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This thread is about the appreciation of watches, as well as the micro-engineering and materials engineering that is required to make a fine watch.
Required viewing for newbies:
http://youtu.be/508-rmdY4jQ
Strap guide:
http://pastebin.com/SwRysprE
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>>54449755
1st for no autis- Oops.. too late. Nineshit made the thread again.
First for vintage glory
>>54494185
just woke up to find thread like 25 over and on like page 7. Feel free to make the thread when we're so over bump limit, you whiny newfag.
>>54494221
2rd for vintage meme.
rate my new Seiko?
>>54494221
3rd for properly photografied modern Overseas.
>>54494282
Nicely meme'd my friend.
>>54494260
>Feel free to make the thread when we're so over bump limit, you whiny newfag.
NO. That's why you are here for,m8.
>>54494289
Is that all black, or was the light extremely yellow and shitty?
i'm not too big on dive watches but oris sixty-five looks really cool, especially because of the domed crystal. are there others like it for the price range?
>>54494356
both, here's hoping the IP coating holds up decent
>>54494422
It won't unfortunately.
>>54494370
Longines Legend Diver maybe?
>>54494162
Do you happen to know which watch was x-ray'd in your OP pic, Nineballs?
Also, waywtm8?
>>54494370
You'll hardly find the quality offered by Oris in this price range from another brand; they are truly affordable-great pieces.
The new design team is doing some preatty good work btw.
There is also a bronze cased one that I like more and more.
Only option I can think of is the Legend Diver from Longines.
>>54494422
That was my thought. Take extremely good care of it, or accept the looks of a wore watch really soon.
>>54494481
Get out of my head dude.
>>54494221
I may as well join the vintage party
>>54494282
>Vintage meme
But that's not a Lord Matic
>>54494481
42mm is a little big and especially those lugs are way too fucking long, but apart from those it would be a great piece
>>54494695
Oh, but i have one of these as well.
Though i'm thinking of buying another JDM Seiko on a budget.
Trying to think if i want to get a Sportsmatic (pre-5 icon), Seikomatic (regular or the weekdater, 62XX cals) or just get a beater Advan/Actus with a 6106 cal cheaply.
>>54494881
The 6106 is good in my books. Mine previously belonged to my grandfather, keeps great time with very little drift. Hacks too. These are miles ahead of the modern 7S26.
>>54494881
Something about the design of the Seikomatic weekdaters just kind of does it for me. It would definitely be my next vintage purchase if I was trying to track down a much newer but just a cool, at least in my mind, 4s15 Alpinist.
>>54495130
I know they are good robust movements, and i could probably get a couple NOS ones for 60$ a piece.
>>54495234
There was a 4S15 Alpinist for sale on WUS lately, donnou if it's still there.
Well, there is a nice Weekdater and regular Seikomatic up for grabs. I'll just have to wait a couple of days to snipe them.
>>54494370
Seiko SNZH57?
>>54494695
>>54494881
So we have a Seiko 44xx, a 510x, some 52xxs and a 5740 in these threads. Not bad.
Also, I'd go for a 6218 if you want a Seikomatic, great movement.
>>54495314
Where are you finding NOS ones for that price?
Makes me feel like a bit of an idiot for spending over $200 to get a service and a new crystal, but you know, "grandfather's watch" and all. Had to do it for the sentimental value.
>>54495130
And a 61xx too, apparently.
>>54495234
>>54495314
I really want a white dialed 4s15 Alpinist, I'd also eventually like to find a 4s15 donor movement to put in my SDGM003.
Graduate nerd looking for a watch under $1750 here (from the last thread).
Looked around and about at the Speedmaster Reduced, which looks pretty good. However, as I had recalled, people talk about how the service costs are over $500 and cause trouble because of the module.
That wouldn't be such a bad price to pay after a few years, but buying pre-owned means you get no guarantee at all that the watch is gonna work properly for a long time. Could end up being a major pain in the ass and a really expensive watch choice. I might just be better off buying something new.
>>54495950
The linen dial on the 5740 is great and all, but holy fuck, that dial is like sex on your wrist. If you ever get tired of it I will gladly drive to Toronto and take it off your hands. Also
>33 jewels
What's the beat rate of these things? 21600 or 28800? And what does the 6218 offer?
By the way, my fellow fat Canadian, by any chance are the first 3 letters of your name the same as the first 3 letters of "Lord Matic"?
>>54495995
Thats a terrible price point for a nice watch. Nice things are 2300-3000 for used disgusting goods handled by someone with cum, pubes, piss and shit in their hands.
>>54495995
Isn't the Speedmaster Reduced just a Valjoux 7750? Any fucking idiot can service one of those for $300 or less.
The co-axial shit is the one with the outrageously high servicing costs.
>>54496067
Aye. But I don't necessarily need to pay the high end of my budget for a watch. The strongest competitor for a new watch is probably Sinn 556, which I like a lot.
Also Nomos, but it's not quite there in terms of design for me.
>>54495950
>>54495981
A little bit of variety won't hurt. I like the look of the Weekdaters. (pic is random)
And the vintage JDM aspect of these threads is picking up since we got another 52xx namefag as well.
>>54495957
German seller, i could probably bring him down to 60~75ish region if i really want.
Nearly NOS condition besides not having a bracelet&box.
>>54496094
Not really, ETA 2894-2 movement. Which is specifically said not be a derivative of the 7734/7750 line.
>>54496094
It's an ETA 2890 with a chronograph module on top. You can also see it when you look at how the pushers are aligned on the Reduced compared to Pro.
>>54495981
>Finding a 4S15
Good luck with that sucker, all the Seikofags hoard those religiously and only ever sell them for the equivalent of a brand new SARB017. Because apparently 8 bps is something super special and certainly not a trait you'd find in a $150 King Seiko. Or a $50 Elnix.
Let's get the thread back up with some slav guts.
>>54494173
Fuck me, is that real?
>>54497050
You mean stolen swiss guts.
>>54497329
True.
But i think it was a licensed copy.
>>54497569
>commies
>licensing anything
Pick one.
>>54497690
To be fair, they did buy they license and tooling for the Valjoux 7734.
But i guess they did copy the AS1475, as they did with that superfortress.
>>54497329
Think about this:
That person probably votes.
>>54495995
Fuck me that speedmaster is like $4k used here :(
>>54495995
It seems to me than lots of people have a misconception regarding Omega's services.
Service costs depend a lot of what kind of service do you need for the watch. If all you need us cleaning and lubricating the cost is way lower than that. Plus, for this kind of works you can opt to have the watch serviced by a reputable watchmaker instead of an Omega AD, which will push down costs even further.
>>54497885
>Speedy Reduced
>preowned
>4k
Where the fuck do you live???
>>54498260
Ok, maybe more like $3.5k
UK.
http://www.watchfinder.co.uk/search/?q=omega+speedmaster
>>54498312
But that's one of the issues of the 2984. The chronograph module is very tricky to service.
The base movement isn't an issue though.
>>54498312
>deleting your post because you forgot to namefag
I have $120 I wanna spend towards a smart watch. I'm thinking of getting a refurbished moto 360. Does anyone know of anything better I can spend it towards ?
>>54498390
Buy an actual watch instead of a gimmick.
>>54498326
Wait shit just realised these are moonwatches and not the reduced/automatics, no wonder the price is so different. Shit, I like the spacing of the chronographs more on the professionals.
>>54498399
A smart watch seems more useful than an actual watch.
>>54496046
The 6218 is basically similar to the 6245/6246 in the 62GS. 18,000 bph, and has a very good reputation amongst vintage Seiko collectors.
And yes, they are. Should I blame Shane for that?
>>54498326
I can find a better price than that in London's antiques market. Can't remember the name, though but is close to the toystore standing over a tube station; I wanna say Regent's Park??
>>54498579
The main function is to tell the time, which a smartwatch can only do for two days while worn.
The rest of the features, while neat, limit that time even further. A lot of the functions aren't really that usable on a small screen so they are considered a gimmick. Notifications are the only other real advantage, but the only smartwatch that does both that and has decent battery time is the pebble.
>>54496207
It's because the 4s15 is basically just a newer production run of the 52xx caliber, it's basically equivalent to an Omega 56x/75x but with the much lesser wear and tear of being only 20 years old instead of 40.
Pretty much any 52xx or 4s15 in good condition can be adjusted to run well within +/-2s/d.
Most, in good condition, would pass COSC certification with ease.
>>54498696
The only toy store I can think of near Regents would be Hamleys, unless you mean a smaller one in which case I wouldn't be aware.
>>54494221
Great watch!
rate?
>>54498627
Well then, still missing quite a few to fill in the 70's and late 60's models but were getting there.
5146 Presmatic's ,7015/7016/7017 chronographs, 66XX,76XX Sportsmatics to name a few.
So who's getting the next meme?
>>54498355
>But that's one of the issues of the 2984. The chronograph module is very tricky to service.
According to whom? From what I can see, must people here doesn't have first hand experiences, they solely say what others have written. I can think of at least three independant watchmakers near my house that will service the Speedy Reduced with any issue, with the obvious exception of getting new parts.
I say buy from a reputable second hand dealer and your problems will be minimum or not exist at all.
>>54498361
I delete it because I accidently erased part of my comment too. But yeah, I'm a retard.
>>54498455
That makes more sense.
>>54498970
>Hamleys
That's it!! There is an antique market close to it. Search there.
>>54499257
>right twice a day
Still keeps bettee time than any mechanical watch.
>>54499360
*without any issue
>>54499315
>So who's getting the next meme?
Since I'm no longer a NEET I might just save up for a New Turtle. Black or Pepsi. Hope they eventually remake the 6105 or 6217, those are around €1000 and €2000 by now.
>2016
>not wearing an Invicta as a dress watch
>>54499398
Butthurt X 10000
>>54499406
>>54499398
>>54499406
>$220
>>54493274
We'll occasionally run one in the morning, but that's only if there's no South Korean horses running. Kranji is popular.
In the winter race season it's more common to see some Aussie racing, but that'll only tend to be in the shops that open earlier. Usually by 9am they've all finished.
>>54499360
One could argue that competent watchmakers are getting harder to come by, but the point is that ETA only either supplies the complete chronograph module or offers to service an existing one and does not sell any replacement parts for said module.
>>54499404
Vintage JDM pieces boy.
But the new turtle is getting pretty cheap now. Just shy of the 250$ mark in some places.
>>54496141
Mah nigga.
Rate, me in the middle.
>>54499860
>4 children and the mexican paedophile
>>54499860
Let me guess: Reddit.
>>54499360
>antique market
Sounds good, I'll have a shop around next time I'm in central, thanks for the tip!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0gkzLHONXk
best watch video
>>54496141
>>54499566
>Tangomat
>Metro Datum
Oh shiiiit I need these. I neeeed theeeese.
>>54499525
>only either supplies the complete chronograph module or offers to service an existing one and does not sell any replacement parts for said module.
That's why I specified that it depends on the kind of service needed.
For example. Two years ago, when I was in Mexico, one of the pushers of my Speedy Pro Moonphase protruded hard and, even though there is an Omega Service Center in Mexico's City, they gave me an estimated of three to five weeks at least, but sadly I wasn't going to stay for that long in Sombrero's Country that time, so I went to an old friend of mine, a watchmaker trained in Switzerland called Rudolph Pluer -google it- and he fix it in an afternoon.
In the other hand, when I came back from India last year, the watch was in desperate need of a full service, so I left it at Omega's in NY where thay changed all the gaskets, replaced crown, pushers and a few springs and, charged me -raped me- accordingly.
Two different needs, two different services, two different prices.
>>54500007
You're welcome m8. If you do decide to buy something, remember: 1. Buy the seller, not the watch. 2. Deals to good to be true arno really good. 3. Ask for references/ do your homework before any money chages hands and 4. Don't let them pressure you into buy anything
YOU are making they a business, not the other way around.
And post pics.
>>54499860
2/10 and being generous
>>54500066
He's throwing them onto a pillow r-right?
>>54500179
So that brings up what I said earlier, the base movement is a simple ETA2890 which isn't hard to get serviced. But competent and cheap watchmakers aren't that easy to come by.
Only the chronograph module is troublesome.
>>54500179
Are you Swiss?
>>54500448
>competent and cheap watchmakers aren't that easy to come by
Well, that's true. One should make his best effort to find one in his town and develop a relationship with him.
>Only the chronograph module is troublesome.
By the numbers of Speedy Reduced I have crossed, working properly, in the second hand market, I still find this hard to believe.
>>54500588
Je ne suis pas suisse, M8.
>>54500179
Thanks for the tips. What do you mean by references though? And anything I should look out for to avoid fakes, apart for misspelled words/names?
>>54500670
Some reputated dealers will have a steady clientage that will back them up. Don't be afraid to ask for it, even if you don't actually called them this will help you identify the best dealers.
Also, be sure to ask for a receipt and keep it. If you become a fraud victim, it'll be easier to proof his illegal intentions with paper trail.
>>54500882
You've been super helpful, thanks!
>>54500919
I'm glad m8. Too bad this isn't one of the NSFW forums so you could thank me with luscious gigantic tits.
Cheers.
I want to get SBDC029, the best price seems to be directly from JP, how to aviod the import / duty tax in EU ? Halp.
>>54495995
They spelled tachometer wrong ?
>>54501077
tachometers don't measure the same thing as a tachymeter
>>54499860
Just so you know, your friends might be gay
>>54501289
>implying he doesn't already know
>implying he doesn't participate in the gay orgys himself
Thoughts on my Seiko kinetic? I'm coming from a Fossil Speedway that was gifted to me years ago and have been wearing since.
>>54501216
Yes but meter is spelled metre, as in the distance not the tool that measures it.
>>54501343
They're shit. Solar is definitely the superior technology in almost every way.
>>54501343
>titanium
>>54501355
>Not knowing french
facepalm.jpg
>>54501355
pretty sexy, I like it, much better than the Fossil IMO
Does anyone know about this brand? Old watch i found at home and can't find anything on it.
I need a solar chronograph in my life.
>>54501712
After a little Google searching it's the name the Eska watch company used when exporting their watches to America. Eska was one of the small Swiss companies using ETA movements that died out during the quartz crisis.
Not enough digital watches. Is this /g/ or /fa/?
>>54501992
get out.
New chinese toy. Pretty nice.
one more pic for beautiful germans before i get into my european bed
>>54501992
Got myself one of these a little while back. Kind of gimmick-y, but looks cool, and has a couple useful features, too.
>>54502646
Also have this. Similar in overall size to the "terrorist watch," but bigger numbers and less bullshit around the bezel.
Yeah, I know both of these are just painted plastic, rather than actual metal, but there aren't really many alternatives.
>>54501343
Do you still not know how to use your chronograph?
>>54502696
I wish Citizen still made Ana Digi Temps.
>>54502646
How is the braclet on that?
Just picked this bad boy up, what do you guys think?
>>54501387
Right because all english speaking people know french, oh wait no the French lost waterloo so no we don't
>>54503278
>digital
I like Frozen but the watch is trash
>>54503254
The bracelet, unlike the case, is actually stainless steel. Not very heavy, but at the price point of the watch, I think it's acceptable. A bit of a pain to remove links, though.
>>54503278
dude, that shits kick ass, I am so jelly where did you find it and how much?
>>54503278
More accurate than a Rolex
>>54503278
You should probably let it go
>>54503300
Does it pull hairs? Can you wear it for a while without it being uncomfy?
>>54498627
I just asked him if any Lord Matics had come in and what he thought of the 52xx. He mentioned a dude who loved Lord Matics and I figured it was you. Nothing else was exchanged, I promise.
As for the Seikomatic movement... I kinda wanted to get more 28,800 stuff from Seiko, I'm on the hunt for a decent 52xx right now. But I dunno... dat instantaneous day-date change, relaxed and durable movement and the sheer number of jewels make this one tempting. Why did Daini have to make so much good stuff? I just want to own it all.
>>54499315
Speaking of good Daini movements, the Presmatic seems pretty legit but I have no idea what the reliability is like. Given that it isn't Suwa, I'm guessing there's probably not much in the way of annoying design defects, but fat Canadian would probably know better. I'm also thinking of a 7016 but those are wayyy too fucking rare and expensive to become vintage JDM memes like the Penisquartz or the LM.
>>54503331
I haven't had any problems with it pulling hairs, but YMMV. Because it's light, I find it really comfortable to wear all day. (I also have pic related, which starts to feel like one of those workout weights in comparison.)
>>54503278
I bet your wife's daughter will love it.
Only Digitals belong on /g/.
I bet you faggots are all on Windows and Macs
Can anyone help me identify my old grandfather's watches both of them vintage Omegas I believe, I'm looking to restore them for daily use. Any pointers are appreciated because I'm just getting into the watch game.
>>54503288
>>54503288
Vous non parler Francais? Plebian
>>54503606
Here's the second one if anyone is interested, I'm also wondering whether a NATO strap would look good or if I should go for a clean leather one.
>>54503490
Your trolling aside, that is a pretty sweet watch.
>>54503606
>>54503626
Hey bruh, they look good. Get them serviced, I'm not sure if omega themselves will serivce it because of how old they are, they still could, I'm unsure, if you get omega to service it, it will be pretty pricey, like taking a car to the dealership for a service. But if you take it to a independent jeweller of watchmaker do a bit of research on them, they could steal some of the authentic omega parts on the internals and replace them with something else and sell them later on, probably unlikely but it can happen
>>54503675
Like I said, these are my grandfather's and they mean a ton to me. So if I go to a watchmaker should I insist to stay with them the whole time to make sure nothing fishy goes on. I'm pretty new to this so I don't want to get rekt.
>>54503606
>>54503626
Ohohoho, we're about to get another vintage Omegafag in these threads. If you're just getting into the watch game then you've certainly started off from a good point.
As >>54503675 said, do your research on independent jewellers, but for the most part they are very unlikely to steal your shit unless they're Chinamen or Nigerians. Omega will actually service just about anything they've ever made, but my understanding is that they insist on re-dialing the watch and replacing a whole shitload of components that actually damage the provenance (you DO NOT want to have a watch re-dialed unless the original dial is just completely and utterly destroyed, and it is best to avoid replacing the crystal, hands, crown, etc)
>>54503738
You should be able to get them serviced by omega but it won't be cheap
You could get them serviced by a local one without any problems, 90% of local watchmakers or jewellers are nice genuine, people. But there are a few scammers about, if it's a serious concern that they will dodgy some parts on them (it shouldn't be) just look on the Internet for reputable people to get the service done by, you can always ship it to them (get insurance on the package of you do this)
It isn't pratical to watch them service it, it takes a few hours to do a single watch
>>54503738
>So if I go to a watchmaker should I insist to stay with them the whole time to make sure nothing fishy goes on
Good luck with that, the average turnaround time even from a legit watchmaker is measured in weeks, not hours.
>Buying any watch you can't service yourself
Enjoy cucking yourself
>>54503977
A watch service costs substansially less than the equipment to do it
>>54504019
Or you can not be a cuck and buy a good quartz.
Mechanical watches are novelties now, only worn by hipsters and small dicked wealthy men who have too much money.
>>54503738
They're going to keep your watch for several weeks, it's not going to be quick.
Omega does a good job and they'll give you back a watch that looks brand new, but they'll do it by ruthlessly replacing parts and refinishing stuff with no regard to keeping it original.
An independent may be more willing to listen to what you want, if you want your watch to be restored and serviced but still kept as close to original condition as possible. I opted for that and I don't regret it, but it also means that although my watch runs perfectly and is flawless internally, it looks a little beat up still and far from pristine. Also I'm pretty unhappy with the watchmaker I sent it to for several reasons so I don't really have any good watchmakers to recommend to you, sorry.
Also put the watches on some nice leather straps, what the fuck are you thinking trying to use a nato. I put a nato strap on mine as a joke and it makes it look like some bargain bin Denzel Washington piece of shit.
>>54503288
You know that it's spelled like that in some dialects of English too right?
>>54504046
>le quartz watches never need servicing meme
I'm tired of this shit. Enjoy buying your nice quartz watch and being shocked to find when the movement grinds itself to dust 20 years from now and your watch becomes a worthless paperweight.
>>54504101
>Implying quartz watches from the fucking 80s aren't still keeping perfect time today
>>54503805
OK, thanks so much for the pointers, one of them I think still works surprisingly (the De Ville one) I presume that is because it is an automatic? Also if I were to service them, what would need to be replaced/serviced? Also what would be an estimate of the cost for each watch?
>>54503801
Why do you say that I have gotten started off from a good point, are Omegas like these particularly desirable? Also how would I ensure that if I were to get it serviced by Omega that they wouldn't re-dial it and replace the parts that you stated?
>>54503850
Thanks for the clarification lol I'm really a newfag.
>>54504126
>lubrication lasts 30 years
t. watchmaker
>>54503606
>>54504078
You should ask some of the Canadafags in these threads who to send the watch to, it seems the syrup-suckers have an endless supply of watchmakers who do good work for cheap and accept stuff sent to them in the mail. Bonus for us since their currency is now worthless.
>>54504126
The watch in that photo is older than that. Longer service intervals doesn't mean no servicing at all.
Do you drive your car around insisting that it doesn't need oil changes because it still runs fine?
>>54504078
Gotcha, I think that I will probably need to find an independent as I feel like if it is cooler to be a bit beat up as it kind of tells a story. I have a few friends who are passionate about watches so they can probably recommend me a good place.
Why were you unhappy with your watchmaker, any thing I should be wary of?
In addition what should I use a NATO strap for if at all, I was thinking to perhaps put it on a DW5600 for sporty activities and such or is it just not worth it.
>>54504151
Haha, my grandparents are in Canada and I'm going to see them over the summer so maybe I could get it serviced then. This is in Quebec City if anyone knows a specific place there.
>>54503373
No worries, Shane has literally started referring people interested in vintage Seikos to me since I've done a fair amount of reading on the subject.
If you are looking for a 52xx, I would seriously consider using Buyee to be able to bid on stuff from Yahoo JP. I know you take on way more risk than eBay, but the prices are literally less than half of what you usually find on eBay and the selection is typically much better.
The only reason I've slowed down is because I want a blue sunburst dial but not a vanac, which means I'm basically looking for a unicorn now.
From what I know, neither the 5106 nor 5146 have any particularly well known vices, though the 5106 has a fair bit more positional variance than the 52xxs I have.
I've started keeping an eye out of 7016s as well, which is probably your fault, but fuck if they aren't rare as shit.
By the way, if you are looking at 621x Seikomatics and ever see a 6216 in decent shape, buy it, because 6216 Seikomatics are rare as fuck. It's literally the exact same movement as the 62GS.
>>54504206
It was Govberg Jewelers, by the way. Don't mail your watch to those Jews. They refuse to admit they broke the black inlay in the minute hand, which was fine before I sent it to them. They told me they would replace the missing 3'oclock index (see the two holes in the dial where the index attaches) but then they turned around and refused to do it unless I paid extra to get the dial repainted, which was a service I told them from the beginning I didn't want. They also just took a long time which is OK I guess if they had done a good job, and they charged less than Omega would have but it was still not cheap.
To their credit, they did a pretty good job cleaning it up aside from the things that they fucked up, and the movement runs perfectly now although it was already in decent shape when I sent it to them in the first place.
>>54504183
Thats a retarded analogy and you know it
>>54504309
How? It's literally exactly the same. Device with moving parts needs lubrication changed as it becomes dirty due to wear over time.
What do y'all think about the Precisionist watches? I think they're a bit of a successor to the Accutrons, at a surprisingly low price. The accuracy is a bonus. At $350 for pic related, I think it'd make a nice low key dress watch? Also available in stainless/blue or black dial.
>>54504343
Not even memeing, just save up for a GS quartz or an Oceanus.
Both are more watch for your money, especially the oceanus
>>54504374
>Not even memeing
>recommends oce-anus
>>54504309
That's a pretty good analogy. A basic servicing of a watch movement involves just tearing it down to clean it and relubricate it, unless there are parts which are broken or worn down.
And if you go long enough without doing basic maintenance then both your car and your watch are going to fail catastrophically and it's going to cost you much more than it would have cost to just take good care of them in the first place.
>>54504394
In b4 we're buried in his posting
>>54504374
>Quartz seiko
>Casio
You're the memest meme that has ever memed
why is it so hard to find time-only/noncomplicated dial watches. shitty ass date windows ruin everything
>>54504419
Buy something old
Here is a citizen I bought not that long ago, is it to your styling?
>>54504374
>Oceanus
Oceanus is dildos. Grand Seiko and The Citizen are the only good options for high end Japanese quartz watches.
>>54504183
I love me some Penisquartz
>>54504234
I know a guy south of London who is supposed to be really good, he used to do Seikos but now only does Swiss stuff (which works well for you). There's another dude in Toronto who has, indirectly and unbeknowst to him, facilitated our autistic obsession with vintage Japanese market Seikos just because he is so good at servicing them. And there is a guy in Mississauga who works on Omegas and does good work but I hear he is slow. You would have to detour a little to the West of Quebec City to take advantage of any of them.
>>54504257
Yeah I think that was my bad, a while ago there was a major league Daini circlejerk going on and I just added fuel to the fire by posting about the 7016. There was one that came up a little while ago, blue sunburst dial and everything, but the insides were all Indian'd. A real shame.
I was previously using Easyauctionjapan to browse Yahoo, honestly I was not overly impressed with the selection. There is a ton of beat-up shit, and not much in the way of the unicorns.
I'll keep an eye out for a nice 6216, thanks for the tips. I'm going to be bankrupt by the time I'm done getting all the weird old Daini movements I want.
>>54504343
Get an Accutron II.
>>54504489
Don't forget Credor, a lot of their quartz models are pretty nice. It's pretty hard to find information about Credor outside of Japanese sites though, so I'm sure it's even worse to try to buy one unless you personally email someone like Seiya to find you a watch or something like that.
>>54504431
yea, i like it
>>54504046
(you)
>>54504614
Before you jump to copping, may I interest you in another option
>>54494260
There is absolutely no need to make a new thread when one can still be posted in.
Bump limits are completely arbitrary and serve no purpose other than to provide a function for people to enforce their special brand of OP content.
>>54504489
Why are they dildos?
>>54504769
To be fair, I don't really want to make a post in a dying thread where it will never be read so I would rather a new thread gets made when the limit is reached.
It doesn't have to always be ninegag and his ridiculous goofy copypasta, though.
why aren't there more/any quality analog watches that have a back light?
>>54504651
i love vintage seikos
>>54504917
The majority of quality analog watches are mechanical, so there's no battery to power a light. And lume works very well.
I don't know why more quartz watches don't use something like indiglo though, that's a pretty neat feature in the Timexes that use it and I think it could be made to look very cool in a more expensive watch.
>>54504531
What's an Accutron II do that the Precisionist doesn't? It's less accurate (on paper), has the Accutron fork but not a tuning fork movement, and costs about the same. It's just a name and a little decorative piece. Might as well go through the effort for a real Accutron instead.
>>54504374
M-muh sweeping movement
>>54504651
Do the 5740's have hacking?
>>54495094
Do people with multiple mechanical watches wind all of them each day?
>>54505446
>>54495094
watch winders are for faggots.
>>54505462
I don't even use it. I got it used very cheaply.
>>54505446
I usually keep my favorites wound. All of mine handwind except the accutron, terrorist, and SNZ G15. Handwinding watches are very satisfying to wind.
>>54505501
>Handwinding watches are very satisfying to wind.
i'd be afraid of overwinding it or something
>>54505516
You can clearly feel when they are fully wound. There is a lot more resistance. You can hear and feel the gears move as you are charging the mainspring.
>>54498579
A pebble is the best smart watch because it is good at being a watch and it has the longest battery life. Notifications are mildly useful at best and annoying at worst, and the watch faces are fun until you realize you just want a basic dial.
No wonder then I'm dropping my pebble for a real watch. Despite the above, the pebble is totally lacking in personality.
>>54505551
do you have better shots of your collection? what's your favorite piece(s)
>>54505446
No, I just wind one when I decide to wear it.
>>54503278
Put it on a nato and you're good.
>>54505744
I am not great at taking pictures, but my favorite would have to be my RR approved accutron.
>>54505756
I would do this, but some of my watches do not have quickset dates.
>>54505779
very helpful label on that case
>>54505789
I got a labelmaker and my friend decided to label everything in my room.
>>54501385
What's wrong with titanium instead of steel
>>54505982
It's a cool hip meme material, but it's actually less durable for use in a watch. Titanium is lighter and stronger (by weight), but steel resists scratches better and scratch resistance is probably much more important to you in a watch than strength.
If you like how it looks or you really really want your watch to be a bit more lightweight for some reason, then it's fine. Steel is more practical, though.
thoughts on this watch?
>>54506087
I can confirm. The first thing my titanium watch did was scratch.
I did like how lightweight it was though. Does anybody make a nitrided or other hard surface treated steel watch bracelet/case?
>>54506176
Yes, Seiko does it with both steel and titanium on certain models and calls it Diashield. It's a very hard PVD/DLC type coating which is transparent, if I understand it right. They also use a "bright titanium" alloy on some of their more expensive models which is harder and looks nice and shiny like steel instead of the duller look of most titanium. The left watch is steel and right is bright titanium, notice how the titanium looks similar.
Other manufacturers surely do surface treatments too, but I think the titanium alloy thing may be unique to Seiko.
>>54506176
>hard surface treated steel watch bracelet/case
Sinn does their tegiment.
>>54499257
Lacks a penis or little diver man
>>54506252
I forgot about tegimented stuff, that's also just on the surface I think. Damasko does ice-hardened steel too, but that's different and possibly even more cool because it hardens the steel all the way through rather than forming a surface layer.
>>54506087
Except for grade 5 titanium. That bitch will endure scratches better than steel anyday
>>54506296
But that's literally the most common titanium alloy there is. I would be surprised if any titanium watch that wasn't otherwise labeled was anything besides grade 5.
By the way when I was trying to argue this the other day I found that all the sites online give stainless steel hardness data for fully annealed steel. Don't believe that shit, that's the softest possible type of steel and a watch case would be hardened way more than that any way more than any titanium.
>>54506292
afaik sinn and damasko actually worked together on ice hardening of watches. Sinn has dropped it in favor of tegimented steel.
>>54505772
That would look awesome on a pink & purple nato.
>>54504614
Do you want to buy it? Bought it on a whim and then bought a seiko lord matic the next day, don't really have room for 2 vintage dress watches
Selling it for like 85 usd
>>54506166
c'mon all the Russian fags hiding? want to know if this watch is legit or shit :/
>>54506637
>Russian fags
Took a peek and it didn't look russian/soviet at all.
When buying watch from JP online store, anyone know how to avoid duty/tax when shipped to EU ?
>>54506806
Tell the seller to mark it as non working/no battery and also to mark the value at 20~30 shekels.
>>54506693
It is, how much I am not sure, official watch of the Russian airforce aerobatics team, made in Moscow some use Swiss movements some use Russian
>>54506829
but isn't this kind of risky for expensive watch :-) it might get lost
>>54506831
>official watch of the Russian airforce aerobatics team
Neat marketing scheme.
But otherwise it doesn't look like an regular/traditional Russian/Soviet watch and the movement is being unclear doesn't bode well for it.
>>54506836
That's up to you really.
Jap post are pretty efficient and have great tracking, but the local post could always botch it.
Got these when I went to go try on some watches.
Haven't started reading the magazine yet. They don't have the Submariner in the catalogue, but they have the sea dweller and the GMT Master II.
>>54507030
>Steinheart
>Rolex publications
Obvious dirt poor is obvious
>>54507049
Thanks, bud.
>>54504942
>I don't know why more quartz watches don't use something like indiglo though
Some shit about patents in some countries, also not compatible with solar panels so far.
>>54507030
1000 feet, cuz amerifats wouldn't know what the fuck 300M is, geezus.
http://www.totaldesignreviews.com/2013/10/09/azimuth-sp-1-landship-battle-tank-collection/
anyone bought USD 700 watch off of taobao.com ever?
>>54506237
>both grand seiko level watches
well it's not like i needed to eat for the next 3 months
>>54507237
Reminds me of a Zaku Head.
1967 MarineMaster
>need new watch
>opt for Vostok
>plenty interesting cases, dials, hands, bezels and movements
>no combination I like
Should I just order them all and put it together myself?
>>54507603
Also 1 hour 47 minutes in Paint, please rate my skill.
>>54507603
>>54507616
Counting that you can no longer buy the SE model or the hands? Good luck with that.
Otherwise, the bezel and case are easily obtainable without buying another Amphibia.
24hour movement is kinda stupid but w/e.
>>54506176
Literally Oceanus
hey kids, does this vostok have too much gold?
>>54508056
no, it doesn't have enough since those markers are huge and completely unfit for a dress watch, which is what every owner of that would pretend it is.
>>54508113
it is a 1965 homage, with acrylic glass for about $150 i dont think anyone thinks its a dress watch, are they even allowed dress watches in the soviet union? they would surely be state property right?
DA !!
Are there any cool 24hr faces?
>>54508192
there are some on meranom if that is what you mean, but i dont like them so i cant really say if they will look good to you or not
>>54504280
See, I have no idea what any of the things like "black inlay", "index" and "dial". I wouldn't be able to tell if anything would be messed up with my watches at all. That's probably why I'm so nervous I guess.
>>54507446
There's always the Shogun, that's only around $700
>>54508584
that is pretty cheap considering their mainstay watches are 300-500
>>54508056
-_- need to wait for everybody to come back so someone will red pill me on this watch before I buy it
>>54506864
yeah I passed its expensive for second hand marketing wank from peoples republic of totally russia guys, not china
>>54508056
Nah, however the gold in it won't be the highest quality, as in it the gold colouring will be applied rather thin, is means over a substansial amount of time it will wear and look uneven
It's a Russian meme though. It won't matter that much, if you like it get it
>>54508772
On the other hand it's twice as much as the sumo with really only the diashield titanium as an improvement
Wrist check
>>54507603
when will the commie meme die?
>>54507436
Post one
>>54508972
I laughed
>>54509096
https://world.taobao.com/item/43758387992.htm#detail
>>54508972
golden jewses, tatoos everywhere, muh swag, disgusting
>>54508858
I kind of like the look, i would prefer the black but they sell out super quick.
Plus i like it a hell of alot more than the amphibia or those "ussr" post fall komandiskie abortions.
Plus shipped to the southern Chinese outpost of tasmania is $122 usd, currently i can find it for less than 210 kangaroo pelts on ebay
>>54509123
Holy crap
>>54509174
thoughts?
>>54509184
About the same price as ebay, which is probably more likely to be real
>>54509204
about the same price: - $200
>>54509204
Ill correct myself, some on ebay are about $100 more expensive some are $1000 how i don't know.
Is the Chinese one the top of the shit pile for features?
>>54509220
I buy fountain pens, i have some parker sonnets, 1 from France 1 from England one from China, all authentic
The Chinese one had shithouse packaging but was about $30 cheaper
They make up the cost elsewhere to sell cheap to China
Not saying seiko would, but that's about the same price as waiting for a sale in an actual jewelers
>>54508927
Well and Seiko got rid of some of the uglier Sumo traits, like the cameltoe indicator at 12
>>54504515
How were you searching Y! jp? I usually use "Seiko [movement number]" to search and look for watches with good condition cases and dials but scratched up crystals since that's usually where the best deals are.
Also, Y! JP is good especially for 52xxs since LM Specials were very common over there. Conversely you almost never see 5146s on there, easier to find those on eBay, I think the 5146 was mostly exported.
And yeah, tell me about it. Daini designed so many great movements in the late 60s and early 70s. It's staggering, really.
>>54502103
those subdials don't make sense.
Why should I buy the skx007 over the skx031? The 031 looks infinitely better.
Is it a good choice as a cheap first everyday beater?
>>54508994
Find equally good mechanicals at such a low price that aren't already memes.
>>54504206
>In addition what should I use a NATO strap for if at all, I was thinking to perhaps put it on a DW5600 for sporty activities and such or is it just not worth it.
You would need an adapter for that, g shocks don't take regular straps as standard.
What do you plebs think about this Casio?
http://www.casio-europe.com/euro/watch/collection/mtp-1314pl-7avef/
>>54509789
Mostly because the 007 is a lot common, but the 031 is bretty good.
I'd recommend the NY0040 as well.
>>54509806
They can take 16mm straps, but it'll look weird.
Adapters are 12$ or so, and they can take up to 24mm straps.
>>54509852
That cutoff 3 looks ugly a shit, not to mention the whole thing looks off.
>>54509261
yeah, I might just wait and hope for the best
>>54509789
ISO 6425 certification, 200m WR really. I like the dial and second hand on the 031 considerably more though.
>>54510010
Who the fuck dives at 100m or even more than 5m?
I bet there are maybe 1 or 2 people who ever did that here.
>>54510035
Hey I never said it was important, I just listed what the 007 has over the 031. 100m WR is more than sufficient for nearly all use cases.
So, where the fuck can I buy the SKX031? Can't find it on eBay, Creative and Watchspree.
Can you guys recommend an affordable dress watch to go with a charcoal three piece suit? Also, this thread has me pining for a Speedmaster Moonwatch and now I can't help but think "well if I don't buy a watch for £200 now I could put away a bit every week and just get an Omega".
[spoiler]though I'd probably save the money then feel too guilty to spend £3k on a just a watch[/spoiler]
thoughts?
>>54510212
Black or grey orient bambino on matching strap.
Orient star has similar things of nicer aesthetic and functional quality closer to the budget you mentioned but the bambino is half that.
If you mean really poorfag tier, which you don't seem to, there's some nice Casio MTP.
>>54510347
Mechanically interesting but dogshit in every other.
>>54510347
>TAG
:^)
>>54509757
Yeah I was using the movement number, model name, all sorts of things. Whenever I look there are a ton of Lord Matics and King Seikos, but they are all "not working" or "many probrem". Maybe it's just luck of the draw.
How much did you pay for your 5106? Are these typically something that can be had for cheap? I see a huge price range for a lot of these vintage movements. As for exports I don't know if the 51xx caliber was sent abroad all too often, they were mostly a domestic thing.
>>54510384
And one more thing, the 51xx hacks and handwinds, but the 62xx does not, correct? I also previously insinuated that the 62xx was a Daini movement, but it appears to actually be from Suwa.
>>54507603
Why would you buy an entire watch for the bezel?
Good choice though, dots & dashes bezel is best bezel.
>>54510360
Thanks, I'll take a look at their offerings and see what's available in the UK, if that image is anything to go by I'm sure I'll find something I like.
>>54505364
The 5740 does not hack. It basically has absolutely no features whatsoever, aside obviously from the extremely high beat rate. Seiko designed it as a sort of "trial" movement and they wanted as few things to go wrong as possible. As a result it is actually quite reliable, but there is no date, no hacking, and no automatic winding. It's basically a pretty, smooth-sweeping Vostok Komandirskie.
>>54510563
If you want an Orient try Creation. They deliver to the UK by DHL so delivery is pretty quick and the prices are good too.
If u could own only 1 watch which would it be
Pic related
which seller would deliver komandirskie to central europe fastest if i ordered now?
>>54509852
Honestly I'm the Casio shill and even I think thats pretty awful.
>>54510888
Piece unique 15450ST in titanium :^)
Muh busy dial
>watch
What is this, the early 90s? You're surrounded with electronic devices that can tell you the time, why carry one more that does nothing else?
>inb4 muh style
You look like this, no amount of glorified jewelry will help you.
>>54511353
Looks dressy as fuck
>>54511372
Funny, that's the face I imagine when people make this same tired shitpost.
>>54511423
*tips wrist fedora*
>>54511539
M'ovement
>>54510384
Must be luck of the draw, I was finding lots of running KS and LM Specials a while ago, though they often had severely messed up crystals.
I got the 5106 for $77USD + shipping because it was listed as non-working on eBay.
For that price I was prepared to buy a donor 5106 to get it running, but Shane took a look at it and determined that idiot had put in one spring backwards and thus it didn't even need any parts.
>>54510490
Yeah, the 62xx is the only Suwa movement I'm at all interested in. It had slipped my mind that it was Suwa since I usually only like Daini calibers.
Both the 6216 and 6218 hack and have screw type regulation adjusters.
>>54511372
>What is this, the early 90s?
What does the early 90s have to do with watches? Is that when you were born or something?
>>54510888
I already do own that but in steel & on a nato strap.
>>54510384
Oh, I forgot to mention the deal with 51xxs and export:
Seiko offered the 5106 both domestically as the Seikomatic-P and for export as the Seiko Presmatic (named after the push-button quick-set for the date), but as far as I am aware, the 5146 was almost exclusively exported as a Presmatic model.
Hence the lack of 5146s on Y! JP.
>>54510888
>>54511723
>>54511679
Boy did i manage to peek both of your interests in the 62XX cals didn't i? The one i was interested in pick up needs a brand new crystal but there a couple of other nice ones on the bay.
I'm also considering the 8346 cal Business-A for a bit of more variety, if you're going to get a 62XX cal anyways.
>>54499891
yup, saw this shit on fucking r/watches, I don't even know why I keep going to this piece of shit subreddit
>>54511831
I'm probably not going to get a 62xx myself because I don't really need another white/silver dial vintage Seiko so feel free if you like them.
Honestly I'm mostly keeping an eye out for a blue dialed 5146 or a 5246 KS with a blue dial.
Also, pic related shows how the old 62xx Seikomatics are pretty much the direct inspiration for the SDGM case design.
Should I?
>>54511779
Based
>>54511976
Fair enough.
Getting myself a lil "to buy" list for the rest of 2016 and early 2017, so the first two are going to be vintage JDM pieces.
Currently the consideration is on the lower end since i'm going to start saving up for something else, so the list goes as 6206/6216/6218 Weekdater, 8346 Business-A, 5106, 76XX/66X pre-5 Sportsmatic and a Kingpenis.
Likely a couple more that i missed, but either Kingpenis or the Weekdater are going to be first.
>>54512143
Yup.
Not much to botch with this one.
>>54512143
Sure. The bracelet is crap, get something to put in its place.
>>54512189
I already got pic related (still looking for a good strap) but I think the Amphibia would fit better as an EDC watch on a NATO.
>>54512256
Slap a proper non-dogshit leather nato on that SNK and it'll be all you need.
The 420 case works well with every kind of strap and or aftermarket bracelet. Just throw the stock bracelet as far away as possbiel.
>>54512154
Plus it has that awesome acrylic domed crystal.
i wish i didn't have skeleton wrists :(
>>54512290
I don't want to spend much really, I got the Seiko for less than 50€.
I was thinking on this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Diloy-Smooth-Satin-Matt-Contrast-Stitch-Leather-Watch-Strap-18-20-22mm-/222065503801?var=&hash=item33b422ae39:m:m-KSQhD4nTBmBEkMbNJM0JA
If I get the Amphibia I would probably use a blue nato.
>>54512419
Well from my experience Diloy make pretty good straps for the shekels.
I have on of their leather natos in pic related, and this is the same model but with different color and size to fit your watch well.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Diloy-Nato-Vintage-Uhrenarmband-Leder-Durchzugsband-mahagoni-18-mm-Nato-Strap-/121453452603?hash=item1c47309d3b:g:MnEAAOSwAHZUMZCf
>>54512468
That looks neat, but I work on a lab and my hands get wet from time to time so I'd like to avoid leather on my daily beater.
Also I'm not sure if I'm blind or that leather strap I posted doesn't have satin buckles, I want something that looks on par with the Seiko case.
>>54512526
True, they come with polished buckles.
Check that guys eBay shop while you're there, he has quite a hefty selection.
>>54511831
Yes you did pique our interest you marvelous bastard. Although I will personally probably pass it up for a 51xx or 52xx.
>>54511976
The 52xx KS cane with blue dials from the factory? FUCK. I've let one of those slip because I thought "oh it's probably a re-dial" and just kept browsing through the white and cream ones. I thought only the Lord Matic came in blue. I could really use a late 1960s / early1970s Seiko catalog to check these things out (the only one I have is a late 1970s one with a shitload of Penisquartz watches, some Lord Marvels on clearance and a few automatic divers).
You picked the wrong Seikomatic, IMO the 5106 variant looks more like the modern SDGM (it even includes autist-triggering all caps).
>>54512189
The King Penis is really nice for the money. The meme has also died down since last year so they have become a better deal still. I would love a blue dialed LM Special, there's one on eBay right now but it sounds extremely fucked up (band is for a 14cm skellywrist and it runs 12 mins slow). A 7016 is but a distant dream on the horizon.
>>54512468
That strap looks awfully homemade.
>>54512624
Well that's good to know, variety is the key here.
Let's see if i managed to sell a couple of my unworn pieces on WUS or will i have to take themto the Bay. That's really the deciding factor in what watch i'm getting first since these Weekdaters get snatched up quickly. I saw a Kingpenis that cosmetically looks mostly good and comes with the bracelet but seriously needs a new crystal. Likely going to get some generic one to fit it or get an NOS one.
Though i saw that blue LM, there was another two exactly like that cosmetically that sold pretty high.
>>54512773
I kinda cut off a bit off it.
>>54512773
>>54512468
They made the mark where the stitches should be too deep, and just sold it anyway?
>>54512812
That's just some scratch on it.
>>54512854
Really? Because it really looks like the line you use for marking where stitches should be.
>>54512880
Scratch famalam.
>>54512784
What unworn stuff are you selling? I might be willing to cop depending. I bought Watchmakeranon's Ray off him, so I'm trustworthy. And you could always send one of the Canadians on the board to come after me.
I'm backing out of the 5106 I saw on eBay since the dial seems to have some blemishing and staining going on. I already have the fucked up King Pimple, no need for another watch with a good movement but a fucked dial. There seem to be a few Weekdaters going around.
Do the 62XX seikos have hacking/handwinding? Trying to decide between a 52XX and a 62XX.
>>54512997
Then explain the badly colored edges.
It looks really amateurish.
>>54513058
Don't tell me every motherfucker is going to try and get on the weird vintage Seiko train now.
Judging from the position and size of the crown, I would guess the movement does not hand wind, but I know for a fact that it does hack.
>>54513051
Blue Ray and an old 1940's bumper automatic.
I would love to see one of them it go to an anon, and i've sold one of my watches to some passerby anon in the past. You do have have a Ray, but the bumper automatic is pretty neat.
If you can find it on WUS and PM me i'll throw in a couple of straps since i really hoarded straps for no reason. (And still have more enroute)
>>54513156
You can put the crown wherever you want, it's a completely stylistic decision. You just have to open date and day windows in different places on the movement, but taking into account the dial can be painted with the rotation you want, it doesn't matter.
>>54510360
>>54510563
>>54510711
Well shit, I prefer the more minimalist styling of the Bambino but the curator has the power reserve and sapphire.
>>54513231
Very few hand-winding movements put the crown anywhere other than 3 o'clock because it is harder to reach. A small, recessed crown vs. a large, portruding one you can grip on to is also usually indicative of a non-handwinding movement.
>>54513423
That's correct, but maybe Seiko wanted to try a different thing with that SeikoMatic.
>>54513156
>Don't tell me every motherfucker is going to try and get on the weird vintage Seiko train now.
More just browsing really. If there was one with a case/dial as good as the 62XX but with a high beat, hacking, handwind movement I'd be sold.
>>54513079
take your meds adhdfag
>>54513486
stop shilling Diloy fag
>>54513570
Not the same guy.
But yeah the strap is rather cheap, but is pretty comfy to wear.
>>54511397
Post it
>>54513156
I've liked them a long time but i don't buy them, just admire.
I will probably eventually get one when i find the one that is me but I'm in no rush
>>54512624
Your best bet is the Seikoholics forum, they have the most complete database of vintage Seiko models with pictures, but even they don't have every dial variant produced all the time.
The only KS with a factory blue dial was the 5246-6060 with a teal dial. Any sunburst blue you've seen is a redial.
Be aware that the 5246-6060 is quite rare and any you find on eBay or the like are likely to go for big bucks.
opinions on sinn's new b-uhr? 40mm and has tegimented steel + AR capsule
to me, an "issue" with the watch is that sinn didn't actually exist in WWII
