Let's talk about this shit like reasonable adults and intolerable /v/irgins at least attempting to impersonate reasonable adults.
When will AIB 1070s actually retail for at least only slightly above their MSRP?
>>55308427
Get a 1080
>>55308446
I don't want a 1080.
>>55308427
When they stop selling like crazy which, considering AMD have failed to deliver a compelling alternative, isn't going to be any time soon.
>>55308465
You want two 1080s
Ok, off the new GPU's here
When can i expect things like 750ti's to become sub 80$, and when would 550/560ti's become sub 50$?
im looking at zotac 550ti's or their 750ti's, which are both 60 and 100$ respectively
when it comes down to it, the most demanding game id play is probably terraria or maybe prison architect, my gt430 is holding out just fine but i want a slightly longer term card i can keep for when this one finally poops out
>>55308518
When will gtx680s stop costing A$300+ on eBay ffs. I want to sli.
>>55308490
I... want two 1080s.
>>55308427
not until like august
>mfw
>>55308583
>Not knowing where you are
>>55308427
>posting on a Taiwanese cooking forum
>reasonable adults
In all seriousness this "AMD will BTFO Nvidia" and then "FUCKING NVIDIA SHILLS ARE LYING ABOUT AMD BENCHMARKS" stuff has been going on for at least the 4 years that I've been here and AMD has been cheap garbage every single time.
What would you expect from a board of non-developers who constantly shill for Linux? These people are idiots. Half of them just work in IT.
>>55308427
this fall maybe
>>55308742
>implying more than 25% of /g/ is employed
>>55308478
EVGA will apparently have enough stock for the card to be readily available in July. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=697Fzb5ircM
>>55308518
>When can i expect things like 750ti's to become sub 80$
Probably soon, the RX 460 is only $100 and will probably offer better performance than the 750ti, so its price will be forced down.
>>55308427
Depends on what you mean by "Slightly"
I paid $430 for mine, which is $50 more than MSRP, but for that I got a custom cooler, metal backplate, factory OC, a custom PCB with improved power delivery, and meme RGB lights. That's not too bad for $50 in my opinion.
I do agree that things like the EVGA SC edition that just slap a cheap backplate and cooler on the official PCB for the same price are a bit of a rip-off though.
Keep in mind that the 900 series GPUs are 2 YEARS OLD already, and those are only semi-recently dropping their prices to the baseline MSRP for the custom cooled/clocked versions.
The 1080 definitely has better deals than the 1070 though, probably because the 1080 is in its own performance bracket right now while AIBs still have 980 Tis to sell in the 1070 performance bracket. So I guess the answer is once the 1070 is up to full production and the 980 Ti stock is either gone or on its way out we'll see prices come down.
>>55309077
>I paid $430 for mine
Nice.
Current prices are a little JUST though.
>>55308427
get a 1070 or 1080 aftermarket
amd shat the bed and the 490x wont be out for a while
>>55309218
>Sans Shills
>>55309218
nvidiots belong on /v/
>>>/v/
>>55309077
The 1070 performs about 20% slower than the 1080 and costs about 30% less (I used $430 for the 1070 and $620 for the 1080), so I wouldn't say the 1070 is a worse deal right now. It's still pretty good for 1440p 60fps. The 1080 is in a bit of an awkward position since its overkill for 1440p, and not good enough for 4k.
>>55309238
i have a 390x how am i a shill?
alot of people arnt content with their 960 or 970 980 they might as well upgrade
>>55309255
>Not owning both cards
faghot
brand loyalists are retards
>>55309261
thats what the 1080ti will be for
hopefully they put 16gb of vram on that fucker
My Asus 6850 just died, and I only play TF2 and Eve Online. I should get the RX 480, right?
MSI or Sapphire for the 480?
I don't give a solid fuck about backplates.
>>55309298
>>55309293
480 but get something with a decent aftermarket cooler
>>55309293
Or a 470. IDK how demanding Eve Online is, maybe you could get away with a 460.
>>55309309
That's... That's my fucking question.
I'm getting the 480. I'm asking which fucking brand I should get.
>>55308427
1060 = 470
>>55309298
sapphire
>>55309350
If you can wait for an aftermarket cooler. Just buy reputable brands like asus or sapphire.
I have a 290. is it worth upgrading if I only plan on 1080p and maybe 1440p in a year?
Gaming at 1440P
will the 1070 do it or is the 1080 the way to go if i want over 60 FPS
>>55309350
EVGA
ASUS
POWERCOLOR
stay away from msi gigabyte and anything reference and or cheap.
i got burnt by a 390 msi/gigabyte with the worst cooler ive ever seen the g1 gaming or whatever its called stay the fuck away from it
Be prepared to pay $50 more for a card with a decent cooler though but its worth it.
reference coolers and cheapass loud aftermarket coolers run hot as well fucking shit
>>55309350
Definitely at least get a 480.
>>55309383
even a 390x will easily go over 1080p overclocked
depends on the game obviously
just get a 1070 aftermarket and oc it
>>55309350
sapphire is generally the best cooler for amd
>>55308427
1070's and 1080's will be in full supply once retailers unload the rest of their maxwell stock.
its slowly getting there. went to my local fry's and they were finally out of stock of 980 ti's with only two 980's and zero 970's. none on back order.
>>55309293
480 will be a massive upgrade for you. it be perfect.
What time zone are AMD using for the NDA lift?
>>55309433
how much are they going for there yanky?
here they are still 700-1200aud+
Should I upgrade my 960 to a 980 for 300 bucks?
>>55309467
well 980 ti's were slashed down to the $400's, 980's around the $300's, and 970's around the $200's.
used i've seen 980 ti's going for $200 in my area on craigslist.
i picked up my asus 1080 strix on newegg a week and a half ago for $669.
>>55309488
the RX 480 will be better and cheaper than the 980
>>55309488
300 is a bit steep for 2 year old card
and dx12/vulkan performance is average and nvidia is about to drop support for them and start gimping drivers.
get a 390 or 480 cheap
>>55309511
fuck me thats cheap
>>55309488
no.
get a 480 for $200 since its amd's 980 equivalent or grab a 1070 for $400.
>>55309524
the 1070 wont be that cheap again until fall maybe
>>55309540
>mfw $400 for a midrange card is considered cheap
>nvidia
>>55309540
Why wasn't it 400 in the first place?
>>55309298
Sapphire, but you can't go wrong with either one.
>>55309540
i've been watching them come and go out of stock on newegg the last few weeks in the $400 range.
keep an eye on them with:
>http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/nvidia/gtx1070/
its how i grabbed my asus 1080 strix.
>>55309571
There's one that goes for $399. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125875 And MSI has one for $410
gigabyte g1 1070 in stock on newegg
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125871&cm_re=GIGABYTE_GV-N1070G1_GAMING-8GD-_-14-125-871-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-Veeralava%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6202798&SID=NIS_926
>>55309389
How reliable are Zotac and PNY
>>55308518
perhaps try your luck on ebay or craigslist?
>>55309607
if the cooler and design of the board is good and reviews are good go for it.
cheapest brand ive used was xfx never had a problem never used zotac or pny tho
>>55309605
cooler seems ok 3 fan coolers usually have a good design.
do it
>>55309607
theyre usually badly designed hardware that dies or malfunctions often
most of nvidia's brands are trash tier
>>55309607
>ZOTAC
better than they used to be, still iffy
>PNY
almost as unreliable as HIS. Avoid at all costs.
>>55309188
Keep in mind that those prices are scraped from places like Amazon where assholes that don't even have the cards or managed to order one or more are re-listing them at hundreds more than the actual price to scalp people. Look at the prices e.g. Gigabyte and EVGA list them at and never pay a dime more, because as soon as stock isn't so low that's the price they'll be going for.
>>55309261
Well what I meant by deal was "Cost in comparison to MSRP"
The after market 1080 cards are way more on the MSRP side than the Founders' Edition Price side. Pic related. (See above for the response to absurd Amazon and Newegg third-party listing prices.
>>55309571
because its a paper launch
>>55309724
ill probably get a 1180ti or whatever it is cheap in a couple of years when the aud recovers
no point paying $1400+ for a $600 card
GTX 1070 or RX 480 for 60Hz 1080p?
970 owner here.
>inb4 retard
should I upgrade to something of this gen?
my "1080p overkill card" has struggle running heavy moded skyrim at 1080p, sets at 30,45 fps.
>that's the only reason I am considering upgrade.
nvidia new cards really calls my attention with their "faster than Titan" advertising
>>55310055
3.5 is your issue
>>55310068
Then any card with the same performance but more VRAM will fix that?
>>55310082
>>55310055
wait for vega/1080 price to go down
>>55309820
Its a Ausfags in denial about the value of their currency episode.
Protip just because they are called dollars does not mean prices should be the same as they are in burgerbucks.
>>55310055
>1080p overkill card
Nobody but Nvidia shills said that.
>>55310082
R9 390, RX 480, maybe GTX 1060 if you're a willing to waitfag in the name of brand loyalty.
ok so I just bought the parts for my first custom pc
>i5 6600k
>MSI GeForce GTX 1070 Armor OC
>1080/144hz asus monitor
So will this hit 90+ fps on more demanding games like GTA V or Witcher? Feel like I might've even gone overboard with the GPU
>>55310183
It averages 77 fps in modern games at 1440p, so you can easily hit 90fps by like turning AA down and stuff.
>>55310241
my monitor's only 1080 though. So I was thinking it might be overkill for now. I guess it's a long term investment so I don't mind.
>>55310260
also I should add i've never even seen fps above 60, all my old monitors were only 60 hz. Is it as big a step up from 60 to 144 as 30 is to 60?
>>55310277
It's not that significant, but you still won't be able to go back. You get accustomed to the luxury.
>>55310110
our economy is in the shit and our leaders are retards so yeah
>>55310595
Yeah but at least the internet is bad, it's boiling hot, everything wants to kill you, your freedoms are constantly being trampled on, and a huge portion of your population is undereducated.
Why the fuck do you cunts live there again?
>>55310655
Born here
its literally a prisoner island
I just bought an MSI 1070 and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>55311019
>MSI
I'm not even a little upset, I have no interest in any of their products.
Good for you though.
>>55309077
What did you end up paying after taxes? I just bought an msi gtx 1070 gaming 8g, final price ended up around 481$.
>>55311041
Why? Never had any problems with msi
>>55311198
it is a /g/ popular opinion that MSI is unreliable
>>55311300
/g/ thinks everything is unreliable.
>>55308742
All the engineers at work know literally nothing about computers, I just had to teach an engineer how to replace ram in a cisco 240.
You code monkeys can't even be trusted with root.
>Sysadmin master race
I'm planning on buying a RX480 to replace my HD6870.
I was just wondering if my current specs would be able to handle the card.
i5-760
4GB ram
500W PSU
or should I just save up for a new build? I can build a new rig by december if I start saving up now.
>>55308752
>implying they aren't
i'm implying it's likely more like 35%
>>55311330
/g/ is unreliable
>>55311300
My 2yr old Gigabyte GTX 770 lasted only 2 years. Never even OC'd the bastard beyond the original clocks it came with.
Bought the MSI Gaming X and it feels good mang
>>55312209
Yea start saving. As much as that cpu is rather capable, it will hold back the gpu in any demanding game unless seriously overclocked to compensate.
Plus newer systems now just offer so much more than your first gen i5 setup. Nvme, pcie 3.0, faster sata. Support for faster ram. Vastly better performance for less voltage/heat/noise.
Don't get me wrong I'm all for holding onto a system as long as possible. But first gen Intel stuff is getting rather long in the tooth.
Save and get a 6600k z170 build. If you're not an overclocker, look into an i5-6500 and H170 motherboard setup.
>>55309389
What? The G1 windforce is literally the best performing cooler, what are you on about
Or did it die on you
>>55310052
480 will do
>>55312525
Yeah I figured I should just save up since I don't really have anything to play yet.
I put on a build that I would like to buy by December or January when I get enough cash.
Could you take a look and maybe see if it's any good? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/
I picked the i7-6700 over the i5-6500 for cpu heavy games like arma 3 and gta 5 and because I don't plan on overclocking. No storage too since I'll be using my 1TB from my old rig. PSU and Case is the only option I got since the measurements are exactly what I need to put a gtx1070 in the case.
I'm gonna be staying on 1080p for this build so I hope it'll last me a couple of years.
>>55312665
Shit wrong link. Here's the list http://pcpartpicker.com/list/4BCZ8K
>>55308518
bought a 670 on release. Sell my pc recently$650
check online and realize 670 alone could have sold for 300+
FUCK FUCK FUCK
Real talk.
I have an i7 2600k. If I go with the 1080 am I going be bottle necked by my cpu?
>>55312675
An i7 is a bit overkill for the vast majority of games, an i5 6600k has a much better price/performance. But by the time you buy your computer, Intel's new generation of processors (Kaby lake) will be out and they'll be another 5-10% performance increase over Skylake.
Also, get a z170 motherboard. z170 allows you to use faster ram and to overclock your CPU. The motherboard is the last part you want to cheap out on because its the part that needs to be the most future proof/compatible with future upgrades.
>>55309389
Never buy a 200-300 card with only two fans. Since those cards are crazy heat machines, a 3-fan design is basically essential - Sapphire, 3x windforce.
I'll probably pick one up on black friday or something.
So, I want a 480. Should I go ahead and pick up a reference model, or wait for the 1500Mhz XFX one with custom cooler?
I haven't been able to find anywhere that compares all the AIB cards. My gut says the 1070 Strix is the best one and I've been tempted to buy one a few times but I want to make sure I am not making a bad choice over an EVGA. That's what I've had my last few cards.
>>55309350
Seconding this >>55309425
Whenever I buy AMD I always go with Sapphire.
>>55312818
I actually do these kinds of videos on youtube. The 1070 doesn't have enough reviews to compare yet. I'm making a 1080 vid though, and the 1070 will be there in a few weeks.
>>55312801
You should wait a few more hours for reviews.
>>55312818
From what I've heard, EVGA has the best customer support and makes the best cards, so even if something does go wrong, you're covered. Although I'm tempted to go Asus myself because of the four pin fan connectors on the GPU itself.
>>55312818
I've always go with EVGA. They by far have the best customer service and warranty. I had multiple 570s go bad on me a few years ago, the entire process was a nightmare. I'd get a new one from the warranty and it would artifact straight out of the box. On the 5th card EVGA apologized and upgraded me to a 580 for free. Nice to know some companies actually care about you after the sale is made.
>>55308775
Wow that is damning. The SC is just the fucking FE card. REVOLT
>>55310055
retard
>>55312910
How does "I had multiple 570s go bad" turn into a recommendation to buy a product from this company?
I've RMAd only one card out of 10 I've had over the years - a Galaxy geforce 7600GS in 2006
>>55312958
that's complete bullshit. I get great performance @1080p with a fucking 750Ti FTW and I've got a stupid anime conversion mod that bumps up the texture load even more.
>>55312785 (me samefagging)
By the way, this is my mini ITX build I just did. It's a bit cheaper than your build (~$1000). I went with a 6500 instead of a 6600k because I don't really care about overclocking and saved the $20. And I only went with the FE 1070 because I'm impatient and the aftermarket cards cost just as much, if not more in some cases, and there's like a 5 fps difference when actually in game. If you're building your PC later, get an aftermarket card when the ones that are actually closer to $380 come out.
>>55312785
How much do you think will the Kaby Lake processors cost? Also, I really don't know anything about overclocking so I'm a bit hesitant to buy a K series procie. And if I don't plan on overclocking should I still get a z170 motherboard?
But mow that I know a new generation of processors are coming I think I'll just remove the CPU and MOBO from the list for now and see if the Kaby Lake is any good.
After having owned many video cards from various companies throughout my time building I have come to this conclusion.
>For AMD go to
Sapphire
Powercolor
>Avoid for AMD
XFX
Diamond
MSI
>For Nvidia
EVGA (of course)
Zotac (sapphire sister company)
>Avoid for Nvidia
MSI (unless lightning edition)
PNY
Galaxy (Unless HOF edition)
I have to say both Zotac and Powercolor are underrated companies that pump out some seriously nice products. For instance the Zotac GTX 980 ti Amp! Extreme edition goes toe to toe with HOF from galaxy, EVGA FTW, etc usually for less money.
Powercolor PCS+ cards usually overclock and/or runs as cool just as good as sapphire Vapor-x model.
>>55312987
>Also, I really don't know anything about overclocking so I'm a bit hesitant to buy a K series
Yeah, just go with a 6500 or the 7500 when that comes out.
>And if I don't plan on overclocking should I still get a z170 motherboard?
It's less important in that case, but I think you need a z170 to run DDR4 memory at 3000 mhz, other boards support DDR4 and you can put 3000 mhz DDR4 memory in them, they'll just run at a lower clock speed.
>But mow that I know a new generation of processors are coming I think I'll just remove the CPU and MOBO from the list for now and see if the Kaby Lake is any good.
This is a good idea, worst case scenario you can get a Skylake chip for a bit cheaper.
>>55312978
I heard there were some throttling issues on that motherboard so I picked the MSI over it. Is that true? I think I saw that complaint on newegg.
Also, how soon do you think it would take for AIB cards to come out for the RX 480? Right now XFX is saying mid July, which seems pretty early. But then again I may not know what I'm talking about, this is my first GPU launch really.
>>55312998
I'm sorry but powercolor customer support fucked me and accused me of spilling liquid all over my card based off a picture I sent them for warranty servicing
>>55313024
I have no idea, mine actually came broken and is out for RMA right now... I don't know if that means I just got unlucky, or if Gigabyte has reliability issues.
RX 480 benchmarks when?
>>55312776
>>55313074
NDA lifts in 6 hours 9 minutes.
>>55313029
and how on earth did they reach that conclusion? That and what era of video cards? I've owned 2x r9 290s/390X's from powercolor and had no issues when I had to call support for a BIOS issue.
>>55308490
Only 2? I run quad 1080s
I'm looking to upgrade from my HD 7850, it's starting to show its age.
The GTX 970 looks roughly twice as powerful, and with the 1000 series out now a 970 is pretty affordable.
A 1080 or a Titan would definitely be preferable, but is there anything in the ~$300 range that might serve me better than a 970?
I'm also keeping my eye out for a 980 on the cheap.
>>55313162
why the move to nvidia all of a sudden? And why those cards? I mean the Rx 480 is coming out. like tomorrow. Supposed r9 390 performance. why are you even considering the 970 or non ti 980?
>>55309440
I wanna say 9 est
I remember everyone getting Sapphire x1950 pro because it was the cheapest, not because it was the best. Did Sapphire really get that good over the years?
>>55309553
>1070
>Midrange
Just because it's not the very best doesn't mean it's not high end.
>>55313171
I'm a filthy casual and can't keep up with this stuff, mostly. I only upgrade my GPU every three or so years.
I have nothing against AMD, but the whole internet is abuzz with talk of the 1080 so the charts I've seen reflect that.
I'll check out the RX480.
>>55312776
You'll be fine, don't worry about it.
>>55313162
I'd personally look out for a used 980ti. My roommate was able to get one off craigslist for $350. 980ti is still a damn nice card.
>>55313202
They had a good run with the R9 200 series where their coolers were actually the best around. Even on the HD7000 they were usually the cheapest and their Dual-X coolers performed quite well albeit they were a bit croaky.
Any idea where a 480 might be in stock tomorrow?
>>55313142
>not going for a 5-way SLI setup
What are you, a pleb?
fucking /v/aggots
>>55312998
For Nvidia cards, Palit and Gigabyte are also decent manufacturers prodcuing GPUs with the highest factory OC out there. Gigabyte ones tend to have a shorter life span, which is explicable considering the clock rates.
>tfw my MSI 1070 will probably arrive in next month because literally everyone wants their 1070 form them here.
EVGA and Asus doesn't even exist here kek.
600W for this beast and a i5 6600k will be enough r-right?
How are Powercolor's Devil cards, they're supposedly working on a RX 480 version.
>>55313481
Mine runs fine on my 500w power supply, you'll be A-OK.
>>55313124
I had a 7970, I told them there was a burning smell and I shut off my PC immediately. I told them the PCB looked to have melted a little bit. They asked me to send them pictures. I did send them pictures and then they accused me of spilling a liquid on the card. If I spilled liquid on the card what the fuck wouldn't I wipe it off? How does liquid cause scorch marks on the PCB and warping? When I explained this to the tech, he told me it doesn't matter because my request for service had been denied and to not contact them again about the card. I ended up selling it on Ebay for $80
Will AIB cards save the 480? Reference cards aren't looking too good at the moment.
>>55313971
XFX appearantly has one running a 1500Mhz in the works. We'll probably start seeing those cards next month, right?
>>55312958
So if i found a way to lock the card at only 3.5gb, will this fix the problem since the card won't try to use the low memory bus 0.5gb?
Do EK, Bitspower or Heatkiller have plans to make 480 blocks?
>>55314228
It will stop games from using the slow .5gb so... yes? It's a "fix". We should still be upset as consumers and I wouldn't recommend buying a 970.
>>55314257
Word is EK do. Then again EK make blocks for everything (they even made a block for a gtx 750).
>>55313162
For what its worth a 290x is roughly on par with 7870 crossfire.
>Nvidia
wow
>>55314270
It's somewhat cheaper than the R9 390 in my country.
Do i really have a better option? I'm mostly looking toward the next elder scrolls so AMD is at a disadvantage here.
>>55312972
He didn't say all of the 570s were from EVGA, only the last one was. And after it broke EVGA sent him a 580 for free so that's a pretty good recommendation honestly.
Looking to upgrade my GTX 460. Not really in a hurry. Will next year's batch of GPUs with HBM2 be worth waiting for, or should I just upgrade now?
>>55314542
What resolution will you be playing at after this upgrade?
>>55314542
My 6.5 year old 768MB GTX 460 just died a month ago so i'm waiting for post rx480 prices to buy a 970, if i were you i'd wait though.
>>55314568
1080p, but I'm looking at getting a high refresh rate monitor. Would also like to be above absolute baseline for VR when I eventually get a headset.
>>55314599
Hmm well that is a tricky choice. You need a lot of horsepower to push 120fps+ even at 1080p but equally you are still going to be gimped by your cpu (1080p still has the cpu being a large factor on performance, unlike 4k where no gpu is fast enough to make the cpu matter).
>>55313481
its fine, most people vastly overestimate power consumtion. pc's get more efficient over time, not less. with 600w you can run anything on a one GPU system, even a 1080. i'll be running i7 6700k + 32gb + 1080 on 650w
>>55314650
Imagine a 9590 and msi 390x on 600w - I wouldn't want to stress test that system.
>>55314573
not him, but how long after rx480 prices are you going to wait for the 970? Are the 970s going to get a price drop within the next few months?
I think I'm willing to wait at least until Black Friday. It's a long time though, not sure I can last another month of not being able to try Overwatch.
>>55313481
You could run two 1080s on a 600W PSU.
A single 1070 is nothing.
The 980ti sells for fucking 430 euros. It used to go for 700+ during its time.
Not sure how to justify not getting one over a 1xxx series. I hear the power efficiency on the new cards is much better which is a great deal to me because I prefer small heat output when playing games. How dramatic is it
Has anyone fitted aftermarket water loop to a gigabyte G1 390x with the windforce cooler on it?
are they reference pcb?
I was thinking about the kraken g10 as I've seen it fitted to a 390 and was wondering if it would work for me, can't find anyone who has done it though.
card gets super hot since going 4k
>>55314755
I'll probably won't be able to hold it for more than 2 weeks from now.
Hopefully it will have some impact by then.
This guy should be arriving today.
My 7870 is hitting like 15fps average on maxed out tomb raider rising, DX11 1080p so I'm very keen to compare
so how important are brands of AIB suppliers?
usually I'd go for a more known company but with the gtx 1080 there's a >100€ difference between kfa2 (which I've never heard of before) and MSI.
>>55308427
I used to repair PCs. Dont buy zotac and/or xfx brand cards.
Every single on of their cards I've had has failed prematurely.
GTX 680 AMP died after 18 months
GTX 770 1 year dead
GTX 980 starting to stutter and die after about a year
HD4850 11 months
5970 16 months
7950 1 year
I have an evga and an msi GTX 460 that have lasted me since release. Asus is only good on the high end. Gigabyte avoid like the plague. No I dont OC any of the cards, because my customers dont wanna waste their warranty.
>>55315220
The thing is it is not 100% consistent. The same AIB supplier can have a really amazing model for 390 but forget to install the cooler properly for its 390X counterpart. Of course, there are brands that are more consistent than others but the only way to be kind of sure is to wait for the AIB model to be out for a few weeks and read through dozens of pages of "XXXX owners" threads on big hardware site forums. Eventually people there figure out which have coil whine, which have shitty VRM cooling, what are the noise/temp levels etc.
I guess the go-to brands would be Sapphire, EVGA, MSI lightnings
>>55315556
>MSI lightnings
There is a reason why the lightnings are seen as basically the best version of a chip you can buy - nobody else has a pcb (pssibly with the exception of some palit cards) that can handle the sort of power draw extreme overclocking needs. The 290x lightning was a fucking beast as long as you kept it cool.
Ironically the best option for most lightnings is to rip the cooler off and stick a block onto it.
>>55309293
You can run eve on an i5 integrated. Just put it into potato drive.
>>55308427
I live in Ireland so everything is much more expensive than in the US. I can currently get ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1070 AMP Extreme pic related for €468. Will the price ever become much lower than that for europe? Will the price drop when the rx 480 is out or will it ever even reach closer to €400? Im gaymen at 1440p so the rx 480 is no option.
>>55316387
Don't worry, after brexit you'll have trouble affording shoes so worrying about which GPU to get will never happen
>>55316455
ha no the more the pound drops the cheaper the gpu Ill be able to get, the only reason I can get one for 468 right now is because of the pound dropping in value
>>55308427
Newegg already has a 1070 for $400, and it even has a decent cooler on it.
Is the 1070 still a bit gimped in DX12?
Seems like there's no good options for people on mITX
The older AMDs are too hot but they are better for late 16/2017 onward games
>>55316499
That's not actually how currency works, lad.
Unless you get paid in dollars
>>55316558
I said I live in Ireland and use ther € not the £ so that is exactly how it works
>>55316628
But the euro tanked too
how is the right better than the left
>>55316666
quads, also the euro tanked less than the pound so it still works out in my favour, anyway Im not here to argue politics, I just wanted to know if the ZOTAC GeForce® GTX 1070 AMP Extreme is worth buying for €478 now or else how soon/ how much will it drop in price? I dont see it ever dropping below 400 for europe and 67 isn't worth that much to me
Alright. The r9 390 or the 970?
I'm leaning towards the 390 right now because I'd get a free TW warhammer copy.
>>55316748
970 runs worse than the 750Ti in some applications. >>55312958 >>55312975 3.5GB of VRAM is enough but the problem is when you start using the last .5 performance takes a dump.
>>55316738
Yeah it's pretty decent for that price.
Don't expect it to get below 400 euros until next year
Or ever if AMD collapses
>>55316892
Im thinking of picking it up but it doesnt start shipping for a week so I may as well wait a week before buying it. Ive heard Zotac cards have high failrates though are the extreme amp versions any good? it has a base clock of 1607 which is one of the higher ones for 1070s
>>55316670
Well it costs less but aren't evga fans notoriously loud?
I got the MSI g1 gaming 1080 in the mail the other day and it's good for playing video games with :3
>just bought a RX 480
I needed an upgrade from my 290. Blower would work better with this case anyway.
Too bad about the [spoiler]AUStax[/spoiler] though.
So, where are the non-fake benchmarks now? Are they out yet?
Would a 1070 run the new Deus Ex any better than an RX 480?
It's the main game of 2016 I'm looking forward to, and it's a DX12 game afaik
Read anandtech's 480 review, going through techreport's right now. Not bad I think. Gap is smaller than I initially expected, but is overall slightly faster than the 970, sucks it still can't beat the 390 though.
Nonetheless I'll wait for AIB's before deciding if I upgrade from my 760
>Was about to bit the bullet for a 1070 since I'm tired of using integrated graphics since my last card died
>Select next day shipping on newegg
>Estimated delivery date is three weeks from now
>Free shipping is a month
What the fuck Newegg?
I'm about to sell my 280x and wait for a good deal.
Meanwhile I'll be stuck with integrated graphics on an i5 4460 (4600 hd).
Now, I have this spare 6850 around somewhere. Should I bother using that?
Anybody see some good Crossfire benchmarks for the Rx480? Curious how it stacks up against the 1080
>>55317357
of course
Genuine question, is important to overclock if I have a 970?
>>55309350
Sapphire for AMD, EVGA for Nvidia is what I always choose
>>55309488
no
personally I would never ever upgrade to a card in the same gen, thats madness. you should have just got a 970 or something in the first place
>>55309571
nvidia rushed the launch with no stock
maybe in a two months or so the AIB's will be going for the msrp of $379
>>55317357
DX12 runs much better on AMD so it should beat the 980 easily, but yeah a $400 card will run it better than a $200 card. Also depends on your resolution, the 480 will most likely max it out 1080p/60fps. 1440p may be a different story.
>>55320890
It does better than the 1080 on DX12 titles, worse on DX11 titles.
>>55321042
if you aint getting the performance you would like in some games a free 10-15% boost can help
I dont bother oc'ing my 980 since it runs mostly everything at 100fps at 1080p anyway
How long until water blocks come out for the 480?
>>55316670
>Better Fans
>Better Manufacturer
and in my personal opinion
>Better Software
Other than that the MSI card is probably faster and has better power delivery since that model has a custom PCB I think
EVGA, MSI Armor or Zotac for 1070?
Upgrading from a 960 and using a 1440p
>>55321766
I've never gone wrong with an EVGA or MSI, it'll probably come down to whatever one looks better to you.
Okay so I didnt want to create a new thread so Ill ask here.
I have 270x right now, and I wanted to upgrade it. I was waiting patiently for rx 480 but its not THAT great, sadly I have only 1500 shekels in my currency, its around 370USD // 340EUR // 280Pound.
Which GPU should I get, is the only option 480?
>>55323401
I just realized this thread is quite old Ill just make new one.
>>55312958
>I'm retarded the post
>>55312978
>430 watt psu
watt
>>55308742
I want to make a build for 1080p 144Hz gaymen.
Would a 1070 be overkill?
>>55308427
>hen will AIB 1070s actually retail for at least only slightly above their MSRP?
Right now?
The Gigabyte one is 399.
If you find it of course, it's sold out everywhere.
What card should I buy to max out Oblivion and Rome Total War 1?
>>55324160
750 Ti.
>>55324160
Intel has got your back.
>>55324199
Only if he overpays for one of their meme cpus.
Quite honestly an i7 with more than 4 cores is the most retarded thing I've heard ... well not as retarded as AMDs cpus but pretty retarded.
Is it just me or did the prices of 1070s jump again when the disappointing RX 480 benchmarks came out.
>tfw going from a 1080 @ 60hz TN panel to a 1440 @ 144 IPS panel on friday, with a G1 1080, can't wait to play Witcher 3 on that setup, gonna be glorious
