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ITT: We post things you will never see Snyder-verse Superman do on the big screen.
>>81548699
This is hilarious.
>Should I tell Lois that the man was fine by the time I got there? No, I'll take this conveniently located sex doll and put it on a giant fish! That's the only solution I can see.
>>81548921
Silver age is crazy man.
>>81548699
op said things snyder *wouldn't* do
>>81548247
>We post things you will never see Snyder-verse Superman do on the big screen.
Ok, how about he acknowledges that he's killed some assholes and regrets it immensely, you know, to build context as to why Superman doesn't kill, because character development is important, something apparently that people knew even back in the Silver Age but flies right over Snyder's faggot head.
>>81549166
But NOT killing is NOT cool, anon. Superman is with "it". he KNOWS what "it" is, unlike you jive ass turkey
>>81549166
Superman shouldn't have a no-kill code, he should be the sort that kills only in specific super-extreme situations when it really is the best option for everyone.
Boy was raised on a farm, sometimes he knows you need to pull the trigger.
So he would kill Zod like he has done in multiple movies but feel bad about it afterward even though it was a necessary course of action.
>>81549182
Why are you trying to quote an Old Spice commercial from 2010?
>>81549166
I love that Snyder is somehow edgier than Alan "RapeRapeRape" Moore.
>>81549224
Too bad he never touches upon his guilt in DoJ, seems like a sort of important thing you'd want to, to talk about that with somebody, even if it's just for the audience, so as to not make Lex right about you.
Instead we get a guy that has the emotional stability of a limp cock who doesn't even want to really help anybody.
>>81549150
This needs Hal Jordan standing by the side, looking horrified.
>>81549168
Jesus God. They really didn't pull their punches back then, did they?
>>81549224
>Boy was raised on a farm, sometimes he knows you need to pull the trigger.
And he never grew beyond that.
Really?
'Superman: Redneck Son'?
>>81549313
Generally, human beings can't get over how they were raised. The whole nature versus nurture argument is about that. If some kid is raised by assholes, chances are he's going to be one until he gets some serious introspection, which is a rarity.
>>81549313
Its not redneck to know sometimes you have to end a life, neither are all farmers rednecks just because they live in a rural area.
Farm kids just happen have these concepts of mortality ingrained upon them at an early age.
>>81549313
>Redneck
>Kansas
Farm people are not rednecks, they're hicks.
>>81549286
Snyder makes terrible movies, that's a fact that is self-evident and from his interviews he is clearly a dumbass who finds it impossible to understand superheroes and constantly ladles disdain upon the concept.
Do not watch them.
>>81549389
>Farm kids just happen have these concepts of mortality ingrained upon them at an early age.
Usually because farm animals don't last too long. They're engendered with a sense of responsibility regarding how life works and how unfair it can be due early life Old Yeller shit.
does anyone know where I can find bvs torn posters without 2016 in the middle?
there's 3 of these, these two and the Half face of both.
>>81549370
>human beings
I think I have isolated the weak point there.
>>81549393
I did not know that.
How about 'hayseeds'?
>>81549496
Oh, I do like that.
>>81549430
You have to witness Euthanasia and also deal with vermin and other wildlife in a terminal fashion to safeguard the farm and your livestock.
>>81549496
This is a really dumb handwave, almost at the level of the strawmen your see in comicbooks where a hero that kills a particular badguy is automatically going to jump off the slippery slope and start mowing down pursesnatchers and shoplifters.
My go-to "good guy Superman" panel.
>>81549546
The whole thing about Superman is that he was raised by humans to be human, which again is Nature versus Nurture. His being raised by humans is why he likes Earth, and why he doesn't want to stop being Clark Kent. Kal's nature is Kryptonian, but he was nurtured by Earth parents who instill in him a level headed farmers morality. It's why Lois thinks of him as an innocent country boy and why Clark and Lex are supposed to be good friends, because Clark is a moral compass for Lex that gets shattered if and when Lex finds out about Clark's secret.
Clark Kent is more important to Superman's surrounding cast of characters then his being Superman. You remove the hick nature from Clark and that fundamentally changes everything.
>>81549641
How is it dumb? Doesn't it follow?
I don't mean the "I killed once, now I shall kill again and again", I mean the point Superman is making about getting stronger by facing the same enemies over and over again.
>>81549775
>I mean the point Superman is making about getting stronger by facing the same enemies over and over again.
He and Goku would be such bros, they should never fight.
>>81549641
The thing is, it's been proven in real life repeatedly that the first kill is the hard one. Once you get over the first, it DOES become progressively easier. Entire studies have been done about this; it's why soldiers have to go through a buttload of psychological conditioning and indoctrination.
>>81549641
honestly it was the only picture I happened to have saved where Superman says more than three sentences, which is what I was looking for
>>81549248
Moore has simply a rape fetish that he inserts in his work regularly, but he deeply understand WHY superheroes work.
Snyder only sees cool explosions.
>>81549521
It will take like 5 minutes to photoshop numbers out, anon.
Just upload high resolution version and I can do it because why not.
>literally snyder
>>81549840
I'm not them, but there are some high res ones here.
http://www.impawards.com/2016/batman_v_superman_dawn_of_justice.html
>>81549829
It helps that Moore had a genuine love of the genre, even if he was youthfully condescending,
Before it fucked him.
>>81549860
No. Manchester Black is less full of shit
>>81549860
Manchester Black kills people for a REASON. Like, he does that actually trying to change to world into a better place by offing dictators and so on.
Snyder's Superman is exactly as passive as he used to be, just more lethal. THAT'S why it's stupid.
>>81549814
There's actually alot of "Killing is Wrong" superheroes that have actually killed multiple people through their vigilante careers. This includes Superman and Spiderman.
>>81549860
Snyder isn't a massive strawman, he's just a cunt.
Time to post the obvious answer.
>>81550217
If this had been a scene in Batman v Superman, Superman would have carried her to the ground without saying anything or even making eye contact, while funeral music played, and then just left. Afterwards there would have been a scene of him and Lois fucking in a bathtub while the girl hanged herself in her room.
>>81550217
>I actually want to edit this so Superman is snapping her neck in the last panel, telling Regan that this way is less work for street cleaners
>>81549166
He does that in the first fucking movie when he screams after killing zod.
He doesnt kill in BvS.
>>81550331
Doesn't he throw a nigger through 2 concrete walls a few seconds after he makes his first appearance in the movie?
>b-but he survived!
He slammed a MORTAL man through 2 CONCRETE walls and SUPER SONIC speeds. There is no way in fucking hell he's alive after that. Also I thought he indirectly killed a village in Africa by taking out the leader, therefore allowing another group of terrorist to chimp out and kill everyone there or something. I don't even know, the movie was confusing as fuck.
>>81550217
superman is such a moralfaggot it pisses me off. why cant he be written as not a moralfaggot yet also not man of murder?
>>81548247
>Worrying that a cat will die from falling off the roof
I beat that she also gives her cat milk
>>81550378
>concrete
More like mud.
>There is no way in fucking hell he's alive after that.
There is. Superman absorbs most of the impact, remember: BIOAURA.
> Also I thought he indirectly killed a village in Africa by taking out the leader, therefore allowing another group of terrorist to chimp out and kill everyone there or something.
All that was BS, it was luthor's men who killed the people there.
>>81550378
>I don't even know, the movie was confusing as fuck.
Eat less pop corn, watch the movie and pay attention, is a Snyder movie, the guy isnt smart, so there's nothing hard to understand.
1/7
>>81550217
why doesn't he just use his super heat vision to rewire her brain into non-depression
>>81550410
>Superman and Batman have to be as flawed as me!
Fuck off. Just read marvel shit.
>>81550476
>>81550489
Superman isn't very practical is he
In the time it takes to stop one suicidal dickhead from jumping, there are dozens of muggings and murders he could be stopping
>>81550499
>Implying Castro being alive is a bad thing
Fuck off superstooge.
Its inspiring that despite all of the CIA's retarded attempts to murder him he kept on trucking.
>>81550516
Well geeze how many people died while Superman hovered there with this suicidal bitch? And why didn't he just use his super speed to fly down and switch the lights off instead of damaging city property?
oh wait
>>81550534
Him being alive is not the bad thing, the government rape on the population is.
>>81550410
the whole point of superman is that you can be powerful and not become corrupt, that's the example he sets that we can aspire to.
only someone who hates altruism wants to see Superman brought down low, which is the point of Lex Luthor.
>>81550530
Why not post the next page where the police asks if he would have let her fall if she jumped.
>>81550410
Read TDKR/TDKSA or Kingdom Come
>>81550514
Metropolis has an entire army of lesser vigilantes running about. Super Man keeps tabs on them but otherwise acknowledges he can't realistically handle all the crime in the city
In synder-verse, the moon would have been destroyed in an earlier fight
would he?
>>81550514
well yeah, but he could save even more people by just growing crops for the rest of eternity.
His stuff is about the message, more than the act. Lead by example, not force them into it.
Read Superman: Peace on Earth.
>>81550602
Don't have it on this computer, sadly.
>>81550663
Sense when?
>>81550763
scroll down to residents
http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Metropolis
>>81550663
Fucking who? The Super family sure as fuck doesn't for like 99% of the time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGtiinR6ni8
>Man of Murder will never give thisspeech
>>81550793
>>81550663
Thats hardly a small army, most of them are just the rest of the "superfamily" apart from a couple like the Captain America knockoffs that keep getting ganked by evil kryptonians.
>>81550841
>Thats hardly a small army
he was exagerting
>keep getting ganked by evil kryptonians.
That has literally zero to do with what he said, but go on, keep spouting shit to make it seem like you have a point.
>>81550562
Well geez how many hungry Africans died while you typed that post? And why don't you just use your hands or brains for a simple job and send some money to a charity?
>>81550899
You aren't making any point yourself.
On top of that your typing is terrible.
>>81550922
You're being stupid, Anon does not have superman-tier superpowers literally letting him do feats that are impossible to mortal men.
>>81550939
>y-your typing is terrible
really?
>>81550939
>On top of that your typing is terrible.
happens wheyn you drink a lot
>>81550530
FUCK YOU! ;_; y u make me feel this way?
>>81550952
writing a check is impossible to mortal men?
>>81550953
'R'eally.
>>81550952
Do you need superpowers to do good?
>>81550562
That's kinda missing the whole point though.
>>81550952
Isn't the whole point of Superman (see >>81550671) that everyone can do good, and Clark just happens to have superpowers?
>>81550516
Couldn't he have just flown down to ask them rather than destroying their cable?
>>81551007
As much good as superman? Yeah pretty much.
A normal person can't do anything important in say the middle of the street in a couple of minutes, for someone like Clark with his speed and flight those couple of minutes are like a lifetime comparatively and he can do a massive amount of 'good' that affect a staggering amount of people.
>>81550482
Oh god. I could actually see Snyder doing this.
>>81550499
>Kadaffi was a bad guy
Fuck this shit. Seriously fuck this shit, superman would never be that ignorant
>>81550534
I agree with you
>>81550567
>Him being alive is not the bad thing, the government rape on the population is.
You are talking about America or Cuba?.
How many countries has Castro invaded?
>>81548247
Yeah, Superman saves cats while millions starve in Africa under the rule of oppressive warlords. Yeup.
>>81550331
Anons were debating as recently as this year what the scream was actually about, and every anon was as sure their intepretation was correct as you are right know.
>>81551070
Doing that would kind of be like putting someone that's called the suicide hotline on hold, and you're not supposed to do that.
>>81550484
This.
>>81551100
Hey plutonian, how are you?
>>81551084
And a billionaire can give a million yearly to charity, while I can only give a few hundred. Even if they give more percentually, are they a better person then?
Allow me to quote some wisdom from Mark 12 from the Bible:
>41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
>42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
>43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
>44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
>>81550473
>There is. Superman absorbs most of the impact, remember: BIOAURA.
That's not how that works. The WALL is what absorbs the impact in that situation.
>>81551108
Well she did ask him to.
>>81550805
>No one stays good in this world
>>81551098
>>Kadaffi was a bad guy
He was a good guy in the sense that Hitler was a good guy for a couple of years
>>81551100
Remember when Atom Eve built a fancy house & garden in Africa and despite her powers and her cultivation was drawn just handing out prepackaged food to the nearby tribals?
And her whole vanity project was just dropped when she got bored of it and moved back into the main plot with the writer's not even giving a shit about it? Those villager's totally got the shit raped out of them by the nearest warlord wanting to move on that now valuable growing land now that its superpowered caretaker had left.
>>81551100
>Superman saves cats while millions starve in Africa under the rule of oppressive warlords.
>superman rescues cats while Israel bombs Palestina
>superman rescues cats while american soldiers rape girls in Irak
>Superman rescues cars while Obama orders bombings in syria and ships weapons to "rebels" that will join isis.
This is why your logic doesnt work. There's no moral justification for superman to get involved in one conflict and not stop others from doing harm to the innocent.
If you want Batman to Kill the Joker you should ask yourself why Superman doesnt Kill the president and takes over the world.
>>81551131
>Quoting the bible as evidence
>>81551171
It's a parable you daft fuck. What you're saying is that powerful people can do more good, and thus powerful people have to do good, and thus only powerful people have to do good.
>>81551166
Because killing the president is not how you take over the world you retard, the president is just one single politician in a fancy office not the divine king of Earth.
>>81549286
except he does just that several times in the film.
Fucking idiot.
>>81550530
So, how many people died while Supes was hanging out for the whole afternoon with this suicidal broad?
>>81550484
Hey, don't be lumping jackasses like that into the Marvel fandom. We like Captain America for many of the same reasons that you like Superman (indeed, there's definitely some overlap between the two fandoms).
>>81551209
No you retard. Those were 2 separate things. Superman not taking over the world is a negative thing. And Superman not Killing Obama (or president sanchez) is a bad thing too
>>81551236
read the thread you fucking idiot. last 30 posts have been about it
>>81548247
But there was a Huff piece article about him saving a cat up on a tree
>>81551270
>Huff
>>81551238
>We like Captain America for many of the same reasons that you like Superman
Dont pretend to put Steve in the same tier as Superman or Batman.
Steve is a good guy, but in DC he is average as fuck. His morals are compromised by the fact he is a SOLDIER, At DC he would be like Captain Atom. Don't get me wrong, he is a extremely good person with strong values. But At DC you people like Captain Marvel. Superman Morality goes above what even the best SOLDIER can be.
Just by be willing to kill Captain america shows he isnt as Godly .
>>81550482
Hello Brainiac.
>Martha made it for me.
>>81551358
My biggest gripe still. I just wished the kryptonian suit is irrepearable after BvS(since it was pierced by Doomsday at the chest) and now his Mom tailored that costume just for him
>>81550217
That's my favorite Superman page. Cry everytime I read it.
>>81550684
I can't help but think how differently this would play out of you replaced him with the Punisher.
>>81550217
Does Superman give her the Superdick?
>>81551537
>her
>>81551293
Yes, Cap is a soldier (albeit following the ideals of the United States rather than its government). Yes, he has killed before, and if he absolutely had to, he would kill again, although that would not be a decision he would make lightly (indeed, much the same could be said of non-Snyder Superman, if you haven't forgotten about Doomsday during The Death of Superman, and Darkseid during Final Crisis; Superman, however, has less of a need to do so due to his sheer power, which means that not only can he afford to take the non-lethal route more often, he pretty much has to or else become a monster indistinguishable from the villains he fights). And yes, unlike Superman, Cap is just as mortal as any other human.
But within the context of the Marvel Universe, Cap plays much the same role as Superman: he is the paragon. He is the ideal that most people within his universe respect, even quite a few of his enemies. He is the contrast to all the guilt-ridden Spider-Men, berserk Wolverines, and bloodthirsty Punishers out there. He is the guy that other superheroes strive to be like.
>>81550684
Next page Superman smacks around the kid with his dad while laughing maniacally - MoS II
>>81551166
That's not really an equal comparison. Just because a cop kills a spree shooter doesn't mean he has to kill a bunch African warlords.
>>81551293
Captain Atom has the issue that he can't see past his duty though. Captain America has done so in the past.
>>81551166
>>81551209
Honestly, logically having a benevolent, immortal Supergod as the world's leader would probably be better than what we've got.
>>81551591
>doomsday
Not human.
>Darkseid
Not human.
One think you must understand, the "ideals of the united states" and that's why the character is flawed. Americans ideals are not perfect.
I do agree they occupy the same role in their respective universes. But that speaks about the differences between the Universes. People like Tony would be considered Supervillians at DC.
>>81551708
So in a universe of intelligent alien civilizations you think its okay to murder things just because they are not human beings? You are fucked up.
>>81551465
Your gripe is, Superman shouldn't be able to sew an earth made garment, but saving the planet is ok?
>>81551735
Arguably Doomsday is only as intelligent as maybe an ape.
>>81551465
I always thought the idea of the "S" being a Kryptonian symbol was stupid as fuck. Makes more sense if it's just an S for Super.
>>81551775
apes feel too you monster
>>81551708
Doesn't Superman fight for Truth, Justice, and the American Way? I mean what makes his ideals more perfect than anyone else from Kansas?
>>81551791
I've seen some costume designs where the S is a bit more abstract where it would make sense as an alien symbol that kinda resembles an english S, but I do agree with you
>>81551708
>Not human.
Darkseid was fully intelligent though. It wasn't about him being nonhuman. It was about him being the undisputed king of unrepentant genocidal pricks.
>>81551735
Doomsday isnt a setient being. And is not truly alive.
And Darkseid is a GOD. He wasnt alive anymore. It was the flashes the one that pushed him out of the realm of the living.
>>81551874
>Doomsday isnt a setient being
He is, actually. More than once he's spoken to superman.
>>81550684
source?
>>81548247
People like you just shit up the board even more
>>81551522
just add at the end of the final scentence "but that 'd have been too quick"
>>81552404
Well maybe they should've made a half decent movie
>>81551791
>>81551831
I personally like it being the Kryptonian symbol for "hope" as well as the family crest of the House of El. It actually makes sense to have it this way when it's seen before people start calling him "Superman".Not to mention that, when it's flipped upside-down, it becomes the Kryptonian symbol for "resurrection".
>>81552322
Superman: Grounded.
>>81549933
Oh, the irony!
>>81551874
>>81551775
Doomsday is entirely sapient, killing him is just like killing any human psycho.
>>81552273
Sapien and setient are not always the same
>>81551136
FUCK ZACK SNYDER
>>81552715
He was capable of logical reasoning and experienced fear and knowledge of self.
Stop talking shit.
>Sapien
That's not a word.
I like how superman without his Clark kent upbringing is just a cocky narcissistic bastard.
Really shows a lot about how much clark kent brings to his personality.
>>81548699
what the fuck is this. What is this dialogue. WHat the fuck is Lois even saying in the 3rd panel
>>81549308
THIS. This is the fucking superman I wanted on the big screen, instead we got TotallyNotBats!Superman
So this is a superman thread right?
>>81553691
No, its a goku thread
>>81553635
But Clark has a beard in MoS.
>>81551522
he did once murder two parents who were making kiddie porn with their own kids.
>>81553090
I once read, "for Clark Kent, superman is the disguise, for Batman, Bruce Wayne is the disguise"
A rare picture of Man of Moidah smiling
>>81551693
I'd rather take an Omega Beam straight to the balls, than have Supes be disappointed in me.
>>81553826
Well its true, Clark IS Clark with Superman just being his superhero alias, and Kal El might be his birth name but he's still the boy that was raised in the town of Smallville from a baby by loving human parents.
Clark Kent is who he is.
Bruce on the other hand lost his childhood when his parents were murdered in front of him, he's much more obsessed with being the Bat due to the resulting trauma.
>>81548247
>ITT: We post things you will never see Snyder-verse Superman do on the big screen.
Guess we can't post Lois
I want more adventures with Krypto.
>we will never get the super family on the big screen
>>81551166
>>81551667
It's been established over years that Supes doesn't want to be "supergod" because he can't solve everything and save everyone, or else it weighs on his mind. He can only be selfless and set an example for everyone to better themselves instead of doing everything for them. Superman saves a cat out of a tree instead of killing african warlords because even a small and simple gesture like saving a cat from a tree is a symbol of hope and kindness. The next time a cat gets stuck in a tree, the community thinks "What would superman do?" and makes an effort to help the cat.
This is the perfect superman page and shows what the character should be >>81551693
Doesn't even need to raise a fist. Superman is disappointed in you because you can be better than that. Superman doesn't beat you up like the bat does and gets you thrown in Blackgate. He tells you to be a better person and lets you walk away. And even the biggest assbeating from the bat wouldn't even come close to the pain you would feel that Superman is disappointed in you.
>>81550378
He literally said afterwords 'I didn't kill those men."
>>81549168
>he sneezes on a solar system destroyed by space plague, spreading it across the galaxy, dooming untold trillions
I'm glad you fags are never going to get your shitty Superman.
>>81554674
Is batman 66 actually good?
>>81554568
>I'm an orphan too...
Fuck you Clark. You grew up on a farm with 2 loving parents.
>But muh planet
That you never went to, never experienced, never had a life on.
>>81551131
>Even if they give more percentually, are they a better person then?
Assuming they didn't just inherit all of it, objectively Yes.
They created more net utility for the world and were rewarded for it, and then decided to share part of that reward with the less fortunate.
>>81554005
Fucking attention seeking bitches jumping off bridges just to spend time with superhunk.
>>81553935
Which also means teaching them how to be American and the values of such. Not just allowing them in to set up old world clostiers that isolate them from society. Sup Michigan.
Nice how they cherry pick that now to make it agree with current immigration.
>>81554499
>>81554542
Things Snyder PA Kent wouldn't say.
>>81554687
>Iron Giant derivative shit
>>81554851
>objectively
Haha. You're so cute.
>>81555124
Here you go mane
>>81554800
>That you never went to, never experienced, never had a life on.
Many orphans out there never knew or experienced their birth parents, that doesn't stop their right to feel insecure because of their situation. And Clark as experienced Krypton, most of the time through the tech he has in the Fortress of Solitude, but there have been plenty of stories where he's gone there to see what he would be missing, which would only deepen the sense of lose for him.
You do all realize that Supes was battling a homicidal member of his species with the same powers destroying Metropolis right? And that he was going to fry innocent civillians if Supes didn't snap his neck?
Also he killed Zod in both the comics and the second movie.
>>81554371
Good. The only one worth mentioning is the dog.
>>81553826
That's casual shit
>>81555597
Yes and people seem to have a problem with Batman going around killing people in DoJ without slightest care that Batman of Murder got restarted in Batman Begins when he decided not to save Ras. That was a premeditated decision.
>>81555723
>Not liking Power Girl
>>81549224
And he does. Superman has no problem using lethal force against doomsday, darkseid, the anti-monitor, etc., because those are all serious threats where lethal force is necessary.
>>81555801
People complain about that scene in Batman Begins all the fucking time, the difference is that movie is 11 years old.
Stop jumping through hoops to convince yourself people have some kind of anti snyder bias
>>81555995
You don't need hoops for an anti snyder-bias, no one here wanted him on anything after Watchmen
>>81555597
He didn't kill him in the film.
The comics are often shit, that doesn't make it okay for the films to also be shit.
And he could have stopped Zod another way. I mean, fuck he could have just flown up while holding him in a head lock. The scene does a monumentally bad job of making it seem necessary. Which is made all the worse since it follows scenes comprising of Supes showing absolutely zero concern for all the other people doubtlessly being killed as he battles Zod.
Ultimately it's more the terrible execution (no pun intended) that people object to. It's not that superman kills that's a problem, it's that the film handles it really, really, badly.
>>81549224
A corn farm, not a meat farm
>>81548247
>things you will never see Snyder-verse Superman do
>>81556055
Thinking that the films someone has made are bad because the films they have made are bad is not a bias.
>>81556266
Had there been one more minute in which Superman tries to get Zod not to fight in the city only for Zod to laugh in his face and then spitefully drop a building with heat vision because he knew it wasn't what Superman wanted, that would have been better. It would have made the battle a triage situation for Superman.
>>81549158
WTF
>>81556335
Thank you Sherlock
>>81556378
The number of times you can count Superman making himself resistant or immune to kryptonite in the years since its inception from the radio show is numerous.
>>81554023
this so much
Someone needs to tie Snyder to a chair Clockwork Orange style and make him read comics until he realizes that Superman isn't Superman because he's Kal-El, Superman is Superman because he's Clark Kent.
>>81556272
Still have to protect your crops from pests
>>81556489
And play ball with Monsanto, which would make his parents pretty jaded.
Anyone know the source of this panel
>>81556390
I read this comic a while back but can't find it. Does anyone know the issue?
>>81556645
Supermane adventures #25
>>81550514
>>81551236
>He could have saved more peole while doing this shit
Did you even fucking read the pages?
----> >>81550510 it says it right fucking here.
>>81548247
Man, I could really believe that Superman seeks out opportunities like these so he doesn't become completely jaded
>>81556645
I don't but from the art I'd guess it's Batman Adventures.
>>81554396
What's the actual ending of this page?
>>81556727death of Pa Kent from Brainiac arc
>>81551098
>How many countries has Cuba invaded
How many countries has NK invaded. Does that make the Un's good people. Look I'm ethnically Cuban, and I could never find a single person (of the same heritage) with something good to say about him. He's a dictator who ruthlessly enforces poor policies and a cult of personality. Plain and simple.
>>81556946
>I'm an ethnic Cuban
Stopped reading there. All ethnic Cubans outside of Cuba are whiny bitches who couldn't leave the Cold War behind and want to drag everyone else down with them.
>>81550144
Someone dying from the results of your actions is different than Murdering someone.
Sometimes you're forced to end a life, sometimes they end up dying accidentaly.
The "first kill" thing is only relevant when you straight up slay a nigga when you had other options.
>>81557281
As opposed to non ethnic Cubans outside Cuba?
>>81557360
Spiderman has literally killed supervillains straightup because there was no other way for him to overcome them, though its usually through bullshit science rather than just ripping a bad guy's head off
>>81557394
Yeah? What's your point? Not every Cuban is born there.
>>81557492
Ethnic doesn't mean born there
>>81557447
>because there was no other way for him to overcome them
That's my point. He had no other options. The "killing gets easier" thing only applies when you kill someone as an easier alternative. If you try literally everything else possible and killing is the only solution, you're basically being forced to kill the bad guy.
>>81557531
I know you retard. My point is that non-ethnic cubans outside of cuba do exist.
>>81557602
>non-ethnic [ethnicity] exist
>>81553759
>>81553786
>>81553820
Holy fuck, way to cherry pick pages and miss the entire point of that story.
>>81549166
Well he did Scream in sorrow when he snapped Zod.
And really that comic is older than DC continuity, and hardly signifies more recent Superman stories.
Hell Superman has killed doomsday like at least 3 times, and maybe Brainiac once
>>81557934
Sorry man, those were the only pages I have on my phone. I think I have the full comic on my computer
>>81554582
Lol - how out of touch is this pampered demigod? Once that kid gets put in the system he has a 60% chance of being molested and a 90% chance of winding up in jail. Comics like these just piss me off; the writers should at least attempt to go for genuine empathy over this saccharine shit that has no basis in reality and no real message beyond 'feelings'.
>>81557969
I'm just saying, that selection greatly misrepresents that comic as a whole.
>>81558054
I understand what you mean. I think the only a writer got it right was in Spider-Man gauntlet, when spidey had to return a girl sandman stole
>>81558085
True, I didn't realize that. I just saved them cuz they were my favorite pages
>>81555570
>Many orphans out there never knew or experienced their birth parents
Orphans don't have a shit time because they never got to meet people they never felt anything for in the first place; orphans have a shit time because people are inherently selfish, meaning cast offs are often left in a position of total isolation after a certain age, and they've spent years in a government funded,bureaucratic, mausoleum where they were likely raped or abused in some other way. Clark never had to deal with any of that. Clark had the powers and bearing of a god, a home all his own, a community, and two parents who loved each other and cared deeply about him.
>>81550534
have you ever been to Cuba? I have, people are fucking starving there, people with higher education working in menial jobs like cab drivers, hell, the whole touristic zone which is supposed to be the better looking one is littered with beggars, mostly children
>>81558196
Makes sense. And would be amusing to think of someone reading it now based on those pages alone.
>>81556886
Yeah but isn't there the bit where Luthor just can't fathom what he's seeing? I remember reading the page but I've never had a chance to read the story or even what it's called.
>>81557602
>non-ethnic ethnicities exist
Go back to Tumblr you fucking loon.
>>81551708
>"ideals of the united states"
Are you implying that Superman doesn't reflect the same ideals?
Did you forget about Truth, Justice, and the AMERICAN Way?
![3289634-superman+-+symbol_iconic_color_7x-lrg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YoVh2wG.jpg "3289634-superman+-+symbol iconic color 7x-lrg[1]")
>>81550514
>>81551236
Anon, this may shock and amaze you, but Superman isn't real.
This story is plainly absurd. While Superman is floating, waiting for this one jumper to calm down and talk to him, the sun in the background sinks beneath the horizon as noon becomes evening and evening becomes night. He just floats. There are almost certainly "better" ways he could be spending his time. Statistically speaking, it's almost certain that there's been a car crash or a plane accident or a murder or a robbery or a bombing or a fire or another /actual suicide/ in that time that Superman could have stopped.
That doesn't matter, because it's not real, it's a story. Superman's not a real man who has to conform to real restrictions, or balance his time between crises like a policeman or fireman might have to. He doesn't have to pick and choose, because he's a symbol - in this case, of the person who will always be there for you, who will always wait for you to be ready to talk, who will never leave you because they've got more important things to be doing, who will always respect your wishes and will always hear you out, who loves you unconditionally.
The story did not happen. Which makes what happened in the story all the more significant – there is none of the chaotic chaff of reality to drown out the truth. Everything that happened did so not because it was logical, but because it was true.
>>81551106
The only people who didn't agree that he screamed in horror and grief because of what he did were shitposters saying: "Nu uh I don't buy it snyder's superman enjoys killing"
>>81558550
>HGGTG
NEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRDBig buff nerds are adorable
>>81558812
>and the AMERICAN Way
was only added when they started the radio dramas, because we can't let people think a superstrong alien who beats up mobsters and corrupt businessmen might be a c-c-communist!
Even the goddamn avatar of the green wants to be Supes
>>81549224
>Superman shouldn't have a no-kill code
I genuinely can't stand people like you.
>>81559877
But Superman killed monsters and abominations.
He killed in all star Superman.
>>81560108
The film is non-canon.
>>81550684
Why would Superman use stairs?
>>81553090
>I like how superman without his Clark kent upbringing is just a cocky narcissistic bastard.
That was never Clark or Superman, it was Superboy.
>>81525250
Thread related.
>>81560257
What's the difference?
>>81560200
But it's purpose was to present Superman to non comic book readers wasn't it?
Also DCU isn't Canon with the comics yet people bitch about the man of neck snapping.
>>81556544
Adventures of Superman 028 (2013)
Just read it last night. This chapter with the Joker was interesting. I haven't seen any other stories where Supes intimidates the Joker by talking him down.
>>81560360
Didn't people really hated this part?
>>81550684
Replace dad with DC/WB.
>>81548729
I want him to hug me
>>81556886
Someone should reedit this to have MoS Pa.
>WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING CLARK NEVER USE YOUR POWERS
>If you see someone in need of help, let them die, can't have people thinking my son is some kind of freak.
>>81560108
>He killed in all star Superman.
Who?
>>81560377
People are stupid, they probably rooted for the joker and wondered where harley was this whole time.
>>81560360
i liked that issue. its heavy handed joker hate but given how popular he is in some comic book circles i think its well deserved
>>81559877
What does Superman having a no-kill code even bring to the table? My reaction upon hearing that he would develop one from after MoS was, "sure, as long as they don't actually acknowledge it, and we don't get a scene with him actively sparing Brainiac or Darkseid."
>>81549711
you forgot the second one
>>81553935
Weren't they using him to insult 'the japs' a decade earlier?
>>81549773
This
>>81557953
It was the first time he showed guilt about what he considered his mistakes, it's old but important because it set a precedent for the character.
>>81550410
then don't read superman comics
>>81559148
I agree with you but I feel like we have a split of idealogy similar to the Monotheist and orthodox christians.
I believe that superman is a symbol, yes. But he is a symbol of "The better man", by setting an example for the rest of humanity all of population of earth will eventually better themselves.
The endgame plan is that eventually everyone of us will better ourselves and usher an utopia, mostly I base my interpretation on All-star
>>81550514
>>81551236
anon, read Red Son. It pretty much explains why superman should not try to micro manage every single leaf on the planet.
>>81560934
>What does Superman having a no-kill code even bring to the table?
1. It shows he merits the title World's Greatest Superhero
2. It shows the warrior class doesn't rule all of existence.
3. It shows the flaws of consequentialist ideals through out history
4. He keeps the high ground
5. You can keep his saintly (notice I didn't say Jesus) or mythic parallels which distinguish him from other characters
6. Keeps the character congruent. A kind couple took a massive risk of sheltering Clark while he was at his most unpredictable and vulnerable. Thus Clark believes all life is precious.
7. World building. Clark should be rehabilitating Phantom Zone criminals. That's how prisons are suppose to work.
8. Accentuates Superman's intelligence not lack thereof.
>>81561422
>It shows he merits the title World's Greatest Superhero
By being a giant pussy?
>>81560996
Yep
>>81561529
>By being a giant pussy?
I don't believe not killing is cowardice.
>>81549496
>Superman is Goku
>>81561529
By showing he'll try to save everyone, from a little kid to a serial killer.
>>81550410
Pat please leave
Don't think this has been posted yet.
>>81556830
>>81556859
>>81556886
I know the Snyder-Kents are terrible people, but this just highlights it even more.
>>81549806
I can see Superman getting annoyed that Goku keeps trying to fight him, and he just wants to do his job.
>>81561748
Man that triggered me during the movie
>Ma kent: Be their savior. Or don't.
Bitch, what?
>>81561849
She's right you know. Superman really doesn't have to do anything for the people.
>>81561892
its not about having to do anything its about wanting to help them because you can
>>81556378
Either he's been rendered immune Oooor somebody sold the dumb crook some painted rocks.
>>81561849
What got me was "You don't owe them anything."
Um, no...you're the reason every single person died in Metropolis for not taking a single precaution while you activated a alien ship that's been on Earth forever. Your "what could go wrong" attitude could have easily destroyed the Earth. ALMOST DID yet despite that killed daughters, sons, moms, destroyed people and those who survived got to watch more people die all around them.
>You don't owe the Earth anything
The Earth would have been better off if Clark died in space as an infant.
>>81556886
Goddamit anon, I did not want these feels!
What a long company war, bros.
>>81561892
Even a hardcore superfan like Mark Waid said so in Irredeemable.
>>81561892
>She's right you know. Superman really doesn't have to do anything for the people.
What a fucked up lesson that is. You don't owe anything and that's what you should base your moral obligation on. Y'know, if there's no obligation then...eh....
>>81562126
Kinda the point. You should do "good" because is the right thing to do. Not for obligation nor thinking that it will get praise.
>>81562042
I bought it as a collection of comics called superman:last son of krypton, on comixology. I think it's Geoff John's action comic 866-870 or 844-846
>>81561705
That's not why Pat dislikes Superman, he doesn't mind moralfags, he doesn't like him because the believes that Superman is perfect and always wins which is a farce. This is the same person who rarely even reads comics and who thinks the old Lois and Clark television show has some sort of bearing on the character in terms relevance.
One of the funniest things I've heard him say is that Superman devalues him as a person. I laughed for five minutes at the thought in the insecurity and absurdity of a fictional character accomplishing that for him. Because good. He's a fat, bald, short, sheltered dumbass, who can't even drive a car, or cook, or has any skills other than making internet videos in which he plays video games for a paycheck. 99% of the people on this planet already devalue him as a person and they're fucking real.
Can someone explain why Snyder hate Superman so much? I mean, he can't understand that he ruining one of the best comic charcater? I WANT MUH SUPS TO BE GRIM AND GUILTY AND STAFF, YOU KNOW. HE IS A GOD. No, he is the most Human of all earthlings. GODDAMNIT HOW IS THIS EVEN ALLOWED TO MAKE SUPS ANGRY TARD? ARE WB BLIND OR SMTH?
>>81562347
THIS. THIS IS WHAT BVS NEEDED. JESUS CHRIST, SNYDER. WAS IT REALLY THAT HARD?!
>>81549806
They'd have righteous sparing matches, then Supes would treat Goku to some Ma Kent home cooking.
>>81562347
>"THAT'S UM,"
Way to look completely uncool after our speech.
>>81562296
>One of the funniest things I've heard him say is that Superman devalues him as a person.
God I busted out laughing when he actually brought it up during the Deus Ex episode
>>81558525
I think it was superman 900
http://readcomiconline.com/Comic/Action-Comics-1938/Issue-900?id=26351
>>81562429
Well, he is Superman. He is a bit of a dork.
>>81562339
Snyder is just ignorant, it's Warner Brothers that's fucking with Superman.
In finding fault, the singular idiot is the last person you blame.
>>81562296
>One of the funniest things I've heard him say is that Superman devalues him as a person
Holy Shit. That's pathetic!
How does Snyder keep getting work?
>>81562296
>and who thinks the old Lois and Clark television show has some sort of bearing on the character in terms relevance.
Technically it does as the only reason Doomsday killed Superman was so that they could stall in the comics long enough for his marriage to Lois to coincide with the Lois and Clark TV show.
And we can't act like his death is irrelevant because, well, BvS exists.
>>81562296
>One of the funniest things I've heard him say is that Superman devalues him as a person.
I wonder how many of these people are in the industry.
>>81562429
And that's totally okay because Superman isn't perfect!
>>81550410
Awwshitnigga, yu caem to da wong board muffukka! Dis be da house of S yo and we ain't having no bitchniggas bitching bout our soldja boi! Nau get yo punkass, bitchass, pussyass booty back to >>>>/tumblr/ before I go bootywarrior on yo ass!
>>81562634
Frank Cho is one of them.
>>81562347
Sauce?
What about Wonder Woman?
It's basically the same case for her.
>>81554800
>That you never went to, never experienced, never had a life on.
For the man who has everything? World of new Krypton? Fuck off, casual
>>81562797
We can't see is she ruined in Snyderverse already or not. Well, she is absolutely fucked up at main universe of comics. So dunno. Need to wait till 2017 to know.
Also I bet she gonna fuck Bruce in Snyderverse.
>>81562797
Is that part of her lasso?
>>81562797
Love wondie but she is her own character and this is a super thread. You might find more love if you OP a WW thread
>>81562274
goddamn
>>81562908
Yes. Hopefully it can't be used in spells onr anything because that kid now has a giant fucking target on his back
>>81563039
Wow god awful art
>>81562598
Superman's death was only relevant for the publicity stunt, you should know that, and that only works once with a character like Superman. And of course a television show of some popularity will mess with the comics of that day. The comics market, even the Big Two are forever desperate for exposure. But still thinking Lois and Clark is relevant to the character or has any say in continuity now is stupid and only a person who wallows in their ignorance in the subject matter would bring up how Superman can vibrate his molecules like the Flash, just because he did it once in that old show, and somehow construe that to the character on contemporary terms. Which he has done. He does the same shit for the Silver Age, bringing Superdickery up like it's continuity relevant, which fucking retarded. That's like someone thinking Batman still has the diamond encrusted deputy badge he got from the mayor of Gotham back in the day.
>>81551293
>Implying gods have a problem with killing.
>>81563060
It's deliberate.
>>81563039
Did Greg land draw this?
>>81556378
Some goverment science experiment went kablooey, turning all Kryptonite into lead. The story's actually really good, and got a trade reprint a while back.
>>81554371
>tfw you're one of the few people who like Jimmy Olsen, and nobody in TV or Hollywood want the Mr Action who sometimes gets in over his head and has to think his way out of trouble.
>>81554762
Better than it has any right to be.
>>81562797
I wonder if Wonder Woman reads Nana to Kaoru: Black Label? She does like bondage.
>>81563066
I guess I just have a hard time getting mad at a random candadian youtuber when the director of the last two Superman movies is twice as ignorant.
>>81563427
I would like a show about just the Daily Planet, reporters and the news people that work there. Superman doesn't even show up, it's just Clark and the gang doing news and getting into office drama.
>>81548699
I love this age of Superman. It's too damn funny. Super ventriloquism used to be his most valuable power.
>>81563735
I would like this too, but I fear the closest we'll ever get is Lois&Clark
>>81549182
Get off of 4chan Luke, what would your Grandmother think?
>>81563039
Are those the laughing bitches?
>>81563591
>Charizard
>Pulls up a card of sara
Anyone have that page of 2 wannabe robbers and when they look up, they see superman then supes goes "those guns dont have bullets in them. just go home and be a family man"
>>81563632
I'm not mad either, I hope you understand that. I just find it amusing and enjoy the schadenfreude in how nonsensical one person can be about something like a comic book character just because they connect him with the over-achiever kid in school whose praise they're still jealous of years later. It's amazingly petty, to the point that you can't not laugh at it.
>>81563980
It's not even Wonder Woman, it's Barda, I just wanted something vaguely Japanese to go with my bondage manga comment.
>>81563591
Bitch that's not Charizard
Metropolis will never be marvelous again
>>81548699
This is why I loved Superman III ultimately, in addition to being endeared by what Clark considered evil acts when he committed them.
This is basically the new style of butthurt thread isn't it?
>>81563386
jesus, why didn't they give Ennis his own solo Superman title? I would have read this over any Jurgens or Byrne drivel
>>81550596
This absolutely
>>81562676
Superman Secret Origin
>>81549546
get the heck out of here lex
>>81563039
>Two dresses
>Not two suits
stupid/10
>>81564834
Isn't it best source to get matherial to make awesome Superman movie? It would be total win. WHY WE JUST CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS? :(
>>81565043
Not all lesbians are wannabe lumberjacks anon
>>81565082
Zack Snyder hates Clark Kent
>>81565093
I thought free pancakes was part of the deal?
>>81565151
What a strong heterosexual working woman
>>81563591
I needed this anon, thank you and thank who ever made this.
>>81550482
red son
>>81549150
Spoiler that shit this is a blue board.
>>81550952
>>81550671
i dont hate you, superman wouldnt want that, but i do pity you for your ignorance.
>>81549814
The US Marines used to have part of basic training be learning to kill.
With an Army ambulance nearby in case something goes wrong, they group into sets of two. You strangle your partner until they go limp. People instinctively fight, they kick and sputter and flail. They turn beet red and shudder and go limp.
The medics then revive them, give half an hour to calm down, then you get strangled. You panic, you feel more afraid than you ever have before because you just go wild then everything goes black and you wake up not even knowing how long you were out.
When you leave boot camp for specialist schools or the field, you know what its like to kill and what its like to die.
Now remember that Pa Kent was a Marine in Korea for awhile in continuity.
>>81551084
important? whos to say that good you do is less important than superman? that page where superman just talks and stays with the woman on the ledge man, if i couldve just done something so simple, ya know. its not how big of a gesture anon. its just that you try.
>>81565527
That is manly as fuck.
>>81551236
How many people could he save if he quit his day job at the daily planet?
>>81563591
Isn't that Big Barda?
>>81565681
Enough to go crazy. Would you still call him Superman?
>>81565681
Still not enough
>>81565527
Who's run is this?
>>81562296
>One of the funniest things I've heard him say is that Superman devalues him as a person.
This explains so much about Superman haters. They're such terrible people that they take their insecurities out on a fictional character for daring to be a better person than them.
>>81565968
It's why they so easily identify with Lex
>>81554568
>>81554582
>>81549711
>>81560951
Based Snyder, amirite?:^)
>>81556693
Did he just punch him so hard that Brainiacs 1-5 felt it?
>>81553880
i never actually noticed he was sitting on a cloud until i heard Grant talk about that cover
>>81556466
>Superman was never real
>He was just the dream of a farmer from Kansas
How about you watch the fucking movie since that was repeatedly said to be the case.
>>81563591
And once again I'm reminded that Mr Miracle is one lucky man
>>81563591
Top kek
>>81548921
clark is autistic
>>81554464
Show don't tell.
>>81562296
When people dislike a character for being too good it gives you some sort of indication of the kind of people they truly are.
>>81560996
Well they weren't "American"
>>81559500
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eZ0XIaJB3M
>>81566119
Then he kills Clark Kent
>>81560996
He had a pretty nuanced view, given the time.
>>81562347
Not enough suicide bomber cripples
>>81560377
The issue is basically Landis criticizing Joker character trough Superman mouth, and turns Superman in some kind of Daredarvil like character, that is okay with murderous psychotic killers being free as long as they are not on his city.
>>81563735
>>81563777
The closest we ever got was World of Metropolis, back in 1988.
>>81554464
>He literally said afterwords 'I didn't kill those men."
"Those men" aren't "That man".
And regardless, why should I trust what he says?
>>81563591
NTK is the shit. Though I prefer the main series to black label. I'm kinda behind on it though, my girlfriend says it's been pretty weak lately.
>>81566119
Yeah, dialogue says one thing. Visuals and plot railroading say another.
>>81561849
Honestly, I don't have a problem with that. I quite like the idea that Superman has to go against the morality of his parents. Turns him from a metaphorical Ubermensch to a literal one.
>>81560360
The problem is that Landis had Superman get all meta on the Joker, but Joker wasn't allowed to do the same to Superman. Stuff like how due to comic-book restrictions there will always be an excuse to why Superman doesn't -actually- make the world better, and how even if Joker almost objectively deserves to be killed, Superman can't do it without going full alien tyrant.
How do I go about reading everything Post-Crisis Superman before Nu52 that includes him and all the rest of the Super family. Any really good chronology websites that compile trades and whatnot?
>>81562339
God damnit you're dumb. Superman is still Superman, he's just in a world that won't bend itself around him the way >>81559148 does.
>>81567219
I don't have any rec lists, but other anon's will probably post some. Or try the comrade recs tumblr. From there just try torrenting them or something.
>>81567140
How about the ONLY time Clark is happy is when he's spending time with Lois in a pretty much entirely human way.
It's not a smart movie, it shouldn't be hard to pick up on stuff like this.
>>81567246
Comics back then were fucking hilarious.
>>81558550
clark would literally never be a yankees fan as much as i really like jl8 i wish he actually knew shit so we could get little references like a royals or a meteors poster instead of yankees
>>81559591
>filename
never gets old
>>81560288
so he isnt superman
>>81561338
I don't see why he cant be a symbol for both. personally, my favorite part of the character is the dualities ya know. I mean to him and those close to him he's just some farmboy from kansas who happens to be able to do this and that but to everyone else he's a god ya know? that's just rad. so in short, I don't see any reason why superman cant mean whatever we need him to mean, i.e. an unwavering friend ready to listen or even a champion of the sun for us to become
>>81561529
by saving the damned, anon.
>>81550476
Sauce?
>>81561849
i liked it. the way i took it is help them because you want to, bc ur superman, not bc youre obligated to do it. she was telling her son to be who he wants and to be happy. too bad he'll never be happy in those movies
>>81562296
i genuinely dont understand how people are content being Luthor
It's fucked up how a "Things that Snyder will never have Superman do" has so much overlap with a "Superman Appreciation Thread"
>>81563209
I'd post the "pretending to be retarded" pic but theres no real point. why did they deliberately have bad art?
>>81567385
It's hard to buy into the whole "Superman shouldn't be seen as god he doesn't want that" when he's descending from the heavens in a beam of light with lens flare behind him in slow motion like and angel and dies the same day as Christ.
It doesn't matter if Clark goes "I'm not a god I'm just a man" when
1. He only ever says it to one person despite having plenty of platforms to say it to people all over the world
2. The movie is going to ignore it and frame him as god anyway.
>>81563066
im sure batman does somewhere in that cave
>>81567178
Was this a retelling of one of his first stories, where Superman's solution for substandard living was to destroy it all and have the government pay for it to be rebuilt with the natural disaster fund?
>>81551270
But in Snyder's world the saved cat starts a cat epidemy or Superman destroys the tree
>Like, if you’re just taking a cat out of a tree, you can’t touch anything or the arborists will say, ‘He damaged the tree branch when he got the cat down.’ Or, ‘The cat wasn’t neutered, so now there’s thousands of cats.’ There’s no winning anymore for Superman.”
>>81562907
>Men made a world where standing together is impossible
>>81560360
One of my friends said once that they could put out a comic of Joker taking a dump and casuals would love it. He wasn't wrong.
>>81549166
>Superman kills one guy who had murdered thousands of people and was trying to kill everything on earth
>"Man of Murderrrr hurr dee durr."
Clark did nothing wrong
>>81571698
It would take a creative writer, but I could see that being a pretty funny story. The toilet has been taken out of his cell due to some previous escape. The pressure builds, he starts to yo-yo, and the guards aren't buying it, due to all those escapes. The issue is him working his way through Arkham's defenses and beating guards so he can get to a toilet and take a shit.
>>81571937
And we live in an age where nobody will make a comic like this because the Joker has to be scary and cutting his own face off.
Fuck you for reminding me of nice things and why we can't have them.
>>81551465
They took that from n52. I like the idea that only his cape is Kryptonian.
>>81551358
WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME!?
>>81551746
Not that anon but there's a lot of thematic weight to the costume being made on earth that alien costumes lose.
>>81561849
I didn't like Pa's portrayal in MoS, but I liked Ma Kent in BvS.
Clark literally saved the entire world, and is essentially dedicating his life to helping people...and he's just constantly getting shit on for it.
Ma's point was you don't have to be Superman if you don't want to...you can just live a normal life. He doesn't owe the world anything, but he helps people because he feels its right. That's Superman.
>>81570750
Why should the damned be saved? They should earn it not given it while the innocent suffer.
>>81550671
See? I keep saying any fight between Superman and Batman, a nanosecond after it starts, a 100 mile circle of the Earth's crust starts melting around Batman.
>>81562296
Isn't this literally Luthor: Man of Steel?
>>81572409
No. Fuck off. To steal from another series; with great power, comes great responsibility. The reason Superman feels an urge to save people, to help people, is because he is human. For him to retire to Kansas and live his life farming wouldn't be human, wouldn't be 'ordinary', it would be alien and unfeeling.
Superman can't live a normal life; if he can, he isn't Superman.
>>81572735
because none should suffer, anon, dont you see
>>81573490
It's like, half of Luthor's incarnations. You know, it's kind of funny. I've always felt that if Green Arrow and Batman just told Luthor who thy are, maybe he'd see how silly he's being. "Damn that super man. He's taking credit for saving humanity when it should be MY accomplishments they acknowledge!'
"Just do what all the other rich assholes and do it better than him."
"What?"
>"Seriously pham, We're pretty much all doing it. You're just really behind the curve."
>>81571134
No? The movie said that the people thinking Superman is a god are a bunch of deranged projecting morons. Like on the news thing "Maybe he's just a guy trying to do the right thing", Lex Luthor and Batman's faggotry of deep down blaming him for not solving their problems, Batman only being inspired to stop being such a shit after he realizes that Superman is only a man "men are still good" again, it is not that complex.
>>81573802
>The movie said that the people thinking Superman is a god are a bunch of deranged projecting morons.
Yes. It SAYS that. And then it SHOWS Superman as a god figure that sacrifices himself and redeems the wayward.
>>81563591
Where is a drawfag when you need one?
>>81571171
Nah, total retcon, which is unfortunate because if Batman were a legit deputy to the Gotham PD, that would be pretty good. He's not even really a vigilante he just makes grandiose citizens arrests, so why not just make it official?
>My earliest superhero memory that I can summon up with any clarity was watching the Richard Donner Superman with my dad, and there’s this amazing shot after Pa Kent dies. It’s Clark standing in a wheat field with Ma Kent talking about how it's time for him to go, to be Superman. My dad, in a not-infrequent moment of poignancy says "People say it’s the yellow sun, but if you want to know where Superman really gets his power, it’s those fields."
>>81555124
You've never seen the last episode of "Johnny Sokko and His Flying Robot", have you?
Watchmen is one of the most popular comics of the current age. Batman returns is as well. People like darker gritter heroes with moral failings now. Get used to it
>>81577794
Character like Batman and the Watchmen are made for dark and gritty stories. Superman is not. The MOS and BVS reviews reflect that.
>>81577794
And thats why I say batman should be in his own universe. That way, he can still do his dark gritty stuff without affecting everybody else
no more superman doesnt know how to use his powers unless batman tells him how to
no more an ordinary human just like me XDD beats the justice league because muh human will
no more nerfing everybody else the moment batman becomes visible
Superman being hype as fuck.
Almost forgot I had this.
>>81549166
Forcing a character below where he's meant to be just so you can de-construct him is asinine and you should be ashamed that you believe that it's ok as a writing method.
>>81563591
Someone post that page of PG talking to Wonder Woman about "tentacles" and "manga monsters"
One of the truly things that really bugged me about MoS and BvS is how wrong they get Superman. To the point that it near makes me furious when thinking about it.
First you have a Ma and Pa Kent who are kinda douchebags. Giving a young Clark with a super complex about being Superman. In the comics you think he was better off being raised by the Kents but in the movies you wish that Jor-El would have built a bigger ship and went with him to earth and raised him as Kal-El
Superman being Clark Kent in the Syder films is fucking pointless. Superman is Clark because he celebrates humanity but due to the Crappy Kent's he questions if humanity should be saved in the first place
On top of that you have a Superman who does not even like being Superman. Saving people is more of a chore to Superman in the Snyder films
It could like having a kid that excelled in school or sports and their parents go "You know what perhaps you should be a garbageman, no one likes a smarty pants"
I just feel the Snyder films get Superman wrong on so many levels to the point of its not Superman to me
>>81561816
anybody got those /co/ku comics?
>>81563039
Of all the heroes to be pro-gay marriage, I think this one is the least surprising. That line just hangs there, stupid and obviously written in there for her to get preachy next panel.
>>81562797
I like how the kid is blatantly staring at her tits in the last panel.
>>81582168
Superman will survive crappy movies. Batman lived through Joel Shimacher's travesties. Just wait it out.
>>81584948
Wouldn't you?
>>81556544
>You can do anything you want, but all you want to do is help people.
This is why he's Superman. Fuck you Snyder.
>mfw watching BVS
>>81565527
Just thinking about what we could get in BvS make me cry. Fuck you Snyder.
>>81587788
Why does Superman look like an elderly asian woman in the second panel?
>>81587883
Even kryptonians age
>>81554410
So much this
>>81554410
Damn son, you could write a great paper from that
>>81548729
>It´s going to be okey, Tony.
>>81563039
Is this also the mansplaining series?
>>81590355
>She never came around to believing that Clark and Superman were one and the same
>it's implied that everyone else in the Daily Planet does in fact know and just humour Clark.
Loved it.
>>81589249
I love how the moment the real Superman shows up in the Injustice universe, he defeats most of Injustice Superman's forces in mere minutes before defeating the madman himself.
>>81587846
I miss pre flashpoint kryto. He was a real dog not some alien dog like stuff. Hopefully it is slowly retcon back to a normal dog.
>>81561567
Apparently, this is the same guy who wrote Big Fish that the Burton film was based on.
I like the cut of his jib.
>>81580859
>>81592122
What comic does that happen?
>>81553935
Chad better keep a grip on that bike, because Tyrone back there behind him is looking a mite bit sneaky.
>>81592611
>wonder woman doesn't know about hentai
Great Hera!
>>81592140
Did he have any good stories? I've only seen him from his cartoon show (which was good 2bh)
>>81592611
Man I wish Power Girl was given a little more attention. I always liked her more mature attitude as opposed to Supergirl.
>>81580859
I wonder if there's a manga of Wonder Woman and pg being fucked by tentacles monsters.
>>81592611
The games plot has Nu52 Supes beating Injustice Supes
>>81593774
Might have to watch it on youtube. Is the Injustice still going?
>>81594065
The comic is now nothing but filler shit, but the first 3 years are great.
>>81594164
It's getting some stuff done. With turning Damien into Nightwing and Supes finally killing civilians, it looks like year 5 might be picking up, albeit slowly. Year 4 was basically all filler shit with the Olympians though.
>>81594386
But I suppose Year 4 gave us that awesome Plastic Man story.
>>81592611
Are there any other solid Power Girl runs outside of the Jimmy Palmiotti and Justin Gray books?
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