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I love these reminders!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>55294811
>>>/v/
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>>55294826
>nvidia shill redirecting others to /v/
wew lad
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>sexy blower
fuck, if only blower style coolers weren't loud or hot.
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>>55294840
I have never even owned an nvidia card you mongoloid
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>>55294856
Then you have extreme autism so thanks for confirming
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>>55294868
I've had a 2006 iMac with an X1600, everything else was integrated
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New command processor should give better DX11 performance unlike previous AMD cards.
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>>55294897
>macfag
>redirecting people to /v/
>>>/lgbt/
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>>55294916
I KNEW this would be the next post. Literally fuck off of /g/
Plus,
>implying that I am still a Macfag
Kill yourself while you're at it
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SO fucking hyped!
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>>55294945
>lying about having a mac so you could 1 up yourself
sounds to me like you have severe aspergers
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>hyped about 970 performance
>2016
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>>55294979
go back to /v/ and bitch about manlytears or whatever you /v/irgins talk about on that containment board
>>>/v/
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>>55294979
$200
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>>55294979
>hyped about 980/fury performance
>2016
ftfy
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>>55294970
Seems to me that you lack reading comprehension. I still have the mac but the screen is not usable anymore, I don't have an iPhone and I have an HP laptop.
To stay on topic, fanboys have hyped the RX 480 way too much, it's just going to be a cheaper introduction into VR and for 1080p, nothing really that amazing to spam these threads hourly
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>>55295022
>>>/lgbt/
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>>55294845
Add in power hungry and you're talking about all AMD cards in general lol
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>>55294811
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUG6Ae10yOQ
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>>55295050
newfag go back to /v/
>>>/v/
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>>55295050
>polaris
>power hungry
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>>55294992
LOL

Stay strong tomorrow. It's gonna sting when you see that card outperformed by a 970
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>>55295072
We'll see
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>>55295079
go back to /v/ and bitch about manlytears or whatever you /v/irgins talk about on that containment board
>>>/v/
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>>55295093
you're right, i suppose i should stay unbiased.
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>>55294845
my 660 ti is barely audible while playing Overmeme.

dunno how bad non-custom coolers are. Mine is an EVGA card.
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tech newfag here

sorry I dont know too much about graphics cards and am in the market for probably about a gtx 960 or 970.

I just saw this being posted all over the board.

Everyone I talk to always just tells me to go to ignore amd/radeon but after reading these threads im curious about this one

what kind of stand out differences are there between this and a 970?
performance wise are they roughly the same or is this one to be superior in small way?
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Why do people want to buy reference cards? You guys never owned a GPU before or something? Reference cards are not worth it 100% of the time. Wait for Sapphire, MSI, and the rest of the gang.
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>>55295200
Gist of it is that the Rx 480 is at minimum GTX 970 performance, the 480 is cheaper, uses less energy and is more future proof.
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>>55295261
thanks I guess Ill buy one tomorrow when its out.
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>tfw it will probably cost 300€ in yuropoorland
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>>55295261
"Rx 480 is at minimum GTX 970 performance"
Exactly this, for $199
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>>55295261
>>55295315
if this thing is as good as you say it is for its price. where will they be available to purchase cause im gonna guess its gonna sell out in a 5 minutes
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>>55295344
I don't think so. AMD seems to have a good batch of stock. It won't be like the 1080/1070 stocks. If it sells out then don't stress it. Just wait for the aftermarket ones that will have better cooling and performance.
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Is there any actual evidence that AMD is going to provide decent Linux drivers for the RX 480, particularly at launch? It sounds like a great deal; performance of a 970 (or better) for $200 with lower temps, but if you have to rely on potentially sketchy drivers that may or may not even be available at launch, I'll have to pass. Dual booting Win7/Xubuntu has worked really well for me for the last few years, and I'm not interested in changing that arrangement.
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>>55295506
Did you check AMD GPU-PRO

http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDGPU-PRO-Beta-Driver-for-Vulkan-Release-Notes.aspx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOBNfsdZV-o
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>>55295344
These things are gonna be mass produced
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IT'S OVER THE 480 IS FINISHED
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>>55296019
>founder's edition $380
>only five per state
get hype
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>>55296044
>five per state
lol
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>>55295315
You do realise that the value of the 900 series cards is going to crash once the 1060 is available in stores right?
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>>55296019
>Coming september
lol nope
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>>55296044
>>only five per state

Zozzle
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>>55294897
>mac
I think you should look into >>>/lgbt/ thats the right board for you.
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>>55296019
>with yields nvidia has on the 10XX series the 1060 gonna be a collectors item.
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>>55294945
>Shitposter is surprised that his post is answered with more shitposting
Wait what?
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>overhyped

>>55297947

>>55297947
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>>55297024
kek
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Does anyone remember the exact time and date the NDA should lift?
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>>55294826
Literally why

GPU's have important features that extend beyond video games

>>>/lgbt/
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Any sights on any of the aftermarket cards?
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>>55295261
980 performance, less power, cheaper, has actual dx12 support and comes with real 4gb or 8gb memory. The 970 is a horrible card because of the 3,5gb drama.
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>>55298007
>fake Polish benchmarks posted by an untrustworthy magazine
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>>55294907
Not better dx11 perf but better sub pixel tessellation culling that amd never had and thus gonna smoke many nvodiots cards with gameworks
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>slower than a 970
top kek

"According to the review, 5% overclocking causes severe artifacts in 3DMark, while 7% overclock causes system to freeze. Not a word about drivers uses though."

http://videocardz.com/61512/first-radeon-rx-480-gaming-benchmarks-hit-the-web
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF1j4pz6DbU

There are benchmarks appearing. 100-200 fps @ max settings "Just Cause 2".
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>>55295315
good luck with that mate
http://www.overclock.net/t/1603915/polaris-owners-thread/20
and with an old driver
lel
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Remember folks. a little over a year until final 14/16nm cards are released!

1180 Ti/titan V GP100 (1k/700$)
1180 - GP102 (600$) (same as 1080 Ti)
1170 GP102 cut (400$)
1160 GP104 (new stepping 1080 for under 300$)
1150 GP106 (100$) (same as 1060)

Fury 2(3) and Fury X 2(3) or new name Vega 11
RX590 Vega 10
RX 580 Vega 10 cut
RX 570 (p10) (new stepping of 480)
RX 560 (p10 cut) (new stepping of 470)
RX 550 (p11) (will be in zen APUs with 2/4GB of HBM) (next stepping of 460)

(naming schemes may change but chip heirarchy listed will not)


This will be an important time for GPU's as console graphics will be ported over at 5Tflops due to p10 increasing necesary specs for new games.

After this, we get to welcome our new 7/10nm overlords!

screencap this and open it in a year when the prophecy comes true.
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>>55303052
the fuck is that list? where did you even get those lol they dont even make sense
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Fuck, I can't wait. My finger is hovering over the buy button for a full build with this GPU. Hoping that the reviews are not shit or i'm gonna have to call it off, which would suck.
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>>55296341
when does the 1060 come out?
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>>55303052
Waitfags are not going for that. They're buying now.

The ones who bought last-gen will be the new waitfags.

So GTFO or get BTFO
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>>55295022
>>>/lgbt/ , you'll feel right at home
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>>55303141
so waitfags cant wait a day righttt...lol
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>>55295315
but I can get GTX970 for less than that for half a year now when bought used.
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>>55296019
Forced to use gsync for adaptive sync no thanks
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>>55303108
2 to 4 weeks, shitty availability

source: some czech nvidia guy on pctuning.cz
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This will be, bar none, the worst video card in the history of mankind.
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>>55303250
its expected every single nvidia card is a A revision meaning is a eng sample...
if you see 480 its a C one... amd is working on this shit for a long LONG time to get it right
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>>55295093
Wtf do you mean we will see
It can't go over 150w ever....
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>>55303141

Of course, I'm not advocating waiting for a GPU release. a year on one card is good enough to justify the expense especially if you're still on 1080p resolution,and especially if it's a 200$ card for the RX 480 or (eventual) 350$ for the GTX 1070.

>>55303085

It makes perfect sense, the generation after this will be mostly be rebrands save for the top-end. the current stack will move down with new steppings allowing higher clocks on existing architecture. so the 1160 (or so) will out-perform the 1080 despite having the same on-paper specs by a few percentages.

The only assumption being made is that Vega 11 will outperform the GP102 chip thanks to HBM2 and 6000+ stream processors= Nvidia will, in that case, be forced to release a consumer version of the GP100 (currently $15K with many professional elements that won't be present on the consumer GP100) which also has HBM2. AMD could screw this up though, and in that case there would be no GP100 consumer chip, as Nvidia doesn't care to release new consumer cards unless they feel threatened

Vega 10 (aka flagship of the 400 series) will most certainly crush the GP104 chip that is in the 1080/1070. Nvidia will announce the 1080 Ti and the GP102 titan a few days before the release of Vega 10. That's already known by AMD and nvidia as Vega 10 is a 400mm+ design, even if AMD were to completely fuck up the architecture it would beat the GP104 chip, which is around 300mm
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>>55303362
card has a 6pin only
nvidiots going crazy 300terrawatts
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>>55303277

Hope not. Really dont want to have to get nvidia again
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>>55303362

The reference card can't go above 150w. that does not mean that a non-reference card won't allow for 225 or higher with another 6-pin or 8-pin connecter.

Of course, the reason the AMD decided to release the 480 with only one 6-pin was to showcase how efficient it is. However, there are tons of consumers who would happily trade an extra 50-75 watts for an extra 10% performance. It still wouldn't beat the 1070 but it would come close. That's assuming the p10 can clock higher with more voltage, and it isn't restricted architecturally
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>>55303417
They're super butthurt and trying to spin everything to fit a fanboy narrative.
The RX 480 with a little OC pulled 147w in Furmark, in typical gaming workloads its about 100w or less.
Speaks volumes to how well the arch scales down in clocks, which is no wonder why Apple bought Polaris11 and 10 GPUs for new products. I wouldn't be surprised if they could fit a full Polaris 10 die under 75w at 800mhz.

The GPU does exactly what AMD said it would, and thats offer entry level VR performance at a low price point. No sane person can be mad at that.
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>>55302832
Stop false flagging.
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>>55303527
Oh no having a high on steam vr bench isnt really entry level..

http://www.overclock.net/t/1603915/polaris-owners-thread/20

i told that before the card is gonna smoke a lot of nvidia ashes on dx12.. especially 1070...
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>>55303527
>The GPU does exactly what AMD said it would, and thats offer entry level VR performance at a low price point

and the 970/390 are also entry level vr cards and are way cheaper in the uk. amd fucked their global pricing once again.
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>>55303580
>i told that before the card is gonna smoke a lot of nvidia ashes on dx12
You mean only in AOFTS? A game that pretty much nobody plays
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>>55303580
even your new god adoredtv has calculated it to be slower than a 1070. quite significantly slower.
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>>55295315

970 was launched in 2014. It's ancient and it's pretty shameful display from AMD if they can't clearly beat it.
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>>55303580

>ashes
>DX12

Can't wait to play all 11 DX12 games!

pascal fixed maxwells DX12 slowdown issues, just like polaris fixed hawaii's DX11 slowdown issues.

As a current GPU owner of a 970/980 or 390/390x, the only reason to upgrade is for lower electrical bill or maybe lower heat if you have a fucking furnace for a GPU (290/390 owners).

Performance will be fine for 200$, it's great for anyone who has less than that, but if you have a 970/980 or a 390/390x and you're happy, why would you upgrade?

Especially you fucking idiots still on 1080p@60fps. There is literally one game I can think of that drops those cards below 60fps and it's a shit gimpworks game anyway.

1070/1080 are cards for 1440p@140fps or 4K@30fps

there's literally no reason to upgrade from those cards if you have a 1080p screen and don't plan to upgrade in the next 2 years. Just sit on what you have and be happy for once in your god damn life.

I can see why some 380 or 960 and below owners might want to upgrade to the rx480 though
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>>55303642
that's the only relevant game in the world though for amd shills. they discard any benchmarks of witcher 3, fallout 4, rise of the tomb raider etc even though these are the most played games in the world and are all goty winners/nominees because of muh gameworks. they purposely cuck themselves by buying hardware they know will perform shit in the latest and biggest games compared to the competition and then blame their buyers remorse on everyone except themselves and amd.
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>>55303744

for comparison here's my OC 980
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>>55303664
yeah no shit i have yet to see a 1070 on aots tho..
oh wait......

>>55303721
pascal actually didnt fixed anything they just cranked up the clock and its using brute force on async
hence the regression you still see on higher resolutions due to the fact that it doesnt have any sort of hardware sc
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-05/geforce-gtx-1080-test/11/#diagramm-ashes-of-the-singularity-async-compute
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there's a livestream on AMD's youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErYurM1cQYc

went there to check if there were any news (no sub) and found it playing live. The weird thing is that it appears to be a new game showcase, not something related with the Rx480.
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>>55303744
>>55303788
bu----but today we learned 480 is behind a mere 970! now you heretics are saying that you will need a highly clocked 970 to actually reach it while its on 980 levels?
SHAME ON YOU to bring this kind of apocalypse to nvidiots /s
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>>55303615

>in the uk

Not our fault you decided to Brexit and rekt the £.

970/390 are old stock but importing 480's will be more expensive now.
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>>55303527
Delete this
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>>55303744
>>55303788
>i3 in one test, i5 in the next
good job
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>>55303788
i posted my 980 in another thread before with the firestrike benchmarks.

core clock is 1364 mhz.
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>>55303842

why are you looking at anything but graphics score homie
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>>55303831
lotsa russian dudes on the chat also.
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do I get this or the 1070, holy fuck what do I do?
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>>55303842
>being this retarded

you should be looking at the graphics score, retard. these are gpu specific tests which stress the gpu only.
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>>55303873

they arent in the same tier at all

big gap in price and performance
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>>55303873
31 hours till the nda ends..
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>>55303836
all the more reason to wait for the 1060. nvidia prices won't be stupidly high over here like amd is. the 970's were always cheaper than 390's here up until like 2 weeks ago. now they're about the same but i expect the 1060 to be slightly cheaper than the 480 just like with the 970.
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>>55303831
is downl1nk one of those twitch celebs or something?

I have no knowledge of twitch streamers. Why would he be playing live on amd channel?
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>>55303894
You failed math didn't you?
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>>55303893
will the 480 play all my games maxed out at 1080p?
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>>55303873
You mean 480 or 970, right? The 1070 would wipe the floor with the 480 and it costs like twice as much. A better comparison would be a single 1070 vs 2x480 in CF.
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>>55303917
slightly cheaper than 480 thats a good one
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>>55303949

dont know, 980 runs most games at max or near max at 1080p/60fps but not everything

if 480 is a bit worse then nah
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>>55304001
why would anyone want this card then?
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>>55303801
pascal has a much better method of preemption for handling async tasks compared to maxwell. this improvement can be seen in a few games. it's not a major upgrade but it's better.

>hence the regression you still see on higher resolutions

you clearly don't know what you're talking about. the fury x naturally takes the lead in higher resolutions due to its immense memory bandwidth. hence why it can catch up from being like 15 fps behind the 980 ti at 1080p to matching it at 4k. gddr5 is a massive bottleneck for higher resolutions hence why g5x is being adopted in the short run before hbm2 can be mass produced.

async =/= anything resolution

go back to paying your debts, please.
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>>55304015
anything resolution related*
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>>55304010
They're poor and sick of waiting
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>>55303801
>mah async, mah async
>literally mah dick
async ainh shit if your card is crap. if your card is getting 30fps in dx12, 10% boost from async is 3fps more.
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>>55304015
do you even know what preemption is for?

you need to understand the difference between
preemption
async compute
and
async timewrap
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>>55304010
Because it's only $200 and it'll probably perform well in DX12 and Vulkan. Pretty much all the leaked benchmarks are DX11.
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wood screws
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>>55295315
Graphics card are tax deductible so just buy what you want anon
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If i got one of these, i wonder what adapters are in the box, cos id prefer some dvi dual links over display port
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>>55294811
>Buying an AMDrone cuck poorfag card

Literally fuck off with that shit waste of money, Only poorfags would waste money on a shit card that barely performs at the same level as the r9 380

You should have gotten a real card that actually works, like the 1080, the MOST powerful card ever made. And fuck AMD, the only shit they have to try and compete is the fucking fury, which barely even comes close to the 1070 in terms of performance, OH and guess what, it's over five HUNDRED dollars, which is a fucking joke considering the 1070, which is better, only costs 375$, and performs better than three of these shit fucking poorfag 480's

>inb4 muh temps
>inb4 muh price
>inb4 muh powerdraw

a 450 watt tpd doesn't mean shit, and most modern cards (Except for AMDrone cards) are designed to perform at well above 100c

fuck off
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>>55304052
You really enjoy pulling numbers out of your ass
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>>55304055
as you have just proved, you can't refute my claims. go back to watching adoredtv. he's probably your only other source other than amd shill forums.
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>>55304114
seen this 10 times so far. zzzz
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>>55304052
yeap you are totally right meanwhile when the devs talks you better shut up

https://twitter.com/dankbaker/status/740018278572118017

https://twitter.com/dankbaker/status/738444074718531584

but go ahead i bet your knowledge around superscalar desings is vastly superior to them lol
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>>55304118
>>55303664
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>>55304073

all of the benches so far are 8GB version which is $240 because 4GB version is coming later

$240 for 8GB reference 480 vs $250 for 8GB AIB 390

both perform roughly the same, 480 is cooler
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>>55304141
>oxide games

hmm, i wonder who sponsors them? it can't be a company that heavily shills for async, can it?

oh wait
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>>55304119
you said fury x wins on higher resolutions because of hbm....

now scale it back to every amd card with its own competitors

can you say they too have hbm? no? what is that? silence? hmmm...
the reason amd is good on dx12 is because they DO have a dynamic hardware sc something nvidia threw it out of the window in favour of muh perf per watt and dx11 wasnt demanding for them
but now that shit hitted the fan sine august we know already that maxwell 2.0 had a small arm chip that was handling the requests to the gigathread engine...(thanks to beyond3d)
>>55304175
oh wait there are devs from 4 diff companies and you just choose dan baker
hmm what that does tell about someone i guess you cant really pick tiago since he works for epic and thus is a nvidia infested company now can you...
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I've been you morons to not overhype the Rx480. But you said to go on and on how it it would stump the 980Ti's for 1/3 of the price and now and the first benches start to leak they will look weak when comparing with the 970's.

Guess what they aren't supposed to compete with those either. It's sits on the x60 price tier and has x60 performance capabilities.

It's probably Nvidia novel shillery [and a couple of uncautious red hatted fanboys] trying to shift the perspective of where this card truly stands -to make you lose sight of it leaving you with a bitter taste when a budget card becomes underwhelming versus twice and thrice higher tiered ones.
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How come people refuse to believe that nvidia is cucking them? Do they honestly think 900 or 600 or even fucking 400 is the cheapest nvidia could possibly do?
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>>55304199
>you said fury x wins on higher resolutions because of hbm....

and you think it doesn't win because of hbm and having a higher memory bandwidth? ok, nice delusion.

>now scale it back to every amd card with its own competitors

same story. all amd cards in the 300 series have a higher memory bandwidth compared to the nvidia cards.

gtx 970 = 224 gb/s
r9 390 = 384 gb/s

same for the 980 and 390x. that's over 100 gb/s extra bandwidth. you're honestly deluded if you believe the amd cards win at higher resolutions (albeit by like 2 fps) due to async compute. it's all down to the bandwidth.
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>>55304234
Sure thing it was nvidia shilling of 1600mhz clocks and awesome oc potential. Not to mention it also nvidia who kept producing the graphs showing it close to 980ti and AdoredTV is also on nvidia payroll
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>>55304289

how much an AMD card that matches the 1080 cost?
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>>55304175
AMD has 2 and a half games under Gaming Evolved platform. Nvidia has 6 quintillions.

>zmog guise, so unfair. look AMD foul play trying to shove benches for games they've optimized and polished for their own cards. We can't take those benches seriously!11!!!!!

>Now let's look at the abridged 20 games consolidated average scores (19 of which twimtbp)
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>>55304289
nobody is saying shit about this, everyone is mad that amd bait and switched yet again, which enables nvidia to keep its overpriced cards,
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>>55304312
It's always Nvidia's fault, never AMD's fault for putting out shit cards, or AMD fanboys fault for overhyping them
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>>55304234
Seriously these retards were saying it beats a 980.

Turns out it can't even beat a fucking 970.
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>>55304325
and amd keep shilling and comparing same old games with nvidia hardware instead of compared its own cards old gen, oh wait... that would brake its narrative..
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>>55304348
Lol, there were even plenty of threads suggesting it would beat a 1070, it was hilarious
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>>55304364
i remember those fuctards yelling at oc it can match stock 1070
>kek
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>>55304312
I have no idea who adoredtv is and he matters but only morons would believe those graphs.

But I was kinda hopeful for the 1.6 OC's. The latest leaks are suggesting that 1.4 could be the ceiling, for ref cards, that is.
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>>55304314
We will tell you next year goyim. But if you like xfire, $400
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LETS GO BOYS
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What does did mean?
http://www.overclock.net/t/1603915/coming-soon-unofficial-polaris-owners-thread/40
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>>55304381
leaks are suggesting that anything barely over 1.3 ghz is the ceiling and anything over causes crashes. i've seen 2 different sources saying that compared to the 1 wccftech article claiming it can hit 1.5/1.6
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>>55304304
lol and im here trying to understand how something that is related to parallerism has anything to do with a card having bigger memory bandwidth...

literally /g/ is going to devalue einstein theory of everything in order to make nvidia be on a better spot..

let me tell you again
async has nothing to do with memory bandwidth its a fundamental choice of uarch that amd made
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>>55304422
New Benchmarked video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUiaJXLoKnE

Basically betwen the 390 and the 390x
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>>55304358
because totally benching pascal cards on bf3/wow/crysis and gow literally games that even a voodoo 5500 can play is ok eh?
or its just there to give a massive boost to the total average fps count? eh?
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>>55304441
>75 C° at Furmark (Reference)

Thats not to shabby
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>>55304441
>Basically betwen the 390 and the 390x

Isn't that exactly where it was supposed to be?
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>>55303854
Nobody cares about your overcucked card faggot
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>>55304448
i meant they should have benched it against 380/390/x on ashes, and compared the price. suddenly it wouldnt have seen such a hot deal..
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>>55304348
This hurts the perception of the card.
I think it'll be a solid product, at its price point. How good? we'll see it tomorrow.

But when these people start to push a narrative that shifts the comparison to two tiers above no one will be left with a good impression. What used to be it's strenght (it approaches more expensive cards quite reasonably, then becomes its weakness: ffs, it can't even comepte with a 980).

Unless it is a paradigm shifting new arch. Those are possible indeed. But probably not this round.
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>>55304484
No, it needs 1070 performance or it's a failure. AMD is finished.
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>>55304441
I wanna see how well it performs with games like Fallout 4 (gameworks, extreme tesselation)
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>>55304422
>async has nothing to do with memory bandwidth

that's what i've been saying you fucking greek retard.

>>55304015
>async =/= anything resolution related

you're the one who's claiming the performance regresses compared to the amd counterpart due to lack of async >>55303801
>pascal actually didnt fixed anything they just cranked up the clock and its using brute force on async hence the regression you still see on higher resolutions due to the fact that it doesnt have any sort of hardware sc
>its using brute force on async
>hence the regression you still see on higher resolutions
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>>55304484
Some people though its going to reach 980 (or hell 980 ti) levels and 1500-1600Mhz OC.

I'm just hopping its going to be cheaper than the 390 in my country. ( Cheapest Cost roughly 300 Euro)
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>>55304493
you dont understand why this card exists

they are targeting all of those with a fermi/kepler/gcn 1/1.1 maxwell 1.0 peeps nvidia themselfs said that their userbase is 80% still on fermi and kepler
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>>55304505
970gtx is in same price right now.
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>>55304529
The most popular card right now is a 970, and the 480 is actually a downgrade
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Will the 480 perform better than a 970? What will be the price difference? What cpu would go well with a 480?
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>>55304441
>50 fps in witcher 3 1080p

jfc even a 970 averages higher than that.
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>>55304529
nvidia is planning to release 1060gtx next month as well.
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>>55304519
the fuck are you saying
clearly its bound by the rop perf aka shaders
nvidia cant do async at all on hardware level that is what im saying they are relying on the OS to emulate it hence the regression

also wtf why you keep shilling "greek" on anyone who refers any amd card? are you a uk cuck for some reason?
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>>55304547
custom 970 are faster and will be cheaper, you will need to wait like half a year til 480 will be better price/performance.
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>the Radeon RX 480 is said to cause lots of artifacts with a mere 5% overclock. A 7% overclock will cause the system to freeze entirely.
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Dear AMDumbs, the most popular card on Steam is a 970.

Nobody is going to pay $200 to get a card that doesn't outperform their current one lel. This launch is doomed to failure
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>>55304529
>gcn 1.1

There's no reason to upgrade to this card from a 290/390x
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>>55294811
I'm ready.
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>>55304540
says who? a random polish bench? yeah no they couldnt even get an fse result right unless ofc you mean the 480 is a 260x(because this is a score of a 260x...) not to mention that the card they used literally on every one serious site it never passed a 980 it wasnt even close to it....
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>>55304576
I'm on the fence about the 970, Amazon states it has 4gb but people keep telling me it has 3.5gb of vram, what version has 4gb?
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>>55304415
>leaks
one. btw the very latest one that was posted on videocardz not even 3 hours ago by some poland ball website.

>i'll only take into consideration the rumors that conform with my own bias and leave all of the other rumors that would hurt my argument.

I'm going by rumors, they used to suggest that it would be a decent oc'er. I'm taking it with a grain of salt and readjusting my perceptions that it probably won't be as good as I've previously imagined. All of this on pure speculation, it remains to be seen.
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>>55304587
But in 2 Years, the 970 will ne gimped while the 480 will gros stronger.
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>>55304441
>that thermal throttling

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

look at how the core clock keeps dropping to stay under 80C. amd are finished lmao.
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>>55304594
>VR
>Spend less on your graphics card than on your headset
Lol no
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>>55304484
Yes
But idiots keep comparing it to top nvidia models like the comparison has relevance unless you're overclocking the shit out of it.
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>>55304587
i suspect new most popular card will be 1060, it will feature 6gb ram, will be perfect for 1080/1440p and cost around 280$.
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>>55304592
well the fact that it can plays gameworks infested games at easy with shitty hbao ssao pubichairworks on means it will be an sidegrade
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>>55304599
Every version has 3.5 GB.
0.5 GB is slower memory.
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>>55303875
Kek if you believe this post, you are clinically retarded and every hope is gone 4 u bby gurl
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>>55304441
ITS OVER

AMD IS FINISHED
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>>55304599
just wait for 1060 if you are planning to upgrade
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>>55304615
jokes on the FE edition
kept throttling down the the base clock after 10 mins only to win on benches
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>>55304626
>280 bucks

I want to believe
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>>55304618
Unless you buy a 1080 you're going to spend more
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>>55304441
>GTA5 drops down to 15-16 fps at multiple points during the fucking INTRO

holy shit how can you even try to defend this
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>>55304610
in 2 years the 1070 will still be double the performance of a 480
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>>55304530
>now

and you think that's solely because nvidia loves you, r-right anon-kun?

and btw, it's still 60 bux more expensive. Don't discount your beloved vidya card so harshly otherwise she'll cuck ou hard.
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>>55304610
>struggle with todays games
>in 2 years it will not struggle with new games that are even more graphically intest
>amdrone logic
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>>55304597
There's like 10 different sources now that are showing the 480 can't even beat a 970
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kinda hope this thread would have stayed alive till tomorrow so we all could laugh at nvidiots trying to find excuses to shill on amd
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>>55304678
Nvidia stopped making 970s fucktard, all that's left now is unsold inventory.
They're not cutting prices because they're not making any more.
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>>55304304

Video compression my friend. Nvidia basically perfected it with the maxwell architecture. It allowed their bandwidth to basically be doubled. that's why you see hawaii with a 512-bit bus with tons of memory bandwidth getting beat by the 970 3.5GB PoS.

Basically last generation AMD had to use expensive AF hardware to compete with Nvidias compression.

this also allows nvidia to not use HBM2 on the next titan, it's nvidias smartest move in probably the last 10 years.

AMD finally started incorporation video compression with the 285 and 380X along with Fiji. It wasn't as good as maxwells, but it's expected that the 480 is as good as maxwells, finally.
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>>55304685
name one that havent used that stupid polish bench
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>>55304587
You're judging this by 4% for one card compared to the 90%+ on the survey that are lower performance. How fucking stupid are you?
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>>55304671
Yet 1080p will still be the standard and not require any more power than the rx480 for.
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>>55304683
>what is optimisation

The 290x gained 30% performance because of new drivers.
I don't know why it would be different.
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>>55304669
That isn't the intro you dumb fuck, it's the built-in benchmark. And completely maxed out like that with the advanced graphics options and fucking 8x MSAA, of course it's going to fall over. Even a 1080 won't get you a locked 60fps with those settings.
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>>55304705
chinese leak from reddit, gpu user benchmark, etc.
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D-dont worry AMDbros a new driver will fix this subpar performance
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>>55304569
holy shit you are so fucking deluded. still denying that the 970/390, 980/390x, 980 ti/fury x all change places as you go up in resolution due to bandwidth.

>also wtf why you keep shilling "greek" on anyone who refers any amd card? are you a uk cuck for some reason?

this confirms you're the greek shill. i remember you arguing with british guy like 3 weeks ago. you wouldn't bring that up if you weren't the same shill. still think the fury x is superior to the 980 ti?
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>tfw waiting for official benchmarks
If this thing doesn't perform at least as well as the 390X I'm going to have to wait until 1070s are actually in stock somewhere near MSRP or have a good reason to justify being overpriced.
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>>55304713
>90% on the survey
Those 90% are gaming on laptops, the mass of PC enthusiasts already have their card.
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>>55304722
your words means nothing links pics anything to support that idiotic statement
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>>55304747
Even then you're still looking at the vast majority there with dedicated GPUs running cards with far lower performance. Nice try but you're still a fucking idiot.
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>>55304441
If this is true....
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i need an upgrade, now i have a radeon r7 240 2gb, is this worth buying? or should i stick with a 960/970?
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>>55304713
>steam hardware survey

you did bother to check out the survey yourself, right? over 60% (or was it 70%) of the people on there still use fucking intel onboard graphics. that doesn't mean that everyone else other than the 5% who use nvidia 970 are using weaker gpu, most aren't even using a dgpu at all.
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>>55304741
god why are you so stupid
do you see why they have a dx11/dx12/dx12 async on bench on it?
DO YOU ?

also yes im jesus too not to mention it wasnt me that brought the fury x into the conv
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>>55304787
just wait for benches, i think 480 will suck, but will see
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>>55304789
>>55304766
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>>55304789
That's not even true. Did you even look at it yourself?
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by steam survery you mean the one that has as most popular amd card
the 360?
sure lol i bet its spot on
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>>55304789
Dumbass, it registers integrated even if you have a video card.
Please get off mount stupid and do some research before you try to discuss something here.
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>>55304787
Get the 970

All these 480 leaks are showing it's shit.
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>>55304789
And people with iGPUs aren't potential customers?
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HW tester of biggest Finnish hardware site said there's going to be massive shitstorm tomorrow when the reviews hit the interwebs.

He hinted that the performance of the card is going to wary depending on if it's in open test bench or in closed case. Sounds like it suffers from massive throttling issues.
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>>55304787
Wait for the new cards.
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>>55304821
FUCK OFF with recommending that FUCKING MEME card. If the 480 is as shit as it looks wait for the 1060.
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>>55303141

Can attest.

Have a 280x. Don't give a fuck about video cards and won't for another generation.

Just let the lemmings buy them up. We don't care.
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>>55304834
That's why reasonable people are waiting for the custom coolers to drop in a few weeks before they write off the 480 completely
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>>55304671
History says otherwise

>770
>May 30, 2013
>$399

>270x
>8 August 2013
>$199
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>>55304821
Why? The 480 is more powerful and 100$ less. You'd be an idiot to buy a 970 now.
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>>55304694
You're such an idiot that you'll fail to realize that those clearance sales reinforce my point. And besides, Nvidia probably must have some inventory left and/or will offer rebates for unsold shipped stock, since it's a new msrp and not a retailer side fire sale.

Not to mention that you tried to slip the same price tag under the rug. We're poor. 20 bucks still counts as being more expensive.
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>>55304844
1060 could be good, but it's not out yet. The 970 is only $250 and beats the 480
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>>55304826
Right?
Maybe more people would be willing to buy graphics cards if even half decent ones didn't still cost fucking $400+.
I could just buy a new console at that point.
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Get the rx480. The rx480 has double the ram, lower power consumption at stock, lower price and has more longevity thanks to its superior dx12 performance. Getting a 970 now would be retarded.
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>>55294868
>u r le shill xDDD
>u r le autism xDDD
>u r le macfag xDDD
Maybe try a response that isn't a 3 year-old maymay.
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>>55304794
>god why are you so stupid

speaking about yourself?

>also yes im jesus too not to mention it wasnt me that brought the fury x into the conv

so you still believe the fury x is better than the 980 ti? get a load of this chump.
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>>55294811

This is BR!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUiaJXLoKnE
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>>55304864
Actually the 970 is more powerful and only $50 more.
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>>55304834
So...total POS reference cooler, or housefire card?

POS ref cooler is fine. Who gives a fuck about those? If the leaks of a dismantled ref cooler shell are the real deal, it looked dinky and isn't shocking.

Housefire card, however, is not fine. That would be a disappointment.
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>>55294865
>it's legal to have this font rendering
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>>55304864
>You'd be an idiot to buy a 970 now.

Or an Nvidia Shield owner...

So yeah, an idiot.
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>>55304884
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>>55304879
If you get the 8GB 480, you are now paying the same price as a 970, which already beats the 480.
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>>55304882
god trying to argue with a green wall...
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>>55303236
>I can buy it cheaper used and 6 months from now
Shock!
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>>55304899
168!
18 watts more that the card can physically draws

its official we gonna see a shitload of stupid leaks
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>>55304821
>all these

THIS single one with metro last light, witcher 3 and world of tanks on a fucking i5.
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>How much does an Nvidia GTX 1080 cost?
>About 1400 shillings
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>>55295022
I have an HP laptop, too. Don't even need to pay the heating bill for my apartment.
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>>55304891

>total POS reference cooler

Most likely this.
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>>55304931
This must be why the card overheats so bad, it can't even stay within its own power spec
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>>55304885
OC it is more powerful. And I'll give you maybe $80 more. Brand new you can't find a decent 970 for less than 280.
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>>55304908

:^)
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>>55304899
>>980Ti HOF (House On Fire)
kek
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>>55304981
I'd say likely is a understatement.
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>>55304866
>Will offer rebates
Stop pulling garbage out of your ass
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>>55303721
>1440p at 140hz
I'd suck your dick for a card that good, you faggot.
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>>55304988
970 is literally selling for less than $250 brand new
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>>55305009
>BUT IT LOOKS SEXY SO STREAMLINED
>NVIDIA BTFO I WANT 10
Amdiots actually thinking that cover wasn't hiding the fact that the internals are shit.
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>>55304931

>18 watts more that the card can physically draws

There is no physical 75W limit on the 6-pin PCI-E connector, retard.

6-pin and 8-pin are physically the same, only difference is that 8-pin has two more ground contacts.

I have jury rigged PSU's with 6-pin connectors to run 8-pin cards just be grounding the two additional pins with no ill effects (ofc don't do that on $20 chink PSU, I used old 450W Seasonic).
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It's already 29th in where i live
GIVE ME THE CARD ALREADY
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>>55305038
you idiot the only way for someone to pass the failsafe of providing a third 12v on the 6pin is to create a loopback on the psu and risking any fucking harmonic to pass into the pc....
if they did that just to get a stupid number then they deserve to get shot
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>>55305028
I mean, I honestly do not care as long as it keeps the MSRP down. It's better than what Nvidia did which raised all 3rd party cooler prices. Reference cards are only good to put waterblocks on.
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