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>>139193162
>>139220268
出来ない
なるべく諦めない！
なせば大抵なんとかなる！
As long as you never give up and you keep pushing to better yourself, you'll make it no matter what. You CAN learn Japanese!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlCRfTmBSGs
Our highly qualified teachers not only work hard, but they care about each and every student that enters their classroom. I thank you, DJT teachers, for your sense of duty and compassion to our precious future generation.
まずは調子はどうだい
お前はまだ日本語分かってないですかい
ok ill say it in english. whats up dude
何年くらいここに居座ったんですかね
フラッシュカード勉強はどうだ？ 何か出来ますか？
いや答えるな
もう決まってるから
djtの勉強方法（皮肉と言えるだろ）なんて不完全なんだよ
証拠は？ このカキコ見ろ
結局何が分かるんですか？
何か勉強になりましたか？
多分無いね
そのなんでも無い生活に生きてる限り
今日も助けは来ない
ankiの書き込みに戻れ
そして踊れ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xEihW4oxuM
ぺにす
>>139220352
this spam is far too long
can't you just post like a paragraph or so like the other spammers
it takes up too much space
>>139220268
>http://bitlasers.com/djt
Use the direct URL next time.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pKgBm8Aa58mjB1hYhbK-VOPZsRBTXBuPBzw8Xikm2ss/pub?embedded=true
>>139220418
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nf5GlbRkRys
>>139220418
Not this shit again.
>>139220520
Fuck off spammer and use the direct URL like the /int/ thread does.
>>139220407
its a dire urgent message that must be delivered in its entirety
>>139220520
>most important is why this child has auti-
My besides
Alright, I’ll try posting this again. I've made backups of the LNs and textbooks from the CoR, and I think it would be helpful to try to distribute them. There's ~140gb of LNs, and ~60gb of learning materials.
I believe I've fixed the LN torrent. I’ve also edited the learning materials torrent to run better. You’ll need to turn on DHT to download.
>https://mega.nz/#F!m8gknCab!0eFs_LKBU522THz6sJbXlQ
Let me know if there are any problems and I can try to fix them.
>>139220418
Calm your autism. There's plenty merit to it and the guy doesn't get anything out of it.
>>139220608
until someone buys a fucken laser
>>139220608
Fuck off mate.
咬む
Rare kanji for your rare kanji babes
(p.s. don't add this, it was in the chuuni martial arts phrase "蛟咬の型" i.e. "dragon's bite form")
>>139220605
I guess I should have quoted the OP for more visibility >>139220268
>>139220666
It hasn't been an issue for the several months it has been the url in the OP, there's no reason for it to suddenly become an issue now. You're just fucking nitpicking because you need something to kick and scream over otherwise you won't be satisfied. Even if the URL is a direct link you'll just find something else to whine about. YOU fuck off.
>>139220674
i was able to read it meaning i've probably come across it before so why not add it if you want to?
>>139220674
my 嚙む is more rare and its older than my dad
>>139220733
>muh appeal to age
Just fuck off and post the correct url if you are going to make a thread, spammer.
>>139220605
>decentralized network enabled
>0 peers
You fucked up again.
>>139220783
I found that in だがしかし
>>139220834
did she bite a dudes dick or someth
>>139220818
>spammer
What? I'm not him if that's what you're implying, I'm just not autistic enough to be so triggered over a convenient and more compatible url that I'm gonna throw a shit fit about it until I get my way. It's never been an issue, he doesn't get any ad/referral/redirect money out of it like you were originally whining about, and it's still not an issue now. It's only an issue because you're making it an issue. I have no intention of using the google docs link and I'm not responding anymore, have fun with your hissy fit.
>>139220831
Should be working now, do you mind trying again?
>>139220771
>so why not add it if you want to?
Because wasting effort on ultra-rare kanji isn't worth it, practically speaking. Strategist, man.
>read Tae Kim
>can hardly remember anything
Anki deck it is.
>>139221084
This is the last time I put up with your shit I swear to god.
>>139221164
Rude.
>>139221230
I only tried the LNs and it seems O.K.
It just stopped downloading though.
>>139220320
kek
>>139221151
how the fuck do you expect to learn grammar from anki
>>139221299
These laughs, also the ones when you read shemales's tattoos make learning this shit worth it.
>>139221299
>>139221391
that pic is messed up desu
>>139221376
just stare at the flashcards and then you understand everything and you can post your anki stat sheet or whatever to prove your literacy
>>139220771
You could read 蛟咬? It doesn't even show up in google.
>>139221632
i was referring to 咬む
>>139221391
You mean the 馬鹿外人 one or something else? I don't remember any shemale.
>>139221632
i mean its not like 蛟 is something you never see
unless you dont play video games
>>139221376
Not like there aren't plenty of good grammar decks with explanations (not to mention the DoJG). Tae Kim has a tendency to ramble.
>>139220995
Only the website owner would be that offended to have his unrelated platform taken away from viewing eyes. Go be a jew somewhere else.
おはようおにいちゃん
きょうはりにんしきだよ
>>139221806
Eva Lin has a 女人禁制 tattoo.
>>139221888
Or he's tired of all the autists (or autist) ruining the thread by complaining about extremely inane shut like a url shortener.
It'd be nice to have a DJT thread where someone isn't accused of being autistic :)
>>139222067
おはよう
>>139222716
Where do you think you are?
>>139222067
おはよう、
いとしいのいもうと。
ところで、りにんしきにはなにおこる？
>>139222067
>12:44 JST
>おはよう
>>139222716
get a load of this autist
自閉症を解き放て
>>139222067
「きょう 【はり にんしき】 だよ」か？
>>139222900
きょう・は・りにんしき
>>139222990
にんしんしき?
>離任式
小学校の先生が任を離れる式
日本では学校行事では
終業式ー卒業式ー離任式の順で
三月末にまとめて行うことがほとんど
９月卒業というのはほとんどない
>>139222716
Autism isn't even an offense in /a/ anymore to be honest, everyone has been desensitized to most offenses except things like >reddit and
>tumblr
>>139222780
>>139222990
I guess this is why imouto is saying おはよう when it's 13:44 JST.
>>139222990
きょうはにんしんだよ
>>139222716
Maybe when king autism discovers the filter feature and leaves DJT behind to do something remotely productive with his time.
>>139223126
そしてあしたはにんしんちゅうぜつだね
>>139222067
You should put a tripcode on when answering language-related questions so that your useful educational posts are easier to find.
>>139222990
【りにんしき】は なにだよ
>>139223076
なるほどね
あるがとう
>>139223076
学校に行くことなんて一度もないわ
>>139220268
today while watching ibo i recognized almost all of the simple conversations with ease
it might not be much but i am improving
wish me luck DJT....slow insteady wins the racepocket turtles
>>139223382
what the fuck is that blue shit
>>139223409
pure evil
Is it worth trying to practice each sound or word separately for speaking? Or should I just go and talk to someone?
>>139223601
Japanese is one of the languages where individual sound practice helps. Just make sure you're practicing the sounds correctly.
>>139223601
do you know how like people pick up regional accents when they move to and live in a certain place for a while? getting your spoken japanese right is pretty imperative on being around other japanese speakers
luckily you can talk to people online so thats a good thing to do
>>139223409
that would be a smurf my friend
Looking through the CoR manga, I noticed that CoR-kun even renamed the files inside the archives to have consistent filenames. This is some hardcore autism.
>>139224000
It's not that hard do that with a script, it's not like he went through and did it by hand.
Didn't some guy said he found namasensei's videos in the CoR yesterday? Are they really there?
>>139224000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGZoiXUb5t8
>>139224205
you can find them anywher
>>139221812
I dunno I've never seen it and I've played a reasonable amount of rpg-ish eroge (but no console rpgs or anything). Keep in mind though that although it's easy to think stuff is really rare just because you haven't seen it, it's also somewhat easy to think something is common when it actually isn't because of limited experience, like maybe you've played a lot of games by one company and it appears in all those games, and therefore you think it's pretty common.
I won't claim to know which it is though.
出来ない
>>139224281
Fuck off.
>>139224305いいえ
>>139224334
自分を日本しろ
>>139224245
yeah i was referring to console games and mmos
you see that dude all the time in stuff that has any kind of mythology backdrop
>>139224205
They're here
https://mega.nz/#!GlRjEShL!zeuPsuEtOLycwU_MPbMlcDgRYJ0TpxXo1v8esm2bzjs
烏龍
麻雀
>>139223382
im confused i thought jamal was fluent
日本と中国の違い
中国人は牛乳を飲まない
日本人は牛乳を飲む
>>139225148
詰まり、日本人はhomoですか
What's the difference?
>>139225148
中国人だけど今牛乳飲んで中
>>139225452
one goes on your lips the other one goes on your 口
>>139225594
What do you think about that one angry guy thinking that you're imouto?
What are some good anime coming up next season? I wanna read the mangas for them
>>139225693
I think he's a pretty cool guy desu.
>>139225718
ばくおん is kind of like top gear sometimes except it's moe highschool girls and motorcycles instead of middle aged men and cars.
>>139225718
僕のヒーローアカデミア should be airing in a week
>>139225718
JoJo
Read a fucking hard game and recorded every word i bothered to look up. Enjoy
http://pastebin.com/SJjjWFNK
>>139226507
>no bully
>無学
でも簡単すぎなんだよ
>>139226640
I even thought that when I added it. I only even looked it up because I was lead to believe it meant something other than what it did, and institutionally hit "r" and then ti was too late.
Just curious, what's wrong with the old DJT guide? I wasn't here when discussion happens.
>>139226718
IIRC
- Didn't emphasize the importance of reading enough
- Too much superfluous details (history lessons in the kana descriptions for example)
>>139226507
What game was it?
>>139226780
It was hard in the sense that the vocabulary level was unrelentingly high throughout the entire game, a single screenshot doesn't really do it justice. Though I imagine someone more used to read this kind of game would have no trouble.
>>139226962
>This is an Equilibrium fanfic by Urobuchi Gen, the author of Saya no Uta.
Ha. Sounds interesting.
>>139227110
It certainly was. I'd even go so far to recommend watching the movie specifically to read Jouka. They go fantastic together.
Jouka also has a fantastic translation so if you're really low level you can reference it when you struggle with what a sentence means.
>>139226962
Is it just me or are like half the posters in the /jp/ thread also here?
>>139227271
That might just be me. I'm the only one dumb enough not to leave DJT after years of studying.
>>139227178
I'll have to find a torrent for the film then. Thanks for mentioning it, it looks great.
>>139227271
its just you
>>139227311
No, look closer. There's the Maitetsu poster, the Flyable Heart poster, you, and me, and those are just the ones who are obvious enough that it's clear they're the same person.
A couple threads ago someone posted a screenshot from a site where natives posted how long a VN took them to complete; does anyone have the link to it? I didn't save it.
>mfw need 40k words to be at the level of a high school student
>>139227462
cant you just like check the archive or whatever
>>139227481
I wasn't really sure what to search since I don't remember exactly what they posted, sorry.
>>139227462
EroGameScape probably. Unfortunately for me, the site has never loaded on my computer. I have to go to Google and search for name-of-game + Erogamescape and look at the cached page.
I wish VNDB would just steal the number from EGS instead of the really vague 10-30, 30-50, etc.
>>139226718
Nothing.
This newer guy just wants to imprint his ego on something someone else did a while ago. It pretty much sums up current DJT, really: general started up by someone ages ago with a small community driven guide then it gets taken over later by some anon who wants to introduce opinionated changes in order to make it "his". Then you have the new manifestation of the thread being a website for all of the smaller guide and resources pages, originally set up out of pocket by some anon who went out of his way to make sure that anyone could host it all as easily as possible.
Since the original thread/guide anon left, the thread slowly went from having a rather free open ended form to a highly regimented thing with a set image and memes at the start of every thread, people freaking out if anything changes at all.
Then you have the newer resource/site maker anon who left and those who took it over let everything stop, got pissy at suggestions, being so lazy that they allowed a huge chunk of the resources to be left in the whim of a single anon. To top it all off the newer anons who have made this thread their little safe space are defending avatarshitposters and defending the current host anon when he desperately tries to create a boogeyman over the recent cricitsm of anons who rather have djt a product of /a/ and not something hidden beyond a commerical website as though it is necessary.
The whole thing is a mess at the moment because the creators left and left everything in the hands of egotistical manchildren who want to control something they arbitrarily inherited at the cost of the community for which is was designed to be openly used and freely distributed. The guide and site went from 'here is something feel free to use and these are all the changes that were made and here is how you can recreate your own version without the changes you don't like' to 'fuck you, accept this and don't ever complain'.
>>139227784
That's the one. Thank you.
>I wish VNDB would just steal the number from EGS instead of the really vague 10-30, 30-50, etc.
Indeed, I was trying to see how long Fate/Stay Night is and they only list it as 50+ hours, which could mean just about anything.
So, I finally took a decision and deleted every single game I had, and am not downloading any for a while. I am going to start grinding Heisig once again (did it for a couple of days, got to some 150 kanji and stopped) and, after that, Genki for grammar. I have two friends who are having free classes with a Japanese native, but since I can't afford daily transportation I have to self-study, but at least I have people to talk about it. I do intend on posting my progress here at least weekly, if not daily. ETA for RtK 1 should be July/August. Wish me luck anons, I don't want to relapse into lethargy and depression anymore. This time I will prevail.
>>139227921
Seems like a twisted way of viewing it.
Aren't you the one trying to force the thread to conform to your own view of what it should be?
>>139227992
Good luck, anon.
Did you drop it last time out of boredom? I wonder if you wouldn't find it more interesting if you learned vocabulary first so you could get into reading sooner. Doing RTK by itself can be a bit of a grind without a reward for a while.
まあ、私の言いたい事はですね。つまり、なんて言うんですかね、んー、そのまああれなんですよ。ほら、あれだよあれ。えーっとね、だからさっきまではっきりと覚えているのだけど、ちょっと思い出しているだけで時間はかかるけど、あれのことなんだけど、それが思い出せばはっきりといえるのだけどね。 う～ん、もうすぐ思い出せそうなんだけど・・・ああ、最近めっきり記憶力が悪くなってね。記憶力って言っても短期記憶力ってやつね。昔のことは結構覚えてるんだ。 おっと、脱線したね。本題を忘れるところだったよ。ええっと、なんだっけな？ えっと、あれだよあれ。なんだっけな・・・あ、でも今分かったよ。あれだ。 そうだよあれだ。 でもねー。んーと、あれ？なんだっけ。ほらアレだってのに。 ってあれって何だっけ？ テレビのあれだっけ。 っていうかテレビってどういう構造してるんだろう。
>>139227992
>So, I finally took a decision and deleted every single game I had
Make sure you have some way to unwind at least, otherwise you'll just end up quitting even faster once your initial determination wears off.
>>139228031
くそっ
まっすぐにいえ！
>>139227992
The secret to success is to do something every day. Make that your goal. Skipping a day is the first step toward quitting.
>>139228087
Even astrophysicists and presidents take days off, it's just a matter of not going overboard with it.
>>139228141
Do they, though? Maybe they take a break from an intensive workload, but it's still on their minds and all around them.
>触らぬ神に祟り無し
From context, they're saying everyone here has lost someone/something important to them, so they understand their pain, but gramatically wouldn't this mean all the people present are *lost* persons themselves? How does that work? They're not dead ghosts or anything.
>kanji first instead of vocab
>>139228190
CONTEXT
>>139228190
I want to say it's just 皆（何かを）失っている人 with the 何かを omitted.
>>139228190
I believe it's more like "people who have lost (something)."
>>139228021
>>139228040
>>139228087
Last time I was isolated in a place with no Internet, or any kind of technology for that matter, with an INSANELY boring 10 hour job, but I had enough time to study at least. When I came back to the big city, internet+tablet+laptop meant I abandoned Japanese for the fast rewards brought by gaming. Isolating myself as much as humanly possible from the Internet should be the best way to try and replicate those conditions once again. Finding a job and start working out again are my 2 other priorities. I will just occupy myself with things that actually allow me to express other sides of my personality. Gaming and academic pursuits means that I am a pretty rational, analytical, logical person (thus I can just grind RtK and convince myself that I'm going for the long game), but I've always neglected my social, emotional and physical sides. It is time I start diversifying my bonds, later restart my Uni, live a holistic lifestyle and embrace things I love but never took the time to do, like learning new languages.
Sorry for the long rant, I am not a concise person.
>>139228227
Why? I do not really care about spending the first 3 to 6 months forever removing what would usually be a burden for most people. Any other reason besides that, anon?
>Skipped my reps for a week
>>139228190
Pretty sure it can't be interpreted that way because 失う is transitive. Interpreting it as people being in a state of 失う is impossible.
>>139227430
I'm here too, your friendly neighbourhood russian.
>>139228273
Yeah I was guessing probably this. Fucking hate how they cut shit out.
>>139228250
>Implying you need any more than was given.
>>139228190
If you wanted it to be "lost people", it would be 失われた人たち and it would raise the question of who lost them.
>>139228164
Of course they do, obviously a president needs to be a in a position where they can be contacted at any given time should something critical arise, but you can bet your ass they won't be thinking of politics when they have a rare chance to instead spend a day with their family or something similar.
Giving yourself a break every now and then is good, abusing it for the sake of laziness is a different matter.
>>139228467
I don't think either of us can claim to know what the mind of a president is like on a day to day basis so let's just end this discussion here.
>>139228393
Can I get some sushi please?
>>139228724
I'm not black, 家族.I'm asian.
>>139228747
キム・テイですか
ザ・グレート・スシ・ニホン
Is it even possible to become proficient in Japanese?
>>139229020
The french hag here speaks 100% authentic japanese. Literally indistinguishable from a nip obasan.
So yeah.
>go to type in a search box/form
>nothings happening
>mfw heaps of rikai messages pop up
>was hovered over a word
>heaps of rikai settings changed
>it's not working anymore
Every fucking time
If you can't read this then you can't learn Japanese
「SSAいく」とは何？
>>139229131
Sourou
Sakiboso
Anonymous
>>139229130
But I can read that, yet I can't read Japanese. What now.
>>139229131
グーグルはあんたの友達ですわ。
>>139228499
I was the president of my high school anime club so I think I understand what it is like to be in those shoes.
What is the recommended amount of time to masturbate to cute anime girls for learning Japanese?
>>139229875
>not multitasking yet
give up now
So I'm a rather new beginner to Japanese, and I am currently a little confused about where to go next. I began my Japanese study by learning the basics of all of the kana, and then I went went to study kanji in RTK, in which I am about 600 kanji through. I know what I need to do next, but I don't know exactly how to do it.
What I want to tackle after RTK is pronunciation, vocab, and grammar. Grammar, at the very least, should be simplest; I'm planning to go through Tae Kim's guide and pick up the rest through reading of actual text. However, I'm more concerned about vocab and pronunciation, as I've heard mixed advice. Some say to learn pronunciation of kanji, and some say to learn only the pronunciation of vocab and that will teach me all I need to know.
So what should I do, and which resources should I use? I was planning on using memrise or a really helpful iOS app (simply called "Japanese") for vocabulary. Also which should I do first: vocab and pronunciation, or grammar? Or should I do both at the same time?
Edit: I apologise for the stupid comments that have been put in this thread. They are members of an ace attorney discord I moderate, and a common joke is that I am learning Japanese to play the unlocalised Dai Gyakuten Saiban. They are out of line, and please disregard them.
>>139230003
Go away spamkun.
>>139229130
Hachiman pls leave.
Long sentence of English is hard.
>>139230225
Long sentence of Japanese is hard too.
>>139230273
Long sentence of new language is hard too.
>>139230328
Long sentence of any language is hard too.
>>139230354
Long sentence of fluent language not hard.
>>139229218
ニヤッとした
>>139226962
Is it a sequel or just set in the same world around the same time as the events of the film?
>>139230225
>>139230273
>>139230328
>>139230354
>>139230577
All of these posts were from the same person.
Report obvious spam and for other posts, make sure to do a search for the text before responding. Spammer is making minor alterations in the text so be on the lookout for that. If it turns out to be copy/pasted questions, just report and ignore.
>>139230725
Easy on the paranoia.
>>139230725
Sure they were.
>>139230725
memes haha
オハヨウゴザイマス
腹を抱えて笑う麻
Is it customary to say "shitsureishimasu" when entering a shop?
>>139231311
kanker
Hey I'm almost done with core 2k and I was thinking of reading some stuff.
Is Katawa Shoujo in moon a good place to start? Since I already know the story and all, is the eng to nip translation ok?
>inb4 KS
>>139227994
It's hilarious, but also a little sad, how much that guy is projecting. He is triggered because his safe space didn't coddle him and his ugly OP image.
Anyone got a download link for Remembering the Kanji?
>>139231348
Only if it's some tiny granny shop and the owner is nowhere to be seen.
>>139231669
Like, what's the point of reading an OELVN translated to Japanese? Reading VNs in Japanese is great because you are able to enjoy them the way the authors intended, or if they aren't translated at all.
IMO.
>he's harassing feedback guy about the bitlasers link now
I learned 2k words and I still can't read japanese.
>>139232295
You need around 10k words for fluency.
You need more than that in order to read fiction without ever stopping or guessing.
Basically, you've still got a very long road ahead of you.
>>139232295
That's strange. You should be able to read pretty much any manga by now. Obviously except the ones with kanji play.
>>139232295
Did you study the grammar or did you fall for the vocab meme?
>>139227992
>>139228314
This is a pretty ironic post for me, because I just got off a 1 year study binge of doing nothing but study Japanese. I've been spending a lot of time trying to get back into video games and other such recreational activities that I abandoned all that time ago.
>>139232411
I can read most manga relatively quickly. It's visual novels and light novels that make me stop every few words.
So, I learned 1400 kanji. Is this enough and I can start grammaring now? I heard that this amount of kanji will be enough for the first year of reading, is that true?
>>139232457
If that statement is true, either your sample size is far too small or you're ignoring a fuckton of the dialogue and missing a lot. 2k is not enough for most manga.
>>139232508
You should have started grammar right from the first kanji or even before.
There is no set amount of kanji that will be enough for x years of reading. You will always encounter some kanji you don't know, it's just a matter or how rarely. Your biggest problem is how many actual words you know, not kanji.
>>139232514
It's enough for manga I read. Your manga doesn't look good.
>>139232553
>It's enough for manga I read
So, sample size too small. Next time say "I can read dumb moeshit/porn relatively quickly".
>>139232534
I know 1400 kanji so I guess about 1400 words. And I know the common words like arigatou etc, but I actually don't know the kanji for arigatou, gozaimasu and stuff like that. But isn't it better to study the kanji before starting the complex grammar?
>>139232593
>I only read comics for grown adults such as myself
>>139232597
>But isn't it better to study the kanji before starting the complex grammar?
IMO absolutely not. It's best to do everything in parallel, that way you can connect the dots much easier and get a balanced knowledge and skill of the language.
I don't know how long you spend learning all those kanji, but if you barely know any grammar or actual words, you still can't speak or read at all. So did it feel like a good use of your time?
>>139232641
Not even grown adults. Read pretty much anything outside of that braindead bubble, even moe-yuri stuff like Stella no Mahou, and you'll be blown the fuck out. 2,000 isn't enough for anything except stuff so simple you can look at the pictures and understand everything going on.
>>139232514
>Artificial Genes Human Regenerated for Mental Support
What does this even mean
>精通
>1. acquaintance; having knowledge; being expert; being versed in; conversant
>2. first ejaculation
>>139232681
I've been studying for about 6-7 months now. But it's not a European language so I think I shouldn't be able to read or talk for at least 2 years.
There's a lot of kanji and vocabulary to learn, I'm not even talking about the complex grammar. Do you really think it can be handled simultaneously?
>>139232708
It's a sci-fi manga where a guy is about to die due to disease so he's given a Lover, a artificial human generated from the genes of a dead individual with modified intelligence to fall in love with him. It's a pretty interesting medium through which to express the transience, and perhaps shallowness, of love. It's a pretty grim manga.
>>139232781
Dude are you serious? Watch this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5IPArDxO40
>>139232781
Of course it can be handled simultaneously, that's how everyone else it doing it. I've never heard of anyone trying to study thousands of kanji before doing the basics other than you.
>>139232831
forum.koohii.com
>>139232811
Did I do something terribly wrong? :(
I'll watch it now and report back, thanks.
>>139232831
But I start feeling uneasy when I look at a native Japanese text, it's just to hard for me... Some stuff written for beginners is fine, but the stuff with no furigana/roumaji is just too much for me at this point.
>>139232869
>Did I do something terribly wrong
Yeah, sorry. The fundamental act of language learning is reading. It is by far the most important (along with listening) thing to do to learn a language. You are suggesting waiting two whole years to start! Well, thats how I interpreted it anyway. That's a terribly wrong philosophy that'll hurt you a lot since its' the opposite of true.
It is through the struggle of conquering native Japanese text that one improves. Smile in joy every time Japanese intimidates you, for every drop of sweat you shed tackling it down is a leap forward towards fluency. Seek challenge and devour it.
>>139232784
Sounds interesting. What's the name of the manga?
>>139232922
愛人［AI-REN］
おふろはいらずにねるとこだった
おふろまいにちはいろうね
>>139232864
Can you write the whole 2000 Kanji from memory? visualize them? Most people just know how to read .
>>139232811
Thanks for the video, but does that really work for everyone? Seems like he is some kind of a genius if he can read grammar in 1-3 months already. Czech a lot easier than Japanese.
And how do I import some mangas into the link of whatever he said? Seems like a great thing.
>>139232912
Thanks for the motivational speech, I think there's some truth to it.
ワタシは日本人です何か質問ありますか？
>>139233068
>but does that really work for everyone?
Absolutely.
>Seems like he is some kind of a genius if he can read grammar in 1-3 months already.
To quote him
>Do I understand all of it? No.
He's not reading like you or me read English. He's reading to learn, and he does learn.
>>139233236
二次元の嫁は誰ですか？
>>139232704
I haven't come across anything with much difficulty. I mean I've pretty much only read shounen shit like spirit circle and mahou tsukai no yome and I'm fine with reading only those. I'd rather start reading VNs or something I want to read rather than trying to read something I might not like.
>>139232781
yeah. it's more work for a while, but it makes it easier when you do it simultaneously. think about learning a new word in your native language. it's a lot easier to do because you know about *how* you can use that word, which is because of your knowledge of grammar. because you know how it's useful to you, your brain finds it more pertinent to memorize, as you are thinking of possible ways to use this word.
instead of learning kanji and vocab in a sort of vacuum, learning grammar at the same time allows you to think of those words within a meaningful context. and this sort of thing gains momentum because grammar is a broader and more fundamental part of the language on which the finer-grained feature of words and kanji sit.
>>139233357
If you call Spirit Circle shit one more time I will fight you I swear to god.
But really, like I said, either your sample size is too small (only read a couple manga) or you're ignoring a lot. 2,000 is simply not enough words. It could also be that you know a lot more than 2,000 words but are underestimating yourself.
>>139233357
>>139233418
I meant "call it shounen shit" one more time. Spirit Circle is a manga by the legendary Mizukami, and not only is it seinen it's also very well written and high quality. The opposite of shounen shit.
>>139233357
>neither of those are shounen
sasuga retards
>200 word essay due in two weeks
>don't even know 10 words
Help!
>>139233322
中原岬です
>>139233639
きもっ
At what point is it possible to play games on consoles where I can't texthook? Is one month enough?
>>139233747
I played Demon Souls on my ps3 after 1.8 years and it was pretty smooth going.
>>139233770
read all the item descriptions i'm sure? besides that there isn't a ton of language in souls, especially because the voices are english.
>>139233890
The item descriptions weren't tough at all. The voices were in English but I read the dialogue subtitles, pretty much every line of dialogue was different in the Japanese text than it was in the spoken English, so it was still worthwhile to do. The hardest part by FAR were the archstone worldbuilding descriptions, in describing the outlandish locations the vocabulary level increased dramatically. Also, if I hadn't read Hatsumira beforehand I would have been absolutely thrashed by a lot of the 言い方, though luckily I did so I wasn't.
>>139233890
Do you read item descriptions in English games too?
>>139233958
You should for souls game, they have really interesting stuff contained within and are very worthwhile. It's not like a lot of rpgs where it's just "a wooden sword"
>>139233770
So one month is not enough?
>>139234073
Well, it depends. You can learn 3k words and grammar in that time if you're an Adderall freak.
>>139234073
1.5 months+3 days and 2 hours will be enough.
>>139232453
Don't get me wrong, I LOVE gaming (mostly analyst work rather than playing but still), but so much focus on it and college has completely gimped my life to the point I dropped Uni twice because of a lack of interest, which has been diagnosed by a psychiatrist as a mental block. Diverting my attention to other tasks and taking a slower pace was the recommendation and I hope Japanese helps me get out of this hellhole.
How is your Japanese now, after a year? How did you go about your studies, learning everything at once or isolating different parts and tackling them one by one? Are you currently able to read/watch the content you first wanted to? My main goal is to start reading VNs after a year, year and a half of deliberate studying.
>>139233958
in souls games, yeah. they're 10% descriptions of the item 90% lore and story. it's like the central way information about the world is very explicitly told in the games.
>>139233957
>pretty much every line of dialogue was different in the Japanese text than it was in the spoken English
>The hardest part by FAR were the archstone worldbuilding descriptions, in describing the outlandish locations the vocabulary level increased dramatically
really interesting to know. definitely will replay that in japanese once i have the sufficient knowledge
>>139234202
All I did for the entire year was read VNs and do anki. I did a year of binge studying, but I had gone through Tae Kim and Core2k in the months before that, which means indeed I learned everything at once, there's no real need to put of grammar and you should start vocabulary/kanji the moment you finish kana so it's only natural to end up doing everything at once. Now I can read nukige/moege with 0 problems and keep up with anime fairly well, though I still need to practice. So in that sense I accomplished my goal, and its why I'm trying to ease back into video games.
I asked the other day if someone had a pdf version of mainichi no doriru,
they told to me to read the guide but the CoR doesn't have it
does it exist or should I buy the books
>>139234793
Sure you should be using this anon?
>>139234846
What's that? Fucking addition for little kids?
>>139234846
kids in japan use it. I don't really see the problem
>>139235218
ニッポンオキッドデスカ？
>>139235218
You're not a Japanese kid.
>>139235218
I don't think the learning methods for Japanese kids would be optimal for Westerners, even if it's 12 year old girls like us.
>>139235329
I don't know why, but this made me laugh ですくんさま
>>139220605
looks really good but doesnt seem to work
anyone got a similar collection?
>>139235329
>>139235352
I'm not in the same context as they are, I don't live there, but I find learning by repetition more comfortable than using stupid mnemonics like kanjidamage or RTK
Anyone played Stardew Valley in Japanese? Is it easy to read?
I want to play it but I don't have time to do shit that isn't studying/practising Japanese.
>>139235532
If you have something you want to read/play/watch I think you should do that regardless of how easy or difficult it is. Unless you have no shortage of compelling content.
>>139235657
It will be the first thing I'm attempting to read, so I think I should start with something really easy first, just to get somereally simple vocab and grammar down.
anyone watch japanese tv? where or how do you watch it?
>>139235377
ですくんさま looks like a japanese form of shake my head to be honest family.
>>139235532
Isn't that some western indie game? In that case they probably machine translated the whole thing. You need to look that up or you'll end up with something like http://ps4ch.com/archives/1053998658.html
>>139235813
Youtube.
>>139235813
>anyone watch japanese tv?
Yea.
>where or how do you watch it?
Ask in the irc instead.
>>139230763
>>139230768
>>139230945
Fuck off samefag.
>>139227994
>>139231688
This is exactly what is wrong with these threads.
Anyone know what this fucker's meant to be?
What did the muslim say when the qt jap girl wanted him to fill her womb with jizzThat's 孕む
>>139236096
that channel seems dead
I invented some new Kanji, how do I type them on the internet machine? And how to add furigana?
>>139236460
>Handwritten shit
Not even once
>>139236553
>宝いていたっけ
I don't think so.
>>139236604
Oh it's the fucking shorthand, right.
Yotsuba has a wrapper around the manga that says 日の前には実物大の世界地図. "Before the sun is the actual size of the world map." What am I doing wrong?
>>139235813
http://wilsonjj.me/jptv/#
>>139236654
It's telling you to go out once in a while
>>139236648
Yeah, right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryakuji
>>139236654
I'm pretty sure that should be a 目
>>139236727
Fucking cancer. They need to stop using this shit.
>>139236184
Not really, he's trying to do pretty much exactly what he's accusing everyone else of. People were submitting suggestions throughout the creation of the guide and they were implemented, so it's not like it was even remotely one person making it. He's also exaggerating as if DJT is hosted on a commercial site when it's just a re-direct to our site. And then criticizing the feedback anon for not keeping backups or whatever when the only resource he has that the majority of the thread doesn't is the ability to edit the google docs; nothing stops literally anyone else in the thread from making backups. He's just bitter that he can't force DJT to be how he wants it to be.
>>139236727
This has been posted in the past like 4 threads I swear
>>139236727
>3
>12
>simpler
fucking bullshit
>>139236862
Fewer strokes innit
>>139236904
literally 1 fewer on both, what is the fucking point
>>139236842
Always in response to a question that happened to be about ryakuji, though. I'm also surprised. I've barely ever encountered them, neither reading or in DJT, and then all of a sudden there are loads, relatively speaking, of questions about them
>>139236936
Still a little bit faster to draw, less hand movement etc
The chances of you ever seeing that one is pretty low anyway, I've only ever seen the gate one and that was like once
>>139236936
>literally 1 fewer on both
12 has two/four less strokes
>he's spamming the feedback now because the thread isn't listening to him
>>139236994
Yeah but if you were designing "easier kanji" surely you'd actually make it worth the effort, not remove a single stroke
>>139237034
I was talking about them seperately. The top 12 Kanji has 1 less and the bottom 12 Kanji has 1 less. Or am I wrong about that? I'm not certain but they look that way to me.
>>139237117
Top one has 9 reduced to 7, bottom has 15 to 11
>>139236862
>>139236936
They're based on earlier, more complex versions of the same kanji.
>That feel when you learn a word based on context without having to look it up in the dictionary
this is how i learned まつり
>>139237474
Are you sure you learned it correctly? Look it up quickly. Just to be sure
>>139237505
i dont need to look it up fampire. i already know what it means.
>>139237537
>Hey anon lets go to the matsuri
>Sure thing I'll just fetch my swimtrunks
>>139236604
Shit what's the source of that pic? I know I've fucking seen it an enternity ago.
>>139235913
バカです先輩
>>139237777
checked
>>139228087
Based anon with good knowledge.
I having trouble finishing tae kim. I want to just get on with having fun reading like everyone else.
>>139238099
What's stopping you from reading in-between TK chapters?
>>139237777
How much gibberish does this look like to a native?
>>139228350
It's okay anon. Now just get back on the horse.
>>139237665
Samurai Champloo #18
>think your japanese is pretty decent
>go to 2ch
>cry because of all the vocabulary you don't know
>don't even know the pronunciation for 99% of it
Why even live
>>139238128
Isn't that not how it's done?
>>139229130
I can read it I just can't understand it.
>>139238295
>don't even know the pronunciation for 99% of it
What do you mean?
>>139233276
Yeah exactly this. It takes so many years to be perfectly fluent. But to understand most, and being able to get he rest through context doesn't take that long. It's about mind set. Don't expect to be perfect. Just do your best.
Are there any Japanese words where the same vowel occurs more than twice in a row? If so how would you pronounce that? I assume something along the lines of a long vowel + hiatus + short vowel, am I correct?
Can stroke orders be considered a myth?
>>139238383
Kanji is everywhere. It's not like English where if you don't know a word, you can at least sound it out.
Not knowing a word in Japanese is like "lol sux bro"
>>139238383
He probably means he doesn't know what readings to use in unfamiliar kanji combinations/usage.
>>139238453
I don't know, most of it is pretty intuitive except maybe for 万
>>139229130
I understand the last part, and that's all that matters in life really
>>139238526
How is that one not intuitive? It flows really nicely
馬ノ万個ヲ食ベタヰワ。
>>139223382
Good luck my friend!
>>139238631
It doesn't follow the general up-down>left-right """rule""" which while not a real rule can be applied to literally 99.9% of kanji. I don't really write down Japanese much, so I don't really care for stroke order.
You're all bullshitting me, there's no such thing as a Japanese language, you can just make up shit on the spot and it's a valid sentence. Nice fucking "language"
>>139238721
Oh yeah my bad, I thought the stroke order was what you'd expect it to be with the left stroke before the right one
God job I never have to write anything
>>139238782
No, you have to submit your sentences to Nippon first. They check it to determine if it's a valid Nippon no sentensu and then you're allowed to post it.
>>139238782
Shhh
>>139238855
>>139238863
The one thing that is real about Japanese are the nouns, everything else is made up syllables you glue up to the end of the nouns to pretend you're actually speaking a real language.
>>139238721
Left right before up down, anon. It also depends whether or not the stroke is a cutting diagonal or a connecting diagonal.
>>139238933
Heads up: the Emperor is coming after you, better leave your country now and move to Africa or the Middle East.
>>139238933
こいつぽ何ひ言うべじま
>>139239069
お前れどんぽ可愛いゑせんぱいんどく猫しほと。
>>139239069
Literally a valid sentence.
"""""""""""""""""""""""""'language"""""""""""""""""""""""""'
>>139227921
>The guide and site went from 'here is something feel free to use and these are all the changes that were made and here is how you can recreate your own version without the changes you don't like' to 'fuck you, accept this and don't ever complain'
I really think this isn't the case. I have told people over and over that they are absolutely free to make copies of the guide and modify them however they want, to write their own guide and have it implemented or do whatever else they want with the guide. You can print it out and masturbate all over it, scan it in again and upload it in reverse page order for all that I care. If you think that it would make for a better guide than what there currently is, feel free to do so, I have no problem with it. If the community thinks that what you came up with is better than what we currently have, I will by no means stand in your way of doing that. If it's obvious that people prefer your guide over what we currently have I'll gladly implement yours over mine.
There's nothing stopping you from making an OP in the next thread which doesn't use the website that has been set up and instead provide individual links to what you consider to be better versions of the documents we have. If people think that it's better, then people will keep on using it. There's no universal rule, stating that you must strictly adhere to the OP in it's current form. The only person stopping you from changing things is yourself, and as long as you continue to restrict yourself like that, you are in no position to complain about things.
I rewrote the guide out of a personal conviction, a feeling of debt towards this community and because I thought I could create something better than the old guide. If you think that you can create something better than what I came up (and I do not doubt that you are capable of that), then by all means go ahead and create something better.
/rant
>>139227921
>the current host anon when he desperately tries to create a boogeyman over the recent cricitsm of anons who rather have djt a product of /a/ and not something hidden beyond a commerical website as though it is necessary
Furthermore, I don't think that I'm creating a boogeyman anywhere. I have a personal conviction which does not go hand in hand with wanikani, but nowhere in the guide is a "boogeyman" being made out of it. It is simply stated what it does and what it offers, in comparison to Anki. If you can't deal with the fact that Anki offers the same possibilities as Wanikani while being free and not crippling the learner in his progress, then that is your problem. Refer to my previous post about how you are free to create a new version of the guide which praises wanikani above all things if you feel like it.
Who /JLPT2016/ here?
Taking either my N4 or N3 in Atlanta this winter, can't decide which
>>139239475
Might as well do N3, N4 is pretty pathetic
>>139239531
This. I'd rather fail N3 than pass N4.
>>139239531
>megane ko
>name is "shiori"
I wonder how Japanese people feel about that. Do they think nothing of it or do they consider it trite as fuck.
>>139239289
>There's nothing stopping you from making an OP in the next thread
>There's no universal rule, stating that you must strictly adhere to the OP in it's current form.
If I may interject for a moment, I don't think it's good to encourage people to take initiative and post the OP themselves. That starts OP wars. It's best to collectively decide something and move forward with it on common ground. Rather than rush to make the OP and claim dominance based on speed.
>>139239475
It might be almost time for me to take it
I'm still not confident I could get 95%+ on the N1 though
>>139239475
Anything less than N1 is a worthless waste of paper. You either know the language or you don't, and if you can't pass N1, you don't.
>>139239813
How long have you been studying Japanese?
>>139239769
I agree with you that it's a good idea to discuss things, but my point is that there is still nothing stopping people from doing so.
And if they do something that people think is good, then it will be kept up. If people think it's shit and stupid it will be treated accordingly. But ultimately there's nothing stopping people from creating something better than what we currently have and to implement it.
>>139239830
Mmmm, I completely disagree. But that is certainly a useful mindset if your aim is native or near-native fluency.
>>139238442
覆う isn't quite all the same vowel but it's useful to know that you actually have to pronounce the う as an う and not as an extended お sound
>>139239837
2 weeks
>>139240058
>But that is certainly a useful mindset if your aim is native or near-native fluency.
Why would you be willing to accept anything less?
>>139239475
I'm gonna take the N1 this year, been studying for 4 months so far.
>>139239475
I'm gonna attempt to become prime minister of Japan, been studying Japanese for about 5 minutes now.
>>139240207
You can't be 首相 if you're not Korean, sorry.
>>139240207
がんばれ
>>139239456
I think by boogeyman he means us knowing that it's just him samefagging his complaints thread after thread and that he's the one who did the /qa/ thread, OP spamming, link complaining, CoR deletion, complaining about the Sakura image not being accepted etc. and that he's upset that he isn't fooling anyone.
猫車
Why have I got such an adorable image in my head right now
>>139240207
Let's unite and create a new Shogunate. We will overthrow the current government and the Emperor.
>>139240153
Do I want to advance in my studies? Yeah, of course. But I don't think that getting that N3 benchmark on record is "worthless." It's a milestone.
>>139240359
But they can still wear nice things
>>139240359
Sounds like some real Douglas MacArthur shit anon-kun. I'm in.
>>139240352
>adorable
I think of the totoro bus which isn't exactly adorable
>>139240460
>>139240400
We will forsake our countries... We will leave our motherlands behind us and become one with this earth. We have no nation, no philosophy, no ideology. We go where we're needed, fighting not for country, not for government, but for ourselves.
![(1988) My Neighbor Totoro 1080p Blu-ray.mp4_snapshot_01.22.56_[2016.03.28_17.58.48].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/xI8Wvn9.jpg "(1988) My Neighbor Totoro 1080p Blu-ray.mp4 snapshot 01.22.56 [2016.03.28 17.58.48]")
>>139240540
>Cat bus
>Not adorable
What's wrong with you
>>139240400
underrated post
>>139240634
>What's wrong with you
た・・・たくさん！
阿弥陀仏ノ本願ニ、我カ名号ヲ称念セハ必(ス)来迎セント仰セラレタレハ、決定シテ引接セラレ参(ラ)センスルソト、深ク信シテ心ニ念シ、口ニ称口口疎カラス、既ニ往生シタル心地シテ、最後一念ニ至ルマテ断〈タユマ〉サル者ノハ、自然ニ三心ハ具足スル也
自分の私の俺のあたしのわしの自分自身の我々のわがのこと。。。。おやすみなさい皆さん。
ところで。
昨日の対話について、なにがあった？
>>139240352
>>139240540
>>139240634
>didn't know the word
>saw the kanji and the other posts
>assumed it was bus
>was really happy that "cat car" meant bus
>used Rikaichan
fuck
おはようおにいちゃん
ふたりでうんこしようよ
>>139242295
Back and forth
Forever
>>139242207
何の対話？
>>139242224
Nice context you got there, maybe you can take the 猫車 to the まつり
>>139239289
Mate, just ignore that man. He crazy.
>start reps
>getting everything wrong
>>139242902
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PagQ4PKYFZU
Use this, it'll improve your focus.
>>139242902
Truly the worst parts of learning Japanese are the parts that involve Anki
Just think of it like the more you fuck up the more you're improving
>>139242902
its ok you just need to put more hours into flashcards. itll all work out eventually
>>139242797
I'm not very doubtful of what you're saying, but have this excerpt from an email I wrote earlier today regarding the matter, because I'm a lazy shit and can't be bothered to write basically the same thing a second time.
>People in the thread seem to be quite aware of that kind of behaviour and it gets called out when it occurs. Furthermore, it gives me a chance to emphasise how everyone is free to create a new, better guide, which I think is quite an important thing to be aware of, so I don’t mind.
>People in the thread are free to voice their opinions on matters. Even if some people have trouble with reading comprehension or just try to misunderstand everything as much as they possibly could, I’d still defend their right to voice their uninformed opinions. That’s why I find myself drawn to the cesspool of shit that is 4chan and to no other communities. Even if everyone thinks you’re an idiot, you still have the freedom to voice yourself, without having to fear repression of some sort or having your comments hidden or deleted. As long as such freedom exists will I continue to be driven by my conviction. Should it cease to exist, my life will be given for my conviction.
>I feel like I go a bit overboard at times like these, but I feel like I might as well underline my stance when I’m already at it.
>>139243060
you got issues dude
>>139243170
Possibly, but I don't mind.
>>139243170
great people start out as crackpots so it's all good
>>139243170
He's kinda chuuni but that makes him so cute
>>139243298
Yeah you pretty much need a five year long arc of chuunidom at some point if you want to become a serious academic
Otherwise you don't know how to write well enough
>all these vocab with 下
>all these vocab with 上
>all thrown at me together
anki why
>>139243391
Because you chose to do core
>>139243391
That's only the beginning.
>>139243391
Still better than those fucking days of the week
>>139243746
But those are easy and fun.
>>139243746
The days of the week are great
月曜 - Moon day
火曜 - The only one that doesn't have a thing so it's tuesday
水曜 - W in water = wednesday
木曜 - Fur tree = thursday
金曜 - Everyone goes out and spends all their Money on friday
土曜 - You Sat on the Ground after geting smashed on friday night and waking up in some random field
日曜 - Sun day
>>139244552
>Fur tree = thursday
I don't get it
>>139244649
Because it's a tree
A fur tree
FursdayFir*
>>139244649
In Norse mythology, Thor (/θɔːr/; from Old Norse Þórr) is a hammer-wielding god associated with thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, the protection of mankind, and also hallowing, healing and fertility.
>oak trees
>>139244724
>>139244705
So... Japan doesn't have native names for the days of the week?
In whatever calendar they used before the Gregorian, I guess.
>>139244875
https://www.google.com/search?q=history+of+japanese+week+day+names&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
http://www.sljfaq.org/afaq/days-of-week.html
>The Chinese had named (renamed?) the "naked-eye" planets after the Five Elements, water, metal, fire, wood, earth (listed in one of two "citation" orders), so Mercury was "water star," Venus "metal star," Mars "fire star," Jupiter "wood star," and Saturn was "earth star." The Japanese renderings (go-on) of the Chinese names are, in the same order, kasei, suisei, mokusei, kinsei, and dosei.
>>139244980
Reminds me of the planet names in Kirby. Popstar, Rockstar, etc.
I know this is a bit of text, but I was wondering if someone could proofread it for me? I think I'm fucking up some basic grammar, so I'd really appreciate some redlines where they are due.
たいていの魔物は この世界じゃ
その姿を 長く保つことはできん
そこで人間に 潜り込む▽
Most demons cannot sustain their
own bodies for long in this world.
That is why we dwell within humans.▽
魔物は ズル賢い\n
ナマハンカなコトじゃ シッポを出さん▽
While demons are sly, devious,
[some do half-assed things, like
leave their tails sticking out.]▽
((Otherwise in the game, demons stick out of humans by their tail, so I'm not sure if it's referring to that?]
ミュウ族ってのはたぶん、人間にとりついた
魔物を ニオイで 探せるンだろうよ、
それが使命だとすると 笑わせるなあ▽
The Mieu Clan tracks down the "scents"
of demons who cling to humans. I'd
laugh if that was all it was, though.
我輩なら とりあえず 頭をもいでみる\n
生きてたら魔物だし 死んだらただの人間、
このほうが 間ちがいがないし断然早い▽
水曜日口頭試験がある。怖い。できない。
>>139245134
>口頭試験
勃ってきました
>>139244552
yee I remembered Friday the same way
>>139245045
ズル賢い is one word
>ナマハンカなコトじゃ シッポを出さん
They won't just show themselves for anything (For half assed things, they won't show their tail)
>laugh if that was all it was, though.
? Look up 使命
I'm currently going through Core2k/6k and I'm doing pretty well but on words that have a common Kanji I mess it up very often.
Am I best doing KanjiDamage on the side to help me remember vocab better, or should I just grab the common Kanji that bother me and learn them alone?
>>139245405
>使命
I initially had "if that was their true mission", but I didn't know if it was "If that was their true mission, I'd laugh" or somesuch.
>>139245505
I'd interpret it as kind of an (internal) sense of duty. I expect that line connects to something earlier in the conversation though where 使命 was mentioned.
>>139245505
id laugh if that was their (only) purpose
>>139245825
It was briefly referred to by a Mieu (Mew) character from the end of the previous chapter (as this is from the beginning of the 2nd). She isn't present in this scene though. It's an internal duty among the remaining members of the clan, so you're right about that.
>>139245885
That was the meaning I got out of that too, which was why I felt safer shortening it, but I can see where I was making a bad habit of it if it's reading off as something else.
>>139245954
Yeah so he's probably just saying it's silly to use those methods out of duty rather than just ripping off their heads
>>139245990
Oh, hah. That's what I had for the last sentence (which I left out by mistake, but I was more confident on that one anyway). Anyway, I really appreciate the help. I was coming back to that scene after a while and I hate not having a second opinion on things.
Where do you guys get raws for more niche series? I heard うどんの国の金色毛鞠 was getting an anime adaption and wanted to check the manga out, but all the DL sites I can find are linking to an official site.
Do I have to learn kanji readings even though I'm not a filthy subvocalizer?
>>139247384
honto.jp, amazon.co.jp, cdjapan
>tfw trolls repost your images
what a warui kimochi
>>139247432
you dont have to do shit
>>139247529
your posting is warui kimchi
>bitlaser shill everywhere
Fuck this thread.
あさのごじだよ
おはようおにいちゃん
>>139246739
>That's what I had for the last sentence
Well yeah, I read the last sentence since you posted it (with no translation). It's not like I just guessed that out of nowhere.
What are popular children's stories to read so I at least know I'm at elementary student level. I don't want to keep shooting for middle school and high school without seeing some good progress.
>>139247887
That's it. I'm going to buy a laser.
>>139247887
>getting THIS triggered over a short re-direct link in the OP
We'd probably use the google link shortener but that's blocked on 4chan. In fact, that's how the original conversation happened. Any decent redirect services were blocked on 4chan so that guy offered it and DJT welcomed it and didn't really care about the bitlasers site itself.Not responding again by the way, so don't take my lack of response as winning an argument
>>139248386
i pointed mine at my dick and burned it to a crisp
>>139248155
おはようぅ
>>139248459
is it really so hard to just triple click a url and copy it though
why dont you just buy a domain to redirect from if you have an opinion on people simply not liking the state of teh current link
>>139248477
>This laser is strong enough to produce a clearly visible beam, even in lit indoor areas. In darkness, the beam is absolutely stunning. It will burn holes in various materials, such as plastic and rubber, and can ignite certain materials such as paper and wood without aid.
>DANGER: This laser is not a toy, it is capable of causing permanent blindness, as well as posing a skin damage - and fire hazard. NEVER, EVER point this laser at any person, animal or flammable material. We recommend that you obtain and use appropriate laser protection glasses while operating the laser.
W A N T
A
N
T
>>139247529
>look at me, i use a hipster faggot keyboard!
>>139248459
Dear Rajeev:
$2.99 dollars has been deposited in your bank account.
Regards,
Michael Ganesh
Bitlaser Marketing Manager
Is shilling his lasers the new DJT meme? Please let it become a thing, especially if we go back to the google docs link for the OP
>>139248618
I don't want to spend money.
>>139248720
I miss Wanikani.
>all this talk about lasers
>>139248720
Yeah, lasers are pretty cool, man. Fampaitachi need to realise that having a big ass laser on your shelf will boost your Japanese learning abilities by at least 50%
>>139249150
The best way to learn kanji is to get a large piece of wood, a handy laser from bitlasers , and etching "まったく、近親相姦はかっこいい猫だぜ" 50 times into the piece of wood using the laser and leaving it in your room as a reminder. And of course turning it on and burning stuff for fun because >>139249108
>>139248618
>why dont you just buy a domain to redirect from if you have an opinion on people simply not liking the state of teh current link
Here's a better idea.
Why don't YOU buy a domain if you're not happy with the current redirect link?
>>139249217
stand in front of a mirror and burn 出来ない across your chest backwards with your quality real laser from bitlasers
>>139249296
He'd probably redirect it to a malicious site whenever he was in a bad mood.
Researchers says that having a laser pointed in your forehead while studying increases your retention by up to 80%.
>>139249296
why would i do that then theres one less thing to talk about in djt effectively putting it one foot deeper into its grave
>>139249296
Because if he's anal retentive enough to care about something like the slight possibility of a NEET in a Japanese learning thread trying to import a laser from across the world, then he's probably the sort of person who would put something malicious on that site.
I really want to buy a laser right now.
>>139249375
ive never been in a mad mood on djt theres no reason to be its the place to have fun and chat
I never even noticed that bitlasers was an actual company until it was pointed out here. I thought it was just the name some autist gave his fuck-around site. What the hell?
>>139249478
It was pointed out when we started using it but no one cared. Now that it's a proven fact that quality lasers from bitlasers increase your retention though, it's an honor to have the thread sponsored by them.
>>139249531
>It was pointed out
OY VEY
>>139249531
I think it's kind of funny this way. Legitimate customers are browsing lasers in the front while we yell at each other about RTK in the back.
>>139248163
I mistakenly skipped posting my last translation, that's what I was referring to, is all. i didn't notice I had done so until you even brought up the sentence, which is why I said that. Anyway, thank you again for double checking my work.
Hi again, bitlasers domain owner here. Fuck this drama so I'm removing the link shortener. I've changed the page to a placeholder (might not show due to browser cache if you've recently used the link though), and I will remove it altogether once a new thread is made without the link in the OP. Let's focus on learning Japanese from now on.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYWlMwySIeE
>>139249675
weak
>>139249675
Based. I'll be buying 10 lasers shortly.
>>139249675
but now that one guy will go back to complaining bullshit about the guide
Or the CoR.
Who's psyched to watch this raw and shitpost while it airs? I'm disappointed its not in this thread right now
今日も一日がんばるぞ！！
>>139249675
thanks a lot for doing your part to kill djt i cant wait to get back to focusing on japanese personally
tumbleweed flies by
i swear this dedicated sakura shitposter is trying every trick in the book
>>139249747
oops
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5jO-orwaQE
>>139249675
>he actually got his way by kicking and screaming until he got what he wanted
This NOT how to deal with autism, folks(though I do understand why you'd want to do it).
I wonder what he'll switch his attention to and whine about next.
>>139249747
がんばってるおにいちゃんがすき
>>139249798
She didn't even say it
Dropped
>>139249675
I'll register memes.moe for us to use then
>>139249941
Yeah, no, I'm not trusting your shady-fucking-ass site.
>>139249941
No, if we're not using bitlasers and bitlasers owner isn't the one getting the new domain since he's shown he can be trusted, I'd rather not use any link shortener at all. I don't want to run any risk of him being the one who buys it and having it redirect to something malicious when he gets mad at DJT.
>>139250004
It's okay. memes.moe/djt will just be a redirect to the google site, and on the memes.moe main page I'll be selling memes-producing lasers. It's for the good of memes everywhere.
>>139249798
Please don't let this be 2 minute episodes.
Why did we switch to Bitlasers anyway? I remember there was some bullshit that lead to it being the solution.
I can buy a domain but only if I get money whenever someone clicks it. :^)
>>139250166
Link shorteners being blocked on 4chan so someone offered to set up a re-direct on his site for us. No one gave a shit then, it's only a problem now because that one guy who hates DJT wanted to find something new to complain about.
>>139250166
To sell more laser duh.
>>139250260
Fuck off.
>>139250166
Other link shorteners was spammed with DMCA requests and always got taken down
>>139249798
働きたくないよ
>>139249675
Autism wins when good men give in. He'll be back to talking about how DJT doesn't belong on /a/ or whining about the new guide next thread.
>>139250276
i mean it does link to copyrighted material made available for others to steal. this seems logical
>>139250386
Honestly, I'm kind of curious to see what he'll come up with next. Any complaints he's made about the new guide so far have been shat upon (rightfully so) by multiple people and answered to by guide anon, so I don't think he'll find anything to really complain about there.
>>139249798
Looks wank, just like the manga.
>>139250418
Fuck off.
>>139250418
It links to a site that links to other sites hosting pirated material. By this logic pretty much every site on the internet should be banned since most of them are at most two degrees of separation away from pirated stuff in some way.
>>139249747
>>139249798
>find good manga
>enjoy it, read all the available chapters
>suddenly anime is announced
>start hating the franchise entirely
Why am I a hipster only for manga?
>>139250465
Judging by the feedback he'll probably go on about how the guy doing CoR stuff is shit for not backing everything up even though anyone can do that.
>>139250503
its true why cant you report the doc to google or whatever then though that seems like the best way to go
>NEW GAME! anime announce
Looks like we need to find a new mascot.
What'cha you say, lads?
>>139250681
Heh, thanks for reminding me to make a backup.
>>139250681
This >>139250748
I've been making doc backups more often ever since this guy started going on his rampage.
>>139250791
Glad to hear that. Cheers.
>>139250550
Just ask him why HE doesn't back things up in that case.
Then he'll have to go find something else to whine about.
>>139250985
People have and he has no coherent response. I don't think it really matters to him. The things he argues aren't things he really believes, he's just grabbing for any excuse to shit on the thread.
>you will never learn Japanese names
>>139251210
I struggle with most english names, I'm fucked for sure when I get around to Japanese names
Complete beginner here, is there a reason why Japanese Level Up is not mentioned in the CoR? Is it complete shit and I should just go for Tae Kim, or is it worth a try?
>>139251703
>spend more than a week fucking around "starting your journey" and "preparing your equipment"
What's this shit?
>>139251703
JALUP is the same stuff as AJATT is the same stuff as Kaufman is the same stuff as Antimoon is the same stuff as Krashen is the same stuff as DJT. It's all the same basic principles with a few modifications for various tastes. Input before output and use an SRS.
>>139252709
JALUP does have a large slant towards going fully monolingual in your learning as early as possible, so if you're interested in that and need some help with the challenges it can pose you might want to check some of their articles about it.
>Supposed to start reading at 2000 words
>Well past that and haven't even started
I've barely even skimmed my grammar books as well. I guess I'm one of those retards that ended up only doing Anki somehow.
>>139252778
Perfect, the more direct exposition the better. That was how I learned English and I do believe it is the best way to go about things.
>>139253164
Just buy a high quality laser from bitlasers that has been proven to increase your Japanese ability several times over.
>>139253164
Get a Tae Kim deck and you'll magically learn grammar through Anki too and gain the ability to read.
>>139253398
Is there anything that can't be done at anki?
>>139253425
Learn Japanese.
>>139253472
I guess.
>>139253286
bitlasers屋からレーザーを買った
次の日に日本語を習った
Why is this bitlasers shit getting posted about constantly?
>>139253595
its the primo way to learn japanese even better than wankikani or anki
おにいちゃん
おみずのみたい
>>139253690
やれやれ
お水な妹ちゃんだね
>>139253595
Autist claims the OP pasta uses the bitlasers link just to promote anon's business, whines for 3 days straight and now it's a meme. Funnily enough he's behind a lot of the "wow guess i should get a bitlaser now" posts, probably some autistic kind of passive aggressiveness
Wonder what he'll whine about next, he's sure as fuck not going to stop coming here being the self proclaimed sad cunt that he is
>>139253690
いいタイミング
おしっこしたい
>>139253995
>>139253781
どゆことー
それってどゆことー
>>139253837
i mean that dudes gay but with a post like that are you really any better just like on a fundamental coolness level
>>139253837
Could be worse, he could do something similar to what happened to the buyfag guide which will get it blocked. Which meant we had to switch away from google docs which was a bit annoying.
Make sure to constantly back up all google resources, it seems to be pretty easy to get them blocked for good.
>>139254147
>Could be worse, he could do something similar to what happened to the buyfag guide which will get it blocked. Which meant we had to switch away from google docs which was a bit annoying.
wh-what happened there?
>>139254210
Guide got blocked by something which would have been very to do on any future google doc, so it had to moved to a different website. It ended up that some guy made a wiki for it but it's by no means the best system.
>>139254087
セックスしたいってことだよ
あなたと
>>139254332
まったく、近親相姦はかっこいい猫だぜ
Does anyone have a list of the jouyou kanji that have been removed from Kanji Damage?
>>139254087
しょうべんのむことだよ
>>139254332
>>139254399
そこまではng
しょうべんのむことだけだった
ZAWA ZAWA
How can I learn Japanese when I can't even solve this captcha?
>>139254833
anyone serious about learning japanese has a bitlaser and a 4chan pass in their toolbox
![Mei and the Kittenbus (CAMRip) (SD).mp4_snapshot_11.56_[2016.03.28_18.35.14].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7DWAWlB.jpg "Mei and the Kittenbus (CAMRip) (SD).mp4 snapshot 11.56 [2016.03.28 18.35.14]")
>>139240634
Kittenbus is superior.
BD release never.
>>139254833
This >>139255209
I bought a bitlaser and now I'm able to read all my animes and watch all my mangas with ease.
>wake up
>"today is the day I read Tae Kim!"
>only have tome for Anki reps
>finish reps
>go to sleep
>repeat forever
How the fuck do you even find the time to learn Japanese? I'm a neet and I still have too many chores to do anything but my reps.
＞いる新しの/djt/の学生
＞ポーストお読もうとする
＞「ちんぽ」
＞「いぬのちんぽ」
＞「おおきペニス」
＞「うんこ」
いつもとき。
>>139255379
is that a tutorial on how to bypass greentext?
>>139255373
My NEETness came to an end recently, and I have no fucking idea how I ever used to manage time before, it's hell. I stopped doing anki though, I just read now and that helps a lot.
>>139255373
>wake up
>drive to work
>do Anki while driving
>read and do Tae Kim at work
>finish up reps while driving home
>repeat
Time to get a job retard
>>139255373
How much time do you take for your Anki reps?
>>139255373
Arrange your time properly, I've found that if I have shit that needs done then I'll concentrate a lot more on my reps. The amount of time you waste will probably surprise you, stop going on 4chan until you're done with whatever you needed to do.
Also don't do the mistake of having your reps open and also having a browser or something open, if you're anything like me then you'll end up switching constantly and so you won't really be concentrating.
>>139255584
>>do Anki while driving
>>read and do Tae Kim at work
>>finish up reps while driving home
What kind of job do you have to be able to do that?
>>139255379
>ポースト
>>139255584
>wreckless driving
>not working while at work
Hope you get sacked you cunt, it's shitters like you that stop honest people like me from being able to get a joband for that I thank you
>>139255654
＞I'll concentrate a lot more on my reps. The amount of time you waste will probably surprise you,
>>139255658
IT and security guard comes to mind.
>>139255373
>I'm a neet and I still have too many chores to do anything but my reps.
What chores?
>>139255756
Yeah so you personally don't actually have a job where you can do that.
>>139255828
Shopping, cleaning, general helping around the house
I'm basically a house wife without the benefit of a comfy life
>>139255881
May as well get a job then.
>>139255865
Of course not I'm not that guy I'm a NEET. I live off my basic income from the government.
>>139255659
That's the only problem you had with what he wrote?
New thread
>>139256031
No dummy, you wait until the thread dies before making a new one.
>>139253214
You should be reading enough that using a J-J dictionary is insignificant in terms of your level of input desu
>>139255658
my friend works in a university computer lab and he essentially gets paid to just to hang out there. so he has his laptop and just shitposts while at work. there are lots of jobs which are mostly leisure, passively monitoring things, whatever.
>>139255996
yeah im prettty sure everything else was perfect
>>139253214
But don't obsess about it though. Going full monolingual when you know 1000 words and can't figure out the definition is completely retarded. Also, if you really wanna go the JALUP method, be sure to read all his articles on immersion/J-J, they're more important than his actual decks (which cost money).
When I become fluent in Japanese I will write a novel using only kunyomi
>>139256865
This doesn't even make sense.
>>139256902
Wow, way to crush that guy's hopes and dreams.
>>139256984
Better now than later.
