This proves it op
http://www.streamboobs.com/emmakat/

>>687572684
god exists its me
But i cant use any of my "superpowers"
Take god as an idea there are a lot of things that happen by coincidence god its like luck
Even if you are logical there must be something that has happened to you that you find unexplainable

>>687573589
Given infinite amount of time, everything is possible.

Chance covers all possibility in this universe. There's literally a chance that god will never exist and a chance my dick turns to gold. Chance is not fucking god.

>>687572684
riddle me this batman?
¿
?؟
⸮?
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>>687572684
Here is proof he doesn't exist

https://youtu.be/mEykzLXkhgk

In order for something to exist something needs to create it, no? So something had to have the power to be on its own. Otherwise...explain the beginning.

>>687572684
i believe that god doesnt exist, but thats all, i can only believe, its a question too big for us to care or to ever explain or solve, so i believe that there is no god, althout i dont discard the posibility that there is one, but even if there is one, he has no practical use in the world, he cant do anything and so he is no god rather just a maker

>>687572684
You've all been drinking too much fluoride. There is no God. There is no devil. The only devil is life. And the government using manipulation tactics for a very long time. In more ways then people know. If there was a god. Would he be on this shit hole of a planet. Out of ALL. And that's another thing. Do you think life on other planets thinks there's a god? The answer would be most likely not. God is a concept. A metaphor. Same as heaven and hell. The only gods we have our ourselves. We are all but gods. Try and prove me wrong. And don't just spout bullshit

>>687572684
who is this chick op?

>>687573966
You dont have an infinite amount of time if you cant explain you are just guessing it how can you know it has an explanation

>>687572684
You may be logical, but your spelling sucks.

Of course, logically speaking, you can't prove a negative, so you can never prove God does not exist.

But consider the following. Physicists agree that space-time probably includes an infinite number of universes, each one different.

If that is true, there must be at least one in which God -does- exist because if God could exist in such a multiverse as a finte probability, then he -must- exist, somewhere.

>>687574430
Agreed

>>687572684
Can I buy your fedora directly from you, or do I need to go through some sort of third party service to ensure it gets to me with that thin sheen of smug superiority intact?

>>687575342

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>>687575342
Friend. There is other life on planets. If one came to earth and had super powers and claimed it's God. 75% would most likely believe. And also be scared shitless. People are easily manipulated. There is no sin. Question for you. Before the bible. Does the neanderthal go to hell for murder? They did what they had to to survive. I sent that what we do in our own way no matter what? Either way. If there was a god. It did other have anything to do with the bible. But funny how that is eh. I like religion. People need it now and days. Think about that for a second.

You can't have something from nothing, therefore something created something.

Since something created something it must have created itself.

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>>687572684
>be Christian
>know God exists because of Faith and the bible

>be atheist
>know nothing
>admit you know nothing and still argue the point

Why are atheists such idiots? If they don't know their beliefs are true, then why do they still insist on disagreeing with people who do?

>>687576497
OR MAYBE it was just made up for people to try and understand. Yet again. Other planets. Think wider.

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>>687572684
To prove God scientifically means to subject God to the scientific method (observation, hypothesis, experiment, etc), which basically means we would have to control the hand of God to do this. God is above humans and we as humans do not and can not control what God does since he is, you know, above humans instead of being subject to humans.

Besides, atheists tend to pigeon hole their minds into thinking science is the ONLY way to prove God, as opposed to the other ways the Bible can be verified. There are other ways to prove the Bible aside from science. For instance, prophecies that have been fulfilled, the change that being saved makes on a person, and it's STILL the best explanation for why humans act the way they do towards each other. Think outside the box for once, people.

>>687572684
Logically you can't prove there isn't a god either, as far as I've seen.
As long as we're entertaining you, you could return the favor.

Personally I believe in a power outside that which I can recognize. Not that it's any "god" by the meaning we commonly associate with the word, and I can't say if the power is even cognitively aware, as its state is probably far beyond anything quantifiable through logic; like I said earlier, a power beyond that which is recognizable.
I believe in this power because I believe logically consciousness is unable to be replicated through physical means. I guess I can get deeply into the process I used to decide this, but I can't remember exactly how. Basically I find it hard to believe evolution could have resulted in consciousness if it is something physically intangible.
Much like energy and matter - things which were not the product of evolution, and have no specified origin.

>>687572684
God exists because im logical. If you can prove he doesnt exist then i will believe you

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>>687576689
>>687576689
>think wider
what?

>>687572684
Seriously, anyone know who this chic is?

>>687576726
How long does it take for a coincidence to happen like that. Your gonna die one day. And someone in your family is going to be a hero. There's a prophecy. Well it come true?.

if there was a god he would be on youtube now answer the question who is that chic

>>687572684
Name pls

>>687575342
In a universe like ours the concept of a god breaks the laws of physics.

No matter how many tries you get, you can't break those laws, so there are no universes like ours with a god.

to add on to that, the Christian concept of a god requires that god to create the universe, which is also impossible.

>>687572684
If you want us to attack your logic you're going to have to provide it.

Tell me the logical argument that proves your statement.

>>687572684
I would prefer you don't believe in God. Also, please stay the fuck off the roads as you just get in my way.

>>687577262
Because a being that trancesends all time is effected by laws of physics...the very same laws it created. Logic in a logic thread

>>687577036
>>687577232
>>687575015


chaturbate /lana_rain/

You're welcome

>>687576632
>know god exists because faith and the bible

Faith is literally just belief without evidence, and the bible is a book with no sources.

>>687573966
Didn't you just argue that given an infinite amount of time, everything is possible. Wouldn't that mean it's possible that a god would exist?

>>687576977
People in here are just staying so... straight lined. The answer is simple. We tried to understand something we don't but do in our own way. We made it up. That's all it is... but then more at the same time.....

Still no logic
OP pulls ahead of Christfags

>>687572684
You... I like you.

>>687577620
God is real

god must like war

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>>687577748
>Faith is literally just belief without evidence
False. True faith is evidence of its own.

>>687577589
Transcending time in the first place breaks the laws of physics. You're making the assertion that something can bypass the laws of physics "just because". If you can show me the math that lets something transcend time, go ahead.

>>687578010
>True faith is evidence of its own.
evidence of how thoroughly you've been tricked? the amount of baseless belief you have doesn't make something true.

>>687578010
Define faith, then. Because the literal definition of faith I know is an acceptance of a statement as true SPECIFICALLY without evidence.

>>687578375
This guy gets it.

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This thread was entertaining for a while but now all yall motherfuckers have gone boring.

I'm out.

>>687578010
Can you give me a source on that?

>>687578549
he has true faith that it's correct, which means it's correct, friend :^)

>>687578702
The circular logic is real.

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>>687578466
>>687578549
True faith cannot be false.

My question is why argue a moot point?

The question is only meaningful to those who don't know the answer - and at the point the answer is revealed the question no longer holds meaning.

Argument will never come up with anything decisive, and literally only exists as a way for two people to be mad at each other.

OP basically said ITT we speculate everyone else is wrong

>>687572684
Oh, wow, so insightful!

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>>687572684
Look into God as the first cause. Logic can be harnessed equally in favor of and against the idea of God. What it comes down to is faith. To reject God one must have the same faith as one who accepts God. Logic proves nothing; one philosopher states an idea and supports it with logic applied in a thought experiment, another does the same and contradicts the first. Both follow, they are both logical, yet they come to different and contradictory conclusions.

Blah blah blah. Who gives a shit, in the end we will all find out the truth. In the mean time, why even bother shitting up your life and the lives of others with this nonsense?

If you know he doesn't exist why do you want a bunch of random retards on the internet to make you believe in him?

>>687578857
Again, why? You're asking us to believe faith is evidence based on... faith. That's a circular argument if I've ever seen one.

>>687578857
I have true faith that God does not exist. I firmly believe this in my heart of hearts. Does this mean God does not exist?

>>687579079
If god can be the first cause then why can't the big bang?

>>687578010
That faith exists is evidence that the brain can experience faith. It's kind of weak evidence for the existence of God though, you still need another piece of evidence to show that faith is actually connecting you to God somehow. For example, you may touch a doorknob and find that it's hot, which is weak evidence there is a fire on the other side of the door. Maybe the sun was just beating down on it though. Hot doorknob and a smoky room, strong evidence there is fire.

should i mow the lawn or have a beer . What would god do?

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>>687579206
If you had ever experienced it, you'd understand. True faith is a gift from God, and if you opened up to him maybe he would give it to you.

>>687579386
You do not have true faith. True faith cannot be false.

>>687572684
I don't think you understand what logic is.

Anyone who says god is/isn't real is wrong

>>687579554
Welp, you've devolved to insulting instead of argument. No hope for an honest debate I guess.

>>687572684
or you can google Karl Popper and not be an edgy teenager anymore.

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>>687579743
I'm not insulting anyone. I am contradicting you, because you are wrong.

>>687574661
That's a paradox and you know it.

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>>687578857
> uses the empress pic
> people still not realizing he's a shitty troll and is probably atheist himself
> mfw

>>687579966
What you're doing is yelling "your wrong" over and over instead of actually providing evidence.

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>>687579445
I think you missed the point entirely.

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>>687580209
You say you have true faith that God exists.

However, true faith cannot be wrong.

Therefore, you must not have true faith.

>>687579554
>You do not have true faith. True faith cannot be false.

Okay, so according to your argument, someone who believes in faith the same way you do, but believes in a different god, DOES NOT have true faith, because if your faith is true and they contradict, he is wrong.

According to your argument, you are correct because you dropped acid or something and """"god"""" """"told you"""" you were correct, and therefore we should believe what you believe. Because you claim to have true faith.

>>687580502
So basically, your argument is that what you think is right and what everyone else thinks is wrong?

>>687572684
Prove God doesn't exist.

>>687580832
In a debate the one making a positive claim is the one that has to provide the proof. Arguing against a negative claim by saying "prove it" is called a teacup fallacy.

>>687580832
Unprovable, even by checking the entire universe for god at the same time. Because according to the rules of god, god can do anything he wants, including violating physics and hiding himself perfectly.

Luckily you never have to prove a negative. Assertions without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

"Everything was made by a bearded man with a fiery torture fetish"
"Nah" -valid counter-response

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>>687580713
No. I KNOW that God exists, because he has given me true faith. Atheists are mostly misguided/misinformed. Those who claim to have true faith that God doesn't exist are lying, because true faith can come only from God.

>>687580681
I wouldn't expect you to understand. Like I said, if you opened up to God maybe he'd show you.

>>687572684
>>687572684
>I know god doesn't exist

That's an illogical statement. If you were really logical, you'd understand that there isn't objective evidence that proves or disproves his existence.

Being too far right or left is illogical in the the state of lacking evidence to prove either argument.

>>687581455
>Like I said, if you opened up to God maybe he'd show you.

What did you cut your DMT with before you were shown the truth? Ground up communion wafers?

>>687581455
All of this is only according to you. You may "know" that god exists, but your evidence for that is that you "know" god exists.
>he has given me true faith
according to you
>atheists are misguided
according to you
>true faith only comes from god
according to you

>>687581900
And this line of logic relies heavily on a deep sense of cosmic self-importance- "God spoke to ME PERSONALLY and revealed the truth, not like you dumb mislead plebs"

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>>687581644
I have never taken drugs of any kind.

>>687581900
I, an anon on 4chan, cannot convince you that anything I tell you is true. But in any case, I KNOW that God is real, while you as an atheist cannot KNOW that he isn't. By default, I win the argument.

I don't expect you to convert right away. But think on what I've said.

>>687582306
>>687582306
>I KNOW that God is real, while you as an atheist cannot KNOW that he isn't.

Troll confirmed.

>>687582306
I really don't give a flying fuck what you think you know. Give me a reason to believe that you are an all knowing, hyper-guru whose beliefs are superior to everyone else's.

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>>687582306
hopefully troll, if not, too stupid to live

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>>687582646
I don't claim any of that. But I have true faith, and I can tell you for certain that God exists.

>>687582306
I KNOW that Thor is real, while you as a christian cannot KNOW that he isn't. By default, I win. Thor is the one true God.

>>687582844
>for certain
again, give me one reason to believe you

>>687582844
what is true faith to you

This problem been solved hundreds of years ago but I guess y'all uneducated moronic Americans wouldn't have heard of it. Just read Kant you idiots. God can't be proven, period.

Hey there religious one, what say you about dinosaurs? Some "Christians" claim the earth is only so many thousands of years old, and thus dino fossils are a "test of faith." Science factually proves otherwise, but I'm curious.

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>>687583028
We're on 4chan. You have no reason to believe anyone. But you ignore me at your peril.

>>687583063
An absolute certainty in an absolute truth, bestowed on an individual by God.

>>687583008
Maybe he does exist.

Three blind men are all shown an elephant. The first feels the trunk, and says the elephant is like a snake. The second feels a leg, and says an elephant is like a tree trunk. The third feels the tail, and says an elephant is like a rope. All are wrong, and all are right.

what makes us think that who/what created the universe also created us

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>>687583147
wow, really? good thing you came along to tell us that. So many people were lost in a tizzy, unsure if it was possible or not to prove god exists.. and then you came in over the horizon, with the answer that escaped the masses: it's impossible. What a fucking hero. It was really touch-and-go there for awhile.

>>687583661
>you have no reason to believe anyone
than fuck off with your arguments based on your all knowing-ness.

>>687583147
> calls people idiots
> has to read a book to determine its impossible to proove/disprove god

If I didn't hear it from the horses mouth it's not true just a bunch of rumors made up by sheep aka the bible

>>687584062
You're feeding the troll, anon. He's probably atheist, bored, and is enjoying pissing you guys off.

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>>687584062
I pity you.

>>687584185
this. he's using the empress with every post, as if to say "wake up asshole, Im trolling you". Give it up already.

>>687583661
what makes you think your god created everything else he could just be a creation of a higher being

>>687575342
All of this

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>>687584335
Perhaps he didn't. All that matters is that he is our creator, and he is our higher being.

So, to believe in God implies the cancellation of any logic, at least in true propositional sense. Those who believe they can demonstrate God's existence with Logic are misguided. They always use the Bible to demonstrate anything. What gives truth to the Bible is that it was revealed by God. This reveletion for theists is where their idea of truth lies. But it is validated only by faith, and that faith is unreasonable, St. Augustine himself demonstrated it. Holy truth must be irrational for only the ones who have faith shall enter the realm of god or whatever. So, no, it is imposible to show through logic that God exists.

>>687572684

When will people know that the collective consciousness is god we brought our selves into this multidimensional plane of existence out of shear will for explanation and knowing whats deeper to our single existence.

>>687576726
Dude who is that girl that appears on every religion post?

Hi

>>687572684
Tide goes out, tide comes in.

You can't explain that

>>687585888

it is for the greater good

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>>687572684
Time stamp or gtfo. Also then not than.
Mfw when I realized this was bait.

>>687574661
You're either saying that God doesn't exist, or that something created him

*sigh*
easy: knowledge
knowledge (logos, one of its meanings,) leads to truth
truth is everything about something, past, present,future, etc.
since everything is related, you need to know everything to know the truth,
compared to others (humans) we're stupid as fuck, and still they don't know shit.
God is the basis, the truth. if you can't gather all knowledge, you will never be able to understand God. "...then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free..."

don't claim to be logically rejecting God's existence while random 4chan browsers know better than you (see posts above)

>>687572684
Look at the environment around you ya fucking twat.
A genius being had to have set this design in motion, but whatever that genius is doesn't give a fuck, so why should we give a fuck...
God is real and it's out there, but why care if it doesn't care about its creations.

You can't prove God, you can't disprove God. It is a harsh understatement to say that humanity is to technologically primitive to prove his existence. Assuming he does exist, he's placed a cap on how far we can get so that faith becomes the determining factor whether or not we love him.otherwise, he would've shown himself a long time ago instead of being so cryptic. Whether or not you do believe is really expressed in Pascal's Wager

>>687587006
Tell me exactly why a "genius" is needed for the universe to function.

It does "who is man that you are mindful of, mere mortals that you care for" if by "doesn't care", meaning he does not consider stupid requests then you're wrong. he is a Loving and Just God. (still in the argument of if you can't know everything, then trust in the one that does)

>>687587219
Pascals wager is stupid. It assumes that there can only ever be one, Christian, god. It's perfectly possible that worshiping another god will make the true god more angry than not worshiping at all.

>>687585117
She is God

I had sex with your mom in the ass. That's probably the closest to god I've ever been

furthermore:God gives free will, he tells them what to do so everything would be enjoyable, they do shit, then expect God to clean the mess up? he did save us, (don't dwindle on salvation or else the topic will sway too far)
then teaches us how to clean it up ourselves, but still, humans do shit.

OP is a faggot. If you "know" god doesn't exist then why debate it like a retard. That's how i know logically that op is a faggot, because he debates things he "knows".

>>687587624
Well, yeah, but the arguments mostly assume a Semitic-based God for whatever reason

>>687587876
4chan is anonymous. we have no idea what your other post was.

to the shown himself guy: try containing all knowledge right before your eyes, shit staring at boobs creates lag already. then there's what we call "women" (this is a joke, if you find it offensive, I immediately apologize, so that the topic won't sway)

>>687588445
fuck what you say man religion is out there

religion can't give all knowledge(truth). just gathering knowledge about the one who does. (see posts above)

>>687589256

the one who does is a cunt. just think why we sexualise god so much

>>687589454
>sexualize god
what

>>687589540

i beg you watch this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSaNpHA9Qao

>>687572684
the bible predicts the country of Israel 2000 years before it actually happens.

>sexualize
it's based on our understanding of him, not based on what he really is,
(insert argument about geocentric-heliocentric)

>>687589945
Can't tell if joking or retarded...

>>687590184
it really does. look it up.

>>687590357
Yes, it does. The same way the Ostrogothic kingdom predicted the kingdom of Italy.

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>>687590027

right cos god is just a massive cock

op, which side are you again? (right now), and yes the bible did, (more or less 2000 idk, abraham area)

>>687572684
>First define God at it's most basic/universal
An unfathomable yet all powerful force

>Then estimate it's likelihood of existence
For something to be unfathomable is fairly likely. In Science there are many dead ends still surrounded in questions. These questions, like the question of God's existence itself, have existed since the dawn of human memory. Logic says it's probable they are unfathomable.

For something to be all powerful is not beyond logical/scientific understanding either. Things which are infinite, such as the universe and time itself, give the potential for infinite power. By definition, that which holds infinite power is all powerful.

How likely is it that such a power might be wielded? If you look at the progress of human civilization and its potential outcomes, you begin to see the possibility. When you consider the likelihood of other life in the universe, it becomes likely.

So, logicially speaking, God probably exists.

>>687590569
rather that is a mahousive cock.

Quite easy to predict what you might do in the next twenty minutes.

Please just google Ostrogothic kingdom. ill give you a minute

>>687590955
The bible predicted Israel because much of it was written in the literal kingdom of Israel, which controlled some of the same area that modern Israel does. The modern state of Israel was set up to mirror the ancient state from the bible. The bible didn't "predict" anything, we artificially created a state based on the one in the bible.

and predicting is shit. (infinite instances argument) but accordingly, when it's God's message it is proven, (insert resurrection argument here)

>>687591316
I was being sarcastic in case you didn't know.

>>687572738
I won't argue

>>687587677
Yes but from where, a series a movie or what?

>>687591534

point taken. although the bible was written by a christians about a mixed race cherub of a man. so they cant have been totally with it unless theres something going on

Do atheists reject the idea of a God or religion?

I think we all must know the universe must have been initiated by something - to me it does not need to be any sort of being. To me it could have been an instability of nothing and I would call that act, act of God.

What I hate is the world is divided between the main religions. Surely if there was a conscious God that has physical influence, only one is correct and would have dominance over humanity.

These main religions are Earth focused with no solution to the likely and impending discovery of life on other worlds. Fine, any other body in the solar system may only have single cell organisms, and religions can reject on the basis they're not conscious. Well I would say with a blend of Earth's life model and the discovery on other worlds it is extremely likely that there are other intelligent life forms elsewhere.

At that point I would ask religions what the fuck you going to alter now to your holy books to fit this shit in - all to justify your years of wasted time believing in something that is false.

Only physics chemistry biology psychology are in control of my destiny.

>>687572684
The big bang cannot have been ratified from nowhere, the big bang has no author, so doesnt god. Therefore believing god exists is just as stupid as believing in the big bang

>>687592339

your so wrong it hurts man. preferable outcome their all right. Atheism accepts the other realms, hindus are right about reincarnation and the holy trinity guides us through consistent civility and an analogous relationship with the quantum world we create around us in our own minds.

Its fucked how we work but down burn the collage

>>687592435
What scientist thinks the big bang came from no where?
Most I know have theories, like a alternate dimensional membranes colliding to create universes within a multiverse - it's just not naive enough to claim they're more than theories.

yep, but you dont need to believe for it to exist, try to not believe gravity. or do not believe I have a chair next to me. (again atheist=does not know God, if you know god but with an agrument you're not atheist, probably agnostic. goes for everyone)

so logical you know the difference between "than" and "then"

>>687573966
Wrong. Given infinite time, everything that is possible will happen. To the fellow that said his dick will turn gold, no it won't.

>>687592339
>I think we all must know the universe must have been initiated by something

Interesting thing really, it doesn't. Time is directly affected by gravity (more gravity = time goes slower relative to something not effected by gravity), among other things. The further you go back in time, the denser the universe gets, and the more gravity everything is effected by. If you go back far enough, you reach a point where the universe is so dense that time doesn't move forward. this can be seen as the beginning of the universe. The "big bang" is the rapid expansion that occurred when the universe expanded just enough that time could affect matter/energy. I'm no astrophysicist, but hawking has written some very interesting literature on the subject.

>*college

what if big bang happened due to a prior existence of matter? (don't expound, that's beginning of the universe, we're at a 'prove God exists' thread)

>>687593306

reality can only veer so far away surely

>>687593509
no honestly i meant collage. its a type of picture where you throw loads of little pictures together

>>687593306
Right on. Key word here is "possible" many things, like a Christian god, are not possible. This means that no matter how many universes there are, there won't be a god.

>>687593306
>his duck
Cannot exist in infinite time
You're applying a finite instance
That goes against:
>Given infinite amount of time
Because
>his duck
cannot be given an infinite amount of time.
Try again.
Bruh.

>>687593738
You're totally right. I see now he's a complete quack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfvEgWINUFc

>>687578282
Black holes, dark matter, absolute zero... things that physicists agree bend, or even break, the laws of physics. Now, this doesn't prove God, but does prove that you don't know what the heck you are talking about.

>>687572684
Then, not than

Idiot

>>687593675
oh
>>687593713
again one of God's definitions is that he transcends time (Insert more arguments here)

>>687572684
How exactly can you know for sure that there is no higher being? I'm not saying there has to be one but I'm not denying the idea of it even though I find it silly. Abscense of proof is not proof of absence

>>687594092
No physicists agree these things break the laws of physics. What they do agree on is that they don't fully understand them. Just because we don't understand certain things does not mean we can confidently say literally anything can happen.

>>687572684

>logic

the only logically conclusion is that there may, or may not be a god.

there is no evidence that proves god. this is NOT proof the god does NOT exist.

there is no evidence that disproves god. this is NOT proof that god DOES exist.

there is not enough evidence to support any conclusion other than UNKNOWN

atheists are as bad as religious people. when you make "factual" statements "god" and say that you "know" it is or isn't real, you're proving how very little you understand about the world.

agnostics are the only ones getting it right.

>>687594399
point. which side again? I could switch sides to get the thread going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh0Y2hVe_bw

>random explosion created everything

LUL,right. you use LOGIC. fucking nekbeard

>>687594273
One of harry potters definitions is that he's a wizard. that doesn't mean wizards can exist.

>>687593738
True, either way his dick will not turn gold.
If his dick could exist for infinite time, it is not possible for it to turn gold.

Also
His dick cannot exist for infinite time, and also cannot turn gold.

>>687594624
read previous posts before talking

Well, to burst some of your bubbles, physics as we know it is just the frosting on an iced bottle as to how the universe is.

If you take a clip of doing a flip and reversed it, that is "possible" and perfectly follows physics. Imagine eating a cake by spoon for a minute then reversing it. Doesn't look possible yet follows the laws of physics.

Time isn't linear.

heres a pair of tits

laughing in the tenth dimension is weird

>>687578761
I believe in A, therefore A proves B. Since B is real, it is evidence of A. Religious reasoning, right? Belief in "evolution" means that the ape bones, which match perfectly with an ape, which are missing its hands, feet, and head, connected with human-like footprints found a thousand miles away must mean that ape jad human-like hands, feet, and face, since humans could not be at the time, and we name this "Lucy: mother of humanity" . Therefore, since Lucy is true and real, she PROVES evolution, which disproves God... Seriously, how do you people believe this?

>>687594760
How can you be certain? Someone might eventually turn an immortal duck into gold.

>>687594449
Have you ever even read a physics book?

>>687594690
definition based on discussion, and furthermore, read the gold dick part.
>>687594760
but if in an instance his dick was magically turned into gold (in an unlikely universe)

>>687575342
>>687576048
>>687584369
>physicists agree

no, you just want a pseudoscience go-to argument

>>687574661
why not consider the energy and mass of the universe created the universe?

>>687594937
wow what a good argument. if you see a problem with my comment, point it out instead of uselessly insulting it.

I'm na baby papi!

>>687594937
I wouldnt say hes wrong

>>687595141
Because mass is energy, you dipshit.

>>687575342
>>687595108
furthermore, infinite universes does not imply that an event will occur

you have the implicit assumption that any given event, no matter how absurd, has an infinitesimal probability of occurring, and thus it becomes certainty (in the limit as one goes to infinite universes)

if an absurd event has a zero probability of occurring, it will not occur in any universe

state your assumptions at the beginning such that one doesn't have to sift through appeals to misunderstood-spiritscience-physics

>>687594890
>>687595083
You cunts you know what I mean. Yes I supposed someone could turn his dick atom by atom into gold but the I ask you is it still his dick? At what point does it change from a dick to a sculpture. Because at somepoint it definitely won't be a dick. It won't function as a dick.

Inb4 prosthetic gold dick

Fuck off this isn't even the main argument

>>687595083
philosophy can't be used to prove anything, only to discuss it. Just because it was "discussed" doesn't mean it can happen

>>687595317
and physical mass isnt even half of it
>>687595141

>>687576632
HAHAHAHAH

You stupid motherfucker.

Fuck you all, i now know where is that girl from.

>>687594857 cause words in a shitty book with fake imaginary friends is equivalent to a multitude of sources which point in the same direction.

>>687595455

mate doubt what you see with your mind and youll be left in the dust

call them appeals.

Only 2 things exsit for certain and they are 1 in the same.
Ready magnetism and electricity!!!
Everything ever ever ever is one and both of these!

>>687595462
You're changing the question of possibility to one of definition. It's a red herring if I ever saw one.

>>687577262
>>687594449

>>687595462
switch sides. a Gold functioning Dick is awesome.
>>687595529
discussion is meant to collect information. leading to truth.
>>687576632
I'm christian. but please use your brain to argue not your dick

>>687576632
>>687576726

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/04/most-rabbis-think-passover-and-other-old-testament-stories-are-fiction/

All this 'being a good person' shit is a part of our instincts. Not being a 'good person' generally leads to having no friends and being a social outcast, which is adverse for survival. People don't like 'not good' people because they generally don't give a fuck about their situation and will do as they please.

It's amazing how far a social psychology perspective goes in debunking a lot of the religion shit.

Remember that Abraham, Moses, Jesus, and the whole lot could have just been a series übermensche, working off of previous grounds to seem legitimate, and expanding their own influence.

Physics allows for a universe to pop into existence. Deal with it.

>>687595837
true. prize millions go to who predicts the future the best

>>687572684
logic is knowing organic matter cannot come from inorganic matter.

>>687596012
No, collecting information is meant to collect information. Discussion can't produce any quantifiable "information"

Religion is a man made creation. So you believe in man not GOD!
Simple bia bia!

>>687572684

> logic
> anything is possible
> God can't exist?
> you loose

Thank you!!!

>>687596213
yes it can. there's no reason that it cant, they are made from the same things. The term "organic matter" is just a loose term for anything that can make more of itself.

>>687596416
>anything is possible
uh... no? anything that is possible can/will happen, but that doesn't mean anything can happen.

I'm an atheist, but I don't dispute that there is something that created everything. But if we were purely speaking of logic, then God has yet to be proven. And unfortunately there is more scientific logic than there is of the self contradicting bible. Which is why I tend to believe the fact that there is more than likely no god. If there is a god, and you presume that it's a living thing, then it has left. There is no reason for it to stick around and watch us, and apparently people believe that it watches every single human on the earth and has a plan for each one. Now that is even more absurd to me because there are billions of people on he earth. There is no way someone would stay to monitor each individual person in the world. If there were to be a god, it has much bigger and better things to do than watch people and make plans for each of them. I can't prove that he doesn't exist, but the staggering amount of unreasonable ideas leads me to believe that a god is absurd. And that if there is one, then he doesn't necessarily care about one tiny planet in the extraordinarily massive universe that we have proof exists. We are particles compared to what God could be focusing on creating right this second. And if you say, yes he can watch all of us and makes plans for all of us then that sounds even more absurd. And I don't see how people don't realize that.

>>687596513

Space made up of more dark matter then matter we can quantify accurately
> that's without knowing how much more
> inorganic
> growing
> found in black holes
> op can't science

>>687596513
well then create life for me. ill wait

>>687596251
discussion->communication. your professor discusses in front of class.

>>687596321
God is not religion.
>>687596416
God is not an instance. anything is possible (gold dick)
>>687596690
thank you

>>687595148
>>687595294
can't find the specific stories that i am thinking of, but there are countless where the laws, perfect and infallible that they are, are broken, and then need to be reworked. one example is http://www.livescience.com/15873-light-bending-experiment-physicists-coneheads.html but you will just say "that's because we didn't know everything," even though we never will, which points to the laws being bent, over and over again

>>687596716

Can't cuz you're not God?
Animals in the world can pro create with 1 animal

>>687596716
So organic matter = life?

>>687596716
I personally couldn't, but it's actually perfectly possible for humans to create life.

>>687596513
dipshit organic literally means alive. Matter doesn't make matter out of itself; ever hear of conservation of matter?

>be OP
>"hey I have an idea"
>let me jump on /b/ and shitpost about my dumbass religious beliefs
>insult religious folk for not using logic
>proceed to ignore all logic when defending your own stance

>>687596917
tf? that comes from organic matter already. im talking about making the first cell. organic matter cant come from inorganic matter. if you overthink my saying, you are an idiot

>>687572684
Who's this chick??

>>687596950
>>687596993
don't overthink things in life, itll be easier for yall

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Think about it like this, electrons have been proven to exit and enter reality randomly. And what is our brains but a network of super electrons? So with that being said, our mind/ centiouns (soul) exist both in the 3rd dimension and outside of it (afterlife) simultaneously. All religious tomes ancient so they were forced to speak in parables and symbolism, unfortunately there is no way to prove in a higher power because we are technically advanced but not spiritually, so yer best bet is to reflect internally and come to these conclusions your self.

There's a creator, he's not the religious text. Either you are atheist because you're edgy, and don't know science, Theism is just as logical if not more

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>>687596993
We all know how that went

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>>687596860
Generally (if you're in a STEM class) your professor is repeating to you the findings of researchers studying the physical world. If he asks you to discuss something, then it's for the purpose of teaching you what research has found. As I said, you can't learn anything quantifiable from discussion.

>>687597390
Demon or Frog?

>>687596862
I wouldnt bother. its in the error term. basically something you know thats there but have no way of disassociating it from normal probability.

thats why quantum mechanics just looks whacko, because it makes up the error term of the physical realm of science.

knowing the laws of quantum mechanics means getting a grip on predicting the future and a whole load of other crazy stuff that makes scientists shill in their pants

>>687597476
Frog Demon