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Yobit letting people trade lisk before it is even released and price skyrocketed

https://yobit.net/en/trade/LISK/BTC?bonus=dmppl
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>>1179290
https://blog.lisk.io/official-statement-on-yobit-lisk-iou-token-trading-cca8e7e52a72#.ut96ejlm0
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what's the current price? page is down, I have 1k lisk, hope it goes moon
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>>1179290
nice
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>>1179290
yeah but you cant deposit the lisk you have already :(
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You can't deposit lisk and the price is crazy high.

If I had lisk id make a contract on bitcoin talk to sell at the current high price using a very trusted escrow.

I am sure the price will drop only way to profit from this wish they had a way to short it
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>>1179290
How much did this shit cost at pre-sale?

Can i still get it?
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>>1179290
Oh wow yet another memecoin
It seems its a good way of making money, release new a new memecoin every week or so and let faggots buy it
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>>1179512
ended at 0.075 usd
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>>1179528
why are you so negative
even if it is a pump and dump, there is no reason not to make money out of it
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>>1179290
brb, mining lisk
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I spent 10 btc on the ico and if i sold on yobit now i have over 270 bitcoin lol! This cant be real can it?
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>>1179546
I think it's yobit selling their own stake, not sure that you can sell right now
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They are selling IOUs read the lisk blog link that was posted. That being said I hope the price remains. :)
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I can't believe how high these IOUs are going for yobit is on to something
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Anyone actually buying into this?
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>>1179588
I don't think it is a good idea to buy them thinking there a long term value.
but to do quick trades riding these waves very good idea
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It's a clever way for Yobit to scoop up BTC and ETH with tangible over the counter value for something that is right now worthless.

Same impression I got with the ICO.
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it's up 50 fold from the ICO sale crazy who is putting this much bitcoin in
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what color lambo should I get familia
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>>1179628
yellow
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about to hit 0.01btc each
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>>1179628
Team azure blue lambo, bcause lisk is blue
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>Lisk trading at $4
>Ethereum trading at $10
WTF is happening, seriously. How rich we gona be? lol
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>tfw I partcipate in the ico with 1 btc
So far it rise to 45 btc.
I made it bros. who's happy for me
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>>1179717
to bad the IOU lisk is not real and the dump is starting
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>>1179720
lel still well above the ico price
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>>1179722
you are going to make a lot don't get me wrong just not 45 btc.
just don't set your hopes to high
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we made it boys
i only put 0.1 bitcoin in too...
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>>1179727
IMO we settle about 002/003, which is $1 lisk
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Hope this is real and it ends well priced when it lands on Polo

I also hope the team doesn't just decide to adjust the ammount of Lisk we receive according to the 4 bux price
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feels like winning the lottery desu
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>>1179290
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Can someone explain what exactly is going on here?
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>>1179817

LISK is a new coin

there was an pre-sale a few weeks ago but the coins havent been released yet

some exchange is selling IOU coins for when the coins come out and the price is going crazy
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>>1179827
So I should buy these lisk coins now or no?
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>>1179835
no dude. the ico price is like 7 cent for one.
Now it's like floating $2.5 to $1.5 for one
Wait a few weeks after the coin launches if you still want it. It'll get dump to death. You miss the boat.
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>scrambling to buy IOU tokens that represent a subpar ethereum clone currency

LOL
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>>1179817
nothing really. It's a shilling thread like there used to be for ethereum.
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it did not plummet like I expected they want to ride this out.
Or maybe they really do have the lisk to back it up
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>>1179871
jesus fuck man shilling or not that's 50x gains, are you guys fucking blind to this?

Like seriously if people like you exist it always reminds me and reaffirms my belief I have a chance at life to climb over this pyramid capitalist life..
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>>1179817
Nothing is going on. It's all bullshit and lies.

Criminals. Doing criminal shit, and you're the mark.
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Now it is just slow dumping think it's over the 30 btc sale at the top really murdered it
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>mfw current price is 0.01399998 BTC per LISK

I literally can buy a new house if that's the price after release. Too bad it wont happen though, best I see is LISK will max at $1/0.004 BTC and then goes downhill from there.
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>>1180282
I agree, no way this will reach ethereum so I'll try to sell now, with a price of $5.7 I'm rich too
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Wait how the fuck is so much IOU money being moved around? Will the exchange have to cover everyones IOU? or do they really expect people to pay up the LISK once it releases?

To me they are basically putting value on a blank promise
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What the fuck?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/lisk/#charts
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Ok so now i'm a little bit concerned...
How much money do i need to maintain a Lamborghini?
taxes, insurance, gas and stuff.
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Could someone explain how would anyone obtain Yobit's LISK IOU?
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>>1180329
You can buy it ("Yobit's LISK IOU") on Yobit but i don't recommend it.
You should wait until official launch of Lisk (end of April)
I already have enough money to buy a Lamborhini now.
http://www.agriaffaires.co.uk/used/farm-tractor/7003891/lamborghini-r-754.html

I'll get so many bitches with this
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>>1180330
I don't really want to buy it, I just want to understand how the Yobit exchange functions when trading something that doesn't exist yet. How can someone list a sell or a buy order for something that they don't have? Are the sellers in debt to Yobit? Or is it that people bought some of LISK IOU for a fixed price before the exchange started and then started trading?
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>>1180298
>Will the exchange have to cover everyones IOU?
yes, that's the idea. they're selling their stake
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>>1180332
>How can someone list a sell or a buy order for something that they don't have? Are the sellers in debt to Yobit?

yobit is "in debt" to the holder of the IOU
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>>1179867
The chinese have discovered Lisk and are going to pump it like mad, we all made the best investment of our lives here
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>>1180367
>I want to believe
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>>1180372
YoBit is a chinese exchange.

There is by the way now also another exchange that has listed LISK

https://bloombit.net/news
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>>1180374
They have a monopoly on this price since they aren't accepting deposits

Once lisk gets released we'll be trading it at 1 dollar at most

I wish they were accepting deposits
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How the hell do i sell my lisk? I bought 200 at the ico, and want to sell it before it crashes hard.

Can i deposit my lisk on yobit, or do they only accept purchases from their website?
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>>1180533
try bloombit
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>>1180533
the yobit lisk is just IOUs not actual lisk
you cant deposit or sell the real lisk yet
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Actual price will end up around .004/.005
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>>1180533
Create your own exchange
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>>1180533
>>1180555
>>1180556
>>1180575

How do I set up my wallet so I can get in on the initial skyrocket?
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>>1180598
you don't
wait until it's on cex.io or polo if you're going wait
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>>1180572
It's already trading at .02 why would anyone sell for less?
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>>1180598
go to the lisk official website and read
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ill sell my lisk for .006 per lisk i have 10k lisk email me at bnp567@hotmail
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>>1179538
how would one mine Lisk?
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What do you guys expect will happen when lisk actually releases on the 11th?

I mean, if people are willing to buy in now at 8 bucks even before the actual release, wont pretty much the same thing happen once it hits the major exchanges?
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>>1180647
Do you accept PayPal?
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>>1180671
ya ill take paypal
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>>1180671
lisk accounts are recoverable unless you get his email to.

don't get scammed
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>>1180615
right now there's an artificially limited supply
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>>1180710
Thanks for the warning but i already know that.
PayPal money is also recoverable, So i know what i'm doing ;)
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>>1180660

I highly doubt it will go up that high initially, yobit is probably buying a lot of their own IOU's to boost their reputation. This is a PR stunt.
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>>1180358
But how did they obtain the IOU in the first place? Sorry if I sound retarded.
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>>1180813

The buyer got it from yobit.

Yobit holds a certain amount of Lisk that they bought into in the presale.

So I buy one IOU, yobit sends me a lisk April 11th

This is a PR stunt, but also a gauge to see what the community thinks of this coin's potential. Javascript is nothing to laugh at, it is very practical even if it is dated. It can open pathways for more buyers of all types of cryptos.
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this was highest peek of today. (or close to it)
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>>1180859
Damn this thing just murdered the shit out of Eth.
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>>1180861
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>>1180859

Holy shit yobit has at least 780 BTC worth of lisk just for sale? How much more is in private stock? How big will this thing get?
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>>1180872
780 btc volume does not even close to mean 780 btc worth for sale by them you can buy and sell the same coins over and over and over
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>>1180859

it's impossible that it will stay at this price. everyone will be rushing to sell as soon as it's released.

r-right??
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>>1180872
eth had like 6k volume at this point. so u better suck up all that lisk ;)
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Ethercoin IOU prices:

July 5 = 0.0052

July 12 = 0.0081

July 19 = 0.0073

July 26 = 0.0106

July 30 = Ethereum Mainnet Launch
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>>1180332
It's basically a side bet on the price of the coin.
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>>1180922

Eth also went down during the lisk IOU's

This is literally the eth-killer
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So all of this is just a complete fantasy?

No one can actually sell their .. what? IOUs? WHAT. A. JOKE. Beware.

This is nothing but a house of cards, and anyone that bought this is a fool.
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>>1180982
unless you bought at the start of pump and sold at top and took 15-20x profits
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>>1180993
Sold how? Sold to who? You mean like in some shady private email deal?

Straight answer: is it possible to sell Lsk at all on any exchange?
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>>1180998
>Straight answer: is it possible to sell Lsk at all on any exchange?

obviously not you fucking idiot. learn how this shit works before getting involved and annoying people.
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>>1180998
he means IOUs
buy when then IOU trade starts, then sell at the peak
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>>1180998
you could have turned 1 btc into 15 easy trading the IOUs on yobit.
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>>1180998
And sold what? An IOU? So, what, yobit's gonna cover all these 'bets'. Who's regulating them to make sure they pay? Where's the money going to come from? What if they just fold up and say 'see you, suckers!' You guys going to sue? How can this company possibly pay all these IOUs, at even a small increase?

Protip, they can't and they won't.
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>>1181006
You just withdraw the btc why is this so hard to understand lol.

protip you can and I did
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>>1181006

Doesn't matter, buy at start of IOU trading, sell at end and walk away with 15x the bitcoin you put in

Are you dumb? Are you having problems? This is an unregulated market, the only thing that matters is the BTC in your account at the end of the day
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>>1181005
Yeah could'a should'a would'a. But who actually made any real money whatsoever. NO ONE here I'll tell you that.

>>1180999
No need to get offended. I'm just saying this shit looks like straight up criminal, illegitimate, scamming to me. Sorry if that annoys you.
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>>1181006
think before you post
money is paper
the IOUs have value because people agree that they have value
and noone said "they bought IOUs to trade them into real LISK once it hits the exchanges"
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>>1181014
not with that attitude
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>>1181010
I don't believe a word you say. Why don't you prove it.
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>>1181006

are you slow m8

yobit sold their IOUs, which are promises for the coins that they bought in the ICO.
now people are trading the IOUs. when the coins are released the people holdin the IOUs will get their coins.
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>>1181020
i'm just going to assume that you are either <18 or just very stupid
no one would use an exchange if you could not withdraw your money
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>>1181006
>Update
hence sidebet, faggot
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People are actually selling their passphrase for their lisk in twitter.
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>>1181033
are they selling at these yobit prices ??

I kind of need the email that I used but if I can make tens of thousands then it might be worth the hassle
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>>1181023
Yeah, I get it, the ones holding the ba^H^H^H the IOUs are going to get something completely worthless.

There's two kinds of people in this thread, scammers and marks. There's plenty of overlap, of course, just like always. I may not know everything about it, but I know enough to take all you assholes on. Come at me, ye scurvy dogs! You crooks, spammers, and scammers. It's not a victimless crime, any money made has to come from somewhere.
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>>1181038
trading and making money is a crime now? you some kind of commie?
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>>1181038
the people who hold the IOUs at the end have to take it up with yobit to trade them 1:1 with lisk.
If they do there is no crime.
Just because some people buy it and then it drops does not mean it is a crime.
You need to do research and make an informed decision
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>>1181043

It's a crime since dumb people are allowed to trade and lose money.

Don't you get it? If someone can lose money doing something, it should be illegal. The stock market rewards intelligence and it should be banned, it's racist. Stop shoving your white privilege in my face, pig.
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>>1181051
if its illegal for stupid people to do things that harm themselves, why can't we just make it illegal for them to live?
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So I missed the ICO and won't get on this IOU. What´s going to be the launch price and what do you expect to go up before everyone dumps. Did I miss the boat already?
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>>1181048
Yeah I'm still waiting for proof that you made 15BTC out of 1. It's the lying, manipulating and conning that's the crime. I've seen too many shills on here use every tactic, above and below the belt , to perpetuate their fraud. Playing on people's fears, insecurities, self doubt, and yes greed. Anything, any deception, any button that can be pushed to get the next guy to buy.

Liars and thieves. Anyone participating in it should be in jail. That's my stance. Beware. Don't believe a word you read from shills, or anyone playing along with them for whatever reason.
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>>1181051
>Don't you get it? If someone can lose money doing something, it should be illegal.

HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA


Grow the fuck up anon, 2016 shit is great!


Gambling, Whores, Food, Games, Clubs, Bars, Movies....... you theoretically could loose all your fucking money on any activity.

so make it all illegal? Quit being autistic and learn how to play the game.
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Predators, preying on people's weakness. Working together, in a pack, just like your redditt group namesake. I have no sympathy, and I give no quarter, and I pull no punches when it comes to this shit.
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>>1181061

Why is it illegal to advertise something? Were you burned?

Why is it impossible to believe that I put in 1.26 BTC and got out 19.1 BTC? Do I need to screenshot it? I didn't take any because I'm more concerned about multiplying BTC.

>>1181069

I see you are memeing, my bad
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>>1181060
nobody knows right now.

realistically lisk shouldn't be worth as much as eth but he IOUs are approaching it.

if it hits the exchanges at even half of what it's at right now I'll be a very happy man
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>>1181072
Just expressing my feelings, that's all.

I never bought into any of it, so I never had anything to lose, unlike those who have bought into it. I don't believe you because you are a liar, it's simple. Whether or not you're telling the truth in this instance, if you're shilling in any form, then you've lied, and you will lie again.
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>>1181069
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>>1179935
People like that will always be skeptic no matter what happen, even if you buy some new coin today and tomorrow the price jump 100 times, those idiot will still be like "CAW CAW CAW LOLOL ENJOY BUBBLE SOON HAHAHAHA! CAW CAW CAW "

Just ignore them :)
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>>1179290

General

>>1181082


>>1181080

Feel free to come to the general and see what we are about. Sorry you have such strong feelings, I guess when I was advocating to buy bitcoin when it was $6 I was preying on them.
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>>1181090
Nah I have to get on with my day now. I've wasted enough time for now. Carry on with your lambos and whatever.
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>>1181080
You are beyond stupid.

Can you at least read some info about the topic before starting to argue about it?
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>>1181097

I'll screenshot this for you and post it everyday as the general image. 7.5 cents buy in, $20 sell off in 20 days.
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gonna be hilarious to see you guys lose everything when this thing is actually tradable ;)
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>>1181109
This thread is becoming hilarious.
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>>1181109
>>1181121
You do realize the ico price was 7cent per lisk right?
Everyone who participate in the ico is guarantee a profit already. Everyone knows it's going to get dump but at this rate it'll definitely be higher than 7 cent per lisk
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>>1181133
Of course i know it
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Too late to get on LISK? Has the train left the station?
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>>1181175
Yep!
You can jump in at the official launch tho but don't do it now with those stupid IOUs
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>>1181198
anyone know what's driving up prices?
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>>1181269
Actually they are not going up.
They were going up while there was only 1 exchange that had monopoly over Lisk price.
But then came the second exchange that also listed Lisk (BloomBit) and Lisk price has stayed pretty much the the same on it from the beginning.
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How rich are we gonna be bros? Is this for real? Still can't believe what I'm seeing.
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At first I regret spending 5 ETH to buy 888 LISK because I got 1000 free LISK from the faucet.

Then I realised that the faucet LISK isn't real.

And now I see this shit.

Well, time to buy that used miata to kick start that hobby I guess.
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>>1181329
>tfw 5000 LISK

I'm not getting my hopes up. if it stays above $1 when it hits the exchanges for real I'll be happy
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>>1181329
good stuff
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>>1181329
Or hold 6 months and get a used RX-7 instead
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>>1181359
$1 was only a question before yobit
Right now every ethereum holder (with of thousands of extra BTC on hand), every chinaman, every altcoin, bitcoin... their heads have turned to Lisk after what they have seen today.
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>>1181469
tens of thousands of extra BTC*
the ethereum launch made a lot of millionaires who know how fast these things can rocket.
smart money is putting 5-10 % into Lisk at min
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>>1179290
That gemstone looks kinda lame though lets be honest, its like the name monero
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>>1181484
Looks like a runescape item, to much nostalgia
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>>1181487
that's why it appeals perfectly to the neckbeard crypto trader demographic

this could be a hit
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We still have 3 weeks till launch.
Anything can happen in that time
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I thought it would dump harder by now
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>tfw 15000 lisk are stuck on my laptop that just died
>tfw it has an msata ssd and i gotta get my hands on an adaptor and pray to god the ssd is still good
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>>1181996
Hi, I am lisk staff,
Please contact lisk support and supply necessary information such as email and password.
We will reset the passphrases for you.
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>>1181996
Dude! Always have a backup of your important files on multiple devices
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BloomBit is under a heavy DDOS attack.
I wonder who might be behind it...
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Mobile Wallet released. Get yours from Google Play Store for android
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>>1182062
theres still a chance i can get my passphrase off my ssd, would it be a problem if i only validate my passphrases in a week? or is the next couple of days my last chance or something?

>>1182063
i know i was about to, literally happened the same day i meant to do it
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>LISK crashed but is now back up to nearly $10

is this real life
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>>1182123
no hurry. Validating passphrases is optional anyway.
>>1182162
the crash was because of the stupid Bloombit exchange that sold lisk cheaper than YoBit.
But now BloomBit site is down and Yobit is again the only place that sells it.
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went to sleep wake up and it's back to 0.022 wtf is up with this
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>>1182176
so when bloombit comes back the price should go down again
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>>1182223
It depends if people will trust and use BloomBit after this.
Many people will try to withdraw their btc out of that exchange as soon as it goes back up online again.
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So is this price real at all? Why wouldn't most of these early investors just buy in at the ico for $.07
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>>1182263

Stupidity mixed with greed

I expect $1 for lisk at open with a dip then a rise to $2-4
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>>1182263
That is the real price as its what some people are actually paying there for lisk (or lisk IOU) at the moment.
But the reason why they are paying so much is because there is a very small ammount of LISK avaible for sale at the moment. So the demand is bigger than the suply (which is only 1 exchange at the moment = YoBit).
Once the Lisk launches officially there will be much more LISK for sale everywhere so the prices won't stay as high as right now... But they will definitely still be high compared to ICO prices
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>>1182267
Why would you expect a $1 dollar open when people are trading IOU's for >8 dollars?
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>>1182323

Why would you expect this to not be heavily manipulated and for the mainnet launch to have a similar performance as eth?

We can agree to disagree, as we will both profit either way. All I'm saying is to not call that lambo dealership yet.
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>>1182323
Cause if it was $8 dollars on launch would you sell your lisk on the first day. I would. And i think 90% of others would too cause thats a huge profit from $0.075 ICO price. Over 100x profit.

If everyone sells their Lisk at the same time what would happe? tell me.
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>>1182335
>>1182325
>>1182323

I'd like to state that the most effective and intelligent way for lisk management to avoid a huge dump at start is to start advertising as much as they can, everywhere they can. Come up with a definitive date and hype it, get some famous people to promote it.
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Time to place the calls with the lamborghini dealership bros.
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>>1182107
is that legit?
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>>1182364
No you will get scammed
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>>1182335
But then that wouldn't be a $1 open then would it?
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>>1182346
wanka stop talking about your lambo dealer not stop im sure your the same guy from yobit
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>>1182263
they missed the ico and are now trying to get on the hypetrain

desu I have a feeling people trading IOUs are going to make more than the people who actually sell LISK but I hope I'm wrong
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>>1182469
i am thinking about making Etheleliskium coin, its just sound even better and may have better outcome then these two :d
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>>1181473
millionaires? the fucking total trade sum of lisk is $160k


inbf making $10 is the new era millionaire.
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>>1180982
>>1180998
>>1181006
>>1181014
>>1181020
>>1181038
>>1181061
>>1181069
>>1181080
>>1181097
You are the most retarded human being I've seen on the interwebs, congrats.

Nope I didn't bought any Lisk.

But you are an ignorant piece of shit, with 0 interest and knowledge in the topic you are talking about, stop "wasting your time" wasting ours, gtfo or at least think (maybe I'm asking for something impossible) and read before giving your worthless opinion.

>inb4 IOU lisk bagholder
Wrong.
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>>1182599
And yes, Yobit move is disgusting, and the guys trading there are risking too much in a platform that don't seem trustworthy to me.
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>>1182599

Don't you get it

Advertising should be illegal, you are never allowed to promote or raise awareness to a currency

Lisk uses javascript which will not bring an influx of coders into the DAPP scene, it will be a shitcoin that will never make ANYONE money, no, not you who bought into the ICO, no, not you who traded IOU's and cashed out, and especially not those who are waiting to buy the dip at launch and sell in a month.

YOU CAN NOT GET MONEY FROM CRYPTOS ITS ALL FAKE, FUCK OFF SHILLS
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>>1182658
This is a b8 r8?
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>>1182658

>YOU CAN NOT GET MONEY FROM CRYPTOS ITS ALL FAKE, FUCK OFF SHILLS

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>>1182599
Gentlemen, this is the response of someone who doesn't have an actual response. Take note of how the poster really doesn't have anything to say, except for insults.

Now, to be fair, there's a good chance the poster is a teenager, and we should take that in account. Not saying they are, just that they are acting that way currently.

Other than that, since the poster didn't really say anything, I don't have any more to add.
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>>1182658
found the cuck
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mods there are people getting money
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>>1182658
You know damn well that shilling is not the same as advertising. That is one of the flimsiest justifications for unscrupulous behavior I've seen. Shilling is deception, straight up. By hook or crook, make the next guy buy. Fuck the truth, fuck principles, say anything you can to manipulate people to buy. That's what shilling is.

The rest of your post is just an example of what I'm talking about.
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Thought I'd prep Lisk bros for what its like to own a lambo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY54kb0MXnw
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>>1182497
If the current price holds I stand to make 6 grand. Not too shabby if you ask me
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>>1182698
Do you actually believe what you said?

I insulted you cause your opinion deserve no respect, added what I think of the current situation on the very next comment, and you didn't make consistent point with any basis to discuss about.

Ad hominem are fallacies when there are arguments in the first place to focus on, you seem to misunderstand every concept you are talking about based on your own comments. You admit you are expressing feelings. You end absolute statements with questions about the nature of things you are giving your absolute opinion about. You are a joke.

There is no real discussion to have with you, besides mocking your low intellect and big ego, which David Dunning and Justin Kruger proved to be closely tied.
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>>1179512
presale is over (ended April 4, iirc).

there will be extremely limited opportunity to mine, as well. You're better off just mining ethereum and hoping you have a decent (if relatively small) market share when they transition from proof-of-work to proof-of-stake.
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>>1179567
This. yobit probably bought a stake, but no guarantee you're going to be able to cash out your stake if you were part of the ICO.

I imagine there will be a lot of people looking to cash out right away, which means most people will not be able to get nearly as much as it's worth right now.
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>>1182722
What does 'absolute opinion' mean? I am giving my opinion, and that's all it is. Disclaimer: the opinions expressed in my posts are my opinions, and are not necessarily the absolute truth.There you go.

Also, I don't need to know everything about a topic to express an opinion about it. The one thing though, that you and most others to try and attack me do, is tiptoe and skirt around the truth in what I am saying, and I know that, whether or not there are some errors, there is a WHOLE lot of truth in my posts.

Personal attacks aside, that's what I am waiting for.
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>>1179844
he missed the initial boat; that doesn't mean he can't catch the small rally after lisk gets dumped by 99.99999% of the ICO owners.

Seriously, yobit's value is just going to go from what it is now to essentially nothing over the course of a few seconds when the coin goes live. Then, yobit will be a significant owner in the coin, and as long as people are making more money than they spent in the ICO, they're gonna keep dumping.
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>>1182427
>>1182427
>>1182427
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>>1182738
yes people make money off of crypto currency speculation. If prices remain, (which multiple people have stated ITT that they probably won't) a lot of people will make a lot of money off of this.

Alternatively, chaos might arise from lisk rejecting the youbit ICO exchange, and alot of people could lose money from that. This is all speculation and as always

Never put in more money than you can afford to lose
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>>1182746
Why do we need a new thread?
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>>1182738
I meant conclusions in absolute terms about things you obviously don't understand.

Not gonna engage in this meta- discussion but how can you think shilling to be morally wrong, and proceed to fud without being certain?

Non native speaker tho, soz.
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>>1180657
You can't, unless you're chosen as a delegate. It's a proof-of-stake coin, which means basically they allow a select few (typically large) stakeholders mine the blockchain.

Information on how to become a delegate is here:
https://lisk.io/documentation?i=lisk-handbooks/DelegateHandbook#1-what-is-a-delegate-
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>>1182760
I understand it enough to have an opinion. I've been observing the phenomenon, and doing plenty of research on the side about it, for some time. Whether or not I have all the details right, I know the patterns. I've seen a lot of these come and go and I've witnessed the whole spectrum of slimy, dishonest behavior from crypto shills. Truly, the worst of them is on a level with nigerian 419ers in my opinion. Shills get no mercy from me.

Now not everyone is that deep into the scam side of it, I get that. Plus there's some overlap between the predators and the victims here. But you're participating in the 'speculation' then you are perpetuating a fraud. Because it's not really speculation, it's more aggressive than that.

>>1182748
And if everyone does make a lot of money, then where is that money going to come from? It's going to come from people. Little guys, like you. In many cases it is going to come from you. It's not victimless.
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>>1182767
Lisk delegates will get insane money.
Even if lisk price will crash to $1 delegates make 150,000 USD per delegate the first year.
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>>1182797
>And if everyone does make a lot of money, then where is that money going to come from? It's going to come from people. Little guys, like you. In many cases it is going to come from you. It's not victimless.

If a company makes lots of $ from selling videogame, then where is that money going to come from? It's going to come from people. Little guys, like you. In many cases it is going to come from you. It's not victimless.
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>>1182801
This explains why so many people are buying the presale on yobit. They're trying to be a major delegate and produce their own LISK. It's genius really
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>>1182810
>>1182801
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>>1182741
yobit isn't invested in LISK. they've already cashed out by selling the IOUs
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>>1182819
mfw the coin exchange is also betting on coins.. that haven't even been released yet.

Nothing sketchy about that. Nope.
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>>1182808
And not taking into account, the permanent cash flow that is being poured into crypto projects, let's be real the total market cap of all of this is laughable for the wealthy people out there, and yes, I guarantee you, there will be a smooth growth in the future years into cryptos, this didn't even started, what does it mean? Well it means that if you are the guy who is first diversifying, studying, not going fomo, not going crazy, it will be in risk/reward ratio one of the best investments someone can make today.

Microtrading? going into shady projects and exchanges? sure there will be plenty who will bleed there, but overall, if you are intelligent, there is not too much risk.

And the argument of not being victim-less is pretty irrelevant, we live in a capitalistic world, it is a form of investment as any other one, how can that even be a point?
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>>1182850
No, the scam is Pump and Dump. Read it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pump_and_dump

And until the issue of these coins being used as pump and dump frauds is addressed, I don't see then gaining any real legitimacy. Which is a shame, because I like cryptocurrency, I think it's cool as shit.

But shills are fucking it all up. Disclaimer: opinion.
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>>1182863
You probably were yourself a victim of a pump and dump and lost all your money and thats whyyou feel like that now
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>>1182863
it's a Wild West. you can make a lot of money or you can get killed. crypto gives people freedom to make their own choices but freedom comes with responsibility for your actions
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>>1181996

>didn't handwrite the passphrase like they tell you to

you deserve this fate
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>>1182870
The only real thing that pisses me off, is that if they were the ones who won money, they couldn't care less of the others losing money, but oh man if we lose, oooh pooor us we got scamed, look wikipedia sais I'm right, they are bad and they should feel bad.

What the fuck are people browsing biz for? other than fucking economic advice in hopes of wining money? sorry to burst your bubble, but earning money is inmoral, money is finite, ergo if you win means someone somewhere is a victim! wow guys how can you even sleep?!?!?!
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>>1183205
Yeah this. Daytrading is an intrinsically worthless profession.
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>>1182863
Stock market is shit, interest rates are low...people gotta park their cash somewhere!
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Another Cool thing about LISK is that you can earn money by Holding it.
I mean voting for delegates gets you money if the delegates that you voted will win.
And 101 delegates will win / will be chosen. So chances are high that a delegate that you voted will be one of those 101
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>>1183205
Why am I here? I don't know.. I guess it's part of my slow tour of 4chan's boards I been doing since.. 2006 or so. I sure as hell am not here to get any real advice, although there are one or two things I've read that seem ok.

What I am against is pump and dump scams, it's really pretty simple. None of the other statements here about trading, or earning money, or speculation apply to where I'm coming from. You guys want to trade your yu-gi-oh cards or whatever, man go for it.

But there's a deception going on here, and either you know that and you're doing it knowingly, or you don't know it, but your perpetuating it unknowingly.

Either way, I'm here to turn the light on the scene.
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>>1183476
How much money can we won?
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>>1183476
>>1183513

Read this
https://www.liskpool.com/
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>>1183476
How do I vote?
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>>1183536
>tfw you bought LISK thinking it was a memecoin but it's actually starting to look decent
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How much of a NEET must one be to be monitoring all these minuscule shitcoin movements and events? I'm happy for all of you that made money but please don't shill it here to your fellow /biz/nessmen like its something legit, we all know these things are pump n dumps, lets not deceive each other because that actually breaks my heart.

Long holder of ETH, the only real technology (not coin) worth investing in. Get even a little bit of it now, or start building your own applications on the Ethereum network. You'll be happy in a few months.
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>>1183536
>>1183571
This, that page doesn't have any info on how to vote.
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>>1183571
>>1183593
You can vote In your Lisk Client / Lisk Wallet.
But you can't vote yet. You have to wait till the launch.

(If you want you can test voting in the Testnet wallet to see how it is done before release of the Real one)
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>>1183609
>interactive voting wallet

new paradigm
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For how many delegates would I have to vote to get the most benefits? Are the top 101 gonna be the ones that actually secure the blockchain?
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>>1183720
>For how many delegates would I have to vote to get the most benefits?

The fewer the better

>Are the top 101 gonna be the ones that actually secure the blockchain?

Yes
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>>1183830
>>For how many delegates would I have to vote to get the most benefits?

>The fewer the better

How does that work then? Don't I get a cut from every voted delegate that is in the top 101?
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>>1183830
Does it means that if I choose correct delegate, I will get shares for the rest of my life?
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Damn I'd love to be Yobit's owner
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WTF IS LISK. take it from the start, all i know is bitcoin.
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>>1183830
>>1183841
There are 2 different ways how voting usually works.The situation is a) or b). But actually i am not sure which one of them it is with LISK.
I will need to ask devs about it to know if its a or b , before i start voting.

>a) Same voting weight applied to all selected delegates
-put your voting weight on as many different delegates as possible (Max=101).

>b) Voting weight is split between selected delegates.
-put all your voting weight on a specific delegate.

(Voting Weight = Voting Power)
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Do you guys think it would be a smart move to wait until Lisk is actually tradeable and then buy some right away?
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>>1184180
Hahahahaha!

Yeah! Totally! Smart!
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^^^

shills, this is what your shilling sounds like to me.
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how is LISK falling if you cant even sell it yet? More supply? or fuckery?
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>>1184206
Because lsk isn't worth anything yet. It's not on the market. What's being traded (as far as I can tell) are bets on what the value of lsk will be when it DOES start trading. Although when that that actual launch is happening is kind of hard to find. Maybe some of you shills can chime in here about that again.
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>>1184206
Its just that BloomBit has most of the Volume at the moment and people don't trust BloomBit as much as YoBit
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>>1183863
no, they can hypothetically get voted out
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It's good that lisk is not out yet.
Today red numbers on every altcoin.
We are lucky that Lisk has not launched in the middle of the altcoin meltdown.
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>>1185304
looks like polo is dying
maybe LISK will bring them back
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>>1185304
fuck me I had lots of SYS and maidsafe for long term investment, do you think the price will go back to normal in a day or two?
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>>1185304
The entire reason it's going down is because they are preparing their Bitcoin for the lisk storm
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>>1185311

eh, good riddance
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how long until the release?
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>>1184206
people seen the pump and buy in hoping it will go up more.
then it does not go up more and they cut there loses
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>>1186493
seconding this, when?
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>>1186493
>>1186602
End of April
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Has your price forecast changed after the rise and fall of yobit IOU prices? What are your expectations now?
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>>1187089
what is lisk even going to come to first?
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looks like the lisk train is over.
look at that price fall
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>>1187082
or early May 'at the latest'

Actually, they don't have any idea. Have you seen the devs?
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>>1187138
It's normal. Just getting rid of week hands.
Now week hands are gone and its stable again.

https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/lisk
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Oh wow it went back up again.
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>>1187288
>week
I swear its just a bunch of kids shilling this shit. You cryptotards have some of the most atrocious spelling and grammar.
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>>1187348
Kek.
*Weak hands
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Sup guys I've got 100,000 lisk for sale. I will sell to best offer for BTC, we'll use escrow. Email: [email protected]
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>>1182263
ico was purely speculative, and th iou scam is creating false scarcity, so people are seeing the run-up and buying the peak not understanding how this shit is gonna plummet once the ico actually completes.
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>>1187535
did you really drop 15 BTC on the ico?
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There is now a 3rd exchange that sells Lisk
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>>1188237
He will make at least 30 BTC after it hit real exchange.
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OpenLedger has started selling Lisk
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Lisk coins available for purchase.
In case of interest email [email protected]
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