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Old thread dead >>51837559
pic related I was strong enough, I dont need no memeboard
>>51856137
> can not tell mommy I want 160 dollar meme board
>>51856137
Buyer's Guide:
http://pastebin.com/QJD7fSGU
Where to Buy:
http://pastebin.com/8Yku80VL
FAQs:
http://pastebin.com/M5w7QtKp
Should we attempt to update the buyers guide?
1st for topre are just rubber dome for rich people
>>51858629
Last time we tried that the person who normally makes threads refused to use it.
>>51860091
I was just thinking of a "boards you will be mocked for but are decent" section
>>51860185
Do we really have to acquiesce to the casuals?
>>51860208
no, but it might cut back on the
>I found this is this good xD
>I want meme lights
posts
>>51859627
Why do people do this upside down space
those unicomp buckling spring keyboards are back on massdrop
>>51860462
>tfw no TKL or 60% buckling
>>51860443
comfortability
>>51861092
Is that brand druable?
How long have you been usign that noppoo?
What does /g/ think to the keyboard i have coming ?
>>51861092
I have tried it, doesn't do anything really for me desu
>>51861190
What are even the shit on the right for?
>>51861190
It's shit.
>>51861190
>>51861215
>dat bad english
Samefag some more, samefag.
Anyone know if you can mod a Ducky shine mini into a normal 60% case
I fucking hate the big shit around it
>>51861237
No I'm not him
>>51861241
Yeah, just google it
>>51861267
What are you googling because I an finding it?
First mechanical keyboard I've gotten, it does its job well enough, but I'd like some custom keycaps.
should i get cherry mx reds
>>51861190
it doesnt have labels on keys senpai
i suggest you get a refund
Does anyone own a CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate? I wanted to buy a Ducky Zero, but this one is just 10 euros more and has much more features.
Is it worth? I want something that lasts for a good time and with easily replaceable keycaps.
>>51861305
they're great in the first few months
they become mushy after a while. at least it happened with mine.
>>51861302
Sadly the bottom row looks custom as fuck
>>51861324
How so?
>>51861335
ctrl/super/alt aren't the same size
>>51861335
I would say the most common bottom row is
1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 6.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25 - 1.25
That looks like
1.50 - 1.00 - 1.25 - 6.50 - 1.25 - 1.00 - 1.00 - 1.50
>>51861354
Fair enough, I guess I just never noticed. It's kinda nice to have the smaller super key, gets hit by accident less often.
>>51861313
The QuickFire Ultimate has a non-standard row and the Ducky Zero looks to have regular bottom row.
Definitely avoid the QF Ultimate. Not necessarily recommending the Ducky Zero, though.
>>51861398
Shit, any info about the build quality? I mentioned the keycaps, but to be hones I never had problems with it even when I used a 10 year old membrane keyboard.
The Ultimate looks really good for the price. I found it for 94 euros, while the Zero is 89 and with that I get removable cables and backlight.
>>51861382
It mainly means you can never replace all your keycaps, which in this community is fucking terrible
>>51861433
No, I looked up an image to check the bottom rows of each board. I don't own either unfortunately. I do have a CM Storm QuickFire Rapid and I can tell you the build quality is so-so. The casing took a real beating. I'm.. not sure how. It's a fucking keyboard. I guess I put it in a bag to transport a few times but it's still surprising how scuffed up that rubberized coating got. Not sure if the Ultimate uses the same one. Can't quite tell. As far as keycaps and switches, the default caps were total ass but I replaced them (the quickfire rapid has a standard layout) so that was fine, and the switches are cherry mx still so that should be fine as well.
Are you sticking strictly to full size boards?
>>51861456
Yeah, that makes sense. Probably gonna have to pay out the ass to get custom keycaps if I ever get around to it.
>>51861433
removable cables are standard on mechanical keyboards unless you're getting a Model M or something. Heck, even the Apple Extended Keyboard II (and the non-extended one) had removable cables, not that they were a common cable. (fucking s-video)
>>51861298
"ducky mini case mod"
>>51861488
Yeah, I use the numpad a lot, so full size boards is a must.
>>51861506
The Ducky Zero doesn't have removable cables.
>>51861492
No, you really can't get any. Max is literally the only aftermarket retailer for a 6.5u space bar, and their caps won't be much of an improvement (if any).
>>51861492
Paying out the ass is something you could get over if it ended up looking good. I'm just not actually sure if you'll find any.
Was gonna say just get something else but I re-read and saw that you already have it.
Honestly, mechanical beats the fuck out of rubber dome. My friends and I all have several mechanicals now, and it's very satisfying when you go to grab a spare board for something and it's mechanical. Worst case, get a better keyboard in the future and just keep that one around. Better than a rubber dome for sure, even if the caps are shit.
>>51861507
literally nothing there
>>51861544
I'm not spoonfeeding you any harder, dude. Maybe someone else will.
>>51861523
>Yeah, I use the numpad a lot, so full size boards is a must.
I'm not here to argue with you, but most people who say this just haven't tried a tenkeyless and exaggerate how much they need a numpad.
I also used the numpad a lot when I had a fullsize board (back in membrane days). When I first got my TKL I adjusted pretty quickly. The worst that happened was I sometimes hit right arrow key when going for what used to be the numpad enter. The only other downside was that I wasn't used to numrow, so even though I typed 140+wpm, I was quite sluggish and inaccurate on the numrow. The problem here isn't that the numrow sucks, it's basically another row of letters, it's that I never learned to use it due to being handicapped by having a numpad. I love having the extra space. I've even moved on to a 60% board now. Having everything closer together is really great.
>>51861523
>The Ducky Zero doesn't have removable cables.
Hahaha, fuck that noise. Well, as I said before, despite saying the CM board is a bad idea, I cannot recommend the Ducky Zero. I actually never really fell in love with Ducky the way a lot of people do. I rank them only a little higher than Razer. I'm sure their build quality is a million times better, but they still feel like a normie board that comes with things I don't care about and without things I do care about.
>>51861525
>>51861534
True, true. I guess it's good that I like the aesthetics of it out the box, and stuff on max looks pretty terrible, at least to me. Whatever, I'll just get a new one when I feel like it haha.
>>51861600
>I guess it's good that I like the aesthetics of it out the box
I don't know how that could be, but okay.
>>51861585
What things do ducky boards have/dont have that you care about?
>>51861652
for one I don't care much about backlight, and it seems most of their boards have a gamer aesthetic
>tfw I was still in >>51852179 wondering why it ws going so slow
>>51861644
I'm a simple man. I like simple things. Also there aren't many other options, at least as far as I've seen, and they look like garbage to me.
>>51861664
>Ducky keyboards
>gaymer aesthetic
Everything has gaymen aesthetic if you turn the backlight on. If you're talking about the backlight being off, I have no idea what kind of gaymer aesthetic you are seeing in a ducky.
Looks just like a filco, spare the logo, without the backlights.
>>51861664
>a gamer aesthetic
I don't see how you can say that compared to shit like Corsair, Logitech, et al.
>>51861690
The logitech boards are the exact opposite of simple.
>>51861699
>I don't see how you can say that compared to shit like Corsair, Logitech, et al.
I am not comparing to those companies. I wouldn't buy things from them either.
>>51861698
I don't think I am misinformed on mechanical keyboards, but perhaps I'm being unfair about Ducky specifically.
Name your favorite Ducky boards (or post pics) and I'll look at them and decide what I think.
I used a CM Storm QuickFire Rapid for a while, currently using a Pok3r with Greens. I also own a Model M, AEK II, and my brother owns a V60, Novatouch, a couple Code keyboards, etc.
>>51861780
Here's my Shine 4 with vortex doubleshot translucent keycaps.
More incoming
If I like the Pok3r and the Novatouch would a Happy Hacking Keyboard satisfy me?
Mostly asking how similar the Novatouch switches are to actual Topre, or whatever is in each board, but also want to hear thoughts from people here who have tried the Happy Hacking Keyboard.
>>51861805
Here's an older shot. It obviously looks somewhat gaymer if you have the lights on, but just going from the case and the caps I don't see very much gaymen aesthetic in there.
>>51861780
For real though, almost all duckies with the lights off are the most plain boards you'll see. Have a look at the shine series, the zeroes, he'll almost all of them
>>51861838
One more.
Even with the lights this doesn't feel very gaymen to me.
>>51861761
So let's say you're an enthusiast and you get a set of Gateron PBT or some shit to slap on a Ducky Shine, and you turn off the backlight (because who wants the keyboard equivalent of neon car undercarriage lights?). What aspect of it is "gaymer"?
>>51861807
>Mostly asking how similar the Novatouch switches are to actual Topre
The domes, springs, and PCB on the NT are all manufactured by Topre. The HHKB is a different beast because it does not have a metal mounting plate, which leads to a rather different feel.
>>51861861
Some people sperg out over the spacebar.
>>51861884
>Some people sperg out over the spacebar
I actually wish I would have gotten the YOTH edition spacebar with this.
I really have no idea which to buy for at most 100 euros. I can't find any info on either the Ducky Zero and the CM Storm Quickfire Ultimate.
I ordered the last one to be delivered to one store for me to test it. I really don't care about anything on a keyboard other than build quality and Brown Switches, which I already tested and loved.
>>51861913
Did you test anything else than browns?
>>51861913
you can get a quickfire ultimate for 100? Usually those are like 130 or so atleast where I've seen em
>>51861913
>geekhack()org/index.php?topic=47287.0
apparently ultimate is shit compared to the XT
>>51861960
I found it on the Netherlands for 99 on Paradigit, there's even for something like 94 online, but I'd like to be able to test it before buying.
>>51861939
Yeah, I have a gaymer friend with Blacks, other with Reds and one with Browns. I liked more the way brown feels.
>>51861993
The XT is unavailable everywhere.
>>51861302
Do qwerty keyboard not have meme arrows?
>>51862069
Oh nevermind, I just noticed they're above the point and comma.
>>51862107
o_O
>>51862026
>The XT is unavailable everywhere.
if you live close to raalte you can go pick one up there at Azerty. They have like 5 in stock but won't ship them over online orders for some reason
if you can't be bothered, I'd recommend ducky zero, it's around the same quality as the XT, maybe even higher if you believe what most people say
http://prijsvergelijker.computertotaal.nl/productinfo/270203/ducky-zero-dk2108-cherry-brown
try checking out your local electronics store to see if they have a blue switch. Unless ofcourse you really can't have sound (in which case any mechanical is probably a bad idea without o rings)
I was surprised how little sound blues make after hearing how people say they're oh so loud
>>51862069
>>51862107
>another azertybro
>tfw will have to get used to shitposting with my right hand after being used to finding my shitpostarrow right next to left shift
>>51862175
Your second meme line doesn't make sense.
>>51859627
Where'd you get the Moogle set?
>>51862200
I ordered an iso board because there's less choice in ansi boards
>>51862247
Ow, I don't know the differences between iso and ansi, but all Azertys I've used 'till now had the green line arrows on the left.
>>51862335
iso isn't azerty
>>51862247
>I ordered an iso board because there's less choice in ansi boards
There's a whole lot of choice in ANSI boards, unless you're looking to order from within your region. Problem with ISO is that the selection of aftermarket caps is far smaller.
>>51862377
Ahh, clears up a lot. Thanks for enlightening me bro.
Any recommendations on removing caps with stabilizers? Saw a few ways,but wanted to see if /g/ has any secret methods
>>51862437
If you're replacing caps, just take that motherfucker out with some pliers.
>>51861780
Ducky Legend
>>51862437
hold breath and pull
>>51862474
>>51862465
how are you nerds posting, posting is down
>>51862437
you mean wire stabilizers right?
https://youtu.be/NADlUip6lMY?t=645
>>51862397
>>51862422
wait fuck I mixed them up, I meant I got an ansi board after being used to iso
Only ISO boards I could find were a single quickfire TK, the filco majestouch 2 & some IT layouts from italian sites that didn't ship here
>>51862069
>azerty
>www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/3u96ss/
>>51862502
Dude You can map an ANSI keyboard to another layout at the operating system level
So I was just wondering, can Topre be considered mechanical?
>>51862786
>got like 50$ for that shit
fuck man
>>51862806
I don't know how compatible they'd be
if I change my "layout" to US, the > < \ key turns into the \| key above the small enter key
so I don't know what the fuck would happen if I tried to place a large enter key on a US board, if it would even fit
azerty users are already familiar with OS level layout changing because like a fifth of the games don't allow rebinding, so they force you to change into US layout so you can actually play normally
>>51862945
Oh. How am I supposed to circle jerk to these threads then?
Sup guys, I'm looking for black on black pbt keycaps. Any ideas?
>>51862959
just say that topre feels amazing and cherry switches feel like rough shit
Why is this so popular?
>>51863245
It's 60% + arrows And offers a lot of switches which are usually rare.
Personally I think the case is hideous and too thick (and terrible screws) also massdrop a shit but otherwise I'd like to see more "65%" around.
>inb4 Leopold
Who thought "insert" was a worthy enough key?
>>51863245
Because it's matt3o's personal meme keyboard.
It could literally consist of one button and a neon pink color scheme and people would still buy it.
>>51863310
me
I use insert & delete more than page up or page down
>>51863245
relatively cheap for what it offers
Multiple layouts
Multiple switches
65% which is pretty rare
I ordered one, but decided I didnt need it really
KUL ES-87 or CODE keyboard /g/uys ?
>>51863833
I'd personally go with a WASD board over the KUL ES-87
Both are good options though, if you want TKL Just go with the KUL or a leopold
>>51861861
The spacebar is pretty bad and I honestly just find fullsize boards ugly now I think. Spacebar is minor considering keycaps are swappable.
The Duck Mini is pretty ugly, too.
>>51861884
>So let's say you're an enthusiast and you get a set of Gateron PBT or some shit to slap on a Ducky Shine, and you turn off the backlight (because who wants the keyboard equivalent of neon car undercarriage lights?). What aspect of it is "gaymer"?
Maybe it was a poor choice of words. I think my issue is just that most of their boards are fullsize.
>>51862908
of course, pretty sure buckling spring also includes a rubber dome
>>51863376
delete is important of course, but insert is a key I have only ever hit on accident
home and end are quite important, I definitely use them more than page up and page down
>>51864088
i've only ever intentionally used insert when coding, but its easier to simply use insert to type over something if you don't have your hand at your mouse to select all and you don't want to either grab your mouse or use shift to select what you want to overwrite
>>51864117
I just hit cl or cw or c$ or whatever
vim for life
>>51864066
No, Model Ms use a rubber membrane.
>>51864168
btw I don't even program I just edit everything in vim
>>51864185
are we just arguing semantics here? I don't really see why you said no and then followed up with what I said
>>51864168
I'm pretty entry level so I never used vim and I've never heard of any of those
QUICK
TELL ME WHY I SHOULD GET A MECHANICAL KEYBOARD INSTEAD OF USING MY CHICLET ONE
GO
>>51864215
A membrane is a flat sheet. A dome is a raised, round semisphere. This is not "semantics".
>>51864249
you shouldn't
>>51864249
No, go fuck yourself.
>>51864295
no u
>>51864249
If you're such a poorfag that you can't justify spending ~$70 on a keyboard, then don't.
>>51863922
apparently a lot of people don't like the sound of the kul when you bottom out, check that out at the very least if you're thinking about getting it
>>51860462
Oh thank you based anon, I've been looking for a good spot to pick one of these up.
>>51862973
You mean like those of the realforce?
Nomechanicalkeyboardsinstock.com has these here
http://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=287
Otherwise you'll just have to get a realforce of a HHKB
>>51863922
So you think the KUL ES-87 is better than the CODE TKL ?
>>51864485
>the reason to buy stuff is because you can afford it
>>51861310
I don't really believe that anyone here need labels on their keyboard
>>51864599
Yeah? I bought a nice coffee maker because I enjoy coffee, but if I was a poorfag, I'd make it on the stove top.
>>51864574
I didn't even fucking know there was a code TKL, also see >>51864490
>>51864685
please tell me you are only in /g/ because of battle station threads. your logic skills are shocking.
>>51864599
yes?
you think anyone would buy a lambo if they couldn't spare the money?
everyone would be driving in 1k$ second hand hondas
you buy nicer things because you have the money
>>51864835
starting your posts with a uni-word question does not award you enough points to look cool here. according to your logic you'd buy a hammock at $100 the second you have $100 because you can afford it now.
>>51864953
well if I often used a hammock, had the spare money and wanted a higher quality hammock, I would indeed buy a 100$ hammock
>>51864828
Battle station threads are cancer as fuck. I haven't posted in one of those for years. They're nothing but attention whores and shills.
>>51864953
If you use your keyboard a lot, why shouldn't you buy a nice keyboard? The cost per time used is definitely worth it for the majority of people on here, plus it's a hobby
>>51856137
Tobre is da best :-D
>>51864988
MY QUESTION IS WHAT'S *NICE* ABOUT A MECHANICAL KEYBOARD THAT WOULD MAKE ME WANT TO BUY. IS IT AESTHETICS? MEME VALUE? WHAT?
CRUISE CONTROL IS NOW OFf
>>51865040
www.google.com
>>51865040
build quality
the feelng of the keypress
keycap quality
customization
etc.
>>51865040
It feels really nice to use.
There are some other benefits over membrane based keyboards, but the one I mentioned is by far the most important aspect.
>>51865040
Once u try Topre you feel disgusted by other keyboards.
>>51865040
And I told you to go fuck yourself.
>>51865066
>search why to use a product
>find totally unbiased websites trying to sell their shit
>>51865075
>>51865076
>>51865090
thanks i will buy a topre im intrigued enough
>>51865107
+1 karma my friend XD
>>51865040
Fuck off
>>51865119
>I don't want other websites giving their reviews and opinions on mechanical keyboards, I only want 4chan to spoonfeed me instead.
>>51865119
Wait, you're getting a topre as your first mech?
You sure like diving in the deep end.
>>51865119
>thanks i will buy a topre im intrigued enough
>I'll just buy the most expensive and least liked switch without testing
see you in a week or so when you come back to shitpost about "the mechanical keyboard meme" and how "mechanical keyboards are shit"
>>51865165
>Topre
>Least liekd
What a terrible taste
>>51865177
by that I mean, there's the fewest amount of people that actually have tried and liked topre switches
some people swear by them, but most haven't tried them or don't like them
it's also pretty easy to imagine what the cherry switches feel like, but topre is like a whole other thing
does anyone have one of these and if so what do they think of it?
>>51865177
they are shit tho 2bh
only normie beta fags like them because they're quiet and their henpecking gfs would whine about how loud blues are
>>51865232
some people really love them, but I'd never try it
Really wouldn't go for it as a first or a second keyboard
>>51865232
my cousin built one to play WoW with. It felt weird. I'm sure if you used it a lot you'd get use to it.
>>51865436
don't you need a mouse to play wow?
>>51865520
He has a whole weird setup. I have no idea never played. Pretty sure he posts to r9k
>>51865545
>Pretty sure he posts to r9k
how awful
rate
>>51865520
To loook yes.
Unless he does nothing but casual content where timing means nothing.And he can keyboard turn
>>51865575
Entry level.
>>51865603
This is my first mech, yeah.
Are mechanical keyboards worth it if you're a piss-poorfag?
I managed to get $100 to spend on whatever I'd like, but I'm not sure what I should prioritize my spending on.
I have a decent enough:
>HDTV
>monitor
>gaymen mouse
>an okay computer
>speakers
>phone
What I don't have
>headphones
>decent keyboard
>laptop
I stopped playing osu! intensively because my keyboard is dying and too mushy, but other than Dota I don't play a lot of games. I strive to become a sysadmin so lots of typing, but I don't really notice the feel of my keyboard when I'm typing.
>>51865694
You can get a good entry level mech at that price point. Less so a laptop or a pair of headphones.
Get a ducky zero.
>>51865694
A mechanical KB is the last thing you should be spending on. I don't think they even feel better, Cherry KBs have pathetic feedback and the smoother bottom out on membrane feels more comfortable. Use that money on the laptop.
>>51865575
how good is the quality on that keycap set?
13$ for a 104 key set seems way too cheap to be decent for a doubleshot set
>>51865694
mouse (if you game a lot)
monitor (first if you don't game that much)
headphones
hardware
keyboard
in that order. If you have good speakers and don't really need headphones, go for the keyboard
I'd take a good pair of headphones over a keyboard anyday if I didn't already have a decent pair of headphones
You can literally hear the difference the moment you put them on if you're only used to cheap shit or GAMER HEADSETS
some time left https://www.crowdsupply.com/ugl/ultimate-hacking-keyboard
>>51865786
Normally 35 it looks like,they're on sale
>>51865832
I can approve this list
>>51865844
>ultimate hacking keyboard
>video starts with "YOUR KEYBOARD IS HOLDING YOU BACK"
how can they lose 100% of my hope in like ten seconds
>>51865860
>>51865832
You seem legit anon
Would you recommend used ATH M50s?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B004ZG9TMA/ref=dp_olp_used?ie=UTF8&condition=used
>>51865938
Not that guy but I've heard they have niggerbass, are uncomfy and also they're closed
You might wanna check out something like Superlux hd668b, those are fucking amazing value if you are on any sort of budget.
>>51865938
hop in headphone general
IIRC, I've heard people saying they liked the M40 more than the M50. But I don't know about the different version or if it changed or if it was just because they're cheaper.
>>51865989
I went for a clone/similar pair, samson SR850s because I wanted velour/cloth pads. They're pretty nice but I have no comparison other than shitty headsets
but yeah just hop into /hpg/, it's pretty slow but they'll prob be able to help you out
>>51866044
My bro bought one of those new (Evo?) versions and those had velours too. I'm a bit funny though since I don't really mind leather pads.
But yeah, anon should go to /hpg/
Is the Vengeance K70 any good?
I'm guessing no but worth asking. Want it for gayming and coding mostly. I've got no experience with mechanical keyboards so I have no idea about switch preferences and stuff
>>51866139
no.
Get a quickfire
>>51866139
Mechanicals don't really help gaymen because they have longer key trajectories than most normal keyboards. If you want to have an optimal setup for gaymen, stick to cheap low-profile boards. At least if you don't mind typing on such board, I certainly don't.
>>51866105
>I'm a bit funny though since I don't really mind leather pads.
I think most people don't mind leather pads, it's just me
>>51866139
get a switch tester before you buy a board
>>51866277
>tester
Go to best buy and try out the switches.Its probly going to be on corsair shit,but switches are switches
>>51866341
well, ofcourse if you have that opportunity do it
but some anon recently said even in the US the best buys near him only had blues out to test
>>51866341
I went to a local back alley pc repair shop to check switches before I bought one. The owner looked like a longer bearded Dennis Ritchie and talked me forever about his first keyboards he used.
Got a Corsair Strafe RGB MX Silent for $80 at Best Buy
Did I don gud?
>>51866200
The travel distance of switches can be reduced with O-rings, and longer travel time is not objectively inferior for gaming.
who /topre/ here
>>51866433
It's not objectively superior at least, that's for sure. Using a mech doesn't give you any advantage for vidya.
>>51866400
>local back alley pc repair shop
>>51866477
Alright. I just wanted to debate what >>51866200
said about
>If you want to have an optimal setup for gaymen, stick to cheap low-profile boards.
>>51866477
>>51866528
Lesser force to actuate depending on which switch you get.Not exclusive to gaymen,but helps with fatigue from typing.
>>51866468
What stereo receiver(?) is that?
>>51865767
Wow its almost as if people have different options and preferences
>>51866493
it really is, It went from a booming street front shop to a back of the building 3rd floor dust zone. One of the pre apple store mac and pc stores.
>>51866822
point was dont go to shitty places to try enthusiast grade product
>>51866870
may of been shitty place but I learned more being there for 20mins then anything from these threads or ripsters cult
What advantages do traditional mechanical switches offer over Topre switches, other than price and availability?
>>51866942
You lead your post to be read as you got nothing from it and the owner was RMS of keyboards.
>>51867002
sorry for your misunderstanding.
>>51866965
Keycap compatibility. Custom keycap sets account for the largest share of mechanical keyboard cost by far, especially if you have it for more than about two months and buy multiple keysets. The tooling to make Topre caps is so much more expensive for something that already isn't cheap, and so few people own Topre boards that nobody else will buy the same set as you.
>>51867095
Solved pretty easily with the Novatouch or some modding.
Even Topre themselves are likely to put the MX compatible hybrid stems on their own boards soon.
Give me inspiration for key caps on my bland model M
Probably just gonna do the whole main section.
>>51868009
are you going to dye them or buy? I'd do just blue arrow keys and red escape key.
>>51868045
Buying probably.
Came up with this
>>51868158
I'm thinking it might look bad with the tan shell though.
>>51868180
Bleach it
Is this a good first purchase, White leds, mx browns, tkl, iso layout.
It's everything I've been looking for.
>>51868288
If you can handle the atrocious font,yes
>>51868288
jesus look at the fucking font on those keycaps.
>>51868373
>>51868375
>Looking at your keyboard
>>51868398
still looks fucking horrible, just admit you fucked up
>>51868398
Why get tkl then? If you arent ever looking at it,then you wont mind the numpad being there.PLus you have to learn new function codes to supplement your missing keys.
So yeah you'll be looking at it faggot
>>51868419
I like festive frog. And did jackie 4chan trip over a wire it's been slow of fug today
>>51868398
>Not having a keyboard worth looking at
so what's the consensus on the Novatouch TKL? Seems like an easy way to get into Topre without compromises. That downright sexy switch look and the quicker actuation point are appealing. At $200 you're definitely in enthusiast range, whereas the 100-130 is justifiable for normies.
Currently have a poker 3 and I like it, but I think something quieter than blues (yes, I use orings) with arrow keys would be nice. The main downsides I can see are the CM logo on the back, microusb instead of mini, and plenty of coolermaster memes.
>>51869400
There's a couple anons that grabbed the coolermaster switch tester with it and they said it felt great. I'm forever waiting for that switch tester to arrive.
senpai
thx senpai
fá Žaá Žm
>>51869481
Yes! finally got it. It's unicode 180e
tá Žbá Žh fá Žaá Žm
>>51869400
>sexy switch look
Huh?
>CM logo on the back
While not ideal, at what angle could you even see it?
>microusb instead of mini
How is a higher insertion rating a downside?
>plenty of coolermaster memes
What does this even mean?
>>51869400
>At $200
It's 169 right now on amazon.
>>51869558
The switches are gorgeous, even though it of course won't affect usability.
The logo isn't a real problem, though many of my keyboards have had them on the bottom of the keyboard. It's kind of like a front facing carrier logo on a smartphone, it just doesn't look good. However, this is an okay compromise.
Insertion rate isn't everything. There's a reason miniUSB is still used, and that's because it doesn't break/bend as easily, it's pretty much the standard for removable keyboard cables, and it does the job just fine.
>plenty of coolermaster memes
Coolermaster's boards are viewed as entry level.
>>51869400
There's a very good reason why they picked micro-USB. It's designed to make the cable end more likely to break than the port. Then you can just get a new cable. The port on the board is very firmly attached but allows small wiggles to not wear out the port as quickly.
>>51869649
>The switches are gorgeous, even though it of course won't affect usability.
Oh - the look of the switches, you meant. Yeah, they're cool.
>that's because it doesn't break/bend as easily
The female end? If you open up a NT, you can see that's not happening here. They bolted that shit down tight.
>Coolermaster's boards are viewed as entry level.
I really do hope that does not play into any consideration you are making.
>>51869495
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>>51861252
how does this "joke" even make any sense
>>51862026
You should try testing clears and blues too. Reds and blacks are both linear, so they're very different and weird to type on, especially at first. Clears are stiffer browns with a larger actuation point, much better feel than browns imo. Blues are similar to browns, except they're slightly stiffer with a click. For some reason they feel far better to type on than browns, even though on paper they're fairly similar besides noise.
If you want a nice quiet, all around switch, I'd definitely suggest clears over browns, and for the nicest switch overall I'd suggest blues. I'd have blues right now if they weren't as loud as they are, went with clears instead.
Take everything I say with a grain of salt though, as like everyone says, switches are all personal preference.
>>51870014
>>51862026
>browns
Browns are like typing on a marshmallow,with an underwhelm click
Look, it's the latest in artisan keycaps! Only $40 new, will probably be sold for double on eBay afterwards.
...
..
.
What the fuck is it? No really, what is this thing?
>>51870044
an anus?
>>51863833
I have a CODE TLK with clears, zero complaints
>>51870044
Just buy it then resell it to whatever artisankek will buy it.
>>51865090
except Topre isn't mechanical :^)
also, here's my mechanical keyboard
>>51864622
I do. I type at 35 wpm while looking at the keyboard.
And yeah I take it in the ass
>>51860443
>>51861092
Reddit memes 2bh
>>51870154
What keyboard?
>>51866965
They're not rubberdomes :^)
Is the newest Ducky Shine out in the US yet?
I can't find it the places I've looked
>>51870532
damn nigga that's slow
>>51858629
>>51860091
>>51860185
>>51860185
>>51860208
>>51860385
A different person usually makes thread every time.
Which is why we occasionall[ have ergodox is god OP threads, and other times Topre is god OP threads.
Anyway, instead of listing specific boards, I think we should list brands on the buyers guide.
Split it between good, good for the price, and bad.
We could also mention a few noteworthy boards (like that hotswappable one).
>>51865232
I have one, it is fantastic.
Fun as fuck to actually build and program a keyboard too.
>>51872245
>A different person usually makes thread every time.
Then the people who make the threads refused to use the website someone made.
>Anyway, instead of listing specific boards, I think we should list brands on the buyers guide.
Bad idea. Not every CM board is equal, for example.
>>51872285
this one? http://installgentoo.wikia.com/wiki/Keyboards
I think it just got left out of an op a few times and then never got added back
>>51872352
>I think it just got left out of an op a few times
For good reason.
>>51866468
I am too poor to afford the Type-S model, but I like the Pro 2. Only bought it because it was insanely cheap compared to the usual prices.
I am really curious to know what the FC660C is like. It's also 45g but apparently has an aluminum backplate which could be even better and make all the difference in typing. I must admit I feel like it would be better.
>>51856137
Trying to order swtiches from mechanicalkeyboards.com
They want to charge me $35 to ship to Japan.
Is there anywhere else I can get switches shipped internationally?
>>51872750
Following up to this, I have also been using MX Clear lately. Is there any way of getting 62g Clears without modding?
Anyone knows a good cherry mx red keyboard with white led backlights?
>>51872849
Is my best bet just getting a corsair RGB or Razer chroma?
What other brands make customizable backlights?
>>51872849
>>51872921
So I found these two
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=957
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=257
I already have a very similar ducky with browns.
Anyone knows this other brand?
>>51872352
No.
>>51872971
Both are reputable brands, although I personally think they're ugly
>>51872971
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=N82E16823201071
This one's rgb as well
>>51873371
I agree that the max keyboard isn't exactly good looking, but duckys are pretty nice
>>51873408
I prefer the looks of the max one actually, better font and I like that mesh on the right
My friend wants to get into mechs, I'm getting him this for Christmas
How'd I do
>>51873495
retarded memeshit/10
>>51873495
I like the simple unbranded look but blanks may be problematic for a beginner. Color scheme is a bit bold but works out alright. That key right above enter would bother me.
?/10 don't know exactly what board that is.
>>51873714
He'll be fine he can touch type. I guess I could show him the layout so he learns the FN keys
What color scheme would you suggest? And it's a quickfire rapid, picked it up on cyber Monday for $50
>>51863245
>kiwi
hello friend
>>51863245
>those ugly exposed screws
Ewwww
And it is popular because small keyboards are popular. But anyone who has ever used a 60% has realized having to use function layers for the most basic of tasks is retarded, and therefore want something small but with more keys.
>>51873976
>>51863245
Kiwi Keyboard brehs in hea
>>51872352
That page hasn't been updated in a year m8, and it makes no mention of other alps colors, rarer cherry mx colors like white/grey and cherry clones like gateron
Recommend boards and prices are outdated and new boards should be added, along with recommended kits/resources if you wanna DIY
>>51873826
Good entry board.
Red escape key is a classic but the bright modifiers are a bit jarring. A darker blue would solve it without being too boring.
Doing that and making a few more keys use the modifier color would create this masterpiece (which is totally not a ripoff of one of the most popular color schemes).
hnnng dat font
Is kbtalking a decent brand?
>>51874543
sorry pic related
>>51863245
If it was 75% instead it would be GOAT. I need muh function keys.
>>51869649
>Coolermaster's boards are viewed as entry level.
well novatouch IS babby's first topre
>>51873826
>And it's a quickfire rapid, picked it up on cyber Monday for $50
fucking sick bro
>>51856137
>tfw my order transaction screwed up
>missed out on muh keycaps
>Ausfag so the caps are unobtainium at a decent price
>missed notification email because I was busy with a faggots fuck up at work
>absolutely livid
guys I think I'm about to drop 250$ on a Leopold FC660C from Korea to EU
Oh god please stop me
currently only ever used blues
>>51874613
>I was busy with a faggot
I don't care about your sex life you homo
>>51874910
buy a switch tester if you can't try it out beforehand
don't be stupid
It'll probably be annoying as fuck to return it if you don't like it
>>51874942
>buy a switch tester
>topre
the only one I know of is the coolermaster and the novatouch is a fake shitty clone anyway
everyone confirms.
>>51874910
>paying $250 for meme rubberdome
don't do this
>>51874957
>the novatouch is a fake shitty clone anyway
it uses topre parts
but yeah you go waste your money, don't come crying about it here then though
>>51874985
>it uses topre parts
the novatouch rattles like a motherfucker and that doesn't come off from a single key tester so it would be futile.
part of the charm of topre is supposed to be the thock sound compared to the click clack of my blues.
also shitty abs keycaps
>>51875012
>shitty abs keycaps
>I can't try out how the switch feels because that keyboard has different keycaps
i'm not telling you to get a novatouch instead of a leopold or whichever keyboard you want, i'm telling you to test out the feeling of a topre as it's a switch not many people like and returning something to korea will be fucking hell
other than the plate and the caps, it uses the same parts as different topre keyboards, so you'll still be able to test how the topre switch feels
if you solely want a topre keyboard for the THOCK go ahead
>>51873976
Hi friend
Goodnight friends
>>51875082
goodnight friend
Are there any good artisan caps out there? I just want a nice subtle design not some gaudy, hipster shit.
>>51875108
no I know you want gummy huge robot skulls
and you need to die
>>51874563
Maybe so, but I just want a tenkeyless with something other than cherry switches without looking into chinkshit gateron's, zealios, etc
Not to mention the extent of any custom topre keycaps is blanks or ugly tan sets with Windows 95 styled Winkeys.
Tell me of a tkl with topre that looks even reasonably decent, has a detachable cable, and is under 300 and maybe I'll consider it.
>>51875194
>sets with Windows 95 styled Winkeys
those are the best
>>51875194
well usually people who get topre boards already have 1-2 other mechanicals.
novatouch kind of bridges that gap
I'm not saying it's bad, their rapid is also babby's first mechanical. That one's also good
>>51875210
It has the best logo when colored, but black & white I prefer XP's logo, especially on a keycap
>>51875210
lel. If I must have a Windows reference on my modifier, the very lowest I'll go is "WIN"
And this is coming from somebody who uses Windows for a lot of stuff and doesn't even mind the Win95 style.
poker 2 iso guy here.
I wrote to the anon who gave me his throwaway email the other day
If anyone else is interested, I'm selling a poker2 with mx BLUES with two keyset
>german grey PBT
>italian white abs
+ rgb PBT modifiers, original box and keypuller.
50€ + shipping.
>>51875520
What's the point of it being so small? Do you live in a closet?
Does anyone here have a WASD CODE? I'd like to ask questions about it
>>51875587
>>What's the point of it being so small?
I can bring it anywhere and the mouse stays closer.
>>51875597
I have a CODE TKL with greens. What's up?
General question for the thread-- I know the CODE and WASD v2 have the same guts as the Filco and QFR TKLs. Where the ACTUAL fuck can you get aftermarket cases for any of these? The only ones I can find are those aluminum Vortex cases and they've been sold out for months.
>>51875667
Where the fuck are you bringing it to?
>20 hours left
>$140
>75 purchased
>200 orders minimum
>it's been up for weeks
It's going to crash and burn. I'm actually happy about it. Fuck the memes.
>>51875718
Work.
Parents home.
>>51874910
Going from blues is probably gonna be disappointing.
If you wanna try something new, go for greens.
Best bet would be building your own board. It is really easy to do with the all but switch PCBs.
I got greens after trying blues/browns/blacks and I'm disappointed
I knew they're supposed to be harder than blues but it feels off.. like it's not just clicky but also mushy, blues feel so much better.
>>51863245
Fuck man, my full-size Filco cost less than that.
>>51875777
dude you should have spent a little bit more and got some letters
So this makes me wonder, I can fully touch type and almost never have to look at the keyboard, but how do you deal with having no descriptions on the keys?
>>51875823
>almost never
we git gud and reach "never"
>>51875837
So what if you have to use some rare symbol you never use usually? Or some function key?
>>51875795
>I cannot touch type
varmilo vs quickfire rapid which is better I want to get greens
>>51875869
>some rare symbol
like what? I can type
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by heart, I don't think I'm gonna need anything else more than once every 6 years, in which case i can always google where the damn thing is
ordered the whitefox but can't decide between gateron blues or mx clears. what do?
>>51875837
Sometimes people want to type something quick while standing, with one hand or in some other awkward position. Touch typing gets really hard when you can't feel around or rely on the home row.
>>51875885
guess it werks for you then.
>>51875895
>79 people like this
>>51875898
>>Sometimes people want to type something quick while standing
I'm not a cashier.
sucks to be you
>>51875935
Neither am I. Sucks to have such poor interpretation skills.
>>51875725
ugly af m8
>>51875971
if you need to type with one hand you either
>work standing, in which case your job sucks
>are a filthy pig eating by your keyboard, in which case you don't have my sympathy
also in most cases if you are so "busy" you need to just type shit like "sorry afk" or "phone" or write down a simple address/number.
>>51875882
>I cannot touch type
it's like you want to stay pleb
>>51875924
I don't even
>>51876065
learn to 4chan nigger he is talking about >>51875795
>>51876089
>nigger
I'm not the one who can't touch type
stay mad
>>51875675
I just got mine and I noticed a few scratches on the white steel plate behind the switches, and the wire cap puller makes some as well. Is this normal? I thought it was anodized so this wouldn't happen.
Also what's the polling rate for the CODE/V2? is it 1000hz? it doesn't say it on their site at all.
>>51875764
The last word ever used to describe greens should be mushy.
Sure you got greens?
>>51856137
Fellow swefag detected
>>51875989
There are a multitude of objects which may keep one of your hands temporarily busy in a professional environment. These include:
* Phones
* Documents
* Computer mice
* Refreshing or hot beverages
It is sometimes nice, but not necessary, to be able to quickly punch in short key sequences without having to assume a fully seated position with correct arm placement for touch typing. Examples of such situations may include:
* Quickly logging in in the morning and then doing something else while a connection to company infrastructure is established.
* Briefly operating a computer while holding a meeting standing.
* Momentarily typing something on a keyboard belonging to someone else while they are seated, as can happen in collaborative environments.
Did you know that poor language skills, poor imaginative ability and lack of empathy may be signs of autism?
>>51876215
This post was made by a certified faggot
Typing with blues is so much louder than just testing them out holy fuck
ohwell time to do some speedtests how much faster/slower I am out of the box
>>51869400
I have a Pok3r with Greens and my brother got the Novatouch TKL. Both boards are very nice. If I could combine them, I think that would be my ideal board. The Novatouch feels very nice to type on.
What are my choices for a 60% topre board?
I like the actuation force of greens if that helps. The Novatouch also feels okay.
>>51875764
the board is definitely the problem.. what board did you get?
could be related to the plate or maybe the caps but if they're genuine greens you should be able to do something to make them feel how they should
>>51876551
pretty much nothing
>>51875898
>ouch typing gets really hard when you can't feel around or rely on the home row.
can't feel around, sure, but home row is just a meme
I don't type using homerow and I can do everything just fine at 140+wpm. Mostly lefthanded typing. (although I am right handed)
>>51876569
KBtalking one 108
I mean it's still clicky, it just feels worse than blues to me I can't really describe it
>>51876575
Followup question: can you buy novatouch switches anywhere? I haven't done much keyboard customization aside from caps, but I'd like to just shove novatouch switches in my pok3r. Well, I think I would. If I got them all in and it felt like shit I'd be pretty upset.
>>51876586
Hm. Okay, that's a weird brand I only heard of earlier today and also from this thread.
I've got a V60 from KBParadise with Clears and they felt like mushy shit, but then I tried a Code keyboard with Clears and they felt completely different. I looked into it and the V60 was defective as hell and felt mushy to everyone. Not sure which piece was the issue.
As someone who used to love Blues and then fell in love with Greens, let me tell you that you shouldn't give up, but should probably get a new board. The Pok3r feels god tier.
>>51876137
It's not anodized, it's just painted steel -- and I don't know what the polling rate is, I'm afraid.
>>51876605
http://www.banggood.com/Cherry-Green-KBT-KBTalking-ONE-108-Backlit-Mechanical-Gaming-Keyboard-p-946504.html
It's this one, the black one
>>51876590
Lol no you need rubber domes and the circuitry.
Literally look on google what topre is
Novatouch just added a cross on the stem to mount your keys
>>51876639
stem =/= switch but I guess maybe it's more complicated than I thought
>>51876625
>banggood
holy shit lmao my mom bought me pants off this site the other day
>>51876657
They are not switches goddamnit
>>51876668
okay
>>51876667
Yeah it has mechanical keyboards for some reason, I got a ducky from there too
>>51876667
what kind of pants?
>>51876679
lined with soft stuff, side zipper pockets, sinchable leg bottoms
Im used to azerty and I just got my first mechanical thats in qwerty. Do you guys think it'd be better to change pc's input to qwerty or leave it at azerty to get a feeling of the keyboard?
>>51876667
You do realize they sell more than electronics, yes?
They even sell sex toys and lingerie
>>51876679
>what kind of pants?
these bad boys
>>51876769
So you're saying this anon's >>51876718 mom probably ordered a sex toy and the pants where just a cover up?
>>51876679
>>51876718
http://www.banggood.com/Thicken-Mens-Outdoor-Military-Polar-Fleece-Windproof-Cargo-Pants-p-962550.html
These are the pants. Just remembered I also got these shorts there:
www.banggood.com/ARSUXEO-Mens-Sports-Pants-Cycling-Clothing-Bike-Bicycle-Shorts-p-968940.html
>>51876790
Possibly :^)
>>51876790
Haha, nah. My mom is a pretty conservative autist and doesn't really do anything that interesting. We all made plenty of jokes about the name of the site.
I had just requested pants with zipper pockets so I felt safer about not losing my phone while doing outdoor stuff. I've lost plenty of flashdrives due to poor pocket design.
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>>51876810
Why did you not just buy yourself pants? Are you a good boy?
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