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Is Freyja the protagonist of Delta?
>>144317539
No, the Elysion is the protagonist of Delta.
Such a cute episode. I'm a huge Freyjafag, but I felt bad for Mirage. Miragefags, however, can get BTFO. Same goes for Messnerfags when Arad starts fucking Kaname.
>>144317539
Yes she is
>>144317539
No. It's chuck. That's why people are so butthurt a supporting character like Freyja is stealing all the spotlight. It's not like she's relevant or key to the plot line. Amirite?
When will mirage bullying end?
She is but so is Hayate.
It's sort of a double-protag sort of thing
>>144317763
When the series ends
>>144317634
>The problem here is the writers make mirage an unnecessary role in the love triangle
Not exactly. She helps Freyja to realize her feelings towards Hayate. Freyja feels jealous every time she sees Hayate with Mirage.
>>144317763
>Freyja
>win
Pick none
>>144317694
>>144317746
>Chuck and Elysion
>Not Robert Kino
It's like you guys aren't even watching this show.
>>144317763
I feel sorry for Mirage but she wasn't making any moves at all in the whole show.
Also "My girl isn't winning this show is bad" isn't an argument
>>144317787
>I'm glad it's finally over
You guys are overreacting. So what if Mirage cried because she has a crush on HayaHaya? She still has it better than other Kawamori losers like Ranka, Zessica, Touma or Mykage.
>>144317826
Why do you people keep jumping between "she will win" and "it's not fair that she won't win" every other post?
>>144317826
>he thinks Mirage winning means the bullying is over
That's not how it works.
>>144317880
>HayaHaya
Fuck off Makina.
>>144317787
>implying it will end then
>>144317880
>You guys
Freyjafags overplaying their hand just like three weeks ago and just like three weeks ago nothing will happen
LISTEN TO HIS SONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cUC4qg1O-o
>>144317910
Everyone is allowed to have their own opinion.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_02_[EA738580].mkv_snapshot_16.30_[2016.04.14_02.22.16].png](https://i.imgur.com/LL1xs2b.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 02 [EA738580].mkv snapshot 16.30 [2016.04.14 02.22.16]")
>>144317993
You're in the wrong place for that.
Repost
The problem here is the writers make mirage an unnecessary role in the love triangle. This show is better off without the love triangle seriously. Now i wonder the writer wants us to feel pity towards mirage or just let her suffer as a side character thats all
Can we talk about how the show was like the best gift ever
>>144318065
3 months later and this screenshot still makes me smile.
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 04 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_03.26_[2016.04.24_13.40.21].png](https://i.imgur.com/CQpO0fV.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 04 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 03.26 [2016.04.24 13.40.21]")
>>144318259
>This show is better off without the love triangle seriously
Too bad.
t. gran sponsoro
>>144318309
*snow
>>144317539
Mirage victory will be so sweet. Hayate is gonna swallow her tears and let her peg his asshole.
>>144318259
>This show is better off without the love triangle seriously.
Kawamori thinks so too.
He didn't even want one this time initially. But he said the sponsors told him to. Probably because of Macross tradition
>>144318309
>>144318383
You were right the first time.
There is no preview at the end of episode?
Do we know anything about Mirage's past aside from the obvious stuff that comes with her surname?
The ending music 'God bless you' is so great till the end. The first line of the song which transitions straight into Mirage's scene gave me the feels. This song is great imo because it can be a cheerful song or a sad song depending on the scenario.
Mirage cried in the end, she deserves a hug from me. Stay strong mirage!
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_23.49_[2016.07.17_13.39.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/s5jFeUZ.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 23.49 [2016.07.17 13.39.36]")
>>144318491
There was though.
>>144318543
Why does she make that face when she isn't a cat?
>>144318491
There was
>>144318427
Now thanks to that love triangle it gave fans mixed feelings on who will win and who will lose.
Btw, i rmb kawamori said that the love triangle this time will be different right? I wonder is his love triangle is like what is shown in todays episode.
>>144317763
When she and Hayate are stranded together.
>>144318526
Mirage character is all about being strong and accepting cruelty and injustice of this world. Miragefaggots complain all the time that she didn't get any development, but they forget that she already got some. Remember her issues about being shit and not living to her parent's name? Just like Kaname accepted she will be always behind Freyja and Mikumo, Mirage understood she can't be as good as Hayate and there is nothing really bad about it. That was in episode 12.
Now it's time for her to realize that the same can be applied to love. Sometimes you're just left behind. You need to accept it and move forward on your own. It's something miragefaggets can't understand at all.
>>144318860
Already happened
>>144319146
For at least a week.
Frejya's rune is seen moving towards Hayate's finger. Hayate also felt it, so yea Frejya likes Hayate. Runes don't lie.
Now its up to whether he hesitates or just go for her
>>144319290
Nah, it was the wind moving her hair.
Same with Hayate in the follow up scene.
Isnt it still too early to assume frejya will be with hayate in the end? There are like 10 more episodes left, so i bet something will happen to frejya. Or maybe there will be more development for haya and mira since they are both pilots and fighting in war. For certain shows, romance could happen during cases of war, so this might apply the same here.
With that hearbreaking episode for Mira, i believe it is time for her to stay strong and improve herself and to make change. Who knows, maybe this change actually affects haya as well
>only 10 episodes left
>>144319703
>so i bet something will happen to frejya
Nothing will happen to Freyja, I don't know why people keep bringing up her lifespan and shit. They won't kill their cash cow, they rather have her lose to Mirage than blow her up since they still have movies to sell.
>>144319770
Kidnapped, maybe?
>just watched the raws
HE BLUSHED
ITS OVER
MIRAGE BTFO TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE GALAXY
>>144319703
>frejya will be with hayate in the end
Looking at Kawamori's track record with the Macross franchise, she won't.
>>144318579
What is this face trying to convey?
>>144317539
She is the protagonist of my heart.
>>144319880
Is it the point where we reach Frontier levels of shitposting?
>>144319770
Her dying won't affect the live performances and most are watching with the expectation that she will die. She is killable.
Why is Mirage so fucking ugly?
>>144319880
>HE BLUSHED
>ITS OVER
Impying SDF never exists.
>>144319924
>girl who has a special connection with MC always win
>Freyja has a special connection with Hayate
>Freyja won't win
>>144318427
Between the general ineptitude of the protag faction and the show's favoritism of the bishounen knights, the love triangle is really the only thing worth discussing.
>>144320042
11?
16 episodes out, 10 more to reach 26 episodes full. Is there a math error on your part?
>>144320073
>girl who has a special connection with MC always win
This kinda came out straight out of your ass.
>>144320009
Animators on death bed.
>>144320122
27 episodes if we're going by the number of episodes per disc
>>144319952
Bogue, pls.
>>144320181
Literally waited half a decade for this series
>>144320009
Because Kawamori hates the sponsors.
>>144320190
8 volumes with 3 episodes, last volume with 2 episodes only. This is how it works for every single anime out there.
>>144320274
It's much cheaper than Frontier too.
>>144320252
>tfw Bogue will never love Freyja as much as Minoringo loves Bogue
>>144320353
Good, because he doesn't deserve her.
>>144320417
No one deserves her, she's an angel and too good for this world.
>>144320133
It's a general rule in anime. The girls with the special connections to the MCs always win bro. Idk why you're telling that anon they pulled this shit out of their ass.
Also Hayate realizing he might feel something more fore Freyja while they're under the snow is a huge romantic flag in anime.
But yeah, anyway. Moving on.
>>144320322
I think they usually put the two episodes in the first disc not the last though. I just want to pretend they are going for 27 episodes like the original.
>>144319290
I swear, this is one of the biggest "fuck me now" faces i have ever seen in anime.
>>144319290
Its a Kawamori series so they'll just blush til the last episode when Hayate will pick literally anything else, while Freyja will be stuck as the eternally pure virgin idoru who belongs to all the NEETs of the galaxy.
>>144320812
Shes blushing. Literally the only thing she craves more than Hayate's body is apples.
>>144320353
Maybe she can win the KENN bowl.
The problem with the love triangle is the fans and the shippers. Both are subjecting their feelings onto the characters. Most of the debate is either why Freyja should loose, or why Hayate should win.
In my honest opinion, I don't think this triangle is going to end the way everyone wants it to end, or with anyone winning. Perhaps it's because i'm not a fan of both Freyja and Mirage why I can evaluate what's happening clearly.
Nobody mentions Hayate, or his feelings. Hayate has made it clear, that if he likes someone he won't waste anytime and will tell them. Mirage even asked Hayate if he liked Freyja this episode, and he said no. Another problem is, everyone is automatically assuming Hayate's feelings for love. It's quite obvious that Freyja has feelings for Hayate, and Mirages feeling are also becoming more apparent. However Hayate's interaction with both of them isn't necessarily romantic. He see's both girls as his friend, but two very different and distinct friendships.
This triangle is leaning towards nobody winning. Mirage and Hayate will not be involved romantically at the end because she needs to find self worth first. I also don't trust the push with Freyja and Hayate, because Freyja is being built for something more.
This triangle cannot be compared with Frontier in any shape/form. The characters and circumstances are way too different.
>>144317878
>her smile and optimism: gone
>>144321028
Don't forget to update kumo's
FINALLY. A new OP, and it's so much better than the first.So much Pink Monsoon vibes.
>>144320322
>>144320710
To my best understanding, they've changed it such that Macross after the airing of Frontier, will follow the number of episodes based on the anniversary number.
Frontier had 25, for it's 25th Anniversary. Delta will have 26. It's successor will have 27 and so on.
And since the series succeeds itself every 8 years, that's plenty of time to develop the studios to push up to 30 episodes for a series.
>>144317809
She helped Hayate realize his feelings too.
>>144319290
>that scene
>>144320982
You can make the case he is really starting to become aware of Freyja as shown this past episode during the snow scene.
>>144318953
Mirage has no point other than suffering until now.
>>144321982
>Mirage's face
>>144321982
That should secure her victory tho.
>>144317539
>you will never have mikumo sing for you just to take your mind off something bad going on
remind me why live again
>>144318953
Nice blog, anon. I like how you have to perform these kinds of mental gymnastics just do convince yourself that best girl isn't going to win. Whatever is takes, right?
>>144322182
You can download the album and have Mikumo sing on your phone at any time.
>>144321891
He can become aware, but plenty of Kawamori male protags become aware only to go for the other option or even a third option.
>>144319290
HOW DOES SHE DO IT?
>>144322443
>but plenty of Kawamori male protags become aware only to go for the other option or even a third option.
Like whom?
Find yourself a boy who looks at you like Hayate looks at Freyja
>>144322443
When?
Don't fucking say Alto
>>144320982
>Nobody mentions Hayate, or his feelings.
I was the one like "HOLY SHIT, HAYATE REACTED TO A GIRL" when he blushed at Freyja
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC)00_22_00.360.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/4zdRkQv.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC)00 22 00.360")
Fucking Arad
>>144323002
You and me both /a/non, it was pretty hype
>>144323149
I really like the "let's just draw the eyes however the fuck we want whenever we want" approach. Looks pretty sweet.
>>144320982
I'm shipping for Mikumo to win.
I bet Mikumo will develop a bond with Hayate in the last 3 episodes and she will win.
>>144323289
Would be quite hilarious.
You know it's pretty cute if all windermereans express their love with their shining runes gravitating towards each other. Pretty romantic imo.
Now I want a rune in the shape of the middle finger on my head.
>>144323289
>its a broken triangle because Mikumo takes what she wants, when she wants to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xs9vQJIHp9k
i lost it when they started making up lines while watching from a distance
Where are all those faggots who said that the song from the next single will be the last new song in Delta? We just got a completely different son in this episode.
>>144323289
>>I'm shipping for Mikumo to win.
You still exist?
Go in your crack corner with the Bogue/Freyja people
>>144324397
We actually got three songs
-A preview of a new song from Freyja in the first half
-Birthday song
-The special ED
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_20.59_[2016.07.17_20.11.04].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/IjVhPxc.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 20.59 [2016.07.17 20.11.04]")
OH SHIT, HE WAS LOOKING AT HER, I DIDN'T NOTICE BEFORE
>>144324114
She even acts like Freyja. 2cute.
Why Kaname likes Arad I will never know. The dude's already in his thirties and has a patch of gray hair. Kaname why. Youre 22 for fucks sake.
>>144324768
She's an old hag, into old men.
>>144324768
Because he's manly as fuck. Wouldn't you?
>>144324768
Doom bitch gotta find a new target
>>144324768
Kaname is a washed up failure filled with broken dreams. It's natural she would seek stability.
>>144324768
He's not a hamburger, and is handsome. Why not.
>>144324828
He also nuked windiggers together with Hayate's dad. Best possible husbando ever.
RATE THE NEW SONGS
>>144324885
NUNSfags please kill yourselves.
>>144324927
runefags plz
![[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_20.06_[2016.07.17_11.18.10].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ASSy0DY.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Macross Delta - 16 (MX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4 snapshot 20.06 [2016.07.17 11.18.10]")
[Read in the voice of Morgan Freeman]
This is a Windermerean mating call
Notice the come hither eyes and natural extending of the rune toward the subject of romantic desire
It is said that when the Windermerean finds it's potential mate, it's rune extends to height levels it was unable to reach before. The Windermerean rune is considered a sexual organ so touching it is considered very forward by outside species. Thus, by naturally having a rune touched or extended, it shows the Windermerean is ready for impregnation
>>144324907
I don't know the names but the new ED one is GOAT. Freyja's voice is beautiful.
WINDNIGGER GENOCIDE SOON
>>144324768
Because he smiles and laughs (and can make her smile and laugh) and is fun to be around during downtime, and can be all business and serious during missiontime.
Because she's worked with him enough to know how he works, and hung out with him enough to know how to lure him in with jellyfish
Because he's a manly bara and maybe she's into that rather than the alternative
>>144325098
NUNSHIT GENOCIDE HAPPENING
>>144324907
Op - 7/10 Despite what people say, I like it alot
New song freya sang - could be anything we only got a snippet but sounds pretty good
ED - 9/10 its great
I must say if Kawamori somehow swerves into Kaname/Arad it would 100% confirm he doesn't give a crap about "muh idol purity".
It was already clear to begin with, but that would definitely a clincher
Reminder that Mirage is Zessica 2.0
>>144324768
She's a woman of fine taste. Older bara men are the best.
>>144325167
Dude you just gave me flashbacks to when I was 22 and head over heels for my 37 year old boss. This is not a trip down memory lane that I wanted to take.
Yeah, ok, I can see where Kaname might be coming from. I have to wonder now if we'll actually get AradKaname. I can't imagine the MesserKaname shippers to be too happy though. Kaname does deserve to be happy with someone else though.
>>144325345
>Zessica 2.0
More like Misa 2.0
>>144325503
Messer is dead, and Kaname didn't even know he was in love with her until he told her. Up to that point, Kaname was so obviously in love with Arad that every single person she works with can see it.
If Messer cucks Arad from beyond the grave it will just be sad.
>>144325667
Nice delusion
>>144325503
I was in the Futakuro Delta thread when the streams were up and they weren't happy.
I don't get why they ship them though, Kaname doesn't give a fuck about Messer.
Freyja is wasted on Hayate. Her genes are too strong.
>>144325503
I would like it if Arad became (part) of her new drive to sing, but that would be yet another deathflag we don't need right now
>>144325736
Well they'll have to accept it sooner or later I guess. Messer's dead, not much he can do when he's a jellyfish now. It's not like Kaname will stay single forever because of him.
I admit I would like to see Kaname getting together with Arad but like in one of the final scenes of episode 26
>Mirage crying
FUCK OFF JAPAN!!
>>144321586
Wishful thinking. It's a two-cour anime, they're nearly always 26 episodes long. Frontier deliberately cut one episode to make it 25, to go with the 25th anniversary. They went to great lengths to get that number in everywhere they could, such as airing it at 25:25 at night (1:25 AM), efforts they're not exerting this time (Delta airs nearly three hours earlier, at 22:30).
It is very likely that any future Macross TV shows will also be 25-26 episodes, unless Kawamori has a *shorter* story to tell. 27 episodes? Someone would have to move heaven and earth to get that cleared due to the havoc it'd wreak on the schedule.
>>144326050
Misa was depressed too when Hikaru threw her under the bus
>>144325872
Will that be Freyja's final legacy to them? Life can be beautiful if we stop rationalizing out why we deny ourselves things that make us happy. It's what happened to Messer, who died heroically but also refused to let himself get even a little bit close to his squad, or the girl he likes. Maybe Kaname and Arad aren't letting themselves get together for some good reasons (work, age, ptsd, etc). Maybe Mirage will start telling herself that she shouldn't get her hopes up about Hayate, but Freyja's parting(?) legacy will be to grab those opportunities before it's too late.
So maybe we'll get an ending where Freyja is lost to the wind (or whatever) , and Hayate and Mirage aren't explicitly endgame... But it's left open-ended enough that it could be, in the future. A "different" triangle.
>>144325047
>you will never kidnap a windie
>you will never tie her up
>you will never rub her rune until she develops Stockholm
i bet there will be some ending like Mikumo uses her Protoculture android powers(or whatever is up with her) to extend Freyja's lifespan and also provides some kind of cure for the shortened windnigger lifespan, saying it's because they were incomplete and the Protoculture was too far gone fighting each other/dead before they could "complete" them(thus blowing all the nationalistic "we are the heirs to the Protoculture" wind nigs out of the water). Then everyone's happy and Freyja and Hayate ride off together while Mirage weeps.
>>144326286
If Freyja is simply lost to the wind, and not explicitly dead, you can get everything that Hayate will spend his life trying to reach her.
>>144326889
aka a sequel hook for a movie or OVA
Is there an English translation of God Bless You yet?
>>144326889
This. The ending foreshadows it. Sara and Shin, but likeable.
>>144317539
>Is Freyja the protagonist of Delta?
In the same way that Lynn Minmay was the protagonist of SDF.
>>144326162
Misa had a relationship with Hikaru unlike Who.
>>144317539
Idols are always the protagonists
Frejya looking so sexy this week
>>144317700
W-we will fight until the end!
>>144318856
This love triangle will be different because finally the kawaii idol will win (avenging Minmay and Ranka).
>>144324768
>patch of gray hair
Isn't that a legit condition?
>>144327939
>because finally the kawaii idol will win
>will win
>implying
>>144326286
>Maybe Mirage will start telling herself that she shouldn't get her hopes up about Hayate, but Freyja's parting(?) legacy will be to grab those opportunities before it's too late. So maybe we'll get an ending where Freyja is lost to the wind (or whatever) , and Hayate and Mirage aren't explicitly endgame... But it's left open-ended enough that it could be, in the future. A "different" triangle.
That's too much of a stretch. Plus it's like we've already said millions of times. Freyja won't die or any of the like at the end of Delta. She's the cash cow. #1 fave.1/2 of the dynamic duo/face of Delta. The Fandom would riot.
Hayate/Freyja ending is pretty much a given at this point. The bias has been strong since like episode 4 when Hayate was all "my duty is to protect her!" Then you have the resonance. Then Hayate being the biggest Freyjafag out of all of us fangirling as soon as Freyja in in the scene. Always looking out for her. Always risking his life for her. Paying attention to everything she does and says. And now Hayate realizing that she's not just a friend and that she's something more.
Thing is Hayate didn't even go "I might like you - teenage crush blush". He went full "I might be in love with you - blush".
The whole intimacy of their interaction while Hayate realizes this is what really pushes things forward.
>>144328000
>Hayate/Freyja ending is pretty much a given at this point.
>Freyjafag being delusional again
>>144328020
Can you prove it otherwise?
>>144328020
Even Mirage has realized it but you can't. Well it's fine. To each their own. Stay faithful to your ship.
>>144323289
I can honestly see this happening. Mikumo x Hayate has more chemistry than Mirage x Hayate. And they have never interacted
>>144328241
>Even Mirage has realized it
>because I said so
How is this show? I've watched Macross since SDF and I've given up hoping the series can get back to that level but I've kept following the series.
I tried watching a few eps of Delta and it's just been terrible. Shit characters, shit music, shit story. Did it get any better?
>>144324114
I wish she would get her teeth fixed.
>>144328273
>Mikumo x Hayate has more chemistry than Mirage x Hayate. And they have never interacted
I can't stop laughing
>>144328366
The triangle is similar to SDF according to our resident /a/ Macross experts.
>>144324683
Their taste in men is also similar.
>>144328301
Chillax bro. At least I can back up my ship with proof and development whereas you Miragefags go deadly silent when we ask you to do the same without your stupid memes.
Anyway, have fun with your ship. I'm gonna go re-watch Hayate seeing Freyja in a new light and blushing because of her and it's going to be glorious. Bye bye.
>>144324768
I have been saying this for ages. Arad was probably the one who inspired Kaname to become an idol, and after she failed recruited her to Chaos, while making their relationship professional.
>>144328496
At the end, I can see a similar development and conclusion.
>>144325294
>New song freya sang - could be anything we only got a snippet but sounds pretty good
Which means its going to be another duet by Freyja and Mikumo until the release solo versions.
Does anybody have the lyrics for it?
It would be interesting if Hayate dies at the end.
>>144326465
It's much more simple than you think , to extend her life , she really just need to mate with hayate in a normal basis ,It's that simple . I don't really see any human and windie coupes or any talks of them . So who's to say it won't work .
>>144325294
I think the new opening song sounds great because all the girls voices go together and it's unique.
I can't put my finger on whose voice makes the ed so great though
>>144328606
>Macross MC
>dying
>>144323130
In Gundam Build Fighters there's the thing where a sexy look gets shot at someone or they are hit by someone's look and the beam magnum shot sound plays.
This is what I heard when I opened this.
PEEWWWW.
Haya-Haya wants to bang Ara-Ara.
>>144326162
Your point? What does Misa have to do with Mirage?
>>144326465
Everyone isn't happy. Why does Mikumo have to give up her life for them?
I honestly hope the lifespan thing remains the same. It's what make them unique
>>144325047
In the beginning touching her rune, is "hey, pervert , you can't do that , wtf."
Now, it's "if it's you it's fine"
>>144328273
The bants are out of control.
>>144328712
Hikaru died right after SDF tho
>>144328301
When Mikumo was lowkey going to be the third main character, but the producers had a change of heart at the last moment.
Worse fucking choice. Can't wait until Kawamori mentions how much he regretted this
Triangle right now.
Freyja-><-Hayate <-Mirage
>>144328571
そっと瞳閉じて 願い事をひとつ
言わないで でもきっと 信じてる
君の胸のアップダウン 感じているよ いつも
見つめ合う この時を忘れない
溢れそうな気持ちの（気持ちの）
急に泣き出したくなるの いつでも（いつでも）
遠ざかる運命の影が 壊さないで
コッドブレスユー
光る風の中で 出会った二人
迷わない もう二度
熱いハート 焦がして 今すぐ
もしかしたら君は全て分かっていたの
ありがとう 傍にいて
見守ってくれた日々に ありがとう
こんなにも誰かを愛せるなんて
知らなかった この想い
戻れるはずなんてないから
こんな世界で たったひとつの幸せ
分かち合う喜びの
溢れそうな 涙の訳も
もしも今 君の胸元に一粒の（？の悲しみ）
落ちてきたとしても
光の矢を放ち（打ち抜こう）
奇跡なら神様 この愛 全てを導いて
>>144329063
Not even the staff takes Mirage seriously. Like I actually feel bad for her.
>>144329063
What's the holdup with Mikumo being part of the original triangle though? They're afraid Freyja will literally turn into Ranka 2.0 out of Mikumo's sheer perfection?
So now they've added a Jenius to pit loser against loser.
>>144329092
Now can you please translate anon~kun
>>144324768
Chicks dig big guys.
>>144328496
Shit, I just realized Bogue/Freyja is the Kagura/Mikono of Delta. Now everything makes sense. No wonder the ship is so popular
>>144329063
Mikumo wants the freyjabowl.
>>144329136
Mikumo would give 0 fucks about being in the triangle. She's above romantic drama. Also people need to shut up about Freyja being Ranka 2.0. They have nothing in common.
>>144329210
>Bogue/Freyja
You mean Heinz/Freyja
Bogue will not die like Cassim, Herman, Roid, Keith and the twins but he will pay the price of serving the girl he absolutely hated
>>144328273
Mikumo x Freyja x Hayate end. Fuck Mirage.
>>144329136
Because it thematically doesn't make any sense. What Kawamori really wanted to approach was the theme of having not much time to live and how to live with it. Throwing Mikumo into a love triangle would only distort it.
>>144329136
It's actually more complicated than that and has to do with marketing. If it was Mikumo-Hayate-Freyja, one of the idols would have been hurt in sales. Just like how Ranka's CD's didn't sell much/she was the least marketable one.
By splitting Freyja and Mikumo apart they can milk both girls equally since fans won't rival over triangle shit. Both girls are liked since Freyja gets the spotlight in show, and Mikumo can clearly carry her popularity herself on her own with just raw character design.
Mirage needed the extra help, and it's not working They should have just stick with Mikumo for the main character though, even if she isn't apart of the bowl.
Heck, people would enjoy the show more if Mikumo was apart of the triangle, Freyja still getting the same development she is now and clearly winning. While just having Mikumo doing fun flirting until Freyja wins. Nobody actually wants Mikumo to win, we would just rather have a character who would be more fun and interesting to watch.
Mikumo is a better character, and has more development than Mirage and she's a fucking secondary character and shinpi. SHE IS FUCKING SHINPI LIKE WTF MIRAGE. HOW CAN U LOOSE TO SOMEONE WHOSE CHARACTER IS SHINPI
Subs when
>>144329376
>What Kawamori really wanted to approach was the theme of having not much time to live and how to live with it. Throwing Mikumo into a love triangle would only distort it.
How exactly would she do this? Mirage has a longer life-span than both Freyja and Hayate since she is a zent.
In fact it would further amplify the theme since its obvious both Mikumo and Freyja are going to die in the end.
>>144329404
>its Mirage's fault that she's being sidelined to a character originally penned to be a main character
>he thinks Freyja will win against Mikumo
>>144328084
It's funny because they are pushing Mikumo's figure like crazy. Everyday their is numerous tweets by various companies about it.
>>144329136
Zero. KAWAMORI DID NOT WANTED A TRIANGLE FOR DELTA. Basis was singers buff their pilots bf (already explored slightly in zero and frontier). Hayate and Freyja were the main pair from the start, but Hayate was different (he was sullen and taciturn).
>>144329520
It's not Mirages fault. They should have just stuck with Mikumo over her.
Freyja won't win, Mikumo just wouldn't care. She was just doing it all for the fun, so Freyja wins
>>144329597
>Hayate and Mirage were the last characters to be added
>NO MY HAYAFRE IS THE OTP
Silly Anon being a magazine gospel thumper works both ways
>>144329136
Freyja blows Mikumo out in popularity. Even kaname beat her.
>>144329597
Really? How do you know Hayate and Freyja were matched from the start? Because Hayate was literally the second to last character established. Not being apart of the love triangle is fine, but it's clear she was intended to be the third main character.
Mirage could have been apart of the bowl, and remained a secondary character like her presence.
Freyfrey really needs to drop that Hayate zero and get with the Mikumo hero.
>>144329694
Hayate was ALWAYS the mc. His personality was more like a shoujo lead guy. Mirage was indeed added later. There were no female pilots in that prototype.
>>144329510
From the perspective of a love triangle, the viewer's attention is going to be diverted into the mystery of who Mikumo is, rather than living life to the fullest. If they force the short life on Mikumo also, that really would just be repeating the same thing that they did with Sheryl.
With Mirage though, there is this triangle of species with different life expectancies.
Hayate, with a normal life span, Mirage who can live much longer but seems to be wasting her time worrying about her complexes, and Freyja. My own guess is that what will happen to Freyja later, rather than Hayate, is what will cause Mirage to change.
>>144327939
That's the only thing that will never happen.
Only Sheryl made the impossible, possible. Nobody else will do it ever again.
>>144329937
> kawaii idol
Emphasis on kawaii. Sheryl is pure sex.
>>144329714
Freyja would have been a shit character and a waste of screen time, and main character if she didn't place above a secondary character on a popularity poll.
The same for Kaname. If she had placed below Mikumo after her two episode moment, it would have been a waste to have even written her in them. They might has well had given then screen time to help out main character status Mirage who ranked below secondary characters.
As much as you guys try to defend it, Mirage is a joke. Like she genuinely has nothing going for her. Her story arc is so generic, which is weird because this is Macross so nobody's story should be generic.
>>144329937
Sara Nome was a singer. In case you did not notice, Kawamori is an idolfag. In hus POV, Hikaru lost for being unworthy of Minmay, and was given sloppy seconds old hag.
I remember the first ep I was really pumped for Mirage. Wow wow! Strong female pilot! Who doesn't take shit from anyone! Girl power!!!
16 episodes later and I'm still "this is it?"
Going dere-dere and crying because you want a guys dick is not character development.
>>144329714
Doesnt matter. Mikumo wins in love against anyone in Delta. She's a Sheryl after all.
>>144330087
Kawamori is a fag, period.
>>144330151
Exactly! Like why are you crying? Get it together, other characters have bigger things to worry about, and she's crying over some dumb boy. I'm so baffled by what they are trying to do with her. Mirage is such a beautiful girl, and has a nifty personality. However this triangle is hurting her, and she's hurting herself. Her scenario in regards to being apart of the main character group, and triangle is poorly written.
It's also because they are forcing themselves to write her. I was so hype for Mirage, go back and check the archives everyone was on the Mirage train
>>144329192
4 u
I hope that with this the triangle bullshit ends early and Mirage decides to support them from the sidelines while finally unlocking her skills as a leader and a pilot.
But that's not going to happen is it?
Freyja is Sheryl, who cries and mourns over important shit. Mirage is Ranka, crying over a boy.
>>144329937
Sara Nome is a singer too
The only correct statement you made is Freyja will never win
>>144328606
Alto died in the movies
>>144330704
I think it could. Could be why Kawamori refers to it as pale. Maybe it's because it'll be resolved early and we can move on to more important things.
>>144330442
>everyone was on the Mirage train
All the bandwagoners will be back once she wins.
>>144330826
Bro didn't you hear? Sheryl wakes up and he comes back.
>>144330704
>Freyjafag scared that he wants early resolution because the longer it drags on the shittier it gets for his ship
>>144330826
He folded.
>>144330850
Proof pointing towards her winning that doesn't have to do with memes? Give me facts on Mirage's romantic merits on the past 16 episodes
>>144329304
>of serving the girl he absolutely hated
Hot. Freyja and Bogue will have their own adventures. It's pretty obvious that Heinz can't satisfy a woman like her.
>>144330087
>Minmayfag delusions
2 decades later and you're still buttravaged
Go on, harp on that """silver medal""" meme
>>144330901
Piss off, what I want if for Mirage to get decent development as a change. Her piloting hasn't improved, there's no plot relating to how she's doing in her new position, and all she does as part of the triangle is act like a hesitant third wheel which does her character no favors. Mirage the ace needs to happen.
>>144330087
>>144331018
He's right, up the end Hikaru was about not being a man suited for Minmay, which just went to show how shit he is because Misa is top-tier in every way except for her taste in men.
>SHE HAS NO CHANCE
>SHE GOT DUMPED ON THE SAME DAY
>>144330850
You really think so? You need to watch more love triangles. Majority of the fans would cancel their Blu-ray, concerts would be canceled. Fans go crazy when the girl they want doesn't win, and Delta can't afford to not make any profits. You can't compare older series to new ones. The generation of fans are crazy, and when things don't go the way the want, they stop the support. Tadatoshi Fujimaki is in hiding, he can't show up at events, and they cancel majority of his events. He gets death threats from left to right. This is Japan we are talking about, and nips are crazy
>>144331183
>overreacting
>thinking Japanese fans are that petty
>>144330704
That will never happen, sadly
Mirage will be another consolation prize. With the difference that, unlike Misa, she is shit and has a disgusting pair of elf ears.
>>144331183
>death threats
All from one fan.
>>144331323
>Freyjafag pre-emptive damage control
>>144331183
What did he do ?
>>144331429
The guy you're replying to doesn't really have a basic understanding of anything that's happening and I would never trust someone who says "the nips are..." but here's the link.
http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/man-gets-4-12-years-over-threats-to-kurokos-basketball-manga-author
The difference here is Hayate's not just blushing because of an awkward or accidentally lewd situation. He has a moment of realization in the middle of a very tender scene, combined with how he's already a gigantic Freyjafag who constantly thinks about her and worked very hard to give her a present that would make her happy. And he never really paid attention to anyone else. The scene doesn't read as a hint the he has a crush, like the first time Freyja blushed, but a full-blown "holy shit I might be in love."
>>144331490
>When asked why he held a grudge against Fujimaki and/or “Kuroko no Basuke”, Watanabe reportedly said that he never met the manga artist but “was jealous of his success.” This was also alluded to in a letter to the Mainichi Shimbun which read, “Fujimaki who lived a blessed life, and I who have never experienced anyone’s love.”
>>144331490
Holy shit kek
SUBS WHEN
>>144331536
Yes! Exactly what I said a few posts back. The way Hayate's realization played out wasn't "I might like her" it was "I might be in love with her". We all already knew how special Freyja was to him. IMO his feelings turning to love was a ticking time bomb.
>>144324768
>Kaname likes Arad
This meme again?
>>144331688
Wednesday
>>144331857
Shit I wonder how Cero's doing?
>>144331956
Still in denial
>Hayate points out her rune is glowing
>Up until this point, every single time he's said something of the sort she's called him a pervert or whatever so this is what the viewer expects
>instead, this happens
Yes, this was pretty good directing.
>Freyja likes Hayate
This meme needs to stop.
Maybe they might change the story abit if Mirage's popularity really do increase due to this episode. I think this episode is sort of like a survey to see how fans react to the characters? I mean, certain directors of an anime are actually very particular with tweets and take fan's opinions into consideration
>>144332174
>he thinks directing anime changes on the fly
How naive anon, do you realize that they are usually 3-4 episodes ahead whenever the new one shows up weekly?
>>144332174
A month or more ago they were already done up to episode 22. By now I wouldn't be surprised if they're doing the final animation touches on the final 4 episodes before the VA's record them.
They already have the whole story planned out. You can't just change a script on a whim. What's done is done.
>>144330151
Her character development is acknowledging and accepting that she cannot become what people expect her to be no matter how hard she tries, and begins to broaden her horizons to see life as more than just piloting, hence, developing interpersonal relationships and falling in love.
But you "girl power" viewers probably don't notice, since "character development" isn't what you are truly after.
>>144332137
You are the one who needs to stop the Bogue/Freyja meme. Just look how horny she is.
>>144331894
What? Are you pulled this out from your ass?
1) Why not release 2 special episodes on 2 different endings? Isnt that fair enough for both mira and frejya fans? I think this will benefit sales even better.
2) on certain war shows, it is possible for comradeship to develop into a lover relationship. This depends on how it is written. Sometimes friction among superiors amd subordinate can lead to love relationship. Or the other thing will be to sacrifice mirage next episode. Example, mirage saves frejya, ends up getting shot down and her last words are maybe 'i love you' then proceeds to faint or fake explosion. Then this will probably help hayate realize that Mirage loves him and maybe reconsider his methods of dealing with them. I dont mind if mirage loses, i just want mirage to have a fair responds from hayate after confirming his feelings. That is how a triangle should be. Heck even in the movies, it is clear that alto provides a clear answer for rejecting ranka and choses sheryl. Lets hope this sort of thing will happen so mirage fans will stay calm and accept it
Been Mirage is suffering ;_;
>>144332518
I think she in the end of the series, they will show mirage quit Xaos and maybe become something else other than piloting?
>>144332853
I'd love to see that happening
but never ever
>>144332885
So do you think there is a chance for mirage to win the triangle?
>>144332762
>falseflagging Freyjafag
>>144332934
No
>>144333002
here's to (you)
>>144332518
Everyone has seen that, and nobody is denying that. It's literally the only thing she has going for her though. That story arc is stagnant. Both Freyja and Hayate are hit with new scenarios, and development time after time. Something the actually develop and grow from within that episode. Mirage has been doing the same thing for 16 episode, its repetitive and boring.
If Mirage truly watches Hayate and Freyja she would have realized that her problems aren't real problems. Freyja is breaking the rules of Winderemere and becoming what she wants to be. Hayate has numerous situations Mirage can learn from too, such as understanding he needs to grow and discipline himself. In fact, I'm pretty positive that when the Hayate-Dad drama happens, he'll get over it that very same episode.
The writers just genuinely have nothing else to do with her
>>144333081
>The writers just genuinely have nothing else to do with her
Except to develop her character
>>144333002
>>144332934
>>144332762
This episode was so sad. Like I actually cried tears. Why would they waste screen time, writing, and merchandise on Mirage? Why would they create such a futile character?
Literally Mirage exists to make Hayate aware of his feelings for Freyja. At first, when Mirage asked Hayate about his feelings for Freyja, and he responded with a "no", I was happy because I felt as though Mirage finally had a fighting chance. But then the episode progressed, and so did Hataye and Freyja's relationship.
Until now poking her rune was just some meaningless teasing. Now things are changing. After Mirage questioned him about his feelings for Freyja, he started to realize there might be more to his relationship with her than he thought. With all that in his mind, touching her rune isn't the same thing anymore.
>>144333185
Which they can't do, because if the develop her tiny story arc now, she'd literally have no other purpose than triangle filler. Therefore they are stuck, holding off her development, because that's all she's got.
I guess having mirage in the love triangle makes no sense. A character who is expected to be part of the love triangle end up having the least development? Bullshit! I think it's better to make mirage a side character rather than making her part of the triangle.
Besides, an anime that is made based on fans taste is also bullshit.
>>144333281
He didn't clearly said "No, I'm not into that bitch.", he said that it's not right to call her friend maybe she's something more than friend that he can't explain and Mirage said that she thinks that kind of feeling and relationship can turn into love.
There's probably going to be character development for Mirage later on. Like we still don't even know who Lady M is and it's very possible that's one of the Jenius' again in which case all focus will be on the only other Jenius of the show.
In this ep we saw that Mirage realizes what her own feelings are as much as she pushed Hayate to realize his own feelings. Which honestly, I don't think he's realized any feelings yet or if he has any feelings whatsoever, being too embroiled with the issues about with his dad at the moment.
That said, this episode was a hammer to the heart for me, I didn't realize I cared so much for these characters until just now.
>>144333281
Everything about this episode was bittersweet or just completely sad from Freyja talking about how she sang despite the hard times on post-war Windermere, Mikumo off-handedly mentioning how she can't remember a single birthday celebration of her own and she stopped by not just to sing Freyja happy birthday but to see what it was like, the hesitation and tension between Kaname and Arad, and the big hit was Mirage.
I'm expecting a huge hit next episode. Something bad will happen and we'll all hurt for it.
Why do people still use "because sponsors" to defend about how they write Mirage's character?
1.They don't have to create a character that purely for triangle.
2.Actually it looks like Mirage is getting her personal development(i say personal, not romance), so no i'm not complaining, i'm saying everyone should wait and see, if few weeks later she end getting zero development, then you guys can complain again, but not now.
>>144333608
>or if he has any feelings whatsoever
Did you watch the episode? He was feeling it alright.
>>144333702
I'm still not convinced. I may be as dense as he is.
>>144333347
It sounds like this is the problem of this show, not Mirage.
They don't want Mirage win, so they don't give her anything related to the main plot, and now they're facing that should still give Mirage some time to development or keep bully her by ignoring her.
>>144333724
It's not like he blushes because he's accidentally stuck in a locker room and his phone makes Freyja moan lewdly in his ear. He blushed in a tender moment, because of her face, stares at her fondly for minutes, and is suddenly hesitant when before he was never self-conscious when it came to Freyja. After Mirage asks him what he really feels and he doesn't just dismiss her as a friend. There are so many romantic boxes ticked.
>>144333908
>first kaname now mirage
Trully red is the new green
>>144333081
>its repetitive and boring.
Not, it just nothing, and it's writer's fault that they don't write anything for her, not Mirage or any other character's fault.
>設定的に可哀想なのがフレイア
>メタ的に可哀想なのがミラージュ
>give Freyja pitiful setting
>give Mirage pitiful for everything else
In the end even some Japanese is starting confusing about it, this episode don't make them start hating or liking someone, just confusing.
>>144333908
Exactly. They new from the start they didn't want a love triangle, so they are pushing the girl the want to win. At the cost of Mirage being shitted on, but they did this in the wrong direction.
Even though she is apart of the main love triangle, from the very start Mirage should have been deported to secondary character. She doesn't have to be a main character to be apart of the bowl. That's what hurting her, the fact that she is labeled main, when she is receiving secondary treatment.
The writers lack of ability to give her substance and depth, without using the only arc they have for her, is hurting the plot since they waste it on making sure she has some type of screen time.
In all seriousness, even if she is apart of the triangle, Mirage should have taken the secondary role and Mikumo take her rightful spot as the third main character. Mikumo is the fucking plot, and protoculture is the main theme of this series. Mikumo had to be booted out of main character status because of dumb shit like triangles, when triangles isn't even a plot in the show and is hurting it.
At the end of the day, main characters should have been Mikumo, Hataye and Freyja. The triangle can still be Mirage, Hayate and Freyja, but Mirage being a main character is hurting herself, the plot and hers fans hearts.
If you check numerous news sources, or anime blogs/articles or websites, for Delta they mistakingly list Mikumo as the 4th main character because she has more presence, and main character qualities
While shipping wars is happening here. The love live threads are discussing which idol group is better, Aquors or Walkure
>>144334705
Kawamori idols > everything else
>>144334705
On 2ch? I thought the love livers only cared about love love.
>>144334705
OK. Downloading now.
>>144334582
I'm here for Mikumo and Mikumo alone, and even then it's beginning to feel painful watching Mirage's love feelings getting trampled all over and she having nothing else to hold on in her life.
Will Evol become the new standard for Kawamori relationships development?
>>144334582
Funny that they deported Mikumo in cast list.
>If you check numerous news sources, or anime blogs/articles or websites, for Delta they mistakingly list Mikumo as the 4th main character because she has more presence, and main character qualities
That's only one magazine(the one you posted) and it's not a mistakingly, it's reference to episode 1.
Stop defending the staff, it's their fault, not Mirage's, and no why should it's because the triangle? it's because they don't give her anything main plot related.
The fact is "Mirage" should be Windermere ace plot(replace Keith, or just gender swap Keith, and stop trying to pandering fujoshit with aerial knights, as you see it's not working at all), not one of Delta squad, this would end up being a better triangle.
>>144334856
Fuck, Evol was pure shit.
>>144334856
>Evol
Mirage is Mikono
>Late sub again
AYY
>>144334968
Not even close.
>>144334881
>Stop defending the staff, it's their fault, not Mirage's, and no why should it's because the triangle? it's because they don't give her anything main plot related.
Exactly. Mirage should have not been a main character. The staff are aware of what they aren't doing, they aren't stupid. If they want a character to be liked, they'll make it so. There is barely any news on her, and if they do talk about her, it's literally a sentence. The last big info we got on her was literally the biggest bullshit ever. I just don't like seeing the Mirage bullying, she honestly doesn't deserve it.
>>144334968
>not Mikumo
>>144333929
Before airing I was joking about Hayate's gay and not into a girl. He never acted like that before I mean HOLY SHIT HE ACTUALLY BLUSH. Also that blushing scene was really great and emotional.
>>144335023
gg knows they have no competition for subbing, so they literally don't care how late they do anything anymore. To them we are beggars feeding from their hands.
Can't the Japanese speakers here just learn to do it. I'm sure there is a lot of smart tech savy people here. Just form the Delta Sub Team
>>144335024
>under the radar
>does nothing really until the last arc
>still considered one of the main girls
>not as popular as the losing girl
>when she won it sent shockwaves that the losing girl is never heard of again
>arf arf
>>144334968
How? Hayate didn't go full "MUH MIRAGE" like Amata go full "MUH MIKONO-SAN".
Even the Japs aren't buying 100% yet, they JUST know who the real winner is.
Is this an AMV done by a Delta fan who is excited for the new Delta OP?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHlFFBrZu9w
You thought Japs think differently?
>>144335118
Idiot.
Mikono every-single-plot-focus-about-her is the 1:1 same as Freyja.
This episode cemented me as a Miragefag. I was all about Freyja at first, but I can't get behind a character that gets this much favoritism, I need an underdog.
>preview has Freyja crying while singing
Fuck off Kawamori I already made up my mind.
>>144335047
>If they want a character to be liked, they'll make it so.
Problem is, people start liking her by staff keep bullying her, if other characters not still treating nice to her it's already become second coming of ToZ.
They're stupid, they can give Mirage something main plot related, they can never create Mirage and use someone else for the triangle(a conservative way), they can set Mirage as Windermere ace plot to make a different kind of triangle(a risky but radical way), but they didn't do any of it and end up just feels stupid.
It just luckily they're not Hideo BaBa level of stupid.
>>144335250
You and this guy agree.
When /pol/ reaches Japan.
>>144335250
>preview has Freyja crying while singing
What? it just sweating.
>>144335203
>Hideo Baba
I know it is machine TL, but I don't even want to see that name.
>>144335338
>ここからミラミラが巻き返したら名作
>このままミラミラに何もなくフレイアエンドで終わったらテイルズオブ馬場英雄
Nah the comment really said his name.
>>144335250
Freyja is the MC. Mirage is not. It's simple as that.
>>144335203
>Some Japanese posters on an imageboard are representative of Japan.
If the level of activity was close to /a/, I would understand but imageboards aren't very popular over there.
>Futaba Japs don't like Windermeme either
WEW
E
W
Mirage is pathetic. Everyone lost their homes or family while all her angst is about a guy.
They made someone worse than Ranka.
>>144335480
Where do you think imageboards came from?
>>144335552
I know it started with 2chan, but it became way bigger over here than over there, especially now.
>>144335606
>but it became way bigger over here than over there, especially now.
Not true in the slightest.
>>144335538
Her development is bad and, she being deredere and GASP and now she cried because her crush playing snowball with other girl. Staff ruined her.
>>144335658
At least when I think of a place to anonymously congregate or shitpost in Japan, it's 2ch not 2chan.
>>144335538
By this episode every characters are pathetic then.
>>144335203
Do you have a thread link?
What is this?
>>144335848
This one i think.
http://may.2chan.net/b/res/421173377.htm
>>144335935
She's asking for it
Rate delta songs from best to worst?
Reirei! Birthday is coming up guys. How should we celebrate?
>>144335947
Thanks.
Is mirage the only supposed main character that is given the shitest treatment by the writers in Macross franchise?
>>144336493
Guld got it pretty bad.
>>144336493
I hope she die in the ending.
I don't hate her, in fact i pretty like her, but i want to see how will Japan react to this.
>>144336493
Who is Mylene?
The rune touching scene was sex right
They planned this to make Japanese people starting liking Mirage(for whatever reason), otherwise they won't find a Kuromukuro writer to write this episode(the writer of this episode never wrote any other Macross Delta episodes til now).
>>144336760
I am a miragefag myself and to be honest, I don't mind the writers killing her off from the story. It's better for her to die than suffering later on in misery.
It's already 16 episodes down the road and I just couldn't stand the treatment she gets.
Based on today's episode, hayate practically ignores the shit out of mirage especially when she is trying to convey her feelings to Hayate.
>>144336929
>(for whatever reason)
She's winning
>>144336493
To be honest all the zents. Guld, Mylene, Ranka and now Mirage. They have passed the baton on
>>144337245
>Kawamori bullying zents again.
>>144337245
>implying Mirage has lost
>>144336983
>falseflagging Freyjafag still at it
>waiting for GG
>>144336493
Minmey gets shat on plenty
Mylene, Guld, Ranka, Fucking Mao
>>144337655
Why are the subs so late ?
>>144337720
>Minmey gets shat on plenty
Only in the end because she lost
Misa was the one getting shat on
>>144337720
At least minmay's character had a purpose and she is accepted by other characters in the show. Way much better than mirage, who literally has nothing at all.
>>144337798
number of times slapped by Hikaru
Misa 0
Minmey 1
>>144337886
number of times Misa got sidelined by Minmay: every episode save for the last episodes
>>144335538
Dude are you literally stupid?
>>144336493
Guld and Zessica, but Mirage is better than both so she's suffering more.
SUBS
>[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv
>0 seeders
You okay over there gg?
>>144337508
Lost what? Hayate? Mirage has other things to worry about, before she chases after love, and her fans need to realize this too. The only thing she has lost so far is character development.
If you literally extract Mirage from the plot, the plot is literally the same. She has not been beneficial at all. And don't use the "She helped Hayate blah blah" that was her one and only useful moment, which could have been easily done by Messer.
>>144338507
>Subs are actually up
WOAH
>>144337798
What's your point? Misa at least had characterization though, not the best but she had a presence. She wasn't an illusion, she was there.
You also can't compare that series with this series, since they didn't intend on it being a love triangle until midway through the series. Try another Macross series, one that is actually marketed as a love triangle. SDFM doesn't qualify
>>144338743
>It doesn't qualify because I said so
>>144337886
A very well needed slap. That slap gave Minmay characterization and depth, it transformed her and made her grow. It was the peak of her development, and what made her three dimensional. Maybe is one-minded Misa, who chased after a shitty MC got slapped, she would have realized what a piece of shit she won.
>>144338673
So why not just remove mirage instead since she is not useful at all?
As a fan of mirage, I feel pity towards her. She gets nothing good from the series and all she gets is being bullied.
>>144338819
As a Freyjafag, I thought that she will get it soon because her love arc started from here.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_04.42_[2016.07.18_01.58.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/prT9nLv.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 04.42 [2016.07.18 01.58.41]")
Oh god this banding
>>144332499
You do realize that VA's record the lines pretty early, and animation is done to match the audio?
The fact this episode had no budget means it's not important.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_03.45_[2016.07.18_03.01.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7gmgqXk.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 03.45 [2016.07.18 03.01.56]")
>>144338906
Yes!
>>144338802
It doesn't qualify because that's reality. I'm not a fan of Misa but when shit is true, shit is true, and the truth is Mirage's character development is trash.
Actually I go more in depth, it's not just Mirage it's the entire cast of Macross Delta. As much as Freyja is being praised, she is still two dimensional, she is just a little bit better off than the rest because she is focused on the most.
Delta has a good solid plot, and I'm starting to think they couldn't handle this large cast. All the characters lack depth and substance, none of them show three dimensional qualities. Minmay might have had a terrible, and shitty personality. However she was really well written, she was a realitic teenage girl for that time period. Along with Sheryl, she was really well written too.
Mirages pathetic development is only noticeable, because she is the worst of the worst. Try watch the show without any attachments to any of the characters, judge their personality and depth as realistically as possible, and you'll notice the sad truth.
I still love Delta though, but this is a series with an awesome plot and flat characters
>>144338879
I think this is the episode where the writers want mirage to remove herself out of the love triangle and get over it. But hey, she just realised she have feelings for Hayate, so she may have a chance
>>144334169
Dame doesn't mean "everything else" it means no good.
Now i know why dAnime store's character poll is up to July 15, 2 days before episode 16.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_03.5].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/5ggFirx.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 03.5]")
>>144338980
Yes.
>>144338996
>opinion central
>>144338996
>I still love Delta though, but this is a series with an awesome plot and flat characters
There never was that much time dedicated to antagonists and what they were up to, in past Macross series. Delta is the first time when the antagonists is a recognisable relatively human society. And it is a big deal to show war on their end. But that means we lose screen time on the protagonist end as a result.
This is normal if this was Gundam. But Macross normally don't have this. Macross generally show things from the protagonist end and that's it. The need to give half the screentime to Windereme and THEIR pretty boy pilots, means the main cast loses out.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_12.19_[2016.07.18_02.09.29].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JVS5kNG.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 12.19 [2016.07.18 02.09.29]")
This episode made me a Miragefag.
>>144338879
>I thought that she will get it soon because her love arc started from here.
That's the problem though, dick should not equal character development. You mean to tell me, the only way a strong minded badass female pilot can be developed is through dick? Shit, that's disgraceful. Honestly, I'm sick of this shit. Mirage crying was the last straw.
>>144338819
Because they fucking can't. They already made the mistake of advertising her. They should have just stuck with the original main characters.
So is Hayate keeping Messer's ride, or are they shoving him back in his old one?
>>144339168
>They already made the mistake of advertising her.
She doesn't get much actually, like the other secondaries. It's Freyja and Hayate being pushed as mains.
Instead of mirage being part of the triangle they should replace mirage for either Keith/Heinz or bogue. That way made more sense
>>144339082
Whatever you say lovelivefag If you think these characters have depth, substance, and are established, you'd probably accept any garbage character that's thrown your way, and watch any kind of anime.
Take Mirages "I'm not a good pilot away" and guess the difference between her and the bridge bunnies? None. She's as flat and basic as them, along with many other characters, hiding behind plot elements.
>>144339242
You see the planes are in the hangar.
>>144339252
Except Japanese crowd don't think so.
>>144339294
Posters, interviews and merch speak for themselves.
what does I'm an A-fag mean anyway? That you only like A and care nothing for B? No? Then why the distinction at all? Is it simply shipping preference, or that you're able to order A and B in such a way that you admit you like A more? Are you obligated to hate B?
I fucking love A and back her in everything. But fuck, I want nothing but happiness and good times for B as well.
>>144339168
Mirage's whole fucking purpose is to pay tribute to the jenius clan due to muh fan service. Because mirage 'fallyna' 'jenius' sounds good as it reminds us fans of Max and Milia. That's all. That's her purpose in the show
>>144339268
Hayate is one of the few Macross MCs who actually has decent development. Freyja has evolved too. Roid and the Windys have their own changes.
Mirage actually stands out as her problems have remained the same and she hasn't improved at all. But then again she's not relevant much of the time, so she shouldn't be treated like a co-protagonist.
>>144339336
Doesn't matter, point is the audiences don't think so, and bigger problem is Macross series can't earn money from oversea streaming rights(fucking Harmony Gold), so Japan is the only place they can earn money.
So far it still fine, but i'm not too optimism for future if they keep bully her.
But i guess they can change something in movie anyway.
That has to be one of the best episodes of anime I've seen in like a fucking year. God damn that was so good and satisfying.
This show is fucking AOTY already and we're only 2/3 through.
>>144339294
Really? Enlighten me on how big of a deal Mirage is to nips? Because they must be marketing Freyja to loose profits. Perhaps they just want the company to go bankrupt
>>144339411
>Doesn't matter, point is the audiences don't think so
Then they're being dumb. Macross is still rolling in Walkure money, so no problem.
>>144339408
>so she shouldn't be treated like a co-protagonist.
You keep saying this doesn't change the fact people think she is co-protagonist.
>>144339075
>tiny fingers
Mirage is basically Zessica, only her Mikono is actually great and deserves to win. Hopefully Mirage will be able to move on.
>>144339397
And that's a sad fucking purpose, a waste of screen-time, and waste of plot progression. If Mirage was being equally developed it would have been amazing, but at this point not only is she shitting on that name, she is hindering the plot. She is beyond forced.
>>144339428
Agreed. One of the best episodes, and it didn't even have action in it.
>>144339474
Those people's thoughts won't change what's actually in the show, the interviews, merch, and even overall popularity since Nips love Freyja much more anyway.
>>144339538
It gave me a feeling close to the Ping Pong Christmas episode.
>>144324768
>Why Kaname likes Arad I will never know. The dude's already in his thirties and has a patch of gray hair. Kaname why. Youre 22 for fucks sake.
I don't see any romance between Arad and Kaname. It looks more like she feels that Arad is hiding something. Ernest and Aarda knows about Windermere and she is the only leader that doesn't know a thing. She like Mirage is left out people of their circle.
That ED was pretty fantastic. Kinda reminds me of Round Table too.
so every episode is gonna be Mirage fags on suicide watch until Frejya dies
You Freyjafags serious think "Mirage's plot isn't new" is a excuse about writers treating her like shit? why should i give a fuck her plot is refreshing or not? i want her development, or just fucking kill her so her suffering finally ends, that's all.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_13.5].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wIs8oFH.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 13.5]")
Time to kill the spy
>>144339540
And this is why it's a flaw of this show.
>>144339518
>not only is she shitting on that name
I'm waiting for her to gut gud.
>she is hindering the plot
Nah actually she serves a purpose in helping Freyja and Hayate realize their feelings. She also played a role in Hayate's development from lazy retard to decent pilot who respected the craft.
>Freyjafags getting uppity again after this episode
>>144339428
Yeah, I always drop the show before it end because I'm to lazy to make up. Delta is so great and the songs are so GOAT and it made me hype and wait for Sunday like a faggot.
>>144338942
>The fact this episode had no budget means it's not important.
I've noticed derpy faces. The only good animation was at the end.
>>144338942
This episode having no budget means they're saving all of it near the end.
Buy the BDs goyim!
Was it rape?
>>144339624
Eh not really since Mirage isn't that popular. Neither the story nor the sales are noticeably suffering from one side character losing the bowl.
>>144339628
The decent pilot thing was done by Messer. She only helped with the 1st kill talk and Hayate to realize his feelings to Freyja.
>>144339587
>deluded, retarded, enraged
you realize Mirage crying at the end of the episode was a huge scene? I find it hysterical you going on about it being one dimensional, except what you want is only one type of story with one type of development. Now THAT is one-dimensional.
>>144339637
Of course they're defending the character development of this show, their favorite characters wins everything.
>>144339695
It's not a rape if the victim liked it.
Freyja is my wife.
>>144339711
Both of them helped him with piloting. He clearly respects her as his instructor too.
Not even the most delusional Mirage fags can deny that Freyja is going to win now
I have a feeling Mikumo is putting up a font like Messer, so that she doesn't get close to anyone. That way, when she dies...
>Don't comment about my use of "..."
>>144339746
Only the most delusional Freyja fags believe that Freyja is going to win
>>144339742
But she's not pure anymore.
>>144339695
so is she 15 by normal aging standards? like level of development and maturity?
like do windermereans age in dog years or something?
>>144339709
Don't worry, it will.
Other than first volume(which include event ticket), non of any other volumes are in top 200 and first volume is going to on sale soon.
Yeah the CD sales is good, but please also enjoy this show will lost the top seller of spring season chart.
http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index2.cgi?smd=title&tn=%83%7D%83N%83%8D%83X
>>144339747
>I have a feeling Mikumo is putting up a font like Messer
Yes, she does. Yes, she would "disappear - die".
Arad would die too when Hayate's father secret would come out.
Cassim, Herman - dead too.
>>144339408
>she shouldn't be treated like a co-protagonist
The problem now is that she already is
>>144339788
Are you Japanese or that Thai guy?
>>144339713
What kind of huge scene, wanting a boy's dick is huge scene? fuck you, i want personal development, not this stupid shit.
>>144339786
They age exactly like humans until their late 20's.
Mikumo is Hayate's mom
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_19.4].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/DlvSewE.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 19.4]")
>Runeboner
>Hey Hayate I knew your dad all along
>He be gud
>He dindu nuffin
>He be kind for his good
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_21.33_[2016.07.18_02.36.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/LhfFpCP.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 21.33 [2016.07.18 02.36.56]")
>attend a friend's birthday
>make it about you somehow
I'm getting pretty tired of this bitch
>>144339838
>realizing she's in love is not personal development
Like I said, you're one dimensional.
mirage looked like misa in this episode, not trolling or baiting
>>144339894
Arad's huge deathflag
>>144339912
Of course it's not, all she done is just pushing Hayate's development, i want something that she's not with Hayate.
>>144339909
Oh god, they translated it like that? GG really has a hate boner for her don't they
The line is more accurately translated as "I have no memory of ever having my birthday celebrated"
Every new episode aired, Freyjafags getting more and more arrogance.
>>144339909
>Nobody ever celebrated my birthdays
Well yeah maybe because you're sucha shinpi bitch that you never told anyone when your birthday is?
Lady M fucking when?
>>144317539
Mikumo will win the Freyja bowl.
>>144339996
She is not important.
>>144339983
They're the new Minmayfags
>>144339983
All I see is increasing miragefag bitterness and vitriol. And I say that as some who loves both characters. This episode was 10/10 partly because of the heartache i felt for Mirage.
so why does Freyja's singing resonate with Hayate so much?
>>144339965
they made a lot of shitty choices this episode. like translating "mou baka baka" as "you're so sweet" when Makina and Chuck were making fun of Hayate and Mirage on their date.
>>144340024
Soulmates. You're free to decide wether they're platonic soulmates or not on your own. Kaname and Messer is an example of 100% platonic soulmates. They meant a big deal to each other, but they were never "couple that never took off"
>>144340019
Thanks for proving that again Freyjafag.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_23.3].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ayUgM0U.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 23.3]")
Pacha when
>>144340073
what is she indicating with her hand there? it's like she's trying to show the girth of something
>>144340069
You likewise proved my point.
Arad or Kaname deathflag?
only YOU can decide
>>144340073
THAT ITALIAN THING ITALIANS DO
>>144340024
UNMEI
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_02.42_[2016.07.18_09.45.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mopGfTz.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 02.42 [2016.07.18 09.45.30]")
>they think Freyja has any chance whatsoever of winning the Hayab owl
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_21.08_[2016.07.18_17.40.44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9ibJkrG.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 21.08 [2016.07.18 17.40.44]")
I'll forever be a Miragefag but holy shit this scene and transition was perfect.
>>144340109
Arad is dead as fuck.
>>144340109
This scene just has cemented that something bad is gonna happen. Arad isn't going to survive - he dies after revealing the truth about Hayate's father.
SLEEP TIGHT FREYER
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_13.2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/V4zzlUt.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 13.2]")
>>144340168
HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE
> took Hayate from Mirage
> took most of the screen time from Mirage
> took Querele away from Mirage when Mirage needs something to cling to
> Frejya's constant "uhihi" and "hoina" took away Mirage's smile.
What a great development for Mirage, am i right?
>>144340109
People that were hiding something: Messer, Mikumo, Arad. Everyone feels that something bad is going to happen to other two people that are alive.
>>144340131
GG messed up again. He just said "What with that IHIHIHI". Something like how can she laugh like that when her home planet are declaring a war.
>>144340109
Doom bitch strikes again
>>144340019
All i see is you Freyjafags keep defending the show because your princess wins everything.
>>144340109
>that look of disdain
>no words exhanged
>Arad telling Hayate about his doodpops
Arad you dead nigga
>>144340190
Moar. Your bitter tears sustain me
>>144340131
>Reina, Makina and Chuck are shipping Mirage and Hayate
Already the proven winner.
>>144339858
Mikumo is Freyja's daughter
>>144340109
Arad. But on the other hand him dying would be too cruel from Kaname. But then again it's obvious that he's hiding something important and he regrets whatever he did in Windermere.
>>144340182
Windniggers are so creepy even in their sleep.
>>144340245
so if Arad dies does that mean Kaname will suffer more than Mirage
this Macross has turned into the suffer bowl, wholl win Mirage or Kaname?
Impossible to watch this episode and not convert yourself in to the freyfrey train.
>>144339909
Is this Mikumo confirmed PROTOCULTURE?
>>144339909
Still finding reasons to hate kumokumo, hop off her dick bitch
>>144340109
Idol or a pilot.
That Idol's life story - fail at everything.
Arad is hiding truth about Hayate's father and his own involvement.
Arad's last talk with Messer has been about Arad's worthiness to live too.
The answer is Arad.
>>144340285
this
>>144340225
>All I see is some angry he bet on the wrong horse.
Isn't it time you moved on to another show, senpai? You're clearly not enjoying yourself.
>>144340285
Frefre's a cute!
>>144340109
its obvious as shit that hayate's dad is the one who dropped the bomb on Windermere. The moment he tells Hayate he's dead within 5 minutes
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_19.14_[2016.07.18_14.35.06].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/dPCFzIN.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 19.14 [2016.07.18 14.35.06]")
>>144340285
Best girl ever
>>144339990
Dumbass, it's obvious she doesn't know when her birthday is. Have you been watching the fucking show? It's clear she has amnesia shit head
>>144340310
>bet on the wrong horse.
Bet what? i just come here and complaining the bad character developments.
>>144340339
>too kind for his own good
>tries to holocaust a planet
>Miragefags butthurt over Hayate awakening to his feelings for Freyja
I don't know why you all gagging. Kawamori brings it to us every episode.
Holy shit, I just can´t get over my heartboner for Freyja.
Send help.
>>144340073
She doesn't look too happy.
>>144340109
This whole episode was Arad's death flag.
The triangle finally feel like it's awake. Both girls are important to Hayate, and in completely different ways.
Mikumo and Freyja's interaction was amazing this episode.
If Hayate's dad dropped the bomb and Arad has known this whole time I don't know what to think about him. That bomb killed millions and wrecked an entire planet in lots of ways. It's hilarious how they make the windies look like real bad guys when they decide to conquer the galaxy and kick NUNS ass, while making Arad and Hayate's dad seem shadier and maybe not as good as one may have thought at first. Maybe there's more to this story, but the way Arad acts is suspicious. It's like he regrets everything that he did 7 years ago.
arad dropped the bomb but hayadad covered for him and got assassinated
>>144340423
Why does kumokumo always look blazed. What is she smoking?
So how the fuck did he get that snow maker machine?
>>144340447
protoculture is a hell of a drug
>>144340448
>gives an elf some ice cream now, gives her a creampie tomorrow
>>144340448
And how many apples did it cost
>>144340447
DUDE
SHINPI
LMAO
>If someone complaining this show, he/she must be Miragefags, even none of his/her words is about triangle
Can't be helped i guess.
>>144340448
nigger its the future just role with it
>>144340437
Arad acts like he regrets and his last talk with Messer ...
>>144340364
It was pretty good. Chaos planning a counterattack, Heinz resolving to make war, Freyja's angst about the war, Hayate realizing his feelings, Arad fucking around with the truth, more SHINPI.
But when is Sivil coming back guys?
>>144340437
I'm thinking they don't actually know what happened. Out of the blue their friend or acquaintance. Dropped a bomb, that made them lose the war on the planet, but was also a huge war crime, killing millions of civilians.
Everything pans out more or less if Wright was VAR'd somehow. Maybe he had a direct seiznole injection by an Epsilon character, VAR'd, and dropped the bomb where it wasn't meant to go. NUNs loose most of their forces, the otherside are warcrimed' by way of millions dying to an illegal weapon. Arad and that other guy know it was Wright, but they just can't figure out why.
It's probably gonna pan out to be slightly different than this, we're still missing pieces.
>>144340491
I was talking about the actual Miragefags that are complaining and throwing nasty comments towards Freyja.
You're a terrible person. First Miragefags have to deal with Mirage getting shafted on and now they have to deal with you making my post about you. Incredible.
Have you no shame?
>>144340518
she left the galaxy, mate. let it go.
>Small windie nation going up against NUNS.
Macross 7, Macross Frontier, Planet Eden, Macross 11 and so on all on suicide watch
>>144340366
If Arad knows the truth about the incident why didn't he reveal it yet?
Probably because nuke was justified.
He looks in love.
>Mikumo's feet
Is she really human?
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_10_[FAE5B24D].mkv_snapshot_05.07_[2016.07.18_10.05.41].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OSphV28.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 10 [FAE5B24D].mkv snapshot 05.07 [2016.07.18 10.05.41]")
>>144340493
Do you mean this one? Yeah, it seems like Arad has something he regrets very much. He also refuses to talk about his time in Windermere and so far they keep portraying that war as being really harsh on windies (dead civilians and destroyed cities everywhere, families being torn apart, the knights being decimated, kids joining the fight, then the bomb).
>>144340602
The nuke destroyed their own forces.
So Macross Delta is a story about a person winning everything, getting love by everyone and a other person that lose everything, never able to get good, no one hugs her even she's sad.
Well actually it's a pretty good main theme, make you realize how real life works, i think i will pre-order the BD volume that include episode 13 and this episode.
>>144340554
The Var theory does make sense, especially because I don't see Arad covering his friend for such a crime if he really didn't know what happened there.
>>144340605
The lyrics is pretty sweet here. This is too shoujo for me, why Kawamori's such a shoujofag.
Do you think these 3 will help Mirage in telling hayate that mirage have feelings for him? Something like what happened in SDF?
>>144340674
Remember Escaflowne?
>>144340581
>throwing nasty comments towards Freyja.
Other than the single shitposter no Miragefags are comments towards Freyja, they're comments towards the writers.
>>144340605
He's been the biggest Freyjafag since like episode 1. The way he's all up in Freyja's space was never a simple friends thing. His attention to everything she does or says and constantly jumping in harms way just to protect her was odd. Him finally realizing his actual feelings was only a matter of time.
>>144339788
>non of any other volumes are in top 200
http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/show.cgi?&n=B01DLWE6M6
Looks like volume 2 is on the rise. We'll have to see what happens with the BS broadcast.
>>144340636
Yes, this one.
>>144340691
In SDF Hikaru treated Misa like shit indirectly but is nowhere near as dense as Hayate.
>>144340671
It's not just him covering for Wright. He's also being shut about it to Hayate for Hayate's sake. I mean sure, it's a nasty thing to keep to himself, but I can see him reasoning that way
>By the way kid, your pops committed one of the worst war crimes in recent memory. I don't really know why he did that though. Oh, lets go on a combat mission now"
Hayate!!!! How can you ignore Mirage when she is talking to you? Why are the writer so darn bully
>>144340726
Hikaru was just a shit. Mirage doesn't drop big hints about her feelings anyway.
I can't believe 24 hours ago we were all HAYATE IS GAY. Our little boy has grown up.
What a time to be alive as a Freyjafag.
>>144340695
Yeah, also Aquarion EVOL.
>>144340702
He started to care about her after episode 3. Their development are so good.
I hope people stop saying it's "pale" or "faint" triangle anymore, i mean maybe they tried, but in the end it still triggered many peoples.
If you don't like bunch of replies are about Freyja and Mirage, try to ignore it, i know it's loads of replies about them in every thread, but it can't be helped.
>>144340109
Just be thankful there havnt been any fucking pineapples in this show yet
>>144339695
for it to be rape it has to be unwanted
>>144340109
Arad, but I hope they have the balls to kill Kaname instead.
>>144340788
We had: one was behind Kaname and the other one was near Roid.
>>144340778
What do you think pale or faint means anyway? Why do you interpret that as meaning there won't be romantic development?
>>144340778
I guess it's faint in that the competition isn't fierce and the winner is fairly obvious. Who was it that said the triangle wasn't going to be like those daytime dramas?
>>144325167
>is fun to be around
>No お誕生日おめでとう
>No singing ＨＡＰＰＹ ＢＩＲＴＨＤＡＹ
>>144340788
It amazes me that the pineapple meme could survive frontier.
>>144340190
>Wants an entire seasons worth of development in 1 episode
It's like you've never watched anime before. First you break them down and then you build them up.
>>144340770
The ways he says her name at the end, damn.
>>144340828
Of course there is romantic development, but the "pale" and "faint" doesn't work at all.
>>144340774
He cared about her since episode 1 when he jumped into danger in order to save her in the middle of the battlefield. But yes, I do agree that the caring became more personal by episode 3. I loved episode 12 where he was all "sing as hard as you want. I'm out there to protect you."
>>144340836
The director.
>>144340691
Are these faggots just blind to Hayate and Freyja's chemistry, or are they just big underdog fans?
>>144340857
I keep hearing this since episode 3, they still have 10 episodes left.
>>144340828
Stop asking the smae question over and over and over
>>144340864
Again, what do you define "pale" or "faint" triangle as actually meaning?
>>144340838
I've noticed that Arad has been the only person that hasn't been singing Happy Birthday.
>>144340911
Try giving a satisfying answer. Define the term and face the consequences that you may be wrong, or shut up about it?
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>Hayate comes late to the party
>he doesn't even bother to move closer to Freyja
>he stays next to Mirage
Happy half-lifespan day!
>>144340691
The bridge bunnies mainly and random pilots were rooting for Misa and Hikaru...but Hikaru was enamored with Minmay like a lovesick dog. So all throughout SDF Misa gets kicked around hard.
Now guess who's getting kicked around hard in Delta with a bunch of side characters rooting for her?
>>144340922
Ask the director, he said everyone will feels good about the triangle, but looks like it's not happening.
>Arad's gonna die
>Mirage ends up becoming Captain of Delta Platoon
>Time for Mirage redeem herself and kick some Aerial knight's ass
legit development for Mirage
>>144340942
>Nuke this Windnigger
>We should have finished the job
>>144319703
Freyja is going to die.
Unfortunately.
>>144340987
I feel good.
>>144340996
Please. She needs development on the pilot front.
>>144341020
You're not everyone sadly.
>>144340996
>Misa is a 1st Lt. now
>gets promoted to Captain and then later Major in a short span of episodes
Pottery
>>144319703
Sheryl kissed Alto by 5. Mao was never ever going to win. More obvious winners have happened.
>>144340942
He also didn't say happy birthday when the lights went on he just stood there probably thinking >>144341008They should have used two nukes.
>>144340996
With how all of Kaname's prospects keep getting shot down by Windniggers, she really should try getting into the piloting business, it's not like Basara didn't make it work
Does Freyja's rune arouse Hayate now? Will he ever get to lick it while it's erect and throbbing?
>>144340987
I feel really good though. I even feel good about feeling bad for Mirage? I genuinely sympathized the most I ever had for her this episode. I really hope things turn out well for her.
Reminds me of another quote from the same interview, this is a story where you "want to watch over the characters". Like a protective father so that nothing bad happens to them.
>>144341076
Just send Kaname to Windermere, after all she is a Grim Reaper.
>>144341128
Again you're not everyone, see this thread i can tell you many people not feeling good for whatever reason.
>I really hope things turn out well for her.
Seeing how the staff bullying her you better don't hope too much about this.
>>144341128
I do want every character to be happy at the end. Yes, even the knights although I know I'm in the minority here.
>>144341095
Pls. This is still public television.that's what doujins are for
>>144341165
Kaname is the real Reaper of the skies.
>she's never boring
>things tend to end up crazy when she's around
Isn't this what makes most girls win?
>>144341165
>send Kaname to Windemere to seduce Keith
>plan succeeds and they start fucking>she shout SHIROKISHI in bed while he shouts SHINIGAMI
pottery
>>144341076
Basara was an absolute madman though.
>>144340883
I love when he cheer her up with that spoon feed teasing. They're bonding too much something more than friend and less than love.
>>144340899
Maybe they're knowing that Mirage like Hayate so they trying to help her.
>>144341173
I know I'm not everyone, but this board is pretty poor representation of everyone else as well.
>>144341198
I pray for many vanilla HayaFreyer runejob doujin to get scanned.
>She isn't singing or smiling happily when the birthday song was sang. She hides at a corner.
>When the rest of them laugh outside the restaurant, she is just standing at the corner alone as fuck and no one cares about her.
>She isn't even smiling at that time and Hayate just rush towards Frejya without leaving a word to Mirage.
>All Mirage can do at that scene is to look at them happily and project a sad smile on her face
>In the end she cried
Are you seriously sure that the writers aren't doing this on purpose?
Are you seriously sure that the writers aren't stimulating the audience's feelings?
>>144340966
Can I not agree with you? I mean come on just look at them looking at each other.
>>144341315
I'm sure that the staff played Tales of zestiria and got some idea from that game for how to treat Mirage.
>>144341315
Its like people have never seen scenes made for us to feel sorry for a character.
>>144341315
She may be crying and moping now but she'll smile in the end
>tfw I have to wait a whole week for next episode
;_;
>>144320020
>SDF
SDF was actually a complex story of romance. It wasn't a will they won't they pseudo-harem. They dated other people, had other interests and aired their feelings multiple times. Plus it had way more episodes.
Don't you ever compare Delta to SDF again. Delta pretty much can't compete.
>mirage smiling and crying
I actually started to feel sorry for her. Am I a bad Freyja fag now?
>>144339038
>Dame
It's Meta.
>>144341515
It's okay to feel bad for another girl. Just don't shitposting.
>>144341515
No, it's what the writers intended. Freyja is still going to win though.
>>144328726
>Makina plz go
I hope Mirage back to NUNs, become commander of Delta's area, and announce they will drop a asteroid to Windermere.
>>144341515
Of course. Everyone here is a bad Freyja fag. Everyone here is a bad Mirage fag. All of us are scum, the thread proves it this much.
In all seriousness, I love both of them, maybe not as much, but it isn't a competition when it comes down to it. I just want a happy end for everyone.
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>>144341072What if they were going to?What if Arad was bomb?
>>144341587
See >>144340654
Not happening for Mirage.
>>144337720
>Minmey gets shat on plenty
What the fuck are you smoking?
TANJOUBI DAZE
HAPPY
UMARETEIKITE
TSUCHI NI KAERU
>Freyja is going win
Greatest /a/ meme in 2016
>>144341617
Hayahaya dad was the one who dropped the bomb in Windermere
>>144339852
>They age exactly like humans until their late 20's.
Nah they clearly reach peak sexual maturity faster at the very least. Hence the 15 yo Freyja being hassled about getting married for years before this point.
>>144338996
>mary sue
>well written
Pick one
>>144339909
100% this. I fucking hate Mikumo. She dominated the funeral too. It's always about her.
>Son of a dimensional bomber
>>144341452
Yeah, I was surprised by how intricate SDF became. A lot progressed within single episodes. The war was won ten episodes before the final one, and that allowed extra story to be told. The romance side of things wasn't rapped up until that final episode, but there were a lot of supporting moments on each side. In the end, it was a pretty realistic depiction of dating. I liked it.
>>144339920
No, I agree. It was horrifying. Misa was a good girl from episode one. I do not enjoy the parallels they're drawing between her and Mirage.
>no one pays attention to Makina and Reina
>they said that Kaname likes Arad, getting Messer cucked forever
>they ship Hayate and Mirage to the point that they discreetly set them up on a date without either party knowing
>implying they are wrong
>>144341753
Everyone and their mother is saying Mirage is just another Misa stiff who will unwind later on.
Freyja == Felicity
Delta has officially jumped the shark
>>144340788
>Pineapple meme
But hey! We have fried jellyfish snacks in Delta
>>144339909
This. I also really dislike how she hijack 90% of the songs, making the others irrelevant.
>>144340973
So basically same scenario?
>>144341752
The 9 final episode were an unplanned extension of the show, due to it being really popular when it aired. The original ending was the climax at 27, but the network extended, so they made a 9 episode long epilogue with a miniclimax, and extended the love triangle that was actually resolved and done with in 27 originally.
>>144341039
>Misa is a 1st Lt. now
>gets promoted to Captain and then later Major in a short span of episodes
>Pottery
So it made sense. Its SDF all over again.
>>144340654
>miragefags having a massive victim complex
Yeah man, just like real life, exactly.
>>144340726
>dense
He just doesn't care. It's as simple as that.
>>144341933
I'm not miragefag though, if i'm, why should i plan to buy any BD volumes at all?
I buy it because it's a nice reminder you know.
New thread.
>>144341999
>>144341999
>>144341008
>arad seccretly hates windniggers
>he dropped the bomb
>Hayate's dad bitched out
>Windies were able to recouperate and retaliate because of only one bomb
>Dad was dealt with as a traitor by NUNS
TOO KIND FOR HIS OWN GOOD
So, has it been confirmed that Roid is a big idol-fag? Is that how scattering of the stage happens?
>>144341898
How can it be SDF if Hayate didn't following Freyja's pussy?
>>144342017
If so Arad nuked his own forces.
>>144341752
I was pretty surprised too. I went in without knowing all about it so I had no idea Misa was going to be in the triangle. Luckily I liked her from day one and was presently surprised when she stepped up.
>>144341759
They're clearly wrong. If Messer had sacked up earlier he may have even scored
>>144341789
CWfags please go. If Freyja is Felicity I wouldn't have dropped their show after season 3
>>144341816
I agree. Her focus in the album was annoying. Worse still there were a bunch of 'without-Freyja' versions.
Horrible.
>>144341898
It cannot be SDF. If they try and imitate SDF they will fail. SDF set things up differently, took interpersonal reactions more seriously and had virtue of being the first in the series so people weren't just looking for a girl to 'win' rather than watching a show about people in love during a space war.
>>144339242
Barely got funding again for retaking the sector, so if anything his new plane is on the way with other supplies.
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So when Hayate was shopping with Mirage and Freyja started singing Hayate seemed to have some kind of side effects.
The preview shows Freyja singing and Hayate looking shocked, do you think they'll go with the "their connection is hurting Hayate" route?
>>144342342
He was just feeling her pain through resonance, like in Frontier. The preview makes it look like something bad happens to Freyja though, so if by "hurting Hayate" you mean he feels the moment Freyja gets hurt, then maybe.
>>144342342
He just got stung by her reminiscence. It's also how he thought of getting her snow. Because she missed her homeland so much it hurt him by proxy.
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