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Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners

If you are serious about switching to Linux, use it exclusively for 2 weeks, avoid windows dual booting for that period of time, or you are likely to start retreating back to windows instead of getting used to linux as your new home and working on making it feel comfortable

You can safely experience installation process and the basic usage through a virtual machine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R33sFFhgkWk [Embed]

>Recommended for Beginners:
Mint, Xubuntu, openSUSE

>Learn to RTFM - Read The Friendly Manual
man <insert command here>

>Resources:
google
/r/linux4noobs
/r/linuxquestions
/r/unixporn
http://explainshell.com/
http://www.serverfaqs.com
https://www.codecademy.com/learn/learn-the-command-line
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLtK75qxsQaMLZSo7KL-PmiRarU7hrpnwK
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What is Linux (or GNU/Linux for Stallmanists)?
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux

Babby's First Linux (What distro to choose?)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

What software does /g/ recommend? (Please DON'T include the so called infographic -- refer all your recommended software here, and no, Vivaldi is not recommended in the wiki, because it is objectively shit. this OP is dumb for recommending it.)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/List_of_recommended_GNU/Linux_software

Ricing on Linux (Make it good and functional or make it worse like those at desktop threads)
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/GNU/Linux_ricing

There is also scripts for new users from Windows that are heading straight to Debian.
https://github.com/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript
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You were suppose to use this pic OP
>one job
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>>51264219
If it's in the first few posts, it still counts

Plus that's messy as fuck
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Debian + Xfce vs Xubuntu, who wins? Why?
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On Linux the browser forward/backward buttons act on +click. I want them to act like in Windows on -click (release).
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>>51264542
you'll need to be more specific than "the browser"
my file browser, spacefm, moves on press
while my web browser, seamonkey, moves on release
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>>51264215
Not really enough info to say why that failed, could be a number of reasons.
If there is a full build log somewhere then you could post that, might be helpful.

Also, people won't go easy on you because you're new to arch. Pretty much everything you could ask is documented and you're expected to be able to find the answer, through wiki, man pages, google etc.
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>>51264426
>shovel vs hammer, who wins?
It depends on what you're planning to do with it
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I have Arch installed on another computer. Should I stay on that or fuck around and try to actually install gentoo?
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>>51264219
Why would you even talk about zsh to a novice user?
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>>51264897
Use what you want to use and which you think is best and suits you most.
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>>51264219
Fixed it.
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>>51264932
Whoops, supposed to replace cairo-dock with plank.
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>>51264932
get rid of dolphin, it's pulls in most of kde as dependencies. Replace with spacefm.
Remove "cult based" bullshit from mpv.
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>>51264956
Wouldn't thunar/pcmanfm be a better replacement?
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>>51264920
Honestly it I have no preference at this point. I've been using Arch on my main conputer for a little under a week, and it's been alright, thanks to the wiki being more help than googling problems ever has.

I only ask because I want to follow through with install gentoo meme. Besides, it would help me learn linux better and actuall learn how to compile shit myself, with the added benefit of getting a little more performance out of my hardware as a side goal. Plus, Gentoo's package manager is supposed to be awesome, from what I've heard.
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Does anyone use an alternate kernel, like Zen or ck?
Do you think it's worthwhile over pure stock?
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>>51264985
ck is placebo.
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>>51264969
thunar maybe but not pcmanfm, spacefm is much better.
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>>51264811
General usage, i.e. internet, development, films, torrenting etc

Is either one bloated? (guessing Xubuntu would be)
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>>51264201
Does nvidia's superior linux performance extends to WINE as well?
I will 100% commit to linux if I'm able to get better performance in LoL with nvidia gpu.
Currently I'm running a 270X and it runs at 30% frames it does in Windows which makes it laggy.
Will I get better performance with nvidia?
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>>51264981
Gentoo/funtoo is objectively better than arch so if you're interested in it then go for it, it's not much more difficult and everything is documented. Yes, the package manager is probably the best there is.

By the way, you probably won't learn how to compile anything by using gentoo. Using portage to compile something is no more involved than using pacman to install something, it's all done for you.
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win10 is annoying
installing arch right now, what desktop environment should I install? not sure if that matters, but I obviously want to customize stuff and I want it to be/look "minimalstic" (compared to win)
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>>51265002
it's hard to say
while opengl performance is best on nvidia proprietary, free drivers have access to native direct3d9 support, which can be used with wine to avoid opengl>direct3d9 translation overhead
in such cases, the free radeon driver can pull ahead
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>>51265039
Go for arch and i3. Arch is customizable af and for minimalism i3 is configurable as fuck so you can make it look as you need it to
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>>51264561
firefox specifically
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>>51264985
I use zen right now for the liquorix patch. I kind of like it but I am testing something particularly and so far as far as general performance goes it's not much different from vanilla linux.

BFS can make things seem a bit snappier but the default scheduler is pretty good these days and I personally agree that it is more or less placebo now. ck's patches have had a rocky time over the last 6 months or so with many problems, some very serious. It seems he's not very active right now either, his patches haven't been updated by him for a while now. The maintainer of pf kernel is version bumping the BFS patch for his kernel, but again, stability risk kind of outweighs the pros of it.
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Dafuq is this...
Install worked only in nomodeset

Arch Linux
CPU: Intel Pentium D 820
GPU: Nvidia Geforce 210
Motherboard:MS 7255
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>>51265028
>Gentoo/funtoo is objectively better than arch
Good, because I had someone shitposting in the previous thread saying that there was "universal consensus" that Arch was better than Gentoo.

>By the way, you probably won't learn how to compile anything by using gentoo. Using portage to compile something is no more involved than using pacman to install something, it's all done for you.

Disappointing, but that's life. Oh well.

>>51265002
I don't know. I honestly think I took a performance hit moving to Linux, but I'm playing on a veritable toaster since I'm too much of a cheap bastard to upgrade my computer. I definately have the money to do it, I just can't justify doing it because I alone among my group of friends couldn't actually give a shit how my games look.
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>>51264956
>>51264932
>>51264219
Revision 2
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>>51265082
P.S
After rebooting into system after installing this shit appeared..
Windows works, but I prefer Linux over Windows in programming
Anybody who helps, will get karma points ;)
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>>51265097
>saying that there was "universal consensus" that Arch was better than Gentoo.
No, complete nonsense written by some arch fanboy who never used gentoo.

>>51265097
Not sure why you would really need to know this. I mean, it's not hard, it's just convoluted to do manually. If you have the dependencies installed then it's just a case of "make && sudo make install". It can vary with different build tools but that's all there is to it. The pain is getting all the right dependencies and the correct versions. You can look through gentoo ebuilds and see what goes on if you like, you can make your own too, I suppose that requires you to understand the build process.
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>>51265082
why did u run nomodset when arch doesn't have a flashy high-res logo
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>>51265099
Looks pretty good.
Maybe add ardour for music editors.
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Hey guys I have a strange problem on Chromium.
I needed to make a loader for page so when it finishes loading it removes loader animation and shows the page and thats ok except the google map which is on the page doesnt get loaded. The frame is there , but map itself is blank.
Now hear this , when I zoom in/out page the map instantly appears?!!
What a hell do I do to make this load properly?
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Is Debian Stretch stable and secure enough to use as a server distro?

>>51265099
Someone tidy this fucker up so we can actually use it in /flt/ threads and not look like shitters
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>>51265174
Testing it's the least secure branch of Debian.
So no, don't use it for server, use stable.
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HI /g/. I have installed the arch, xfce with compton, but the fonts in firefox is so disguting.

How do I improve it? What is the best font renderer?It is to let the browser displaying fonts such as OS X?
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>>51265199
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Font_configuration/fontconfig_examples
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>>51265199
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=162098
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>>51265142
My gaymes will still run on Gentoo, correct? Hate to get all the way through the install and have none of my shit working.
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>>51265174
If only the previous OP is smart he would change it, but he's too dumb.
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>>51265223
What games?
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>>51264219
>>51264932
>>51265099
autisms intensify
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>>51265113
>karma
>>>/r/linuxquestions
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>>51265199
Either make your own fontconfig or install infinality bundle if you just want a quick fix.
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>>51265242
Oh, hello, previous OP. Have you removed Vivaldi botnet from your list of "recommended browsers" yet?
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>>51265253
>quicker than pasting a fontconfig
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>>51265242
>do the leg work
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>>51265211
>>51265218
>>51265253

Thanks, folks. I will try.
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>>51265236
Native Linux games (CSGO, TF2, Civ 5, Minecraft) and playonlinux shit that only half works as it is.
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>>51265170
No idea
loglevel=7 showed that triggering uvents hangs on usb hub and shit

So, using integrated graphics fixed that weird text shit
Why geforce 210 doesn't want to work with it?
And btw my PC doesn't work with my GTX
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Just want to thank the guy who started this thread series, good work dude, I was there from the first thread and wasn't sure if it would last but you were persistent enough and this was a popular enough subject that it did.
Have a nice picture of a watch from the watch thread.
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>>51265301
If they have ebuilds then they should work. Wine works pretty good but I don't use games so don't know, if they work in arch then they'll work in gentoo. Maybe make sure you use the staging USE flag for wine.

http://gpo.zugaina.org/Search?search=minecraft

You might need to use some 3rd party overlays but that's easy enough.
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>>51265353
Thank you. It was really hard but I did it.
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>>51265268
>quicker than letting pacman replace a few packages
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>>51265523
Yeah it is
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>>51265536
Sure thing buddy
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>>51265570
Ok, glad we got that sorted.
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>>51265211
>>51265218
>>51265253

Much better. It was not 100%. I will gradually trying to set up the rest.

Once again, thank you! :D
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>>51265621
Use some better fonts, the croscore ones render very well.
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>update Arch
>it breaks
Updated to Linux 4.3 plus my NVIDIA 304xx drivers and suddenly after rebooting Xorg complains that the kernel module failed to loaded (even though the package is supposed to work with 4.3). Reverted to linux-lts for now.

Anyone made the same experience and was able to fix that? If so, how?
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.>>51265785
How's the bleeding edge treating you?
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>>51265785
Figure out what the problem is then. Make sure there is a module and check to see if there are any steps you need to do.
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I need help with a command:
In the terminal,
cat > nameOfTextFile.txt
makes nameOfTextFile.txt and allows input into that file, without going into vim. After making the desired edits, how do you leave this editing mode? I tried Googling an answer but I don't have a succinct way of wording this.
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>>51265785
Had the same thing. Installer couldn't compile dkms mod because no kernel source of current kernel in the repo. Reverted to first kernel that did. (Headers)
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>>51265861
never mind, I found it. It's Ctrl + D.
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>>51265861
Oh nice, didn't you know you could do that.
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>>51265358
>If you're a NEET with literally nothing else to do you might be able to rush a Gentoo installation in at least 24 hours; if you're a busy person with a day job and friends, it might take you over an entire week to set everything up. On a 2014-semi-modern quad core CPU with 8 GB of RAM, setting up the minimum system (the stage-3 tarball + Portage snapshot) will take you about an hour, compiling the kernel an hour and a half (assuming you're cheating with genkernel instead of undertaking a manual compilation and fixing an endless series of kernel panics), finishing your basic installation another hour, installing the graphical interface at least 2 hours (because the GUI is an optional component in Gentoo), and installing Google Chrome or Firefox at least 4 hours each while the entire software compiles from source code. And that's assuming you're the luckiest person in the world and don't run into a single problem, pitfall or having to mess with a poorly documented system component -- if this happens, add at least another 4 hours. Oh, and if you're planning on using a LUKS volume, add another 24 hours while your system fills a 750 GB disk with pseudorandom data using four concurrent jobs to exploit your four CPU cores.

Is this an exaggeration?
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>>51265919
>Is this an exaggeration?
Yes, it's nonsense. I have a core2duo and most of the times listed there are quicker for me. There's no need to compile firefox, there is a binary for it (it does take long to compile yourself because it's one of the most complex pieces of software on any computer). Compiling Chrome? Yeah good luck finding the source for that.
Took me about a day to install funtoo. Who cares any way? You can use a live environment like ubuntu until it's finished anyway so you can read, listen to music, watch videos etc, it's not that much of a big deal and needs to only be done once in your whole life.
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>>51265785
>Updated to Linux 4.3
What? Arch is still on 4.2.5.
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>>51264956
>our cult doesn't appreciate the way you describe our affinity for mpv
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>>51265785
>he used testing repo
Your fault.
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>>51264201
I did the try it for two weeks thing, and haven't used a Windows os (or osx) for more than two years. Honestly people who bitch about drivers must not understand something...? I've never had a driver issue, and I am a semi gaymer. it's faster, lighter, more customizable. Literally wins in every category EXCEPT gayming and a few enterprise specific applications. Do it.fuck windows.
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>>51265785
>4.3
I'm pretty sure you're using the testing repo then. Get what you expect: Arch Blooding Bleeding Edgy Edge
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>>51266122
Tbf I've probably been on Linux longer than most people here (2005) and it's not like the driver situation was always rosy.
I've seen some shit.

Things are way better now than they were, thankfully. Especially with nvidia and wifi drivers.
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>>51265825
Well on the one hand it's nice to have the latest version of a program/the kernel almost immediately available (especially for media players that's a plus) but on the other hand shit breaks, especially Xorg stuff. I hate that piece of shit. But at least for now I'm gonna jump off the testing repos since shit broke too often for now.

>>51265849
http://pastebin.com/fbJMHxrV

But for right now I'm just staying away from the testing repo and gonna downgrade. Not worth the hassle.

>>51265866
But there are headers for 4.3-1?
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/testing/x86_64/linux-headers/

>>51266030
Testing repo m8

>>51266103
>>51266141
Yep and for that reason I'm gonna jump off that train for now.
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POPCORN TIME IS BACK!

http://popcorn-time.se/
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>>51266186
>http://pastebin.com/fbJMHxrV
I don't know why you're posting that here, I didn't ask for it. If you use arch testing repos then you should be able to troubleshoot this yourself and at least see where the problem is (and then report it, seeing as that is the whole point of testing).
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>>51266228
>.se
No.
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>>51266228
lol no it isn't idiot
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>>51266229
Well I had to be on testing for a while since I suffered from a kernel regression and therefore wanted to be able to use a fixed kernel without waiting to hit core. I never really bothered changing it back. But otherwise this is the FRIENDLY Linux Thread, so you don't need to be a dick?
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>>51266279
Friendly is not an excuse to be dumb enough to use testing if you have no idea what you're doing.
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>>51266279
Where exactly was I being a dick?
You seem to be mistaking 'friendly' for 'spoon-feeding'.
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>>51265919
yes

There are some things with insane compile times. I thought installing gnome3 would take forever, and it did, but mostly because it pulled in python2.7 and python 3.4. I would have installed those as binaries if I had known how long and how much of a % of the total time they would take.

Running into problems and inconsistencies are the real time drag, because you can waste time setting something up only to end up with some broken tools. If you only break non-essential stuff compiling is just a background task. The biggest problems I've had with gentoo are getting dumb shit like theming and UI consistencies to work as they should, becuase those are things I don't really know anything about.

It's important to know your hardware. Genkernel is good and should make sure you can boot, but if you want to compile a kernel yourself or have some wacky hardware like certain wifi things or a newer special gpu, you might have problems with those.

gentoo will definitely will eat up a lot of your time, but as a hobbyist endeavor it''s really cool. I wouldn't say you don't learn anything about compiling, either, because while the package system is basically a bunch of scripts that compile things for you, seeing it work helps you understand what its' doing better, and having a better understanding of linux and compiling helps you make it work better. It definitely helps a novice without any experience or understanding of how open source shit actually turns into things running break into doing it for themselves.

Even if you let emerge handle all compilation for you, you can still learn about compiling the kernel. Genkernel will do it for you and give you a .config file for it that is known to work, so you can use that as a starting point.
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>>51266298
>if you have no idea what you're doing.
I reverted m8. I'm not completely dumb, I just asked if anyone on here had the same problem and knew how to fix that since I don't necessarily expect this to be a bug.

>>51266301
I was just asking if anyone had the same problem and was able to help me. Right now I googled up the problem and a few people reported the bug (not in the Arch repo but on the NVIDIA forums e.g.), so what do you expect me to do here?
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>>51265919
>>51266306
oh and the stuff about browsers is bullshit. Firefox probably takes forever to compile, but there's an ebuild package for an already compiled firefox binary. There's also chromium, google-chrome, and others like opera12, opera-beta (chropera, v33), a seamonkey binary, and vivaldi. Gnome3 comes with epiphany ("web") which apparently doesn't take long to compile.

and even without those you could always just extract a binary package inside of your home folder. Open sourced shit should have a compressed tar file like .tar.gz available, and proprietary shit usually just zips up its bin for you to use in addition to distro-specific packages
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How would y'all recommend making a backup?
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>>51266394
dd
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How do I set up my new Debian server so that I can access it from outside my LAN, and I can't change my router settings because my ISP is a triple jew faggot?
Is there any way I can do it just using Debian?
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>>51266247
>>51266268
Yes it is, GO FUCK YOURSELF MPAA SHILL
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>>51266379
>Right now I googled up the problem and a few people reported the bug (not in the Arch repo but on the NVIDIA forums e.g.)
So you could have found the answer yourself with some research.
>so what do you expect me to do here?
Not ask inane questions when you can easily find the answer yourself.
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>>51266409
>I can't change my router settings
>Is there any way I can do it just using Debian?
No
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>>51266387
That latter stuff isn't really true, it assumes you have the dependencies and the correct version/package names installed, which is more of a pain in the ass than it might first appear to be.
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>>51266432
>inane questions
You're a fucking idiot. I specifically ask in a Linux thread dedicated to Linux newcomers and you accuse me of being lazy while the rest of the thread consists of even easier or almost obsolete questions? I mean what is even the purpose of this thread in this case if 95% of the questions on here could be answered with a Google search? I mean if no one bothered so far to have a solution/cause for my question it can't be this obsolete.

To cheer you up, I found the answer: It's a kernel/driver problem since the two symbols got removed in 4.3, so I have to patch the kernel it seems, hope NVIDIA patched the drivers or for now just revert...
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>>51266634
>you accuse me of being lazy
Yes I did because
>I found the answer
There you go. As I said before, if you play with Arch Testing then you should be able to at least search google for an answer or bug report before asking random anons on an image board.
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>>51266421
Have fun with that botnet bro. Do you know much about the history of that domain?
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>>51266674
>if you play with Arch Testing then you should be able to at least search google for an answer or bug report before asking random anons on an image board.
So asking if other people had the same problem is a problem for you? There was ONE thread on Google pointing out it's due to the kernel (with a different distro; which fixed the issue with an kernel update on their side appereantly) and if I ask for the experience of other users you say I'm not entitled to post here? What's even your problem?
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Wow, an actually readable mirror list
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>>51266896
>What's even your problem?
You could solve the problem on your own, and you did.
You didn't even know how to begin troubleshooting the problem, when told how to start you post a log rather than doing what was suggested.
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>>51266898
Epic, thanks for sharing.
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>>51266933
>You could solve the problem on your own, and you did.
>You didn't even know how to begin troubleshooting the problem
???
>when told how to start you post a log rather than doing what was suggested.
Because asking for help is now considered a bad thing? As I said, what's even the purpose of this thread then? I mean the nvidia packages is listed to work with Linux 4.3, which apparently after some digging isn't, so?
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>>51266896
>use arch testing
>gets problem
>first reaction is asking on 4chan
You kind of set yourself up for this man.
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>>51266981
It was suggested that you check a few things and your reply was to post an irrelevant log.
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>>51266953
No problem dude
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>>51266186
>Testing repo
>get shocked when something breaks
>on testing
freaking mememaster.
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>>51266228
popcorn-time.se is malware, popcorntime.io was the only trustful fork.
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>>51266992
Why not? People do this here all the time.

>>51267015
You told me to check for the module and see if there are any steps to do. If you would've read the log you would've noticed that there was a module and the googleing the listed problems lead me to googling the mentioned errors, resulting in one thread which basically tells me to patch the kernel or just update their distro (which I'm not using, duh).

>>51267066
Alright, I'm leaving this thread. Fuck your cancerous community that only gets salty if I'm asking if anyone HAD THE SAME EXPERIENCE AND FOUND A FIX. It's not like I was stuck here and waited for copy-paste solutions, just if anyone figured out the problem better than I did. Next time I'm asking on IRC channels and Arch forums because appereantly testing is that much of a secret club, even though the problem here is MAINLINE kernel which is not even in beta/RC state you fucks.
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>>51266421
You're so naive that it's actually kinda cute.
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>>51267112
k bye
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>>51267082
http://popcorn-time.se/source.html

heres the source, where is the malware exactly?
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>>51267112
>googling the mentioned errors, resulting in one thread which basically tells me to patch the kernel or just update their distro
Ok so you solved it yourself, as you should have done in the first place. If you're not capable of doing this then don't use distros/repos which require you to have some self initiative and knowledge.
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>>51267112
There's a reason why it hasn't leave testing even through it was release more than a week ago you faggot.
Now get out, you fucking faggot.
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>>51267132
lol you're embarrassing yourself.
Did you diff the source with the original (trustworthy) source? Guessed not.
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>>51267132
You really don't know the story about that domain don't you?
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>>51267177
You are the one claiming something. Burden of proof is on you.
Did you diff it against the original? Guessed not.
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>>51267199
No, you're claiming it is safe and not untrustworthy, which is the general opinion and would be yours too if you knew the history of that domain. The burden of proof lies in your hands.
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>>51267199
You're the one claiming stuff here.
Everyone else is telling you do your research, that fork is been known since ages and everyone here could tell you the reason but nobody is going to spoonfeed you.
Now you're free to A. do your research and listen, or B. ignore advice and be a faggot.

Again nobody is going to spoonfeed you here.
Nice try though
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>>51267256
>You're the one claiming stuff here.
nope.

This is what you claim:
>popcorn-time.se is malware, popcorntime.io was the only trustful fork.

So provide proof that its malware.
If you feel to argue still, then provide proof that original version was not malware.

You got yourself trapped in your own claims there.

I have not claimed anything, I pointed to the source and asked you to prove your claims.
>>
Does anyone here use powertop or tlp? Is there any reason to use both or is just one enough?

And how does powertop work with systemd?

>>51267291
This. The faggot should really prove it is malware or just stfu.
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>>51267319
>This. The faggot should really prove it is malware or just stfu.
>implying you're not the samefag
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>>51267291
Nice try, ill give a hint since you're trying so hard compare the version of the so called source code and the version of the binaries.
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>>51267340
Sure dipshit, by some massive coincidence everyone who disagrees with your retarded crap is a samefag. Well discovered, faggot, yes of course I am a samefag. Only one person on here thinks you're a massive fucktard.
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>>51267319
>>51267291
S A M E F A G
A
M
E
F
A
G
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>>51267375
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>>51267380
Nice inspect element you got there, samefag.
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>>51267369
First, calm that butthurt, you're obviously samefagging, secondly that anon you're replying to isn't the one who told you the truth.

Now please stop shilling your crap without knowing the facts, seriously, refrain from posting.
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>>51267319
>>51267291
>>51267369
>>51267380
samefag
(nice shop by the way)
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wtf you guys:

posted to the old thread
>>51267352
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>>51267380
in those few seconds?
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>>51267405
>wtf you guys
wtf what?
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>>51267177
>>51267192
>>51267238
>>51267256
>>51267340
>>51267347
GO FUCK YOURSELF MPAA
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>>51267291
https://torrentfreak.com/popcorn-time-warns-users-against-malware-and-scams-150707/
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>>51267414
no don't btfo him too quickly, I wanted to mess with him a while longer
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>>51267427
ok samefag, whatever you say
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>>51267375
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>>51267414
Nice script to auto-hide the samefagging, samefag.
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>>51267380
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>>51267427
>Gets the so called prof he always wanted here: >>51267347
>Gets desperate
>Start samefagging as hard as possible
>Finally decides to insult and avoid all reason

Nice one shill.
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>>51267444
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>>51267427
That slide design is disgusting.
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>>51267438
>In addition, the Popcorn Time team explains that they are not affiliated with the Porn Time app or the Popcorn-Time.se fork. While these clients are by no means harmful, the myriad of alternatives often causes confusion.
>these clients are by no means harmful
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>>51267442
>>51267444
>>51267449
lol busted
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>>51267424

there are at least 3 friendly linux threads atm.
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>>51267462
Stop changing your font render and shopping, samefag.
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>>51267438
>In addition, the Popcorn Time team explains that they are not affiliated with the Porn Time app or the Popcorn-Time.se fork. While these clients are by no means harmful, the myriad of alternatives often causes confusion.
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>>51267291
I hate to link from plebbit, but here.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PopCornTime/comments/2lyxnm/time4popcorn_popcorntimese_now_includes_adware_do/
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>>51267485
I'm gonna btfo you again, funniest thing now would be for that guy to show his own screenfetch and rek your fucking ugly ass sideways (again)

I have a feeling you might not even believe me until I pastebin my package list, which I will do if i have to, i am literally that idle right now
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FUCK YOU MPAA

POPCORN TIME IS NOT DOWN.
The original site is JUST being blocked, AND the alternative is not affiliated BUT IS NOT MALWARE!
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>>51267508
I wouldn't worry, I'm sure he feels quite at home there.
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>>51267517
See: >>51267347
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>>51267515
So? That doesn't prove anything. You're still samefagging.
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>>51264995
Xubuntu is a bit, it's no trouble removing excess bloat though
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>>51267517
lul wut m8
>blocked
top kek
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>>51267540
It will prove it when that other guy does his own screenfetch and shows we're not the same person you complete dumbfuck

Or are you that paranoid that you think people would waste time shooping their screenfetch just to prove a niglet like you wrong on a taiwanese chickpea eating board
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>>51267566
>people would waste time shooping their screenfetch
Exactly what you're trying to do right now.
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>>51267566
First, Screenfetch allows you to change your distro, logo, etc by issuing a few options, secondly yes, you fucking say it yourself here >>51267515
>i am literally that idle right now
>>
I'm looking for a very small and lean arm live-cd. The smallest I'm seeing right now is the gentoo stage 3 image at 200 mb.
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>>51267607
Puppy Linux
Damn Small Linux

Also why? why do you care about space?
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>>51267607
stage3 isn't a live cd
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>>51267590
When you change that distro option the number of packages changes to 0, you fucklet, try it now, go ahead i'll be here

nice attempt to wriggle out of this now
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>>51267607
Tiny core linux not this deprecated >>51267636 shit
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>>51267638
Which you will shop the same way you did before.
nice try nsa shill
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>>51267638
>im grasping at straws here
>>
Has anyone ever used the CentOS installer without letting it build the hard disk layout for you?

I have the a system with the current disk layout:
software-raid-6(
/boot
LUKS(
LVM(
/
/home
/some/other/mountpoints
)
)
)



I'd like to install CentOS instead of what I run now (i.e. I'd like to install CentOS in the root partition inside the LVM without formatting the entire raid array). I'm afraid the installer will dick over my data or will otherwise not cooperate. If it matters, it's the partition type is GPT. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks
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I'm trying to install Mint on a separate SSD, but Grub won't recognize the Windows 7 drive I already have. I've already reinstalled Mint once, OS-prober gives nothing, and I've even tried swapping which drive goes into which SATA-port on the motherboard.

The only thing I have left to try is reinstalling Windows 7 using UEFI instead of BIOS, because apparently that can make Grub unable to find it. Does anybody know if this will actually fix the problem, or if there's something else I need to do?

I don't know why having the OS' on separate drives would be such a problem, surely it's not an uncommon thing to do.
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>>51267754
dual booting is shit and always has been shit

ditch windows, we all went through that withdrawal phase, it's better for you if you do it early instead of waiting about 8 years like i did (though linux was in a shit state 8 years ago so i had an excuse)
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>>51267638
Nice try shill
>>
Does anyone here use powertop or tlp? Is there any reason to use both or is just one enough?

And how does powertop work with systemd?
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>>51267319
>>51268004
Get out faggot, nobody is going to help a shill like you.
Get rekt LMAO
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>>51268004
samefag
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>>51267754
have you tried mounting your windows drive before running osprober?
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>>51268020
If they do, will you please kill yourself? I don't think /g/ can handle that autism in one day.
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>>51268053
Only after you.
>I don't think /g/ can handle that autism in one day.
Fucking newfags i swear
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>>51266186
No funny stuff when installing nvidia-current via term?
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>>51268029
get a life loser
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>>51268020
You're taking this incredibly seriously.
>people shouldn't ask for help if you suspect them of samefagging

I guess you're missing being able to report people on reddit who disagree with you, right? Feel free to go back there and leave this place for good.
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>>51267637
Anything that puts me in a terminal is fine.
>>51267636
Because I don't want to download 200 mb just to run a single program in a terminal.

It turned out that just using
qemu-arm helloworld

did it.
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>>51268403
>Anything that puts me in a terminal is fine.
Good luck doing that with a stage3.
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171G 09.11.2015 22:35 startxfce4.log.1


what the fuck?!
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>>51268679
tail it and find out
>>
Why is xorg such a pain to configure if you want more than basic functionality?

I'm running the radeon driver because I have an old laptop with an old laptop IGP. I can't get DRI3 to work, even though it should be hardware independent. I can't get it to vsync, or if it IS vsyncing, it's causing shit performance. Compositing isn't that intense. What the actual fuck, guys?
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>>51268699
had to delete because system was unusable. maybe it will blow up again
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>>51268716
Are you sure your driver supports all that?
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>>51268745
radeon is the only driver that supports this hardware. radeon in general supports DRI3.

I have three API's for dri/compositing available, XAA, EXA, and Glamor. There don't seem to be any differences.

Furthermore, there's no clear way to set VSync. Thorough googling has turned up that some options are only in certain situations, like full-screen 3d apps (like games, not like compiz).

There are only two real indications to me that I'm not getting full performance out of the hardware: Fades between backgrounds in mdm are jerky as shit. And, When I open an application like chrome, There's a transparent "distortion" before the window just appears fullsize.

I'm being nitpicky, I know. doesn't mean I'm wrong...
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>>51268905
>I'm being nitpicky, I know. doesn't mean I'm wrong...
No one said you are wrong but
>in general
isn't what I asked.
Check what your specific driver supports.
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>>51264201
Thunar looks like shit with my current WM, any other decent file manager?
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>>51268988
I listed in that post what my driver supports. I know for a fact it can do DRI3, XAA, EXA, glamor, etc. I've googled the shit out of how to enable DRI3 but the two methods of listing the option in xorg.conf don't work

So I suppose my question is, is DRI3 supported on any hardware supported by a given driver?
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>>51269040
Set a GTK theme then moron.
Or use spacefm but that too will look shit if you haven't got a semi decent GTK theme set.
>>
So I'm gonna install debian on my desktop computer. I want to use a tiling WM, awesome seems nice but the configuration seems daunting. What other WMs are nice and easy to configure? I use two monitors.
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>>51269055
>I listed in that post what my driver supports.
No, you said "in general".
>is DRI3 supported on any hardware supported by a given driver?
As I said, check what your driver supports. The xorg website has lists of what each driver and card supports.
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>>51268004
https://fedoramagazine.org/saving-laptop-power-with-powertop/
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>>51269091
i3 is easy and so is bspwm.
Awesome isn't that hard.
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>>51268309
>After hours he still doesn't realize everyone is trolling him for having a stupid opinion
top kek
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>>51269116
>Awesome isn't that hard.
But the configuration is in LUA right? It'd mean I'd either have to learn LUA (no time for that right now) or resort to cut-and-paste when configuring without understanding much of what I'm doing.

What's the main difference between i3 and bspwm?
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>>51269169
>opinion
What opinion? I only agreed with the guy who said you need to prove popcorntime has a backdoor. Burden of proof, little bitch. Anyway make another thread if you want to continue this, don't shit up /flt/ with your cunt sperging.
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>>51269208
>mfw he's still triggered after all this time
Holy shit you're gold.
>>
>>51269178
You don't have to learn lua, I don't know any code at all but you can see the basic syntax easily enough. Most of what you need to do is either paste-able and adjustable or easy enough to do on your own.
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All right guys I've installed awesome

what do i do now

I want it to look good
not shitty like it does now
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>>51269208
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>>51269240
You're the one who just restarted the shit here >>51269169
and I'm the one who's triggered?? Sure, little guy. You're like the faggot who is ready for a fight right up to the moment before the fists start flying.
>>
>>51269269
You replied to me, i just answered, you're the one who's obviously still mad, i mean im not even insulting, just laughing.
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>>51269254
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Awesome
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>>51269254
follow the wiki
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>>51269276
this is you >>51269169 funny how you're doing the samefagging now

I know exactly why you got triggered, someone answered my question about powertop and that triggered you because you monitoring this thread to make sure I didn't get an answer. You stupid worthless cuntrag.
>>
How about you both shut up instead of going on with this dumb
>no u
>no u
>no u
shitflinging
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>>51269314
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>>51269343
I agree, which is why I asked him to make a thread for this so I can really rip him a new one. It's not fair on the rest of the people who want to read this thread, I wish he had stopped after >>51268064
instead of restarting it >>51269169 here purely because he got mad someone answered my powertop question

watch as he accuses you of being me now
>>
>>51269387
post your screenfetch to prove it's you
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>>51269424
Still waiting for you to prove you're not a samefag yourself
>>
>>51269424
This, screenfetch it faggot >>51269387
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>>51269433
Stop samefagging, niglet. >>51269424
I will prove it right after you prove you're not samefagging.
>>
>>51269424
>>51269432
>>51269433
lol screenfetch
You guys are hilarious.
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>>51269451
Look at the timestamps newfag, you can only post every 60 seconds.
>>
>>51269278
>>51269305

The wiki is pretty barebones. The transparency settings they have there don't even work and there isn't much else there in the way of actually making it look good.
>>
>>51269463
And there is a 61 second gap between your 2 posts, dumbfuck
Stop samefagging
>>
>>51269481
awesome's wiki, not arch's.
What do you want to change anyway?
>>
I spent a week trying out different distros on vm (fedora, ubuntu, mint, arch, etc), and I can't decide which one to install for daily use.

I liked arch, but I'm worried it's going to break (it already happened twice). Should I give up?
Fedora was alright, but I read somewhere installing non-free software can be a pain. Any way to get around that?

Can anyone suggest me another distro?
>inb4 gentoo
I don't have the time to install it.
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>>51269491
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>>51269518
>getting rekt so starts with the spongebob posts
And this is how victory tastes, people.
>>
>I spent a week
>fedora, ubuntu, mint, arch
You literally could have installed gentoo 10 times already.
They all the same underneath it, they provide you binaries, have the same init, have the same kernel more or less, just with a different package manager. What's the big deal? Choose one with the package manager you liked.
>>
>>51266301
There are people here who might not mind helping.You really don't need to try and speak for the rest of us.Withold whatever you want,but vocalizing this kind of shit is simply being a dick.
>>
Two FLT, well I'll post this here too.

So I very recently installed rtorrent + rutorrent and they're working pretty well, but there's a problem.

I'm running them on a home server, and am using NFS to remotely mount the directory where I have all the downlaods, watch and seeding directory for rtorrent so I can just drop torrent files from my desktop straight onto my server and let them run indefinitely on there.

So I've been testing it with a few torrent files and when I add a torrent file to the watch directory, it opens, downloads everything is fine, I then delete the file and data through torrent and try to add the same torrent file again, though that's a no go. rtorrent will not open the same file again, this is different from when I use rtorrent locally, I can delete and re-add files as many times as I want and it just works. Now here's the weird part, if instead of copying those files striaght from my desktop to the /srv/nfs/share/torrents/watch directory but instead just copy them to /srv/nfs/share, then over ssh use cp to move the torrent file to the watch directory, it opens in rtorrent normally, I can delete it and re-add with cp and it loads again. So rtorrent is just not liking when I drop files into it a second time from my desktop, anyone might know why, I changed the permissions on the dir to 777 recursively. I also just mounted the server over ssh in my file manager and copy and paster works like normal there too, it really is just an issue over the NFS.
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>>51269588
I'll repeat: where exactly was I being a dick? I advised how to go about finding the problem.
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>>51269588
There's a general consensus here in /g/ to not spoonfeed, if you want to learn it is your job to do your homework, the other anon did help him giving him everything it's needed.
>>
>>51269511
debian is my favorite.
>>
>>51269511
Try openSUSE Leap 42.1 and get one more distro to consider.
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>>51269511
>Fedora was alright, but I read somewhere installing non-free software can be a pain. Any way to get around that?
Try the third party repos, RPM Fusion.

>Can anyone suggest me another distro?
Fedora is fine, go with it, give it a go
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>>51269617
I personally wouldn't use the term "dick". However,you were being an insensitive clod.
>>51269640
>spoonfeed
I thought the purpose of these threads was to help noobs and promote Linux.You guys drove someone away when all you had to do was remain silent.Does the "tough love" game give you a chub?
>>
>>51269754
One thing is being friendly and another is spoonfeeding.
>>
>>51269754
>However,you were being an insensitive clod.
Yet again, feel free to point out where.
>>
>>51269754
>insensitive
Is this reddit now?
Fuck me.
>>
Does anyone know how can I make my monitors run at 120Hz after logging in? Whenever I restart my PC the settings return to 60Hz and I either have to use xrandr or nvidia-settings to get it back up to 120Hz.
I tried setting an xconf.org file, using a bash script to execute xrandr after logging in, putting the xrandr commands in the lightdm conf file. Nothing works.
Any help?
>>
Hey guys completely new user to linux attempting to find the right distro.

For an old laptop any suggestions? Is it the same or are the OP recommendations for modern desktops?
>>
>>51269810
*xorg.conf
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>>51269816
Try Ubuntu Mate.
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>>51269816
xubuntu will be fine for you.
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>>51267720
I've never let the CentOS installer partition my drives. I've done it manually in text mode and graphical mode installer.

It's pretty straightforward, you just set mount points, tell it which drives to ignore, and if you want to change the partition layout, add or remove partitions. If you don't change the partition table and only set mount points then it doesn't touch any data except for the drives you tell it to format

LUKS and LVM might make it more complicated but CentOS supports both of those so it shouldn't be a problem.

if you're really concerned just test it out in a VM with a blank VM drive that has the same disk layout
>>
>>51269830
B-But I thought /g/ shits on that.
I wanna make it as comfy and minimalist as possible.
>>
>>51269830
Stop suggesting Ubuntu desu.
>>
>>51269859
>comfy and minimalist as possible.
gentoo
>>
This is the nastiest Friendly Linux Thread for a while. Stop being assholes. Don't spoonfeed but then also don't stop others from spoonfeeding if they want to. And don't be pricks.

>>51269816
Usual advice for older laptops is Xubuntu or Lubuntu. Or Debian with LXDE. There isn't a huge difference between *ubuntu and Debian these days.
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>>51269551
>victory
>implying we aren't all losers for being in this thread
>>
>>51269878
>>51269832
I'll look into Xubuntu thanks guys.
>>
>>51269859
Those are the whole lot of Desktop Threads.
Try it, you should be fine.

>>51269862
What then?
>>
>>51269859
You do realize you can do that regarless of the distribution right?
>>
>>51269895
Debian, openSUSE, Mint, *buntus (Kubuntu is so sweet desu).
>>
>>51269882
wisest thing you said so far, samefagger

>>51269892
If you go with Xubuntu, look up compton early on, it really should be in the standard install but it isn't for some stupid reason
>>
>>51269799
>Fuck me.
Do it yourself.
>>
>>51269930
>Do it yourself.
Oh yeah, because we're all equal now I should be able to fuck myself shouldn't I.
>upboat
>>
>>51269914
Then why did you said i could not recommend Ubuntu Mate then?
I mean you do realize that 'Ubuntu Mate' it's another flavor of Ubuntu just like Xubuntu right?

inb4 you through i meant "Ubuntu, m8"
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>>51264201
Somewhat new to using Linux as a daily desktop and I have a question about mounting partitions. I'm dualbooting Windows and Antergos. My media(music, videos, pictures, books, etc.) is stored on my Windows partition in the typical locations("My Music," "My Videos," etc.). I've created a symlink to my Windows user folder within my /home directory for sake of easier navigation(especially through terminal). This seems to work just how I expected, except that, upon each boot, the symlink doesn't work until I click on the drive in my file manager and enter my root password. How do I mount the drive upon boot?

Also, I've heard people say it can be "dangerous" to mount your Windows partition in Linux. Is there any basis to that other the potential to accidentally rename system files or name files using characters outside of those accepted by Windows for file names?(|, :, /, etc.)

Also, also. If there isn't a danger, is there any other advantage to moving my media to its own partition? Is mounting my whole Windows partition in any way more taxing on the system than mounting a partition that just has media on it due to file indexing or anything like that?
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>>51269955
pretty sure he thought you meant that
>inb4 i was only pretending to be retarded
>>
>>51269955
I thought you meant ubuntu mate
>>
>>51269969
Why the fuck are you using a non-mainstream distro then coming here looking for help... baka senpai
>>
>>51269969
Because my friend, the Windows partition needs to be mounted first.
You can either live with it or mount it on boot, you can edit your /etc/fstab file for this purpose or use a GUI like gnome-disk-utility to do it.

>>51269991
Yeah, next time if someone doesn't use a "," it's probably for a reason.
>>
>>51269955
I thought you meant that.
I'll look into that too.
>>
>>51269810
Just throw the xrandr command into an init script, or your .profile, or your DE's autostart.
>>
>>51270033
>>51269991
To be honest, Ubuntu Mate is very shit and buggy

You should recommend Xubuntu, it's far more stable, MATE will just put them off Linux for good
>>
>>51270033
Go for it, in my opinion Mate is far more consistent and powerful than xfce, both consume around the same system resources.
>>
>>51270056
When did you try Mate?
>>
How do I convince my roommate to not use a meme distro like Kali?
>>
>>51269969
Anon, you probably don't know this so I'll tell you.

There's reallly only a handful of Linux distributions that aren't total dogshit.

The "base" distros are all god teir (Debian, Arch, Gentoo, Slackware, Red Hat if you're rich, etc.) and will almost always work properly if you know your shit.
After that is the working-but-not-base distros (the Ubuntu family, openSUSE, Cent, Funtoo maybe) that are still kinda okay.

After that you have your "wat" teir distros that may or may not work. These may work just fine for one person but be a buggy and nonworking mess for the next. These include Fedora, Mint, Zorin, etc.

After THAT you have your shit-teir distros that may work just fine but are so fucking awful that it's rarely ever worth the effort to fix any issue you'll have with them. These distros are bottom of the barrel, hell they're not even in the barrel anymore. These include most notably Manjaro and Antergos.


You aren't worth an answer for any question you might have if you're using a shit-teir distro.


If you want to use Arch but don't want to go through the lengthy install, just use Architect, which isn't a "distro" per se and is the best way to install Arch if you don't need any special configurations.

Install Architect, then I'll answer your query.
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>>51270147
>Install Architect, then I'll answer your query.
What a fucking retard.
>>
>>51269969
>How do I mount the drive upon boot?
you can add your windows drive to /etc/fstab in order for it to auto-mount, looking something like this:
/dev/sdb2    /home/anon/cdrive    ntfs    auto    0 0

this would mount it in your home without the need of the symlink. if it's already set up in fstab to mount in the location it has been then you could just leave that and the symlink

option #2 is you can write a small script to that runs the mount command every time you start up your computer or log in or whenever it is you want it mounted. I used to have a line in my rc.local to mount a windows drive to do this

>Also, also. If there isn't a danger, is there any other advantage to moving my media to its own partition?
using ntfs drives on linux makes me anxious but I've been doing it for years and the worst thing that's happened so far is accidentally copying files whose filename had a timestamp in it with colons, which couldn't be deleted while in windows. they just had to sit there

there are advantages besides danger though. ntfs is a decent filesystem, but there are others which are more specialized and give different performance and safety. zfs is something that makes freebsd popular and which btrfs is trying to bring to linux. xfs is used on many servers. ext3 and 4 (and many others) have journaling and there's different tweaks for performance.

security is also an issue because one thing ntfs lacks is adequate permissions. linux can fudge it with a umask when mounting it but it's never going to be as good
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>>51270142
Just let him use it. At the moment, it's so shitty he'll be sorry.
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>>51270147
I've used Antergos on two systems so far and I haven't run into any problems yet. Why is it bad? My understanding was that its basically Arch with an additional Antergos repository and a pretty ballin GUI installer. When installing and reinstalling is easy, I'm less concerned about messing shit up when tinkering. The system doesn't seem too bloated upon install, and at that, there's nothing stopping me from removing the programs that I don't want. I'll take it. I rather have a little bloat and an easy install than a long install and a totally blank slate.
>After THAT you have your shit-teir distros that may work just fine but are so fucking awful that it's rarely ever worth the effort to fix any issue you'll have with them
So if it works just fine(for me), whats the problem? Really enlighten me, I'd like to know. Also, what the fuck does this have to do with my question, which any experienced Arch user could answer line for line?
>You aren't worth an answer for any question you might have if you're using a shit-teir distro.
>>51264201
>Intended for users of all levels, including absolute beginners
also, *tier

I have to ask, have you used Antergos? Do you have any experience with it or are you just being an elitist bandwagoning peice of shit?

>Install Architect,
I'll look into Architect next time I install linux
>then I'll answer your query.
Fuck you.
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>>51270553
Don't mind him, he's just another Arch elitist faggot, you've been answered twice, edit your /etc/fstab file and move on with your life.
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>>51271199
I did. Got heated there for a second.
>>51270030
>>51270197
Thanks anons.
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Installed arch about a month ago,

Lately my arch install has been slow to start applications after login. I used to be able to just open a shell right away after I logged in. Now I'm waiting 10seconds.

I'm assuming its the terrible 5400rpm HDD I got in the laptop, but does anyone have any tips to narrow down an issue here?
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>>51271505
Two options:

- Convert main partition to BTRFS.

- Use E4Rat.
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How do I set HDMI audio as default output on arch? I want to easily switch between it and internal speakers.

This is one of the times I wish I still had windows on my laptop.
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>>51271505
Look at logs to determine what is taking so long.
>>51271651
This is a bit extreme before further investigation.
>>51271748
There is a good wiki page for both alsa and pulseaudio, depending on what you use.
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>>51271748
Use pavuctl. If you don't have it, install it. It's a nice graphical configuration system for PulseAudio.
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>>51271797
It's working, but only if I disable the internal speakers. Then it uses HDMI for everything.

Is it possible to automate this? So if HDMI is connected use HDMI audio, else use internal speakers?

Thanks!
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Currently using debian testing with cinnamon.
I got a big issue with it that is annoying.
Whenever I use the left button to drag and drop a tab, a window or a file, it suddenly drop the element.
Anyone know why ?
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>>51269853
Alright thank you.
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If I could get a pair of HD 800's for ~$600 USD should I?
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>>51273942
If you want, why not
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>>51266397
Not that guy, but thanks. I've been wondering about this. I was thinking of just doing this:
cp /home/anon /media/anon/petabyte-usb-drive

Is this pants on head retarded?
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>>51269511
Debian if you're a freetard.
Mint if you're not.
I say this because Debian is an old distribution with a large community.
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Late update to >>51250952
It's semi-working now. Installing from the catalyst repo instead catalyst-test from the AUR might have been the difference. Thanks.

I had trouble signing with the repo though. Is it safe to leave SigLevel to Never if I'm not using any other unofficial repositories?

As for semi-working, I haven't noticed any screen tearing yet but now I have really bad window trailing when dragging windows over certain gui applications, specifically firefox.
Haven't tried anything 3D yet.
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>>51274761
Meant to quote >>51250973 but same post chain I guess.
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I'm trying to stream youtube vids on mpv, and it's not quite working out for me.
$ youtube-dl -U
youtube-dl is up-to-date (2015.11.02)

$ mpv http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Playing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
[ytdl_hook] ERROR: Signature extraction failed: Traceback (most recent call last):
[ytdl_hook] File "/usr/local/bin/youtube-dl/youtube_dl/extractor/youtube.py", line 817, in _decrypt_signature
[ytdl_hook] video_id, player_url, s
[ytdl_hook] File "/usr/local/bin/youtube-dl/youtube_dl/extractor/youtube.py", line 709, in _extract_signature_function
[ytdl_hook] raise ExtractorError('Cannot identify player %r' % player_url)
[ytdl_hook] ExtractorError: Cannot identify player u'https://s.ytimg.com/yts/jsbin/player-en_US-vfljDEtYP/base.js'; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; type youtube-dl -U to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.
[ytdl_hook] (caused by ExtractorError(u"Cannot identify player u'https://s.ytimg.com/yts/jsbin/player-en_US-vfljDEtYP/base.js'; please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; type youtube-dl -U to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.",)); please report this issue on https://yt-dl.org/bug . Make sure you are using the latest version; type youtube-dl -U to update. Be sure to call youtube-dl with the --verbose flag and include its complete output.
[ytdl_hook] youtube-dl failed, trying to play URL directly ...
[ffmpeg] tls: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.
Failed to recognize file format.


I've tried looking this up, but pretty much every bug report related to this problem claims it was fixed with the latest release. Well, I'm getting it now and I'm not fucking sure where to go from here.
>>
What version of postgresql is included in the Debian stable repo
Could I install the latest version into stable without breaking stuff?
Also what version of elixir/Erlang? How do I find this stuff out without actually installing Debian?
>>
Linux scrub here, thinking about trying out linux mint but I'm curious what FLT thinks is the best DE to go with, Leaning towards XFCE atm
>>
>>51277651
it's up to preference

xfce is a solid DE though, i used it for quite a while before moving to openbox+tint2
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>>51277454
https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
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What kind of data is best stored in what file system? Or does that not matter as long as it has journaling?
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>>51278176
/home: btrfs
/: ext4
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>>51278176
some filesystems are known to be better for difference kinds of file sizes
like xfs is apparently good for large files, and reiserfs for small files
ext4 is configurable at creation time to be better for certain sizes

there are other concerns besides size (and journaling), but they're mostly "in general", not by the kind of data
>>
Sup

I have a shitty tablet I picked up a while ago. It's one of those UEFI 32bit tablets. You know the ones.

The thing is, I'm trying to boot ubuntu by putting that bootia32.efi file there and such, GRUB is shown with the typical 4 options, but I want this thing to skip GRUB altogether and boot in live mode. Basically, to choose the first option which is "Try Ubuntu without installing".

I tried adding set default=0 and set timeout=10 (or any number of seconds really) to the grub.cfg but as soon as I do that, I get GRUB to be shown for a split second and then it's just a permanent black screen from there.

Am I missing something here? Even if ubuntu doesn't end up booting, shouldn't it still rely on that timeout?
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>>51264723
Thanks, I've decided to install the tar ball and build it myself.
Sorry for the late reply.
It's building right now, will see how it goes.
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>>51278176
see the archwiki about partitioning.
In general people use ext1 for /boot, ext4 for / and /home
Now there's btrfs, but it's still in development.
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>>51264723
>>51278451
Got this when building it
/usr/lib/libQt5Multimedia.so: undefined reference to `QDebug::putString(QChar const*, unsigned long)'
/usr/lib/libQt5Multimedia.so: undefined reference to `QString::toLower_helper(QString&)'
/usr/lib/libQt5Multimedia.so: undefined reference to `QString::trimmed_helper(QString&)'
/usr/lib/libQt5Multimedia.so: undefined reference to `QMetaType::registerNormalizedType(QByteArray const&, void (*)(void*), void* (*)(void*, void const*), int, QFlags<QMetaType::TypeFlag>, QMetaObject const*)'
collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status
Makefile:501: recipe for target 'YACReader' failed
make[1]: *** [YACReader] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/home/user/Downloads/yacreader-8.0/YACReader'
Makefile:43: recipe for target 'sub-YACReader-make_first' failed
make: *** [sub-YACReader-make_first] Error 2
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>>51278077
Holy shit that stuff is outdated as fuck
How do people even use stable for development
>>
Hey guys i need to make a make file that compiles all the files that start with ex and end with .c, basically ex*.c
Can anyone help?
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>>51274761
>Is it safe to leave SigLevel to Never if I'm not using any other unofficial repositories?
Should be, but you should try to solve that issue
Try
sudo pacman-key -r 653C3094
sudo pacman-key --lsign-key 653C3094

if it gives an error please post it, if the error is something about dirmngr, you need to run that first as root.
sudo dirmngr

then repeat the first, it should work now.
as for the window trailing that's odd, make sure to fiddle a little with catalyst, does it happens all the time?
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>>51278524
Because stable is for servers.
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>>51278614
Would a Ubuntu 16.04 nightly be the best option for development then?
>>
>>51278524
Because first backports exist
and secondly people don't use stable on the desktop, try unstable.
Ⲧbh try another distro altogether if you want to use it in your desktop.
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>>51278635
>nightly
Debian testing would be your best bet.
>>
>>51278639
>>51278614
Well it's weird because I want to use it as a development server, something I can just ssh into and install a web server and postgresql and just leave it running, but it would be nice to be able to use new tools instead of stuff from 2013. Things do improve pretty fast if you're a developer who wants nice and shiny new shit.
>>
>>51278671
Development server? Go testing/unstable then.
>>
>>51278671
If you want newish but still have debian stability, then go middle of the road, Testing.
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>>51278669
>Unironically recommending Debian testing
First of all, the security team doesn't work with testing, they only care about Unstable and then they backport it to Stable, eventually security stuff arrives testing but only after one week or more.
Testing is mere a placeholder for the next Debian so in the meanwhile, nobody gives a shit about it, seriously, nobody cares, the only moment when they start working in testing is when the next release is nearby and they freeze the whole branch.
Testing actually breaks more often than Unstable, yeah, you read that right, and when it does the breakages last longer than they do in Unstable.
You should be able to find more of this in Debian.org if you don't believe me.
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>>51274598
I would tar the directory if you just want a plain data dump, it makes sure all permissions etc are preserved regardless of future filesystems the backup may be moved to.
tar -cf /media/anon/petabyte-usb-drive/2015-11-10 /home/anon
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>>51278775
Then go fucking Unstable.
>>
This thread is deprecated -- move to >>51264804
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>>51278796
This, please do not create another thread like the last time.

>>51264804
>>51264804
>>51264804
>>51264804
>>51264804

>>51264804
>>51264804
>>51264804
>>51264804
>>51264804
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>>51278775
https://www.debian.org/security/faq#unstable
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>>51278488
Not entirely sure but it looks to me like your qt packages might not have been built with a particular USE flag that this package is looking for. Unless you just don't have one of the dependencies for it but it looks like a USE flag issue to me.
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>>51278873
>it looks like a USE flag issue
How to solve it then?
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>>51278895
If that's what it is then I guess you would need to create your own PKGBUILD of the problem package (qtmultimedia is a separate package in gentoo, not sure about arch) making sure that you pass the appropriate USE flags in the build process .

I just looked at qt5-multimedia 5.5.1-3 on arch, the PKGBUILD looks complicated and I can't discern what USE flags are passed to it. In gentoo these are the flags:

 + + alsa         : Add support for media-libs/alsa-lib (Advanced Linux Sound Architecture)
- - debug : Enable extra debug codepaths, like asserts and extra output. If you want to get meaningful
backtraces see https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Quality_Assurance/Backtraces
- - egl : Enable EGL integration
- - gstreamer : Enable audio support via media-libs/gstreamer:1.0
- - gstreamer010 : Enable audio support via media-libs/gstreamer:0.10
- - openal : Add support for the Open Audio Library
- - pulseaudio : Add support for PulseAudio sound server
- - qml : Build QML/QtQuick bindings and imports
- - test : Workaround to pull in packages needed to run with FEATURES=test. Portage-2.1.2 handles this
internally, so don't set it in make.conf/package.use anymore
- - widgets : Build the QtMultimediaWidgets module


I have no idea which one you would need for this, assuming this is the problem. Are there not bug reports about building it on AUR or on the packages bug tracker?
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>>51278895
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/yacreader/
Look at the dependencies, did you use those particular versions? This looks like a rabbit hole, you might want to consider something else, at least until this package relaxes a little in it's bleeding requirements.
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