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>>54073762
Link to old thread:
>>54063744
>>54063744
>>54063744
http://www.headphone.com/products/cardas-clear-cable-for-hd800-10ft-14
Why is this allowed?
Kraaaaakeeeeeeen pro ...!
>>54073762
Is this the youtube headphone review general?
>>54073923
No, the Zeos general.
>>54073923
sadly
Why are the high-res Sony Walkmans, and other "high-res" players so expensive? Are the onboard amplifiers and DACs that good?
Tell me about the MDR-CD9000st
>>54073961
Because autismophyles will pay any money.
Okey guys, lets return to HD800. Does they sound godly for orchestra/heroic music?
>>54073908
Ripping off idiots is pratically the base of captalism.
>>54073923
>>54073954
I thought you were trying to test my limits, come on, i'm looking for a challenge here.
>>54074013
What amp do you have, Anon?
>>54074013
treble ear rape is not good for any kind of music
>>54074041
None for now, outside of head-fi, people suggesting O2 as all what you need. I don't listen music very loud, almost always at 50%.
>>54074051
But I love high notes anon, that's the problem.
Best Quality/Price Over Ear headphones for movies?
Do you guys have any tips for clearing ears? I feel disbalance when listening to my headphones
>>54074144
if your music contains high notes, it's not a problem. just find some headphones with good treble. the high notes are still going to be present, but without being sibilant and piercing.
>>54074251
Did you try out another pair to make sure it's not the headphones which are the problem?
does anyone here use their headphones with their tv?
What is your favorite headphone and why is it the HD650?
>>54074334
too veiled and lacking detail
>>54073908
Holy shit, these reviews
>Does not get any better than this it is a brilliant sounding cable, the stock cable for the sennheiser hd800, it a bit like walking a hundred feet with a bucket of water with a hole in it its only half full when you get their.and the cardas cable has not holes so the sound is full with it get to your ears.
>Wow - what an improvement over the stock cables. And they’re not even burned in yet!
My sides
>>54074255
In last thread I mentioned that now I listen to orchestra OST music as TSFH and Audiomachine. I want high clarity and open-back headphones that can deliver it on low volume and not produce sound right near the ears. Angled drivers are plus. With everything I read on the internet, HD800 is my best bet, but again, with all those codewords of audiphyles language I can't be sure by 100%. Wish I had a friend with pricey headphones so I could see how big gap in sound quality between 100 and 1000 $ headphones
>>54074251
Yes its not headphones
>>54074251
put the headphone on backwards, if you still hear the problem on the same side then you're basically fucked
>>54074251
go to the doctor
>>54074203
anything that's comfortable and not v-shapped for me.
>>54074251
sounds like ear wax building up against your eardrums, could be something else though, do you notice it without headphoneas as well? You should probably go see an audiologist,
>>54074368
you wont find a gab if you compare $100 headphones to hd 800
>>54074358
How about audiophile grade fuses?
http://www.head-fi.org/t/664280/hi-quality-fuses-do-they-improve-sound
http://www.head-fi.org/t/275921/rolled-some-fuses-this-is-what-i-heard
It's a fuckin wire inside tube.
>>54074399
Yes its earwax build up. How the fuck do i clean it at home. I dont want to go to doctors
Do I need an amp for Fidelio X2's
>>54074427
Better go to doctor anon or you could end up with wax plug. For everyday care, use cotton swab. If you never cleared your ears with cotton swabs NOTE. Procceed very slowly to not pinch, or worse, break your eardrum. You even can take it closer to the end. You can wet them slightly (but wipe with dry after it, to not left any moister inside) or clear your ears after every shower.
>>54074427
You got an answer in the old thread.
>>54074427
Wash out ears with soap to remove oils and particulate.
Apply hydrogen peroxide to ear for several minutes to loosen and dissolve. The peroxide should bubble quickly. Gently rinse out peroxide and cerumen residue after.
>>54073961
>Why are the high-res Sony Walkmans, and other "high-res" players so expensive?
Because they can. Because the high price makes them more attractive to a certain type of clientele.
>Are the onboard amplifiers and DACs that good?
In a word: no. Modern phones have capable enough D/A circiutry in general, but amplification sections may be a bit low in maximum output.
Most, if not all, dedicated players are marred by inability to be used directly into a headphone load, or by dreadful UI, or a lack of controls and PEQ. The AK players and the Sony ZX2 are not better or even worse than some of the "audiophile" smartphones.
>>54074929
>Because the high price makes them more attractive to a certain type of clientele.
Buying because of the price is so retarded in so many levels
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>>54075187
this should be posted in the next threads op
>Budget
Endgame.
>Location
America
>Source
Fiio e10k
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
I will be wearing them all day so they should be pretty comfy but I don't want to compromise too much on the sound quality either
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm/bassy
>Preferred music
Mostly just rock and anime/vocaloid stuff
>>54074368
Try Etymotic HF5 and Sennheiser HD800. Think about how analytical are they when comparing them. I don't have a HF5 but I'm just guessing that its basically the same sound as my ER4.
>>54075237
Klipsch X20i
>>54067316
Stay away from the Shure 840. They are overprecise and have actually a fairly bad build quality.
>>54075460
They're better than the ATH-M50s.
>>54075543
correct, don't know about the M40x thou, I have not heard them..
Anyway, I would recommend these;
http://www.senalsound.com/detail?sku=1000614
>>54075090
>Buying because of the price is so retarded in so many levels
Whatever you think of that price tactic, people are interested in and desire these things because they are pricey.
>>54075407
ER-4P and HF5 pretty much are the same.
>>54075237
Most in-ears are bassy or dark. You should be more specific than that.
>>54075460
>overprecise
>when a headphone is so precise you must stay away from it in order to remain sane
>>54075599
Oh great, a pair of headphones not measured by anyone or reviewed by zeos. Great recommendation.
>>54075655
>Most in-ears are bassy or dark. You should be more specific than that.
What do you want me to specify?
>>54075658
HAHA, didn't catch that one..
>>54075672
Yea, I know they are well hidden gems imo.
Can't decide between the Magni 2 and the Magni 2 Uber... is it worth the extra $50?
>>54075715
Not gems until they're certified by tyll or zeos. >>>/out/
>>54075727
Yeah, it's like angels singing vs Satan cackling
>>54075732
Grab a Snickers friend
>>54075680
Some examples:
-How bassy/dark, what peaks and dips you might objectionable
-What another you would feel has a certain tonal signature, other in-ears that you are familiar with hearing and using
-How much isolation needed
-Custom or universal fit
-Cable down or over-the-ear (most higher price models are over ear exclusively)
>>54075727
You are only really paying for rear outputs.
>budget
flexible. i dont know enough about what i need to formulate a hard budget
>location
usa
>source
i'll be plugging into a focusrite scarlett guitar interface and a gayman keyboard for other audio
>type
full sized
>open/closed
i dont need closed for any reason in particular so open i suppose?
>preferred music
im going to be using them to make my music with my guitar, so ideally i'd want the sound i hear to be unbiased, so i know what everyone else will hear
>>54075779
>You are only really paying for rear outputs.
what about the built-in preamp? Is it any good?
Also I should mention I have a NAD integrated amp and speakers already that I plan on setting up with my computer once I get a desk, is it still worth it to get the magni? I don't think my NAD can power my headphones.
>>54075779
>-How much isolation needed
As much.
>-Custom or universal fit
>-Cable down or over-the-ear (most higher price models are over ear exclusively)
Cable down.
>>54075599
XDDDD WHAT THE FUCK
5% Distortion. That garbage bass extension. That peaky upper mid range. That mid bass hump. Literally scooped out mids.
These are literally worse than ATH-M50s and cost almost $200. Oh geee my sides.
audiotechnica ath-m50x good for making music?
What's /hpg/'s consensus on this piece of German engineering ?
what are the best headphones for djs?
>>54076077
no
the m50x is not great for headphones of its price range
>>54076111
same as the dog feels tbqh
>>54076134
what do you recommend? my post is >>54075815
>>54076144
ow, what's wrong with them ? I've owned a pair for a while and am happy with them, they tend to warm up your ears fast tho, so I only use them when commuting
>>54076111
Good for mobile and isolates well.
Been looking at headphones for a couple of hours now
Beyerdynamic Custom One Pro Plus seems like what I want budget wise and size, but I want open headphones. Anything open, but like pic related?
>>54073762
how much of an improvement will I get replacing the 7506's shitty earpads? I wonder if I can get some earpads that'll actually isolate noise better.
My shitty M30X could isolate noise better than this.
I'm currently hearing electrical noise and I wonder how bad is the built in DAC on the CROSSHAIR V FORMULA-Z is?
And what would be a good DAC to pair with the m50x? (preferably cheap)
What does everyone use for reference recordings? I don't mean best songs, but the songs that show the advantages and limitations of the headphone.
E.g., I am testing akg 812's and cannot find anything wrong with them. No sibilance, boomy bass, etc. But according to every review, they suck.
I want a recording that I can listen to a certain passage and determine if the headphones have any deficiencies.
Any suggestions? Test tones? Known bad recordings? Etc.
>>54076684
I usually use any ELO track when I compare my headphones. Vocals + large variety of instruments.
>>54076684
No idea. The measurements seem great but the highs look very spiky.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AKGK812SN001130.pdf
>>54076684
listen to music that you know by heart
A song that you know note for note
>>54076684
See how sibilant the vocals are here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5s6jcuw6NM
>>54073762
Guys need a new amp? GET the Audi-GD NFB-15, like holy fuck it does what the usual combo does in a cheaper package for less. check it out It's really good.
>>54077171
is this the new meme
>>54077181
pic related is the meme of all memes
>>54077254
I'm not sure i get your pic straight, is it saying earth is going to get colder instead of hotter? And that the cause is the lack of solar radiation and que excess of volcanic activity??
>>54077391
It's a recorded chart showing how the earth has CONSTANTLY had varying temperature going up and down.
>>54077416
ok, and you say it's a meme because?
>>54077426
because faggots actually believe in factless lies like global warming lmao
What are the best IEMs in which the cables go down instead of over the ear?
>>54077497
At what price?
>>54077520
Endgame.
>>54077441
I see, i'm sorry to rain on your parade, but /g/ is dedicated to technology, /hpg/ to headphones in particular, the board you are looking to bait is over there:
>>>/sci/
I like the sound on my Grado sr225e but it really kills my ears comfortwise in like an hour at most. How do I fix this?
>>54077497
Why wouldn't you wear IEMs over the ear? That's the best way to deal with microphonics.
>>54075832
>>54077497
Sound quality has very little relation to price with in-ears, it's more the finishing quality that goes up with price. Just saying.
As said before, cable down is a rarity in the upper price tiers. An option is the Senn IE800, but I would like to be able to suggest something besides that.
>>54075830
>what about the built-in preamp?
Seemed fine enough...
>is it still worth it to get the magni?
I don't see why there is a conflict.
>>54077553
There are literally dozens of mods for Grados.
>>54077497
Sennheiser ie800, not exactly endgame because there are way better iems out there but they are over ear.
>>54077594
They look stupid. I want to look like >>54073961 and I'm going to get the se846 or the se535 anyway so just wanted suggestions for ones with down cables.
>>54077605
>but I would like to be able to suggest something besides that.
Like what?
>>54077677
>Ask for straight down iems
>Decides to get over ears instead
>Wants to look like some weeb
>Doesn't watch zeos reviews of the se846 and thinks they're good.
>>54077553
Have you tried the over-ear "g" pads? They are a good compromise, a little less bass but can be on ears forever.
![300x300px-LS-3fc15ca1_B0001OY2VS-418mCFiFz+L[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/O3xpKk2.jpg "300x300px-LS-3fc15ca1 B0001OY2VS-418mCFiFz+L[1]")
I came across my old Philips HE591's today, and used them while I worked out and watched counter strike matches. The quality is pretty bad for music, which is kind of nice because it's just bad enough to muffle out all of the tongue-clicking and lip licking shit that the commentators can't seem to not do, and also offer significant enough lows for the gunshots to sound intense. Do headphones like this exist anymore?
KH 120 or M040?
>>54077815
Speakers? They can never sound as good as headphones.
>>54077677
>Like what?
By that I had meant I am having a momentary failure of recalling other options.
The over ear fit tend to be discreet, in-ears don't normally attract too much attention.
Why the Shure?
>>54077815
Perhaps a larger speaker would be better.
>>54077677
>They look stupid.
>>54077861
>Perhaps a larger speaker would be better.
Such as? I'd prefer it to be that sort of size maximum really, the larger speakers I can put in the living room. (Was planning on building one of those Fostex Madisound kits actually, shipping would be horrid though)
>>54077861
>Why the Shure?
Someone recommended them in one of the previous threads.
>>54077876
If size is a constraint, go ahead.
KH 120 might be a bit better, but I imagine it might be easier to pick up an older Genelec. I'm not sure how that availability and pricing translates in scenic Oceania.
>>54077896
Shure in-ears tend be much reduced in price in the aftermarket. SE846 fat body interferes with fit somewhat.
>>54078016
I'll probably just wait to see if I am moving to Aus at the end of the year. Dunno about availability/pricing over there myself either.
>>54073762
>Remember, always ignore the rampant shitposting
>>54077605
>>what about the built-in preamp?
>Seemed fine enough...
>>is it still worth it to get the magni?
>I don't see why there is a conflict.
What I'm saying is, if I already have an amp, do I still need the headphone amp?
Also, I was wondering if the preamp in the uber is a factor in the price. Is the preamp good enough to justify the price tag over the magni2 or is it wiser to just get the 2?
>>54073963
Best headphone for watching chinese cartoon. Only beaten by STAX
>>54078450
Shouldn't the NAD have outputs that you can feed to the Magni, using the NAD as preamp? This is for getting the baseline Magni 2.
>What I'm saying is, if I already have an amp, do I still need the headphone amp?
Speaker amplifiers are generally ill suited to headphone loads.
>>54073784
test 4 checkd
>>54075237
Cypherlabs C6iem
>>54077497
JVC FX1150/1200
>>54075727
I bought the über because I like how the metal looks
>>54078502
I'll just pick it up, would go well with my setup anyway
I decided to go in on the Final Audio Design IEM grab bag on Massdrop. The possible options break down as:
(1) Adagio II: 38%, retail value $49
(1) Adagio III: 38%, retail value $69
(1) Heaven II: 16%, retail value $129
(1) Adagio V: 8%, retail value $209
Anyone know if I'm in for some fun? Anyone else here go in on this? I have zero experience with Final Audio Design, but they seem to have quality builds.
>>54078710
I love it when idiots get scammed. There have been several post on /r/zreviews outlining how it's all a scam and they don't even hand out the good prizes.
Any thoughts on Audeze? Was thinking about selling my 400i's and gunning for the LCD-X. It''ll take a while but hopefully it's a worthwhile upgrade.
>>54079241
I enjoyed the sound of the LCD-XC, particularly the bass, haven't heard the X though.
EL-8/EL-8C aren't worth wasting time on, which is a shame because their designs are fantastic.
>>54079241
Try Sine, Cheaper and better.
>>54079241
>Any thoughts on Audeze?
Uninspiring and not inviting of confidence. LCD-X hasn't had major quality control issues unlike the rest of the line up. Why do you want to ditch the 400i and why the LCD-X?
>>54077896
What about the Shure in particular would you pick it for? There are many other dark-ish option to choose from, K10, TG334, IM04, most Westones, the list goes on and on.
>>54079341
To be frank I'm a little bit let down by the 400i's. I don't find them exciting and it wouldn't hurt to have some color. I hear the X is rather neutral with a wider sound stage in tandem with a more exciting signature. I guess the added bass is a bonus. I have considered the 800's but I feel that's headed towards the other direction in terms of what I want.
>>54079424
Ether could be a possibility?
>>54079241
ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
I guess if you want to do it. It's a company that tends to cover up all their faults by placing the blame on the user. Poor quality control coupled with a uninviting sound signature. Audeze seems to tune all their headphones all the same with a significant drop at 4khz to 8khz which they refuse to address even on their 4,000 dollar flagship. They all sound the same. With all the technological 'improvements' like fazors and sub micron diaphragms they can't even get them to have better imaging or soundstage. They sound hazy because of the significant drop off in the highs. You'll essentially be getting a itty bitty leg up on the 400i. Get something else like the HD800S which are actually worth the money.
>>54079553
Thanks for the input. I've heard that the the 800s are a tad more forgiving than the original so that's great. A guess the biggest plus is that the form and weight factor is a lot better as well.
>>54079424
>have some color. I hear th
Hey mate, the lcd Xs are even more neutral and unexciting and with even less highs. You're heading towards more disappointment. At least the 400i weren't such a huge waste of money and are far lighter and more comfortable than the clunky lcd x.
>>54079553
About how much of an improvement are the 800s over the original?
>>54079577
Yeah mate. With the HD800S you get a bit less clinical anemic bass and the peaks have been tamed while still retaining the detail and imaging of the original.
>>54079581
I guess I was drinking too much of the kool aid. That Zeo's review kinda one me over for a sec.
>>54079588
There are trade offs. For example the bass was emphasized a bit so it can have more body but it can sound a little bit distorted compared to the HD800 but the peak around 6khz has been tamed so that's a plus. Consider the HD800S a more musical and less clinical HD800.
>>54079603
Zeos doesn't do much research. He's entertaining but has a certain bias for sound signatures and features.
>>54079619
That's great to hear. I'm definitely game as I'd really like to steer away from the sterile sound of the original. Musicality was one trait I was looking for in the lcd's so it's nice to know this could be an alternative.
>>54079643
Honestly go try them if you can. You'll find that the improvements you get on the top of the line headphones over the 400i are nothing to write home about. It really comes down to what sound signature you prefer. The 400i are hyper neutral and sterile in a way so they sound boring to some people but others love them.
>>54079619
Considering the fact that nobody ever complains about the bass of the HD650 sounding distorted I'm not sure why anyone would have the same concern over the 2nd harmonic in the HD800S.
>>54079708
because audiophiles are nitpicky and jack off to technical data spreads even though their ears can't pick up on the flaws.
>>54079727
I think you're just overestimating the difference between 2% and 5% 2nd harmonic distortion at 20Hz, or the impact of 2nd harmonic distortion at all.
>>54079672
Yeah idk I'm not sure if the jump to an 800s from a 400i would be worth it if this is the case. Just right now I'm just really bored with it. I can't help but feel I can get a lot more of my playlist with another headphone. Powering it through a Grace m9xx so the amp shouldn't be a problem.
>Budget
100$
>Location
Europe, Balkan
>Source
pc and htc one
>Preferred type of headphone
Full size
>Open or closed
Closed
>Preferred music
Trance, house, rock, metal
>Past headphones
Siberia v2
>>54079752
Do it, it's a hobby. No one is telling you that you shouldn't. Sure it's not a cost effective upgrade but at least you have the means to and you will enjoy it. You could just be feeling upgradeitis. Honestly, if a 500 dollar headphone doesn't make you enjoy your music then maybe it's the music that's boring you.
>>54079752
My advise is not to expect too much.
What are your thoughts on the 400i?
Some people say it's a fine headphone to listen to while others say the exact opposite and say it's a waste of money.
Been thinking of buying it
>>54079840
It's a really good headphone. It gets a lot of shelf time at my house because i usually use my closed back headphones for maximum isolation. 400i are A+ in my books.
>>54079840
most I've heard of it is that some people just don't like the sound signature of it, saying it's boring or uninspiring. Hell someone in this fucking thread said it if you scroll back.
Other than that it's an a-okay headphone objectively, no glaring problems so everything just boils down to utter preference.
>>54079553
Cottage industries, high tolerances/QC and proprietary technology don't tend to mix well at all. Pity the audiophools love inefficient handmade headphones with crap QC.
Any suggestions for this?
>>54077805
>>54080102
Yeah you probably want something with recessed mids (tongue smacking and lip smacking) do you also want the ssss noises of commentators to be subdued? Also how much are you willing to spend?
>>54080307
>tongue smacking and lip smacking
HOL UP
>Budget
100$ (flexible)
>Location
Flipland
>Source
Laptop.PC.Phone
>Preferred type of headphone
full sized
>Comfort level
I wear them for extended periods of time 5+ hrs.
>Preferred tonal balance
whatever compliments my preferred music
>Preferred music
Symhponic metal,EDM and weeb shit
>>54079752
Is there really nowhere you can demo it? I'm having doubts that many people here own or have even listened to 800/S, I have the 800 and >>54079836 regularly posts here and I guess there must be at least a couple of other people, with the rest being armchair experts judging the sound just based on graphs and memes. You should of course hear for yourself.
>>54080519
Are you Maki waifu anon or measurement rig/M040 anon? I think there are at least 3-4 HD800 owners who lurk these threads, probably more, plus me with the S. I remember somebody posting they bought or had the S but there wasn't really any confirmation or anything following on from there.
>>54080413
AYOOO HOL UP
*smacks lips*
SO YOUS BE
*converts his youtube rips to flac*
YOU BE
*buys coconut audio cables*
HOL UP SENPAI
*plugs in his r2r dac with double DSD capabilities*
ARE U
*gold plates his vinyl collection*
U BE SAYING
*connects his audiophile quality Sony Play Station*
THAT
*rewires home with OFC silver plated cables*
U ENJOY
*mods HD800 with cork and craft glue*
DAT
*wraps connectors with brilliant pebbles(tm)*
MUGGGFUGGIN'
*installs a power conditioning power supply*
HOL UP
*places cable risers under all insulated gold cables*
YOU BE SAYN
*EQs HD800 to have more sparkly highs*
YOU ENJOY MUSIC?!?
>>54080519
Unfortunately no. Maybe there's a meet but I don't think I'll have the chance to go to one anytime soon.
BEST CHEAP EARBUD HEADPHONES?
>>54081011
ve monk
Looking for advice /g/hpg/!
>Budget
140-150 european rupees
>Location
Netherlands
>Source
Pc and MP3 player.
>Preferred type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed, but not noise cancelling as fuck.
>Comfort level
I wear them for extended time periods.
>Preferred tonal balance
V-shaped. Booster bass and treble
>Preferred music
Indie pop, rock, old hiphop. Sometimes EDM. Bit of everything.
>Past headphones
Some sony on ear headphones. And a turtlebeach gaymean headshit. (Worst purchase ever.)
>>54079794
I would say that you'd be happy with Grado, but you don't live in the states and they're open-backed too. iirc Grado is kinda expensive to import to other countries no?
Anyways, for under $100, monoprice isn't that bad imo. Surprisingly, skullcandy isn't that bad either these days with their aviator and navigator product lines, although the build quality is still kinda meh and feels flimsy. In any case, I'm sure others in this thread will give better answers than I can provide
>>54077815
Upgrading already from LSRs? I have no experience on the Neumanns but the M040s do hiss a bit and judging by the measurements by Ken Rockwell the amplifiers start to clip around 100 dB which is quite low for monitors. That might or might not be a problem. I have them on my desk so I don't need that much SPL but for a larger space you might. Other than build quality I'm not seeing a lot of an improvement compared to the LSRs. Maybe a little bit of more extension in bass and in the case of Neumann likely higher maximum SPL.
>>54079752
It's comfy, gets really good after EQ and it's fine otherwise. I haven't considered getting new headphones after I bought mine but I think that has a lot to do about EQ and reading/understanding more about headphones. Right now if I were to shop for headphones I'd probably settle for something else had I not bought these already. I don't regret my purchase one bit however, it's just that after proper use of EQ everything tends to level out in decent quality headphones and something a lot more affordable could've done the job for me.
My advice would be to look for a headphone which is really comfortable for you personally, has a sound signature at least closely what you prefer and a response without high Q resonances or large dips which are hard to EQ out.
>>54080515
sony xb500 since I'm guessing you like dat bass
>>54081109
Just looking at options at this stage. The LSRs still perform really well in my shitty setup, measure well too, posted the response in /bst/.
>>54080545
>Are you Maki waifu anon or measurement rig/M040 anon?
neither, I'm the one with the Grados and did the SD mod on the 800. I haven't really done the template thing yet.
>>54080996
Shame, I have a hi-fi shop a mile away from my place where you can audition stuff like Auduze, Senns, Stax, HiFiman and other high end gear. Soon they should have a freaking Orpheus setup, I might come over to drool on it.
Although I had Grados for years, which are warm phones, I didn't like the planars even though I thought I really wanted them, which is why expectations and reality need to be kept in check.
>>54081129
Yeah saw the measurement. Might want to do it one channel at a time and from a small area of where you sit. Average the channel specific responses and apply EQ to the lower freqs if the responses from each channel are at least somewhat similar. Otherwise room treatment is the only solution. They seem superbly linear as expected beyond room modes. You could cheat with a sub and some DSP instead of getting new monitors.
Been thinking of relocating my M040s further back but I'm running out of room if I also want to sit comfortably on my computer. Right now they are a bit too close and toed in a lot yet I still lose the highs in my normal seating position. Can't wall mount them either.
Is this snake oil? Do I need one?
>>54081484
Will a $5,000 cable really make my headphones better? Or is it snake oil?
>>54081260
Why have you got them so bloody close to the wall?
>>54081531
I don't know.
>>54081484
only if you experience any obvious glitches.
it won't subtly improve your sound quality since it's a fucking usb cable.
>>54081542
They are a bit further away now, about 20cm. I can't pull them too much nearer.
>>54081484
All it does is suppress hig frequency noise, I highly doubt you'll need it.
>>54081573
Don't most monitors recommend 3ft of space behind them?
>>54081820
Depends on the port design and room really. In my case it's the lesser of two evils. I can't sit closer to them, otherwise I'm only hearing mostly one driver at the time.
Worth it?
How do they sound?
>>54081484
If you have noise it's worth a try it before investing in usb filters. I had problems with noise when I connected my LSR 305 to my external DAC.
PC -> USB powered DAC -> RCA -> LSR 305.
First I feared that it was noise interference on the RCA cable and that I needed balanced XLRs. But I changed the USB cable with one with ferrite bead and the noise when away.
>Budget
Probably no more than $350-$400
>Location
Australia
>Source
Computer
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I'll be wearing them for the entire day so comfy.
>Past headphones
Right now I'm using Sennheiser HD 558. They're good but the ear pads are breaking so it's about time to start looking for a replacement. I'm not opposed to just buying the same headphones again.
>>54082224
Very Comfy,Sony MDR-1A for closed. Otherwise, ATH MSR7. Take a look at R70x for open ones, I guess.
>>54082224
>I'll be wearing them for the entire day so comfy.
HP50
http://www.minidisc.com.au/headphones-earphones/closed-headphones/nad-viso-hp50-noise-isolating-over-ear-headphones-p-1100713.html
Why closed, though? Considering you're fine with getting an open again.
>>54082303
>>54082310
I may have misunderstood what open or closed meant. I guess either then. I'll never be leaving my room with them.
>>54081484
Just don't pay more than 50c for it all ferrite same
>>54082323
HD600 then, if you liked the 558 sig.
Are AudioTechnica ATH-M50 good value for money or have I fallen for the meme?
>Budget
280$
>Location
Irrelevant
>Source
Headphone jack. 3.5mm
>Preferred type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Irrelevant
>Past headphones
Sennheiser MX471, MX271
>>54082343
if you enjoy what seems to be a headphone that has plastic bags wrapped around the drivers playing music through them then yeah they're great
Which earphone? Left or Right /hpg/.
What are some cheapest/best IEMs with microphone? Something like Panasonic RP-HJE120 but usable in phones?
Also, what IEMs have the strongest cable? That part always seems to break first in my headphones, especially near the jack.
>>54083140
Fine my knowldge on audio sucks but I'll play along.
I'd go with left, the treble looks tamer so its the safer bet.
Right looks like it might be more fun sounding though.
>>54083140
Fuck off autist.
so i've been looking around and have narrowed down my choices to:
AKG 702
Shure SRH840
Beyerdynamic DT 770
they're all quite similar and cost about the same. help me decide.
>>54083334
Is there no place nearby to try before you buy?
>>54083334
>they're all quite similar
DT770 is clsoed, V shaped, while the K702 is opened, neutral-bright. They're not similar at all
MDR-1A or ATH-MSR7BK?
MDR-1A, is bigger, lighter, has a power button and a volume controller and better specs but I want to consult /hpg/ before buying
>>54083355
unfortunately, no.
>>54083357
ok, how would the DT990s compare with K702 then?
>>54083384
>how would the DT990s compare with K702 then?
The DT990 is a very aggressive V shaped headphones. Thy're more V shaped than the DT770 and their treble is ear piercing .I'd avoid unless you're 50 years old with bad hearing
>>54083359
MSR7.
>MDR-1A, is bigger
Pads are about the same from when I auditioned them
>lighter
Not by much
>has a power button and a volume controller
MSR7 has volume and mic too
>and better specs
If you mean frequency response like 20hz-20khz then that is completely irrelevant
>>54076519
Beyer DT-990 Pro
Are Sony MDR-100AAP (h.ear on) durable? I bought them three weeks ago and need to rotate cable everytime to have sound in left ear. Should I request refund and pick another pair?
>>54083397
so K702 is the way to go? i've read that it has a slightly recessed bass. since i listen to a lot of hip hop i thought it might be an issue.
>>54083527
Then go with a sennheiser
>>54083423
Just curious. Are there any pros of having a power button on your headphones?
Piston v2 or v3? I have a Xiaomi mi3 which supports specificaties EQs for v1 and v2.
v2 is €20, v3 is €29.
>>54084156
*specific
>>54083334
Check out the dt880. It's neutral and semi-open, so it combines a lot of what you're looking at.
Does anyone else have static with piston 3?
>>54075815
Beyerdynamic DT-250
Comes in 80 ohm and 250 ohm versions, 250 being more accurate because more energy is needed to move them...but I own 80 because sometimes I'm just plugging in to my phone or other low outputs
does anyone know if the audioengine D1 is adequate enough alone to power a DT770 250ohm?
>Budget
$80
>Location
USA
>Source
iPhone, thinkpad t420
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Something that doesn't fall out or weigh down my ears too much
>Preferred tonal balance
Idk
>Preferred music
Bjork, Sunn O))), young thug, oneohtrix point never
>Past headphones
Apple earbuds (the new ones)
Liked: design, durability
Disliked:sound, isolation
The $35 sennheiser IEMs you guys tend to recommend
Liked:sound quality, isolation
Disliked:They looked cheap, a little uncomfortable for extended wear, the cable wore out in about 3 months
>Budget
40-75€
>Location
Finland
>Source
Phone (LG L65, low end)
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
The most important part here. I'll be using this headphone pair mostly in bed, so it needs to be very comfortable with my head against the pillow. My current pair (CX 3.00) starts to hurt after a while.
>Preferred tonal balance
Neutral I guess, I'm not looking after super basses or anything extreme.
>Preferred music
No music, speech and environmental sound effects. Ear cleaning tracks.
>Past headphones
Several pairs of Sennheiser CX 300 (II). Otherwise perfect for my usage, but the left earpiece in all of them ended up broken. Bought CX 3.00, but the metal part of it protrudes too deep into my ear with my head against a pillow, making it uncomfortable.
The asymmetric cable in 300-II was nice. Didn't see any noticeable downsides to the model.
>>54085165
I remember what sennheisers I had, they were cx-300
200th
>>54085491
kys
>>54083527
DT880
>>54073762
asked in sqt >>54085656 but might be more relevant here
>Is it worth getting into vinyl I mean is the difference between a 320kbps mp3 file and vinyl really worth me paying £15-£30 per album
Built myself an Objective 2 amp. Hearing some hissing, so which DAC should I get? ODAC or something else.
>>54085797
Vinyl is worse. You decide.
>>54085806
ODAC, Modi. There are many options.
>>54082329
Hd650 > hd600
>>54085806
ODAC is a lot, I bought the sabre 2 dac for £40 on amazon and it works at killing the 'noise' perfectly alongside my o2 amp. I don't see the point in spending more on something else, it works.
>>54081260
Yeah there's not much that can be done with EQ unfortunately, there's some room mode from the left speaker causing a low-Q dip centered at around 100Hz. (Which isn't as obvious in the averaged response or in listening) Also need to figure out what is causing the peaking at 150Hz which happens on both channels, though to a lesser extent on the right one.
I'm going to be picking up some isoacoustics stands this week to use, my DIY hackjob speaker stands aren't identical and as a result the speakers are probably off axis a little bit.
>You could cheat with a sub and some DSP instead of getting new monitors.
I could, but considering the price of importing the LSR310S and buying a little MiniDSP box I'm a bit hesitant there. Either way the upgrade would be next year anyway so best to optimize what I have for now. Front ported Neumanns would certainly be much better up against the wall or close to it.
>Been thinking of relocating my M040s further back but I'm running out of room if I also want to sit comfortably on my computer.
At least they aren't rear ported so you can get away with a lot more.
>Right now they are a bit too close and toed in a lot yet I still lose the highs in my normal seating position
May want to experiment a little more with the toe-in angle, I don't know if it was a little bit of horn flare but I've found my highs to sometimes rise in off-axis measurements. (Not just a peak either, but a smooth rise)
Pic related is some shitty freehand measurements I quickly did, with Right and Left being about 600mm off axis either side of my listening position. I was also being lazy and not doing seperate channel measurements so grain of salt etc and these were from before me adjusting positioning and tilt.
>>54084510
pls respond
>>54084156
No one?
im looking for headphones for around 30$.
my current options are
1-Sennheiser hd 201 for 16$ delivered to my door
2-Superlux 681B for 26$
3-Superlux 668B for 36$
the Sennheisers are very attractive at that price,what do you think ?
other suggestions are welcome
My pistons 2 are going out, how are the pistons 3?
They're $22 on Amazon right now so I figure they're legit.
>>54085348
someone answer this, please
>>54084510
It should be, I can't say for sure though
What are the best IEMs that money can buy? Ones with cables that go over the ear and ones with cables that go down.
I'll be using the ones with cables that go down mostly in bed, so they need to be very comfortable with my head against the pillow.
>>54086988
Ultimate Ears Reference Monitors
>>54087062
meh
>Budget
quite slim
>Location
UK
>Source
jack output on motherbord and sansa clip
>Preferred type of headphone
portable
>Open or closed
open
>Comfort level
high
>Preferred tonal balance
I'll have no bass at all over too much "lazy" bass; quite "analytical" sound
>Preferred music
electronic (autechre like), hipster rock (sigur ros), chaotic hardcore/mathcore/??? (converge)
>Past headphones
koss porta pro, hd650
>>54087303
>all over too much "lazy" bass
what does that even fucking mean
>>54080307
Probably up to $50 USD, unless there's something exceptionally worth the difference in price. Something to muffle the 's' would be nice as well. Misophonia sucks.
>>54088022
was for
>>54080307
>>54073762
Who else /still doesn't regret their purchase of the ATH-M50X memes/ here?
>>54088535
I regretted it within 24 hours. Fucking horrendous comfort, and my head and ears aren't even that big.
>>54073762
>>54087303
>Budget
>quite slim
be more specific
>Budget
<20$
>Location
US
>Source
phone, shitty portable laptop
>Preferred type of headphone
IEM
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Irrelevant
>Preferred tonal balance
I'm like really sensitive to simbliance or something, so reduced highs.
>Preferred music
String/instrumental, some bass heavy stuff
>Past headphones
M50 - good for awhile, i either broke them or something as simbliant as fuck
ATH-A500x - liked w/ a good source
HD439 - had these for a year and still love these
Other random IEMS like Monoprice (8320?)
I liked the 8320's but the cloth cable had waaaay the fuck too much noise and tied itself in knots.
Suggestions?
>>54089578
Piston 3
>>54073762
what's the best "cheap" circumaural headphone?
>>54081011
Earbud are shit. Get IEMs.
And by IEms, I mean Piston 3.
>>54081091
Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro.
80 ohm version if you're going to use them without amp, 250 ohm otherwise.
>>54084156
Depends on your music taste. v2 has more bass impact, v3 has higher fidelity and slightly more balanced signature.
>>54084356
What's your source? Noise is often caused by a bad DAC.
>>54085348
See if you can still find the Sennheiser CX 200 or 250 for a decent price. They're from the same generation as the 300 (original version, not II), but with tighter, less muddy bass response.
I wear them in bed all the time, and they're the most comfortable pair I've had so far.
>>54086724
Depends on your preferred sound signature.
Based on the graphs, I would go for the 681B, but that's because I prefer neutral.
Many people prefer the Sennheiser HD 202 over the 201, for what it's worth.
The 7506 are smaller than I expected from the pictures I saw online, and there isn't a place I can even demo headphones (outside of Bose/Beats in a BestBuy) before buying them. I'm a bit disappointed since I thought they'd actually isolate noise better.
How much of an improvement would changing the earpads be? Given the design of the headphones, is it even possible to get larger earpads so it'll lean towards around-ear more?
Hello /g/ and /hpg/ richfag from /biz/ here. I don't really know shit about headphones what headphones should I buy if money isn't really an object. I guess my cap would be around 10k.
>>54091111
Sennheiser baby Orpheus HE60
~3000
The Orpheus HE90 goes for like 15-25k used
>>54091111
>richfag from /biz/ here
Guaranteed replies.
[spolier]Also guaranteed lies.[/spoiler]
>>54091111
>>54091266
This. Get the Orpheus, some proper measuring equipment, and MEASURE IT.
You'll be a god among men.
>>54091311
The HE90 measurements are good, but could be better. No one needs to see the HE1 measured either, that's missing the point.
>>54091266
That's too much for an HE60+HEV70 set
>>54076615
Auray sheep skin pads isolate much better.
What is the consensus here on velour pads?
>>54091918
comfortable but I'll definitely be replacing the ones on my K702 with leather ones or anything else that are more (or at least, feel) more hygienic. At least with leather ones, I can wipe off the oil/sweat and be certain they're off.
Or am I actually supposed to take off the velour earpads and rinse them with water/soap if I want them clean?
>>54091918
I don't mind them, I have velour pads on my fidelio X2 with memory foam it is relatively comfy as long as it is big enough for my ear to fit and big enough so your ear lobes don't touch the driver or apply too much pressure to your noggin depending on clamp force.
How come headphone measurements has different "ideal" frequency responses?
One chart has one where it starts from the bottom of the graph in the bass range, then goes up to a flat line, then another one does the complete opposite, where line starts from the top of the graph and slopes down into a flat line, then other places just says "if it's flat then it's perfect"
Innerfidelity suggests the Harman line, there's too many fucking 'ideal' response curves has anyone actually done a full depth analysis on this shit
Best neutral-ish sounding open back headphones for around $300-500?
Would prefer them to not require any amp, I would use them direct from pc/tablet/guitar amplifier headphone out. Velour or comfy is desired plus.
For the record I have K7XXs currently, they are under repair with a friend for what I presume is a bad solder. Would like to know if there's a better alternative or it's all diminishing returns in that price range compared to what I have.
>>54092024
>Would prefer them to not require any amp
>For the record I have K7XXs currently
Something seems a bit odd with these two statements.
>>54092059
kek. I'm not using them with any amp right now.
I'm sure I'm missing out some of the potential. Any recommendations?
>>54092080
>I'm sure I'm missing out some of the potential.
not much really. I don't perceive much a difference between my onboard (Z97-A) and my Fii E10K for my K702s.
I fell for the worst meme
>>54092120
Then again, I'm not doing a blind test so I'm just trying to favour one over the other because I'm definitely biased towards the $100 amp I just bought.
I definitely have it plugged into the amp in always since it seems like the binaural effect is more solid that way.
>>54091963
There's leather earpads for the K702?
>>54092080
>>54092120
Onboard sound is pretty good nowadays and so are smartphones surprisingly enough. It's so hard to find scientific testing with all of the snake oil thats out also.
>Budget
Endgame.
>Location
America
>Source
Fiio e10k
>Preferred type of headphone
IEMs.
Ones with cables that go over the ear and ones with cables that go down.
I'll be using the ones with cables that go down mostly in bed, so they need to be very comfortable with my head against the pillow.
>Preferred tonal balance
Warm/bassy
>Preferred music
Mostly just rock and anime/vocaloid stuff
AKG K3003i
got some woox fidelio x2s today for $200. sound bretty good. any song recommendations to really showcase their strengths?
>>54092597
Bjork-triumph of a heart
>>54092611
man, this song is pretty out there. not much of a bjork kind of guy, but joga is among my favorite songs.
>>54092238
>There's leather earpads for the K702?
well, it doesn't have to be official earpads even if that would be more convenient with the replacing design
>>54092664
The entire album is acapella
>>54092314
Bump.
So, I bought a pair of "high-end" headphones for the first time in my life, the Logitech G430. I'm confused about them.
The cable is long as fuck, I have to tie it up making it heavy.
The volume control is far from the headset, making it heavy at another area of the cable. I can't imagine how I'm supposed to manage that, except by tying to clip to my pants or something. I don't always game with pants.
The sound is nice but isn't exactly $80 worth.
Comfort is passable but isn't exactly $80 worth.
Is someone able to tell me how much I got screwed?
>>54094439
>high-end
>logitech
>high-end
>$80
>high-end
>headset
>>54094448
Okay I expected this kind of predictable elitist shit so please get it all out of your system and then proceed with the actual advice if you have any.
>>54094464
Not that Anon but, that's not elitism dude, for that price you could have got a mdr7506 and a cheap mic, which is considered a cheap "good option" around here.
>>54094464
advise is not to buy a heaset, particularly from a company that doesn't specialize in good audio but rather gimmicky computer products aimed at retarded gamer kiddies.
>Budget
Between $40-$100
>Location
America
>Source
Laptop, Phone, 3DS
>Preferred type of headphone
On-ear or Over-Ear
>Open or closed
Preferably closed, but open would work
>Comfort level
Need to be fairly comfy. Wear them for long periods
>Preferred music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk0QvB4nw0A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUBMi8igtf0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4IEV8l-gA
>Past headphones
Pic related. I absolutely love the Koss PortaPro, but I'm looking for the next step up.
>>54094439
>>54094464
Read the fucking wiki.
>>54094514
Those headphones are $50 more expensive. Plus, Sony? I've only had bad experiences with them before.
>>54094518
>>54094562
Ignored.
>>54094607
piss poor bait.
>>54094611
Nobody's forcing you to reply, shithead. If all you're gonna say is "Don't buy a headset, they don't render the .FLAC quality of my corecore music collection as good" or "Read the manual noob" then I'm not gonna entertain you. You either have advice to give me or you're trying to get yourself off by giving me shit.
>>54094642
>autistic
>projecting
>""""Ignored""""
weak bait
>>54094607
Forget what you've heard. Do some research on head-fi, /r/headphones, z review on youtube, read the wiki, etc. There's a lot more to the subject that just a cursory glance.
There's no need to become immediately defensive of your purchases. You're just ignorant to the subject, no shame in that. Now if you remain as indignant as you're coming off, you're not likely to get much help.
>>54094668
>Do some research on head-fi, /r/headphones, z review on youtube
>You're just ignorant to the subject, no shame in that
Oh the irony.
>>54094607
50 bucks? didn't you jsut said you paid 80 for the headset?
Anyway, MDR V6/7506 has being an industry standard for the last 30 years actually. it also considered one of the most durable headphones in the price range.
>>54094668
The thing is I'm not that interested in sound quality. I'm more interested in comfort, usefulness and sturdiness. If the quality is okay for the price I'm paying, I'm fine with it. But I have no idea here. I somehow presumed I was getting something distinctly better for $80. There's a whole range of headphones out there with less-than-decent quality from $15 to $60, so I'm not sure what I paid more than that for here.
>>54094439
don't listen to the other people, you actually made a good purchase.
What people don't want you to know around these parts is that headphones above $100 are complete scam products and anything $100 and under is just as good as a $500 headphone.
Not only that, but you made a smart consumer based decision and bought a headphone with an attached mic. Lots of people here just don't like these kinds of headphones because they're too good because of the added functionality. the point is that they're so popular they're meme headphones. But don't let that make you not like them, they're really good headphones.
>>54094763
Yeeaaah. That's nice anon. Thank you for telling me exactly what I obviously want to hear, because the fact that I'm giving people who are being shitheads an attitude obviously means I'm only coming here to get reassured and not receive actual advice. There's no middle ground between those two things. I just want to be jacked off like you're doing right now. Now I'll be on my way like the dumbass that I am and you can resume making fun of each other for buying headphones with the wrong driver materials.
This thread is worse than a Linux community.
>>54094714
>The thing is I'm not that interested in sound quality. I'm more interested in comfort, usefulness and sturdiness.
If the quality is okay for the price I'm paying, I'm fine with it.
>Goes to headphone general for headphone advice
Is this how you live your life, by accepting mediocrity?
>>54094688
i don't think you understand what irony is
>>54094714
you pay more for the convenience of several devices in one. you can get quality built headphones in the same price as you paid, but certainly not from a gaming headphone.
>>54094763
this is weak bait
>>54092314
SE846
IE800
I personally prefer the SE535 to the 846.
>>54094811
i think it's ironic that somebody who is ignorant on the subject is recommending things and telling somebody else they're ignorant on the subject.
>>54094439
old but gold.
>>54094830
i simply recommended popular resources for beginners. that doesn't mean i don't know much about the material mate. i can see how you feel that way though.
>>54094843
People who do this hide their headphones when people come over, right?
This community is so far up its own ass it has no idea how retarded it looks to the outside world by considering headsets like they're some kind of taboo.
>>54094798
>has an incredibly toxic personality that immediately gets defensive over the smallest thing and responds to literally every post that tries to hurt your feelings and is overly prideful over comments that doesn't even sound like it's shit talking you
>says he's leaving because the community is shit
Please consider why people are treating you like shit in the first place.
>>54094884
It's absolutely impossible that you've all grown to be a bunch of assholes because of the jerk-off circle atmosphere you're creating by making fun of people who make purchase choices you disapprove which would logically repel pleasant people and hence make this entire community an exclusive cult of elitist shitheads.
>>54094877
>This thread is worse than a Linux community.
>This community is so far up its own ass it has no idea how retarded it looks to the outside world by considering headsets like they're some kind of taboo.
Are you sure anon it's not just you poisoning these threads?
Besides you asked if you made a shitty purchase and it's clear from the responses given in these threads that you have indeed wasted $80, why then are you talking like you just strapped a mousetrap onto your own testicle?
>>54094908
sorry dude, but it's your fault, you asked if it was a bad purchase on fucking 4chan of all places, do you really think wanyone would tap you in the back for buying that piece of shit?
It's not even elitism, 80 is what you spend to get a good and cheap headphone.
>>54094908
>indirectly calls himself pleasant
>proceeds to call a community he's barely even visited a circle-jerk community
I feel sorry for you anon. What kind of bitter life did you have to live through to turn up to be this kind of person?
Please grow a better outlook on life instead of shitting on people you barely know to vent your frustrations.
>>54094922
Listen, I asked if I made a bad purchase and the only serious responses I've had so far were pretty much "You definitely did because you purchased an impure, disgusting headset, the worst of taboos."
You're acting like a bunch of fucking caricatures. In fact, this is exactly what I anticipated: Instead of dispensing actual advice, you'd all start nitpicking at one specific element you all agreed on months ago was taboo and acting like apes about it when called out about how pointless it is.
You are like fucking sitcom characters.
>>54094877
>People who do this hide their headphones when people come over, right?
Why would anyone hide their headphones when people come over?
>>54094975
Anon you've been doing nothing but namecalling and ad hominems every single post you make with little to no rhyme nor reason.
If anything you're being very hypocritical, when you call these threads toxic when you yourself is being just as (if not more) toxic.
>>54094975
>Instead of dispensing actual advice
You got actual advice, ie. you made a bad purchase. But you've refused to heed or even acknowledge what's been said as advice.
What you seek is not advice but validation. Something you are not going to get from what is repeatedly been stated is a shit purchase.
>>54094975
>Is someone able to tell me how much I got screwed?
>asking for advice
kek.
>>54095014
My initial post was asking for advice politely. The first reply was a bunch of greentext implying I was mislead for both the brand, price and type of headphone.
That's not advice. Those are presumptions.
If you guys don't have actual advice to give, don't know shit about headset, whatever, that's fine. You don't have to give advice. Clearly you're just jumping on an opportunity to make fun of someone for their poor choice.
>>54095031
People said I made a bad purchase because it was a headset. Again, that's not helpful because it's not knowledge, it's a presumption. It's nothing short of a running joke. How much dick sucking do you want in exchange for making fun of me for buying a headset? Seriously.
>>54095075
>People said I made a bad purchase because it was a headset.
That was one of the reasons. You were also told it was bad purchase because of the manufacturer, and because there are better _and cheaper_ options.
Thank you for proving that you are not listening to advice because you are not seeking advice.
>gaymer is mad because people don't like his high end headset
I would take zeosposter over this any day.
>>54095091
>because of the manufacturer
That is also a presumption.
>there are better _and cheaper_ options
THE ONLY OTHER OPTION PROVIDED WAS $50 MORE EXPENSIVE AND WAS NOT A HEADSET.
Who isn't listening here?
>>54095101
I'm not even a gamer and if you had paid any attention to what I said you'd know I already concluded the headset was shitty. I'm only annoyed because everything I've been told so far amounts to "don't buy a headset lol so obvious"
>>54095104
>mdr 7506 + mic
>130$
Where do you even live?
>>54095104
>That is also a presumption.
What makes the difference between a "presumption" and advice by your definition?
It appears to be anything you don't like is a "presumption."
>THE ONLY OTHER OPTION PROVIDED
Perhaps the reason why no one specifically mentioned the hyper cloud X may be because you have the wrong attitude for someone claiming to be "seeking advice?"
>>54095075
Take anything you can get, to come to a thread you barely visit and then complaining that everyone is a meanie head and they should be nice to you because you deserve it just makes you look like an uptight asshole.
>it's not knowledge, it's a presumption
You honestly believe that people here laugh at headsets cause "hurr it's a headset"? Are you joking? These threads have existed long enough to know exactly why headsets are inherently bad, the reason why they laugh is because they have knowledge on what makes it laughable, not because they're idiots and think you're a peasant for wasting your money for no reason.
>THE ONLY OTHER OPTION PROVIDED WAS $50 MORE EXPENSIVE AND WAS NOT A HEADSET.
>>54094843
Also
>If the quality is okay for the price I'm paying, I'm fine with it.
>The only other option provided was $50 more expensive
>completely ignored the incredibly cheaper options that would probably provide better quality for the price
The hypocrisy continues
>>54095168
>If the quality is okay for the price I'm paying, I'm fine with it.
This is what's so funny, someone actually goes to give him better and cheaper alternatives, alternatives that are purely on the quality for price ratio and then he goes and calls the headphone community one that has their heads shoved too far up its own ass.
Wow talk about a big wide "thank you" huh. This guy is the living definition of hypocrite.
>>54095104
>Who isn't listening here?
clearly you, you seem to be suffering from selective memory or some shit to be this hypocritical.
It's not even frustrating, it just makes me sad. Please get better anon
>>54095137
>Logitech isn't an audio product brand therefore its headsets are obviously shitty even though I tried none of them.
>Buy a Kingston instead.
Fucking.
>>54095168
>You honestly believe that people here laugh at headsets cause "hurr it's a headset"? Are you joking? These threads have existed long enough to know exactly why headsets are inherently bad, the reason why they laugh is because they have knowledge on what makes it laughable, not because they're idiots and think you're a peasant for wasting your money for no reason.
I'm sorry for not giving you the credit you claim to have when you act like elitist fuckheads. I should have went right away and sucked your cock for making fun of me. That's the first thing you should do when people on the internet start acting like dicks: Trust them blindly. They have the experience.
>completely ignored the incredibly cheaper options that would probably provide better quality for the price
Oh my god. No, I'm not gonna tie a fucking microphone to a pair of headphones with a plastic tie. What kind of white trash gimmick is this? How has this become an acceptable alternative?
>>54095212
The alternatives I've been given:
1. A much more expensive pair of headphones that is strictly about sound quality, which I've made clear is not a priority
2. A gimmick to make cheap headphones into a headset with construction paper and stick glue, because QUALITY.
>>54095241
>Fucking.
I take it from your refusal to answer the question that my PRESUMPTION was spot on.
>Buy a Kingston instead.
I wonder if it might be a rebranded set of good headphones like the Takstar Pro 80. . . Oh no. That would be a PRESUMPTION even though the have the same specs, build, etc.
>>54095241
>strictly about sound quality
Anon said it's about sturdyness actually, which you asked for.
>much more expensive
10 bucks more expensive, in fact it was 75 bucks last week, but hey, you got a headset and came asking after...
>>54095279
>>54095282
why are you guys even aswering? He is so mad and incoherent it's pathetic, probably just a newfag...
>>54094543
K240
>>54095279
Actually I've seriously considered it but the Hyper-X Cloud is a USB-only model. Aren't those limited in volume and sound quality from the start?
this anon really makes me feel bad
it's not even shitposting it's just a cry for help at this point
maybe he got bullied and he turned up like this...
>>54095302
Because I enjoy giving idiots all the rope they need to hang themself with.
>Budget- $50
>Location -USA
>Source - Sony Xperia Z3
>Preferred type of headphone -Earbuds
>Comfort level - Doesn't matter
I just want some good earbuds to work out with for under $50, I used the Monoprice earbuds for a long time and they were fine but I want to move on from those bulky things.
New thread:
>>54095363
>>54095363
>>54095363
>>54095337
>USB-only
Are you confusing the Hyper Cloud X with the Hyper Cloud X 2? I wonder if there is a difference that might be why one is suggested but not the other?
>>54095337
Whoops! Forgot the image.
>>54095380
>I wonder if there is a difference that might be why one is suggested but not the other?
Is that what you wonder? i wonder why someone makes a bad purchase and only later asks for advice only to get mad afterwards.
>>54095380
>>54095398
Augh. The specs on Amazon are really unclear. I'll keep looking into it. Thank you anon!
>>54095407
>i wonder why someone makes a bad purchase and only later asks for advice only to get mad afterwards.
Because he's an ass? A self-entitled, self-righteous ass?
>>54095411
Next time, might I suggest you actually read what other people post instead of just assuming they are posting "presumptions" just because you suffer from post purchase rationalization? At least you wouldn't come across as a complete retard even if you are one.
>>54095398
>4 poles jack for all those people using giant gaming headsets on their smartphones
>4 poles-to-microphone and stereo adapter in case you're one of these weirdos using a gaming headset on a PC
>microphone cable and stereo cable to microphone and stereo rectangular thingy
>microphone and stereo input to 4 poles jack in case you want to convert it back to 4 poles
>3.5 mm splitter
>>54095472
It's a rebranded product. What? You expect Kingston to provide an elegant solution?
>>54095450
Dude, I wasn't rationalizing my purchase. I am actually intending to exchange these headphones. I gave you all the reasons why I reacted negatively to the responses I got. If you're still presuming I'm reationalizing my purchase at this point, you're just confirming that you're a dick.
I came here for advice about headsets. I got made fun of for buying headsets, then I got "Don't buy headsets" and "Tie a microphone to a headset with a plastic tie", then I got advised to buy expensive headphones, that weren't headsets. That's fucking stupid and I'm not gonna take that shit. Deal with it.
>>54095505
I'm just not sure what the 3 last ones do.
>>54095507
>I am actually intending to exchange these headphones
Given your conduct in this thread I find that completely implausible.
>I gave you all the reasons why I reacted negatively to the responses I got.
Yes. We all know you were writing off every piece advice given to you as a "presumption" rather than advice.
>>54095507
>I gave you all the reasons why I reacted negatively to the responses I got.
the manner in which you spoke was reason enough, people would haven probably been a lot nicer to you if you didn't continue to act like a self entitled asshole. And then you wouldn't have been complaining that people were hurting your feelings.
>>54095507
>gets suggested mdr 7506
>"I got advised to buy expensive headphones"
>"That's fucking stupid"
>80 bucks headset instead
Yeah, we are "dealing" with it just fine.
New thread:
>>54095363 →
>>54095363 →
>>54095363 →
>>54095546
YOU'RE SO FUCKING STUPID
I ACTUALLY TOOK SOMEONE'S ADVICE.
YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE IT WAS A SUGGESTION FOR A BETTER KIND OF HEADSET.
THAT IS WHAT I CAME HERE FOR.
Alright, you know what? Fuck you. Just get brain cancer you useless fat piece of shit. Fuck you all.
>>54095572
>First reply was greentext about how bad my purchase was because it was a logitech headset that didn't cost $300
>I literally told them they didn't have to reply, but I'm "self entitled".
>>54095576
The advice was bad. I went over why it was bad time and time again. STOP PRETENDING IT WAS GOOD. IT WAS OBJECTIVELY BAD.
I mean who the fuck is rationalizing here? I am not interested in buying $125 sony headphones. End of story.
>>54095615
Ah, the butthurt...
>>54095634
My god, if I could somehow have a magic button to kill you, I would push it.
>>54095647
I'm angry because people keep misunderstanding me on purpose just to have reasons to bitch at me.
>>54095615
>Alright, you know what? Fuck you. Just get brain cancer you useless fat piece of shit. Fuck you all.
and yet you still think the people shitting on you is unjustified?
the first reply you got that was just greentext was not nearly as bad as this, all that post was, was just poking fun at you for wasting away $80
>>54095655
Fuck you.
>>54095597
Thanks for repeating the same thing that was posted in >>54095371
>>54095615
>I ACTUALLY TOOK SOMEONE'S ADVICE.
After you failed to distinguish between "advice" and "presumption" as well after you confused the USB version with the standard plug version.
We all watched you fail and fail again in this thread. Don't be mad at others for giving you all the rope you needed to hang yourself. We suggested you adjust your poor attitude, also given as advice but I'm sure you are writing it off as "presumption" again, but you are determined to be an ass to anyone who doesn't treat as the special snowflake you delusionally believe you are.
>>54095698
>New thread:
>>>54095363 → →
>>>54095363 → →
>>>54095363 → →
>>54095698
Fuck you.
>>54095713
>calm and eloquence
>you
pick the one that makes you mad.
>>54095708
Are we an unhappy attention whore and functioning under some idiotic concept that this discussion at this point is in any way substantive? That I am avoiding spreading this shitposter's piss poor attitude in a fresh new thread?
>>54095713
Not only are you an ass you are an ungrateful ass. At least you are determined to go big as in being a big, ungrateful ass.
Might I suggest you never post in any thread in /g/ again or on 4chan in general. You seem to take personal affront to anyone who questions anything you post about we generally take great delight in questioning obvious shit decisions like buying a logitech headset.
>>54095698
LISTEN HERE.
I'LL SPELL IT OUT ONE LAST TIME
TELL ME I SHOULDN'T BUY EHEADSET: I TELL YOU TO FUCK OFF
SUGGEST ME HEADSET TO BUY: I SAY THANKS AND DO IT.
THERE IS EVIDENCE OF BOTH SITUATIONS IN THIS VERY THREAD BUT CLEARLY YOU'RE SET ON BELIEVING I'M DEFENDING MY POOR PURCHASE CHOICE BECAUSE IT'S MORE CONVENIENT FOR YOU TO BELITTLE ME.
THOSE ARE FACTS.
>>54095732
How much dick sucking do you want for ganging up on me like angry apes?
>>54095733
>TELL ME I SHOULDN'T BUY EHEADSET: I TELL YOU TO FUCK OFF
Why? Because you are determined to make a stupid purchasing decision? Because you want to waste your money on packaging that says "GAMING" on it? Because you want to have an overcomplex piece of plastic shit which is going to be worse than similarly priced, and even cheaper, headphones? You want to have to replace the entire thing when one part breaks or one wire gets loose?
You're free to be a retard. You're free to be an outspoken retard on 4chan. But you are not free from being judged and declared a retard by everyone else when you do so.
>>54095733
>capslock
oh god my sides, please be real.
>>54095733
Time to crank out the smuganimegirl folder
>>54095759
Because I want headphones with a microphone attached to it. I do not care about their appearance of whether they're made for "gaming" or not.
Oh look, more presumptions.
>>54095778
>Because I want headphones with a microphone attached to it
Why don't you buy headphones and attach a microphone to it? Then you'd end up with headphones with a microphone attached to it just like you state you want.
>>54095778
>do not care about their appearance
>People who do this hide their headphones when people come over, right?
Are you so mad you are arguing against yourself now?
>>54095818
Because that's fucking stupid.
Whatever, I got what I wanted and I'm leaving with it. Good job assholes. I sure as fuck learned my lesson.
>this damage control
what do you hope to accomplish anon? You're already typing at caps lock and misspelling easy to type words.
... actually are you still here? Or did you end up tossing your keyboard and mouse across your room in your chimp-out?
>>54095846
>Because that's fucking stupid.
It is fucking stupid to pay an extra $20-50 for some some Chinese peon to attach a microphone to headphones rather than do it yourself?
Here. Have some more rope.
>>54090409
agree
>>54095846
>I sure as fuck learned my lesson.
yeah, to lurk more, hopefully.
kek, i still can't get over the fact that you think suggesting MDR 7506 is elitism, that's fucking hilarious.
>>54095916
Can't you read you pretentious piece of shit?
It was a bad suggestion because it's not a headset.
You guys just do these mental gymnastics where you convince yourselves I said something I didn't say just so you have reasons to feel superior, don't you?
>>54095846
>Because that's fucking stupid.
A combined price of headphone + mic is much better in quality than a headset for the same price.
>>54095778
>I do not care about their appearance
Apparently you do. inb4 muh presumptions
>>54095507
>That's fucking stupid and I'm not gonna take that shit.
A heaset is much more stupid and shit.
Headsets combine a shitty mic and shitty drivers, 7 small drivers, and have a huge price mark up.
>Whatever, I got what I wanted and I'm leaving with it.
Then what of >>54095507
>I am actually intending to exchange these headphones.
At least try to have some consistency in your shitposting.
>>54095982
You can't piece together a microphone with your headphones. There are many problems with this that go beyond appearance. If you can't even imagine them then you're not worth talking to.
Also, if you're too much of a cheapstake to buy yourself a quality headset then why are you lecturing people about quality headphones?
And when I said I got what I wanted, I meant purchase advice. AGAIN, YOU MISCONSTRUED WHAT I SAID ON PURPOSE JUST TO HAVE A POINT TO MAKE. Or is your reading comprehension that shitty?
Fuck you.
>>54096013
You really don't know what you're talking about, huh. You're the one who isn't worth talking to.
>>54096042
I can't believe how serious you guys are about fucking sticking together a cheap microphone to headphones.
This is just an elaborate trolling scheme to scare away newfags, right?
You can't all be this retarded. It's impossible.
>>54095945
>>54096013
What happened to "I got what I wanted and I'm leaving with it."
Just leave already, it's embarrassing to see you pretending to know what you are talking about.
>>54096068
>This is just an elaborate trolling scheme to scare away newfags, right?
Yep, that's it, anon. It's not because of your purchase or attitude towards the world. It's okay, it's all just a trolling scheme.
>>54092024
HD600
DT880
He-400s
>>54096107
you mean 400i
>>54096068
>I can't believe how serious you guys are about fucking sticking together a cheap microphone to headphones.
Because they stick quality mics on $80 headsets? At worst you get the same shitty mic if you cannot be bothered to "seek advice" on a decent microphone.
>>54094439
>high end
>$80
>logitech
>gaming
>headset
>inline controls
You dun fucked up. Buy real headphones and a mic.
>>54096118
If you can find them for the same price as a pair of k702 go for it. In Australia they're almost twice the price.
>>54096120
Well why don't you take it all the way and just fucking tape speakers to your ears with ductape then? You'll get much better quality than shitphones and their tiny ass drivers for the same price. You're just paying for some taiwanese kid to make your speakers hold together with a plastic stick in the middle. That's dumb.
>>54096068
Your headset has literally the same quality mic as one you can purchase for less than 5 dollars.
Not only that, but the headphone itself is not very great sound quality wise. I know you don't fucking care about the sound quality but it's fucking headphones. Sound quality should literally be the first thing one should want to look at because audio is its job. It'd be a little silly to just buy a headphone just cause it looked nice and it ends up playing like shit. That's why the Beats solo is a joke because it's expensive as shit, plays like shit but looks really nice.
Anyways, back to the point. For 80$ you can get a much better deal because you're just essentially buying way better headphones with the same exact mic.
Do you know what the 80$ you spent on those headsets were spent on? the company just attaching the mic onto the headphone for you, and the headphone itself is not very good.
However, because of your less than human attitude, being self-righteous and an altogether almighty faggot people treated you the exact same way you treated them. Not only that, but you refuse to acknowledge the benefits of why people are suggesting to buy them separate in the first place because of your ignorant piss poor mannerisms.
Please re-evaluate your life. And stop resorting to CAPS LOCK FULL RAGE MODE HURRR GO FUCK YOURSELF AGGHH cause it only shows how far you've matured as a human being.
>>54096068
You may have missed
>A combined price of headphone + mic is much better in quality than a headset for the same price.
>I can't believe how serious you guys are about fucking sticking together a cheap microphone to headphones.
The microphone and drivers in a headset isn't exactly great like you so believe.
If you hate sticking on a mic on headphones so much, desktop mics are also an option. But no, headsets are much better and totally not shitty.
Keep rationalising your purchase.
>>54096196
Okay but you're still telling me I should buy a cellphone headset and tape it to the side of my headphones with velcro and pretend that it's sturdy and a good rig and that it's not fucking pathetic which makes me think that you probably dropped out of school at 12 to work your father's farm. :^)
>>54096180
>Well why don't you take it all the way and just fucking tape speakers to your ears with ductape then?
Are you sincerely asking this question or are you stating something even more retarded to try and mask the previously retarded statement?
>You'll get much better quality than shitphones and their tiny ass drivers for the same price
No, you would not. Are you posting presumptions like a hypocrite? Speakers are designed to project their sound with greater distance.
>>54096222
>gives you actual advice and backs it up with reason
>still acts like a uptight asshole
have you no humility nor shame? You really are a hypocrite.
>>54096227
>Are you sincerely asking this question
>>54096259
First time experiencing a rhetorical question?
>inb4minewasalsoarhetoricalquestion
Given your sperging in this thread it's kind of hard to tell if you are serious or not and fun to act like you are.
>>54096242
Yes because he's still trying to sell me on the gluing a microphone to my headset thing like I'm in a third world country.
How many times must you guys try to convince me that it's not a retarded solution before giving up?
>>54096286
>Buying a headset is the best solution.
>Yeah, fuck these guys. I made the right decision. I'm not wrong, they are.
>>54096286
if it's that stupid of a thing to you then just buy a desk mic and buy headphones separately.
Rather, why are you complaining about that in the first place? Seems like you refuse to acknowledge why headsets are bad so you just redirect the argument to how stupid the idea of attaching a mic to a headphone seemingly is.
>>54096286
then just buy a desk mic and headphone. Boom, you get way better headphones and a way better mic for essentially the same or even less price.
problem solved
>>54096315
>Seems like you refuse to acknowledge why headsets are bad so you just redirect the argument to how stupid the idea of attaching a mic to a headphone seemingly is.
Bingo!
He will fabricate any justification to buy headsets even though everyone tells him its retarded. Anyone that does not suggest headsets is posting "presumptions" rather than advice.
>>54096312
>>54096315
Yeah yeah yeah. Just making one last thing clear before I go to bed: You guys are buttmad that I'm not grateful about your useless little DIY construction paper project. But really... it's not my fault that you're useless.
Anyway, I'm going with the HyperX Cloud and returning my Logitech Gshit.
Thanks again for the tip, Anon.
Taa taa.
>>54096333
>You guys are buttmad
FUCK OFF MY HEADSET IS THE BEST
THIS IS FACT
>>54096333
>y-you guys are buttmad! I'm laughing my ass off as I speak!
I think it'd be sadder to imagine you actually laughing in your room instead of naturally being buttfrustrated and pretending that you're not online.
But knowing you, you're probably actually gloating in real life and that's just really really sad.
>>54095733
>SUGGEST ME HEADSET TO BUY: I SAY THANKS AND DO IT.
Beyerdynamic MMX300. Everything else is consumer retail trash. I dislike the HyperX Cloud as it sounds too thin and not analytic in comparison to a MSR7. And do not ever touch a M50X those are mud and dogshit.
>>54096454
>Beyerdynamic MMX300
Paying $200 for attaching a mic to DT770.
>>54096471
Shut up! But he wants a complete headset!
>>54096480
>But he wants a complete headset!
Of course. It's the only thing that would go well with a complete retard.
What the fuck is wrong with this kid?
Nobody said to glue a mic to his headphones, and here he is acting like it's all anybody said to him.
What a fucking retard.
>>54096454
>Beyerdynamic MMX300.
>5 year warranty if purchased from authorized dealer
>Just like prebuilt gaming PCs with their warranties if something happens stupid ppl don't know how to fix
>German made so it must be good
I say go for it. Its got good warranty. And if you can afford it get the Manufaktur MMX300 custom made edition ones.
>>54094439
I had the G230, sounds the same as the G430. Was too lazy to do my research and order headphones online at the time. Just wanted something decent that I can easily pick up at a local electronics retailer.
The mic was complete utter shit but the drivers didn't sound bad to me, it was a bit lacking in the bass department for gaming though and its soundstage was not great but okay. I found it decent for listening to music.
Didn't find the headband comfortable at all, it digs into my head and gave me headaches over prolonged use which is the primary reason I moved onto a different set.
There are definitely better options out there for the same price. Surround sound on G430 is a joke don't buy into it.
I gave my old pair to a friend and long since moved on to a more expensive set of fidelio X2s that sound miles better both soundstage and bass wise for gaming. I can pinpoint much more easily where sounds are coming from in the distance.
They aren't particularly bad for the music I listen to either, though sometimes I find myself yearning for a brighter set with bass that is present but not accentuated.
