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Fear my never-ending erection, you peeper of poppers!

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If God were real... how are you still alive?

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God loves you

I want to believe in God but I can't. How can God exist if different religions believe in different ones

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Blind faith

>>687571612
>how can gravity exist if different scientists have different opinions on what it is

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I'm bored with these shit posts

>>687571858
fug

>>687571858
you probably meant galaxy

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God reams your asshole out and you suck his cock

>>687570835
But why do you always use a picture of that girl? Don't you want a little variety in your life?

See this shit here

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Christ!!

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>>687570835
I think that you would very much enjoy this video...

https://youtu.be/mEykzLXkhgk

This thread became Ala's celebration, fuck you muslims!

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>>687570835

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Gods of porn
> Kek

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No this one
> my sides

In your bible your god killed millions. Your Satan killed 10. Seems most of you picked the wrong side in your little story book

I am an Atheist, and cannot stand Christians. All of you are sheep that can't think for yourselves and you cling to parroted Bible arguments whenever you're challenged. I have converted several of my Christian friends to Atheism and it's always the same, they always see the truth in the end.

>>687570835
>sheep
Calls their God the "shepherd"
Kek

>>687570835
As a Christian I would remind you that you should not be resentful toward those that do not believe in our faith. You cannot debate someone into conversion. The best method of sharing your faith is to value others as themselves and give witness through the Lords presence in your life. It is a simple concept that many who call themselves Christians misconstrue. It is not ours to judge. There is another, greater than us, to who all will have their hour with with. Ours is to share the joys of this life with others.

>>687570835
Factually prove God's existence.

Protip: you can't

https://youtu.be/ndeJGiHyPIk

>>687570835
> Dawkins
Don't lump me in that asshole. He is to atheism as Joel Olsteen is to Christianity.

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>>687570835

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>>687574570
Our understanding of God is a being than which no greater can be conceived.
The idea of God exists in the mind.
A being which exists both in the mind and in reality is greater than a being that exists only in the mind.
If God only exists in the mind, then we can conceive of a greater being—that which exists in reality.
We cannot be imagining something that is greater than God.
Therefore, God exists.

>>687574974
Maybe, but why is wprship required when I can just be a good person and help on my own accord, like I already do?

>>687573902
You used a recycled joke to counter a recycled shitpost.
Maximum edge acheived.

>>687574974
So wish fulfilment, got it.. well i am convinced.

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>>687575415
You're a bright one, aren't you.

>>687575270
Someone actually debating
>notbad.jpg

>>687570835
I find it funny how every night someone manages to post a picture of a whiny bitch from a make believe world defending christianism... good representation of the fanbase.

>>687570835
OP, another settlement needs our help.

>>687572684

>>687570835
Which type of Christianity do you believe in?

>>687574974
Maybe you misunderstood. You need to prove that God tangibly exists.

>>687574974
>Our understanding of God

Subjective.

>A being which exists both in the mind and in reality

Prove that God exists in reality. If you can't and still believe these ideals to be fact, you're delusional, ignorant, or both.

>If God only exists in the mind, then we can conceive of a greater being—that which exists in reality.

How so? How can you mentally conceive a physical existence?

>We cannot be imagining something that is greater than God.

Sure, because

>Therefore, God exists.

Invalid, unproven statement.

God made you.
God made atheists.
God gave them free will.
Therefore you're subverting God's will by trying to remove their free will.
And you're going to hell.
/thread

>>687574974
>god exists because i feel like he does

Poor baby, facts don't care about your feelings. You'll grow up and realize that one day.

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>>687576400
THIS

>>687576400
>>687574974

Didn't finish the second to last point. Perhaps you cannot be imagining something greater than god because you constrict your mind to the point of narrowness and subjectivity that you're self preventing yourself from doing so. You don't even understand the ideals and logic you claim to believe in.

>>687574974
This is called the ontological argument, and it's a shit argument. It implies the existence of any superlative. For instance: Devil exists by the same logic.

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>>687576746
Typical atheist, can't understand simple logic. Read it again, you may have to take an english class though.

Not my fault if you're dumb to understand when you're proven wrong.

>>687570835
I am too, kinda, but I think you are missing some points from the bible, mostly, be nice. Your friends may have just said they converted to shit you the fuck up, who actually knows? Either way, lurk moar n convert others with your niceness, not your hate. Save the debate for your spiritual elders so that they may be able to teach you and you them.

>>687576969
>Devil exists by the same logic.
your point?

>>687574974
That explanation begs the question:
What do you mean by 'greater'?

>>687572689

He wants to rape her.

>>687577003
Nobody has been proven wrong here. You just want to believe God exists for no reason. It's as simple as that, try not to get so upset next time buddy.

>>687574974
replace god with unicorn. the argument is fucking weak as hell.

>>687574974
>Our understanding of God is a being than which no greater can be conceived.
>Our understanding of God
>understanding
>God
GTFO with your hippie bullshit, I don't need you running around saying shit about my religion

>>687577292
>Nobody has been proven wrong here.
False. You have. I can't make you admit it i suppose, but maybe pick up a book sometime?

I am a faggot, and cannot stand heterosexuals. All of you are vagina lovers that can't think for yourselves and you cling to parroted heternormative arguments whenever you're challenged. I have converted several of my straight friends to faggotry and it's always the same, they always see the beauty of the penis in the end.

Try to suck more cock than me. You will lose.

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>>687570835
dem finches are comin for you

not sure if the guro posters realize this was b8

>>687570835
There is a book called "a million little pieces."
Book was published years ago, and the author claimed it to be based on his life, all fact.
Everyone believed him. That is, until people started to question it, and they searched and found it to be false.
The book is a lie. None of it happened.

Some people look at the bible, thousands and thousands of years old, and claim it to be true. Scientist have proved things to be true, we have found gravity and we have found dinosaurs. Those things are not mentioned in the bible. The homosexual debate pisses me off because why does it matter what gays do? Worry about your own life, you know?

I guess what I am trying to say is that even though you claim God is in the mind, and I have heard that scientist have found that to be "true" I still do not believe in god because I think god was created in those times because religion was a factor to use to control people. Look at other gods from the past, like Zeus. People use to believe in him. Now, we all know he does not exist.

Our mind belongs in the brain, and our brain belongs in the body. When we die, our bodies slowly tear apart, as do our brains.

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>>687570835
You have the right to believe, I lack the faith to believe. It is hard for me to believe; nothing more or less.

>>687577195
By greater, ignorant anon means omnipotent. All knowing and understanding, divine.

There are many loopholes and contradictions that destroy this kind of logic.

For instance, the Christian omnipotent god unconditionally loves all of his creations and is endlessly forgiving. Yet, going by the Christian perspective, you can be condemned to an eterenity of "Hell" for whatever reasons.

Would an unconditionally loving and forgiving God condemn his beloved creations if he truly loved them.

God is an egotistical being. Why demand worship and faith instead of making your presence clear and known to free-willed humankind? If god determines the outcome of lives, why are innocent people brutally killed each day?

If god is egotistical, he is not omnipotent, and is far from a perfect entity.

>>687577871
how do you even do that

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>>687574974
>A being which exists both in the mind and in reality is greater than a being that exists only in the mind.
You fail right here anon.

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“For hGod so loved ithe world,9 jthat he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not kperish but have eternal life.

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Eat shit faggots

Muslims have massacred over 669+ million non-Muslims since 622AD
Around 5,000,000 in the first 4 crusades, with another 1,000,000 in the Albigensian Crusade.
Then to weed out those nasty people that were left, there was The Holy Office to deal with, which accounted for around another 140,000. Mostly tortured first before suffering some disgusting fate that they dreamed up.
Maybe 200,000 witches, then you can add in the Wars of Religion in Europe that was about 3,400,000, The 30 Years War, 40% of Germany annihilated plus 1000`s of others.
Then there was the persecution of the Jews, about 450,000 up to the end of the 17th century and so on.

About 23,500,000...maybe more.

And that is just Europe and the Levant plus I stopped counting at around the year 1700.
All in the name of god! But don't worry, he loves YOU, dumbass

>>687578291
Well, I can think of a much greater world then their god has produced, so I guess, according to their own ontological argument, that means their god doesn't exist .

>>687578462
Apparently he was wrong.
But don't worry... Man will soon defeat death without the need for any gods.

>>687580229
To imagine the vastness of space and then believe that there's a God that retains our image and revolves around us is a very asinine perspective to have. The universe doesn't revolve around us; we revolve around our solar system's sun. Without it means no life, and I highly doubt an entity can change that.

God very well may exist, but objective arguments are always logical and more reasonable, and these arguments point towards his nonexistence.

I maintain my agnostic perspective. Only physical evidence can change that.

>>687570835
I accept that debate... And where would you like to debate? How about up my nose with a rubber hose.

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>>687570835
" my religion is correct because it says it's correct"

>>687570835
You can't prove that Dawkins is wrong!

OP, OP, oh dear OP,
Answer me these questions three.

1. If God is omnipotent and doesn't want to send anybody to hell, why doesn't he just forgive everybody? Or if he's not "omnipotent enough" to make that happen, who is forcing an omnipotent being into torturing his own creation against his will?

2. The New Testament doesn't have a basis outside of the old testament, but the old testament doestrogen not mention hell. Did God fidget to mention hell for four thousand years?

3. What is the difference between faith and cognitive bias?

>>687582418
Forget *

Does*

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just stop

Why would an all powerful god that knows everything need people to stand up for him. That is silly

>>687583018
You're at a significant disadvantage when you don't exist though

>>687571858
Because it was proven by a thing called "experiments". I hope you took 3rd grade science my friend.

>>687583932
And God has been proven by a thing called "logic."

>>687584131
W8 a sec gr8 fisherman, you got any 'evidence' for that shit like gravity has? Science has evidence, religion is a bad joke for idiots :DDDDDD

>>687584131
That is the one thing that cant be proven with logic lol

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>>687584443
You took it. You fucked up. You only had one job, and it was literally to do nothing.

>>687571858
Gravity is the cumulative effect on things that can be measured and experienced. Gods have no such measurable effect.

What is the difference between the effects of a god and no god?

>>687585185
>God
The world exists
>no God
The world doesn't exist

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>>687585390
>simulation
The world exists
>no simulation
The world doesn't exist

Now I get it... no proof needed!

>>687570835
>Satan is evil, and he likes evil things
>Evil people go to hell, to recieve their punishment from Satan

The question is, why does SATAN punish people for EVIL thing when he like evil things?

>>687585992
Dude he gave you the same proof of God as there is of gravity

We don't know what gravity is, but without it apples wouldn't fall to the ground.

We don't know the nature of God, but without him the universe couldn't possibly exist.

>>687586250
Who is this 'we' that doesn't know what gravity is?
>2016- doesn't know about gravity waves
Gravity is the effect we observe in the bending of spacetime.

>>687570835
Religion is tbe ultimate gamble. You buy a ticket, you hope it pays out at the end, and ultimately that's all you get. You pay for hope. Hope for an afterlife, hope that you picked a winner from thousands of competing ideologies and faiths. It's all the same, a wishful thought dressed up in ritual and blind adherence, denial of that harshest of realities, that all existences come to an end. The house always wins.

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>>687586796
>Gravity is the effect
Don't play dumb. Naming the effect does not mean you understand the cause. We don't know what causes gravity.

>>687570835
Christians are sinners that break their own commandments it doesnt matter if you argue with me your still going to hell dork

Constant posts about religion on /b/ oh wow another one. So original just the same as the last. Even has the same picture as the last one. Personally I could give a fuck what religion you follow. You could have a religion that just says you need to fuck dogs in the ass every day for all I care. Take your stupid shit else where.

>>687587279
Not the guy you're replying to, but this is a false analogy. In order for objects to fall, there has to be a cause, and we have named that cause gravity, we haven't asserted any other extraneous qualities. In order for the universe to exist, I'm willing to say that there probably should be some sort of cause, but when you posit the christian god, you're attaching several qualities to that cause that aren't demonstrable, and have to be argued for philosophically. The two things aren't comparable.

>>687570835
What created god?

>>687587279
But the effect can be measured.
There is no measurable effect from a god.
>God is gravity, because I can't explain gravity so God's effects are measurable in gravity... ya, that's the ticket!

>>687587981
>There is no measurable effect from a god.
Yes there is. The world exists. Without a god, the world wouldn't exist, just like without gravity we'd float freely in space.

>>687587981

This is exactly the problem OP has with us atheists. Just because you can't prove something empirically, doesn't necessarily mean that it does not exist. You can prove things by deduction and you can use logic to form an argument that is valid and sound to prove your assertion. It's not purely dependent on science.

>>687588394
>The world exists. Without simulating a world, the world wouldn't exist. Therefor we are living in a simulation.
It's the same dude.

>>687589721
Like I said. We don't know the nature of God, just like we don't know the cause of gravity.

The whole point of the statement you replied to is that there may be different interpretations of a creator, but a creator MUST exist, just as gravity MUST exist, because it's self-evident.

Monistic pantheist here

You're all confused children

>Fips tedora

>>687590185
>>687587808

read my reply, this is fallacious

>>687587808
Perhaps, if you grant the existence of God, a Christian would explain why that God must be the Christian God.

>>687590185
If its self evident, then what created the creator?
In a simulator hypothesis, the simulation creator originates by natural processes. What natural process created the creator gods?

>>687591150
i'm not granting the existence of an omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient god, which is what has to be granted before a christian can explain why that god is the christian god. i'm just granting a first cause

>>687591233
Good question, but it is beyond the scope of this conversation, I think. I am only showing that a direct creator must exist.

>>687590970
A guy reads one article with a false conclusion about simulations and thinks this is a legit argument. Lol. Go read the last 2 millenia of Theology and philosophy and get back to me (by the way, same field until 400 years ago)

>>687591445
Go read Anselm

>>687591546
You speak of infinite regression. Is that logical to you?

>>687591579
400 years ago, we found out the Earth isn't the center of the universe.

>>687591233
What you call "natural processes" Christians call "God" You also have very different ideas about how the process works. This is just a definition all issue. What about God do you think impossible and why?

>>687591579
i didn't reference an article? and that's quite a silly thing to say. ok, go read every single rebuttal to those philosophical and theological writings and get back to me. once we've both done that, i'm sure it'll be the debate of the century