Is this even possible? Would you just need to ensure your case has two fan hubs near the graphics cards or what?
pic related, thinking about crossfiring two fury x's, it's my first build and for some reason I can find shit on google about this.
On the website it says its crossfire compatible but I'm not so sure.
Thanks in advance.
>crossfire
You're in for a mountain of regret.
It's just like crossfiring any other air-cooled graphics card. To answer your question, yes. I'm doing it right now with 2 Fury X's.
>>55052590
What are your initial impressions and what version of Fury x did you choose, and why?
>>55052586
What is your view on crossfiring? What should I be wary of?
>>55052577
Do the Fury X's not have a 3 pin fan header built directly into the card? My 980Ti Hybrid does and the only thing I needed to buy for it was a 3 pin Y-Splitter to set up a push-pull configuration.
Yeah, it's simple really. Just make sure you have the space to mount your radiators.
>>55052597
Not him, but multi GPU is known to have some quirks. Namely either not working at all or causing horrible stutter in a lot of games.
>>55052599
Fury X is water cooling only, not a hybrid.
>>55052599
I don't know what a 3-pin fan header is. Would you say I would need to buy a 3-pin Y Splitter for two Fury's? What exactly is a push-pull configuration?
>>55052577
Crossfire works more often than not.
And if it doesn't, you can always turn one off.
>>55052627
Fresh off the boat from /v/?
At least Google your basic terms. Come on man.
>>55052620
Alright that's fantastic. The only reason I want to crossfire is to eventually have enough power for VR and essentially future proof my build for a few years. If instead I got a r290x2 instead of crossfiring would I still run into the same problems as some people have said? Or is it still the same thing because it's still two GPU's.
>>55052620
It still has fans ya dingus.
>>55052627
If you're this clueless then you should just get a single fury X, or two air cooled fury cards..
>>55052653
You're right haha, should know this stuff. I really appreciate the fantastic responses and advice however.
>>55052577
Yes, its absolutely possible. Especially for AMD since crossfire is done via the motherboard since the R9 200 cards (excluding 280(x)).
All you'd need is enough fan mounting options - or to go full custom loop cooling, which by the way, is a MASSIVE improvement over the stock fan, it turns out.
>Pic related
>>55052620
I'm aware but I assumed it had some sort of pin header coming off of the card itself so the GPU could control the fans RPM. I wouldn't want to leave it up to a speed controller.
>>55052627
A push pull configuration means that you have two separate fans on the heat sink itself. One to pull air into the heatsink and one to push it out. Its not necessary by any means but it helps lower your overall temperature. In your case if you're getting 2 fury x's you would need 2 3 pin Y-Splitters assuming it has only 1 built in 3 pin header.
You should also know four things. Unless you know what you're doing you really shouldn't be crossfiring cards. You're going to end up spending more money than you need too. Secondly usually you only need one liquid cooled card as it helps mitigate the majority of heat problems that cross firing/sliing have. Thirdly make sure your case has enough brackets to mount the fans on. And finally expect your PC to be pretty loud.
>>55052599
Yes and no. It actually uses a four pin header, BUT its not a standard header. it's a smaller size than normal fan headers and CANNOT be used by normal fans or vice versa.
I was hoping to be able to use the fan which came on my Fury X on my case, but it wasn't meant to be.
>>55052657
Oh, well if you're looking to running VR one fury X is more than enough to max out any game and get a consistent 90 FPS. I have an oculus rift and running a single 980 Ti was more than enough for me. I only got a second 980Ti in order to maximize the games I play on my monitor at 1440p 144hz.
If you have any questions about VR feel free to ask away.
>>55052698
Why the fuck would they do that, that seems incredibly counterintuitive. There's a reason standards exist.
>>55052657
"future proofing" doesn't really work with GPU's.
as you can see with the 1080 which beats 2x 980, your GPU's will be obsolete soon anyway.
also it is my understanding that the 4GB don't stack when used in CR. this might be missinformation right here so find another source but being stuck with 4GB vram would really not be future proof in any way.
>>55052684
That looks really damn cool. Something to definitely consider.
>>55052685
Ah, that sounds great. I was watching a linus video about it just now.
If I only need one liquid cooled fury x than I could pair it with another fury x that is not liquid cooled then correct? I also have a Kraken X61 so that should help out a bit as well. I think my case should have enough brackets but I'll definitely double check that.
I don't mind it being loud I'm going to be wearing headphones 90% of the time anyways.
>>55052713
While I doubt its cheaper than to use a standard part, the size difference could've been a factor. While there was some spare room in the shroud of the Fury X, I guess they just didn't want to push their luck with it perhaps.
The pins were definitely shorter than standard fan pins, which might've been why though.
Or just fuckery so you can't just go ahead and take the fan off and use it elsewhere, though I don't see why they'd care since nobody would buy a whole Fury X purely to get a gentle typhoon-esque fan.
>>55052597
>What should I be wary of?
Not that guy, but it has horrible cost/performance, and there's a number of quirks like micro stuttering (where one GPU takes a while to render a frame, causing it to skip the frame rendered by the other GPU). You're almost always better off just spending the money on a better single card solution because you'll get like a 50% boost in GPU speed at best. Crossfire/SLI is good for people who need lots of processing power for things that aren't games.
>>55052723
They don't in DX11 but DX12 IIRC should allow GPU's to pool their VRam as opposed to copying it.
>>55052627
Oh and before I forget. Very VERY few VR games actually utilize SLI/CF. Adding to the point that you should only buy 2 cards if you know what you're doing.
>>55052744
Yes. I'm running pic related and my temps stay relatively low. The top is a 980Ti Hybrid while the bottom is a normal EVGA SC ACX 2.0
>>55052744
Tell you what, like I say, performance difference is HUGE when it comes to temps.
On the stock cooler, I could hit 65c while playing Ashes of the Singularity using DX12.
Now the card struggles to hit 41c even though ambient temperature has gone a lot higher than before.
>>55052757
Oh and I've since gotten rid of the h80i and I've replaced it with a h100i and I've upgraded my PSU to a rosewill quark 850W platinum.
>>55052723
>your GPU's will be obsolete soon anyway
The 980 is almost two years old now. And there's almost no reason to upgrade from a 980 to an rx 480 because they have equivalent performance (apparently), the difference is primarily power consumption. If it takes another year and three quarters for new GPUs to be released, the 980 would have lasted for over three years...
>>55052713
Awesome. I also bought a 1440p 144hz monitor. I got the BENQ XL2730Z.
Wow I guess I was grossly misinformed. I thought I would need two to max out settings and get decent fps. Can I expect this kind of performance for games that will release is the next few years? I plan to use the Vive.
>>55052723
I believe VRAM doesn't stack. However I guess I just have to wait till AMD releases a card that has more.
Believe me I would get a 1080 however I bought a monitor with freesync technology and I didn't want the extra $100 spent on that to go to waste.
>>55052577
You should probably research this first. Most people that bought two Fury X's sold one due to horrible stuttering issues in Crossfire.
>>55052757
Your picture reminds me of before I'd gone custom loop. God, I'm so glad I went custom. Though now I look at my loop and I'm thinking 'hmmm, really could do with three 45* angles and perhaps a larger reservoir tube...'
Upgrade bug bit me like a bitch.
>>55052684
This guy bought a waterblock for his water cooled card.
>>55052577
it isn't possible. No cases have more than one 120mm fan mount.
Op here, for anyone wondering this is my parts list https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/FertilizedEggs/saved/#view=qwrp99
All parts but a few knick knacks and the video card are ordered.
Any critique or tips would be welcome
>>55052796
Most likely. Both VR companies plan on using the 970 as a baseline for all VR games for a while. You'll be fine.
>>55052808
I wanna go custom loop but my case, Bitfenix Aegis is a piece of shit that I wouldn't trust to hold up a reservoir due to all the issues I had with stripped screws. Honestly the only reason I got it is because it has a mediocre front panel display that I use for ricing and waifuing reasons. Also it's stuffed as is so I'm not really willing to add the piping and what not.
Also I'm not sure but are you able to watercool custom PCB's like the EVGA ACX ones? If so when I plan on migrating out of this case I might look into a custom loop.
>>55052808
And my full loop.
>>55052815
Yes I did, and as I've mentioned elsewhere (>>55052761), doing so was 100% worth it because not only has it made it look a lot better, but the temperature difference is huge as well.
I'm not 100% certain about the ambient temperatures; if they've gone up just because the loop or if its ambient temperature being higher and adding to it, but either way the maximum being that much lower matters much, much more.
>>55052755
>>55052805
Alright so I'm getting that Crossfire isn't such a good idea.
If I'm going to stick with one card, should I just with the single Fury X? I don't really know of any alternative that is as powerful, and it needs to be AMD.
>>55052850
How many more fps did you get? Oh right, none. There is little point in having a custom loop and expensive water block on a card that can't even OC.
>>55052832
Unless you want to kill your PC I HIGHLY fucking suggest that you drop your corsair PSU and grab an EVGA/Rosewill/anything thats not fucking corsair thats rated for AT LEAST 850 watts 80+ Gold. And thats only if you only plan on using a SINGLE card with no overclocks.
>>55052850
Absolutely beautiful. Love the oinker.
>>55052860
980 Ti can be had for pretty cheap these days and can overclock like 30% over Fury X aka AMD's most powerful card.
>>55052842
Most of the time you can absolutely do it, yes. EKWB sometimes even comes out with specific blocks designed around the more pricey PCB's because companies like EVGA will make the layout that bit different - or they'll want to make it so it covers all of the VRM also.
Always worth a check at the different companies, though from what I can tell, EKWB is the biggest dog when it comes to waterblocks.
For fittings, its a mix of EKWB and BitsPower, depending on who you ask - but there are other options too.
>>55052860
A Fury X is the best AMD card out so far. If you have the patience to wait until q1 2017, that's when AMD's new high end cards come out. You might get lucky and the rumors about their release being pushed up are true though.
>>55052868
Oh shit. Alright. I'll have to return the PSU then but that's all good I still have to paint a bunch of shit so I have time. Any reason why Corsair is such garbo? I hadn't really heard any bad shit about them.
>>55052875
Check out /r/hardwareswap. I got a 980ti for $400 bucks off some idiot who was upgrading to the 1080 instead of waiting for all the benchmarks and looking to see if the 1080Ti is on the horizon.
I was thinking of doing the same with two 1080 Seahawks but I'm not sure they would fit well. The loop seems kinda short.
wat do
>>55052875
Unfortunately I have to pair an AMD card with my monitor due to the "FreeSync" technology or I wasted about $100 on a monitor that supports it. Thanks though!
>>55052885
Nah I don't have the patience. I plan to have this build done in time for Battlefield 1 at least. It's all good though I can just upgrade at a later time.
>>55052909
Don't get Sea Hawks. They are 1x8-pin reference PCB cards that will be power limited. Get the EVGA Hybrids instead.
>>55052909
Damn that does look short..
>>55052897
I've had two of their products fail on me catastrophically. Pic related is after I reapplied my thermal paste when I rearranged my rig. The only reason I bought a h100 is because thats all my microcenter had in stock.
My other issue was when I was building my friends PC which was essentially identically to mine yet when we plugged it in the PC wouldnt boot until we replaced the PSU and we found out it took the cooler and a hard drive with it.
>>55052920
>I plan to have this build done in time for Battlefield 1
You could get an RX 480 at the end of the month for $200, and then either sell it or keep it around for dual GPU in dx12 games that support dual GPUs (this isn't crossfire and also eliminates some of the problems of crossfire). If you're not super technically literate, I'd just suggest selling it though.
>>55052935
Jesus christ that is terrifying. Thanks very much for the heads up, will be damn sure to upgrade the PSU.
>>55052923
This
Either get the EVGA ones or get a custom loop with whatever card has dual 8 pins.
>>55052935
H100 was plagued with issues. And you shouldn't change pump rpm based on temps, it should be fixed at 100%
>>55052955
Thats the thing. I didn't change the pump RPM thats whatever Corsair Link detected/set :^)
And is that so? I can't fucking wait until a new problem crops up.
>>55052923
I'm probably just gonna get 1080 Strix. I don't care about OCing much and they already come OC'd.
>>55052951
Could you explain how have two RX 480's isn't crossfire? Or I'm interpreting your post wrong.
I was looking to get two 480's but I'm just not trusting of how powerful they will be together, I should probably just wait.
>>55052796
>I bought a monitor with freesync technology
I know that feel. I've read some stuff on nvidia adopting freesync in their new cards. all it would take would be a driver update at this point.
while they claimed they'd never do it in the past, they kinda changed their mind in the last couple of months.
my theory is that they'll wait till vega to milk gsync as much as possible. once AMD announces some competitive GPU's, nvidia will simply adopt freesync to get the freesync users before it's too late.
>>55052971
Strix is a decent card from what I've seen in reviews. Other AIB cards will OC further I would guess but if you want to leave it stock it will do you great.
>>55052981
I had heard of that as well and it just makes me sad to be honest.
>>55052973
>Could you explain how have two RX 480's isn't crossfire?
DirectX 12 enables developers to code games to natively use two or more GPUs without crossfire/SLI. Of course, very few games support it at the moment. I think Ashes of the Singularity is the only one so far. For games that don't support it, you'd have to use regular crossfire to use multiple GPUs.
This is why I recommend just using a single RX 480 for a few months until AMD's higher end cards come out and then selling the RX 480. Using a single card is just much easier, especially if you're new to this.
>>55052954
>>55052935
>>55052968
I've used corsair products for years, i have an old tx650 thats still running 7 years later. My h110 still works after 3 years and i only replaced it for a custom loop.
Corsair link is trash and should be used for nothing but monitoring if used at all.
If you RMA it, they will probably replace it with an h100i v2 which is supposed to be much better.
All companies will have a few bad products or lemons.
>>55053007
Interesting. Very informing, thanks! I think I might just stick with the Fury X, strictly for the performance and power. Then when the higher end card's come out I'll see about selling the single Fury X.
>>55052981
>I've read some stuff on nvidia adopting freesync in their new cards.
I just spend $500 on a g sync monitor, fuck me if that's true. Although I did get a pretty good deal I think, it's 1440p 144hz and it normally costs more than $500. It won't become obsolete by this, so I'll get a good five or so years out of it.
>>55053014
That doesn't change the fact that he's going to need a bigger PSU for the fury x. Those things eat up a lot of watts and if he's planning on getting two or at least do some overclocking he WILL need at least 850Ws.
>>55053040
Damn $500 isnt bad at all for 1440p 144hz GSYNC. Out of curiosity where did you procure that?
>>55053040
>tfw running a $500 "used" ROGSwift PQ278.
Some guy was selling it used on amazon with a "minor" scratch on the back, read: no scratch, around the time I got my taxes.
Fastest time I've ever spend $500 and I'm loving every bit of it. My only issue is that Oculus Home disables g-sync so it's annoying to have to shut it down every time I restart my PC.
OP here, just wanted to say thank you guys so much for all the great informing replies. You all have definitely changed my mind about some pretty important things.
Take care /g/entlemen
>>55053051
https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Gaming-S2716DG-LED-Lit-Monitor/dp/B0149QBOF0/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1465800817&sr=1-1&keywords=dell+s2716dg
>>55053070
I actually bought that model refurbished from Newegg for $480, but the thing was in fucking horrible condition and I returned it. It had paint chipped off all over the side and scratches on the screen.
>>55053048
I don't even know what he was saying to furyx guy.
I was just saying that corsair had issues with a few products.
Now that i look at it though, no, with a single fury x overclocked he will be fine with a 750w psu.
I had SLI 970s that used only 600w of power.
Cpu was 4790k at 4.8ghz and 970s were pushing 1600mhz.
>>55053095
The TDP of a fury x is 275 watts compared the the 970's tdp which is 145W and 290W for 2. He really should get a PSU thats again 850Ws on the off chance he wants to overclock.
>>55052713
>>55052698
It is standard. You can easily buy a GPU GELID 4pin to full size 4pin off of eBay cheap or a little more off of Amazon.
>>55053089
Newegg refurb is dumpster diving desu.
>>55053338
Yeah, I learned my lesson.
>>55053287
Ah, fair play. When I said standard, I was being more of a pleb and specifically meaning the 'normal' standard you see on motherboards for example. That's cool to know you can get an adaptor for it.
>>55053140
the Fury X comes in under TDP at around 240 watts, the 970 goes well over it at around 190
Honestly Maxwell and VI aren't too far off in efficiency.
>>55052577
It's surely possible, but almost nobody does this due to no room in cases for two radiator.
