Macross Frontier

>>144353154
>Frontier
You wat, nigger?

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>>144353193
AH FUCK, whatever, same thing anyway

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How wet?

i'm starting to think mirage might not win the bowl

>>144353263
>dat symbolism

pottery

>>144353285
Level of wetness: Hoina/10

>>144353285
SHE WANTS TO FUCK

>>144353285

But she's like 50 in human years, most likely already had her menopause

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>>144353285
GORIGORI/10

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>Ima anata no koe ga kikoeru koko ni oideto

will it happen?

Delta triangle is broken because there is no triangle to begin with. It was all a... Mirage...

>>144353393
>Mikumo sing DYRL
10/10 would listen to her song.

>>144353420
It would be true if Mirage didn't exist

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>>144353285
Gori Gori/10

Hayate about to cream his pants

KYUN KYUN, KYUN KYUN!

>>144353343
A series just tells a story. Whether you like it or not is irrelevant. Macross never needed to have every iteration be a love triangle, it's just worked out that way. SDF could easily have been followed up in a satisfying way without ANYTHING like that. As such, no, she doesn't need to be a main character. She likes Hayate. That means there's a triangle. Criteria fullfilled. past that Hayate and Freyja, Roid and Headwindyfag are the main characters. Heinz and Mirage are just side characters like Bouge or Mikumo.

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>>144353494

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>>144353537

What is that face trying to express?

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>>144353599

>>144353510
Who cares though?
What has she done that makes it clear she likes him. Helping him buy some other girl, that he has chemistry with, gifts? Working with him? Living in the same ship/apartment complex? By the same definition half of Walkure is into him as well.

Mirage either needs to make herself clear or take her crying in a corner off screen. None of this is Hayate's fault.

>>144353577
But that's wrong. There exist an obligation of a love triangle in Macross, it's the way things have been established over the decades.

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>>144353537
This is too cute. I slapped my face many time when it was airing because I can't believe it, I mean that dense gay who shouting "MUH SKY" while sexy girl press her boobs on his back actually blush for real.

>>144353377
>comparing life span to physiological development
This meme needs to stop.

>>144353599
>Shiny~

>>144353577
That's plain and simple disrespectful.
The franchise needs to show respect for their own pillars.

>>144353285
Wetter than all of Ragna.

>>144353343
But mirage being part of the trying is not subtle until the end of episode 16. Isn't it too late to begin a triangle like that? We literally know jack shit about her character and all of a sudden more than half episodes down the road participates in the love triangle contest.

>>144353420
>>144353494

>Kawamori is a Kojima-tier ruseman

>>144353285
Soaking wet.

>>144353552
But anon, mirage doesn't sing.

>>144353789
part of the triangle, shit auto correct.

>>144353537
>SHE LET ME TOUCH HER CLIT

>>144353760
>>144353681
It's fulfilled its obligation. There is a triangle. Hayate, the main character, is in a triangle. No disrespect required.

The only thing is one of the members of the triangle is a supporting character. It's easy as that.

>>144353681
It's a faint triangle. Kawamori already said everything would turn out different from previous Macross series so no use basing on the past.

A triangle does not need to be equal to be a triangle. As long as 3 people are in it it's a triangle.

Freyja-><-Hayate <-Mirage

There. That's the triangle. Triangles aren't always 50-50. Let's move on now.

>>144353791
I've only seen Delta and SDF. Do I get a prize?

Have i told you how much i love Kaname?

>>144353907
>Kawamori already said everything would turn out different from previous Macross series
Yeah like the triangle just being there for pretence and the series being a unapologetic war romance.

>>144354037
Kaname is best pre-Freyja walkure.

>>144354037
Stay dead Messah-kun. ;_;

>>144353681
>>144353760
Are you literally faulting Delta for not doing the same thing as early Macross series with respect to a certain aspect?

You do realize every iteration is actually quite different from each other despite the superficial similarities, right? The love triange is basically non-existant in 7, for example.

>>144354081
This.

So, no replying to hayate wanting to touch freyja's rune was a sing of admiting her love?

>>144354111
They are. They need something to blame. They were lulled into believing that Mirage would be a real character. They got invested in her. Excited to learn more about her. Keen to see her thrive as a pilot.

Instead she gets less screen time than Mikumo for half the episodes and every single romantic scene she is in revolves around or just plain stars, Freyja.

I'd be pissy if I was them but I don't have shit taste. So thank God for that.

Daily reminder that 7 is the best Macross and you should stop posting in these threads until watching it.

>>144353681
who won in Macross II again? the blue-hair girl?

What Kawamori needs to say: "Hey, so I know y'all are huge Macrossfags but idk maybe you can look at each Macross series as an individual art. Because that's why they are. INDIVIDUAL STORIES NOT A COPY PASTE OF EACH OTHER."

>>144354251
>not SDF

>>144354251
>SDF
fixed

>>144354251
watched all of them. I especially hated 7 though the space whale ova was good.

>>144354269
ESL-kun please

I don't know why people are saying that Hayate alsmot touched Freyja's rune. He ACTUALLY touched it.

>>144354264
No. Sylvie won out of nowhere. Mimic the end of the original

>>144354185
He just want to tease her as usual. He being like "Haha I will touch this chick' rune and she will called me ecchi. W-wait WAT Holyshit she let me touch it. Why the fuck did I blushing"

>>144354361
They have better depth perception, Scott.

>>144354290
>>144354301
Maybe if it didn't have awful writing after the forced extension.

>>144354420
But worse hearing. You can hear him touching the rune.

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>>144354361
Yeah if you listen carefully you will hear touching sound.

>>144354251
>>144354290
>>144354301
Delta is the best so far.

End of Macross Delta is Hayate dancing to SuperBass in the sky using Messer's siegfried. Messer rises from the grave to kill himself again.

>>144354528
DO IT PLEASE KAWAMORI
DO IT PLEASE KAWAMORI
DO IT PLEASE KAWAMORI

SLEEP TIGHT FREYER

>>144354449
Well that's sort of true. The psuedo ending was pretty good.

>>144354475
Stop being a namefag

>>144353870
>>144353907
The focus is very poorly distributed.

>>144354111
It's not treating it's own foundations with respect, that's a problem down to very specific details, like Mirage being a literal island without any emotional support.

All for the the sake of one character stealing spotlight from every single plot in the series, that's another problem.

Seven had the relationship shenanigans established clearly as a joke from episode 1, everything was clearly for lulz.

Judging by the end of the episode, it has been confirmed that Mirage lost the Hayate bowl. Sad.

>>144354762
>The focus is very poorly distributed.
It never needed to be. This is your own imaginary requirement.

>>144353263
This scene was made really well.

>>144354799
Don't you have a convention to be at, Donald?

>>144354829
It's a non-mediocre requirement.

misa hardly appeared for most of the first macross

Hayate said "if you like someone you should just confess"

I'm just waiting to see if he'll stick to his words, if not I'ma call bullshit and call him a hypocrite.

I want to protect Mirage's smile

>>144354888
Your opinions are entirely mediocre.

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>This isn't what Macross is supposed to be! I know better than Kawamori!
These threads are bonkers.

>>144355043
Yeah man it's some next level shit.

I'm worried Freyja got her moment with Hayate too early. We have around 8-10 episodes left and a lot can happen in that time. Mirage has plenty of time to get closer to Hayate. And it really doesn't help that everyone was following the two of them while they were looking for presents for Freyja and acting like they should be a couple. It's foreshadowing to an obscene degree that Mirage will most likely win in the end.

>>144353552
ICHIDO DAKEDO

>>144354956
uhu

Delta is pointing out to be a disappointing entrance in the relationships aspect after a single episode.
Well, after 16 episodes of preconditions but its like the straw that broke the camel's back.

The weird thing is that it's too blatant, feels almost like a setup for things to improve very soon.

At least the mystical plot carried by Mikumo is moving smoothly.

>has been told by others that she needed to get married since she was 11- or 12-years-old
>on her 15th birthday lets an Earthling touch her glowing rune while blushing and seductive face

So ready to fuck.

>>144354888
No it's not. What do you even want out of this? Do you want Macross to showcase even more how badly Mirage is getting shafted in the triangle.

We've been over this. Mirage isn't getting more development in the romantic area because she was never meant to be a serious contender. Pale triangle.

Not everything is even. Learn to accept that. Characters have different settings and different purposes. Mirage will get her time to develop as a character (if the staff allow it) but don't expect her to get development in the romance area. We're on to episode 17 already with 2 episode throwing away two perfect scenarios for HayaMira development and the staff threw them away. There's your answer. Mirage was never going to be a front runner in Hayate's heart. HayaFre was slowly developed throughout 15 episodes with their realization happening in episode 16 in one swoop.

Best thing that can happen to Mirage is to develop and be able to stand on her own two feet.

>>144353285
Niagara falls/10

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>>144355152
Exactly, I don't know what other Freyjafags are all optimistic about. I'm just bracing for more suffering.

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>>144355043
I am disappointed but not surprised that Delta threads are turning out to be 95% shipping crap and 5% Frontier nostalgiafags.

>>144355152
I'm worried Zessica got her moment with Amata too early. We have around 8-10 episodes left and a lot can happen in that time. Zessica has plenty of time to get closer to Amata.

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>>144353300
Gee, you think?

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>>144355226
There're too much sexual tension here. I hope they fuck in this moment, I want snow and winter fuck scene so much.

>>144354762
What the hell does "not treating it's own foundations with respect" even mean? That's such a vague thing that can be applied to anything that is remotely different from previous series. I can easily say 7 was "disrespectful" because it established love triangle aspect clealy as a joke. How dare they, right? Because love triangle is clearly serious business and it's against "Macross spirit" to do otherwise.

Even without the vagueness, that's such a bullshit way to claim Delta has bad writing. Someone watching Delta without the whole meta stupidity wouldn't find much fault with Mirage's screentime. Also this >>144354269

>>144355269
I'm ready for the suffering, watching her smile in this episode is fucking painful when I think that she will suffer in the future.

>>144353263
I fucking loved that scene, for real.

>>144355269
>not appreciating the gift of time and shitposting at Miragefags while you have the advantage
You're just no fun Kouhai, an embarrassment to Freyjafags.

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>>144355321
It was obvious from the start that Zessica was not a serious contender for the Aqua Lion. The only reason Zessicafags got so delusional about her chances was that Mikono was widely disliked.

>>144355152
Yeah, it can happen but it would need massive development for both Mirage and her relationship with Hayate, which at this point it will probably be weak.

I know many things can change in 8-10 episodes but from what we gathered from the event reports, magazines etc. the focus will mostly remain on Freyja and Hayate, plus Mikumo and the Windies as we are getting closer to the big battle and Mikumo's origins. Maybe they will surprise us with Mirage as they did in this episode, who knows, but unless they start giving her more focus I can't see how she can win without calling it bullshit from a writting's perspective.

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>>144355373
Mirage's face when

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>rune just briefly lights up when she's surprised by everyone for her birthday
>rune erect the entire time with Hayate in the snow

Meanwhile, he ditched Mirage with the quickness as soon as he figured out what to get Freyja, despite being the one to invite her out to help him.

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How can Mirage even compete? Mirage fags on suicide watch!

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Movie when, i need my huge detailed mechs.

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>>144355628
It's a face of someone who in love.;_; Yeah also it's painful watching Makina and Chuck try to match making them but Hayate is too dense to notice Mirage's feeling.

>>144355696
>implying they aren't already dead

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Freyja has been protecting people's smiles since she was young. She truly is a miracle.

>>144355261
They have made Mirage an emotional island without friends or family or struggles (previous to meeting Hayate) or a rival. Only to contrast her current suffering with other character's development.

That's mediocre writing and a very cheap way to handle things.

>>144355899
She still have friends who support her and help her get with Hayate. I don't know if they do this for their own fun thought.

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>>144355899
cry harder mirage-fag, just like youre shitty waifu

>>144355986
Ranka had friends [nanase] and Misa [claudia].
Mirage has barely acquaintances. Actually she almost doesn't talk to anyone except Hayate.

>>144356044
>average /a/non

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>>144356092

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>>144355882
Just look how cute she is, too pure for this world. I can't even thinking about fucking her.

>>144355899
I don't think anyone disagrees with the way they are handling Mirage is bad, both her as a character and as part of the triangle, but thing is there is nothing we can do about it and move on.

I am sure she will have a big moment later on with Hayate that will challenge her feelings and even confess because so far I haven't seen why Hayate should fall for Mirage, and not choose Freyja who has more of a closer relationship with and someone falling for her it's reasonable. I can see why both can fall for him but not the other way around for Mirage.

Of course we have around 10 episodes till the end and anything can change but it would need the writting to focus more on Mirage starting next episode which I don't see it happening soon.

>>144356124
cool

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Fuck you Keith.
Fuck youuuuuuu

>This episode's Freyja faces
I'm actually in love now, fuck you Kawamori you glorious bastard.

>>144356161
>I am sure she will have a big moment later on
Been hearing this since literally episode 4

What Miragefags are expecting:

Hey Freyja, so like, I know we share this deep bond and we resonate, you boost my power and I can feel your emotions. And like I know you were what inspired me to chase a dream again even when I was all broody and had no interest in anything. I'm constantly inspired by you and your words echo in my mind. You're really fun to be around and you're always making me smile and laugh and feel good about myself. I'm always looking at you with adoration and shit. Also I know I'm always looking out for you and jumping in danger to protect you. Oh, yeah I'm kind of the biggest Freyjafag ever. Uh, I tried really hard to find the perfect gift for you because I wanted to make you happy. I made it snow and you loved it and then we proceeded to have a very special moment where I realized that maybe kind of perhaps I'm in love with you.

But...I'm gonna have to throw that all away because I choose Mirage whom I constantly ignore when she's trying to tell me personal important things and I turn it to be about you. But yeah, I've made up my mind: Mirage over our special connection. Kthanx bye.

P.S: Please don't hold it against me. It's because past macross series made me do it.

>>144355899
>>144356044
>>144356139

Why are people bitching about asymmetrical love interests like it hasn't happened before in Macross?

Pretty sure Plus already set a similar precedent.

Isamu <---> Myung <--- Guld

Freyja <---> Hayate <--- Mirage

Oh shit! Get fucked Miragefags. I'm a runemissile now.

>Frejya, females MC gets everything
>Hayate, male MC gets everything as well.
>Mirage, supposedly MC end up being side lined without any development.
Delta has shown fans a new direction of love triangle.

>>144356237
Average storytelling and characters handling would suffice.

>>144356264
WUT? My loli Freyja did nothing wrong. Calm down shitposter.

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>>144356211
You're not alone, anon. I was nearly crying here.
I don't want her to die this early. Why do good people always have to die young ;_;

>>144356237
Pretty much. Mirage route was a mirage from the very beginning.

>>144356264
Myung was fucking guld though

>>144355373
I NEED doujins of this idea.

>>144356267
Just like Zero. Or Nobunaga the Fool. Or Sousei. Or Evol.

>>144356343
No one's denying that Mirage's character development is practically non-existant. Only way Mirage's character is saveable at this point is if she stops focusing on the triangle and begins to work on herself.

We're too far gone into the series for Mirage to win the triangle, all odds are against her. From here on out what we need is for her to stand up as a standalone character that will focus on becoming a better version of themselves.

>>144356237
What about not founding hayate x freyja relationship over a piece of jewelry as if it was fanfiction tier.

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What will Freyer do when NUNs nuke her village?

I really hope this episode settles the triangle so Mirage can develop on her own. Maybe even have her act as a matchmaker for hayate and freyja since their relationship is bound to be awkward with daddy issues and shit.

>>144356514
You're dumb as fuck.

Ok, let's say we take out the fold quartz. Here's my EDITED "fanfiction" to serve your highness' needs:

Hey Freyja, so like, I know we share this deep bond of friendship, loyalty and trust. And like I know you were what inspired me to chase a dream again even when I was all broody and had no interest in anything. I'm constantly inspired by you and your words echo in my mind. You're really fun to be around and you're always making me smile and laugh and feel good about myself. I'm always looking at you with adoration and shit. Also I know I'm always looking out for you and jumping in danger to protect you. Oh, yeah I'm kind of the biggest Freyjafag ever. Uh, I tried really hard to find the perfect gift for you because I wanted to make you happy. I made it snow and you loved it and then we proceeded to have a very special moment where I realized that maybe kind of perhaps I'm in love with you.

But...I'm gonna have to throw that all away because I choose Mirage whom I constantly ignore when she's trying to tell me personal important things and I turn it to be about you. But yeah, I've made up my mind: Mirage over our special connection. Kthanx bye.

P.S: Please don't hold it against me. It's because past macross series made me do it.

---
There. Was that better? I took out the "jewelry resonance"

>Kawamori: "I don't want another love triangle"
>Bosses: "No, must have triangle in Macross!"
>Kawamori: *sigh* "okay, here's a pointy eared pilot girl" (just kidding, faggots, she won't get a sniff)

>>144356653
>>144356514
It's like they saw fans liked that Alto x Sheryl moment in the first Frontier movie and decided to extrapolate it to kingdom come.

The joke wears thins after a short while.

God I fucking love the second opening song so much. It's so fucking good.

>>144356394
Fuck, I don't want her to die...

It's already over form relationship standpoints.

Mirage's win condition is her living up to her own expectations from her heritage. That is her character growth arc.

Freyja x Hayate is the win condition for the both of them.

And Mikumo becoming some sort of space goddess, protoculture thing.

Arad and Kaname admitting their feelings, while still trying to respect the loss of Messer.

Makina and Reina continuing to les out.

And octopus girl liberating herself from the space slug.

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>>144356520
Kill windnuker's son by singing AXIA at him.

>>144356409
oh u

>>144356726
SQUEEZE ME

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>>144356793
>by singing AXIA at him.
oh boy

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>Shota Keith loved to drink apple juice
Well that was pretty random.

>>144353537
>Freyja phone home

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>>144353154
>Frontier

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>>144357017
I can't stop laughing at this scene.

>>144357017
Up until now i was convinced the only food they have is apples and water.
Now i know they also have other apple products.

>>144356726
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDJut50TzmQ

>>144357114
We need a Windermer Hank Hill.

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>>144357090

There you go.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKlQ7WDbs5s

>>144356773
>And octopus girl liberating herself from the space slug.

oh no, he's on to us! We must silence him. The truth of the protoculture must not be revealed!

So mirage's purpose in this series is to fulfill the boss's request of love triangle.

Kawamori be like
>add mirage as part of triangle as per requested
>let's not give her any development since its not my plan after all

Fans reaction be like
>why is this triangle so one sided?
>mirage is already so pity why force her into the triangle?
>she is supposedly a mAin character in the triangle yet she get the least focus as main character?

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>>144357114
Dude, they have chicken.

>>144356773
I'm sorry, but did Mirage already lose? Oh, that's right. The show isn't even over yet. In fact, it's only episode 16. Does not having the lead at episode 16 count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the Hayatebowl is still on? Mirage is still piloting right now and she has been the best girl in Delta for how many weeks now? She's facing one of the worst girls in Macross who just happens to have a lead because she's an idol. But you know what? She still fucking sucks. Mirage is one of the best fucking girls in anime, she and Hayate already stripped together and he's willing to confide in her. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Mirage wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Freyja just stepped into a red Chinese dress just like Minmay and Ranka did. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Mirage topics because you're a faggot hater who doesn't like her because she's good. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll this fucking show on the board, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

>>144357515
that's cringe right there

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How about those bikinis?

>>144357515
Likes x 1000

>>144357515
That's some salt. Chill anon. It's just an anime.

>>144357100
Ap'ju oishii yo

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>>144353285
Freyja is Hayate's Windermerian's half sister.
Screen cap this.
Shit's gonna be glorious.

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I really love the way he calling Freyja's name. Damn I love their interaction so much there're always have a great detail that pointing out their bonding such as he noticed that she's worrying about Chuck so he tried to cheer her up with spoon feed teasing. I love them so much. I want everyone to be happy. ;_;

>>144357761
What he said was true, shity ppl just ruin the experience.

Sure it's summer here

>>144357017
>Keith loves the sky and flying like Hayate
>Keith loves ap'ju like Freyja
This is foreshadowing, Hayate + Freyja + Keith vs the last boss. Mirage irrelevant.

>>144357841

Or a massive overreaction/copypasta...one of the two.

>>144357820
Everyone can never be happy when mirage is standing at the corner not smiling and laughing with everyone.

>>144357761
Hownew.ru

>>144357515
That's some My Immortal fanfic tier shit

Take me back to 2006 when terrible fanfics were the rage

>>144357889
>Implying Keith won't be the Brera to Freyja's Ranks>>144357889

>>144357841
Then he should leave the fucking thread.
None is obligated to follow the discussions here, so if someone feels negative about it, then they can close the tab. Simple as that.

No need for youtube comments.

>>144357925
I really hate when Hayate ignoring Mirage like that. He treat Freyja very well but he made Mirage feel bad and cried. I mean at least just listen to people's conversation even you're choosing gift for another person this fucking dense faggot.

>>144357889
yammeerroooooo

bty im a Mikumofag

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>The stars are aligning, an occasion once in 30 years
>I don't want to sleep, just sitting next to you, lost in admiration
>I can feel the wheels turning little by little
>A year, a day, a moment
Isn't this song about death?

>>144357707
Mikumo > Mirage >>>> Freyja

>>144358428
Yes it is, anon. Yes it is.

>>144357515

Denial is the first stage of grief.

>>144358428
This is a finale song if I ever saw one.

>>144357678
>>144357761
>>144357945
>>144358374
>>144358479
Come on, morons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmWOm1rNFHQ

>Roid has had to introduce foreign investors to his kingdom as a planet that sells apples and apple accessories
No wonder he and Keith decided to invade.

>>144358428
Here more lyrics from the sample of the song.
>>144011204

>>144358165
The comment made by Reina saying Hayate is dense is a sole proof of how dense he was. Remember? Mirage took the time and effort to actually select a purse for Hayate asking for his opinion while she haven't even bought herself a birthday gift yet. I mean it is obvious that mirage is trying hard and always shows concern towards hayate first. She even tries to phone Hayate whether he coming or not. Mirage is doing her very best for Hayate (this is not the first time thoug h) while frejya on the other hand gets the spotlight and gets all the blessings.

>>144358663
Showing an interest in someone gives no obligation for them to show interest back anon.

>>144358663
Also she phone to Hayate because she want Hayate to come to Freyja's birthday party. She's a good girl and don't deserve this. ;_;

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>>144358555
I stand by my Holy Crackers.

>>144358758
No, but it doesn't warrant being a dick.

Its not like she has done anything obnoxious.

>>144358618
Thanks, the part Freyja sang in this episode is depressing, but the part translated here is more bittersweet.

>>144353383
>>144353537
>>144354497
>>144355862


lewd as fuck

>>144358663
Just because you like someone and work hard for them it doesn't mean they're obligated to like you back.

Sometimes you win and sometimes you lose.

>>144358663
It's sad but this is what unrequired love is.
The other person is not obligated to like you back and admire your efforts at the end of the day. They have in mind someone else, who comes first for them and that's it.

If Mirage thinks about Hayate first, then he does the same for Freyja. There is your triangle.

>>144358934
He hasn't being a dick to her at all. It's just to him Freyja comes first right now and it has been like that for a while. You can call him dense and all, but this is how he is. He is not rude to Mirage, he never got aggresive towards her, no negativeness etc. but he also won't respond back to her the way she wants.

>>144359010
Yeah I really love the lyrics and the instrument is so good.
www.jvcmusic.co.jp/-/SampleStreamMeta/VTCL-35236/-/-/3/A.html

>>144358663
>>144358822
Been Mirage is suffering ;_;

>>144358165
Hayate is Amata-tier of obliviousness, not yet stupid but who knows in the future.

>>144356196
Am I the only one that thinks that Heinz and Roid have some ulterior motives? Like Roid knows its a bad idea to keep fighting, but all the young pilots will be blindly loyal and fight to their deaths and he's ultimately planning to destroy the solar system or something? Maybe so that he doesn't have to see his precious shota denka die early. They both seem like they're planning to bring everything down with them rather than establish an empire.

>>144358758
But prob is mirage shows her acts of love and kindness through her actions because she is not like any other girl like frejya who knows how to joke, associate with ppl and make lively conversations. Frejya express herself in a direct manner which is pretty subtle for hayate to understand her feelings. Furthermore, runes don't lie. Basically rune pikka pikka is like Frejya's ecstasy indicator.

There is a reason why he is proven dense based on Chuck and the other's observation. Now all that is left is someone pull off a Michael & Alto or Claudia & misa conversation. So that either hayate realizes or mirage daringly to contest her feelings

>>144359130
No one can be dumb as Amata and no one can lose hard as Zessica. The "Zessica! You still alive!?" summon so many butthurt.

>>144359098
>He hasn't being a dick to her at all. It's just to him Freyja comes first right now and it has been like that for a while. You can call him dense and all, but this is how he is. He is not rude to Mirage, he never got aggresive towards her, no negativeness etc. but he also won't respond back to her the way she wants.
He disappears mid conversation then shows up late.

He has been rude to Mirage several times.

>>144359280
Well, looks like Kawamori cant muster anything better than that after Frontier.

>>144357707
This is the first time I've seen Mirage and thought she was actually cute, thanks!

>>144359294
Ok, you have a point here but think of it the way that if Reina or Maki were with him, they wouldn't really cosider it rude but see it as him liking someone and want to pick a gift for them.

It's basically rude to Mirage because she has feelings for him and tries but Hayate is dense to notice them.

Also, it's not like he does it on purpose. Whenever it comes to Freyja he acts pretty spontaneously without considering many things.

>>144359431
Yeah that is by far Mirage's best picture.

>>144355373
Exhibitionism is my fetish

>>144359539
I bet Hayate would leave Mirage standing in the middle of the street if he got a message from Freyja saying she hurt her pinky finger and needs help.

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>>144359595
I thought this is her best picture?

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>>144357515

>>144356453
Yeah, I also need doujin of Freyja riding Hayate's dick and singing while Hayate's riding the VF.

Hayate is basically MUH FREYJA. Biggest Freyjafag out of all of us, I tell you. He's like the Maes Hughes of Delta in that regard.

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>>144359223
Nah, Roid has always been a huge protoculturefag. Now the ruins and the ship and their victories and all that stuff is getting to his head a bit too much and he's seriously thinking the windermerians are entitled to rule the galaxy.

Heinz just wanted his big brother to notice him.

>>144359539
No I was taking it as rude.

Others may take it better they all know he is compulsive, irresponsible and has poor manners.

Its really not just Freyja, though she has been his main concern, he has a spontaneous personality.

>>144359647
It's a good thing they don't drive in Delta.

>Mirage and Hayate driving around
>Hayate gets a phone call
>"Hayate, there's a space spider in my room"
>Hayate rolls out the car leaving Mirage in the passenger seat
>Nearly gets killed on car crash

RUNE PIKA

>>144359842
He's being a big Freyjafag after she songbuff him in episode 3. It's just like he think that being with her is fun or something. Thanks to this episode people stop saying that importance is not related to the romantic feeling.

Delta would've been a better triangle if Messer had taken Mirage's place.

>>144359852
I don't know, he wanted to quit before because Heinz was too exhausted and didn't want to facilitate his slow and painful death. Maybe he seems twisted and that it's getting to his head, but it seems he has ulterior motives and wants the plan to self destruct on purpose.

>>144359862
>Nearly gets killed on car crash
Risking the life to protect Freyja at all cost. SASUGA

>>144353537
You look kind of cool, Hayate!

>>144359859
I get it's sad that he does this, especially to Mirage but if someone doesn't point it out to him or Mirage confesses, I doubt he will notice.

And I doubt the writers will change his personality. This is how he is, which it can be both a good and a bad thing.

>>144360020
Literally any other triangle would've been better than the one we got
>Freyja/Hayate/Bogue
>Messer/Kaname/Arad
>Messer/Kaname/Keith

>>144359991
>Thanks to this episode people stop saying that importance is not related to the romantic feeling.

Oh man don't remind me. I was arguing about this with someone in the threads a couple of days ago. They kept saying that Freyja being important to Hayate was irrelevant when it came to romance and that it didn't give her an advantage. I was just like "are you for real?"

>>144359862
No, he'll turn that vehicle around with a sharp tire screech while screaming FREYJAAAAA!
With a pit stop to buy rubbing alcohol and bandaids. Gotta protect the precious hoina's pinky finger.

>>144360297
>Implying there's enough time to turn the car around.

He'd roll out, shimmy up a pipe and start running across rooftops while flying on the power of KAZE to get to Freyja.

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>>144357515

>>144360031
Maybe, didn't he mention something about the windies lifespan not being the problem or something?

>>144360098
That's why the writers need to pull off a Michael Alto or Claudia Misa conversation to make it happen.

I rmb characters from other macross have the idea that they have to somehow confess early or realize each other's feeling before entering war, because in war, u might not know whether you will still survive. We have to somehow have a resolution for the love triangle soon

>>144360382
The next day he greets Mirage like he didn't leave her sitting in a badly parked car in the middle of the street.
>About your car, Hayate...
>What car?
>...
>Oh, THAT car!

>>144353285
moist wind/10

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>Go for it, boy.

>>144359647
>>144359862
>>144360382
>>144360630
I want a doujinshi about Hayate being big Freyjafag so bad.

>>144360098
Wasn't really trying to comment on the romantic aspect.

Just a lack of manners, even though it was unintentional.

I get why its particularly bad for Mirage since she likes him, but he wasn't trying to snub her and its quite clear he is dense.

He also doesn't seem that interested in romance.

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>>144360714
I don't know if I'm being a delusional faggot but this scene is like older guy teasing about boy do something for his crush.

>>144360756
>I want a doujinshi about Hayate being big Freyjafag so bad

The anime's already got that covered

>>144360570
Well, fan reports of the event a few weeks ago hinted that this might happened in episode 22 so we have to wait and see.

>>144360859
Yeah, Hayate is not the nicest guy around when it comes to manners after all. He is a good guy and wants to learn and improve and I think he cares about others his own way.

>He also doesn't seem that interested in romance.
After the new episode, I can't be 100% about this. Of course only the ending will give a clear answer but the way he reacted towards Freyja, it's something you usually see in romance stories.

>>144360756
There is no need for a doujinshi when you are already watching it.

>>144360890
Nah you're not delusional. It really came off like that. With Arad going "snow huh. Not half bad" that smirk and Hayate's blush.

>>144360966
Yeah, but an exaggerated Freyjafagging doujin would be hilarious. Like driving to her place because her strawberry yoghurt has too many strawberries and no apples, then proceed to take all the strawberries and slice apple cubes for the gorigori's joy.
Even funnier if he's supposed to be dating Mirage or something in that doujin, but he drops everything to please the hoina's whims.

>>144353285
YOU CAN LITERALLY SEE HER GLOWING CLIT ON HER HEAD

>>144361110
>Runes don't lie

F, Miragefags

>>144361072
>Freyja missed her hometown apple
>Hayate folding to Windermere planet to bring the windnigga apple back for Freyja

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>stalker
>squats
Ah nu

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Why does she sleep like that?

>>144353154
>edition

>Babe come over
>I can't. Mirage is being chased and fired at by Shirokishi. Her siegfried is about to explode.
>Bogue just glared at me
>I'M ON MY WAY

>>144361424
She knows Hayate is a Freyjafag.

>>144360962
Can Mirage even compete?

>>144361424
>I will take every important thing from you, your pet, your crush, your screentime and everything you love.

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Why are space elves so lewd.

>>144361687
Punished Mirage: a girl denied of everything

>>144361687
>She even claimed Mirage's cat.
Someone stop this mad Hoina.

>>144361748
I don't think she has any thoughts of participating in the fun. It's like she was forced to?

>>144361879
Or maybe she know that they're planning to push her with Hayate.

>>144361748
>>144361879

That face conveys lewd

>>144361879
The place is too loud. Her feet hurt. She would rather be at the hangar practicing in the simulator.

>>144353263
Where was this from?

Remember Mirage stares at frejya before the battle of ragna? Why is there no progress between frejya and Mirage in terms of rivalry yet? It seems that frejya is not aware that mirage loves hayate? At least ranka, mao and minmay is smart enough to understand that they are in a love triangle.

P.S. it's basically a love triangle with frejya and hayate with both of them not knowing mirage is part of the triangle. God tier triangle

Enough Freyja/Mirage shipping wars, how bout that Arad/Kaname moment?

>>144362165
2nd movie
>>144362190
Maybe she's too dumb because she always being "I love song and apple!". She also said thanks to Mirage in episode 14, so it's just like she want to be friend with everyone and she have to think about her hometown so she's not have time to worrying about love rival.

>>144362190
Because is too one sided to have a rivalry

>P.S. it's basically a love triangle with frejya and hayate with both of them not knowing mirage is part of the triangle. God tier triangle
did you rike it?

>>144362190
Freyja is just not the observant type like Mirage, Ranka and Mao. Also, Mirage and Ranka are the kind of people who think about feelings in general, whether it's theirs or other people's, but do not voice them.

>>144362381
That scene playing with "HANASANAIDE" was very emotional. Maybe they could become a thing. RIP Arad

>>144362381
That moment screams ARAD IS DEAD.

>>144362562
Please no bullying Kaname. She has a shot at happiness now.

>>144362646
She has a shot as grim reaper.

>>144362547
Is it because ranka and mirage are both shy characters to begin with? That's is also the reason why they consider feelings greater than others.

>>144362646
Kaname is Mirage in her triangle.
Arad is Hayate. Messer was Freyja.

Kaname is here to give another advice to Mirage to give up the guy that isn't interested in you romantically.

>>144362775
...so Arad is a Messahfag?

>>144362720
They are both the shy and introverted type that keep their feelings to themselves and rumiate over them. Although, to be honest, Freyja also puts on a front when she's sad or worried over something.

>>144362847
Arad always was a Messerhfag.

>>144362847
You didn't know?

>>144362948
>>144363020
Poor Kaname...
Maybe if she gets a chicken crest hairdo?

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What is this expression trying to convey?

Defeat? Romantic Concession?

>>144362847
>He cried himself to sleep the day Messah died.
>Where Messer had the bracelet/music player, Arad has copies of Messer's training logs.

>>144363101
That she knew all along.

>>144362933
>Freyja also puts on a front when she's sad or worried over something.
Yeah, In episode 9 Freyja walking out and everyone are being "Oh what happen?" here this episode we have Mirage crying in the corner while others are enjoying themselves.

>>144363101
How would you react if your crush touch other's sexual organ in front of you?

>>144363101
noble confidant

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[awkwardness intensifies]

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>>144363234

>>144363234
>>144363293
Oh cute.

I've been hearing a lot of mirage being bullied this ep. I don't see it. It was beautiful. It was sad. It was painful. I cared a lot for her this episode. Bullying though? This thread is full of bullying. Not the actual show though.

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>>144363277

Violence/rape

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>>144363293
This is a blue board, fucking hell!

>>144363287
This fucking scene is very sweet and heart broken. Mirage try to cheer him up and suddenly Hayate's being "HOLYSHIT I'M GONNA MAKE A SNOW FOR HOINA BYE"

>>144358435
you just earned my respect

>>144363371
Hayate ignoring her conversation is pretty bullying for me.

>>144363507
Hayate us the greatest Freyjafag, whether he wants to sex her up or not.

>>144362933
Runes don't lie, Frejya's feelings are transparent in the sense that the rune is the indicator. So everyone knows if she is happy or anxious based on colour.

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>>144363287

>But it's a coincidence your dad is also a pilot
>Doesn't slide up next to him and look him in the eye
>Not dropping the ice cream and bend over to seduce Hayate

But Mirage will win in the end. Kawamori is a dick afterall

>>144363371
It is not the fags here in this thread that is bullying. It's the writers.

>>144363867
>typical seduction methods
Mirage's too pure for that.

>>144363956
That's not what I see.

>>144363867
I wish they would have given Mirage a love interest of her own or something. At least Ranka had Brera, and it became popular (and they milked it). It's cute to see awkward characters like her dealing with romance.

>>144363568
It's not like he does it intentionally. It's just that he's too much of a Freyjafag to think of anything else. Hayate and Freyja march to the beat of their own drum and are pretty spontaneous.

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>>144363655
Yeah, just watch the way he look at her. He's look so happy here.

I just wanted to say I fucking hated Freyja at first. I love her now though. She has developed into a real star. Of course, she is still nothing compared to Mikumo, but you can't beat perfection.

Come on everyone! There is 10 more episodes left! There is still hope for Mirage!

>>144363234
>>144363293
Oh my, these ones are from a fujo artist who draws Haikyuu fanart (kagehina). See? Fujos ship het in Macross.

>>144364052
What do you think Bogue will be for?

Holy hell, I just noticed something. It's not that Hayate touched her rune. He was going to stop before touching it, but the rune itself moves towards his hand, and that's why they touched. LEWED LEVES INCREASING!!!

>>144364231
Stop right there faggot.

>>144364209
indeed, they are.

>>144364231
Stock footage.

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>>144353537
>>144353599

>I am cum.

>>144364253
The wind suddenly blow so he accidentally touched it.

>>144364231
I know you are trolling. But out of the Knights I think Keith with his original and playful personality from when he was a kid that showed around Messer would have been a good option. But that's clearly not happening at this stage, plus, Mirage would have to git gud for him to notice her.

Sorry for the shippingfaggotry and delusions. I'm going to stop here.

I feel that the that twins and bogue have more purpose in the story compare to mirage despite having lesser screen time compare to mirage. Poor mirage being side lined.

>>144364332
>accidentally
who are you trying to kid here?

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>>144353285
>>144353154

Who's delusional now faggot?

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>>144364209
They do.

>>144364400
Mercat-sensei had more screen presence than Mirage.
Shinigami Valk has more screen presence than Mirage.

>>144364424
>accidentally
It is. Go wear a specs and check it out for yourself

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>>144354762

Nothing has to be equal.

>>144364424
I'm serious anon the rune move because the wind bowling. But yeah, It's just like some shoujomanga's scene where MC trying to tease his love interest and expected that the girl will avoid it and insult him as usual but she like it so she let MC tease her.

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>>144361748
Not just space elves.

>>144363101
She wants Hayate happiness. Mirage doesn't she;s in love yet but she's on the right path.

Can we take a moment to appreciate the fact that the snow idea was actually pretty goddamned ingenious, and that if any of us were in Freya's shoes we'd want to take him right there and then?

>>144354361

I heard the clit tap sound, he touched her naughty bits.

>>144364145
Ignorance is not the same as innocence.

Is Chuck sister confirmed kill?

>>144364819
I love how Hayate remembers her gushing about the snow in Windermere from a waaay earlier episode - 4 or 5 I think? This and the line he stole from her in ep 14 shows he really takes her words to heart.

>>144364634
Only a good told story.

>>144364819
It was. I wish Hayate was my boyfriend, no homo.
>No one will ever think about your wants and needs like Hayate does for Hoina

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>>144364634
Frejya and hayate not knowing mirage is part triangle proves that there is no triangle to begin with. So HayaFrey all the way.

>>144365178
>I wish Hayate was my boyfriend, no homo.
Hayate is literally the most winnable macross MC ever. Forget the triangle, somethimes I want to keep him for myself.

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Did not realise they had the same VA.

Damn.

ハヤフレ推しで、ミラージュは俺がいただく。以上。

>>144357386

They lay apples.

>>144365310
Well they both spend at least 50% of their screentime naked...

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>>144365186
Post the full one, fag.

>>144364332
No, it definitely moved.

>>144365186
>tumblr
Fuck off

>>144357515
>Miragefags are this autistic.

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The hesitation in this scene pretty much confirms we'll get a Mirage ending, which sucks.

>>144365488
Was it PTSD ?

Looks like he remembered something for a sec

>>144364819
It's have a great detail and well written about their relationship. He could buy some cute merch at the mall as a present but he didn't pick anything up just like he thought that it's not the thing that she like. He also remember about her worrying and missed windermere planet so he made a snow for her. Hayate's fucking perfect top tier boyfriend if you're Freyja.

>>144357707

I remember this just being Mikumo and Frejya, did someone shop in Mirage?

>>144365542
Now Freyja needs to do something as thoughtful and it's game, set, match.

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The birthday planning and shopping scenes with Chuck, Makina, Rei rei and the rest of the crew were funny but holy shit that snow scene.
I didnt ask for these feels.

>even the jellyfish is patting her

>>144365488
I still have a hope because the ED is about Hayate chasing Freyja and he can catch up with her.

>>144365488
Really, whether Hayate can 'reach' Freyja or not will determine who wins the bowl.

SO far he's failed three times now - ep13, ep14 and ep16. But she's managed to reach him in ep 13 with her song.

If he CAN reach out to her either at or by endgame, then it'll be a Freyja end.

If the theme of not reaching her continues past this ep, especially now that the triangle is heating up on all sides, it'll be a Mirage end.

Going by the new ED, whether Hayate can complete his journey to Freyja or not will define the rest of the series.

>>144358428

Don't worry.

She dies next episode

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Wait who is this character?

>>144365488
I think he was questioning his feelings there.

>>144365649
A cute loser