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I guess that's that.
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>>144341999
Mirage will winin 15 years, she will raise Freyja and Hayate's kids as her own too
>>144341999
I teared up a bit during this episode when Hayate touched the rune. Mirage tears made me smile though.
>>144341999
Miragefags on suicide watch.
>>144342038
You mean Mirage will win and Freyja will die with her death bringing peace to Windermere.
Who /Makina/ here?
>>144342038
Freyja could live to be anywhere from 28~35.
>>144342038
>His kids
I'd love to see this just for the top kek.
The snow scene was great. I was worried that inserting romance would ruin Hayate and Freyja's fun relationship but this is just cute, heartwarming and sad all at once.
10/10 rooting for HayaFre end.
>>144341999
Anyone actually thinks Delta has gone down the shitter, or Mirage is gonna win everything and save the series?
Maybe they are just making her suffer now to give her happiness later.
>>144342115
Anyone actually not obsessed with constantly shitposting about the stupid fucking love triangle?
>>144342060
I like her VA. That's about it though. I mean, there's nothing wrong with her. Just I like kumokumo's look better.
>>144342115
>Maybe they are just making her suffer now to give her happiness later.
Shhh don't trigger the Freyjafags, let them enjoy their short victory.
>>144341999
If mirage somehow win, I will fly to Japan and burn Kaworis house myself
>SORRY WRIGHT, NUTHIN PERSONNEL
>YOU WILL BE A HERO
>I WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR SON
>NO NEED TO WORRY
>GOODBYE WRIGHT
>>144342151
*kawamoris
>>144342061
Yeah, but it's suggested that her singing is cutting that down. So, maybe her upper limit might be 26 or 27. So, ten years or so. That's if she still wants to continue singing with her heart and stuff.
>>144342038
This is worst and most un-respectful ending for all three characters, please don't say this again.
>>144342038
Pic relevant.
>>144342038
>Mirage looks after Freyja's kids
Please let this happen.
There's no coming back from this.
>>144342215
>Hayate will outlive at least 6 of his descendants
>>144342393
We don't know how long a half-breed would have to live. Mystery lifespan.
>>144342130
nothing else is happening, only vague preparations on both sides
>>144342040Hate to said this, but same as you anon.
>>144342115
>>144342147
At this point i think her winning the triangle would hurt more than help. They'll have to establish a believable relationship that overcomes the connection Hayate and Freyja share, as well as juggle all the other plot points and characters. There just isn't time. The best thing to do is continue with the HayaFre while developing Mirage's main conflict, her piloting, not spend too much time on triangle drama. Maybe Mirage can use this pain to git gud.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_20.16_[2016.07.18_04.07.11].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ppniu8k.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 20.16 [2016.07.18 04.07.11]")
I wish Hayate was my boyfriend.
>>144342491
Mirage has to win to save the series tho.
Unless they want to give her plot-lines with her family and her piloting.
But since it looks like they wont, then she has to win in love.
>>144342491
This.
I've been saying for a while now that Hayate and Freyja's relationship is just too developed compared to Mirage's and as much as I hate to say it, after this episode, I don't think there's a way back. We're past the half-way point and the dynamic between Hayate and Freyja is just so much better than between Hayate and Mirage. It'd take an asspull right now to make things swap around now.
Expecting Mirage to win at this point is the same as expecting Ranka to have won in Frontier when Frontier was all about Sheryl.
>>144342491
>The best thing to do is continue with the HayaFre while developing Mirage's main conflict, her piloting, not spend too much time on triangle drama. Maybe Mirage can use this pain to git gud.
I like your idea, but "Mirage's main conflict, her piloting, not spend too much time on triangle drama" is not happening, she will only get bully by the writers.
>>144342393
So how inbred is that last mini Freyja then?
Was Hayate always dumb as a harem protag or was it just this episode.
Wasnt the tears from Mirage a mirror of Sheryl episode 23?
Kawamori looks like running out of ideas, almost everything is a rehash
>>144342537
Anon some people are just bound to be losers through and through and Mirage seems to be that type of person. Only thing she has going for her is that she isn't ugly. You know you're screwed when pic related is a better pilot than you.
The whole reason to make Delta is to make Frontier where Ranka wins.
>>144342602
Only towards Mirage.
>>144342628
Ranka's better this time around so that's okay.
>>144342615
I dont buy it. Macross is supposed to be a good franchise where above average writing is to be expected.
>>144342537
>Mirage has to win to save the series tho.
That makes no sense. Why would you say that?
>Unless they want to give her plot-lines with her family and her piloting
They are.
>>144342580
Did you miss how vehement she was about it not being family influence that led to the path of piloting in this episode?
>I know it's not that simple
Her identity issues haven't gone away.
>>144342537
>But since it looks like they wont
If they weren't going to bother to do anything with it, the makers wouldn't show them doing that stunt they did in the first op.
>>144342115
No, I don't think this at all.
>>144342565
>Frontier was all about Sheryl
Sheryl dominated the bowl, but the plot was centered around Ranka.
>>144342666
>They are
not at all
>>144342676
Its up to the writters. We can only hope they are not idiots.
>>144342537
Mirage winning ruins the series.
>>144342650
Mirage asspulling a win after this is below-average writing desu. She's too behind.
>>144341999
That's real quality
>>144342666
>Did you miss how vehement she was about it not being family influence that led to the path of piloting in this episode?
Yes i read the interview too, problem is i don't trust any words about Mirage from them anymore, i lost all faith to it.
They can change my mind with 10-11 episodes left of course, we will see.
>>144342609
Yes, someone on /m/ pointed that out.
>>144342718
>>144342713
No way to know yet.
I hope Kawamori learned something with EVOL
>>144342537
Mirage winning will be the final dagger to all loser flags that they will stop watching Macross altogether.
Imagine supporting Minmay, Mao, Mylene, Ranka and then Freyja.
>>144342709
>not at all
>It's just who I am huh
>Yes
>I know it's not so simple though
>>144342728
You sound like a Japanese national who has been paying too much attention to anonymous boards. You should take a break. Hanging out with pessimists only leads to more pessimism.
>>144342772
>supporting mao, mylene
Was there anyone who did?
>>144342701
Well, yeah, but we're just talking about relationshiip dynamics here. Unless Mirage gets shot down or something, I don't see her catching up.
And besides that, Freyja has both.
>>144342755
HanaKana sealed Zessica's place from day one, unfortunately.
For some more fuels, here is anti threads for Macross Delta after this episode aired.
http://shiba.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime/1468464526/356-
http://wc2014.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/anime4vip/1468048473/361-
I'm not sure why there are 2 anti threads with both are actively, and both are anti thread for show itself not for the characters anyway.
>>144342728
>Yes i read the interview too,
I was talking about their conversation about piloting and family influence in this very episode.
>>144342784
That's what her family issues have been reduced to: one-liners
>>144342814
>hanging out with pessimists equals more pessimism
>not being a reactionary contrarian by nature
I love being with pessimists. It's there I really grow into the role of optimism
>>144342816
idk about Mao, but Mylene was a total babe
>>144342755
Yes there is. It's more than halfway and there are a lot of other subplots. They simply can't afford to throw all those under the bus to switch up the love triangle.
Unlike Evol's pairing HayaFre is good as it is.
>Mirage getting uppity over family
She wants it lads
>>144342816
I wanted to fuck Mao's brown loli body, so yeah. I knew she wasn't going to win the triangle over her sister, though.
>>144342871
Except its not, and even less acceptable is the fact that one of the trio been treated the disrespectful way she's been treated.
>>144342836
Kek don't move the goalposts. Her issues and present and are being developed.
And you dismiss their conversation as one-liners, but this is new information about how she feels picking a path in life, while making it clear she feels strongly about it.
>>144341999
>mirage lost
Dropped.
>>144342650
Sorry but your favorite character is a loser and making her anything else would be bad writing. Don't let your delusions block your rational judgement.
>>144342946
not yet
>>144342946
>miragefag leaving
Another one down. Wew, another one down.Another one bites the dust.
>>144342946
>mirage lost
Didn't happen and will never happen.
>>144342944
>>144342975
My only true love is Sheryl tho.
Delta is wrong in treating Mirage the way they are treating her.
>>144342860
Mao is a loli
>>144342993
>will never happen
I can't wait until you give up as well. You seem like the type who will hold out for some OVA and pray that Mirage looks after Freyja's kids.
>>144342921
>treated the disrespectful way
The only ways she's treated "disrespectfully" is that she's losing the love triangle and not developing as fast as the MCs, which is expected as a secondary character. But her character is consistent, sympathetic, and still growing. Look how beautifully drawn her final scene is.
>>144343007
What exactly is wrong with treating a loser as a loser? It'd be wrong if they didn't.
>Freyjafags are now posing as Miragefriends claiming she's lost or she should be "killed"
Not a lot of talk about Hayate almost passing out during Freyja's song. A couple episodes ago his brain cells went purple when she was buffing him. Could Freyja be accidentally VARing him?
>>144341999
GOD BLESS YOU
>>144343049
I hope Mirage back to NUNs, become commander of Delta's area, and announce they will drop a asteroid to Windermere.
Miragefags. I'm sorry. I've more than once characterized you as a bunch of bitter vitriol spewing faggots, but it's become increasingly obvious that its just a select few (just one?) that are that way. The rest of you don't deserve the name that (one?) faggot gives you.
>>144343332
Nice try Freyjafag, not even Mirage is that heartless to Windermere despite their military and government trying to dindu nuffin.
>that scene with hayate and freyja in the snow
HNNNNNNNNG
>>144343365
Nah that means she want to give Windermeres the true freedom.
I can't even shitpost about the events that happened today
I just... hnnnnnng
Maybe we can all coexist together
>>144343332
Wait why this plot sounds familiar.
>>144342038
getting cucked hard is see
Freya will die/sacrifice herself and we get a future hayaxmirage end, calling it now.
>>144343385
>>144343458
Fuck, I want to scream about this in other people's face right now. I want to talk about this scene with others until I'm bored.
ITT people who did not watch Robotech and how Lisa was getting pounded by Lynn in almost every episode.
Why are the Walküre so fucking rude?
>>144342187
>implying there won't be some kind of protoculture fold magic fix
What is the best crack ship and why is it Mikumo x Keith
I'm experiencing Zessica's painful moment again, fuck you Kawamori.
Nevah be satisfied
>>144343837
>implying Mirage is Zessica
>>144343774
I think Arad Keith is crackier.
>>144342601
why do you assume he was fugging his descendants
>>144343837
Updated
>>144343861
Yeah it's not as bad as Zessica, but still painful
>>144343971
There's still hope for Mirage, right?
>>144343889
Because he hates the hayafre ship, and wants Hayate to be some fucked up incest inbreeder who'd fuck his daughters in the case hayafre becomes a thing. He's wants to smear shit over it, essentially.
>>144342523
He looks like a faggotand I don't mean that in a joking way he looks like an actual fag
>>144344007
Are you really this autistic?
>>144343989
>There's still hope for Mirage
>Doubting Mirage's win
You don't deserve her
>>144344074
Ok, enlighten me on his motivation then. Why does he interpret it that way when that wasn't even the artists angle?
>>144341999
God damn i'm a freyjafag but this was such a brutal beat down. I didn't feel this bad when Ranka and Jessica were destroyed. Something about the song being really cemented it.
>>144344165
>song is about a short life coming to an end
>really cemented it
>>144343971
The only similarity between Misa and Mirage (apart from their boring personality) is they are both a cuck.
>>144344165
Ranka totally deserved the beat down, but Mirage doesn't thats why we feel bad.
>>144343415
THERE IS A FREEDOM IN GALAXY
>>144344199
Female cuck is quite acceptable, male cuck otherwise.
>>144344189
God bless you is about two people in love.
>>144344199
>mad Minmayfag still at it
>>144342115
Delta has been mediocre since forever. Mirage is irrevelant and the show would only improve by removing her character altogether.
Look at that!
>Mirage isn't even smiling at all
>She is all alone at the corner
>Everyone's laughing and smiling
Why must the writers be so mean? Its totally one sided. Why not just animate her smiling and make her enjoy with the crowd? It is thanks to this details which cause us audience to feel restless, if you wanna make a HayaFrey episode, please make me it 100% one without any mixed feelings. Now its just worst...
>>144344313
>Delta has been great since forever
>>144344331
Why is being heartbroken not a valid story telling tool in your eyes? The pain I feel for Mirage here elevates the episode further.
>>144344331
Are you N2O1990 from reddit?
Delta has been faithfully following the Kawamori patterns so far like the triangle, dead mentor, and MAD OP like his other shows.
Don't lose hope on Mirage.
>>144341999
>>144342038
Been Mirage is suffering ;_;
>>144344397
Kawamori also said he didn't want the triangle and did it only for the sponsors, the broken triangle in the logo means the 3 aspects of Macross won't meet and that this one will be different than any others so far.
It's really 50-50 at this point for both girls, because he has been giving them winning and loser flags.
>>144341999
I'm retarded as fuck; can someone explain what exactly happened with all the bomb fuckery and the scar on Windermere? What happened with all that shit? What was that video of a ship dropping a deminsional weapon in ep 15 meant to convey? Excuse my density.
>>144344397
Freyjafags like to ignore that and pretend in their echo chamber
There's even more
>>144344390
>Why is being heartbroken not a valid story telling tool in your eyes? The pain I feel for Mirage here elevates the episode further.
Because its so painful to see her suffer later on, her character isn't even well written, least developed supposed "main" character. Her current stand in the series makes us feel that she deserves more than just that. She is like the least develop character in the love triangle now. Plus pulling off that pity scene makes us feel that another Misa scenario will happen, but i doubt it would.
>>144344394
>Are you N2O1990 from reddit?
No i'm not, i don't visit reddit
>>144344331
>chihayaposecollage.jpg
Are the Windermere the worst Macross antagonists so far?
>>144344483
We still don't know. We know a bomb was dropped. We know it obliterated significant NUNS forces as well as millions of civilians.
The footage of the VF-22 was pretty much confirmed to be legit this episode. It was pretty much confirmed that Wright was involved in it, and that his involvement is bad, because they agree not to tell Hayate about it. This pretty much sets the course for him dropping the bomb.
There's still a big question mark on why, and we're doubltessly missing additional pieces for it to make sense. A popular theory is that Wright was VAR'd, so him dropping the bomb completely confounds the NUNS as well as his old friends. They know he did it, they just can't comprehend why. From Windermere perspective they had millions of their population murdered by the other side's use of an illegal weapon. But this is just a theory. We're missing the actual information yet on why it happened like it did. Epsilon orchestrating escalating hostilities between Windemere and NUNS seem like another likely factor
>>144342115
>I don't like show because my girl isn't winning
You have to stop
>>144344591
Thanks for clearing that up, anon.
>>144344591
So was Windermere's initial plan just to take revenge for that by capturing Ragna etc? Why was everyone surprised when roid announced that they were going to continue the campaign?
>>144344331
>Mirage's hands
I know that pose
Both of them are my favorite girls, looks like I have a thing on awkward girls afterall.
>>144344397
You should really take out the Kyun Kyun till it happens.
>>144344706
Is this the only Macross triangle where both girls were likable
>>144344701
No, at first they wanted to take control of their cluster and kick NUNS out. Last episode Roid said they are going to conquer the galaxy because that was Gramia's will (we don't know if he's telling the truth or not) and they are the true heirs of Protoculture. We don't know what are his true intentions.
>>144344533
Since when did fucking shippers get so autistic that anything bad happening to their favourite girl is bad writing? When are you going to stop trying to push this retarded shit?
>>144342913
Did anybody like Sara over Mao?
Sara was just so goddamn boring in comparison
>>144344738
Frontier if you are not a literal autist
>>144341999
I want to fuck Keith's little asshole until he dies. He lives by fluke and now he's back with more powers? Fuck that guy.
What do you think about the new song God Bless You? I feel the song is good as it begins with Mirage's sad smile straight towards Hayate and Frejya. The abridge part of the song is great though!
>>144344768
Did anyone actually like anyone in Zero? I only watched it for Focker
>>144344706
>Chihaya
My negro
>>144344768
I don't think so. Everyone I've ever talked to liked Mao more but thought Sara should win.
>>144344786
Ranka is good in the movies, not the show
>>144344570
They're better than Grace.
>>144342060
THICCest mechanic.
>>144344738
Lets see
>SDF
Some hate Misa, most hate Minmay
>Plus
Nobody likes Myung, everybody feels bad for Guld
>7
Gamlin is moe, everbody hates fuckin Mylene
>Zero
Too short for triangle, the onee-san is more likeable
>Frontier
>Rankafags still bitter until now
But Sherylfags are quite annoying too tbhq, The shipping war was unbearable and they still comparing the shipping and the series to Delta until now.
>Delta
The shipping war is there, but wasn''t as intense as Frontier, both side admit both girls were likeable.
So yeah, most of the shippers in both side will feel bad if any of the girl lose in Delta.
Just asking has Mirage ever put her ponytail down in this show?
Love triangles are always shit.You can't even proof me wrong
>>144344874
>They're better than Grace.
NO. Grace accomplished what the protoculture couldn't 500,000 years ago
>>144344918
Kill yourself you cancerous meme loving fuck.
>>144344930
Ye, it was on the second episode when she met Freyja in the living room.
>>144344701
Windermere is case of genuine desire of self defense, the mistaken belief that they ARE liberating the systems they were taking from the NUNS, genuine outrage at their loss of life all turned into blind campaign of greed and hubris and revenge.
They're perpetuating a self delusion based on factors that have some small sense of legitimacy, but goes horribly wrong, and his then hijacked and fanned by Roid's manifest destiny plan.
They felt genuinely threatened by NUNS, from their POV the NUNS think nothing of using illegal weapons (made illegal by themselves) to commit heinous warcrimes against them to keep them down. As such there's a legitimacy to their self justification that they're "freeing" the other planets in the cluster. "Yeah the others may be saying they dont mind them so much, but we know they'll drop bombs on them for no reason" This is getting warped into a sense of "We know best for everyone". We're invading the others for their own good. This is really similiar to Imperial Japan, and make no mistake, that similiarity is NOT lost on Kawamori.
Windermere is also starting to step in the foot steps of the old protoculture. The protoculture were advanced and created many wonderous things. But they were also annihiliated by their own weapons of war. To say windermere is heading towards disaster is a understatement. Windermere is also becoming very similiar to the old NUNG. The old NUNG tried to rule their growin earth empire from Earth as its capital. This lead to a lot of shit and eventually the Earth had to reform, making the NUNG into a decentralized government where each system and immigration fleet is autonomous. That's why president Glass is the supreme commander aboard Frontier. He's the elected democratic president of Frontier, that is its own nation, and he's the only that can allow the NUNS forces on Frontier the use of Reaction weapons and then later MDE's (which are banned after the vajra conflict).
What if Hayate dies
>>144344922
>Rankafags still bitter until now
Not really. Most rankafags ships her with Brera anyway. And there is also the manga.
>>144344922
Gamlin best girl.
>>144344969
Any screenshot? i don't remember that.
What if Mirage dies?
>>144344922
The only shipping wars in Delta are the ones constantly started by the fucking terrible Frontier fanbase.
>>144345024
I hope her death will be due to doing a 911 to Keith then.
Feel sorry for Mirage, but love seeing Miragefags BTFO.
And we all know Mikumo is going to sacrifice herself to extend Freyja's life.
This episode was deculture as fuck.
Grandma will be disappointed with Mirage.
She should challenge Hayate into a knife fight.
Messer was rolling in his pot after the latest episode
>>144344990
>Ranka x Brera
Yeah, that happened after they give up the shipping with alto
>>144345000
Wish he was a girl
>>144344740
>>144344983
Thanks a lot anons everything makes a load more sense now. It's great to have the context.
>>144345001
Got u famalam
>>144345050
>he thinks Freyja will win
>he thinks Mikumo will die
>he thinks Freyja will die
>he thinks Windermere's lifespan will be "fixed"
Another delusional Freyjafag with even more delusion.
>>144344983
Also got to remember that Windermere is not a democracy, the population probably doesn't even mass media. The population knows jack shit about anything. Heinz is the new king, and for all intents and purposes is being used by Roid.
>>144345068
>Hey Messer bite the dust
>What song should we dedicate it for him?
>REMEMBER 16
I was laughing my ass off, shit was intentional.
>>144345111
Why do Freyjafags cuck themselves and hope Mirage will win after Freyja sacrificing herself?
>>144342038
Mirage is a haft-Zent of cause she will win the waiting game
9000 hours on paint
>>144345154
>Millia's descendants can't win jackshit where it matters most
Poor Millia
HAPPY BURSDAY
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv - 0001.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Pv7yO6d.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv - 0001")
always cute
>>144344922
I like Minmay, Mylene, and Myung.
>>144345068
How come Gigil is never in any of these
>>144345253
the real best girl
>>144345231
she wont win too even though she has no competition if max was a japanese beta
>>144345154
I can hear Freyja's laughing sound from the pic.
>>144344922
>the onee-san is more likeable
Bullshit
>>144345152
>of cause she will win the waiting game
Like Guld, Mylene and Ranka right?
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_19.56_[2016.07.18_08.46.30].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ypE5sSG.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 19.56 [2016.07.18 08.46.30]")
Holy shit she was ready to let him touch her rune the slut.
>>144345688
Now that I think about it if Hayate were a Windermerean this would be when they'd touch runes, like Keith's and Roid's or Roid's with the King. Her rune's reaction also mimics Keith's ones when they felt Messer arrive in episode 10.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_20.46_[2016.07.18_05.47.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qPvnmCc.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 20.46 [2016.07.18 05.47.35]")
Messer died for this.
Imagine what if both Mirage and Frejya died.
>grim reaper ending
>>144345688
>Holyshit she let me touch her clit
>>144345818
DELET THIS
>>144341999
don't worry when freyja dies around her thirties she can then steal the Hayate bowl.
>>144344861
Ranka is good in both.
>>144345261
Nobody cares about 7's actual story
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_20.16_[2016.07.18_04.26.56].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SUtZ9nB.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 20.16 [2016.07.18 04.26.56]")
This is the face of a maiden in love if I've ever seen one.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv - 0003.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Io7f4SA.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv - 0003")
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].webm](https://i.imgur.com/dJuWDCq.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C]")
Holy fuck my heart hnnngg
>>144345068
>Physica
Dammit, forget about those little bitches whining about muh feelings, this here is pure suffering.
>>144345861
I like how you just want Mirage to be a pathetic loser who doesn't move on for 15 years and doesn't find someone new in that time. Like really?
>>144345688
That whole sequence was meta-erotic as fuck.
Mad Miragefag in Japan.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_21.10_[2016.07.18_08.48.21].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/JreIamX.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 21.10 [2016.07.18 08.48.21]")
>>144345891
I've always been on the winner's side, but now it seems I get to taste defeat.
It is a good pain.
>>144345688
"Anong the many seeded races of the Protoculture, none are more emotive than the Windermerean
Behold the Windermerean mating call
Notice the come hither eyes and natural extending of the rune toward the subject of romantic desire
It is said that when the Windermerean finds it's potential mate, it's rune extends to height levels it was unable to reach before. The Windermerean rune is considered a sexual organ so touching it is considered very forward by outside species. Thus, by naturally having a rune touched or extended, it shows the Windermerean is ready for impregnation'
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv - 0002.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/OB7lrKa.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv - 0002")
Hayate is a good harem master, next episode Mirage will be the happy one
>>144345936
Sounds good.
>>144345936
Is this from the official website?
>>144345862
No she's not. Movie Ranka is a more proactive character and her career looks more closer to something she grew into. Also the movies do the subplot of her connection to the Vajra much better without the romance deciding everything
>>144341999
Pretty much? Freyja's been in love with Hayate since episode 1, while Mirage only just now realized she loved him. There's no way to make up that difference, especially when she encouraged Hayate to fall in love with Freyja.
![[gg] Macross Delta - 16 00.21.08-00.21.10.webm](https://i.imgur.com/vcjowvC.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 00.21.08-00.21.10")
>>144345982
No I'm just pretending it's like a documentary scene
>>144345919
Such a butthurt.
>>144345992
What disease is that?
>>144346020
Ok, sorry for misunderstanding. It sounded kinda legit.
Who is the most /fa/ delta?
>>144346070
shinpi
>>144346066
uguuism
>>144345993
>Freyja's been in love with Hayate since episode 1
How much weed you used?
>>144346070
green
>>144344706
>>144344331
Well you know what, the write of this episode was 2011 Idol Master's main writer.
>>144346101
They both hit off pretty well since episode 1 and 2. Mutual attraction, but stays platonic
The sad thing is that at this point, no matter what asspull might come, it is far to late for Mirage to achieve any proper character development, let alone win the Hayabowl. Even as a Mirafag I have to admit that through the obvious one-sided writing, she already lost by default. I mean there was no competition whatsoever, they gave her as much depth as the merecats. Even if he had to, Kawamori should have stayed away from any form of love triangle this time and made her a regular supporting character. Seeing her like this is just pointless suffering.
>>144346144
Whoa really? He was projecting Chihaya to Mirage then.
>>144346070
Probably Kaname, actually.
>>144345688
>>144345936
>Glowing rune tentacle
Is Hayate being courted?Nothing that happens to Mirage, short of Freyja dying because of a mistake she made and Hayate getting pissed off at her, or her mistake causing Hayate to die, could possibly be any more painful than what happened to Aizawa Nagisa.
>>144346162
misa won during the last few episodes
Wait I thought the Happy Birthday song was copyrighted?
>>144346162
Here, here. The only solution, Miragefags, is to watch better anime. Preferably stuff that isn't based on light novels and doesn't include idols, because idols usually distort the relationships and romance so much that it's impossible for other girls to make any headway.
>>144346094
>shinpi
>/fa/
Exhibitionist isn't /fa/, Anon-kun.
>>144346121
>Green
Crossdresser isn't /fa/ either.
>>144346193
>Kaname
>Old hag
>/fa/
Leave it to basement /a/non to talk about /fa/
Hayate and Mirage have no chemistry. Let it go.
>>144346190
Yeah.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/people.php?id=75184
For idol shows she done before:
>(The) IDOLM@STER (TV) : Series Composition, Script (9 episodes)
>Wake Up, Girls! (TV) : Series Composition, Script (eps 1-12)
>hayate made it snow
Just like his father
>>144346263
Misa won after the final battle with Bodolza. Everything after that, while well-written and interesting, was mostly about Hikaru dispelling the last vestiges of his feelings for Minmay.
In this case, Hayate was pushed into thinking of Freyja as a love by Mirage, and she realized she loved Hayate in the same episode. If this were a normal series, I'd expect an S2 just because this development could be fodder for a lot more character development and episodes. Instead, it's basically confirming Freyja wins and Mirage gave up.
Is Messer a cuck?
What do you guys even see in Freyja?
>nobody ever celebrated by birthdays
FUCK ;_;
>>144346369
shes cute and is a good singer
>>144346263
>misa won
More like hikaru lost his first choice and settles with her second choice. I don't even remember that hikaru ever said that she love misa.
>>144341999
>>144342038
>mfw
fuck you Kawamori and your rampant favouritism
>>144346294
They should have used her before. She's pretty good.
Why does the new Op get better every time I hear it.
>>144346418
>Lost his first choice
He moved on. That's what normal human beings do. You love and you lose, you have good times, and you have bad times. Macross Delta is probably the first time where a pairing has been blatant and shipped so hard by the director. Even Frontier managed to keep you guessing as to how things would develop.
>>144346369
She put passionate in her work and important things.
>>144346418
>More like hikaru lost his first choice and settles with her second choice.
What's the difference with Freyja then?
>Freyja ded
>>HayaHaya lost his first choice and settles with her second choice.
>>144346369
Cute, friendly, genki, follows her dreams and has a dirty laugh, a better question would be how anyone can hate her.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv - 0004.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/C5xVN5U.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv - 0004")
only cuck in this show is messer
>>144346482
I dont think so ranka suffered a fucking lot. hse gets btfo harder and more often than mirage to this point in the same amount of episodes.
Is Mirage Ranka 2.0?
Messer is dead. The dead cannot be cucked
>>144346527
Not even close, why would you think she's Ranka 2.0?
>>144346527
No she is Zessica 2.0
>>144346273
>that titty and that kitty
SHIEEEEEEEET MAH DICK SON
>>144346539
>The dead cannot be cucked
Tell that to this guy
>>144346523
Not really, the triangle in frontier is much more balanced than in Delta.
>>144346563
Without popularity.
And charisma.
And sexiness.
>>144346594
>the triangle in frontier is much more balanced than in Delta.
Hahaha, not even close to balanced, Ranka got crushed hard it wasn't even funny.
>>144346563
No, she's better than Zessica.
>>144346594
I just re-watched it last week and I didnt get that feeling. Sheryl is one step ahead of Ranka the whole time and shes just chasing after her. At one point she gets so frustrated that she literally gives up.
>>144346617
>Without popularity
She got high ranking in moon pool and big fanbase in here and futaba.
>And charisma
Can be learned through her time as team leader
>And sexiness
Seriously? Are you blind?
>>144346619
>>144346662
I say more balanced than in delta. Alto still has some scenes and blush with ranka while hayate just don't give a fuck about mirage.
>>144346286
hayate is pretty /fa/ imo. And Mirage in her casual clothes (like in this episode) isn't bad either.
>>144346662
A bit like Mirage then.
She's so unsure of what she could do to gain Hayate's attention that she might have given up on that this episode. Did I read that right?
>>144346711
>She got high ranking in moon pool and big fanbase in here and futaba.
Nowhere near as close as how Zessica ranked or was liked in both Japan and here.
>Seriously? Are you blind?
Nowhere near as close as Zessica's slutty body.
>>144346711
>small tits
Here.
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_13.2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/AY5kGfP.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 13.2]")
So who will die in the next episode?
>>144341999
Wait up, where the fuck are they right now? Are those shops and stuff all aboard the ship?
It would be sad to see either of the girls lose since I like them both, but will they even get that far into the romance?
Love triangles are such bullshit, guaranteed suffering no matter what. Fuck you Kawamori
As a Freyjafag, I really do feel bad for Mirage. As much as I love Freyja, Mirage is a good girl too and she didn't deserve this.
>>144346575
Great artist.
Decent LN.
Cute waifu who is actually a lot like Mirage but a redhead.
But no fucking translations.
>>144345936
>read it as David Attenborough
FUCK
>>144346808
Mirage
>>144341999
>all that false flagging at the start with the others following them around making couple jokes
Kawamori you utter cunt
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_06_[B84C465E].mkv_snapshot_20.52_[2016.05.09_03.08.39].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SWNvgbP.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 06 [B84C465E].mkv snapshot 20.52 [2016.05.09 03.08.39]")
Looks like the tables have turned.
>>144346808
Arad, most likely. Or either Mastah or Cassim.
That or Freyja gets kidnapped / injuried / dies.
>>144346949
That's not include any romantic feeling.
>>144346886
>Decent LN.
How do you know if there are no translations?
Oh, that's cute.
SO we didn't get the reveal about Hayate's dad this ep, but that dialogue with Arad and NUNS guys practically confirms he is the windnuker.
Super interesting of Arad to say he was too kind though - I'm really curious about what made him drop the bomb.
Hayate angst over this is still incoming though - especially with the war about the heat up just like 7 years ago and all his concerns about following his father's path.
>>144344922
While I preferred Misa during the series, I definitely don't hate Minmay and feel pretty bad for her.
I also like Mylene and Mao.
Basically the comments here is saying that since Windermereans life span is short, mirage will have the chance to go for Hayate. Even Taiwanese people thought of that too
>>144346994
>No romantic feeling
If anything it's the very start of Freyja-->Hayate. Like "oh guy X and girl Y and going off together all the time...but, wait, why the hell does that bother me so much??"
How did chuck and the fish bros setup another business that fast?
Why is this series so bland? It does nothing wrong, but nothing right or interesting either.
>>144347146
>going for used good
>>144344570
>antagonists
they are the heroes
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_05.30_[2016.07.18_15.15.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qlBousq.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 05.30 [2016.07.18 15.15.02]")
>>144346070
Mirage is cool.
>>144347146
I can't believe Taiwanese people can think.
>>144347146
This is really low and unrespectful for all three characters.
>>144347146
Fuck, no. What I'd like to see is Mirage getting over her heartbreak. Hayate barely pays attention to her outside of her being someone dependable.
If he hurts Mirage for not noticing her feelings I'm going to be mad at him, though.
>>144347167
>Doubting Chuck and the fish bros
Also they evacuated with the restaurant.
Do you think Freyja will allow Hayate to be with her though?
She knows her lifespan is quite short, and I doubt she'd want Hayate to feel the pain when she passes away if they got together.
Or will there be some magic that increases her lifespan
>>144347327
Of course not, Freyja lost from the get go, a tragic ending is coming.
>>144347146
Everyone's going about how short lifespan = Freyja will shy away from settling down with Hayate / she'll lose the bowl.
While here I am thinking that, with her carp diem attitude, the knowledge that she doesn't have much time with Hayate will prompt Freyja to make the most of the time she does have left. As in, straight up confess (when she finally gets a clue) and live the rest of their limited days with each other.
The only way I can see her lifespan causing her to lose the bowl is if she realises that losing her will fuck Hayate up beyond repair, in which case I can see her pulling a 'I want my beloved to be happy' and stepping down. But I doubt that will happen. Gimme my bittersweet romances.
>>144347146
As chance to go for Hayate after Freyja lives her Windies years and dies?
That would pretty awful for the triangle, especially for Mirage and I have a feeling Hayate won't respond to her romantic feelings in that case.
It would be better for her to confess now and get rejected, rather than wait till Freyja dies and then grabs her opportunity.
>Macross Delta
I think they meant Macross: We forgot the action
>>144347353
>>144347356
As a miragefag, i lose hope in her. All the best for HayaFrey shippers. I can't tell in this episode, the moment Mirage realizes her feelings for hayate is also the moment where she has to step down from the triangle.
See!! A love triangle is solved within an episode so that the next 10 episodes can focus on the whole plot itself. *clap hands* What a genius writer. It really hurts my heart when i have to accept the fact that Mirage (a character with least development and no purpose in the story) have to step down.
>>144341999
>mikumo mentioning that no one celebrates her birthday
Fuck man that one sentence totally transformed how I view her character
>>144342060
Only reina
>>144347523
can tell
>>144347443
Everyone knows Macross is a SOL with robots in the background
>>144347523
Stop false flagging, Miragefags care about her personal development, not winning Hayatebowl or not.
>>144343971
Misa is a good girl with actual personality. Stop this meme.
So ok, say Mirage lose the triangle, then i need to deal with her still treating like trash and no development in next 10 or 11 episodes, right?
>>144344331
She is literally an awkward weirdo. It's her whole character. Autistic piloto
What is it about this show that makes it feel so immersive and fleshed out
>>144347605
Her so clearly losing early on could open the way for some good character development about her moving on. I'll be surprised if it does happen though.
>>144347605
yes, if the writers did nothing for Mirage for the next few episodes. Then i will have to say that Mirage is a fail character whose purpose is used only to push and motivate the Hayate.
>>144344922
>both side admit both girls were likeable.
>Mirage
>likeable
>not pitiable
Change that picture already. It's extremely wrong.
>>144347605
Nah, 'finding your own path' is a huge theme for Mirage - she's the one who brings it up in this episode even.
If she does loses, any development she'll get might be based around her feeling comfortable in her own skin / moving on from things (triangle, living up to her family legacy) and setting off on a new path.
So is Freiya going to die for our sake?
>>144347684
>>144347668
Well i'm not Miragefag, why i ask this question if it's exactly like what i said, the Macross Delta thread is going to even more fucked.
>>144347736
If an idol dies I honestly think it's gonna be Mikumo.
>>144347543
>Fuck man that one sentence totally transformed how I view her character
I thought it was already obvious that she was a lone/tragic outsider before that.
>>144345919
t/l there?
>>144347753
There was definitely a flag with the birthday thing. Kinda looks like they're going to frame her as a tragic misunderstood outcast who just can't assimilate. She might go out with some kind of "I never felt a part if anything so what does it matter" sentiment. I can see it getting heavy
>>144347781
Asking Mirage's moment(either romance or battle) just like many Miragefags here.
>>144347780
I always thought she was okay with it until now, though.
>>144347753
Mikumo is really mysterious, feels like she was a princess from a destroyed planet
>>144347723
>family legacy
Care to explain that to a deltaonlyfag, anon?
MIRAGE WILL NOT LOSE
NOT ON MY WATCH
I LIVE IN JAPAN AND WILL HUNT DOWN KAWAMORI IF HE EVER DARE TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN
>>144347146
>the only solace for Miragefags is the idea that she cucks herself and looks after Hayate after he's been with Freyja
>it's not even specific to /a/ or western countries
>it's the only conclusion by international consensus they literally can't think of anything else
If Mirage is expected to lose in this love triangle, then why show Mirage's sad scene. I don't get it though. That few seconds of that sad scene can literally cause a huge unrest in the fan community. What is the point man? Mirage is also a weak character, please don't scrutinize her for some other shit to make her even pity and sad. She deserves more love though
>>144347915
>the only solace for Miragefags is the idea that she cucks herself and looks after Hayate after he's been with Freyja
I can tell you in taiwan it's mostly Freyjafags say this, aka worrying.
But it's really annoying, really, why do they ever think this fucking stupid plot could happen at all? not to mention Macross Delta won't suddenly time skip over 10 years.
>>144347941
She's most likely going to get more love next episode.
Hayate has been doing the same thing like every other episode
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].webm](https://i.imgur.com/dCyUqzd.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C]")
How will Mirage top this
>God Bless You
The song is so comfy, I like it!
>>144347941
For making more discussion and waifu/shipping wars.
It works here, it also works in 2ch, 2chan and many places.
>>144347996
By getting her actual pussy out
>>144348006
It's by the same guy who did this one, in case you want to listen to something similar https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6N-uPqiCC0
>>144347941
From a writer's perspective it makes people feel for her and be on the edge of their seat because 'she might cry now but what if...' scenario.
I know it sounds cruel but don't forget that besides writing a story, the author uses their characters to hold the interest of the readers/viewers.
Personally, while I like HayaFrey, I'm still not sold it will be endgame even after this episode. Of course it boosted it's chances yesterday but I'm not sold yet. And it has nothing to do with Mirage because I believe she will confess. I think it will be Hayate not responding to her feelings.
>>144347892
She's the grand daughter of two incredibily famous and skilled pilots - Max and Milia (AKA the blue haired glasses guy and green haired girl we see Mirage talking about in an early episode). They're featured in the original macross series.
Not only did they have mad skillz, but they were the first instance of human/Zentradi coupling ever - coming right after the war between humans and Zents ended. So they're pretty well known throughout the galaxy.
Family legacy = Mirage's grandparents were godtier pilots, her mother (their daugther) was also a pilot, and now she's following in both their footsteps. Only right now she doesn't have the skills to back that legacy up, a fact which other people have pointed out to her a lot going by how hung up over it she is.
>>144348019
But nobody wants shipping wars to be made when the character they love is in no point in the ability to contest in this love triangle.
How many time HayaFrey got their moments VS HayaMira. Besides that, this birthday party already boosted the chances of Haya being together with Frey. Mirage's chance is close to nil.
That is why i don't understand why the writers have to be so cruel on Mirage knowing Frejya is gonna win the Hayate bowl. Just make her be happy as she is before and we as fans can proceed straight to the plot comfortably without any worries. But as you can see now, the worry is endless.
>>144346482
Why do people keep forgetting Zero's hopeless triangle?
>>144347941
The director said that he wanted the viewers to feel like they want to watch over the characters. And look at what happened with Mirage. Suddenly twitter was full of people feeling sorry for her and saying she is a really good girl, even those who were happy for HayaFre. She also got some more fanart. If they make her give up on Hayate and take care of HayaFre her popularity is going to skyrocket.
>>144348158
>But nobody wants shipping wars to be made when the character they love is in no point in the ability to contest in this love triangle.
It doesn't matter what's the reason, it just matter can it happen or not, and it can, so it happened, that's it.
>>144348127
Don't forget to mention she's also Mylene's niece, member of Fire Bomber and also a good pilot stuck in a show about pacifism. She has it tough.
>>144348203
Can contestant win a love triangle without any legit reasons? You did saw certain Frejyafags wanting legit answers from Miragefags on why Mirage is worthy to win this triangle, but the problem is there is basically no evidence to support whereas Ranka, Mao and the others have theirs to back up their claims.
They are both so good, /a/nons. I just want them both to be happy.
F for mirage
She needed to be keked in order to have some fan art.
>>144348079
can i get the name of the guy?
gonna use his songs for my insomnia problems.
>>144348316
Cute.
I hate reading this thread right now. So much blah blah blah. Over and over.
>>144348316
Mirage is so hot, holyhsit
>>144347877
>constantly says and does wierd stuff
>will rather hang around at the bottom of the ocean than come to the festival with everyone else
>doesn't understand why she sings, even though that's what she's most passionate about
>the flashback two episodes ago about her lost past where she was presumably doing her job and everything looked perfect
>no one celebrated Mikumo's birthday
Mikumo had a harder life than anyone else
>>144345818
>That huge separation
Arad, go for it already instead of wasting Messah's sacrifice.
>>144348401
We don't even know how old is she.
>>144348400
Fuck this was meant to reply to >>144347859
>>144348411
Foreshadowing that Arad will go the same way as Messer. Kaname's the real shinigami here.
>>144348299
You're not wrong, but you can't stop it.
>>144348079
>Just finished Aria the Avvenire a while ago
Damn you onion ninjas
No wonder God Bless You sounded so good though
>>144342042
>Miragefags on suicide watch.
Look mom I posted it again!
>We still don't know how pink and green became 'best' friends.
>>144345936
She most definitely wants to birth Hayate's kids.
I'm starting to regret that I'm watching it ongoing.
Pacing is really killing me. Almost nothing happens.
>>144348167
She should leave this stupid place(like back to M7) so she doesn't need to deal with this trashy treatment anymore.
>>144346369
episode 1
I'm a Miragefag and I've been one since before the show started. I thought I'd dislike Freyja, but I was pleasantly surprised to be proven wrong.
It's sad that Mirage has gone the way of Jeb Bush, but I shall remain loyal.
>>144348377
北川勝利
Also, I recommend all of ARIA's OST for insomnia problems. It's done by several different artists and composers, some of them are working on Delta right now, like Mina Kubota who did some of the OST's BGM and Heinz's songs (for ARIA she's behind this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3M8J1i-UwE).
>>144348079
ARIA music no wonder why this episode's song is so good.
>>144347146
>not installing mactype
kill yourself
>>144346343
Messer is dead.
>>144348488
I would watch 2 cours of their evolution from vitriolic colleagues to lesbian BFFs
>>144348446
Yeah, I'm probably just a dense fuck, but she always struck me as the type who enjoys that type of isolation and detachment. It just seemed like she always chose to be removed from the others and they had just accepted it as part of her character. Not to mention that she has an undeniable air of holier than thou. Like I said I'm retarded and probably missed a load of flags.
>>144344331
Urgh anon, I don't know what shit series you usually watch, but proper tv is more dynamic then what you wish for.
The heartbreak is what makes this scene so great. Removing it would make it nowhere near as good as it is now.
>>144346951
>Arad
Dude, no. Stop bullying Kaname.
>>144347941
if Messer was expected to die anyway why they spent many episodes featuring him?
>>144348509
I prefer it this way. They're really fleshing everything out and it's doing wonders for the sense of scale and believability for me.
>117 result of "Mirage"
With many more posts about her with "she/her", i mean, are you guys crazy.
>>144345891
>>144345926
Freya's sex faces are the best
http://macross-matome.net/delta-chat/6607/
Meanwhile some 2ch anons still think Mirage has a chance.
>>144348530
>mirage is Jeb!
This is a pretty hilarious and descriptive analogy.
>>144348530
But i dislike Freyja now, or i should say the writers.
> took Hayate from Mirage
> took most of the screen time from Mirage
> took Querele away from Mirage when Mirage needs something to cling to
> Frejya's constant "uhihi" and "hoina" took away Mirage's smile.
>>144347668
If they do that, Mirage will be GOAT.
>>144348743
Except everyone loves Freyja and Mirage constantly sits quietly in the corner at parties. No one notices or cares if her smile is gone. She does fuck all with her screen time too.
>>144348607
But anon, they can't show hatesex on telivision!
>>144348733
People should ask her development first before talk about winning the triangle, otherwise even she wins, it will a pathetic win.
>>144346369
I'm a Miragefag and this is what I see in Freya:
She's cute (as in genuinely cute and not moebait), has a really great personality, looks great and has an amazing singing voice. She embodies GENKI
She is just all around likeable
>>144348733
she will win obviously. Some bad is going to happen to Freyha.
>>144348401
Maybe if she's not being a shinpi bitch and actually tell people when her birthday is, they might celebrate it.
This is my first Macross so I would like to ask if by this episode the winner was obvious in the previous series.
>>144346759
Anon, she has great tits. The flight suit always makes her look flatter than she is. In normal clothing she has quite the rack
>>144348787
>She does fuck all with her screen time too.
And that's writers's fault.
But yup, with your reply, i am finally sure it's Tales of Zestiria for Macross, most funny part is even Alisha getting better treatment in TOZX now.
>>144348692
I guarantee you that a lot of it is by one guy based on the grammar.
>>144348825
You didn't think she might not even now it herself?
>>144346369
She is similar to my waifu, look and personality wise
>>144348803
>I'm a Miragefag
Stop false flagging.
>>144348804
Uhuh. And then final episodes has a triangle reset with a conclusion in the movie.
>>144348896
Whatever anon, they are both great. I root for Mirage but that doesn't mean I can't like Freya
>>144348825
>hey kumokumo, tell us your birthday
>i have no idea, but hayate's dad dug me out from under this rock at windermere on new year's eve some years back
>>144348840
>SDFM
No.
>7
Yes and no. One side of the triangle clearly didn't care about romance at all. The question was whether the girl would settle down with the other guy or not.
>Frontier
Not yet. In my opinion it didn't become really obvious until eps 18-19. Ep 22 sealed it.
>>144348608
To be fair, it was the last flashback that kind of really completed the puzzle.
It looked like a happy memory, which is why it's sad since it probably happened hundreds of thousands of years ago, and everything she knew and cared about is long gone.
>>144348634
>why they spent many episodes featuring him
His character have a purpose in the story. He even have his backstory as well plus he is actually considered the ace pilot of the delta platoon and a role model. But what about Mirage? She is basically struggling as a character and the writer basically did not give a shit about her while they gave her a heartbreaking episode.
>Mirage hugging Hayate in episode 14
>Hayate ignores mirage conversation to him
Its like she is throwing her feelings towards the dead flat wall. Even green + pink haired girl along with chuck even witnessed that shopping scene. Reina even comments that he is so darn dense towards Mira. Why must the writers force Mirage's feelings to reach hayate so hard that hayate doesn't even care, realize and respond mirage?
That is the problem, no matter how hard you force something to happens, it just never happens.
>>144348859
It's just the setup for her triumphant explosion into relevance and character development, don't you know?
>>144348946
>thousands of years ago
Wait what
>>144348946
Which episode was the flashback? I'll have to re watch
>>144348966
I hope Mirage's moment will be goes yandere, jump ship to windermere, and promise them she will kill all the people ignored her before.
>>144348535
Thanks, my famalia.
I'll go research on the artists now, while listening to their songs.
>>144348948
How can pink, green and Chunk realise Mirage's feelings but not Freyja's?
The snowball fight sequence was a wonderful set of 恋する乙女 expressions.
>HNNNNGHHH
>>144348892
>>144348931
If she has amnesia how does she know that no one has ever celebrate her birthday. Check mate atheist.
>>144349043
Hopefully. Nothing triggers me harder than the genki getting all the love because they're just the fucking loudest. I bet mirage would be much better conversation if anyone gave enough of a fuck to try
Wait, has nobody considered that Mirage is the one that gets shot down causing Hayate to scream?
The way I see it:
>Windies attack
>Hayate caught in Kieth dogfight
>Bogue goes stock footage mode
>Mirage ends up trying to protect Freyja for hers and Hayate's sake
>It looks as though she died, forcing Hayate to go murder mode like when Mirage almost died a while ago
>10 more episodes of Mirage suffering
Don't think so, he already did it with Zessica in Evol and that was a royal fuck up.
Surely the backslash from back then has taught him better.
>>144349075
>How can pink, green and Chunk realise Mirage's feelings but not Freyja's?
Ask the writer
>>144349120
I already brought that up two threads ago, no one actually response to my theory
>>144348167
>take care of HayaFre her popularity
You know what, i can see Mirage will do something like this: she don't try to chase Hayate anymore and help Freyja get even more closer to him, also putting her self in most dangerous position when in battle.
And if director and writer don't bullshit about she will face her true mind, then she will confess to Hayate before she dies(she don't need to sell CDs, killing her won't hurt in business way).
>>144349003
The most likely assumption is that she's protoculture or directly created by them, and the Protoculture died a really long time ago. I might be misremembering, but one of the previous shows quoted that they were destroyed like 500k years ago.
>>144349041
It was at the beginning of 14 I believe.
>>144343858
Human desires are limitless
>>144349186
the only thing could be that she has been in cyrostasis for a very very long time. Until she was found recently
>>144349120
>>144349171
Oh well, you 2 have similar thinking with me.
>>144349171
I just thought about it since Mirage really seems like she would try that at this point. Also, I really want to see Hayate enter murder mode and either remove Bogue or one of the twins.
>>144349120
I sure hope not. I'm tired of Mirage being a scrub. She needs to get her ass in gear instead of just sitting there with her mouth open the whole fight
>>144348743
Don't mess with the "hoina", anon. I'm warning you.
>>144348787
>Mirage is literally the "this party is too loud, my feet hurt, I wish i was back in my home playing games" anon
The bullying must stop.
>>144349242
>>144349233
That is what i thought, or maybe another case is that she sacrifices her life just to protect Frejya and Hayate. Then she will say a last words before valkyrie explodes. Somewhat similar to Subaru and Rem's case in the witch hideout.
>>144349232
She probably was in some kind of stasis, since she's so shinpi and is only recently recovering parts of her memories.
>>144349273
When are the doujins coming out when he's in rape-mode like that?
>>144349334
The fuck. There's no way this is gonna happen in Macross.
>>144349120
>DELTA FOUR, DELTA FOUUUAAAAAARRGGGHHH!
She went down the way she lived.
Screaming DELTA FOUR.
>>144349286
Ask the writer about that.
>>144349337
Most guess is that her found could be found in a cold sleep chamber in some ruins or in cold sleep tube floating around space after or during the windy's war of independence
>>144348316
>dat gap
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_19.59_[2016.07.18_07.06.35].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/GReWSRT.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 19.59 [2016.07.18 07.06.35]")
>>144341999
>Implying Hayate didn't trip a flag he didn't actually intend to
Freyja is best friend zoned. This scene is enough to tell. Trust me,I know my animes and Kawamoris is no exception.
>>144349077
I really love that scene that Hayate going to chase Freyja like how lover doesbut he stopped.FUCK I'm cried.
>>144349401
Actually, I can almost see her screaming HAYATE instead to somehow make him realize something.
>>144349120
Why the fuck do you even think someone got shot down?
My pic? It could easily just be Hayate suffering from another Freyja singing moment.
>>144349439
It's delicious. Say what you will about her piloting skill or her autismo but she's a total hottie.
>>144349331
On the contrary she needs the bullying. How else is she going to learn.
>>144349080
You're really dumb. You contradicted yourself so hard
>>144349488
Or the truth about his father being revealed.
I don't think he's in the cockpit.
>>144349120
Title is scatter on stage. So I thought it going to be something related to Mikumo.
>>144348733
What are they saying about kumo?
>>144348530
>>144348530
>>144348737
>Mirage is Jeb
poetry
sasuga, Kawamori
>>144349543
They talkin' shit about you're waifu.
>>144349487
But she already screamed HAYATE before.
>>144349388
You guys ask for something new in Macross, there is chance now.
>>144341999
>ep16
>implying Mirage has lost
LEL
The early favorite always lose in the end.
>>144349526
Based on the previews, it's Freyja who is scattering on stage. It's kinda getting annoying now how much she has do be focused on so much
>>144349626
They like to grasp at straws in this thread. Just let them chatter about it. On and on.
>>144349510
his father is the one who dropped the bomb, right?
>>144349571
I doubt that. Mikumo has been becoming more and more of a conversation to them for the past 3 episodes
>>144344313
outside of Delta being great your 2nd sentence is absolutely correct.
>>144349120
I guess that her dying now is better than 10 more chapters of bullying and it will make her have some impact on the story (hopefully)
also
>Bogue goes stock footage mode
kek
>>144342187
I just realized that Frejya will probably die immediately after she graduates from being an idol.
Miragefags BTFO
Walkure Attack remains in the top 10 for Orion daily Album sales. At this rate it might surpass Frontier first 2 album/singles
>>144349488
Hey, do you think Frejya's gonna die? Because judging from the previews, it somehow mirrors Frontier's movie where Alto feels sheryl's pain when wearing her earings. Maybe this time Hayate feels the pain when listening Frejya singing?
>>144349866
I think it's more about Hayate's father, like someone said.
Hayate's father killed Basara and it will trigger Freyja to hate Hayate.
>>144349710
Idk man. Freyjafags actually support their ships with facts and development. Miragefags keep saying "its always this girl in the end just you wait" since episode 1 and we've yet to see any development.
Sounds more like the ones grasping at straws are the Miragefags
>>144349927
Whut
Why does mirage like hayate again?
>>144350004
The blue hair
というかやっと始まったくらいなんじゃないの今回ので
こう切ないミラージュもよかったけど恋愛もいいけどパイロットとしてをやっぱ見たいよ…
What does this mean guys?
>>144349932
Artificial ones, their fact and developments are all fake based in a piece of jewelry and born of anon childish needs.
>>144347543
Its more that she has no memory of it. It again hints her having memory loss of who and what she is
>>144349932
>Miragefags keep saying "its always this girl in the end just you wait" since episode 1
You're trolling right, it just one shitposter(the one you quoted) keep doing this.
>>144350004
Yeah, I'm still confused about that shit. In episode 9 she sitting with Hayate on the beach but nothing happen and suddenly she being BLUSH and GASP in episode 10.
>>144350078
go easy on the salt
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_23.39_[2016.07.18_11.00.37].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6Ws6HpU.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 23.39 [2016.07.18 11.00.37]")
>>144349932
Kawamori simply got you fags hook, line and sinker. This anon has it right >>144349458
It sucks because I thought I was ready to watch Freyja lose but after this scene I realized I'm not.
>>144350078
Man you're really dumb. It's one thing to not like a shop but it's another to downplay it's development. HayaFre development and chemistry is miles ahead of the HayaMira one it's not even funny or comparable.
>>144350137
Maybe Frejya is more of a extrovert while Mirage is an introvert. This actually affects the way on how they communicate and convey their feelings to Hayate.
>>144343675
I wish hayate kissed her right then and there. That would have sealed the fucking deal. It was the best moment for it too.
>>144350314
It was the time, I agree. But we won't have such a development in a taiwanese shadow theatre anytime soon.
>>144350214
It would be okay for me if she lose because MUH SONG BEFORE DONG but in this episode she's look so happy being with Hayate, It's the face of someone who in love.
>>144341999
That hurt to watch. At least Ranka got blown out in the last half hour of a 2 hour move after 25 episodes of ambiguity.
>>144350314
It just like they're gonna fuck here if there're no one around and Hayate continually touching her rune.
>>144350288
Holyshit you made me want to hug Mirage more. I understand why Mikumo's VA like her because she want to protect her.
>>144350493
>Continually touching her rune
That ought to count as heavy sexual fondling
>>144350004
She doesn't interact with any other men her age due to her intense complex over her family's lineage for great piloto.
She doesn't really have any other reasons. As she said she doesn't really know anything about romance.
This is KENN, Bogue's VA. Sign me the fuck up for this bowl. My vagina folds want to resonate with him.
>>144345936
>tfw read this in David Attenboroughs voice
>>144350288
That's a good reason but with writing an introvert character and the way they feel things, think etc. usually makes the writer to focus a bit more about them in order to pass through the message to the viewer because it's difficult with them not talking, acting much to see how they process the external info and filter them.
I can see why she would fall for Hayate but she still needed more focus on her feeling-thought process to be more out there. Not to express it like Freyja, but more subtle moves or words are enough for the reader-viewer to notice them since these characters don't act a lot.
Reason why I find stupid how Reina, Maki and Chunk can notice her feelings for Hayate (maybe because the know her more than Freyja) than Freyja who is more in your face about them.
>>144350531
>She doesn't interact other men her age due to her intense complex over her family's lineage for great piloto
True fact. Furthermore, I think she is from a military background therefore on certain occasions we obviously see Mirage carrying Milia's traits in terms of discipline, strictness and serious discussion and everything she does is based on books, rules and so on. Finally she hardly speaks freely around people.
>she doesn't really know anything about romance
Point proven in latest episode but not sure whether Hayate was listening or not.
Normally a girl who is introvert will have problems dealing with others or even crush. Thus the boy is expected to realize her feelings.
>>144350678
>You will never see KENN in cat ears speaking in a sexy Bogue voice.
>>144345936
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7QZnwKqopo
i just realized that the reason why i like mirage because we operate on the mindset, going by this i could see her supporting freya all while dyong inside
>>144350791
I wouldn't trust Reina and Makina's judgement on shipping. I mean they shipped MesserKaname and look how that turned out. Messer's dead af.
>>144350678
>>144350809
Not a cat but it's the closest thing I could find.
>>144350876
They were right about Messer liking Kaname who likes Arad.
Bogue x Reina.
>>144350366
Exactly, and it's even worst when you realize she knows she'll be a grandma in her deathbed by the time Hayate is in his prime. Why is Kawamori such a sadist?
>>144350947
The way they reach old age, Freyja will be a hot ara-ara the day she dies.
I want to drop this since Mirage is probably going to lose, but I'm already in too deep so I might as well finish.
>touching her rune-rune
>>144350947
Even she's look happy here I started to cried when I thinking about her lifespan. How can she hide her sad feeling with that creepy smile and creepy laughing sound. She's too pure and too great for this world.
>>144342816
Thanks to Mao we have Sheryl, so I kind of like her.
>>144351144
You shouldn't drop it because she's gonna lose.
However, if you don't see her getting any personal development in next 1 or 2 episodes, you can drop it then.
>>144350004
Because ever since he joined Delta Squad he's been constantly around her, sharing their troubles about Messer, encouraging her to get over her anxieties, and generally being her emotional support. Even in combat they fight as a duo where he has saved her life a few times.
As a single woman,hell even as just a single person it's hard to not like someone under those circumstances. Even more so when you're like Mirage and haven't had many actual friends.
>>144343064
Maybe. I forget what VAR vision looks like,but I think we've seen it before.
Holy shit Freyja wants to be impregnated.
Holy shit seeing that final scene actually physically pained me. The worst part is I like both Mirage and Frey and wouldn't mind either of them winning so shit's going to be horrible watching one lose.
Fuck me. Let's go back to the Windermeres being complete fucbois again so that I can calm down after this episode.
>>144343048
Obviously you dont get it.
>>144341999
Poor Mirage.
I'm a "Freyjafag" but i never wanted them to get hurt. I like all of Delta's characters.
>>144343064
I mean if she was VARing him with the wind buffs, it's not like it will have any effect.
It's not like it'll slowly kill him?
It's not like he might go crazy?
It's not like that plus the fold crystal is drawing him to her?
It's not like she's subconsciously making him fall for her?
Right? Right? RIGHT?
>>144344313
That's a big issue, Mirage should have her own plot to develop or a stronger presence in the existing ones.
The narrative has been not mediocre but below average so far.
>>144351431
>putting quotations on freyjafag
I bet you talk about ships on your tumblr too faggot.
>>144344390
you would be a mediocre writer anon
>>144351460
The narrative is perfectly fine. The only criteria in which you could ever suggest it had under performed is as a 'macross' show. Were you unaware for the mandatory love triangle nonesense it would be fine. She's just a friendly supporting character like Mikumo or Kaname.
>>144344758
You are retarded for not understanding the point of the critics in the whole thread and past one.
>>144344533
>another Misa scenario will happen,
My memory fails me, which thing happened to Misa?
>>144346369
Hibikek
>>144344861
They truly runied Ranka in the series.
>>144345050
site is 18+
>>144351573
Other than second half of s3, Symphogear's character development is miles better than Macross Delta.
>>144344990
They are shipping Ranka with her brother? Thats so desperate
>>144350791
Just a sharing of experience since i'm also an introvert:-
>Quiet most of the time.
>Could not initiate a proper topic for the right time.
>Oblige to obey rules or pay respect to teachers and so on
>Hates chit-chatting and gossiping
>Always stay in comfort zone
>Being cautious while saying something
>Have not much things to talk about
>Hate others who are outgoing and those who are attention seekers
>Always live up to people's expectations. Always try to get better.
>When it comes to nonsensical arguments, i always fail.
>Feeling of wanting to be accepted or recognized by others
>Always concern about others first than only myself
>Often reads people's intentions and often being analytical in any situation.
>Often consoles and advise people.
These are the things i had experienced so far. Of course i have gotten over it. There is always a balance in things, sometimes i believe upbringing and the surroundings that we grow up with can also affect our personality as well.
I remember i failed to secure my first love due to this one guy who is outgoing, sweet talks a lot, very decisive and he is aggressive in expressing himself. A common scenario i see myself in this latest episode is when Mirage was having resting at a bench with Hayate, instead of finding a better topic, she ends up talking about something serious which is about his dad. There was a couple of times where i did bring up such serious topics about school and stuff when i dated the girl i loved. I know it's not a bad topic after all just like mirage, but i believe she could bring up something better to chat with hayate based on my experience. Most of the time you can tell is the topic she brings up is about Military, other's concern and so on, nothing about herself to relate with Hayate.
But all these are not mandatory and can be changed through the course of time. Sorry for the long message guys.
>>144346369
Initially she wasn't as bad as Ranka but the staff keeps pushing the same mistakes as Frontier so she's becoming hated or hated already.
>>144351573
Ooh this would explain it. I'm a fan of both but I never really saw the two as similar.
>>144351435
>It's not like that plus the fold crystal is drawing him to her?
>It's not like she's subconsciously making him fall for her?
>Right? Right? RIGHT?
Now that's just desperate thinking.
>>144346563
There's not much in common between them. Mirage is better.
>>144351760
It's called having good taste.
>>144351778
Nice blog, famalama dingdong.
>>144346662
Nothing was certain until episode 22 tho. And even then, 23 and 24 were a true storm of emotions.
Delta has failed to deliver.
>>144351478
I quoted Freyjafag because i dont engage in the waifu shitposting wars. Why you would want the opposing girls to be miserable is beyond me.
>>144351821
Stop spreading lies. The only people that hate her are Miragefags because their girl is getting tremendously fucked over and isn't winning.
Freyja is still the fan favorite and top cash earner of Delta.
>>144347265
He hasn't realized what he feels for Mirage yet. Confession scenes are mandatory.
>>144351778
subscribed +1!
now fuck off
>>144351922
Dude seriously? Ranka was never even in the running and if she was, Sheryl was like 10 miles ahead the whole time. Just accept it.
>>144351760
>Not shipping BreRan
Their interaction are cute as fuck in episode 19.
>>144347523
>genius writter
boy your standards are low
>>144351760
>Seriously implying BreRan wasn't always the superior pairing
>>144351821
Freyja is nothing like Ranka, but I do agree that the staff favoritism is starting to hurt Delta and I'm starting to get sick of them pushing Freyja as a perfect girl.
>>144347941
I would like to think there is mater pan behind with futures twists incoming, but plain bad writing is most likely.
>>144351974
>Xfag means waifu wars
So you're confirmed for new then.
>>144346343
Have some respect anon!
>>144352043
>10 miles ahead the whole time
If you have selective memory. While Sheryl is ahead of ranka, it's more like 60-40.
>>144352116
>perfect
WUT
>>144352139
>Xfag means waifu wars
Not my fault that you're blind and you cant see the state of these thread.
>>144348530
Frreyja is a bad character because they are basing her in taking things away from Mirage and others, particularly screen time, which she suck up to the limit.
>>144352113
>BreRan
>pairing
What the fuck is going on here. This intensity isn't ironic. Wanting a girl to win is one thing but pairings and unironic 'ships' is a whole other fucking level.
>>144352001
Do you honestly think Hayate will be "oh! Yeah Mirage! I like you too."
Hayate -whenever Mirage is opening her heart to me about being worried about getting VAR'ed and how shes insecure in love but instead I ignore her and proceed to make the situation about Freyja- Immelman
>>144352155
>60-40
kek. It was onesided as fuck. 90-10 if we're being generous
>>144352116
Maybe Freyja can eventually climb on Mirage's Valk and shoot down SHIROKISHI without breaking a sweat.
Then Hayate will go "Freyja is sugoi..."
>>144348733
It's like Mirage keep being prepared for something big but we keep waiting and her developments don't begin yet.
Episode 16 is a bad sign, she should have already started it, she's more than ready.
>>144350947
>Exactly, and it's even worst when you realize she knows she'll be a grandma in her deathbed by the time Hayate is in his prime. Why is Kawamori such a sadist?
No one complained about human males marrying the long-lived Meltrans before. Why do you complain now? What's the difference here?
>>144352229
It's one of the more popular ships. It was hinted heavily in a frontier side manga, that also had Brera revealed to be adopted. It didn't come out of thin air, anon.
Good development would be Mirage punching Hayate's face and stomach rather hard as she almost did in the beginning.
He has made himself already worthy of such beating by being an idiot.
>>144349472
PTSD?
>>144352373
You're not really responding to the thrust of my post friendo.
>>144352306
Fuck,I suddenly want that so hard. Sheryl's piloting scene was so GOAT.
>>144347914
I wonder if Kawamori ever feels safe after all the fans of the losers (Minmay, Ranka, Mao, Guld and Maylene) want to lynch/murder him.
>>144352443
>friends who don't want to fuck you deserve a beating
>you have to indulge every desperate bint that you meet
Good to know.
>>144352317
I kind of think they should have combined Messer and Mirage into one character and instead of dying they are heavily injured and are moved into a non combat role which leads to them starting to mellow out. The show says that Mirage is Hayate's instructor, but Messer had a much bigger influence on the guy.
>>144350222
Still artificial.
By adding the jewel thing so many times over and over again they have permanently diminished their relationship.
>>144341999
yeah, mirage confirmed for winner now that we're seeing the other girl "win" first. its always the second choice in macross.
>>144352543
>fans of Guld
Were there ever any?
>>144352549
They should gender swap Keith or replace Keith with Mirage.
>>144352593
I LOVE KANAME!
![[gg]_Macross_Delta_-_16_[B6749C6C].mkv_snapshot_21.08_[2016.07.18_13.13.42].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6rqyjGJ.jpg "[gg] Macross Delta - 16 [B6749C6C].mkv snapshot 21.08 [2016.07.18 13.13.42]")
Her ovaries just exploded.
second season's OST has been fucking garbage, I cannot get hyped to watch the show anymore with that shitty OP and the new insert song was meh as fuck. Need more Mikumo songs
The ED is okayish but It's not WOWOWOW
>>144352543
He gets used to it
>>144352606
i brought this up too the other thread, it even fits the triangle better tho. Having Mirage as the ace of the Aerial Knights is a wise choice.
>>144351521
That's mediocre narrative. You don't put someone in the spotlight just to hid her under a rug every single time she has a chance to develop.
>>144352606
Well the issue is how do you develop the romantic side of that triangle without using sunrise island unless you want to focus purely on the rivalry side.
Why do so many of you assume Freyja is even going to get married and have children? Remember that she was left her homeland and everyone she knew behind in order to specifically get away from all of that.
>>144351975
>>144352116
The same stupidity that made Mikono the most hated one.
Meanwhile in FB
>>144352753
She really left because she wanted to sing and reach people with her songs - she says so herself this ep.
>>144352795
KYS
>>144352239
>more mediocrity from the staff of writers.
That only makes Hayate a poor MC by following such wornt-out cliches.
>>144352591
I'm a sucker for bad guys realizing the error of their ways and then suiciding for their reclaimed friends
>>144352701
She isn't under the spot light at all though. In the actual show, not the promo and meta stuff, she's just a side character.
>>144352795
Fuck off normalfags
>>144352548
For taken her for granted and not smart enough to understand her feelings. There is a point where that stops being cute/naive and just becomes insulting.
>>144352759
>>144352555
Here you go. This should help with your butthurt.
By adding the jewel thing so many times over
>>144352923
She is in the spotlight by being part of the triangle. This is a Macross series.
>>144352941
>>144352842
Why do you guys hate facebook so much?
>>144352795
>We getting another Misa-Hikaru-Minmay triangle?
Did this faggot know that Hikaru's chasing after Minmay while Minmay doesn't give a fuck about him?
>>144352974
If cheap storytelling is your thing, be my guess anon.
>>144347996
She doesn't need to in order to win.
>>144352996
So again, the narrative is just fine. It's only the meta of it being a macross series that brings it into question. Thanks for confirming.
Please readjust your bitching from here on out.
>>144352996
Yea, supposedly "main" character with the least character development and role to play in the triangle compare Ranka, Mao, Minmay
>>144352947
He doesn't need or want to understand her feelings. If she cared so much she'd make it clear. No one to blame but herself. You can't go around expecting others to understand you without cause and reason.
new bread
>>144353154
>>144353154
>>144353154
>>144353177
Let that useless bait thread die
>>144346563
Sassy Zessica is much better than Mirage, but depressed Zessica is much worse.
>>144353078
A Macross series has requirements that must be met for the main trio; Delta is failing up to 16.
Well, it looks like its failing, maybe there are good thing to come but I can just speak for what we have.
>>144353111
Zero's timeframe was very short so there is an excuse for Mao.
But Ranka and Minmay had many many developments over the course of their series, you didn't have to wait the last 8 episodes for them to happen.
>>144353127
But that's wrong.
If he doesn't notice there will come a point where is his fault because it's *in his face*and things are expected from the MC; there is no excuse in "he has no obligation".
Even Alto understood perfectly and decided to postpone his own feelings (there was a reasoning) but Hayate doesn't get it in his skull yet and we are up to 17 already.
>>144345688
If you listen carefully, he DID touch her rune.
>>144353343
But mirage being part of the trying is not subtle until the end of episode 16. Isn't it too late to begin a triangle like that? We literally know jack shit about her character and all of a sudden more than half episodes down the road participates in love triangle contest.
Frontier is literally the worst Macross and its awful fanbase is constantly ruining Delta threads.
>>144352795
Kedar knows what's up
New thread
>>144353912
>>144353912
>>144353932
We're in here
>>144353154
>>144353998
>Frontier
sasuga cancerous generalfags chaining threads
