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The Supreme Meme Dream Machine: The WhiteFox
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FAQs:
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Switch Guide:
Switches are subjective. Try a switch tester.
Get off my lawn with your tiny keyboards
>>51837559
>tfw found out about this only today
>tfw have to join the second batch
A-at least my gateron yellows should have arrived by then for the barebones jack of all trades kit
>>51837627
be glad you'll be second batch, then you can still cancel if it turns out it's shit or he can fix problems if there's manufacturing problems
That base is fucking shit and too fucking thick.
Also exposed screws don't always looks good.
A shame because I really want a 65% keyboard.
Friendly reminder that mx blues are objectively the best switches, and the only reason not to buy them is if you are a sissy pants coward too scared to make noise and wake up mommy and daddy.
>>51837855
why wouldn't you just get a TKL
65% just looks like "I want to look like the cool kids but I still need my buttons so i'll just cram them in"
>>51837908
enjoy not being able to use it around other people
>>51837921
>around other people
>>51837913
It's just one more column on the right of enter instead of five, so the mouse still gets a lot of space (I have a 60% now)
And I don't have much use for the F1-12 keys, so I don't need to waste another row on top.
>>51837908
>Using switches that are worse than MX greens which are worse than buckling springs
>>51837908
Lmao if you are going to claim a switch is the best, don't post a photo of a fucking meme bar. Go back to reddit with that shit
>>51838073
I really don't see what the downside of a meme bar is.
I'll definitely try it to see if it's better than default when I get my new keyboard, but I doubt it'll be noticeable in any way
Is the Rosewill RK-9000v2 any good?
>>51838378
I think it's not worth the pricetag and you're probably better off with something like a WASD, Ducky or Filco
If you get a bargain on it, I don't doubt it's good though
>>51838127
It's not night and day but it's easier on your thumb so it doesn't get in your flow
>>51838378
I had an RK-9000 with blues, and it was a solid board. It was just a rebranded Filco after all. Not sure about v2 though.
>>51838647
Actually, scratch that, I don't think it was ever confirmed that it's a rebranded Filco.
I got a CODE TKL with Greens on the way. How memed am I /mkg/? It's mostly for gaymen, and it cost me fucking 300 Aussie funbux
>>51838726
>paying that much for a tkl
>greens for gaymen
Well I guess switch type is mostly up to preference but you did take it pretty far up the ass for the shipping
>>51838726
>300 AUD
You dun goofed.
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/code-keyboard?mode=guest_open
>>51838726
You could find a leopold or quickfire for much less. Also heard of them caps being trash so congrats on being jewed.
>>51838766
Welp I guess it's a good thing I won a bit at the casino last night but still
>>51838726
did you test switches?
did you do research on the keyboard?
did you do research on possible sites to buy from?
if yes to all above, you're fine, if no to any of them you fucked up, if no to the switches you're gonna be absolutely ass annihilated
>>51838806
>>51838726
see if you can still send it back
>>51838833
Fedex has got it. + I'm in Ausfailia so It could be anyware between here and there. I guess this is what it feels like to get jewed
>>51838876
It's okay, anon, you only lost like 80 AUD. At least you got the switches right. Right?
>>51838926
y-yeah green ones like I said
>>51838944
but you did test all the switches & thought those were the best, right?
I can get a cm Nova touch for 109€ shipped, should I try it?
I have 14 days to return it if I hate it, but I really want to know if topre is just a meme
Protip: I absolutely despise membrane keyboard, I'm too used to my mx blues now
>>51838963
ages ago on a tester. I honestly couldn't really tell the difference between blues and greens other then greens having a 'deeper' click and maybe a tad more stiff to me. But I need something much stiffer then browns like I have so I guess greens it is.
>>51838999
I think topre is the quietest of mechanical keyboards.
If you like the noise of the blues, i don't think it'll be for you, but if you like blues for the tactical bump, apparently topre also has a really good tactical bump
where are you ordering it from?
>>51837559
ordered my supreme meme dream machine with clears
>>51839000
well blues are also slightly stiffer than browns, 5-10g stiffer
whereas greens are 30g stiffer than browns
>>51839009
>Topre
>Mechanical
>>51839009
eprice.it
Solid site, I spent more than 2000€ on it
>>51839040
>100€ off
I'd definitely get it, you can always send it back or resell it
Unless, like I said, you really like the noise blues make
>>51837559
>65% meme keyboard
>>51839081
Not so much about the noise but the feedback.
People say topre just fall flat after actuation which is mostly why I hate membrane.
Do topre keys fight my finger until bottom out or not? I like how my blue discourages me to bottom out and makes me light type
>>51839022
Any keyboard which requires you to push down a button is mechanical anon.
>>51839150
>tfw no electrical keyboard
>>51839163
well technically you could use one of those forcefield thingies to use a mechanical keyboard
>>51839171
electrical*
>>51839134
Reds are the ones which discourages you from bottoming out
>>51839492
encourages*
>>51839508
Did I mistype my sentence?
Light switches like reds DIScourage you from bottoming out because you know they don't take much to actuate
>>51839528
Ahahah no
>>51839578
>muscle memory doesn't exist
git fukt m9
>>51837908
which keyboard is that?
PBT vs ABS is a bigger difference than Mechanical vs Rubberdome
PokerII
>>51839584
>>51839528
so how does muscle memory discourage you from bottoming out?
it's harder to find and remember the actuation point and it's extremely light, so it's easier to bottom out
Reds are like the easiest to bottom out switches there are
>>51839597
yes anon I'll totally believe that two varieties of plastic are a bigger difference than entirely different methods of input
>>51839585
Any tkl look like that modded enough
>>51839597
Jokes on you I have a mixed set on my kb and they are mostly the same
>>51839610
Because it actuates so easily, you will get used to the correct amount of force that's just required to actuate without bottoming out
Has anybody had any success with building a Dactyl keyboard?
I'm tempted to try it out, but it seems like a lot of work, and don't want to start unless others have had success with the models.
>>51839784
that sounds retarded
>>51839856
Maybe you should consider that you're retarded if you cannot grasp such a simple concept
>>51839864
if something requires less of something else, that doesn't make it easier to remember exactly how much it needs, especially on something like pressure
if anything, it makes it way harder
It's harder to bottom out if the spring fights you instead of loosening up like a whore sissy boipucci
Are you a troll?
>>51839784
You're overestimating muscle memory, and misunderstanding how muscle memory works. Your fingers are not going to remember the distance it takes to bottom out a key and then all of a sudden start pushing them less so that you don't bottom out.
It's tactile switches that discourage bottoming out, because your brain associates the tactile bump (and the click as well if they're clicky) with the actuation of the key, and stops your finger when it feels/hears.
Muscle memory relies on triggers and feedback. It does not finely control how far you push down the key.
>>51839918
I really can't tell, I think there's actually people retarded enough to think that way
>>51839022
>>51839150
still better then the mush mush membranes by far
KUL ES-87 or Filco Majestouch-2 TKL ?
I'm looking to buy a mechanical keyboard finally, but I'm not happy with anything I've seen so far.
How come every keyboard with extra macro keys has to have flashing lights and cobra dicks all over them?
Fuck these overpriced, ugly "gaming" keyboards, just give me some extra buttons on an adult keyboard.
>>51840055
Das keyboard.
>>51839990
>KUL ES-87 or Filco Majestouch-2
geekhack org/index.php?topic=70856.0
this'll probably help you the most with the decision
>>51840055
like 80% of the people who want macro keys are GAMES WOO LED RAVE PARTY people
can't you just turn off the backlighting, even though you'll still pay extra for em
>>51840055
the cougar attack & it's clones don't have any of the flashy lights
>>51840069
A giant volume knob and media keys isn't what I had in mind when I said "extra buttons".
>>51840076
It's not just lights, but the whole transformer vibe they give.
>>51840108
Granted that's not a bad looking keyboard, but $250 is too painful.
I've been looking at the Logitech G710+. While it doesn't look exactly "professional", it's also not an affront to nature. The armrest is removable and I guess I could always replace the keycaps to get rid of the grey WASD.
I'm not expecting craftsmanship of the highest quality for $100, but is it at least Okay?
>>51839927
>>51839892
What part of low force required for actuation do you not understand? If you don't need a lot of force to actuate, you will naturally type at a force just sufficient to actuate without bottoming out
Is there a key profile so that the finger can travel from one key to the other without dents?
Like they are all flat with just air between them.
Or something close to it.
>>51840391
I'll just assume you're a troll
>there are people who spend more than 10 euro on a keyboard
>>51840454
and I'll just assume you're retarded and don't even own a linear board
>>51840422
they're literally called flat
>>I really want a ducky mini.
>>Blue switches are completely unavailable.
Fuck me
>>51840466
Nice.
I never saw them on the usual sites, where are they hiding?
>>51840466
Those are called G20
>>51840466
ah nevermind, I start to think they look like crap.
Is there mechanical keyboards that are USB 3.0? Would 3.0 benefit a mkb over a 2.0 mkb?
>>51840551
apparently they're a lot less common than I expected at first and you have to kind of custom order them
>>51840586
if oyu have money to spare, http://pimpmykeyboard.com/flat-keys/
>2$ per key
holy mother of jew!
>>51840345
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NY45NCY Cougar clone. They are a "budget" maker but they use real Cherry switches unlike others.
>>51840613
try contacting the sellers to see if you can get a deal on a large order of them
So, new question?
are spherical keys (like those vintage replicas set like DSA) easier to casually slide your fingers across than cylindrical?
>>51840630
I'd assume they're harder, because they try to center the fnger in two dimension sin stead of one
Just got my Poker 3 today, love this little thing!
>>51840645
thanks.
>>51840613
>>51840625
Not just that, they're ABS too
Keys gonna get real shiny in a couple months
>rubber dome is 75g
>people claim green are hard
????
if literal housewives can type on rubber dome, how can't you type on greens?
>>51840659
they sell PBT too, for the same 2$
Still I'm not writing them, even at 1$ each it's at least 90 bucks for a TKL
>>51840613
Look for G20 keysets on pimpmykeyboard, those flat keys are not what the picture is.
>>51840659
>>51840680
http://pimpmykeyboard.com/g20-stealth-keycap-set/
>>51840673
>rubber dome is 75g
I'd like to see your source on this claim.
Aside from which, different rubber domes have different weights, dummy. There isn't any universal rubber dome weightings which all keyboard manufacturers adhere to.
>>51840718
I imagine they must make them fairly heavy so they don't feel like they've warn out too quickly.
>>51840617
>http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NY45NCY
I actually really like this. It even has a removable braided cable which I wouldn't expect from a "budget" maker.
Too bad about the bright backlight that can't be adjusted, but for $90 I may learn to live with it.
>>51840702
>all that money spent
and yet, I bet you still lust for a topre
>>51840772
http://www.amazon.com/CM-Storm-QuickFire-XT-Mechanical/dp/B00DKXXABK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1450019910&sr=1-2&keywords=quickfire+xt
suddenly you have a better keyboard for a tiny bit less
>>51840776
>For the tiny ⇧ Shift, if you are a emacs user, you can also solve it because you don't need to type ⇧ Shift ever. You set emacs to type them by key sequences. I do this, to avoid any key-chords.
> To type CAPITAL LETTERS, you just type normally and press a button that will capitalize the previous character or previous word or current line. See: Emacs: toggle-letter-case.
> To type shifted symbols, you can either turn on Operating System's sticky key feature, or, setup emacs to type them by a key sequence. For how, see: Banish Shift Key.
ahahahah did Richard fucking Stallman wirte this?
Do these people realize one doesn't spend 24hours a day on emacs?
What if god forbid you want to use a browser or write a .doc?
ayy lmao
>>51840939
And we've come full circle.
Macro keys and lights or no Macros or lights.
Besides, the brown version of that keyboard is $100, so a tiny bit more.
>>51841071
>Macro keys and lights or no Macros or lights.
that's because macro keys are stupid and stupid people buy them
stupid people go hand in hand wit flashy razer blackwidows and transformers bluray.
my poker 2 can record macros for up to 14 keystrokes, I could literally program it to type "op is a faggot" with pn+A
>>51841071
Oh I didn't notice you were the same guy, you linked the blue switch full sized version so I gave you the blue switch full sized version, I even double checked to see if it was the correct switches
https://youtu.be/mGTLRhA3K4U?t=40
seems like you can at the very least change the backlighting to just wasd
>>51841142
>>51840772
https://youtu.be/iM0CRWnzRew?t=100
jesus christ it took me 5 reviews to find a nigger that shows the illumination options
>>51840479
Clears brew.
https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=111
>>51841199
Looks like I misunderstood. An amazon review said you couldn't adjust the brightness and I took that to mean you couldn't toggle it either.
>>51841224
maybe he didn't know, a lot of the reviewers are retarded
So my cat knocked something of my shelf and it landed on my Pok3r, and it broke the Fn key.
How hard is it to desolder and install a new switch?
>>51840069
junk and shitty tech support.
>>51840055
IBM model M
>>51837559
I'd actually buy this if I needed a small keyboard. 60% keyboards are completely useless in practice since hiding the arrow keys behind a fn layer makes the keyboard too cumbersome for everything except vim autists or people who type at 60 WPM.
Tilde location is a retarded but I'd rather that over not having it at all.
>>51841253
>arrows are related to typing speed
Back the fuck off..?!
>>51841253
The FN key is right where my pinkie is when pressing the arrow keys anyway so it's not a massive deal.
I mean I have a huge desk but...
>A E S T H E T I C
>>51841199
>go to youtube to look at reviews
>half videos are high pitched kids rambling
>Indian that takes 25mins to talk and covers nothing of importance
>other videos are just an image with death metal soundtracks
>>51841329
>not even ninja printed
I never understood how you guys memorise all the symbols
>>51841353
try doing IEM reviews
literally 90% of them are indians, I've never seen as many indians in my life as when I was looking around on what IEMs to buy
>>51841396
>Ninja printed
Is there seriously not a better name for it? Ninja printed sounds like it was made up by a 15 year old xXxMLG420PLAYAxXx.
>>51841396
I'm 18 now and been heavily into computer for the last 10 years so it comes along with spending extended amounts of time typing especially since i started so young.
>>51840974
I have never used right shift in my life
>>51841493
>not accidentally hitting it instead of enter
>>51841436
sideprinted?
>>51841440
maybe the symbols are more regular for US boards? There's a lot I don't even
>>51841493
I have when i'm one handing and I have to use IOPKLM
>>51841511
>sideprinted
Yeah that's acceptable I guess.
>>51841511
>maybe the symbols are more regular for US boards? There's a lot I don't even
I'm a Britfag with UK layout, either way they are very similar
>>51841511
>sideprinted?
That's what it's actually called.
seriously why are topre so goddamn conflicting
I fear I will get an expensive rubber dome and boy do I hate those.
Some say topre are "tactile", some say they can't feel it for shit.
Coming from mx blues, am I spoiled?
I don't care for the click sound, but will my finger FEEL something between top and bottom of the travel?
or is it "linear" except with increasing force?
fuck fuck fuck
>>51841565
Just get the cooler master switch tester with the novatouch switch and try it.
I got it, and within three minutes I knew that my next keyboard would be a topre.
>>51841565
get the CMStorm tester if you can't find a topre board to try locally
The new version changed out the clears for a topre switch
don't just do just a random buy, unless you can return it easily no questions asked
>>51841560
I never use . + * or / off my numpad, so I have no clue where those are, I also practically never use #§^èç{à}¨ù´`£ so I don't know where those are out of my head either
guess I just have a fucked keyboard
>>51841594
I'm the guy about to pull the trigger on the 109€ novatouch itself.
I have 14 days to return it so I will probably just get it, but I will be out of 109€ for at least 20 days and probably be really pissed/disappointed around christmas.
And then if I like it, I need to manage to sell my current keyboard.
>>51840776
you saw my earlier post
>>51841561
That or front-printed.
>>51841632
>60% with a ten-keypad
Why?
>>51841623
I don't think you'll want to return it.
I've considered getting the novatouch, but I'll probably go with the realforce since the keycaps on that are already so perfect that I won't ever have a reason to replace them.
>>51841647
I'm not him, but I guess he likes his keypad on the left for some autistic reason.
>>51841623
I pulled the gun on a blue switch keyboard without testing out switches, if I don't like em, I'll return it & get the switch tester. Might pick up a realforce after that
I doubt you won't have returned it before then if you like it tho
>>51841647
because he likes to be able to use his left hand? or he likes being able to put it away when he doesn't need it?
seems superior
>>51841667
idk maybe he's left handed possibly maybe?
>>51841663
I think topre switches are extremely two sided
I don't think there's people that think they're "okay"
I've only seen people say they're far superior to cherries and people saying they're absolute shit and just expensive rubber domes. No middleground
So you kind of have to get lucky if you do an impulsebuy without testing them
>>51841684
Like I said, autistic.
I had the occasion to test some Realforce keyboards and they were really nice. I like the slightly heavier ones. Also it would be nice to bring the silenced one to my lab.
However, I can pay like 4 rents with the price of one keyboard.
Does it worth it? Will I get hit by the buyer's remorse if I pull the trigger on this one?
>>51842020
>However, I can pay like 4 rents with the price of one keyboard.
>
>Does it worth it?
is it worth it?*
money value is subjective, and 4 rents makes it clearly "Not worth it" no matter what obese neets will tell you.
>>51842020
>However, I can pay like 4 rents with the price of one keyboard.
aren't they like 200'ish?
how the fuck are you only paying 50 a month for renth
everywhere here it's like 800 a month
>>51841760
autism isn't something to joke about.
but no, i don't have it. not left handed either. it just allows me to have my keyboard centered instead of having the numpad awkwardly in between the board and the mouse.
>>51842260
>office curtains at home
still I'm jelly of those DELLs
>>51842050
Yeah, I don't game so I should resist this momentary desire and just use my current rubberdome as a typing tool.
Thank you for correcting my shitty English instead of just making fun of me.
>>51842057
I'm im a shitty university dorm and I live like soviet communist with my bed and desk for only private place.
![square_louped_hd_598_01_sq_sennheiser[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/0qkt93n.png "square louped hd 598 01 sq sennheiser[1]")
>>51842260
are those memephones?
>falling for the ruse
metal keycaps when
>>51842393
whenever you can afford them.
they are for sale.
Daily Reminder that mechanical keyboards are overrated as fuck and all switches lighter than MX clears are for pussies with muscle atrophy.
>muh light touch
>it's like a cloud of boobs mmmmmm so goood
>muh not bottoming out oh yesssss
You're all getting fucking ripped off.
Show me a single mecha keyboard that doesn't have ridiculously bad manufacturing quality, extremely shitty letter printing that fades after 1 hour and doesn't cost more than its weight in gold. Protip: you can't.
>>51842393
you mean metal coated, plain metal or metal with a plastic coat?
The first one is pretty stupid & the last 2 have huge downsides
>>51842415
just about all of them?
model M?
>>51842415
>and doesn't cost more than its weight in gold.
I'm sorry you're poor, but how does it affect me?
>>51842448
Just cause I can afford doesn't mean I'm letting some taiwanese jews who slap 30$ worth of german quality switches on a 1$ plastic board with LEDs that fail after a month (ask anyone who owned the #1 meme keyboard corsair k70) rip me off.
>>51842504
>he doesn't build his own keyboard
fucking casual
>>51842415
B-but /g/ said they were good! D:
>>51842428
>>51842448
Why do people still reply to this shit every single time?
Genuine question, how new are you that you can't tell OBVIOUS trolls?
now I'm reading people saying Novatouch sounds CLACK instead of THOCK like genuine topres
goddamnit
>>51842565
>Genuine question
I reply because it's sunday and I'm doing extra (paid) hours at work being a sysadmin that means I'm bored out of my mind and a shitty troll is pure gold entertainment compared to watching logs
>>51837559
So which layout are you guys going for?
>>51842565
It's just a laugh m8.
>>51842415
>I got my storm QFR on amazons warehouse deals for $45
>>51842565
often obvious trolls are fun
>>51842632
noice
>>51842589
>now I'm reading people saying Novatouch sounds CLACK instead of THOCK like genuine topres
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXDgg3yUFaM
there's a pretty big difference yeah
>>51842589
>>51842598
>>51842653
>We're just pretending to be retarded xd
This is why everyone thinks /g/ is /a///v/-tier
K70 Masterrace,
full-size >>>>>> stupid non-full size
>>51842653
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXDgg3yUFaM
>there's a pretty big difference yeah
fuck that sounds like 10$ vs 200$
>>51842722
Stupid gaymer trends
>>51842403
>>51842403
okay, now we are talking, I see them now.
however I would never pay as much money as the most dumb frogposters ITT for stuff made out of plastic.
it's plastic worth a few dollars and you fucks spend hundreds on that shit.
>>51842707
/v/ is /b/ with video games
/g/ is /b/ with technology
>>51842734
the first keyboard doesn't sound like it has the original keycaps thouhg
>>51842734
>>51842589
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbYDZWlCBSc
apparently you can mod the novatouch (check 2:55) with dampeners to sound more like a realforce
>>51839609
>Red pill Blue pill
Noice controls nigger
>>51842763
>K70
>Gaymur
Choose one m8
>>51842852
>>>Red pill Blue pill
the joke is that they do the same thing ;)
>>51842890
Wow, dude your keyboard has some deep meaning behind it.
>>51842589
>now I'm reading people saying Novatouch sounds CLACK instead of THOCK like genuine topres
Yes and no. The downstroke is basically the same thing, but there is a sharper plastic upstroke clack on the NT compared to the RF. Of course you can silence the NT (as I did) to make it sound even better than a stock RF.
>>51842915
>NT (as I did)
oooh you have a NT?
Did you have mx before? are they tactile?
I have mx blues now
>>51842950
No, the NT is my first mech. I tried a number of demo boards several times, but the NT outclassed the rest. Yes, Topre is tactile.
>>51842876
>any corsair peripheral
>not marketed at gaymers
Choose one.
>>51842876
yeah, you'd have to be retarded to think it's marketed at gamers
>>51842260
asking for the third time. WHAT IS THAT WALLPAPER
>>51843556
im pretty sure its stucco
>>51843556
learn to cyber stalk your fellow /g/ anons better. from that op's /r/battlestation post
>>51843647
thank you my god
>>51843624
thank you my god
>>51842383
hey friend, they're comfortable and they play sound.
i just noticed my tab key is fucked up... damn it massdrop/vortex.
>>51844053
which cap set? So I can avoid them lol
>>51844174
You should just avoid massdrop in general to be honest
>>51839040
Is there one in english?
>>51844053
Massdrop doesn't check that shit. Contact them and they should help you out.
>>51844235
well it's an .it site and it seems to almost exclusively have italian layouts
use google's translate funciton
>>51844279
Since you are italian I'll ask which espresso machine would one do good with?
Under 300 buckaroons.
>>51844329
>since you are italian
nigga I aint italian, I'm belgian
and before you ask, I don't know which waffle iron you should buy
>>51844329
>>51844373
I am dying over here.
>>51844329
It's here
Buy a moka for 20 bucks and use Illy coffee.
Or go nespresso, it's okay
>>51844481
Got one of these but the fucker arrived broken. Chinese junk.
I may look into just moka if they don't repair it.
>>51844517
>gaggia
what an awful name
>>51844552
Name or is it an actually awful brand?
I will agree the name is not appealing.
RGB keyboards anyone? I'm deciding between the K70, K95, and the Ducky Shine 5.
>>51844517
If its not a capsule machine you're just asking for troubles.
Neither grains nor powder machines can seem to last long, unless they are like 500$
>>51844562
It's a legit brand.
In Rome a gaggio is one who falls for obvious scams, basically a fool you can sell a brick to.
So ironic
>>51844577
fug
Better to wait for some big deal like a coffee shop going out of business because of starbucks and snatching up their little commercial machine.
>>51844572
see >>51842504
Not sure if it's all bait or if there's some truth in his post but do some searches on forums or whatever
ducky shine is regarded extremely highly, so it'll prob be the best option
>>51844600
I'm american so that's whats expected.
Chinese espresso machine never again.
>>51844577
I was going to call you out on bullshit & argue I've had two cheap coffee machines that lasted like 6y ea
but then I realized espresso machines & coffee machines are completely different
>>51844174
Vortex PBT doubleshot
>get poker 2 last year
>still havent touched the pn layer
>>51844610
Gonna go for the Ducky Shine 5, then; praying to the 4chan lords it isn't a meme.
>>51837559
Damn I was almost temped to get this one but I need 80%. Currently I have a Code TKL with Clears but the build quality is actually really lackluster and the simple aluminium housing of the WhiteFox seems awesome.
Just got a quickfire xti for €100. How did i do \g\?
>>51844225
This
They sell everything that doesn't pass QC to massdrop.
I feel regret already
Hello /tech support/. Pleb here.
I've been using a scissor switch with flat keys for the last five or so years, picture related. Was satisfied with it, however laptop is now ded.
Need a decent enough keyboard for a desktop, have no need for blinking leds, usb docks, or other meme tech.
>>51844877
Ducky Zero
Or a topre realforce
>>51844734
do you need the backlighting? if not you did ok, if so, you did good
>>51844828
whatfor, looks nice
>>51844877
what's budget?
What size do you want?
Where are you located?
Have you tried out different switches? If not, do you have a place nearby where you can go test switches?
>>51844916
This
What set is this
Goddamnit
>>51845111
if you can't find the difference between it & different sets, what does it matter
it just look like a standard keycap set
>>51845142
It clearly doesn't.
Look at the font
and the grey/white of granite but keys are cylindrical instead of spherical
>>51845173
it looks like a standard non throwing up font
the color looks standard
cylindrical is also standard
it's also very standard, if there was even a single aspect that stood out I'd understand you seeking it out
I can have a Razer Orbweaver with mx blues for 65€.
I'm planning to swap the arrow keys with mx red and the others switches with mx browns to do a FPS/RPG keyboard.
And change the ugly green LED to white.
Is that a good idea or I'm falling for the meme ?
Pic related
So I'm feeling either a CODE or WASD v2. Am I right in thinking the only difference is that you can customise the keys on the WASD but the CODE has backlighting?
>>51844938
>budget
flexible, willing to spend some more if I find a good reason to do so
>size
used to a smallish laptop keyboard, which had a numpad.
can live without the numpad, but I don't mind a fullsize board
>location
scandi
>switches
have little experience with swhiches, mech keyboards in general.
tried some keyboards at a nearby store, cound not find any info on switches tho. Most of them felt rather flimsy and plasticy, suspect is was cheap thash sold at a high price
>>51844916
>>51845024
Thanks for the advises
>>51845267
I think it'll cost you quite a bit, also might be hard basec on how it's made
>>51845267
Is that thing PCB mounted? What a shit.
You can swap out the springs and the stems without desoldering it from the PCB, though you'll have to get to the underside of it if you want to swap out the LEDs.
How is it for gaymen? I've been looking to some more ergonomic solution for gaymen that isn't a keyboard. I just need a hand cluster which has the basic stuff that you use in FPS.
>>51845288
>>51845267
Actually I find this and it seems pretty easy:
http://imgur.com/a/gobqD
>>51845281
>have little experience with swhiches, mech keyboards in general.
>tried some keyboards at a nearby store, cound not find any info on switches tho. Most of them felt rather flimsy and plasticy, suspect is was cheap thash sold at a high price
then first of I'd really recommend you to pick up a switch tester
http://www.cmstore.eu/parts-replacements/peripherals/mechanical-key-switch-tester-v2-free-shipping/
this has red+black (linear) blue + green (clicky) brown (tactile) and topre (some weird high end "rubber dome" & mechanical hybrid some people swear buy
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00I0VX4VS
this has red + black (linear) blue (clicky) and brown (tactile), depending on shipping costs this might be cheaper, don't know
It might seem like a lot, but it'll feel better knowing you'll have the optimal switch. You might even be able to weasel out a discount if You decide to buy a quickfire board after buying their switch tester by posting on the forums. I've seen people be succesful with that, because there was a deal like that on US and they asked about bringing it to EU too.
Quickfires & Ducky Zero are the two main go to cherry mx budget boards.
>>51845346
still looks harder than a board. good luck if you try it anon, hope it works out
>>51845173
The font looks like a rounded Helvetica. The caps themselves also seems more rounded.
>>51840598
no.
no.
>>51845323
not the same anon, I have one and It's really good, but the problem is fucking synapse, you need to at least install it once. Setup everything, all the profiles and you can make a "tournament drive" that it's basically a driver with those settings for offline use.
By far the worst Razer has been doing the last four years was to remove internal memory from all their devices in favor of Synapse and Synapse will forever be shit.
>>51845987
>>51845987
Similar question. Are there any real difference between ps2 and usb keyboards?
I don't mean backwards compatibility or "professional gaymer" nonsense, but as in would you notice any difference using either in usual typing tasks, casual gaming, etc.
>>51842770
and electrical boards.
and electrical wiring.
and mechanical switches.
possibly leds
Why dont you make your own board for a few bucks and see how shitty it is.
>>51840598
0mg d00d u mu5t h4v3 l33t h4xx0r |-yping 5k1ll5!!!!1!!!!1 0v3r 9000 wpm!!!
>>51840598
Corsair keyboards have a USB 2 and a USB 3 cable, if I recall correctly the USB 3 is so that the software driver can make the LEDs do their thing, assuming they aren't dead already.
>>51844718
Ducky shine 4 and 5 are legit.
Just good luck finding a 5,they sold out everywhere instantly when they released last month
>>51845267
I just buy it.
Where can I find singles mx switch ?
>>51846228
It's not an urgent purchase, so I'm just going to pre-order it off of mechanicalkeyboards.com and hope for the best. :^)
>>51846159
Laymens term. No.
technicality. Yes.
It really dosent matter in the end unless you want autistic level/meme reasons to go ps/2
>>51846245
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/wiki/switch_suppliers
>>51846304
Thks Anon
>>51844663
anyone notice the spacebar is the wrong way round.
>>51846393
meme
>>51846393
uhh no? that's the correct way to have your spacebar
>>51837921
My friends have told me that they like listening to me type on my MX Blues, it's a really satisfying clicking noise
>>51846393
why would anyone do this
>>51846438
the lettering is even upside down you fucking goober
>>51846466
it's so the people sitting opposite to you can read what keyboard you're using you fucking retard
>>51840730
I think the average actuation force for rubber dome is like 30g-50g with some outliers..
>>51846486
I wonder what would happen if you changed a brown user's switches to clears or a red's to blacks overnight without telling him
>all retro cap buys are done and over with
>if you happen to find some way to get it 99% chance there are no ISO keys making it fucking worthless for you
>>51846485
who would be sitting opposite you, your fucking monitor would be there, oh jesus christ this has to be bait and besides why would they care about your fucking keyboard.
>>51846532
when you're in the library at a table you sit opposite to people?
not everyone uses desktops you know
>>51846546
>muh laptop
>posts in mkg
>>51846546
>taking your keyboard to a library
>>51846598
>using a substandard laptop keyboard
fuck that shit
>>51846582
bet I have more mechanical keyboards than you bro
>>51846613
why would you buy so many keyboards you fucking autist.
I just ordered a ducky shine 3 tkl with MX blacks.
I may have made a terrible mistake.
The CODE says that its Cherry MX Clears are 'ultra-rare'.
Is that for a reason? Surely if they were baller they'd be all over the place, are they like the hipster key switches or something? Or are they actually a hidden gem.
>>51846791
yes
>>51846791
the green, black & clear variants are all rarer than their lighter versions
blue and red are more widely used than browns
therefor clear is the rarest of the big 6
if you want whites or greys you're REALLY fucked though
>>51846840
>>if you want whites or greys you're REALLY fucked though
Not if you can solder.
>>51846856
even then, you're still going to be fucked no?
yeah I just checked, unless you live in US you can't even get them without shipping them over from the US, and even then you're paying almost double of more regular switches
>>51846840
So if I mostly program will the CODE be as great for that as they claim?
I'm torn between that and the WASD v2, because as far as I can tell you can't customise the CODE
>>51846924
There are plenty of people on DT or GH that would be willing to work out a non-painful deal to get switches shipped to you from the US.
As for the prices, I dunno where you checked, but I didn't spend more than 40 bucks for a bag of 60 mx clears.
Granted this was well over a year ago, so maybe they have climbed.
>>51846987
Also where's the best place to buy them for the UK?
>>51846987
I don't believe you have any idea what you are talking about.
First, switch type is entirely preferential, and nothing is "for" a particular purpose (like programming). It's all about what you like best. Second, the only customisation of the WASD is of the keycaps, which you don't want as they're fucking ass. If you want the WASD, buy the barebones variant and an aftermarket keycap set that's actually decent.
>>51846440
because reddit told them to and being good goys they did so
>>51846987
wasd keyboards aren't like "best keyboards for programmers +50% efficiency in c++", they're just really good keyboards
but there's a lot of really good keyboards
Filco and Ducky are also really good keyboards
DasKeyboards used to be top notch, but people have been complaining about a drop in quality recently.
>>51847038
so yeah, just kind of look around & do some research. See what you need the most. The main special thing about the WASD keyboards is that switch thing in the bottom.
http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-filco-majestouch-2-nkr-tactile-action-keyboard.asp
this shit is in UK, so it might be pretty good for you
KUL ES-87 and CM Novatouch are both around 150€ where I live.
Fuck I can't choose !
>>51847208
you fucked up on the most important part of choosing a keyboard
if you do not know if you should get topre or a cherry mx keyboard, you should get a tester and find out which switch you like the most
don't just buy a keyboard because they're mentioned a lot
>>51847271
how do you know that anon didn't already test?
>>51847283
because he's doubting between a topre keyboard and a cherry keyboard
>>51847084
(no i don't have any idea)
>>51847147
i have a slowly-falling-apart Steelseries Merc Stealth at the moment from years ago when i was young and reckless and still played vidya on the reg, so i'm looking for something more upmarket.
that one does look quite nice though. i'm leaning more towards http://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/blank-105-key-filco-majestouch-nkr-tactile-action-keyboard.asp personally, dat minimalism. plus if i get bored and stick it into dvorak or something later.
>>51847295
maybe one is the first choice but that anon also likes the feel of the second.
>2015 not liking more than one switch type
>>51847311
>upmarket
Ducky zero
>>51847313
then how are we supposed to know which switch type he likes more?
like if you like one switch type more, it should take precedence over everything else about the keyboards
>>51847311
>Out of stock Out of stock.
rip
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Filco-Majestouch-2-Tactile-Action-Keyboard/dp/B006TTL2PI/
is sort of similar, but with side printing
also if you don't know what switch to get, don't just randomly pick one, get a tester. see >>51845410
>>51847367
what does upmarket even mean
>>51847392
Ok google
define:upmarket
DING DONG
Appealing to or designed for high-income consumers; upscale: "He turned up in well-cut clothes . . . and upmarket felt hats”
>>51847423
That wouldn't be a Ducky zero, then.
>>51847423
so why would you recommend a budget board to "a high income consumer"
like why not recommend literally any of their other boards
>Ducky Zero series is an enthusiast grade keyboard at entry level pricing. Zero is a back to basics keyboard that provides a great typing experience
>enthusiast grade
>entry level
>basics
>>51847497
>>51847485
Get the One then with flashy LED's.
The One is just a rice version of the zero.
Upmarket dosent mean it has to be 500$.
Quality bro
>>51847392
Yeah I saw that Ninja. I suppose the keys aren't the biggest concern right now, but I'd like to end up with blank black ones, I guess in this PBT material too rather than ABS.
Although as far as I can tell on that keyboard company website, the Ninja is 6 quid more than the regular but "comes with 2 sets of Windows keys 1 set top printed, 1 set front printed". Does that just mean the keys with the Windows logo on, or a full set of keys? The price makes me think the former but I can't see why that'd be the case.
Definitely going to grab one of those key samplers when I can though.
>>51847534
well isn't literally every single one of ducky's board higher quality?
>Ducky Shine 5 is the first model that comes with ABS double shot backlit keycaps.
>Ducky One has ABS double shot too
is this one of those sick "Shine, Shine 2, Shine 3, Shine 4, Shine 5, One" things
>>51847576
by 2 sets of windows keys, they just prob mean 2x2. Because standard layout has two windows keys, so a set of windows keys would have two.
There's a few keyboards that come with PBT keycaps on the board already
see https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_list&c=30&sortby=price:asc
>>51837921
>Guy next to me at work uses a Cherry keyboard.
>Guy on other side of cubicle uses a Razer Blackwidow
>Guy who sits behind me can't imagine spending more than $100 on a keyboard
They all love my Ducky Shine 4 Cherry MX Blue
>>51847625
>trying to find boards released farther then this year.
>Trying to find boards that are in stock
Plz try harder
This is my second Quickfire Rapid-I. LEDs are fucked within a few weeks, and it's upsetting because otherwise it really is a great keyboard.
>>51839609
I can see the Cherry stems through your keycaps
>>51847672
jesus fucking christ, I'd send it in and just get a rapid instead
>>51847681
Happens with thick PBT.
>>51847667
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ducky-Channel-Mechanical-Keyboard-Lighting/dp/B018LVLICS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1450045904&sr=8-1&keywords=ducky+5
I think last time I checked they all still had around 10 in stock, now all but brown is sold out, there's still some floating around EU stores most likely though
>>51841436
front printed
lmao
>>51838378
Jason?
Mime
What do you think?
Don't want to spend over £100
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Perixx-PX-5200-Mechanical-Backlit-Keyboard/dp/B00OTU74VU/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_10?ie=UTF8&dpID=41gK0Q%2BnPrL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=1HNXAV70M0RYAWX0S80R
>>51846439
Skyping with a qt3.14 and she said not to use push to talk so she could hear my keyboard
>>51847672
wtf are u doing to the leds
I've had a rapid-i for like a year and no problem
What plastic does Ducky caps use?
>>51837559
>do not want to pay exaggerated expensive for switches,so I will bare bone it,but there no option to buy keycaps or usb cable
>>51849096
ABS
Ordered a Royal Klunge RC930-87 55g RGB along with some KBC PBT doubleshot backlit keys from Taobao - agent has just uploaded pics before shipment.
All my boards are Topre but wanted backlit for my gaymen PC, seems like a good midway point
1/2
>>51849405
2/2
>Royal Klunge
Jesus Christ what were they thinking. Apparently the good feeling of oneness with cup rubber is around 80-85% there with this model so I'd be happy with that.
>>51849419
>Royal Klu[d]ge
I dunno, it's a pretty funny name.
>>51849571
Oops. I keep thinking it's Klunge.
It's funny as fuck but I'm just hoping the board isn't as bad as it's name.
There's JewTube videos floating around of it, apparently it's got a pretty good rap from people who were game enough to give it a whirl.
If this board isn't that great my next option is a CM QuickFire TK with Zealios.
>>51848616
Perixx seems to be decent budget board. I don't know much about them. There is this for a little bit more
http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00BTWZDNC
>>51845111
This from a WYSE PCE board ('90s PBT doubleshot), made by Signature Plastics' predecessor firm. SP still uses this font today for DSA sets. The modern modifiers come from a Moogle/Tsangan set from 2013 group buys. I've been contemplating getting an old WYSE ASCII or ANSI for the keycaps but I'm unsure about the condition they'd be in.
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Wyse_PCE
>>51837559
I actually want that Massdrop keyboard. It looks sweet. But I just don't know about spending that much on it, given that I've got 4 mechs and of the 4, I love my BS the most. I'm interested in that weird MX clear style switch they are offering. The custom switch.
Oh well, if that drop is a success I'm sure there will be more once the company has completed it.
>>51850869
It'll probably be another goddamn long time till they do another drop, since it takes them forever to process one drop and they gotta keep that sekrit klub exclusivity going.
>>51850869
>I'm interested in that weird MX clear style switch they are offering. The custom switch.
The Zealios?
http://zealpc.net/collections/switches/products/zealio
>>51850869
It's not a company, it's one guy.
Looking for:
Tenkeyless
Cherry MX Reds
Under $90
Is CM quickfire my best bet?
>>51851541
Yes.
>>51851541
Yes. Or ebay for a used cheeto covered filco
>>51846228
currently using a shine 5 with blacks
it's a pretty good board. lighting shit takes a little fiddling if you want to do anything custom but it's all well documented in the manual.
good luck waiting tho
$75-80 is my budget /mkg/
the pastebin guide is horribly outdated
looking for something with cherry mx blues
maybe backlighting as an extra gimmicky feature
love and kisses
>>51852965
Full sized or tkl? What region of the world do you reside in?
$100 budget
cherry mx blues or reds
tkl
hoping for something with easy linux compatability?
>>51853178
cm storm quickfire rapid.
should have good linux compatibility https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5S9LIT-hdc
>>51853178
>Linux compatability?
Every board is compatable.Its basic usbhid drivers.
Most ricer lights have fn keys to do all of their programming
>>51853047
Either is fine
US
>>51837908
Blues are objectively the worst switch because 2 piece stem
>>51837908
>saying his opinion is objectively the best
>doesn't give any arguments to his "objective" argument.
>>51837908
>blues
>over greens
No thanks.
>>51837908
I think green switches are the best.
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