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5* Thighs Edition

Previous >>124765045

>[Fate/GUDAGUDA Honnouji event]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/quest_event_20151125.php
November 25 19:00 to December 11 13:59 JST
- Nobunaga is a free 4* event servant
- Ascension items are skulls from the shop (Check stock!)
- Milestone ladder awards extra Nobunaga copies:
http://pastebin.com/vx4ydHd4
- Use promo servants (see link) to gain more points
- The first Nobu copy you get is temporary, at 100k points it BECOMES PERMAMENT and keeps the exp you gave her
- Copies after that are for NP upgrade

>Farming guide
- 10 AP for pots
- 20 AP for bowls
- 30 AP for a mix
- 40 AP for spiders
- 30 AP on average gives 2k hp, 40 AP varies

>[Honnouji limited event gatcha]
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/summon.php#limited
- Rate up in the Event gatcha for:
- 5* Okita souji (will be gone after event)
- 4* Emiya
- 3* Medusa, Lancer cu and Mephistopheles
- 5* Gudaguda poster girl
- 4* Launch order!
- 3* Fate gudaguda order

>News and Reminders
- Latest changes
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/news.php
- Comptiq's interview with Higashide and Sakurai (about London)
http://pastebin.com/ipaXkpd2
- Regular Maintenance: Every Wed from 14:00 to 16:00 JST
See>>124686867 → →#for what servants you should level for next event.
- Skulls expire on December 31st so level nobu while you can

>Dropmaps
http://imgur.com/a/6nXq9

>FAQ - Frequently Asked Questions
http://pastebin.com/Hp918cqA

>Mega Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/HTrhq7Nk

>Data Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WI4dKGcwWjn5XpTgfLsK8c0cipRzrWbVpiLGeVr55Ks/htmlview?sle=true#
Toaster version:
http://pastebin.com/jtxyf37T

>Friendlist Spreadsheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1q7PleXm4aQWpc0-fvUhS-p9LMoept7nc5WtwkCUX0os

>Wiki
http://fate-go.cirnopedia.info/

>Max Ascension Lines
http://pastebin.com/zKbb2z2m
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When will maintenance end!?
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Who /NeverGettingThighs/ here?

I have 300 quartz saved + tickets but I'm already too jaded
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好!
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This is a test of mental fortitiude, /fgog/ are you willing to save your rolls for Jack/Byrn/Ishtar/Parasvat/Etc or will you succumb to thighs?
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>>124785207
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HAPPENING
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>>124785214
Exactly less than 26 mins

The shivering I am doing is making this feel longer than it should be, fucking winter
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260 quartz and 10 tickets. If I don't do it it's my final day.
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>>124785214
16:00 JST.
>>124785258
I only have 5-6 quartz. I can farm all my free quests and try a 10 roll of bullshit.
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Not sure if I should roll or save for the inevitable Christmas event
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>>124785209
Saving, already got Liz so I don't really have any need a gold lancer at the moment.
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I enhanced the image and discovered Deermud holding a veiny penis.
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>tfw you don't even have enough quartz to roll and are just staying up to see if they add more summon tickets for you
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>>124785191
Just wait for your favorite Lancer, or roll for your favorite Lancer when you can. And if you already have your favorite Lancer, and are just a bitch because you want it to be a gold, then you are scum.

>>124785209
Why would I succumb to a Lancer I care less for than my favorite Lancer which I already have? If I roll her in the 3 tickets I plan on using, she will literally gather dust. I probably won't use her.
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>>124785293
The maintenance will begin when it ends.
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>>124785338
Liz is garbo tho, even Cu is more usueful. Bitch does no damage.
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>>124785270
But I've been waiting for thighs.
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>>124785381
>wasting all your quartz for okita
Unless you got her, you have no-one but yourself to blame
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Reposting.
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>>124785357
Drillman isn't wearing any pants.
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>>124785338
You don't want to bully Deermud?
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>>124785357
So he is in the full knight of the NTR mode.
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>>124785381
You better join the chinks and burn some servers with rerolling.
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>>124785258
rolled 280 quartz and all the free summon tickets that were given at that time during for gilgamesh. Didn't even get a single 5*, CE or servant, nor an Atalanta or Lancelot. Got Sieg and Stheno though :^)

Needless to say I'm probably as jaded as you are
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>>124785451
I didn't want her, I wanted Drake

I got her but it took all of my quartz
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FACK LADS I ONLY HAVE 2 TICKETS AND 15 QUARTZ

FUCKING BANK SHUT DOWN MY CARD

REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>124785270
Roll a 40 imo
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When does the Oda event end in Burgertime?
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>was hoping to recouperate gems between now and after the christmas event
>suddenly scat hatch

It's not fair.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>124785471
Is he? I think that's a Gil-like skirt, not a loincloth.
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What is Scathach's NP anyway? An all enemy Gae Bolg?

I have 1 ticket to roll for her. What are my chances of getting her?
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I may save my gems (See: Buy more) when the christmas even starts.
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>>124785258
I saved 240 quartz and ten tickets for Tamamo when she came out and got her on my last ten roll. And I also rolled Jeanne and several 5* CE and 4* servants

Then I whaled 420 more quartz and rolled several Halloween Ilya CE, Rad Vlad, Arturia, and Orion, and didn't get another copy of Tamamo.
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Thank goodness there's nothing critical in the rate-up. I can keep saving up quartz for Babbage!
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>>124785451
>>124785554
>rolled for Okita
>acquired Drake

Fucking desire sensor.

>>124785648
less than zero
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Remember if you roll friendship of the tights even if you don't really want her then you only have yourself to blame when your favorite servant is released and you've no quartz left.
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>>124785648
0.5% at most.
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How do you buy Quartz packs in batches? Say I wanted to get 10* 9800y packs but only wanted one order number?
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>>124785559
>Financially incompetent enough to have your bank freeze your card.
Roll the gacha some more.
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>spend over a grand on barely getting okita to lvl3 np
>scath comes out
send help
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SINGLES OR 10s??????????????????
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>>124785752
>11k Attack
>Quick NP

into the trash it goes
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>>124785752
What the fuck is that background
is this the 80s?
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>>124785752
Shit ATK, wouldn't even single.
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>>124785752
>gay bulge np
Really?
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>>124785752
ORION
R
I
O
N
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>>124785764
i FUCKING MOVED TO CANADA AND MY UK CARD GOT LOCKED BECAUSE IVE BEEN USING IT HERE

I have to fucking call them REEEEEEEEEE
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I have a Drake I don't even want. I'd gladly trade Queen Elly for an Arturia if I could. But alas.
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>>124785752
ehhhhh
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>>124785752
What is her NP? Same as Cú?
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>>124785752
GAY BULGE ALTERNATIVE
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The drill guy is a Saber.
http://webview.fate-go.jp/webview/common/images/scathach/servant_details_02.png
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>>124785825
You expected something else?
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>>124785825
Did you honestly expect different?
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Man, I only needed 1 10-roll for Okita, wonder how will this go
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>>124785825
Gay bulge alternative.
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>>124785752
Whats the np name?
>>124785920
>6800 attack
Into the trash he goes
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>>124785920
THAT ATTACK

AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAA
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>>124785920
>3*
Fuck these devs
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>>124785920
>3*

btfo
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>>124785920
SIEGFRIED TIER
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>>124785920
>6877
Literal fucking trash
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>>124785920
>3*
Thank goodness. I was about to go insane if he was 4*.
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>>124785920
HAHAHAHAHAHA
THREE STAR CONFIRMED
GET FUCKED DEERFAGS
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>>124785752
Noise, Orion the lancer edition.
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>>124785920

Why is Kamina a servant?
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>>124785920
who the fuck is drill man?
>>124785970
b-but muh survivability
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>>124785920
>3*
>THAT ATK
Ai limão.

Also, what is the Drill Guy NP and name?
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>>124785920
>3*
Saber Gilles, Lancer version
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>>124785920
>3-star

I TOLD YOU FAGGOTS

YOU DIDN'T LISTEN TO ME
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DRILL FAG IS FERGUS
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well looks like iskandar will be event servant, seeing scatach come out first

also we will be never see 5* assasin
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>>124785920
>3*
Diarrheamudfags blown the FUCK out
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>>124785920
>6.8k attack

At first I thought "That seems awfully low" but then hes a 3-star
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>>124785920
>pleasure of being Gae Bolged inside
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>>124785920
>3 stars
>not even 7k attack
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>124785920
Scatfags won't get rused.
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>>124785920
>deer mud is a 3*
Ahahahahahahaahhaha
Makes sense thoug since diermuid is better as a saber so his saber version will probably be the 4-5*
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Oh, he's a 3* that's even worse.

>>124786067
They can still get rused by Liz.
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You guys must be mentally challenged to think he was going to be a 4* when brynhildr is coming and it's a 4*
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>>124785920
deerfag on suicide wach
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>>124786045
you're probably right after looking at the dril lagain it does look alot like the caladbolg
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Who is the fucking Drill Guy, translating the name of the NP would also help.
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Forget about Diarmund already

We have a new servant, guess his identity already. He's dressed too oddly to be Fionn or whatever.
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>>124785920
So the Servant that can win an HGW and defeat Arturia Saber is a filthy 3 star with 6800 atk.
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>>124785920
My sides, my fucking sides.
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>>124786151
Fergus.
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>>124785920
>>in terms of pure firepower, Diarmuid was stronger
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>>124786151
Fergus
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>>124786084
Translation fucking where?
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>>124785920
he'll be good if he had gae dearg, dispell buff like medea, best if he deal both of his spear to make double effect
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IT'S FERGUS

NP IS CALADBOLG
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>Sample quest that lets you demo Scathach
Oh boy.
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>>124785920
But does he get a skill where he just sudoku's
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>>124786127
I'm still hoping Bryn is the 5* lead of Valentine's, though. If she gets released in a rate up bundle she's definitely 4*, but if DW decide to make her the lead of Valentine's then she could easily be 5*
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Even the nips can't stop laughing at Diarmuid.
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>>124785920
>Equal to Saberface they said
>3*
DIARMUIDFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH.
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>>124786189
>>124786183
NP?-

>>124786202
Oh ok,
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>First 5* lancer
>She is shit

Atleast she makes me fucking diamond

also deermud 3* fucking kek
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>>124786151
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fergus_mac_R%C3%B3ich
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>>124786202
Any other details?
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>Shows gf who also plays this game a pic of the new gacha
>She is more hyped about TighTits Sensei than I am
RIP her quartz.
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>>124786202
Fergus is described as being of enormous size and sexual potency
the pleasure of being fergus'd
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>>124786202

Where's the Kamina glasses?
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>>124786258
Skills still unknown, she could still possibly just be a mediocre 5*.
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SOMEONE CAP THIS MADNESS
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Late for Euryale cutest sister!
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>>124786202
>Caladbolg isn't an actual fucking sword

I'm mad.
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Here I am wondering what kind of animation will they give Scathach with her dual spears

Or will they be lazy this time
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>>124786352
It is a sword, though. In fact, because it's closer to Ea in shape than other swords, it's actually MORE of a sword than any other sword.
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>>124786381
Well there's a quest where you can use her as support
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>>124786294
Make her roll for you.
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>>124786334
5 star servant who have instant kill effect is pretty good though, also it is better if it has higher death chane
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Tfw deer mud fags were saving quartz when they really should've been saving fp
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>everyone instantly concluding scat is shit based on nearly non-existent information

Good thing /fgog/ always makes the right judgement on first sight.
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>>124785920
Reminder
>>124717481
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>>124786246
>Bryn is a 5* gacha exclusive for the valentine's day
>4* Caster Kiyohime is the event reward
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>>124786352
Can't you see? That's a saber.
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>>124786352
European swords were blunt and meant for bludgeoning only. KATANA etc.
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>>124786395
How the hell is something like that supposed to cut the tops off of mountains?
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News page

http://webview.fate-go.jp/webview/news/20151209_ph5c59f7ykfuk27n.html?1449643500
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>>124786202
>caladbolg is a sword
>why would it be a drill
>emiya just modified it to look like that
btfo
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>>124786202
Is this the same guy that Diarmuid stole Grainne from?
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>>124786202
THERES NO WAY THATS CALADBOLG THEY SAID
ARCHER REMADE IT THEY SAID
GET FUCKED
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Even through Scat's attk is fairly low, you have to remember Drake has even less attk and HP but is still considered one of the better 5*s due to her skills and attack animations. We just have to wait and see.
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THE FUCKING STATE OF DEER MUD
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>>124786467
By smashing them of course
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>>124786247
Oh wow, he's on the same level with Hector and Proto Cu. Totally terribad.
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>2030年の欠片
>騎士の矜持
>魔猪
CE names. TL?
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>>124786470
>quick buff
>BBQQA
FUCK
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>>124786334
Her NP has a AoE stun effect, to my regret my moon is not good enough to see if she could also have an insta kill effect to go along with it.
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>>124786470
>aoe insta death
Oh jesus
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>>124786467
Smashing the mountain top off ain't that different from cutting it off.
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>Peaceman gives crit stars for 8 turns
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Will all the servants like Drake and Orion be on the gacha too?
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>>124786470
>8 crit stars per turn CE
Holy shit.
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>>124786467
By swinging it.

>>124786470
>She doesn't just have two spears, she has dozens

MY FUCKING DIIIIIIIICK
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>>124786447
i always hated how nasu jerked himself off over deer.
in celtic legend cu is litterally one of the strongest heroes probably only surpassed by his father Lugh the god of light.
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>>124786491
No, this is one of Cus enemies.
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>>124786504
>ARCHER REMADE IT THEY SAID

Have you compared them at all? Of course Archer remade his version.

There's a world of difference

The fact that Archer's version is called Caladbolg II, and its specifically noted that he warped it to make it into an arrow, is already proof that he warped it.
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>>124786470
>her skills are almost the same as okita
>dodge (protection from arrows)
>quick up
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>>124786470
>Piece: Receive 8 crit stars every turn
>Old guy: 40% crit damage up, 20% defense down
>Boar: Quick card up 15% for 3 turns
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>>124786515
>Lancer
Her attack is higher than Gilgamesh
>Lancer
She's shit because there are a lot of Saber type enemies and few Archer type enemies
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>>124786639
AKIRA?
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>>124786470
>that Twice CE

holy shit
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>>124786523
>>124786558
>>124786585
BUT

ARCHER'S CALADBOLG II WARPS SPACE

CALADBOLG IS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE A TRAIL OF RAINBOWS WHEN IT'S SWUNG

IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE SAME LIGHT AS THE KALEIDOSCOPE

MY HEADCANON

FUCK
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>>124786535
>Proto Cu
>Terribad
He is going to be better than Diarmuid by the virtue of stat curves and Protection of Arrows.
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>>124786470
UNLIMITED GAE BOLG WORKS
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>>124786591
Diarmund is Urobutchi's character dumbutt.

Its like complaining all the time about Nasu wanking Alexander or Lancelot.

Those are mostly just Urotbutchi.
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>>124786446
It's Nobunaga all over again. How shallow.
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>>124786605
>damage control
>the sword wouldnt be a spiral, that would be stupid
Assdevastated
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>>124785920
Is it Saber Lilly Tier?
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>>124786673
Holy shit
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>>124786585
He always cut the dicks of her enemies and makes them spearheads. That's why she has lots of spears
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>>124786639
>2030
Is he coming for our halloween liz candies?
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>>124786605
>he came to defend himself
see >>124786489
keep backpeddling
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Is she limited?
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Imagine a team with 3 maxed Twice CEs, 30(?) crit stars every turn without doing anything.
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>>124786786
I don't even care what it does it's going on my Robin Hood.
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>>124786470
>those skills
Literally okita again
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>>124786639
Wait
that style
is that AKIRA? I need this CE even more so
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>>124786446
Because one loud shitter makes the entirety of /fgog/ right? Go choke on cock mong.
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>>124786728
That's sarcasm.
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>>124786720
PART OF THE NAME FOR HIS NP SAYS RAINBOW DON'T LOSE HOPE
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>>124786756
No, Saber Lily is cute and came with 8 free quartz unlike this faggot.
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Less than 4 minutes to go

...I fully expect servers to crash though
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>>124786470
Twice? More like 8 fucking times
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>guaranteed stun on scathatchs NP
Holy shit
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>>124786470
So what are Diarmuid and Fergus' skills?
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IT'S UP
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>>124786881
>...I fully expect servers to crash though

Don't forget the tiers of thighsfags as they fail to roll her.
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>>124786850
Oh, nevermind then.
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>>124786901
fuck off
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I just realized something about the Diarmuid art, he and Cú are in the same place but in different positions..
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※スカサハは、スカサハピックアップ召喚期間終了後、ストーリー召喚には追加されません。

Scathatch, Fergus and Diarmuid are NOT GOING TO BE ADDED to the story gacha after the event.
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>>124785690
I rolled for Okita and got Arturia. I wanted to kill myself
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>>124786909
Elder God-killers-tiers?
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>>124786720
>CALADBOLG IS SUPPOSED TO LEAVE A TRAIL OF RAINBOWS WHEN IT'S SWUNG

>Attila's sword if rainbows too and also spins

Guess Caladbolg is truly a sword ancestor of sorts
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Who's ready for some Connecting... ?
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Server's up
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>>124786947
they said the same fucking thing about Drake
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>>124786909
>tiers

tears fuck
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>>124786947
It specifically says Scathach only
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Time to witness scatfags' despair when they fail to roll her.
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>>124786751
You're for some reason arguing that Archer's version isn't different than the original, even though we see that the original is some hulking sword now, and that its directly stated in the data book that Archer's version is warped form the original?

Its always been directly stated.

>Character Material - Weapons: Caladbolg II, p.128
>Caladbolg is the demonic sword wielded by the Irish hero Fergus mac Róich in Celtic mythology. The version that Archer projects has been altered to improve its function as an arrow.

He made it a lot sleeker and smaller, because there's no way Archer could lift that hulk blade we're seeing in the image there.

Archer's version is Caladbolg II, as stated in CM. Its not the same as the original anymore, its warped from a sword into an arrow. I didn't know this point was ever up for debate, but that's a fact.

I don't know what autistic fight you're trying to pick, but it sounds stupid.
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ITS UP
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>>124786470
>2030
>tfw DW memes you
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>>124786467
By warping spacetime to shear them off. That's what Caladbolg II does.
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>>124786978
Atilla's sword is also Charlemange's sword, which was ALSO supposed to do rainbows.
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>>124787029
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>>124786947
The fuck is this shit? Primate Murder? Gugalanna?
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>>124787117
The boar cu killed as a kid
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>>124787029
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>>124786947
hound of Culann?
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>>124787029
Who would want to roll this shit stats lancer okita anyway? Look at the art even. What the fuck is that background?
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It's up for real
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It's up now.
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Connecting
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>>124787147
What a waste of good design on a scrub.
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>>124787147
Wrong. Look at its mouth. See the spear?

That's the boar that killed Diarmuid.

At least I got SOMETHING right.
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we actually up now
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>>124787147
You mean the one Diarmund killed.

You can even see it munching Diarmund's spear in the image there.

Its the one he gave his life to kill.
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>In a battle.
Fuck.
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The biggest thing that I'm interested here is the idle pose of Scathatch in the image. Looks like something they'd use for Bryn if she doesn't get special animations, which is pretty cool
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FUCK THIS RATE UP BULLSHIT

FUCK
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;_;
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>>124786591
>>124786740
urobutchi really pulled a super hard wank claiming that cu who is basically the achillies of celtic mythos is weaker than dia who?

>>124787236
>died to a boar
kek
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>>124787316
kek
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>>124787046
>>124784779
>gets blown the fuck out
>tries to pretend he never was wrong
You must be just crying tears of impotent rage.
>inb4 t-t-thats not even me
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>>124787316
>Medeas
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>>124787316
>got a Servant with the rate-up
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>trial quest
what
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>>124787327
>claiming that cu who is basically the achillies of celtic mythos is weaker than dia who?

Read the interview in question some time instead of just bitching. Nasu says that due to the difference of masters, Diarmund is stronger in Japan.

In Ireland, Cu would be stronger even with a subpar master.

The reason Diar wins is due to Kayneth in the end, while Cu has Kotomine.
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>>124787317

YOU, I SHOULD BE HAPPY ABOUT GETTING 2 GOLDEN SERVANTS IN 4 ROLLS, BUT I'M MAD AS FUCK.
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>>124787357
It really isn't me. I agonized over my failure up here >>124786720.
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Time to get myself a Diarmuid.
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>Want to roll
>Cant buy quartz for now

Son of a bitch....
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>>124787029
I managed to get Attila and UNRIVALED, the 2 I wanted the most, and also Gil, the one I hate the most, and you think I can't get Scathach? Just watch, Kotomine.
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>Drill the earth for rainbow
10/10 better than thight NP
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>>124787450
siegfried is saving rolls, truly seigi no mikata
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http://pastebin.com/eMAFaCZm
http://pastebin.com/eMAFaCZm
http://pastebin.com/eMAFaCZm
Datamine up
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>Okay why not roll
>First ticket
>Suddenly rainbows

No fucking way.

>Gold lancer.

I won this game, DW.
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>6 Minutes and no Scat. roll
This is worrysome
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>>124787316
A SECOND ONE ARE YOU HORSESHITTING ME
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https://a.pomf.cat/qxrezl.mp4

Heres her NP
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Whats with this shit. I can burn 200 Quartz and not get a single Gold Servant. At least I got Diarmuid.
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>>124787046
>even though we see that the original is some hulking sword now
>he's trying to pass it off as a sword now top fucking kek

>You're for some reason arguing that Archer's version isn't different than the original

Yes, as in they would both be spirals you fucking retard.

Is this what you do when people start ignoring you when you post about lancelot, Jetfag?
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>>124787607
>7 million
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The Hakuno was worth it, r-right guys?
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>>124787580
Give skills. Scathatch might not be completely garbage
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>>124787431
>a literal who is on par with one the greatest of celtic heroes because of a master difference
ok
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>>124787595
Nigga.

Going to singles
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>>124787682
No.
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>>124787625
You should open a Gae Bar.
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>those animations
what the fuck
old launch servants are going to look so pathetic at this rate
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>>124787683
see >>124787553
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>>124787607
Who is the VA?
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>>124787607
the fuck, where's her UBW gae bolg like in the leaked image?
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I'll just roll the 3* servants with FP when they are added to the FP gatcha
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>>124787730
Mamiko Noto.
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>4rth quest reward is a gold ticket
Worth 20AP imho
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I GOT SCATHATCH
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>>124785920
How is someone who can beat Saber in neutral ground be this weak?
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>>124787738
That's her Buster. It even shows it in the other image.
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>>124787607
I thought Lancelot could beat Scathach, after watching that NP, now I see why no one could kill her. I hope she never gets summoned in a war.
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>>124787738
It's buster attack.
Her animations are so fucking insane the quality difference is going to be huge between old servants
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>>124787791
post pic
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>>124787738
are you retarded?

>burster card
>it must be her quick NP!!!!!
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>Lancer card
>Please be at least Deermoot
>It's HEKTOR
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