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This is the best single player FPS since Half-Life 2. >fast
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This is the best single player FPS since Half-Life 2.
>fast paced
>great fov
>minimal and non intrusive hud
>no reloading
>great variety of weapons and upgrades
>non linear level design
>good story with very little cutscenes
>well balanced platforming and action

neo/v/ can get triggered all it want, you don't have shit on this masterpiece.
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>>337791467
> masterpiece
Stop

Still a fun game
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small thing but I really like the warning sound that happens when you hit low health
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How much disk space I need to install this including all the steam shit I never used before?
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From what I've seen its quite slow, few enemies, visually bland and the music is crap.
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>>337792351
>music is crap
How about you fucking get mcfucking fucked?
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>>337792461
Can you point out a track that isn't? I've spent half an hour or so checking out various streams and I've found it crap. No stand out tracks. Just generic noisy shit.
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>>337792351
>From what I've seen
here we go. Trying to fit in what you think /v/ is all about aren't you?
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>>337792308
50 fucking gigs
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>>337791467
Its also the first Doom game that doesn't support Linux. Which means its also the first Doom game I won't buy. If its not on Linux, and the source code isn't opened after a few years the kind of long term support that the old games got will be impossible. Which means in order to run it ten years from now you'll have to track down an old system with an old version of Windows while Doom 3 will still be getting updates and will be playable on anything.
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>>337792539
well if you're that worried you can lower the music volume in-game and play your shitty art-house rock on the steam player while you fap to futa Cacodemon fanart while fantasizing about him tickling your prostate you giant faggot
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>>337792713
>Playing games
>On Linux
>>>/g/
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>>337792539
https://youtu.be/ZmVOn4Qf_7k How about you go fucking look yourself, bitch.
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>Half Life 2
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>>337792783
Linux is the future of high performance gaming.
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What's with all the fucking shilling?

There is nothing remarkable about it. It's crowning achievement is having no reload and no 2 gun limit in a time when everyone has those. But that's because the rest are shit, not because it's good.

Fear was better
Bulletstorm was better
SS3 was way more fun
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>>337791467
How is this game not cracked yet? Pretty embarrassing for the scene.
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>>337791467
>Half-Life 2
>good
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>>337791467
4/10 as a fanboy of old doom
9/10 as babby first fps, maybe you can get some taste
Mp gets a 1/10
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>>337793063
>look mum im being contrarian xD
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>>337791467
>walk into a room
>2 enemies spawn
>kill them
>then 3 enemies spawn
>kill them too
>then another 3 enemies spawn
>repeat

Just fucking come at me all at once you fucking pussies.
I'd rather go play brutal doom again with some custom WADs.
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>>337793198
You're probably also one of those fags who still think Half-Life 2 is the best shooter ever.
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SOULSFAGS GET OUT OF THIS THREAD! GET OUOOUOUOUOUOT! AAAAAAAAAA!!!
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>>337791467
>>fast paced
no it isn't
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>>337792891
How about posting results using some real game, like let's say Witcher 3.
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>>337793516
what? no, half-life 2 has aged like milk,
and half-life 1 has better gameplay and that's all that matters
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>>337793607
retard who only played the beta detected
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>>337791913

Might as well be. Lately FPS have been shit. You want another Call of duty? Funny how COD used to be associated with great shooters.

Doom is a god damn masterpiece. It's damn refreshing.

We also need a sequel to Call of Juarez Gunslinger.
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Just fuck off already with the payed shilling. I bought into the hype and this game isn't good at all. The mechanics feel outdated, aim down side doesn't even work

>muh fast pased

The only reason FPS used to be fast pased is because processors couldn't handle slower pace in rendering

This trash belong in a vault and thrown off a cliff. Everything about it just just dull. I'll admit though, the machine gun with the rockets is cool but that's not worth money.
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>>337792973
why are you so butthurt?
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>>337793721
You sound like a huge nostalgia faggot. HL1 does not have better fucking gameplay than 2.
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>>337793228
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>>337793771
>Lately FPS have been shit
serious sam and tno disagree.
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>>337793607
Stop trying to snipe with the assault rifle you massive faggot.
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>>337793593
that bait.
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>>337793773
10/10
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>>337792871
Soundtrack is truly great

I like this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U6b6Dj-_lE
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>>337791467

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH4uwzLU-qw

>7.1/10

ITS TRASH LMAO
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>>337793773
>The only reason FPS used to be fast pased is because processors couldn't handle slower pace in rendering

what the fuck are you saying?
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>>337793773
>aim down side doesn't even work
>processors couldn't handle slower pace in rendering
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>>337791467
But half-life 1 & 2 were both shit.

It's the best single player FPS since the new Wolfenstein.
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>>337792973
They're all the fucking same shit.

I just got the game because thematically it interested me.

Its come to the point where all videogames do the same shit that you just pick your poison.


>x did it better
>y did it better
Yes, but its not z is it?

Show me gameplay and music of x and y to convince me, and maybe I'll try it. But until then I think I'm content.
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>>337793924
What an overorchestrated mess.
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>>337793924
Hell yeah, Mick's fucking bass-heavy sound design and modulation is phenominal
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>>337793747
>>337793863
>https://youtu.be/wG5ef24MzHY?t=6m27s
that's fast paced. the new doom is nothing like that
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I started trying it ultra nightmare and that shit makes my fucking palms sweat like a motherfucker. Currently have a run saved at the start of the fourth level.

I think the game is really good, minimal plot, great action. Could use a bit less arenas, especially towards the end.
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>>337793953
>IGN
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>>337793804
most weapon sound like ass and are there just to spam, they where only 3 good weapons in the game, and 2 of them you get it in the middle. fuck off.
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Enemy design bothers me a bit. Are summoners supposed to be arch-viles? They look like some champions from ASSFAGGOTS game
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>>337794123
Yeah it sounds killer on my beats by Dr.Dreâ„¢.
Sick ass bass bro. Doom is best game ever.
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>>337791467

>neo v

Im pretty sure the people that never played quake and doom are the ones loving it. Game's full of bad design choices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuOObGjCA7Q
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>>337793924
This sounds like some kid jamming and trying to learn guitar.

BZZTZBZZZTTZBZBZZ
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>>337793924
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>>337793701
Witcher 3 hasn't been released for Linux yet. Supposedly they were waiting for Vulkan to be stable which only happened about a month and a half ago and it takes time to support new technology in a game engine. If future games are using Vulkan out of the box porting will become much faster and easier.

Witcher 2 runs pretty well on OpenGL though for a tool assisted port.
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>>337794228
Good. Now go play Serious Sam on Serious and see what real sweating feels like.
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>>337794395
When you actually play the game and you hear that heavy bass in the background it's better

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKuJx0mM68Q
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>>337794270
The physics alone made gameplay much better in HL2.
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>>337794291
>They look like some champions from ASSFAGGOTS game
because ASSFAGGOTS will shamelessly borrow elements from anywhere to make their 124535483th character.
yes they are but they summon shit in instead of reviving them. their summoning is really inconsistent. sometimes they summon 6 fucking hell knights at once, but most of the time they just fly around and shoot their shockwave.
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>>337793924
>fart guitars
Just like shitty genesis games.
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>74
lmao
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>>337792351
I disagree with all except the music but that's because I'm not huge into industrial. That being said, Mick Gordon is fucking amazing so watch your whore mouth.
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Why is it so orange?
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>>337792891
Right, but it's still irreleveant.
No one uses Linux because there is so little support for it when it comes to games and drivers.
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>>337791467
Did you just take the opposite of everything Doom4 is and say Doom4 is that?
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>>337794595
ragdolls and seesaw puzzles don't make a game better,
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>>337794521
I have beaten serious Sam on mental. The sweating comes from permanent death.
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>>337791467
I am on ultra violence and I can't beat the first big boss fuck. It is ok until we go to hell then he always kills me.
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>>337791467
I like it a lot so far, also pretty impressive what they did with the console releases. Obviously the PC version was going to be the best but it's still cool that they targeted 60fps on console and included the ability to disable chromeab, motion blur, and change the FOV. You never see that shit on consoles.
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>>337794738
Ragdolls literally make gameplay better. It's far more enjoyable to shoot enemies with physics.
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A MASTERPIECE
Truly a great FPS that totally caters to the old audience with glory finishers, wave based combat and fart guitar soundtrack
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>>337794687
The sad thing about the new Doom though is that it requires OpenGL 4.3 or Vulkan and Linux drivers for those are both available. This isn't a game that's being held back by needing a costly port from single-platform solutions to multi-platform code, its just being held back by Zenimax upper management.

There were far fewer than a million Linux gamers back when Doom 3 was released. How does it make sense to support the platform in its infancy but not now when its starting to come of age and Microsoft is shitting the bed?
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>>337794920
But they don't even react while they are alive so whats the fucking point.
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>>337794934
That's one doomed adventurer..
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>>337791467
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>>337794934
Wow they even used Skyrim-tier textures
That's dedicated memeing
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>>337794934
>It's not like how I wanted it to be so its shit

ok
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>>337794934
Why are you fags so assblasted about this simple easter egg?
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>>337794968
Because no one uses Linux. There is no market for it, so why bother?

It's simple business economics.
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>>337795040
What if anon wanted it to be good?
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>>337795205
Then his wish came true
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>>337791467
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9I1V_B7NZc
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>>337793773
bruh
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>>337794934

>fart guitar

You are a wordsmith
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>>337795196
Between .8 and 1.2% of a user base of 150 million is not 'no one'. Use of Linux as a gaming platform has been growing at about the same pace at Steam itself for the last few years and demographically Linux users are one of the prime markets for classic FPS games, one of the reasons why all Id and Epic both supported Linux back in the 90s. That's why I'll be playing the new UT instead of the new Doom.
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>>337791467
Brutal Doom >>> all
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>>337795461
>1% use Linux
1% is nothing as opposed to the 99%. And how many of those Linux users play video games?

As I said before, Linux as a gaming platform is still irrelevant.
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>>337795770
>As I said before, Linux as a gaming platform is still irrelevant.
Yep, even Mac is more relevant as a gaming platform than linux, and lol mac
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Masterpiece? no. However it's a step in the right direction. In the sea of generic as fuck FPS that we've had for the past 10 years this dared to be old school, or close to it and it did something other old school games like Serious Sam couldn't do: get the usual FPS fanbases to like it.
DOOM is being praised to hell and back in communities despite it being "different" and for that it deserves respect. It may not be the long awaited revival of DOOM some people wanted, but it's better than DOOM 3 and could very well be the starting point for the return of older style shooters.
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>>337795636
fuck off with your meme TC, edgelord.
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>>337793861
Seriously how many years has it been since the last Serious Sam. It's considered a retro shooter now
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>>337791467
WHY IS THIS GAME CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED? I WAS LED TO BELIEVE THIS GAME WOULD SUCK DONKEY BALLS AND THAT IT WON'T LIVE UP TO THE STANDARD ITS PREDECESSORS HAD SET. WHY IS /v/ FORMING A CIRCLEJERK AROUND THIS? MY BRAIN CANNOT COMPREHEND.
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>>337796127
Because it's fun. Anyone who says otherwise either hates good shooters or is still wearing his nostalgia goggles.
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>>337795770
You misunderstand, that is Linux gamers as that is from Steam. The number has fluctuated between .8% and 1.2% since it launched. In that Time Steam has grown from about 75 million users to 150 million users meaning that even by conservative estimates there are now more than a million strictly desktop Linux PC gamers. Those numbers do not include people who dual boot and play games on Windows, or who use a virtual machine for gaming, or who use Wine, or who use SteamOS (as big picture users are not included in the Steam survey currently).

For a game that already uses cross-platform solutions the cost of a port would be more than made up for by the size of the market.
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>>337793701
>walking simulator with last gen graphics and garbage gameplay
>real game.
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>>337795812
MacOS's problem is that its effectively abandonware much like desktop Windows. They would rather spend their money on mobile. The latest version of OS X only supports OpenGL 4.1, even the open source AMD drivers now support OpenGL 4.3 and could fully support 4.5 in a few months if the pace of development continues.

Long term Linux is the only valid option for PC gaming.
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>>337796127
>fast
>that chaingun and super shotgun
>demons fucking everywhere less than half way in
>gotta fuck some shit up

It's a breath of fresh air after all these safe as fuck FPS games.
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>>337792713

The days of open source Id games is probably long gone. I can't imagine Bethesda green lighting that and I'm not even sure modern day Id would care to do it anyway.
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What are some other good modern FPS? I've played Serious Sam 3 already
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>>337796127
the single player is genuinely good and fun to play. mp is very standard though.
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Does the difficulty in this game change anything else than numbers? Because the game is so short for a full priced AAA game I was thinking if I should play it first on hard then nightmare then ultra just to add some longerivity.
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>>337796302
>Still only 1%
>Implying every single one of those Linux gamers will purchase DOOM
So I ask again;
From a business perspective, why bother? We're not talking about some indie dev, but a AAA studio.
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>>337796478
>The latest version of OS X only supports OpenGL 4.1
Yeah, it's too bad they won't support Vulkan either because they'd rather push their own shitty API.
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>>337792973
Because shits fun faggot you run and shoot then punch a demon in the face there's no reason to ask for more
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>>337793773
>The mechanics feel outdated, aim down side doesn't even work
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>>337792973
I just finished SS3. It got really dull and boring after the halfway or so. They went overboard with the difficulty and just added retarded amounts of spawns so you ended up S+M1 in empty environments.
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>>337792351

>from what I've seen in actually a spastic and know nothing because I have not played the game

The game is actually great, I was very surprised. Best game of 2016 so far anyway
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BLUNDER OF THE YEAR
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>tfw best track finally got ripped

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUhCK1vleyY
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>>337796582
SS1&2 HD.
Painkiller but only the first one and the expansion.
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>>337796847
This means we all like it now, right?
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>>337796863
Sounds like something out of Painkiller
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>>337795049
Because they're faggots and they get ass blasted because it's skyrim which isn't up to their "refined taste"
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>>337793593

Who are these fuckinn psychopaths on metacritic who feel that it's their job to 'level out scores' what the fuck is wrong with them

If you wanted what this game is it's an easy 9/10

I can see how some kiddies are rating it lower, they probably expected scripted story shit and other cod bullshit

It's extremely faithful to doom and throws in some of quakes best elements too. If you liked the old games this game is perfect
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well Half-Life 2 was shit so now I now to avoid D44M
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>>337796847
I love all the 0's in the pc review
>game is too expensive!
>the plot sucks!
guess I'm gonna ask for a refund then
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>>337791467
I dropped HL2 after 3 hours, 'best since hl2' might as well mean 'garbage'
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>>337797053
>Caring what the masses think
>Jumping on the bandwagon
Sheep, anon, they're sheep.
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>>337793773
>The mechanics feel outdated, aim down side doesn't even work

So how's them console wars going? It must blow to be perpetually angry about something much better than standard fare that has its roots in old PC gaming, which obviously means you should hate it.
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>>337793924
>>337792871
>industrial metal
...URGH
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>>337793773
How did multiple people manage to fall for this
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>>337796847
>Playing the inferior console version
kek
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>>337792351
All wrong except for the music part. The levels have just as many enemies or more than Ultimate Doom levels. People seem to think that Plutonia map 32 is a typical doom map and if new doom doesn't have as many enemies as that then it's wrong. I don't know where this idea comes from.
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>>337792973
>Bulletstorm
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>>337794253
this was a correct review
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>>337797013
Not really desu. Painkiller was more focused and less messy random sounds everywhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sz-LD9S0-A
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>>337796847
I don't trust reviews.
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>>337797289
>I don't know where this idea comes from
Serious Sam Babies
Or just babies in general.
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>>337797314
What's wrong with Bulletstorm? I was about to play it for the first time
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>>337797286
pcuck version is even lower
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>>337792973
>still pretending to not like Doom
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>>337797334
you realize doom's soundtrack is dynamic so people are having to piece it together
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>>337797343
>using a controller in FPS
>not terrifying
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>>337793721
walk < run
any day of the week. HL2 shit on the first one.
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>>337793701
I doubt Witcher was developed in open gl in the first place so of course Dx influenced games will be trash. I'm sure doom 4 isn't open gl if they don't have a Linux/mac release like all the others
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>>337797101
>>337797163
Shit taste
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>>337797478
>being this casual

I bet you use save states too.
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>>337794521
Well yeah constantly running backwards is going to make you sweat unless you're crazy fit.
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>>337797343
I don't get it isn't that how it's always been?
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>>337797406
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>>337791467
Fuck off shill
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The only issue i had is the lack of manual saving.
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IMPORTANT QUESTION

Can your character look at himself in the mirror? Surely this next gen tech is implemented in neu Doom?
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>>337797603
Not in the year 2000, up until that point the only console with dual analog sticks was the Playstation
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>>337797401
The game is faux old skool. It's linear and modern, with all the flairs like scores, combo, and jokes to make it seems like something from the 90s.

Ironic that they made Duty Calls when the main game itself is barely step up from the average COD.
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>>337797406
>First person shooter
>120 fps
>M+KB
Stay mad
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>>337797401
it's a console shooter with console shooter's mechanics.

It does not hold a candle to Doom.
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Anyone on a GTX 780 having issues with framerate?

It's weird because I have a friend who's also pushing a GTX 780 and he's getting an almost constant 60 on Ultra with a couple settings turned down.

I tried clearing cache, it helped, a little, other than that I'm open to suggestion.
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>>337797439
It's ok but it's nowhere near the masterpiece or savior of fps people make it out to be.

It's probably the first game like that they've played in a while since stuff like SS, shadow warrior and Painkiller were too niche for them.
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>>337792973
>CoD clone in TPS with WE ARE NOT COD BECAUSE WE GIVE POINTS FOR DICK SHOTS XD is better than DOOM

Holy shit you have genuinely terrible taste in vidya.
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Fuck that cyberdemon boss was a bit underwhelming. I hope he gets harder on higher difficulties.
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>>337795035
You know, believe it or not there exist on this earth gamers who aren't shoving graphics cards up their asses day in and day out. Graphics quality isn't the be-all end-all of a game, and the new Doom's ability to look as good as it does and maintain a solid 60 frames per second while there are tons of actors onscreen makes it impressive in my book. It plays well, and if you weren't a faggot, you'd address that instead of
>muh graphics

P.S., before you start on the "lol ur a fanboy" train, I'm not under the impression that this game is perfect. There are definitely flaws, most of the guns could use a whole lot more punch and the level design gets pretty uninspired near the end with fucktons of arenas and all that, but it's still several miles out of the standard mainstream shooter's league.
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>>337797526
Right it was DX11. The tools that most companies use to port games to Linux currently works best with DX9->OpenGL 3.3, DX11->OpenGL 4.3 or Vulkan is less mature and provides less consistent results in terms of performance. CDPR is supposedly working on native Vulkan support themselves for an enhanced upgrade and port.
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>>337797401
It's a fun game that pride itself on what it isnt.
It's a corridor shooter through and through with really, really fun set pieces and weapons although there is a 4 weapon limit and you must bring your default assault rifle along so it is a 3 weap limit. Enemy variety is as poor as any modern shooter: melee guys and shotgun guys who rush you and rifle guys who hang back. sometimes there is a section filled with snipers and guys who hide behind cover.
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>>337793861
Shadow warrior is better than both
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>>337797538
Sorry I don't like shitty vehicle segments, terrible AI, loads of parts that exist to do nothing but show off the physics engine, and the shitty guns that sound like wet farts.

Half-Life 1 was way better.
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>>337791467

>Half-Life 2
>Good

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh/
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>>337797401
It's pretty fun. You can make some nice combos on enemies with weapons.

>>337797705
Original Doom maybe.
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>>337797401
>can't jump
into the trash it goes
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>>337794270
>Graphics don't matter but sound does.
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>>337797660
mirror works but your character model and guns models dont appear on it
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>>337797708
Shadows to High
Textures to High instead of Ultra. Ultra is for 4K I think and eats up tons of VRAM
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>>337793773
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>>337797763
Settings also exist, you shit eating shill.
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>>337797776
Would've been perfect if it wasn't for the same boss you have to fight 3 times and weapons other than crossbow and sword being kinda useless.
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>>337797885
I'm playing on high though already with the GTX 780 where I'm getting the mentioned issues.
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>>337797596
>constantly being attacked from all directions, testing your situational awareness and forcing you to dodge multiple attacks at once
>throws multiple enemy types at you at once, forcing you to constantly re-evaluate the situation, decide which enemy to target down and what weapon to use when
>tests aiming skills by having you shoot at moving targets with a projectile weapon, all while you are constantly moving to avoid damage
But no, all you do is hold s and shoot, right?
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>>337794497
Vulcan is still inherently longer to develop for than opengl because it's the the closest to machine you can get and your resources aren't spent converting code to machine language. That being said we're on the verge of getting rid of archaic platforms like Dx and open gl for more efficient ways as we see with Vulcan and metal so that's exciting
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>>337797763
anon, what happened in your life that gets you so triggered by the phrase "texture quality"?

were you bullied by a gang nvidia devs?
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Imo it's called Doom but it's more like an upgraded Quake 2.
Same kind of "go there press that button" plot, similar level design (less backtracking but still nonlinear).
It's more about tougher enemies with fixed attack patterns and not about their numbers.
And overall dynamics/movement is also similar to Quake 2.
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>>337797596
>not dodging froward behind enemy lines
>not rushing them with your double shotgun

Eventually you'll have nowhere to back down and then you're dead
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>>337797939
Then I can't help you. I'm getting 60-130 fps on a 290 with those settings and everything lse maxed out.
Update your drivers maybe. Both AMD and NVIDIA supplied them on release day.
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>>337796127
Its an okay game, problem is shills are here trying to hype it like it comes even close to the oldones. That or being more then just okay for maybe a playthrough.
Ignore the people trying to earn a paycheck and just go play brutal doom, better game for all of zero cents.
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>>337797972
Yes that is all you do. If you found the game difficult that's on you.
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>>337798231
I'm sorry you played on normal.
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>>337798231
>but hold s and shoot!!
Yeah you're thinking of Hard Reset
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so new DOOM is legit then?

are arena shooters back? has this game at least given the genre a second chance?
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>>337797873
Sounds about right, keep on shilling!
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>>337798145
Drivers are already the most recent, guess I'm just shit out of luck unless we get further driver optimizations or a patch happens to fix it.

Thanks for your responses either way.
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>>337791467
I wouldn't call the new Doom a "Masterpiece", but I like it nontheless. It's nice change of pace that breaks away from most other shooters, very gratuitous (in the good way) and an emphasis on having fun without trying to appear as anything other than what it is, which is an incredibly enjoyable power trip.

I also like the multiplayer. Fast paced, run-and-gun. If I had to draw a comparison, it'd be like if TF2 and Halo had a baby.
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>>337797558
Joke's on you I use a racing game steering wheel for my fps games because I'm not a shit-eating casual
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>>337796582
if you havent played it yet, play FEAR 1 and its expansions.
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>>337798429
Arena shooters are still really, really dead.
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>>337798349
Damn Hard Reset was so boring. You moved so damn slow out of linear sprint. Also every little fucking thing exploded and damaged you for a million but the explosions didn't even feel like explosions because they were so quite and weak.

Shadow warrior also had the exploding stuff problem to the point where I would just clear all the exploding stuff in an area before I spawn enemies. Luckily it felt fast and fun. I hope they won't fuck up SW2.
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>>337798429
>are arena shooters back?
it has always been there
the later arena shooters' sp mode will still be made with consoles in mind. so take that what you will.
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>>337797805
As someone who worked with source engine a lot, I can tell you that HL2 AI is not shit, but is never really used in it's full potential. It can think as a squad, hide behind small cover and so on, however some reason that code is never used in base game. And the only time AI uses any squad tactics is when you defend alyx in the segment where she gets captured.
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>>337796896
>>337798536
Thanks but I've played these already. I was thinking of 2010 onwards stuff?
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>>337798429
new doom is pretty legit but i dont see it bringing back arena shooters. arena shooters need to have strong multiplayer, which it definitely doesn't have. if it does well enough to get a sequel and gets enough attention for the right reasons, a sequel to Doom 4 could be incredible.
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>>337791467
>new Doom Marine is old Doom marine from 1&2
>After 2, he stayed in hell to continue to punch demons to death
>the demons became afraid of him. sent their biggest demon after him
>he punched it to death.
>they got so scared of him they locked him in a tomb, called him the ancient evil, begged on the coffin not to awake it
>drew a picture of why below the text
>its him punching hell
10/10
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>>337798710
Shadow warrior then.
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>>337793701

>Worst game on 1015
>Horrid combat system

Best games of course
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>>337798142
did you even play the game

this is the biggest problem here with it. yes it is fun to run towards enemies and shoot them with your shotty while sidestepping their attacks BUT IN THE LATEGAME THE GAME SENDS SO MANY ENEMIES YOU JUST HAVE TO BACKPEDAL AND SPAM INFINITE ROCKETS BECAUSE BOXES ARE BOTTOMLESS
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>>337798512
>steering wheel
>not using the controller for steel battalion

Sorry you're not casual, you're filthy normie levels of casual.
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>>337798782
But how did they even managed to lock him up if just punched them all to death?
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>>337798710
if youre looking for old school try out shadow warrior or rise of the triad. neither are amazing, but theyre decently fun classic styled fpses. the shadow warrior sequel coming is looking fantastic as well.
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>>337798892
I didn't have that problem. But I feel that might've been because I abused the FUCK out of the Gauss Cannon's Siege mod.
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>>337798937
they collapsed a temple on him
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>>337798892
You don't have infinite shit in SS1 and 2 which are better than 3.
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>>337798908
THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM
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>>337798710
Don't play Shadow Warrior, it wasn't bad but it was also not good.
Shadow Warrior 2 looks a lot better.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSw5bDe-Ak
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>>337798937
>demon leads him into an area
>no fucks given going to kill this demon
>in the middle of ripping it's spine from it's body
>other demons dog pile him out of nowhere
>use this .1 seconds lapse in judgement to seal him up
>it just made him MORE angry

Demons are dumb as fuck apparently.
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My combat experience so far:
Shoot thing until it glows
Press f
If ammo gets low, chainsaw thing
repeat

Feels weird to never having to give a shit about anything because enemies drop everything anyway.
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>>337798781
>arena shooters need to have strong multiplayer, which it definitely doesn't have.

whats wrong with DOOM's multiplayer?
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>>337798961
>rise of the triad
AVOID that one,it's super shit
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I like it, but multiplayer was clearly a mistake, they should have used the money to make some extra levels or something.
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>>337799059
>no pedals
>no eject button

Not impressed. Still casual.
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>>337791467
>too easy even on hardest difficulty
can easily go through out last 3 levels without dying once or even using bfg in your first try
>barebone narrative, and what there is is rushed and under developed, shich for a story thsi short is a criminal offence
>ending
enjoy your cliffhangers ;)
>runes that break the game with infinite ammo and other cheap bullshit, rich get richer im looking at you
>rune challenges are all a 60 second joke
>enemy arenas have too little enemies in them, they spawn 3 or 4 at most at once to a maximum of maybe 8 at end of game
>bosses are too easy and spawn no mobs
>platforming underused, some cool jumping around early that never evolves into anything by the end
>console quality graphics
>lack of huge open areas
>low environmental variety
>lack of non boss large hard enemies
>uninspired secrets
>no replay value
>snap map is a simplistic joke
>multiplayer is an unfinished mess of an afterthought

The game feels like a good first game that would make a great sequel, but we all know no sequel will ever come with ids 10 year dev times. I mena the mechanical design si here, but the lack of content and proper use of those design decisions makes it ultimately a forgettable game.

I can honestly say i will remember new Wolfenstain in 3 years, but i will have no fucking clue what was doom 4 about or ho it played.

New Wolf is a much better reboot.
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>>337799046
SS1 was fine to me too but SS2 I just dont know what the developers were smoking. SS3 felt like they tried too seriously to make the game "hard".
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>>337799096
2 weapon limit loadouts titanfall consumables halo
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>>337799249
Shit by SS2 I meant second encounter. I don't acknowledge SS2 existence.
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>>337798781
not even the golden arena shooters like quake have much of a community left playing on them. you just have to accept that people dont want that anymore.
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>>337799091
gets worse as you go on
i didnt even use chainsaw in last 4 or 5 levels since crates and huge ammo and armor piles lie before every arena
but the end i was drowing in health ammo and armor, leading to some hilariously badly designed fights in which i would finish end level areana fight without using bfg, chainsaw, most of my guns and without being hit once
just spamming my gauss gun while standing next to n ammo pile
after a fight i would realize there were those runes and bfg ammo packs everywhere i never used, like the fight was supposed to be 5x longer but my copy of the game came cut or soemthing

you can tell its a console game, they assume you will hit maybe once in 5 shoots
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>>337799494
What difficulty?
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>>337798429
>are arena shooters back?
No, the MP is complete garbage, it is literally just CoD with slightly more sci fi thrown in. Complete with loadouts. Only the SP part is decent.
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>>337799589
hardest one
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>>337793924
>tfw track that plays during the first hell level still hasn't been ripped
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>>337794173
fast paced = autism paced
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>>337799712
You can't play that until you've beaten the game though. Stop bullshitting.
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>>337799945
I can because I'm the best fucking player there's ever been
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>>337799995
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Does anyone else's Doom close itself randomly?
I've been playing it fine for two days but today it has closed itself for no reason.
No error or ''Doom.exe closed itself unexpectedly'' message either.
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>>337799945
hardest available one you retard not the unlockable ones, i dont care to replay the game
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>>337800169
its really buggy
been crashing and dropping frames on me all times
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>>337800379
Haven't had any framerate drops aside from one specific place in a level, but i'm in the third Hell level and it's already crashed twice.
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>>337800084
if the game was crackable you would try it and stfu.
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Singleplayer: 8/10
Multiplayer: 2/10

Combined score: 7/10
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>>337793924
oh my fug, that makes me want to rip and tear.
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>>337799220
>DOOM
>Narrative

If you're playing a Doom game looking for a meaningful story, you're barking up the wrong tree. It's a series principally about a guy who's so strong the demons of hell were so scared of him they collapsed a temple on top of him just to put him to sleep.
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>>337794823
There's only three more missions after that, and only one more boss.
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>>337801059
>It's a series principally about a guy who's so strong the demons of hell were so scared of him they collapsed a temple on top of him just to put him to sleep.
>Look what I learned from the newest one mom ^^
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>>337800507
meh
for me
single 7/10
multi 6/10
snapmap 4/10

people give the multi shit but its at lest above average even if still nothing good
snap map is just a waste of time, the tools might be good but the limitations of small number asset and option of what you cna do make the whole this pointless
the game is hard to rate, its not especially good, but its not bad, somewhre between 6 and 8 i guess, it really varies, in short burst uits good but the repetitive nature of level and enemy design makes it a hard game to enjoy for longer
its play once and forget type of experience
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>>337796847
>Taking Metacritic seriously
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>>337800169
Happened to me twice in about fifteen hours. I can live with that honestly.
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>>337801149
there are 3 bosses in total
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>>337801169
Way to miss the point, you autist. It's so incredibly ridiculous it shoots any attempt at dramatic stakes in the foot.
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Did they reused the exact same model from Doom 3 hell knight, because it looks exactly the same, it even looks out of place because of that.
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>>337793924
>There are people that didn't switch the covers
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>>337801314
Shit. I'm on mission 11 and thought the Cyberdemon was one of only two.
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Glory kills and the terrible chainsaw ruin the pacing and flow of the game. A shame, but it's a 6/10 at best when it could have been a 8/10 otherwise.
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>>337801169
The first game was about a guy who was so strong the demons just let him out of hell because they were fucking done dealing with him. New Dooms story isn't all that much different.
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>>337798123
i think this is the most damning thing you can possibly say about the new doom
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>>337801345

It's not the exact same as the doom 4 hell knight is a bit smaller and has smoother details and on top of that it's eyeless unlike the doom 3 hell knight who has a pair of small black eyes
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>>337801059
>It's a series principally about a guy who's so strong the demons of hell were so scared of him they collapsed a temple on top of him just to put him to sleep.
The irony of you describing the series by the newest entry while trying to teach me whats it about blows my fucking mind.

Regardless, the story is already in the game, so no reason to not make it great.
The chick should get more exposition monologues, dosnt need to stop you in your tracks, she could just talk over some intercom while you walk around. Also game starting at start of the invasion not after it would allow her to show up somewhere in the background more and allow you to see the results of her actions.
And while during the gamepaly cinematics are a bich of intrusion, after the agem ens no reason they couldnt have a 10 minute long autro and epilogue to warp everything up instead leaving everything open.

Fcuking 30 second cinematic of a talking heads is not what i would call a satisfactionary ending to any game, even one with no story.
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>>337801402
Man the imps look so fucking terrible.
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where the FUCK is the lever for the classic level in the argent facility?

The worst part is I know I've walked past it while looking right at it already

why are these levers so hard to see
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>>337798123
i thought it felt more quake-y than doomlike as well.
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>>337797343
That review is right. FPS controls on Controllers are truly terrifying. Always were and always will be.
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>>337801540
I'm gonna go ahead and refer you to
>>337801324

In case you missed the point, my explanation was not to inform you about the story, it was meant to showcase that DOOM's "narrative" is so incredibly ludicrous that trying to make a meaningful story about it (or at least a meaningful story that centers around the Doom Marine) is virtually impossible.
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>>337793773
here's your (You)
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>>337791467
sales must be abyssmal with all the shilling that is taking place, but that's what you get when you won't let pirates shill the game for you for free
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>>337801713
Meaningful story != good narrative.

Kill yourself, kid.
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>>337801713
They weren't try to make a meaningful story. Or do you think that campy sand paper demon voice was actually meant to be serious?
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>>337791467
>no reloading
I like reloading. What makes its absence in this game a positive point?
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>>337801827
No, I don't think that Id was trying to make a serious story out of Doom. Its designs are pulled straight out of an angsty teenager's margin doodles and I love that it revels in that fact, but I hate that people try to call it out for not having a good story when story was never the point.
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>>337802027
Well okay then. I'll just go back to doing whatever it was I was doing.
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>>337802027
>but I hate that people try to call it out for not having a good story

You still don't get the point. Holy shit you're dense.
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>>337801713
>In case you missed the point, my explanation was not to inform you about the story, it was meant to showcase that DOOM's "narrative" is so incredibly ludicrous that trying to make a meaningful story about it (or at least a meaningful story that centers around the Doom Marine) is virtually impossible.
Tell that to Wolfenstein New Order.

An emotional story about fucking future nazis on the moon and magical jew technology full of dry dark humor at every step. Yet still menages to pull those heart strings and give a satisfactions ending and wrap up well.
Sure it had more of a story focus, but it proves that with a bit of effort you can work with anything.
Tekla a story side character in it that has 2 short interaction scenes menages to leave more of an impression that the villain in doom you spend chasing the entire fucking game that gets like fucking 30 hologram talking moments that are wasted on shit all.
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