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I don't get the hype.
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>>1169942
Modern day funaki with a faggot "i so strong" gimmick. Nothing special.
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that's okay

it's natural charisma + anime bullshit and good technical skills
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He's Japanese so Meltzer doubled the real star rating for his matches (even when they weren't in the Tokyo Dome)
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his gimmick is le strong kick
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itt wwe babbys
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same here. I saw that nxt match vs muzzie and wasnt impressed with any of his shit
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He's better than any American wrestler in the past 20 years and his english is already pretty good. He's going to be the Ric Flair of this generation.
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If you don't "get" Nakamura, you don't get wrestling.
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>>1170012
>ric flair
please get off 4chan meltz, you're to old for it
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>>1170012
>He's better than any American wrestler in the past 20 years

No
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>>1170027
>>1170029
Jim Ross, Dave Meltzer, HHH, Regal and Vince disagree with you.
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>>1170012
Oh fuck off Meltzer you old weeb
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>>1170036
>kurt angle
>cm punk
>daniel bryan
>hbk
>undertaker
>tommy dreamer
>taz
>benoit
>better than all of these guys

No fucking way smark. Get that dick out of your ass.
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>>1170029
>tfw Nakamura is a better wrestler than Shawn Michaels
>tfw Nakamura is a better sports entertainer than Shawn Michaels
>tfw Nakamura has more charisma than Shawn Michaels ever had
>tfw Nakamura makes Shawn Michaels look like Roman Reigns
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>>1170053
Benoit wasn't American you fucktart
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>>1170053
>cm punk

why are punkfags so delusional?

btw all this ''i dont get him'' is coming from guys who have not followed his career
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>>1170062
I purposefully named him to make fags like you try and "disprove" my whole post just because I named one Canadian wrestler. He isn't better than all those guys. He ain't even better than other canadian greats like Jericho and Bret.
>>1170063
Fine whatever. The problem comes when people like that fag literally say he is better than all the all time greatest wrestlers. Fuck out of here with that shit.
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>>1170070
>I'm not retarded, it was actually just my clever ruse
Just admit it slipped your mind, sadsack
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>>1170063
>btw all this ''i dont get him'' is coming from guys who have not followed his career

Yeah, mostly sour grapes, people on the outside looking in. They see fans around them excited for Nakamura, and become bitter because they weren't in on it from the beginning and had no idea how awesome his career in New Japan was. But instead of going back and watching his matches on the internet, they go the autistic whiny babby route and just claim that he sucks and he's overrated compared to their WWE superstars who they've watched all their lives.

Fucking contrarians.
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>>1170070
>The problem comes when people like that fag literally say he is better than all the all time greatest wrestlers

The difference is that that fag has most likely watched those "all time greatest wrestlers" and Nakamura and can form an accurate opinion on the matter. You never watched Nakamura and are unable to do so without blind bias.
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>>1170070
Great. How long have you been following Shins career?
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>>1170070
If you're talking about pure wrestling then Nakamura is better than Taker (who had shit matches for 10 years and only got to be decent post-Attitude Era), Dreamer, and Taz.

The rest of the guys on your list are all in the top-10 technicians ever, so yeah, no shit Nakamura isn't better than any of them. He's not far behind that tier though.

If you want to throw in production value, presentation, and entertainment value he's way ahead of guys like Benoit, Angle, and Bryan. In terms of the "total package" Nakamura is surely in the top-10 of the past decade.
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>I might not understand a single thing he says but he's definitely got superhuman levels of charisma
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>>1170101
Pretty much, Shinsuke is that based.

Charisma in rasslin is 90% mannerisms, how you move, how you control the crowd etc.
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At least your honest about your ignorance and don't pretend like this NXMeme crowd.
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>>1170107
>I know he's charismatic because of the way he moves
You people lmao
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>he marks for gooks that aren't Kaientai
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>>1170094
>If you want to throw in production value, presentation, and entertainment value he's way ahead of guys like Benoit, Angle, and Bryan. In terms of the "total package" Nakamura is surely in the top-10 of the past decade.

Pretty much this. He'll definitely go down as one of the all time greats, most certainly the top 5 of his era. Whether the /wwe/ babies want to admit it or not.
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>>1170119
Thats charisma you retard. He gained a big international following without speaking english.
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>>1170124
Yeah I'm sure that has nothing to do with Meltzer calling any gook with talent the best wrestler ever
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>>1170063
>Singles out punk in the list

I know you guys have a hate boner for him but really?
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>>1170053
>cm punk
>tommy dreamer
>taz
come on now lad
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As a Nakamura fan who has followed his career, I must say he is pretty great and can be god tier... when he WANTS to.

The problem with Nakamura is that he's kinda lazy. So yeah, he is a little overrated, but still great.
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>>1170094
>he's way ahead of guys like Benoit, Angle,

Call me when this fag is actually finally relevant where wrestling matters most. Which is in the USA. Angle is one of the all time greats and even has credentials outside of pro wrestling. Stop talking stupid shit. This is why people tell you guys to have sex. It's stupid to say some of these indy guys are better than these great wrestlers when they don't even have 1/10th the accomplishments or recognition.

Angle had it all. On top of that he is far more accomplished then Naka caca. What an insult by you to angle. Benoit was also more accomplished.
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>>1170133
if people followed Melty's preferences Tanahashi would be the most popular japanese wrestler in the states, but he is not.
And you know, people actually watch the matches and think for themselves.
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>its a le anti IWC bait post
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>>1170121
>trip over your opponent
>call it a finisher
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>>1170145
>I only watch murrican wrasslin so its the only scene that matters.
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>>1169942
6/10 bait
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>>1170082
i've been watching him since 2013 and he's always been overrated by puro marks, especially when some fags started calling him le swag. like i said elsewhere there are at least 10 other japanese wrestlers better than him
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>>1170147
So the obvious truth doesn't count because Meltzer overhypes other wrestlers too?
Solid logic
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>>1170151
Strikes are finishers in Japan. The american, japanese and mexican scenes developed differently and therefore are different. Stop watching everything with wwe eyes
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>>1170151
this, his finisher always looks so fucking sloppy and like it barely does any damage. its even more annoying because the announcers hype it up like its death
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>>1170159
>your opinion
obvious truth

neck yourself
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>>1170151
>not realizing Nakamura is selling his own move with the speed and intensity he uses to hit it with

Why are WWE babies so retarded? Is it because they are so accustomed to the second rate psychology in a typical WWE match?
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>>1170159
Which truth? Meltzer overrates the hell out of Ramen and he is still unpopular as fuck with the hardcore fanbase
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>>1170174
>actually getting baited by the army of dribbling retards that post around here.

There's a reason why people only come here to shitpost
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>>1170175
What utter lies, Meltzer spends more time stressing that he isn't "the guy" than praising him. If he ever does praise him it's certainly not to the extent of any given puro guy.
Damn, I destroyed you
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>>1170162
>his finisher always looks so fucking sloppy

Looking like a real fight as to an overly choreographed ballet dance like in WWE?

>and like it barely does any damage

Now I know you're trolling, move looks like it could legit kill somebody.
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>>1170185
BUT IT LOOKS LIKE HES FALLING OVER XD
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>>1170184
That he doesnt think he is the guy doesnt mean he doesnt sees him as a decent worker. Still it doesnt stop the hardcores from hating him.
Btw if you think Meltzer overrates every puro guy then you haven't read him.
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>>1170185
>wrestling fans think this is what a real fight looks like
Holy shit
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>>1170070
>I was only pretending to be retarded!
lol
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>>1170184
>Damn, I destroyed you
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>>1170203
Kind of looks like a kick to the back of the head, but a little overtheatrical.
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>>1170224
Maybe if you've never seen a fight in your life, let alone been in one
He's literally on his knees smiling and waiting for the fag to hit him, and leatherman throws the most retarded '''knee''' of all time
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>>1170185
>>1170203
>>1170239
Looks more like an ISIS execution.
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>>1170185
Falling over your opponent like a tard is hardly a powerful looking move.

>legit kill somebody
About as strong and convincing as Mr Socko
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>>1170283
HOLY SHIT DEAN MARK WAS THE ANON WHO GOT THE 1000000 GET
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>>1170053
I'd say he's much better than
punk
taker
dreamer (really? the guy isnt even a good wrestler)
and taz
the rest are arguably better than nakamura
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>>1170012
>He's going to be the Ric Flair of this generation.

But that's a bad thing. A very, very bad thing.
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>>1170317
Punk was a pretty GOAT mix of Mic skills and in ring, Nakamura doesn't even need mic skills so it's a toss up really.

There are different ways of being a great wrestler, you can't directly compare everyone.
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>>1170375
Wrestlemania was Reigns last chance at getting over. Vince now realizes Reigns needs some rebuilding and will probably send him in the U.S title seen for a bit.

They're going to give AJ a quick run with the WWE strap because he is going to retire apparently in 2-3 years.
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>>1170367
Just stop. Punk was good on the mic, biut I wont sit here and pretend he was a great wrestler. He has always been sloppy as fuck.
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>>1170391
The countless great matches he's had prove otherwise.

Wrestling isn't just about hitting moves crisply you big dummy.
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>>1170101
> he thinks charisma = mic skills
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>>1170395
That's why we make the distiction between 'worker' and 'wrestler', casual.
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>>1170396
>I know he's got charisma because, uh, hold on, give me a second
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>>1170410
Define charisma please. I could use a laugh.
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>>1170395
Great matches are highly subjective. When I see him wrestle, I think he ruins the matches with his lack of pulling off moves properly.
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Nah, he's fucking awesome. I don't even like Japanese wrestling or indie wrestling usually.
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>>1170416
>I don't even like Japanese wrestling or indie wrestling usually
Then you dont like pro wrestling it seems. You seem more like a sports entertainment fan.
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>based overrated funaki nakamura
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>>1170411
Well the definition isnt acting like a literal fag afaik
Gookboy even does a little flourish on the ropes, so by your standards Adam Rose is charismatic as fuck
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>>1170418

Sports entertainment is far better than wrestling.
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>>1170483
Well this thread turned to shit pretty quickly.
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>>1170536

18+
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>>1170483
Completely agree, wrestling without entertainment is just fake MMA
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>>1170483
How much is Vince paying you to say that?
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>>1170557
you completely agree with yourself?
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>>1170119
>body language has nothing to do with charisma

wew lad
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>>1170557
Watch Balor vs Samoa Joe from NXT Takeover. It's the perfect middle ground of wrestling and mma.
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>>1170572
Nah i was falling asleep. NxMeme is alk overhyped garbage
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>>1170564
Whatever helps you sleep at night, sadsack
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>>1170443
Still waiting, bruh
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>>1170572

Balor and Joe aren't great. They lack the fundamentals a guy like Triple H or Ryback has.
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>>1170591
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>>1170591
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>>1170589
You can just google it bro, the onus is on you weeaboos to explain why he's charismatic since you're all claiming he is because of his homosexual mannerisms since you can't judge how he talks lel
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>>1169942
Weebs that think a guy that moves around like a faggot and is so bad at wrestling that he actually literally kicks people in the head is "cool"
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>>1170443
>>1170615
> he literally can't
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Why not? His first wwe match was pretty good.
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>>1170621
Google it bro, don't think I haven't noticed that you can't come up with a single counterpoint.
Feels good to win, and this debate wasn't even scripted!
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>>1169942
Weebs
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>>1170635
Why can't you just define charisma? It should be easy for you since you apparently view yourself as an authority on it.
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>>1170641
because you can google it, weird you didn't know that
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>>1170057
The best way is describe him is
>Mick Jagger
>Michael Jackson
>Oldboy
>Shawn Michaels
>all stuffed into the same body
>and that body has hammers instead of knees
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>legit kick people in the back of the head just to be a cunt
>muh strong style
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>>1170652
So how come you haven't done that and answered the question?

Are you that piss-scared?
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Fun fact, he has a 4-1 MMA record, though the people he beat have a combined 3-8 record
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>>1170707
I have, you're just stalling at this point and frankly I love watching you flounder
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>>1170724
Holy shit I hope you're being this ironic on purpose.

Answer the question, lad. You've had hours now. What is your definition of charisma?
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>>1170727
Google it
Maybe google 'shinsuke nakamura charismatic' while you're at it because you haven't been able to put forth any arguments by yourself yet
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>>1170748
Charisma doesn't mean "Google It" silly.
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Natural Charisma, breaks the language barrier, great worker, best striker in a while, and is a legit badass with a 4-1 record in MMA. Dislike him if you wish, but he's still a damn good wrestler.
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>>1170635
>he still literally can't
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>>1170752
>>1170780
I feel a bit like I'm kicking your corpse at this point but if you don't even know what we're talking about you can just google it. Could probs use a dictionary too now that I think about it.
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>>1170800
He knows what you mean by Google it, he wants to know what you call Charisma. How the fuck do you not understand what he's saying?
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>>1170800
Guess you can add "kicking your corpse" to your list of phrases that you clearly don't understand.

> he can't even post a definition
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>>1170808
I'd already slain you but now I'm just mangling what's left
At every turn I have shut you down. It feels good.
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>>1170820
Danth's Law. If you have to say you've won an argument, you've lost. Point goes to >>1170808

This could've been prevented by just posting a definition.
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>the posters in this thread
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>>1170820
I actually feel kind of sorry for you, this is clearly all you've got and you're getting shut out here.

Post definition lad.
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I've seen /enough/ of his Japanese shit to know that he is genuinely talented. I fear that he's just going to end up in midcard hell once he hits the main roster.

He deserves to be WWE Champion at SOME point. I doubt it's going to happen, and if it does well then HEY , awesome!
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>>1170921
He doesn't even speak english, putting him as the face of the company is silly.
A wrestler doesn't automatically deserve the title because you think he's talented, there's more elements at play.
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>>1170928
> He doesn't even speak english

And the current WWE Champion does?

Winning the WWE Title doesn't equal "Face of the Company" lad.
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>>1170698
i wonder how many concussions he'll cause in nxt
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>>1170611

18+
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>>1170930
Yeah it does, 'lad'
I'm not trying to shit on Sasuke but I can't think of a single good reason to give him the title
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>>1170945
> parroting Authority promos

Quit being a fuckin' mark.

Nakamura is over, can work, is something radically different for WWE and would surely garner some attention.

I mean they put the belt on Alberto for a Mexican tour, why not put the belt on Nakamura for the Japanese one?
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>>1170012
where does this meme that his english is good come from?

he literally has funaki with him as his translator

yoshi-tatsu's english is better
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Nakamura is the greatest Japanese wrestler of the last decade. It remains to be seen what he can do in WWE. He got here without having to speak any english, and has put on insanely entertaining matches at least by Japanese standards. Every wrestling expert and pro wrestler will agree with this. Neckbeard fedora edgemasters need not apply.

And while we're on the topic, I guess nobody here knows what the term "bomaye" means, but I suggest you watch some Muhammad Ali.
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>>1170964
>where does this meme that his english is good come from?

Probably from people who'd actually seen him before last month
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who else /listentohisthemeonrepeat/ here? why is it so fucking good? his entrance makes it even better too holy shit this is legitimately the only guy wwe has signed in a long time i'm hyped for, please don't ruin him vince.
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>>1170967
>bomaye(old name)= kill him
>kinshasa(new name)= where the fight took place
This was talked about in a lot of threads already senpai
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>>1170971
give me an example of nakamura speaking english ever, other than his wwe videos

the most english he ever uses is one or two words
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OP here:

This thread has surprised me. I never would have expected to see a thread on /asp/ getting this many frequent replies on a non monday or sunday. Looks like I really pissed a lot of you guys off haha.
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>>1170983
12:12

www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI3cuz9qN60

And this was years ago.
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>>1170986
>looks like i really pissed a lot of you guys off
t. Mong that didn't even read the thread
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>>1170988
o-oh, well i'll be damned

sorry for being a bully, i tried to find a video of him speaking english a few months ago and never found one

a MVP interview would be the last place to look
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>>1171009
MVP had a pretty solid run in NJPW a few years back, he was the first-ever IWGP Intercontinental Champion.
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>It took exactly 0 seconds for Shinsuke Nakamura to become the most charismatic star in the entire company
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>>1171018
>tfw i love michael jackson
>i like a lot if shit that comes out of japan
>fucking love stiff wrestling
>this nigga comes along
>instantly become a mark for him
Based Swagsuke is gonna be the best Intercontinental champion since HBK.
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I've really tried to get behind Nakamura but I just can't help but hate him, I hate his goofy facial expressions, his flailing arms and weird hand gestures, his Michael Jackson wannabe look, his crappy pigeon English promos and everybody is supposed to love him because he throws stiff kicks?!?! Sorry but I just don't see why everybody loves this guy!
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Shinsuke is an upper mid card at best.

Can't wait for the smarks to cry about him getting buried by roman
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>>1171032
you don't HAVE to like him if you don't want to

don't fall for the peer-pressure!
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>>1171032
That's nice to know
>>1171033
Why would they when he wasn't even too guy in Japan? He was the heart of their midcard making the Intercontinental belt a legit, important belt. That's what I want him to do in WWE.
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>>1171033
If we're grading on a curve, that makes Reigns an undercard jabroni.
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>>1171032
>I WANT TO GET BEHIND HIM BECAUSE EVERY OTHER SMARK LIKES HIM

I have a general feelings most IWC people are like this because they don't want to be left out just like how they are in the real world.
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>>1171032
I just dont understand what it is that everybody thinks is so great about the guy

>>1171043
Get fucked faggot
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>>1171045
>>1171043
upper mid card is where deanetty is, i know you faggots don't want that for your jap hero
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>>1171047
>I have a general feelings most IWC people are like this because they don't want to be left out just like how they are in the real world.

I bet you shill for Reigns without any hint of irony.
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>>1171049
>getting triggered by differing opinions
kek
>>1171051
>losing to top guys and beating everyone else
I don't see the problem
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>>1171055
aww did i hurt your little feelings?

Nah, reigns is shitty too.
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>>1171057
>losing to top guys and beating everyone else

You don't but you aren't the majority of smarks
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>>1171059
>aww did i hurt your little feelings?

Not even in your dreams, honeybun.

Tell us all some wrestlers you like, then.
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>>1171062
>Not even in your dreams, honeybun.
hahahahah, don't lie your feelings got hurt, that's the reason why you gave me a (You) automatically thought i was a reigns fan
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>>1171051
What these NXTcucks don't get is that not every single guy on that roster is going to be WWE world heavyweight champion. Hell some won't even make it on the roster. This same shit has been a reality since wrestling began. There hasn't even been 50 different champions.
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>>1171067
> dodging the question

>>>/trash/
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>only seen 3 of his matches
>im already a mark for him
>havent been a mark for anyone since eddie and hbk
Lads I think I can finally enjoy WWE as a mark again
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>>1171069
Who has ever said that EVERYONE will be WWE World Champion?

Who?
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>>1171072
i can play that game too lonely boy
>>>/lgbt/
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>>1171075
I never said that. However you often see these smarks seeming to want every single fucker to become world champion. Wrestling orginizations have always ALWAYS tried to be careful as possible with who they give their title.

I mean take what I said and then realize people like Miz has held that title. Then you begin to realize that giving the title to just anyone isn't the smartest idea.

Shinsuke will never be world champion. Therefore pissing off the majority of his fanbase. Smarks constantly whine and complain how THEIR guy doesn't have the belt. It's annoying
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>>1171075
every IWC community
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>>1171028
>tfw when's also a Freddie Mercury mark

He should do this at a Takeover desu
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Klr5z0hoP04
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>>1171079
Too bad you can't play the "answering the question" game
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>>1171086
Oh, that nebulous "everybody" boogeyman. Right then.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJjZM5zFGuA

Never thought they'd be able to out do "Subconscious" but this theme makes me so happy lads.
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>>1171090
to bad your a lonely cuck boy, that is upset because i struck a nerve
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>>1171094
no, it's a

a person the smarks like loses one match
>LOL BURIED!!

example: Aj styles, Kevin Owens, Wyatt family (they are actually buried though), cesaro, ziggler, tyler breeze (got this from wrestling fourms) and finn balor soon
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>>1171110
> going to WrestlingForum

And here's where anybody stopped taking you seriously

> implying that Breeze hasn't been fukken buried nine circles beneath the Earth
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>>1171106
This doesn't even deserve to be called bants. You're embarrassing yourself.

> he still can't answer
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>>1171114
well i can't give you a answer like this if i just stay in "4chan is my personal blog"
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>>1171110
Saying a person is buried/a jobber after losing is a meme m8
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>>1171116
Lonely boy so sad he knows it's true and is trying his hardest to give him my favorite wrestlers LMAO
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>>1171125
maybe here, but not everywhere else
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>>1169942

Autistic japanese guy that isn't a midget and has an entertaining wrestling style. Nice theme also.
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>>1171126
> he thinks dodging the question is doing anything but making him cuck himself

Done paying attention to you, lad. Hope you enjoyed that validation because it's prolly the highpoint of your week.
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>there are people that dont love stiff wrestling
I thought Zayn was going to legitimately get knocked out at one point in their match. Nakamura vs Sheamus will be fucking brutal if it ever happens. Nakamura vs Bryan would've been one of the best WWE matches in history
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>>1171137
hey lonley cuck boy how's life being alone and the only conversaion you get is with me for telling you how shitty your life is LOL
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Celestials don't draw any money in the USA because of bigots
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>>1171143
Oh don't worry there friend, every pro wrestling fan likes it stiff
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>>1171143
stiff wrestling only cool if you're a indy darling

people hate roidback even tho he's stiff as fuck
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>>1171143
Yeah no, wrestling is fake for a reason. There's nothing admirable about deathmatches, full-force strikes or headdrops.
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>>1171236
Ryback isn't stiff on purpose, tho. He's just reckless.

> indy darling

Sure explains why everybody loves Sheamus going stiff AF.
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>>1171143
>yfw Nakamura vs current stiff Brock

o-oh my
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>>1171241
there both the same thing dumb autist fuck
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>>1171236
Stiff wrestling is okay when both men agree to it.

Roidback randomly stiffs people, on the other hand
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>>1171247
they're both the same shit dumb nigger, both are going to hurt.

jesus christ you mandramas are retarded.

i'm literally going to stop watching wrestling because i don't want to be next to you lonely virgins
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>>1171236
I mentioned Sheamus in my post so your point is already bullshit m8
>>1171237
>thinking working stiff is dangerous
You can't be this stupid.
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>>1171245
>being this new
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>>1171255
>I mentioned Sheamus in my post so your point is already bullshit m8
no, you're just fucking stupid and think your right because you like sheamus.

NO ONE GIVES A SHIT ABOUT SHEAMUS
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>>1171245
> it's the autist niggerposter

Can you contain your stupidity to one thread?
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>>1171236
Rybotch is complete shit though
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>>1170988
>Okada can speak and understand english too
pretty based
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>>1171258
>being this autistic

>>1171263
he is but he's stiff as fuck which makes him good dumb nigger
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>>1171260
> this fecalposting moron is THIS autistic

I can't wait for Janny to clean you up
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>>1171255
Dave's going on about how the schedule and style of NJPW is taking a severe toll on their workers all the time
Sorry but if I wanted my rasslin to look real I'd watch my old Pancrase tapes
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>>1171245
>>1171254
>>1171260
You were just shitting up the Damien Sandow thread, just how pathetic are you friend?
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>>1171267
Yes, i know you are autistic lad
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>>1171273
what?
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>>1171271
>meltzer
intothetrashyourpostgoes.jpg
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>>1171273
Report him, he'll get banned from here too within a matter of days
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>>1171271
>meltzer
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>>1171280
>report everything that goes against my views of things
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>>1171278
>>1171285
Don't know why you'd ignore the closest thing to a legit news source wrestling has, especially when this is something he's reported and not 'Well they're gonna do this but plans change :^) "
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>>1171069
>There hasn't even been 50 different champions
wiki says there have been exactly 125 chamions
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>>1170967
I don't agree, there's loads of guys who are monstrously good. Nakamura is lazy sometimes, I agree with that. Sometimes he does phone it in. But it's kinda splitting hairs to debate how good he is, that's missing the point, the point is he worked hard af to get as over as he has and build his fan base and he capable of extremely good matches.

My only complaint about him is how much he's toned down the bomaye recently, I can see why people would say it looks average if they didn't see him full fucking cane Minoru or Makabe in the face with it like he did when he first broke it out or during that G1 climax. But I would expect that in WWE anyway so w/e.
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>>1171296
Maybe because almost the entire roster works stiff there and have been for a long time? There are also people in WWE that have been working stiff for a long time and are fine. Not everyone is a Daniel Bryan but even he survived over 15 years of it.
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>>1171296
He needs to feel smarter than he is, even though Papa Meltz has been reporting on wrestling since before he was even a glint in the milkman's eye.
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>>1171296
meltzer sources are shit. I only trust falcon faggot from reddit, but he deleted his account
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>>1171255
Shibata fucking killed someone with an elbow drop. Hope a life is worth le strong style edgemaster
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>>1171306
> trusting a Reddit nobody

Well now we know where you got banned from today
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>>1171298

125 title reigns, but the majority of those are people with multiple runs.
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>>1171305
>hurrr durrr meltzer has watched wrestling longer than you
The state of meltzermarks
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>>1171308
>Well now we know where you got banned from today
he literally predicted everything that happen last raw dumb smark, he also predicted sami returning
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>>1171307
>this freak accident happened so an entire countries wrestling style is dangerous
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>>1171303
and D-Bry has just had his career shut off in hisprime due to a brain injury linked with his long concussion history, jog on you peasant
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>>1171313
Yes, it is because WWE ISN'T JAPAN. THEY DON'T NEED TO KILL THEMSELF OVER A FAKE FIGHT
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>>1171314
>literally addressed that in my post
>you still think mentioning it makes you right
Retarded inbred island monkey please go
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>>1171313
Well you can ignore all my evidence but you aint got shit
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>>1171313

Incidents like that aren't super common, but they happen a lot more often than in the US. If you added up all the wrestlers who died from bumping (including dojo trainees) you'd probably average about one or two per year since the late 80s.
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>>1171318
Yeah, Japan's THE GUY is actually over and can work
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>>1171319
>I can greentext too
Bringing it up already doesn't stop it from counting
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>>1171320
>one random freak accident is evidence
If you're that retarded I guess WWE's style is dangerous as fuck since D'Lo paralysed someone
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>>1171322
well shit he's killing his fucking self for sub humans.

if didn't get over for literally killing myself i would be pissed too
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>>1171321
>including untrained kids
Really senpai?
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>>1171329
> for sub humans

I didn't know you watched puro
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>>1171330

By the time the dojo trainees are taking actual high risk moves (as opposed to just learning the breakfalls without someone throwing them around or taking the basic bumps) they're not untrained. Its not like they're taking tiger suplexes on their first day in the ring.
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>>1171331
i don't know what puro is
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>>1171307
>Things that didn't happen: The Post
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>>1171337

2000 Young Lions cup against Fukuda.
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>>1171318
Too bad more WWE workers die each year than all of Japan's promotions combined.

Bumps are the worst shit. Not stiff lariats or safe af elbow strikes that are solid but doesn't cause any head movement. And WWE guys bump way more than guys in other promotions due to that schedule, which is worse than a match of face slapping and 2 neck drops followed by a week off to rest; instead of getting superplexed during a double down spot at WWE house shows and takings 4 times a week.

Sorry but due to WWEs schedule and the amount of pointless bumps those guys take which get no crowd reaction, WWE is easily the most dangerous promotional style. And that's before you factor in all the Coke badly cycled roids, etc. everyone in Japan is on roads but they can at least do it properly with reasonable breaks because they're not on the road all year.
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>>1171326
Yeah and WWE has made a concerted effort to be safer, not NJPW though
>>1171337
Google it my man, it's nuts. Katsuyori Shibata is a failed MMA fighter that works extra stiff to get himself over, it's gay as fuck
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>>1171344
>bullshit drug tests when quite a few guys are clearly still on roids or some other drug
>literally have everyone constantly travelling and wrestling 4 times a week
>currently in one of the worst injury crisis' in wwe history
Yeah they care so much for their employees it's so safe
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>>1171342
>despite the actual style being markedly safer, maybe i can start ranting about schedules, roids and coke and escape this argument without feeling silly
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>>1171342
Thats because old timers were on drugs and bad shit.

But i agree i would rather kill my self once a week than not try to injure myself 4 days a week like in the wwe
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>>1171348
We were talking about in-ring styles remember? Keep on track, you're reaching hard and your arms seem very sore
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>>1171353
>shit loads of people getting injured in-ring has nothing to do with wwe's wrestling
wew lad please just fuck off
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>cesaro vs nakamura stiff fest
Muh dick
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>>1171357
Getting a hard on while watching two guys wrestle is pretty gay
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>>1171363
Taking something literally when it's obviously not meant like that is a sign of autism.
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>>1171355
I get it, you like your wrestling to look real but please stop pretending puro is harmless and ignoring all the evidence people ITT have put forward.
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>>1171367
What is puro?

Backyard wrassling?
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>>1171367
>completely ignore my post instead of just admitting you were wrong
You're a faggot, kys.
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>>1169966
he's more over than funaki ever was. try harder.

>>1169974
it's a knee.

>>1169972
>Giving a shit about Meltz.

>>1170053
Go back to booking HOH, Tommy. Taz was over in the bingo hall and with Angle, but maybe you could try booking him strong again.

>>1170070
"I purposefully named him to.." filters to "haha jokes on you i was only pretending to be retarded"

>>1170094
>>1170121
My niggers.

>>1170162
You mean like an FU or a Rock Bottom for example?

>>1170174
this.

>>1170931
fucking few because he's a PRO with years of experience. just because he's in NXT doesn't mean he's babby tier. he's there to keep the brand warm and to learn the way wwe run things

>>1171032
the nigga been here a week or two. you make your mind up that quick?

>>1171236
there's a difference between stiff with skill, and just fucking lazy
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>>1171367
>any type of wrestling
>harmless
Dumb mark thinks stiff wrestling is any worse than taking a million bumps a match
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>>1171372
Not really.

Because both actually hurt dumb ass
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>>1170174
>psychology

Stop it
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>>1171378
So does taking suplexes, slams, doing suicide dives, diving off the top rope and pretty much every bump wrestlers take.
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>>1169942
>being retarded
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>>1171380
Yes every wrestling bumps hurt except some hurts more than others
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Top kek le anti smark crowd are pathetic. They are so butthurt at other people watching wrasslin outside wwe and enjoying it. Keep watching your 3 hour shit show and complaining about it.
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>>1171387
But anti smarks complain about it.

It's you smarks are complaining about this shit every week
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>>1171383
How the fuck would you know what hurts the most or does the most long term damage?
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>>1169942
neither
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>>1171393
You're right.

I don't know.

I'm becoming one of these autistic smarks who thinks he knows everything
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>>1171383
>>1171391
Stop trying to type in English
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>>1171398
You forgot your period nigger.
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>>1171402
Oh no
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>>1171406
Oh yes
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>>1171393
as a shitcunt that wrestled indies for 10 years, you'd be surprised what doesn't hurt at first but hurts more through repetition
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>nakamura, styles, and lesner will form a stable
>they are all former champions in japan
>kurt angle will join them
>so will asuka

Or Nakamura will join the League of Nations, and it will turn into some sort of rock band gimmick.
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>>1171331
>puro
"Pro" what?
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>>1171518
>"Pro" what
no puro as in Purofessionoru Resoringu
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