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http://bitlasers.com/djt
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>>139193162
>>139220268
出来ない
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
As long as you never give up and you keep pushing to better yourself, you'll make it no matter what. You CAN learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Our highly qualified teachers not only work hard, but they care about each and every student that enters their classroom. I thank you, DJT teachers, for your sense of duty and compassion to our precious future generation.
まずは調子はどうだい
お前はまだ日本語分かってないですかい
ok ill say it in english. whats up dude
何年くらいここに居座ったんですかね
フラッシュカード勉強はどうだ？ 何か出来ますか？
いや答えるな
もう決まってるから
djtの勉強方法（皮肉と言えるだろ）なんて不完全なんだよ
証拠は？ このカキコ見ろ
結局何が分かるんですか？
何か勉強になりましたか？
多分無いね
そのなんでも無い生活に生きてる限り
今日も助けは来ない
ankiの書き込みに戻れ
そして踊れ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xEihW4oxuM
ぺにす
>>139220352
this spam is far too long
can't you just post like a paragraph or so like the other spammers
it takes up too much space
>>139220268
>http://bitlasers.com/djt
Use the direct URL next time.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
>>139220418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf5GlbRkRys
>>139220418
Not this shit again.
>>139220520
Fuck off spammer and use the direct URL like the /int/ thread does.
>>139220407
its a dire urgent message that must be delivered in its entirety
>>139220520
>most important is why this child has auti-
My besides
Alright, I’ll try posting this again. I've made backups of the LNs and textbooks from the CoR, and I think it would be helpful to try to distribute them. There's ~140gb of LNs, and ~60gb of learning materials.
I believe I've fixed the LN torrent. I’ve also edited the learning materials torrent to run better. You’ll need to turn on DHT to download.
>https://mega.nz/#F!m8gknCab!0eFs_LKBU522THz6sJbXlQ
Let me know if there are any problems and I can try to fix them.
>>139220418
Calm your autism. There's plenty merit to it and the guy doesn't get anything out of it.
>>139220608
until someone buys a fucken laser
>>139220608
Fuck off mate.
咬む
Rare kanji for your rare kanji babes
(p.s. don't add this, it was in the chuuni martial arts phrase "蛟咬の型" i.e. "dragon's bite form")
>>139220605
I guess I should have quoted the OP for more visibility >>139220268
>>139220666
It hasn't been an issue for the several months it has been the url in the OP, there's no reason for it to suddenly become an issue now. You're just fucking nitpicking because you need something to kick and scream over otherwise you won't be satisfied. Even if the URL is a direct link you'll just find something else to whine about. YOU fuck off.
>>139220674
i was able to read it meaning i've probably come across it before so why not add it if you want to?
>>139220674
my 嚙む is more rare and its older than my dad
>>139220733
>muh appeal to age
Just fuck off and post the correct url if you are going to make a thread, spammer.
>>139220605
>decentralized network enabled
>0 peers
You fucked up again.
>>139220783
I found that in だがしかし
>>139220834
did she bite a dudes dick or someth
>>139220818
>spammer
What? I'm not him if that's what you're implying, I'm just not autistic enough to be so triggered over a convenient and more compatible url that I'm gonna throw a shit fit about it until I get my way. It's never been an issue, he doesn't get any ad/referral/redirect money out of it like you were originally whining about, and it's still not an issue now. It's only an issue because you're making it an issue. I have no intention of using the google docs link and I'm not responding anymore, have fun with your hissy fit.
>>139220831
Should be working now, do you mind trying again?
>>139220771
>so why not add it if you want to?
Because wasting effort on ultra-rare kanji isn't worth it, practically speaking. Strategist, man.
>read Tae Kim
>can hardly remember anything
Anki deck it is.
>>139221084
This is the last time I put up with your shit I swear to god.
>>139221164
Rude.
>>139221230
I only tried the LNs and it seems O.K.
It just stopped downloading though.
>>139220320
kek
>>139221151
how the fuck do you expect to learn grammar from anki
>>139221299
These laughs, also the ones when you read shemales's tattoos make learning this shit worth it.
>>139221299
>>139221391
that pic is messed up desu
>>139221376
just stare at the flashcards and then you understand everything and you can post your anki stat sheet or whatever to prove your literacy
>>139220771
You could read 蛟咬? It doesn't even show up in google.
>>139221632
i was referring to 咬む
>>139221391
You mean the 馬鹿外人 one or something else? I don't remember any shemale.
>>139221632
i mean its not like 蛟 is something you never see
unless you dont play video games
>>139221376
Not like there aren't plenty of good grammar decks with explanations (not to mention the DoJG). Tae Kim has a tendency to ramble.
>>139220995
Only the website owner would be that offended to have his unrelated platform taken away from viewing eyes. Go be a jew somewhere else.
おはようおにいちゃん
きょうはりにんしきだよ
>>139221806
Eva Lin has a 女人禁制 tattoo.
>>139221888
Or he's tired of all the autists (or autist) ruining the thread by complaining about extremely inane shut like a url shortener.
It'd be nice to have a DJT thread where someone isn't accused of being autistic :)
>>139222067
おはよう
>>139222716
Where do you think you are?
>>139222067
おはよう、
いとしいのいもうと。
ところで、りにんしきにはなにおこる？
>>139222067
>12:44 JST
>おはよう
>>139222716
get a load of this autist
自閉症を解き放て
>>139222067
「きょう 【はり にんしき】 だよ」か？
>>139222900
きょう・は・りにんしき
>>139222990
にんしんしき?
>離任式
小学校の先生が任を離れる式
日本では学校行事では
終業式ー卒業式ー離任式の順で
三月末にまとめて行うことがほとんど
９月卒業というのはほとんどない
>>139222716
Autism isn't even an offense in /a/ anymore to be honest, everyone has been desensitized to most offenses except things like >reddit and
>tumblr
>>139222780
>>139222990
I guess this is why imouto is saying おはよう when it's 13:44 JST.
>>139222990
きょうはにんしんだよ
>>139222716
Maybe when king autism discovers the filter feature and leaves DJT behind to do something remotely productive with his time.
>>139223126
そしてあしたはにんしんちゅうぜつだね
>>139222067
You should put a tripcode on when answering language-related questions so that your useful educational posts are easier to find.
>>139222990
【りにんしき】は なにだよ
>>139223076
なるほどね
あるがとう
>>139223076
学校に行くことなんて一度もないわ
>>139220268
today while watching ibo i recognized almost all of the simple conversations with ease
it might not be much but i am improving
wish me luck DJT....slow insteady wins the racepocket turtles
>>139223382
what the fuck is that blue shit
>>139223409
pure evil
Is it worth trying to practice each sound or word separately for speaking? Or should I just go and talk to someone?
>>139223601
Japanese is one of the languages where individual sound practice helps. Just make sure you're practicing the sounds correctly.
>>139223601
do you know how like people pick up regional accents when they move to and live in a certain place for a while? getting your spoken japanese right is pretty imperative on being around other japanese speakers
luckily you can talk to people online so thats a good thing to do
>>139223409
that would be a smurf my friend
Looking through the CoR manga, I noticed that CoR-kun even renamed the files inside the archives to have consistent filenames. This is some hardcore autism.
>>139224000
It's not that hard do that with a script, it's not like he went through and did it by hand.
Didn't some guy said he found namasensei's videos in the CoR yesterday? Are they really there?
>>139224000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGZoiXUb5t8
>>139224205
you can find them anywher
>>139221812
I dunno I've never seen it and I've played a reasonable amount of rpg-ish eroge (but no console rpgs or anything). Keep in mind though that although it's easy to think stuff is really rare just because you haven't seen it, it's also somewhat easy to think something is common when it actually isn't because of limited experience, like maybe you've played a lot of games by one company and it appears in all those games, and therefore you think it's pretty common.
I won't claim to know which it is though.
出来ない
>>139224281
Fuck off.
>>139224305いいえ
>>139224334
自分を日本しろ
>>139224245
yeah i was referring to console games and mmos
you see that dude all the time in stuff that has any kind of mythology backdrop
>>139224205
They're here
https://mega.nz/#!GlRjEShL!zeuPsuEtOLycwU_MPbMlcDgRYJ0TpxXo1v8esm2bzjs
烏龍
麻雀
>>139223382
im confused i thought jamal was fluent
日本と中国の違い
中国人は牛乳を飲まない
日本人は牛乳を飲む
>>139225148
詰まり、日本人はhomoですか
What's the difference?
>>139225148
中国人だけど今牛乳飲んで中
>>139225452
one goes on your lips the other one goes on your 口
>>139225594
What do you think about that one angry guy thinking that you're imouto?
What are some good anime coming up next season? I wanna read the mangas for them
>>139225693
I think he's a pretty cool guy desu.
>>139225718
ばくおん is kind of like top gear sometimes except it's moe highschool girls and motorcycles instead of middle aged men and cars.
>>139225718
僕のヒーローアカデミア should be airing in a week
>>139225718
JoJo
Read a fucking hard game and recorded every word i bothered to look up. Enjoy
http://pastebin.com/SJjjWFNK
>>139226507
>no bully
>無学
でも簡単すぎなんだよ
>>139226640
I even thought that when I added it. I only even looked it up because I was lead to believe it meant something other than what it did, and institutionally hit "r" and then ti was too late.
Just curious, what's wrong with the old DJT guide? I wasn't here when discussion happens.
>>139226718
IIRC
- Didn't emphasize the importance of reading enough
- Too much superfluous details (history lessons in the kana descriptions for example)
>>139226507
What game was it?
>>139226780
It was hard in the sense that the vocabulary level was unrelentingly high throughout the entire game, a single screenshot doesn't really do it justice. Though I imagine someone more used to read this kind of game would have no trouble.
>>139226962
>This is an Equilibrium fanfic by Urobuchi Gen, the author of Saya no Uta.
Ha. Sounds interesting.
>>139227110
It certainly was. I'd even go so far to recommend watching the movie specifically to read Jouka. They go fantastic together.
Jouka also has a fantastic translation so if you're really low level you can reference it when you struggle with what a sentence means.
>>139226962
Is it just me or are like half the posters in the /jp/ thread also here?
>>139227271
That might just be me. I'm the only one dumb enough not to leave DJT after years of studying.
>>139227178
I'll have to find a torrent for the film then. Thanks for mentioning it, it looks great.
>>139227271
its just you
>>139227311
No, look closer. There's the Maitetsu poster, the Flyable Heart poster, you, and me, and those are just the ones who are obvious enough that it's clear they're the same person.
A couple threads ago someone posted a screenshot from a site where natives posted how long a VN took them to complete; does anyone have the link to it? I didn't save it.
>mfw need 40k words to be at the level of a high school student
>>139227462
cant you just like check the archive or whatever
>>139227481
I wasn't really sure what to search since I don't remember exactly what they posted, sorry.
>>139227462
EroGameScape probably. Unfortunately for me, the site has never loaded on my computer. I have to go to Google and search for name-of-game + Erogamescape and look at the cached page.
I wish VNDB would just steal the number from EGS instead of the really vague 10-30, 30-50, etc.
>>139226718
Nothing.
This newer guy just wants to imprint his ego on something someone else did a while ago. It pretty much sums up current DJT, really: general started up by someone ages ago with a small community driven guide then it gets taken over later by some anon who wants to introduce opinionated changes in order to make it "his". Then you have the new manifestation of the thread being a website for all of the smaller guide and resources pages, originally set up out of pocket by some anon who went out of his way to make sure that anyone could host it all as easily as possible.
Since the original thread/guide anon left, the thread slowly went from having a rather free open ended form to a highly regimented thing with a set image and memes at the start of every thread, people freaking out if anything changes at all.
Then you have the newer resource/site maker anon who left and those who took it over let everything stop, got pissy at suggestions, being so lazy that they allowed a huge chunk of the resources to be left in the whim of a single anon. To top it all off the newer anons who have made this thread their little safe space are defending avatarshitposters and defending the current host anon when he desperately tries to create a boogeyman over the recent cricitsm of anons who rather have djt a product of /a/ and not something hidden beyond a commerical website as though it is necessary.
The whole thing is a mess at the moment because the creators left and left everything in the hands of egotistical manchildren who want to control something they arbitrarily inherited at the cost of the community for which is was designed to be openly used and freely distributed. The guide and site went from 'here is something feel free to use and these are all the changes that were made and here is how you can recreate your own version without the changes you don't like' to 'fuck you, accept this and don't ever complain'.
>>139227784
That's the one. Thank you.
>I wish VNDB would just steal the number from EGS instead of the really vague 10-30, 30-50, etc.
Indeed, I was trying to see how long Fate/Stay Night is and they only list it as 50+ hours, which could mean just about anything.
So, I finally took a decision and deleted every single game I had, and am not downloading any for a while. I am going to start grinding Heisig once again (did it for a couple of days, got to some 150 kanji and stopped) and, after that, Genki for grammar. I have two friends who are having free classes with a Japanese native, but since I can't afford daily transportation I have to self-study, but at least I have people to talk about it. I do intend on posting my progress here at least weekly, if not daily. ETA for RtK 1 should be July/August. Wish me luck anons, I don't want to relapse into lethargy and depression anymore. This time I will prevail.
>>139227921
Seems like a twisted way of viewing it.
Aren't you the one trying to force the thread to conform to your own view of what it should be?
>>139227992
Good luck, anon.
Did you drop it last time out of boredom? I wonder if you wouldn't find it more interesting if you learned vocabulary first so you could get into reading sooner. Doing RTK by itself can be a bit of a grind without a reward for a while.
まあ、私の言いたい事はですね。つまり、なんて言うんですかね、んー、そのまああれなんですよ。ほら、あれだよあれ。えーっとね、だからさっきまではっきりと覚えているのだけど、ちょっと思い出しているだけで時間はかかるけど、あれのことなんだけど、それが思い出せばはっきりといえるのだけどね。 う～ん、もうすぐ思い出せそうなんだけど・・・ああ、最近めっきり記憶力が悪くなってね。記憶力って言っても短期記憶力ってやつね。昔のことは結構覚えてるんだ。 おっと、脱線したね。本題を忘れるところだったよ。ええっと、なんだっけな？ えっと、あれだよあれ。なんだっけな・・・あ、でも今分かったよ。あれだ。 そうだよあれだ。 でもねー。んーと、あれ？なんだっけ。ほらアレだってのに。 ってあれって何だっけ？ テレビのあれだっけ。 っていうかテレビってどういう構造してるんだろう。
>>139227992
>So, I finally took a decision and deleted every single game I had
Make sure you have some way to unwind at least, otherwise you'll just end up quitting even faster once your initial determination wears off.
>>139228031
くそっ
まっすぐにいえ！
>>139227992
The secret to success is to do something every day. Make that your goal. Skipping a day is the first step toward quitting.
>>139228087
Even astrophysicists and presidents take days off, it's just a matter of not going overboard with it.
>>139228141
Do they, though? Maybe they take a break from an intensive workload, but it's still on their minds and all around them.
>触らぬ神に祟り無し
From context, they're saying everyone here has lost someone/something important to them, so they understand their pain, but gramatically wouldn't this mean all the people present are *lost* persons themselves? How does that work? They're not dead ghosts or anything.
>kanji first instead of vocab
>>139228190
CONTEXT
>>139228190
I want to say it's just 皆（何かを）失っている人 with the 何かを omitted.
>>139228190
I believe it's more like "people who have lost (something)."
>>139228021
>>139228040
>>139228087
Last time I was isolated in a place with no Internet, or any kind of technology for that matter, with an INSANELY boring 10 hour job, but I had enough time to study at least. When I came back to the big city, internet+tablet+laptop meant I abandoned Japanese for the fast rewards brought by gaming. Isolating myself as much as humanly possible from the Internet should be the best way to try and replicate those conditions once again. Finding a job and start working out again are my 2 other priorities. I will just occupy myself with things that actually allow me to express other sides of my personality. Gaming and academic pursuits means that I am a pretty rational, analytical, logical person (thus I can just grind RtK and convince myself that I'm going for the long game), but I've always neglected my social, emotional and physical sides. It is time I start diversifying my bonds, later restart my Uni, live a holistic lifestyle and embrace things I love but never took the time to do, like learning new languages.
Sorry for the long rant, I am not a concise person.
>>139228227
Why? I do not really care about spending the first 3 to 6 months forever removing what would usually be a burden for most people. Any other reason besides that, anon?
>Skipped my reps for a week
>>139228190
Pretty sure it can't be interpreted that way because 失う is transitive. Interpreting it as people being in a state of 失う is impossible.
>>139227430
I'm here too, your friendly neighbourhood russian.
>>139228273
Yeah I was guessing probably this. Fucking hate how they cut shit out.
>>139228250
>Implying you need any more than was given.
>>139228190
If you wanted it to be "lost people", it would be 失われた人たち and it would raise the question of who lost them.
>>139228164
Of course they do, obviously a president needs to be a in a position where they can be contacted at any given time should something critical arise, but you can bet your ass they won't be thinking of politics when they have a rare chance to instead spend a day with their family or something similar.
Giving yourself a break every now and then is good, abusing it for the sake of laziness is a different matter.
>>139228467
I don't think either of us can claim to know what the mind of a president is like on a day to day basis so let's just end this discussion here.
>>139228393
Can I get some sushi please?
>>139228724
I'm not black, 家族.I'm asian.
>>139228747
キム・テイですか
ザ・グレート・スシ・ニホン
Is it even possible to become proficient in Japanese?
>>139229020
The french hag here speaks 100% authentic japanese. Literally indistinguishable from a nip obasan.
So yeah.
>go to type in a search box/form
>nothings happening
>mfw heaps of rikai messages pop up
>was hovered over a word
>heaps of rikai settings changed
>it's not working anymore
Every fucking time
If you can't read this then you can't learn Japanese
「SSAいく」とは何？
>>139229131
Sourou
Sakiboso
Anonymous
>>139229130
But I can read that, yet I can't read Japanese. What now.
>>139229131
グーグルはあんたの友達ですわ。
>>139228499
I was the president of my high school anime club so I think I understand what it is like to be in those shoes.
What is the recommended amount of time to masturbate to cute anime girls for learning Japanese?
>>139229875
>not multitasking yet
give up now
So I'm a rather new beginner to Japanese, and I am currently a little confused about where to go next. I began my Japanese study by learning the basics of all of the kana, and then I went went to study kanji in RTK, in which I am about 600 kanji through. I know what I need to do next, but I don't know exactly how to do it.
What I want to tackle after RTK is pronunciation, vocab, and grammar. Grammar, at the very least, should be simplest; I'm planning to go through Tae Kim's guide and pick up the rest through reading of actual text. However, I'm more concerned about vocab and pronunciation, as I've heard mixed advice. Some say to learn pronunciation of kanji, and some say to learn only the pronunciation of vocab and that will teach me all I need to know.
So what should I do, and which resources should I use? I was planning on using memrise or a really helpful iOS app (simply called "Japanese") for vocabulary. Also which should I do first: vocab and pronunciation, or grammar? Or should I do both at the same time?
Edit: I apologise for the stupid comments that have been put in this thread. They are members of an ace attorney discord I moderate, and a common joke is that I am learning Japanese to play the unlocalised Dai Gyakuten Saiban. They are out of line, and please disregard them.
>>139230003
Go away spamkun.
>>139229130
Hachiman pls leave.
Long sentence of English is hard.
>>139230225
Long sentence of Japanese is hard too.
>>139230273
Long sentence of new language is hard too.
>>139230328
Long sentence of any language is hard too.
>>139230354
Long sentence of fluent language not hard.
>>139229218
ニヤッとした
>>139226962
Is it a sequel or just set in the same world around the same time as the events of the film?
>>139230225
>>139230273
>>139230328
>>139230354
>>139230577
All of these posts were from the same person.
Report obvious spam and for other posts, make sure to do a search for the text before responding. Spammer is making minor alterations in the text so be on the lookout for that. If it turns out to be copy/pasted questions, just report and ignore.
>>139230725
Easy on the paranoia.
>>139230725
Sure they were.
>>139230725
memes haha
オハヨウゴザイマス
腹を抱えて笑う麻
Is it customary to say "shitsureishimasu" when entering a shop?
>>139231311
kanker
Hey I'm almost done with core 2k and I was thinking of reading some stuff.
Is Katawa Shoujo in moon a good place to start? Since I already know the story and all, is the eng to nip translation ok?
>inb4 KS
>>139227994
It's hilarious, but also a little sad, how much that guy is projecting. He is triggered because his safe space didn't coddle him and his ugly OP image.
>>139231669
Anyone got a download link for Remembering the Kanji?
>>139231348
Only if it's some tiny granny shop and the owner is nowhere to be seen.
>>139231669
Like, what's the point of reading an OELVN translated to Japanese? Reading VNs in Japanese is great because you are able to enjoy them the way the authors intended, or if they aren't translated at all.
IMO.
>he's harassing feedback guy about the bitlasers link now
I learned 2k words and I still can't read japanese.
>>139232295
You need around 10k words for fluency.
You need more than that in order to read fiction without ever stopping or guessing.
Basically, you've still got a very long road ahead of you.
>>139232295
That's strange. You should be able to read pretty much any manga by now. Obviously except the ones with kanji play.
>>139232295
Did you study the grammar or did you fall for the vocab meme?
>>139227992
>>139228314
This is a pretty ironic post for me, because I just got off a 1 year study binge of doing nothing but study Japanese. I've been spending a lot of time trying to get back into video games and other such recreational activities that I abandoned all that time ago.
>>139232411
I can read most manga relatively quickly. It's visual novels and light novels that make me stop every few words.
So, I learned 1400 kanji. Is this enough and I can start grammaring now? I heard that this amount of kanji will be enough for the first year of reading, is that true?
>>139232457
If that statement is true, either your sample size is far too small or you're ignoring a fuckton of the dialogue and missing a lot. 2k is not enough for most manga.
>>139232508
You should have started grammar right from the first kanji or even before.
There is no set amount of kanji that will be enough for x years of reading. You will always encounter some kanji you don't know, it's just a matter or how rarely. Your biggest problem is how many actual words you know, not kanji.
>>139232514
It's enough for manga I read. Your manga doesn't look good.
>>139232553
>It's enough for manga I read
So, sample size too small. Next time say "I can read dumb moeshit/porn relatively quickly".
>>139232534
I know 1400 kanji so I guess about 1400 words. And I know the common words like arigatou etc, but I actually don't know the kanji for arigatou, gozaimasu and stuff like that. But isn't it better to study the kanji before starting the complex grammar?
>>139232593
>I only read comics for grown adults such as myself
>>139232597
>But isn't it better to study the kanji before starting the complex grammar?
IMO absolutely not. It's best to do everything in parallel, that way you can connect the dots much easier and get a balanced knowledge and skill of the language.
I don't know how long you spend learning all those kanji, but if you barely know any grammar or actual words, you still can't speak or read at all. So did it feel like a good use of your time?
>>139232641
Not even grown adults. Read pretty much anything outside of that braindead bubble, even moe-yuri stuff like Stella no Mahou, and you'll be blown the fuck out. 2,000 isn't enough for anything except stuff so simple you can look at the pictures and understand everything going on.
>>139232514
>Artificial Genes Human Regenerated for Mental Support
What does this even mean
>精通
>1. acquaintance; having knowledge; being expert; being versed in; conversant
>2. first ejaculation
>>139232681
I've been studying for about 6-7 months now. But it's not a European language so I think I shouldn't be able to read or talk for at least 2 years.
There's a lot of kanji and vocabulary to learn, I'm not even talking about the complex grammar. Do you really think it can be handled simultaneously?
>>139232708
It's a sci-fi manga where a guy is about to die due to disease so he's given a Lover, a artificial human generated from the genes of a dead individual with modified intelligence to fall in love with him. It's a pretty interesting medium through which to express the transience, and perhaps shallowness, of love. It's a pretty grim manga.
>>139232781
Dude are you serious? Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5IPArDxO40
>>139232781
Of course it can be handled simultaneously, that's how everyone else it doing it. I've never heard of anyone trying to study thousands of kanji before doing the basics other than you.
>>139232831
forum.koohii.com
>>139232811
Did I do something terribly wrong? :(
I'll watch it now and report back, thanks.
>>139232831
But I start feeling uneasy when I look at a native Japanese text, it's just to hard for me... Some stuff written for beginners is fine, but the stuff with no furigana/roumaji is just too much for me at this point.
>>139232869
>Did I do something terribly wrong
Yeah, sorry. The fundamental act of language learning is reading. It is by far the most important (along with listening) thing to do to learn a language. You are suggesting waiting two whole years to start! Well, thats how I interpreted it anyway. That's a terribly wrong philosophy that'll hurt you a lot since its' the opposite of true.
It is through the struggle of conquering native Japanese text that one improves. Smile in joy every time Japanese intimidates you, for every drop of sweat you shed tackling it down is a leap forward towards fluency. Seek challenge and devour it.
>>139232784
Sounds interesting. What's the name of the manga?
>>139232922
愛人［AI-REN］
おふろはいらずにねるとこだった
おふろまいにちはいろうね
>>139232864
Can you write the whole 2000 Kanji from memory? visualize them? Most people just know how to read .
>>139232811
Thanks for the video, but does that really work for everyone? Seems like he is some kind of a genius if he can read grammar in 1-3 months already. Czech a lot easier than Japanese.
And how do I import some mangas into the link of whatever he said? Seems like a great thing.
>>139232912
Thanks for the motivational speech, I think there's some truth to it.
ワタシは日本人です何か質問ありますか？
>>139233068
>but does that really work for everyone?
Absolutely.
>Seems like he is some kind of a genius if he can read grammar in 1-3 months already.
To quote him
>Do I understand all of it? No.
He's not reading like you or me read English. He's reading to learn, and he does learn.
>>139233236
二次元の嫁は誰ですか？
>>139232704
I haven't come across anything with much difficulty. I mean I've pretty much only read shounen shit like spirit circle and mahou tsukai no yome and I'm fine with reading only those. I'd rather start reading VNs or something I want to read rather than trying to read something I might not like.
>>139232781
yeah. it's more work for a while, but it makes it easier when you do it simultaneously. think about learning a new word in your native language. it's a lot easier to do because you know about *how* you can use that word, which is because of your knowledge of grammar. because you know how it's useful to you, your brain finds it more pertinent to memorize, as you are thinking of possible ways to use this word.
instead of learning kanji and vocab in a sort of vacuum, learning grammar at the same time allows you to think of those words within a meaningful context. and this sort of thing gains momentum because grammar is a broader and more fundamental part of the language on which the finer-grained feature of words and kanji sit.
>>139233357
If you call Spirit Circle shit one more time I will fight you I swear to god.
But really, like I said, either your sample size is too small (only read a couple manga) or you're ignoring a lot. 2,000 is simply not enough words. It could also be that you know a lot more than 2,000 words but are underestimating yourself.
>>139233357
>>139233418
I meant "call it shounen shit" one more time. Spirit Circle is a manga by the legendary Mizukami, and not only is it seinen it's also very well written and high quality. The opposite of shounen shit.
>>139233357
>neither of those are shounen
sasuga retards
>200 word essay due in two weeks
>don't even know 10 words
Help!
>>139233322
中原岬です
>>139233639
きもっ
At what point is it possible to play games on consoles where I can't texthook? Is one month enough?
>>139233747
I played Demon Souls on my ps3 after 1.8 years and it was pretty smooth going.
>>139233770
read all the item descriptions i'm sure? besides that there isn't a ton of language in souls, especially because the voices are english.
>>139233890
The item descriptions weren't tough at all. The voices were in English but I read the dialogue subtitles, pretty much every line of dialogue was different in the Japanese text than it was in the spoken English, so it was still worthwhile to do. The hardest part by FAR were the archstone worldbuilding descriptions, in describing the outlandish locations the vocabulary level increased dramatically. Also, if I hadn't read Hatsumira beforehand I would have been absolutely thrashed by a lot of the 言い方, though luckily I did so I wasn't.
>>139233890
Do you read item descriptions in English games too?
>>139233958
You should for souls game, they have really interesting stuff contained within and are very worthwhile. It's not like a lot of rpgs where it's just "a wooden sword"
>>139233770
So one month is not enough?
>>139234073
Well, it depends. You can learn 3k words and grammar in that time if you're an Adderall freak.
>>139234073
1.5 months+3 days and 2 hours will be enough.
>>139232453
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE gaming (mostly analyst work rather than playing but still), but so much focus on it and college has completely gimped my life to the point I dropped Uni twice because of a lack of interest, which has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a mental block. Diverting my attention to other tasks and taking a slower pace was the recommendation and I hope Japanese helps me get out of this hellhole.
How is your Japanese now, after a year? How did you go about your studies, learning everything at once or isolating different parts and tackling them one by one? Are you currently able to read/watch the content you first wanted to? My main goal is to start reading VNs after a year, year and a half of deliberate studying.
>>139233958
in souls games, yeah. they're 10% descriptions of the item 90% lore and story. it's like the central way information about the world is very explicitly told in the games.
>>139233957
>pretty much every line of dialogue was different in the Japanese text than it was in the spoken English
>The hardest part by FAR were the archstone worldbuilding descriptions, in describing the outlandish locations the vocabulary level increased dramatically
really interesting to know. definitely will replay that in japanese once i have the sufficient knowledge
>>139234202
All I did for the entire year was read VNs and do anki. I did a year of binge studying, but I had gone through Tae Kim and Core2k in the months before that, which means indeed I learned everything at once, there's no real need to put of grammar and you should start vocabulary/kanji the moment you finish kana so it's only natural to end up doing everything at once. Now I can read nukige/moege with 0 problems and keep up with anime fairly well, though I still need to practice. So in that sense I accomplished my goal, and its why I'm trying to ease back into video games.
I asked the other day if someone had a pdf version of mainichi no doriru,
they told to me to read the guide but the CoR doesn't have it
does it exist or should I buy the books
>>139234793
Sure you should be using this anon?
>>139234846
What's that? Fucking addition for little kids?
>>139234846
kids in japan use it. I don't really see the problem
>>139235218
ニッポンオキッドデスカ？
>>139235218
You're not a Japanese kid.
>>139235218
I don't think the learning methods for Japanese kids would be optimal for Westerners, even if it's 12 year old girls like us.
>>139235329
I don't know why, but this made me laugh ですくんさま
>>139220605
looks really good but doesnt seem to work
anyone got a similar collection?
>>139235329
>>139235352
I'm not in the same context as they are, I don't live there, but I find learning by repetition more comfortable than using stupid mnemonics like kanjidamage or RTK
Anyone played Stardew Valley in Japanese? Is it easy to read?
I want to play it but I don't have time to do shit that isn't studying/practising Japanese.
>>139235532
If you have something you want to read/play/watch I think you should do that regardless of how easy or difficult it is. Unless you have no shortage of compelling content.
>>139235657
It will be the first thing I'm attempting to read, so I think I should start with something really easy first, just to get somereally simple vocab and grammar down.
anyone watch japanese tv? where or how do you watch it?
>>139235377
ですくんさま looks like a japanese form of shake my head to be honest family.
>>139235532
Isn't that some western indie game? In that case they probably machine translated the whole thing. You need to look that up or you'll end up with something like http://ps4ch.com/archives/1053998658.html
>>139235813
Youtube.
>>139235813
>anyone watch japanese tv?
Yea.
>where or how do you watch it?
Ask in the irc instead.
>>139230763
>>139230768
>>139230945
Fuck off samefag.
>>139227994
>>139231688
This is exactly what is wrong with these threads.
