080p.
>>55316770
>"f-fury will destroy Nvidia!"
>"480 gives 980 performance for $200!"
Shit no one said ever, and adding a stutter doesn't make it true. The 480 was meant to compete with the 390 and 970 from the beginning. Lo and fucking behold, that's exactly what it does.
>>55316770
>480 gives 980 performance for $200
There is some truth >>55316672
>>55316770
>You're the underdog for a reason, your company is incompetent
Sums up AMD quite well.
>>55316700
however what you fail to consider is that those are aftermarket OC versus standard cooling reference OC
>>55316767
>I WANT TO BELIEVE THAT AMD ARE INCOMPETENT AND CAN'T MAKE A CARD CORRECTLY
the irony of your post is astounding.
>>55316770
this
AMDrones are on full damage control.
>wait for polaris
>wait for vega
>wait for drivers to mature
>do-dont worry, nv-nvidia will gi-gimp old cards
>>55316791
>The 480 was meant to compete with the 390 and 970 from the beginning. Lo and fucking behold, that's exactly what it does.
Then why is it slower than both of them?
>>55316780
The 390 costs more you dumb fucking shit
>>55316791
>"480 gives 980 performance for $200!"
Pic related, don't even play dumb. This shitty synthetic bench was posted fucking everywhere with the title "NVIDIA BTFO"
>>55316770
those doom scores tell me they still haven't fixed the cpu overhead with polaris
>>55316813
The 480 is selling for $250 and the 390 the exact same
>>55316794
>There is some truth
About as much truth as saying a 970 is equal to a Fury X.
One outlier benchmark doesn't change the facts that it's not even on the 970s level, let alone 980.
>>55316817
good goys buy the card to mine buttcoins
>>55316826
And this one is $199 while doing like 5 fps less
>>55316811
See >>55316770
It beats the 970 in plenty of titles, especially in 1440p because lmao3.5 while being cheaper and drawing less power.
>>55316817
In hindsight this is hilarious. Whoever made this picture trolled everyone.
>>55316348
>>55316618
>>55316632
>>55316620
>>55316742
>Comparing two companies with a tendency to fuck over their customers
>Somehow a straw man
>>55316763
If you think all of the underhanded shit they've done over the years is somehow negated by a few good deeds, you're an idiot. They've majorly screwed over farmers with the way they force them to keep buying their seeds every year by suing people who try to keep part of their harvest as seed crop. Making GMOs and using astroturfing to convince people they're safe when the science is still out is some the lesser stuff they've done.
Where the did the 980 for $200 meme come from?
Did AMD actually claim it was that powerful?
>>55316844
The 970 is faster in more titles than the opposite.
>>55316864
Now put them in 4k
>>55316817
And you were an idiot for believing in this. AMD themselves would be all over this if it were true, and yet the emphasis was on 2x380 CF beating a 1070. This was never an official benchmark, just some synthetic scale some guy made. It doesn't even reference the rest of the hardware.
>People Expected 980 perfomance
Top kek. Not in DX11. In most dx12 games its on par with the 980
But why is the dx11 shit is worse than the last 2 generation...
>tfw my r9 290 launched 3+ years ago would only be a couple FPS slower than this card
That's really sad. You could say it's cheaper but only $100-$200 AUD for waiting 3 years (and used older gen cards even cheaper). Haven't bought an nvidia card since 9600gt but if I wanted to upgrade it would be impossible to with AMD.
>>55316780
Make that 2 gens.
>>55316844
I just went through all of them.
The 970 beats the 480 in 18 out of 26 tests, it's pretty solidly a better card
>>55316859
Yeah some people actually did say it was on par with the 980. I'm still holding out for the aftermarket cards but it looks like I might just keep my 380 for another year
>>55316802
That's not what he said. This reference card was never meant to OC. If you use the same chip on a board made for OC, guess what - it will OC.
Disappointment of the year glad I got a 390x instead Lord knows how slow the 490x will be barely faster than a 3 year old 290x lerl
>AMD will cease to exist in your lifetime
>>55316848
The irony that AMD is the ones fucking over their customers is hilarious
Guys, guys. AMD didn't fucking lie. The 480 IS competing with the 1080.
IN TEMPS
>>55316890
>They get mad money from PS4 and bone
Yeah ok
>>55316890
Doesn't really surprise me the ultimate failure will be Zen flopping
>>55316859
Yup and some were even saying 1070 levels
The actual reality is so far removed that it's actually hilarious at this point.
>>55316864
>>55316879
Yes, a more expensive card overclocked that draws more power beats a less expensive stock clock more efficient card in about 2/3 of those titles. Again, how is this a good comparison?
>>55316894
Can you explain to me how AMD is fucking over their customers
(Firstly explain how you actually believe they HAVE any customers)
>>55316883
>REFERENCE CARD WAS NEVER MEANT FOR OC
>Meanwhile Nvidia Maxwells and Pascals OC just fine on launch day
Guys, is the 980 a good buy right now? I'm upgrading from a 550ti.
It's around £240 in Britbongistan and all the benches i've seen put it at around Fury levels for around £50 cheaper.
It also Overclocks extremely well putting it up to 980ti levels with a good OC.
>>55316867
>using these mid-tier cards in 4k
but why?
>>55316897
Kek my 390x idles at 30 and maxes at 65
>>55316908
It's not more expensive, it's actually the same price.
It is disappointing though from what I can tell. I expected a bit more than this. Looks like I will be sticking with my 290 for a while yet.
>60 FPS across all games @ 1080 they said.
>Still can't break 60 FPS in TW3
Sadpanda.jpg
>>55316915
Just get a 970 or 390
980 is a SHIT card not gonna lie
>>55316910
They promised that getting 2 would beat a 1080 for less.
It doesn't, it's literally worth less than getting 970s SLI unless you play only one game which nobody actually owns or plays.
>>55316908
>Yes, a more expensive card
False, the 970 is around the same price. You can compare reference card prices to after market.
>overclocked
It's a superclocked GPU variant that adds around 5fps, even with that 5fps removed it's still more powerful than the 480 and can also overclock MUCH better.
Stay mad AMDcuck, the 390 alone renders your GPU obsolete.
>>55316897
kek
this reviewer is a a nvidia shill, wait for benchmarks guys
>>55316890
The 480 seems to be the nail in the coffin, RIP AMD
>>55316915
>Gimped DX12
Dont do it. Wait for 1060 or 490
>>55316321
>$200 card
>get $200 performance
>AMD BTFO DEAD AND FINISHED
Not really a surprise desu, now I can order my 1070 in peace.
>>55316547
I wanted to sell my 390 for this
>>55316913
Good for nVidia then, but THIS PARTICULAR REFERENCE CARD was never meant to OC. Reading isn't hard. If you want to OC get one of the cheaper non-reference cards that will be out soon.
>>55316915
holy crap that's actually a good steal. do it senpai
>>55316927
But the 970 and 390 are only £30 cheaper for around 15 fps less performance?
The 980 took a huge price drop recently after the 1080/1070 released
>>55316897
top kek
>>55316890
>>AMD will cease to exist in your lifetime
Yeah, and this is coming from a AMD buyer. Its fucking pathetic they release a *80 card and its literally a barebasic 50 intermediate level card. AMD make RX450s? should rebrand it to that.
>>55316897
>a reference card is hot
Shock! Awe!
>>55316321
gonna john and say they had a fucked card or shilling, they couldn't even OC past 2% while everyone else could
besides it was faster than 390 in the 2nd 1/2 of the games listed
>>55316935
...these are benchmarks
>>55316915
If the 980 is that cheap then fuck yea. It's pretty much the best 1080p card on the market right now and overclocks like a motherfucker
>>55316672
>390 beats the 980
?????
so is this better than a GTX 960 OC?
>>55316931
>>55316922
Where's this magical 200$ 970 I keep hearing about?
>It's a superclocked GPU variant
Well there you go
>even with that 5fps removed it's still more powerful than the 480
Proof?
>>55316790
>Is it still worth it if I want an upgrade from 770?
>I would be still playing at 1080p.
same someone?
>>55316968
You dont put 300x Physx bullshit in games and suddently Nvidia aint that strong :^)
>>55316940
Lol that would have been bad
>>55316547
I almost sold my 380 for this
>>55316978
>>55316980
>Selling a top tier GPU for a $200 budget card
/g/ more like /a/utism
HOLY SHIT, ALL THE SALT IN /r/AMD
HAHAHAHAHA
>>55316975
Yes
>>55316770
>but muh OC
I have a 380 so I'm happy with this improvement in performanance for basically what I payed before.
Let me know when both companies bring out they're actually high end cards.
>>55316970
>Proof?
The benches, take of 5fps on every bench and the 970 still wins in the majority of titles compared to the 480.
>>55316672
how the fuck this is possible? this is really good card then for $200
>>55316975
>>55316790
>1080p
no need to upgrade
>>55316492
It can't even beat a fucking 290X/390 and you can get each for 200€
I expected nothing and still got dissapointed.
...Nvidia will go full penetration next week, since the 1060 nda lifts at 7th july. Looks like there won't be a price drop for nvidia cards any time soon.
>>55317002
Alright, I find that weird since the XFX with Stock cooler is already OC-ed 1322Mhz. Thats already a 4-5% OC. And he could not reach 1.6%?
>>55316995
LOL nice
I was watching the calm before the storm yesterday and they were already starting to get bad feelings about the leaks
Can't wait to see the shitstorm today.
AMD fans literally on suicide watch.
>>55316995
>>55317022
>Looks like there won't be a price drop for nvidia cards any time soon
There should be.
Aside from memes the 480 is a better card than a 970 so there is no point in not making cheaper the 900x line.
>>55316949
>this particular reference card
Please stop shilling for AMD, the jig is up.
>>55316995
>1070 for $400
please show me an European online store where I can get one for $400
>>55317005
>paid $175 for my 380
I honestly don't need a GPU at the moment(because I'm not a hardcore gaymer) but if I get a new one I want a more significant leap in performance. The 480 just seems like a waste.
>>55317011
>take of 5fps on every bench
That's not how comparisons work dude.
>>55317040
>the 480 is a better card than a 970
Uhh these benches clearly showed it is not
>>55316321
>POOLARIS
>>55316672
Have fun finding a non OC 970
be happy he was running the GTX980/ r9 290/380 at stock, so it doesn't look as embarrassing as it could have been
>>55316953
the 970 isn't being made by Nvidia anymore, they're just getting rid of inventory at this point.
Are people really expecting a $200~ reference card with only 4 power pins to perform better than 6 pin cards that are x3-4 the price?
The fuck?
>>55317052
Its cheaper and also every benchmark is comparing a 480 to a fucking Zotac 970 that could be basically be named 970ti.
SHOULD I BUY THIS OR THE GTX 960 HALP
>>55316915
£240 is extremely good deal for a 980. Go for it since you aren't going to get anything faster for less money anytime soon because your import prices are going to rise because Brexit rekt the £.
>>55317042
How is it shilling? It uses a fucking 6-pin power cable and you're amazed AMD didn't break the laws of Physics to make their GPU draw more power than possible?
If you want to whine about how they should have made it use an 8-pin cable and OC better go ahead, but otherwise it's just not possible.
>>55317069
Sadly it's not cheaper
>>55316562
What? 390 costs pretty much the same where I live. 390x is 50€ more.
>>55317020
>how the fuck this is possible? this is really good card then for $200
The benchmarks seem to be all over the place kinda hard to judge if it's actually worth it (although 200$ is kinda good price point even if it isn't as good as people hope.)
>>55317046
Personally I will upgrade just for the noise and heat reduction.
>>55316321
I am disappointed. Time to wait a little longer for the 1060.
>>55317080
Alright, show me a 970 cheaper/same price as 200$.
>>55316547
>mfw I did sell my 280X for this
>>55317051
Ok don't, and then the 970 still stomps the 480.
Either way, until you get benches of a 480 beating the 970 then you have no argument
>>55317062
>x3-4 price
Except they're not. The 970/390 are the same price as the 480 and perform better. The 980 is arpound £40 more expensive and it fucking stomps the 480.
>>55317070
buy a 390 or a cheap 980/970 on ebay, or wait for the 1060 which got announced for next week for 299$.
>>55317029
>trusting an NDA breaking nvidia fanboy that has 2 amd vids on his channel
>>55316655
Well, yes.
That's why 8GB RX480 is 295€ on preorder, and brand new GTX970 w/ OC costs 305€?
Well its not too bad, the stock reference 480 matches an OC 970, for a bit less.
Over time the 480 will probably best the 970 comfortably as Nvidia stops giving a shit about the 900 series. You can also get 8GB of memory, making it more future proof.
And I'm saying this as someone who sold his 970, and is thinking about buying it again.
>>55317096
Its still an upgrade bro.
>>55316915
Anyone who advises you against buying that 980 is a suicidal AMDcuck.
Buy it, fucking now. £240 is a steal and the 980 is legit probably the best 1080p card around right now
>>55316915
if it's brand new then go for it
>>55316808
>
well at least the last one was true
How do you think the 1060 will do?
WIll it be around the 980?
>>55317099
>Either way, until you get benches of a 480 beating the 970
But I never said this. I said match or compete. As in, the same.
If you take 5FPS off of every OC 970 in that chart, it does not surpass the 480.
>>55317093
there are dozens of them on ebay, you can get one easily for 200€ or less if you are a bit patient
AYYMDPOORFAGS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH
>>55317077
Continued shilling with unrelated matters?
Ok pajeet.
>>55317029
I heard that some press sites got really shitty cards which throttle even when not OCd if put in closed case and not open test bench. Apparently TPU is one of the sites with such card but we see that in like 10 minutes.
>>55317093
Try to buy a 480 for $200, I'll be waiting
Hint: It's only available at $250 and up
>>55317101
http://imgur.com/a/3iTkS
I'm trusting this. Look at the Product name
Radeon RX 480 BLACK OC 1328M.
The 1328M probably means that is OC'd to 1328Mhz
>>55317126
>How do you think the 1060 will do?
Irrelevant. By the time it comes out, the 480 would already ahve the majority of the market share.
>>55317106
>matches
Nice try pajeet.
>>55317128
>Have to wait for sales from a guy from China just to buy a GPU that is weaker than the one i can get anytime
>>55317128
>you can buy something used for cheaper than something new!
Wow.
>>55317134
>things that show I'm wrong are irrelevant
GTX 1060 (Ti?) will destroy the RX480
>>55317106
rx480 costs more than gtx970 here
8GB poolaris seems to make no sense at all since the card has barely enough power to benefit from 4GB VRAM.
>>55316321
>1.3fps slower
gollee gee.
it's fucking nothing.
He didn't use proper drivers...
He overclocked it by 9% and that causes crashes? The XFX card gets up to 1328Mhz.
Either his card is badly binned, the 6 pin doesnt deliver enough power, or the chip is BIOS limited.
>>55317093
Show me comparison of a 970 vs a 480 4gb and not the 8gb as these show.
The 970 kills it.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2016/05/27/from_ati_to_amd_back_journey_in_futility/
>In the simplest terms AMD has created a product that runs hotter and slower than its competition's new architecture by a potentially significant margin
KYLE WAS RIGHT ALL ALONG
Wait, do people ACTUALLY buy AMD on /g/?
I thought it was ironic shitposting?
>>55317164
how does power relate to vram? more vram is just so you can crank up texture quality and that's it
>>55317106
> 480
> 8GB of memory, making it more future proof.
by the time it makes use of its VRAM it won't have enough performance, hell even now it has not enough performance for demanding games.
witcher 3 doesn't even need 3gb VRAM at 4k and it still will run like shit on this stupid 480
>>55317177
It's the best most of the people here can afford mate. Most of the posters a kids collecting good boy points.
Hey guys, just wait for the benchmarks.
Oh wait...
>>55317151
>Irrelevant
>Arguing about power draw when it's less than 50 watt difference
>Arguing about power draw with 28nm vs 14 nm
>Not addressing the fact that this 'brand new card' can't beat a 2 year old card that Nvidia isn't making anymore and most people already own
>Literally a useless card that nobody wants including AMDerps because everyone and their grandfather already has a 290x/290/970/980 which shits on this heartily.
>>55317138
>xfx
>reference cooler
Got my hopes up for a second
>>55317170
You made the claim that it was cheaper/same price. I asked for proof. You realized you were wrong. Now you're backtracking.
>>55316348
What? Does he have a decent frame rate?
>>55317180
Nah, these days VRAM is used for different kind of buffers and screenspace effects. A single frame might be combination of close to 20 different buffers these days.
It's the GTX 950 for me then.
>>55317198
>wait for benchmarks
>wait for drivers
>wait for custom coolers
>wait for custom pcb design
>wait for more dx12 games
>wait for 1060
>wait for 490 vega
>>55317211
Sorry anon that wasnt me.
>>55317080
^im not that anon
>>55317219
NO, ANON! WAIT FOR THE DRIVERSSSSSSSSSSSSS
>>55316791
>Shit no one said ever
maybe if you were living in a cave or retarded to the point of illiteracy
>>55317224
wait for the 490. The 480 hasnt been even released yet and they have moved onto the 90
an OC RX480 is a bit better than an OC 970 so there you go
Proper aftermarket coolers should be able to clock higher
>>55317199
>Arguing about power draw when it's less than 50 watt difference
50W is like 1/3 of the power draw for these cards, yes 30% is a big difference.
>Arguing about power draw with 28nm vs 14 nm
How is it my fault that nVidia can't into node size?
>Not addressing the fact that this 'brand new card' can't beat a 2 year old card that Nvidia isn't making anymore and most people already own
You mean the card that costs more, draws more power and can't use DX 12? That card?
>Literally
You have no idea what that word means, of course.
>>55317224
Just keep on waiting. Someday AMD will deliver ;_;
>>55317231
I'm tired of waiting. Also, I realized that my games aren't really that intensive anyways and I rarely play anymore.
>>55317169
it's the 14nm, it will probably run best between 25-50°C and these chips will have lower deviation in terms max clock speed(OC)
just look at the 1080 where 2100MHz seems to be the limit for them, this will be the case for AMD as well
>>55317233
>mimimi if you don't agree with my baseless claims you're dumb!
Select all the images with grass.
Is the 390 the card to get then?
Should I wait a couple of weeks for the prices to rearrange?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/amd-radeon-r9-rx-480-8gb-review,1.html
>>55316321
NEW REVIEW
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_rx_480_8gb_review,18.html
10% SLOWER THAN 980
Will it run Crysis though?
The RX 480 can use more than four displays through DisplayPort daisy chaining. What models of 1070 can?
None of the MSI or EVGA cards can.
> Maximum overclock of our sample is 2250 MHz on the memory (13% overclock) and 1335 MHz on the GPU (5% overclock).
> Actual 3D performance gained from overclocking is 5.0%.
5% OC MAX
>>55317199
50Watt max a big difference in term of heat over time.
>>55317262
>>55317263
WE DID IT BROS
WE BEAT THE MIGHTY 970
>>55317263
For £160.
>IT'LL CONSUME 100W
>REALLY
>100W
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>55317259
I'd wait to see how the aftermarket looks tbvh
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOUS TRUSTING THIS SHILLS REVIEW HE BROKE THE FUCKING NDA YEH REEEEALLL TRUSTWORTHY
>>55317246
>1/3 of the power draw
You see you stupid shill, at this point power draw doesn't make any more difference because you're not going to need a new power supply either way because it's so small. So why are you bringing it up? Are you afraid of paying 0.50 cents more on your power bill a year?
>>55317289
Holy shit why are amdfags always so wrong
>>55317262
site is ded
>>55316939
The point is that Nvidia already HAS the same thing on the market except it's better. They also have more powerful cards. AMD's own 390 is also better and the same price.
>>55317263
>Faster than 390
>Faster than 970
>66% performance of 1070 for 52% of the price
easily the highest perf/$ on the market
>>55317289
Holy shit my 1080 only uses 3w more!
>>55317306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GdfDCq86Gk
Linus shit tips.
Don't worry Its Luke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GdfDCq86Gk
>>55317263
OK this benchmark is reassuring. The gap will be closed when the OCing starts
>>55317246
see
>>55317289
I'm not even bringing up power draw but your shitty shilling is becoming more laughable by the minute.
>inb4 you can't possibly draw more than 150w out of a 6 pin connector
Physically a 6 pin and 8 pin connector are basically identical. You can't measure power draw based on how many pins it has, that's theoretical power draw. People have to use oscilloscopes to measure power draw for this reason. A dumb bunch of wires don't magically mean that 150w is the maximum a card will draw.
>>55317262
>http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_rx_480_8gb_review,18.html
So it beats it in every game? The website is taking forever to load (thanks Reddit), but every graph I've seen shows the 480 ahead of the 970.
>>55317299
It's funny, time and again nVidia fans would post about how their power draw being smaller was God's gift to Earth.
Suddenly AMD releases a card with lower power draw and suddenly it's meaningless.
>>55317325
Did you not pay attention to the AMD slides? This card does not OC.
Also, all those other cards are at stock or equivalent.
>>55317263
Oh fuck the hell yes. God bless AMD. I never doubted you except for those few minutes where I doubted you.
Now I can close these 1070 spec tabs.
>>55317325
it runs at 91C with no OC
enjoy your housefires
Holy fucking shit I didnt expect AMD to pull another hd2900
>>55317325
>OCing
It shits itself with a 1.5% overclock, stop this meme.
>>55317336
>suddenly AMD releases a card with a lower power draw
see
>>55317289
>>55317289
AMD is done.
14nm Polaris GPU getting beat out by 28nm Maxwell in efficiency.
>>55317263
How reliable is this?
http://www.3dnews.ru/935382/page-2.html
>>55316321
>It's 10 fps faster than 390 in fallout 4
>practically the same as 980 in Just cause 3
>half the price of 980
>reviewer tried to overclock it on a 430watt psu
There's nothing wrong with it for $200.
>>55317346
You can overclock that 970 25% with no drawbacks.
You can OC that 480 1% and your house will burn down.
>>55317362
I imagine efficiency is completely irrelevant now.
>>55316995
Good lord, these people are either completely idiotic, or undercover Nvidia shills.
What the hell, Leddit...
>>55316580
Yeah, second hand on eBay they;re the same price. Retard.
>>55317343
>>55317348
>>55317355
>buying reference memes
>>55317348
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_rx_480_8gb_review,6.html
83C
970 gets 78C
>>55317380
No drawbacks expect the massive performance drop after the 3.5GB of real VRAM?
Not a chance Shillhouse, you'll never be a meme.
>>55316626
Your 480 price on that site is shite. It's a 195€ card.
>>55317399
Hot AND noisy.
waiting for the 4gb tests
>>55317405
find me where it's 195€ then
>>55317404
>RAM makes it go faster meme
Good goy, pay $100 for 4GB extra VRAM.
0.5 GB of RAM make a card go so so fast.
>>55317382
How the fuck does this happen.
GP104 is 74% more efficient!
At 1.8 GHz!
AMD can't pull it fucking together.
Zen will be a disaster, calling it now.
>o-ok as a poorfag i really wanted AMD to win
>Waited since February last year for a decent line of cards
>Get hyped as fuck by AMD
>get this
FUCKING POO IN THE LOO INDIANDS KILL YOURSELVES REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Figured that AMD would fix this after Fury. Guess not.
>>55316321
but it's for VR!
>The Radeon R9 390 scores a 7.4 in Steam’s VR Performance Test. Radeon RX 480 achieves a 6.6. An old Radeon R9 290 isn’t far off at 6.5. (TomsHardware)
>>55316710
They did beat it. It's compatible performance for half the power usage and half the cost, even at launch. Give it a few months and it'll be even cheaper with better driver support etc etc. All this arguing in this thread I think all the graphics and such show it;'s an incredible card for the money, and those moaning about cards that get 2FPS more than it for almost £100 more are clearly autists that have no idea about value for money.
>>55316547
>80 is slower than 90.
It is just a stupid naming convention, newer series didn't do much performance wise on amd for years.
>>55317423
>14 nm card
>Noisier than maxwells and a 295x2
Please kys all you AMD shills.
>>55317444
I wouldn't be surprised if this kind of stuff is fixable using AMDs new overclocking program thing
>tfw I "accidentally" flashed wrong BIOS on my R9 280
>they couldn't fix it (suprise suprise)
>they gave me R9 390 for about 100$
I am good for now
>>55317210
who this fag?
>sub $200 stock reference rx480 does 3-5fps worse than custom 3rd party OC cards that cost $100-$200 more on nvidia gimpwerkz titles
oy vey amd is shit! buy more nvidia goy!!
>>55316995
You have to go back.
>>55317423
>1dB more than the 970
I can make a higher variation just by moving. 1dB the limit of human audition, it's completely irrelevant. If the 970 was 1dB louder I also wouldn't care.
>>55317437
When your bottleneck is that slow 0.5GB yes it does, moron.
>>55317455
>It's half the size and materials so it's half the cost
HOLY FUCK AMD ARE WIZARDS
>>55317437
You're clearly an idiot so I'll repeat myself.
>the massive performance drop after the 3.5GB of real VRAM
As in when you start using that .5GB your performance drops hard. >>55312958
>these fukkin prices
the 390 it is then.
>>55316783
980 for 1080p gaming is ridiculous. My G1 970 capped all games at 60FPS on my old monitor. now I have a 144hz 1440p monitor and everything still plays between 45-144 frames depending on games. Fully modded skyrim at 1440p gets around 45fps-65fps. A 980 for half the resolution is a stupid suggestion.
>>55317475
>970 0.5gb meme
>Still beats a 480 90% of the time
Again why are you buying anything from this incompetent company?
>>55316626
Which website?
368 $ in my country kek
>>55317475
1dB change is relative to the current dB. +10dB is twice as loud you fucking retard
>>55317478
technically hes right, the price on a chip wafer is fixed pretty much, so the smaller the die, the cheaper it is
>>55317321
Speech slur king presses w on selective level and publishes frap results.
>>55317463
I doubt it.
It's caused by the memory running at full clock when you have 2 or more monitors plugged in. You can force the memory to run at a lower clock, but it ends up causing flickering. Nvidia fixed it with Kepler, but AMD apparently doesn't care about it.
Because of it, my AMD card idles at 65C, and obviously consumes significantly more power than it should.
>>55317492
http://bitcomputer.pl/pl/p/XFX-RX480-8GB-DDR5-BLACK-EDITION-VGA-PCX-/38220
$400 here
beat this
>>55316811
It's slower by 1-2 FPS, and it runs at half the power, quieter, and most importantly - for less money. Seems like a win to me.
>>55317491
fortakas.lt
>>55317479
It's still faster than a 480..... Your VRAM memeing doesn't change anything.
>>55317499
Yes, I know, the Irony is that AMD literally did nothing but save materials costs and the fucking fanboys are crowing about how it's the best thing since sliced bread.
>>55316826
In the UK there's no 390 on the market for £160. They're almost £100 more, for 1-2 fps difference.
>>55317515
as long as they dont jew us the fuck out its fine (see nvidia)
>>55316770
This was my problem with it, had they said "We have a card coming that should be close to 970 performance for $50 less" then I think it would be taken differently, but when they did the 980 comparisons, and DX12 drivers overclock gonna be best card ever BS, well, then it's just a let down and a lie...
>>55317515
Oh yeah, that 23 FPS in GTA V at 1080p sure is super.
It's not like games will use more than 3.5GB of VRAM in the near future, better get this 970 that will perform acceptable for the next week and a half.
>>55317512
a 970 is two years old fucktard, Nvidia doesn't even make anymore, you can get used 970s and still outperform a brand new AMD card. It's literally an embarrassing joke.
>>55317490
>Still beats a 480 90% of the time
Then why does it lose?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_r9_rx_480_8gb_review,18.html
>>55317494
>+10dB is twice as loud you fucking retard
What
Do you know how sound works?
If you don't know what the baseline noise is how can you assert a 10dB absolute increase is a 200% relative increase?
>>55317515
>Yes, I know, the Irony is that AMD literally did nothing but save materials costs and the fucking fanboys are crowing about how it's the best thing since sliced bread.
From an investing standpoint it's a dream come true.
>>55317480
Which site is that,and does it ship outside of Germany?
Kyle was right.
>>55317513
>fortakas.lt
Thanks.
>>55317546
mindfactory.de
Yes. And no import tax if you're in the EU.
I'm disappointed, I expected performance in the middle of a 970 and 980, but it's inferior to a 970.
I'll be getting a GTX 1070, lads.
>>55316922
In the UK, the only chance of getting a GTX 970 for £160 is on eBay, and even then it's not a guaranteed sale for that. Often they're still more, and brand new they're MUCH more. Maybe in US it's similar, but in many places the 970 is still well over priced, and only 3-4 year old used cards hit the price of a brand new RX 480
>>55317527
>they don't jew us
see
>>55317480
>>55317529
>In the future
In the future everyone will buy new graphics cards. Nvidia isn't even making 970s any more. AMD is literally fighting Nvidia's past.
Please stop shilling for them, it's 28nm vs 14 nm and the last gen cards are winning. It's embarrassing and a joke.
>>55317561
wtf dude,220 EURO is too much for you?
>performance between 970 and 980
Yup, that'll be my new card.
POO
>>55316819
Yeah, neat to scroll through and see what games are CPU intensive.
>>55317571
see
>>55317572
It's a r9 280x die shrunk.
>>55316817
Remember all those "relative performance" graphs? Also remember you have to buy two...
>>55317561
how much is shipping to other eu countries? i don't speak kraut
>>55316602
here in germany, the cheapest 480 is 279€ while the cheapest 970 is 238€.
that's 17% more expensive for a mix between 10% more or 15% less performance (depending on the game)
EFFICIENCY
>>55317286
Make that £212 (Amazon)
Jesus
>>55316902
>console SoCs
>mad money
these have like 1% margin brotherino
>>55317427
Aint my job to find a good price for you in your cuck country. it's like moving to AU and saying OMG AMD ARE FINISHED LOOK AT THE PRICES yeah it's because you're in butt fuck no where
>>55317572
kek my 280x gets 60fps 1440p ultra no AA in bf4 dx11
>>55317599
970 is out of production and currently being sold off.
I remember grabbing a 770 4 GB from Mindfactory for 189€ half a month after the 970 was released.
>>55317602
>100 w guys NVIDIA BTFO
>300 w peak
kekking heartily at all the fanboy tears
>>55317599
MSRP for the 4GB variant is 215€
They are only selling the 970 for 238€ because they want to clear inventory
>>55317572
The hawaii cards can run this game with mantle, which is specifically optimized for it, and have much better performance.
>>55317627
does it shit itself with a 1.5% overclock?
Congratulations you've saved $200 for a new graphics card.
96.0C
6
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0
C
>>55317597
It's like 30€ Use google translate.
Worth it if you're buying some other shit with it.
>>55317659
Haha some AMDfag was going on about the 1080 being worse than Fermi because it hit 85 degrees under torture
>>55317636
>300W
Graphs are hard, huh?
It can't even beat my slightly overclocked to 1050Mhz R9 290. Fuck it I'm buying the 1070.
the level of autism in these threads is magnificent
>>55317685
It's the blowback from all the AMD shills hyping for the past 6 months.
>>55317653
>believing some bald youtube shill with some cheap ass PSU
respectable hardware sites are getting 5% OC out of the stock card, which is actually power limited by the 6-pin.
once custom cards with 8pin+6pin release it will overclock like crazy
>>55317685
>u r le autism xD
Wow, that decade-old meme insult sure showed me!
>>55317561
>doesn't ship to Croatia
>>55317681
Can't see the 300W peak?
Are you blind?
Not that it's very relevant.
>>55317532
You can buy a used GTX 770 for £80 if you're lucky. I've had a few. These out perform nearly all of NVIDIAs sub £100 cards new - does that mean all of the latest 950s 960s are also embarrassing jokes? No you autist, it means the only cards NVIDIA have to compete with this are ones that are second had and selling for crazy low prices because the price drops faster on graphics cards than their performance gets obsolete. They have absolutely nothing new, from this year, that gives the performance of this card for the money, or even close. Which means anything building a brand new computer for 1080p or 1440 should get a RX 480, or end up buying a second hand card. Anyone who already has a 970 or something however, no - this is not the card for you, and was never designed to be a card people upgrade from if they already had a £350 card at new a couple years back. Think about what you're saying before you type.
>>55316504
the 8gb will be 300
I can get a 390 for around that price and it will be faster for a long time thanks to the nonNvidiotgimping drivers.
>>55317697
feelsbadman, ak imas rodjaka probaj da mu das pare da kupi, pa nek ti on salje.
>>55316321
So better than the 970? Nice
>>55317022
Bullshit a 390 is about 280 euros while the 480 is 270 in Sweden
>>55317659
>VRMs
Call me when you're not an idiot
>>55316580
>novideoshills actually believe this
My HD 5870 is dying on me.
What to get to replace it? Don't really have brand loyalty, just want what is best for the buck. Up to 300 EUR.
Please advise.
>>55317743
friend got a 2 months old 390 for 190€ on ebay
there are still tons of 390 for 200€ on ebay after 1 second of searching
I've bought a new 290X for 220€ over a year ago
480 is shit even in price, deal with it
>>55317770
rx 480, don't listen to the shills
>>55317648
>mantle
what is this? something like goyworks?
>>55317770
WAIT FOR VEGA!!!11
>>55317816
>WAIT FOR VEGA!!!11
R U A JOKE?
>All these different reviews coming out that are showing results that are FAR too different from each other.
What the fuck is going on.
>>55317533
>i don't know how decibels work
>>55317593
>better efficiency
If I only use a 1080p monitor, will I ever run into problems if I get the 4GB model instead of the 8GB one?
>>55317504
Only happens when you use Monitors with different resolutions.
I can run my two WQHD displays at 60Hz, and memory clocks down as it should, but if I run one at 60Hz and one at 144Hz, it doesn't.
>>55318172
What card are you using?
I've got two 1080p monitors, both running at 60 Hz. Memory clock stays up, if I try to force it to run at a lower clock, I get flickering.
My card is a 5850, so the situation could be a bit different with a less ancient card.
>>55317263
the ol "Relative performance" graph....
>>55318208
Ref 290X with a Accelero IV cooler
Memery always clocks down if both displays run the same resolution and refresh rate.
>>55317770
480 is still a good card for the money, I don't know what these faggot retards are talking about
>>55317138
>http://imgur.com/a/3iTkS
Boost clock, not base clock.
Boost on these things is 1266 anyway.
>>55318502
>>55317794
I understand that. I also understand that right now some benchmarks will be all over the fucking place because of drivers/hardware. I'll just wait a week or two.
>>55317113
But I goofed and upgraded my monitor to 1440p. This ain't gonna cut it.
>>55316969
Yes
>970 performance
>for half the price
I don't understand why you people are mad. Seems good to me
this GPU is fucking disgusting
really lower perf than last fucking gen on 14nm while running way hotter
So which one is better? The 390 or the 480?
The 390 seems to be better in older games but a overclocked 480 is better than the 390X in newer games. They both cost about 280€ in my country
>>55319400
Price/performance is unbeatable for the 480 currently and the difference between a 390 is very minor.
Performance/Watt is above maxwell levels, but not as good as pascal.
>>55317624
Well dunno where he lives, but the situation is the same here in my country.
This 480 will be 200$ in the US, and maybe 1 year later - in the rest of the world too.
>>55317648
>>55317806
Mantle is a proprietary render, like DirectX.
But even after years, it only works with a very few, like 1-2 AMD cards properly, it causes fps loss, stutters, crashes on other cards.
AMD just caved in because it was shite, and gave everything they had to the Kronos group, that's how they made Vulkan basically.
(Which, is awful compared to DirectX. But, is an improvement over OpenGL.)
>>55317648
Uhm no.
They only run in Mantle IF you specify in-game.
I highly doubt the reviewers did that.
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