>he uses spear
Gomenasai, /v/!
I don't hear any YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO in the menu.
>he uses axe
>>336120520
what is it you're sorry for?
Your spiritfu?
http://www.strawpoll.me/10098905
http://www.strawpoll.me/10098905
Katana is best. All the stances are useful and it is fast.
>the only good game we got this year so far is a fucking alpha demo
the fuck happened to this industry
>>336120594
You can hear one in game if you do a bare handed parry.
>>336120667
>use high stance
>attack, finish with triangle
>I should hit him with the roll but I deal no damage
Spears need to be nerfed in the full game. If they have to change anything, this is it. No more do you need to be mindful of your surroundings, and be careful that you don't get overwhelmed.
>oh shit I pulled 4 ninjas at once by accident
>SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE SQUARE
>lol easy game
This shit needs to stop
>look up nioh on google
>/v/ is one of the top links for nioh discussion
do any other websites like this game? seems like neofag and gamefags both hate it.
>>336120667
God why have you not killed youself yet. Fuck off.
>>336120770
Shut up mid stance cakeboi
>>336120843
no, all other sites mostly hates it for the difficulty
>>336120762
Spacing is important, I guess.
>>336120667
>takes 1000 folded attacks to kill a guy that dies in a hit by any axe
at least spears are stylish with their combos, katanas are gay and retarded
>>336120979
High stance Katana does pretty significant damage while not being glacier slow like axes. Plus every katana stance is useful meaning you get way more utility. Also, dem parries.
>>336120921
That's the thing, mid stance spear is broken and trivializes the game, but the other stances are just outright inferior to your other options. high stance spear is not nearly as fun or effective as high stance sword/axe. i wont even mention low stance. Spear is the worst weapon and I hope something is done about it.
>all these weebs talking about which weapon is the best and im here throwing fire shurikens and poison at people
>huge Souls fan all the way from DeS
>finished DkS3
>can't for the life of me start ng+
>alpha Nioh is miles better than Soulsborne in terms of gameplay
Don't get me wrong shitposting about Souls, the atmosphere doesn't put a scratch to Nioh but I feel it's a genius to let Team Ninja do a Souls-like game, just like Platinum doing Nier.
>S-S-S-Stylish! tier
high spear
>folded 1000 times tier
high katana
low axe
mid spear
>gomenasai tier
mid axe
mid katana
low spear
high axe
>gas all weebs tier
low katana
hammers and axes fall under the same category right
>>336120718
No you don't.
Will we not be able to access the demo at all after the 5th?
>>336121523
mid axe and mid katana are way more fun to use than straight swo...mid spear
>>336121138
That was her original plan, but as they traveled together they began to actually fall in love for real and realise how important to each other they were.
>>336121274
But high stance spear has the leg sweep or spin which are both useful as hell and huge damage from the stabs, while low stance has quick moves, big sweeping triangles, the flip and the backstep attack from guard which are all great.
>>336121615
Yeah, same with katanas/tachis and spears/cross spears. The difference is that they scale differently with stats.
>>336121765
lame
>>336120651
I chose Raiken because I've always been a lightning-fag (the element, not the character). And out of all the mythological creatures, Raiken is the only one I was familiar with, assuming Raiken is supposed to be Raiju. For some reason, TN seemed to have slightly changed all the names for the creatures.
>>336120924
But it's not that hard. I'd consider myself a filthy casual and this game seems perfectly fair to me.
>>336121308
>exploding shuriken
Gee these might be alright, good for setting things on fire I guess.
>it only takes two to kill a statue, you can hold up to 12
Holy shit I am death incarnate
>>336121449
I feel the same my nigger.
>>336121765
This is worse than nazi germany. I want to play the demo some more, why does it have to be removed?
>see little cyclops oni
>that lil faggot tongue attack me
>chase that lil shit
>tongue me again
>small cyclops oni suddenly became BIG CYCLOPS ONI
>it regen all its health
welp...
>>336121728
Togame herself admitted that her desire for revenge and scheming was stronger than her love for him. unless you're one of those people who think she lied for some reason even though it undermines her whole character and a big part of the show
>>336122173
Only the strong and fast are allowed to obtain the Mark of the Conqueror, anon.
>going through the whole demo high stance axe and just using (Square, Square, Trangle) and (Triangle x1)
Fucking stop me
>tfw finally getting the hang of Nue's pattern
>tfw making progress on him
>watching his health drop
>tfw you realize that you've got him and it's just a matter of time before you get that good run and beat him
>That moment where you're feeling that magic happen
>Everything lining up
>Stunning the shit out of him without even using the cheese method
>Dodging the lightning
>Getting that good mixture of dodges and blocks
>Landing that final strike
>Watching him explode into loot
Oh my god this is gonna be a day 1 buy for me. It's been a while since I've gotten this kind of endorphin burst from a game
>>336122281
She could also have been lying so that Shichika would be able to get past her death and not go on a suicide mission.
>>336122343
that or many hours of dying and trail and error to figure out what actually works
>>336122343
I got the mark already. I've already done two playthroughs. I want to play more.
>>336121201
>glacier slow like axes
learn to zone
And low stance katanas do garbage damage, they're only situationally useful.
>>336122220
I found firing your bow without aiming to be extremely useful against them, just lock on and Press R2. Instant stagger, then you can just low-stance them to death.
>>336122281
Of course she'd lie in an attempt to protect Shichika's feelings and deny her own when she's about to die, far from undermining her character that stays true to it and shows how she's developed over the journey because she's using her lies to protect Shichika instead.
I pretty much only leveld heart, stamina, dex and spirit.
>>336122472
Did my 4th playthrough this morning before doing some jolly co-op. I've never woken up and wanted nothing more than to play an alpha demo before.
>>336122381
yea, that's how I beat the demo originally and it was no fun. plus, once the game comes out and PvP becomes a thing, you're going to regret not learning how to properly use the high stance spear.
>>336122474
>low stance katanas do garbage damage
Hitting your opponent is only half the battle, you should know that since you're bringing up spacing. Besides they hit like sanic, meaning you get way more chances to hit and are great for status.
>>336121934
>statue
Could they be any less fun to fight?
>>336122573
I got 12 points in Spirit for Sharkbro's lifegain passive and then put everything into Heart except for the one point in Body for Veteran armour set. Proably will play my first character like that in the full game but I am interested in magic as well; that stam regen spell card is amazing.
>>336120358
That's not Kencichi thats Rawhide Kobiyashi
>>336122573
I leveled with the intention to try out everything and still did good damage. No real sense in trying to focus on a specific build when it's a demo.
>>336122546
It doesn't protect shichika at all. He was going to go on a rampage either way and Togame knew it. She just reflected on what she did for her whole life when she was on the brink of death. It's also a way to spell it out for the viewers who might not get what Togame is really about, even though there were many hints of it
>>336122743
Statues are fun, just kick them. It takes like two kicks and their ki gauge is already empty and you can cut them up forever.
>shark triangle
UNF
Is there a level range on who you can summon?
>>336122917
She might have thought he would have but she still tried to in the end because of how much she's grown to care about him. If she was truly that deceitful and didn't care about him why wouldn't she say the opposite and use her death to fuel his rage even more so she can be sure her revenge will be fulfilled?
>>336122381
I was like you halfway till I figured out that Heart boosts your Katana damage, & rng Gods blessed me with this Katana.
>I use Katana
>High Stance Only Motherfucker
Am I cool?
Also is there a chest and torso for the Unusual armor?
I got the Mask and Arms/Legs from the first shrine in Level 2.
I wish I could beat Nue before the demo dies but I have work all week.
This game is GOAT.
hey check these videos out
>2005 trailer for the PS3 version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j14e9zTnVbk
>2015 PSX trailer,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH5UG7AMhOY
This trailer shows the levels we have in the demo extensively (as well as two other it seems), but the second level is missing the rain. Also, I would just like to point this out, but I feel like this game is going to lack in diverse enemies. The second level reuses a lot of the first's enemies. This trailer doesn't show off any new enemies unless I'm missing something.
Also I remember a while ago watching an interview for this game, I'm pretty sure it was TGS. Can't seem to find anything of the sorts though.
>>336123314
>restricting to only 1 stance
>not switching stances during battle getting free Ki plus looking flashy as fuck
pleb
>>336123196
It's true that she could have been even worse with shichika if she wanted to, but that doesn't make what she said about her need for scheming untrue. She was dying, and realized at the last moment that her revenge was ultimately meaningless. Had she not died, though, she probably would have stuck with it to the end.
stance switching is the most stylish way of dealing with a group of enemies.
someone should record themselves taking on six guys at once switching stances between each kill. It seems like, for the katana's case at least, low stance is the best for spears, and high stance is the best for axes.
>>336123050
You will always be mad because I will always be calm.
We learned from each other, you and I.
I learned the ways of the deceitful. You learned that not everything is controllable.
Anyone can throw money and influence around.
How about dodging attempts at breaking your mind by the highest denominator in existence?
Aristocracy, I wish I never knew ye.
>>336123245
>400
NIGGA WHAT
>>336123503
Yeah if she had survived they would have continued the plan but afterwards? She couldn't part with Shichika even if she wanted to because of how they both felt and that's why her revenge really is meaningless, so it very likely would have ended the way the series actually did, except with Togame in Hitei's place. Like how it should be.
>>336123245
>999/999 Familiarity
Nigga how?
So i finished the demo and got the mark of the conqueror. Then I sold my PS4 because I'm moving overseas. Can I get it back later? I don't see it in my download list.
>>336123985
>So i finished the demo and got the mark of the conqueror.
You only beat the first level bro.
>>336124054
Is there another reward for clearing the 2nd level?
>>336124105
More game.
>>336124105
Yeah you unlockfun and satisfaction
>>336123985
>I'm moving overseas so I sold my ps4
>I want it back later
>>336123910
But she wouldn't need shichika around anymore once her revenge was fulfullied. Hell she even mentions it, that shichika could become more of a hindrance than anything. it's not like her plan was actually to do all this just to end up travelling the world with him afterwards. She would've gotten caught up in another power struggle for sure
>>336123919
I think familiarity is bugged so that if it's at anything less than max it shows as 0. I've got some stuff I've had for ages and some of it is at 999 and some is at 0
>>336124193
Gotta have all the cash I can get to uproot and resettle elsewhere.Also my business needs as much cash as possible.
>>336123245
>400 damage
>999 familiarity
TN is that u
Guys I actually need your help, you all seem to be having fun so surely the game isn't as broken as I think it is. The first boss has tells but running seems to get me hit, rolling gets me hit, and guarding breaks all my stamina, it's incosistent how much damage he does sometimes doing about half and sometime OHKOing me, and it feel like there's no reliable way to avoid his attacks.
Am I just too reliant on iframes from Dark Souls?
>>336123791
Heart nigga, heart.
>>336123919
It could be bugged, all I did was sell all equipment I see so I don't run out of whetstones & glues. Don't think we're 100% sure how it works.
I actually just realized it's maxed. Just keep using Katana all the time or keep switching stances in the middle of a fight. Maybe it could work.
>>336124336
Use the same tactic. Dash right or left and do hit and run attacks; dash in, hit once or twice, dash out, wait for stamina to recover.
>>336124336
I use the same timings I would use in DaS and never have trouble.
A lot of the time I'll dodge into him, or dodge sideways while strafing to circle to his backside so I can wail on him when he wiffs an attack.
Blocking should not be breaking your stamina; make sure you understand and use Ki Pulse, which is essentially Active Reload for your Stamina gauge,
My skills say that my katana uses a sword-ki when I attack an enemy after a combo with triangle but all it does it a kick.
What gives?
>>336124336
Yes, there is little to no iframes in this game, you physical have to move out of the way of attacks.
Stick to his side/back, other than his grab, all of his close range attacks either do little damage or have easy tells.
>>336124336
Dodge the slams, block the first spin, then back pedal out of his range.
Regular dodge seem to lack iframes so keep that in mind. burst dodges do have iframes though.
>>336124203
She didn't have any other plan outside of get revenge since she was so focused on it. She spoke about travelling the world before as something she wanted to do to get away from everything else but also since it was the only thing she could come up with. And how could Shichika become a hindrance to her doing anything related to warfare? As an asset he's one of the strongest warriors in the country who would be loyal to her until his death and long after hers, as shown by him living her dream. That's just more proof that she was trying to hide her feelings.
>>336124502
Sword ki is for low stance
You must be in middle stance when you're trying this, which only does kick
Don't forget, the combos and finishers are very heavily dependent on which stance you're in
>>336124502
you have to swap the kick skill out
go skill customisation and swap the triangle skill around
>>336124336
Standard rolling has much less iframes than rolling after you attack, and his chains do far less damage and take less ki to block than the iron balls, which are unblockable. You should be able to dodge his overhead slams, just stay close and dodge earlier if you feel you have to. Also his spin move is better blocked than dodged I think, just make sure you stay close.
>>336124710
>>336124691
Ahh, what the fuck.
I played through all two stages without ever taking a look at that menu.
How do I always ram my mighty katana in an enemy that is lying on the ground? It feels so random.
>>336124691
Sword Ki can be set to all stances actually, while Kick can be set to mid or low stance.
>>336124857
Walk up to it and hit triangle
>>336124910
>>336124926
Sometimes I still make the foward slash.
>>336123183
It's fucking party time then
Time to take Raikiri and split some yoki skulls
Would it be good to just focus on one weapon if I want to use more than one stance? Generally when I use two weapons I only use one stance for each of them because there's not that many skill points to go around
>>336120667
Plus it scales the most with Heart so if you go full heart you can have 200+ Ki and ~450 damage at lvl 40-45.
>>336124683
WTF? A Ni-Oh thread that's somehow talking about Katanagatari? Fuck I loved that series (books were alright, anime was amazing).
Togame was a bit of a mystery till the end imo, but I've always read it as the fact that her eye changes when she tells him she was using him and planned to kill him as proof that she was lying. Her eye's only change when she's scheming, or when she's being decietful.
She was trying to make Shichika throw away his love for her, so he would live for himself and not seek revenge.
It didn't work ultimately, but hey, we got an awesome as fuck battle out of it. And the death of Emonzaimon, who I didn't like all that much to begin with. Fuckyes.
>>336124683
It's implied she was caught up in many schemes previously, like her rivalry with Hitei. There would be no reason to get rid of shichika as long as she needed to actually use force to get what she wants but it's kind of hard to say what she would have needed, depending on her goal
>>336120358
>not using the best weapon of its time
>>336120606
What if it says NIOOOOOOH
>>336124336
Here's the first boss moveset.
>PHASE 1
Double Chainball smash - unblockable, dodge to the side for 1-2 free hits
Left/Right hand chainball smash - blockable, but easy to evade by simply be near him and walk one step left if he attacks left or vice versa then hit it once. Will follow up with either alternate hand or...
Spinning attack - Will spin twice, 2nd spin is unblockable if you block the 1st spin. Best to block the first spin then dodge back.There will be a small window to get a free hit.
Stunned counterattack - If you break its face it'll be stunned for about 3 seconds then swipe at you if you get too greedy. Can be blocked.
Back swipe - usually happens when you're behind him, may get hit by the balls when trying to dodge. Blockable.
>PHASE 2
Ball throw - just dodge
Jumping Smash - unblockable, dodge out of the way. Will create a field that slows ki recovery.
Left/Right hand smash - Blockable. I swear to god this attack has some fucking bs homing when I try to dodge to the sides, best to dodge back or block.
Body smash - unblockable. Get the fuck outta the way
Combo attack - finally hit ends with a body smash which is unblockable. If you see both hands glow run/dodge the fuck away until the combo finish.
Grab - Unblockable for obvious reasons. Will start with both hands glowing black and attempt to grab, take a bite at you then throw you to the ground for massive damage, dodge the fuck away.
>>336124857
stand near then, stand still, then tap triangle
>>336125019
Yes, less wasted stats, plus your skill unlocks tend to be weapon and stance specific
>>336125164
Emonzaemon did nothing wrong
>>336125019
You can if you want to, but keep in mind it's a demo and the actual move skills are the cheapest to learn. You'll get a ton of skill points as you level up so don't worry too much about trying to get damage or whatever, it'd probably be more fun learning to use all the different stances with weapons.
>>336125280
He and his girl had the sexiest voices.
>>336125280
He fucked up the Maniwani, and he killed Penguin. I didn't hate him, I could understand his motives after what happened between him and Phoenix, but I didn't like him.
Plus, killing Togame == Doing something wrong.
>>336125414
http://exhentai.org/g/340341/b2ef31f294/
Pic related to above
>>336125497
He's just doing it out of love for Hitei. Shichika killed a lot more people than he did.
Do I have to wait at the shrine for someone to come or do they randomly join as soon as I offer that crap?
>>336125164
I didn't even think about the eye, it's been a while since I watched the series, thanks for the backup with proving best girl. Boss rush was hype as fuck and Emonzaemon was ok except for that one act.
>>336125218
More reason for her to want to get away from such things by travelling the world. She enjoyed the trip with Shichika too and she'd at the very least need some defence no matter what she decides to do. Also, loooooove.
>>336125646
Did he? How many people did Shichika actually kill by that stage in the series? Probably not more than 10 or so.
>>336120651
shark is best but you kind of have to equip the dog for Nue otherwise his lightning will one-shot you.
>>336125785
Well we never see how many people Emonzaemon actually killed, but he kills a lot less people on the show. Shichika would probably kill a lot more if Togame asked him to as well, it's the same principle.
>>336125646
Emonzaemon's been serving Hitei as a ninja for who knows how long. Shichika hadn't even left his island or fought someone outside his family before the series begins, and if I remember right he doesn't even kill all of the sword wielders throughout the series.
Katanagatari video game adaptation with Ninja Gaiden style action gameplay and Souls style exploration
Don't tell me this wouldn't be the perfect game
Katanagatari is one of the best anime of all time.
>>336125860
Or just don't get hit by lightning
>>336125860
or you can just drag him into the corner near the gate, he can't use his lightning there.
>>336126019
>fast paced combat with awesome combos and parries
>totally unique bosses each with different mechanics and strategies you have to figure out before fighting them
>cute girls
Only question is why it hasn't happened already.
So, some of the dead guys often have different colored equipment. Do I have to get a chance at getting it when defeating them?
>>336124989
I think it doesn't work if the enemy is getting up, so you have to do it while he's prone.
>>336126550
Yes
>>336126796
Isn't that stupid?
>someone finds the most powerful equipment
>just keeps dying all over the place so people can grind his corpse
PSA you can get the best spear in the game, the tombo-kiri or whatever, before killing Nue twice. It's actually on top of the roof of a house before the Nue fight
>>336126861
I think it scales a bit to your level. I saw someone get a Raikiri in the first level but it only had 250ish attack or something. Although he could have just had a crappy one.
>>336127002
>I saw someone get a Raikiri in the first level but it only had 250ish attack or something
How do you know? Can you inspect players?
>>336127101
No I mean like I saw him kill the guy and he dropped a Raikiri.
>>336127002
>>336127101
>>336127219
I think Kou Shibusawa's revenant drops a crappier one in the first level.
>>336127101
>>336127002
>336127002
Correct me if I'm wrong fellas, but I'm also pretty sure revenants are randomized, on a timer and don't respawn.
So grinding someone's Revenant would be a slim deal
I'm worried that the final game will just have level 100 revenants with the best possible equipment dying all over the place in the first level just so you can get super OP equipment right off the bat
>>336127568
You think you'd stand a chance?
>>336127323
Nah it was someone on the beach
>>336127548
Yep they don't respawn and it'll probably be harder to get them to drop rarer equipment so it might work out fine in the end. It's not like early characters could use half the stuff anyway, they might make the weapons much weaker if you don't have the stats for them.
>>336127669
Yeah. It would take a while to whittle them down though.
>>336127568
>>336127568
Anona they're literally probably be doing like 160k damage in one swipe.
You wouldn't be able to farm a fucking lvl 100 Revenant at lvl 1.
>>336125253
This is pretty much the strategy I used. It definitely works.
>>336127730
>>336127730
That's exactly how it works.
Sub-Par states reduces shit to like 30% effectiveness.
I've seen swords and spears just 150pts of damage beyond what they were at as soon as I met the Stat Requirement.
>>336124502
Don't underestimate that kick skill though, it's really useful for making the enemies run out of stamina so that you can grapple them.
>>336127789
You could, if you don't get hit.
>>336127568
They might do some kind of scaling, so you can only see bloodstains of players within X levels of your character or something
>>336127872
Yeah I meant like they could make that scale further with stats so that if you're too low it would be 10% or something. There might be some form of level scaling too, they'd have it for coop so they could have it for revenants too.
>>336127964
>>336127964
Yeah no.
If someone bothered grinding to lvl 100, they would have like sub 30 Encumberance and enough stamina to turn into goddamn Raiden himself.
You'd be fucked, quit with your goal-post moving faggot.
They'll probably implement a Revenant level limitation.
At Soul Level 27 I wasn't' getting any revenants higher then around lvl 35.
>>336128210
>goal-posting moving
stop using words you don't understand. Also why are you so angry? revenants are piss easy and it's perfectly possible to not get hit against them
>>336123417
How do you gain ki back from stance switching? I just started. Will the game tutorial tell me or is it something you have to figure out?
>>336128374
Are you taking about Ki Burst?
After a combo, when the ki cloud is swirling around you for a brief moment, press the stance button at that time (you don't actually have to switch stances, just press R1). Your recovery segment on your ki bar will disappear right away instead of you having to wait for it to wind down before your ki starts recovering. You'll hear a "schwing" sound effect when you do it successfully.
>>336128374
The game mentions it when you check one of the tutorial corpses and in loading screens but it doesn't go into the Amrita Memories after you find it. When you attack, watch your stamina bar and you'll see it fill up white before it actually starts recovering. Press the stance button and it'll cancel the end of your animation and recover your Ki up to where the white bar was. If you do it perfectly when the bar is all the way it dispels the dark pools left behind by Yokai that slows your Ki recovery.
I've beaten both of the demo's missions multiple times and found all the Kodama in both. As far as I know, I've explored every nook and cranny in each mission.
However, there is one mystery to which the answer still eludes me. How do you use "jutsu"?
Since the game has skill trees for unlocking them and a shrine menu that allows you to ready them, I'm assuming that there is some way to use them - some elusive button combo or something.
Did anyone ever manage to use one?
>>336120358
Anyone else find Nue to be easier than Onyroki
Nioh alpha threads have a real Demon's Souls import thread feel to them
>>336129180
When you ready them, they appear in your usable item list.
>>336129180
If you have them readied via the shrine, then the items pop up in your inventory
Gotta hook those bad boys up to a shortcut key like you would elixirs or stones
>>336129180
You can use the shurikens and the talismans by binding them to your equipment slots. You know, the D-pad up, right, and down buttons.
>>336129180
Ayy lmao
You ready them in the shrine menu and then they're in your inventory. They refresh whenever you visit a shrine.
>>336129290
>>336129327
Ah, neat. I looked in there before, but I guess I overlooked them or just thought they were regular items.
>>336129258
Coincidentally I haven't been hype for a game like this since Demon's Souls
>>336129258
Thread discussion, yes, but lacks them comics. Better not I guess, bet it'll be cringey as fuck.
>>336129470
In my opinion, Demon's Souls felt a little too "only one tactic works" for me. Nioh at least allows you to use many different weapons.
Oh, and another thing I like about Nioh so far: in the first level, the shortcut you open up next to the ship allows you to go back to the boss fight faster after you die. This is way better than Demon's Souls where you have to backtrack through the entire half of the level after dying at a boss. I hope they keep this feature for all of the levels in the final.
>>336130246
Well, given that Nue has the shrine right next to his door, the key of which you can find by doing a little off-the-path exploration, so they seem to be down with that concept (As am I).
Been thinking about doing this, so list of shit people probably haven't noticed or figured out yet, starting with the one people always ask about.
>after doing an attack your Ki starts to refill up to a certain point close to where it was before actually recovering, pressing R1 will do a Ki Pulse and recover up to where the white bar is. Waiting until it fills up fully then Ki Pulsing will also clear the pools left behind by Yokai that slow your Ki recovery.
>The sword parries have followups, square parry does more damage and lets you continue attacking, triangle parry makes them fall down for a stab or to buy time
>To do Tempest, press L1 when the enemy blocks something at low Ki while you're in mid or low stance
>If you hold triangle, you can keep Windmill going until you run out of Ki
>At the Make Offering screen, press the touchpad and you can select multiple items for offering at once. Offering gives you extra Elixirs, stuff for fixing equipment, etc.
>inflicting two elemental statuses at once causes them to combine into one that reduces the enemies' Ki to zero
>The original stats for something that you can't use/is broken are shown underneath the extra effects of the weapon/armour, look for where it shows two numbers.
There's probably other stuff but I can't think of it right now, trying to strike a balance between beginner tips and stuff that you wouldn't think about or notice.
Ran out of arrows, going into mountain level, how do?
>tfw someone is gay around you and you just want to tell them to fuck the heck off.
>>336130436
That's great to hear. It's one of the things that really discouraged me from playing more of Demon's Souls.
>>336130476
>>inflicting two elemental statuses at once causes them to combine into one that reduces the enemies' Ki to zero
What really? fuckkk I played through the demo 4 times now and didnt know that. Is onboard weapon element and a different weapon buff enough or do I need to do 2 weapon buffs (does that even work?)
>>336120358
>he uses katana
lol faggot
>>336130596
I started again after realising how much I fucked up my skills
What levelling would you recommend for someone who got shit on and couldn't beat the first boss
I'm a huge Souls-fan ever since DeS, the demo is downloading right now. What should I expect before starting?
Oh fuck me. I managed to get through the entire first level and up to the boat but didn't open the gate yet and died like a bitch. And again on my way back. Everything is lost.
>>336130705
You can pretty much do it with anything that causes elements, but you can only do one element at a time with a weapon, using the weapon buffs will replace the current element the weapon has and you can only have one buff on at a time, so you could use a weapon with a element until it does the status, then use the buff.
>>336130916
To actually die again.
>>336130931
I feel sad for you. Did you forget about the gate when you first got to the shrine and looked right?
>>336130916
Don't jump into it expecting to be able exactly like Souls/BB. Just play conservatively until you've got a feel for the mechanics and combat system. Also, before you start, go into options and set it to "action mode".
>>336131108
To be able to play it like Souls/BB, rather.
>>336131108
Is that the 720p/60fps mode? I was already planning on using that considering it's a fast-paced game, but does it make a huge difference?
Demo is downloaded in a couple minutes I'm just wondering.
>>336131053
The last two guys killed me before opening the gate shortcut to the shrine. Now I'm level 9 and pretty much just in front of the boss. Meh.
>>336130964
Ah ok thanks. I will keep that in mind. Fuck I was thinking of doing another run with either Ninjutsu or Magic focused but that seals it. Defiantly will go with Magic focused and test this out
>>336130916
The thing you'll poop yourself over at first is the lock on. You can full on, back turned, run away when you're locked on, when you lightly tilt you can strafe around an enemy (blocking let's you strafe around as well). Also if you move the stick in one direction when locked on you'll kind of attack in the direction you point, so try to keep the stick neutral when attacking.
Being a Souls-fag, that's what threw me off the most when starting. I ended up enjoying it. I might buy it.
>>336131241
Yeah, it's not perfect, but it makes it a lot better.
>>336131241
Action stays mostly around 50-60, only really goes down when near flames though, while movie keeps around 30.
>>336131334
Ninjutsu can do it too with flame shurikens as long as you have at least one weapon buff or a weapon with native elemental powers that isn't fire, like the Raikiri. I just levelled up with the intention to try out everything, builds seem kinda meaningless in a demo and you get skill points so easy.
Its amazing how you faggots pretend this game is a Dark Souls rip off.
>b-but Dark Souls didnt invent that!
Jesus
>>336131773
Usually I go with a bit of everything. Have enough Ninjutsus for fire shuriken if I feel like it and Magic so I have slow and KI buff. Though I usually Keep my magic low. Maybe I should pot points into it to see how good it scales.
>>336120358
How do I kill the first boss? Should I be a certain level? Should I use a certain weapon or buff like water or earth?
>>336132507
Just hit him until he dies.
>>336132609
>_>'
What do each of the different elemental magics do? I see some sort of status effect being applied to them but I can't read it anywhere to what those status effects actually are.
>Nue in co op
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tXiSnLiqCE
kek
>>336132727
Anyone else think the guardians are all broken as fuck?
>>336132507
rub your dick with fire
Kick him to burn away his stamina for ez stunlock damage
Dodge whenever he smashes, back up until you're out of range when he gets all spinny
Second phase is much easier. Just dodge behind him for most of his attacks and slap his ass with your dick
>>336132825
Of course.
>>336132502
If it made the buffs last even longer that'd be beyond overpowered, I've only got like 6 Magic and the kekkais last forever.
>>336132678
The only ones I've figured out are fire is damage over time, lightning slows movement, and earth reduces Ki recovery
>>336132826
Best weapon and stance?
>>336132992
Katana mid, personally
You need mid/low for kicking, and low just sucks in general
But I'm a vanilla faggot who enjoys missionary position under covers for the purpose of procreation, so do whatever you feel most comfortable with
>>336132825
Nah, just the living weapons thing. I think it is fine too, it just needs to be less effective against bosses.
>>336132992
You can do that with any Weapon any build honestly. I think the faster weapons he is easier but even with the Hammer he is pretty easy once you figure him out.
Here is a run with hammer for example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXolDtipUNs
>>336133131
For the soul porpoise or recreation
is just ran in circles around Nue and there was nothing he could do to me. strafing around mobs in this shit is even easier than n dark souls. plus, if you hit him after his lighting breathe attack he will be instantly discharged
Hoping they show real pvp at e3 as well as customization.
Just because I just realised it, for the new guys. If the status effects are grey, it means you may not have the stat requirements for the weapon (at the bottom red means you don't meet it)
I still dont know what the elements do. I tried the bird spirit and he sucked shit,
>>336133856
The spirit select screen tells you about all their extra abilities and how their Living Weapon works. Bird gives you better drop rates, dodges cost less Ki, and the spirit gauge fills fast as fuck, but it runs out quickly and can't take a hit.
>mfw I just found the game has a filter at the offering shrine
I was selling everything one by one. Now its so much easier.
KATANABOYS WW@
>>336134209
>All those bonuses to low stance
I'm so sorry for your loss, anon
>>336134336
>he doesn't know
Does ninjutsu power even do anything? Meme shurikens seem to scale off of the enemy rather than me. Maybe I'm crazy.
>>336134728
Fire shuriken are great, the ground ninja stars can be good in 1vs3 situations and cheaper runs/rolls are always good. Also Having like 12 Fire Shuriken completly destroys PvE.
Shit I should've mentioned how equipment weight works.
>Only armour affects equipment weight, not weapons
>There are 4 levels of Agility (as the game calls it in stats), A is <30, B is <70, C is <100, each one has it's own colour so you can tell at a glance what you're at
>With a lower equipment weight class, your dodge goes further and dodging, dashing and attacking costs less Ki to perform, but the higher the weight is the less Ki it costs to block attacks and generally heavier armour has better defences
I'm sure this will all be lost to the wind anyway but that's for the future to decide.
>>336134728
Fire shuriken are strong as hell, Makibishi inflict slow, and normal shuriken can be useful for luring people over. I didn't get much use out of the poison and paralysis things though, they just didn't inflict the status fast enough and enemies just ran out of the clouds but I could see them being powerful if you had more and could consistently get them to take effect.
>>336133313
>>336133131
I did it. Fucking finally. I'm finally getting the hang of things now.
Thanks anons
>first boss
>he loses all his KI
>keep attacking him
>that white thingy appears under him
>as soon as I see it I press x to retreat
>he regains his KI and makes a jump attack
>I die
That's kinda too fast to react when you were in the middle of an attack as the white thingy appeared benath him.
>>336136676
Both bosses seem to have a certain amount of time to recover from their vulnerable state. You can predict it after you see it happen a few times
Guys, just a few more days until we are no longer able to play it again. What are we supposed to do until it comes out?
Also complain about the shitty "skill tree" in the surveys, please. It's fucking dogshit.
>>336137950
What's shitty about it? I think it's fine, I just want even more skills which will likely be in the full game.
>>336138206
It won't look like a skill tree at the end anymore because you just skill everything.
>>336137950
Protip: The skills have a completely unused 4th tier. Obviously the skill trees are temporary for the alpha
>>336136676
You can remove it with a perfect ki burst.
>>336138610
That shouldn't stop you from bitching about it. You just assume that it's not shit. Tell them that what you've seen so far is shit. That's the point.
>>336120667
of course ninja gaiden devs
japanese katana folded 1000 times
>trying to help people get mark of the conquerer
>they constantly summon phantoms
>or they don't help fight yokai
>or they never use their arrows
I only want to help
>>336120770
just make it take slightly more stamina for each enemy hit
>>336138782
That's not constructive criticism, might as well complain about there only being two levels in the alpha.
>>336138286
I don't understand how being able to learn everything if you level up enough is a complaint. Also it'll definitely be changed up in the full game, I don't see them giving you so many extra attacks on the first tier, unless they had a ton more for you to learn which would be cool as fuck.
>>336122573
all spirit seems ok
>>336139003
>I don't understand how being able to learn everything if you level up enough is a complaint
Aside from the fact that every character that you create will end up being the same except maybe the main weapon type that you are going to use? Yeah, no big deal. Right? Endless motivation right there.
>>336123329
story should be decent right?
William? Really? Just give me the nip name, please.
>>336130916
Prepare to be freed from your mortal coil.
>>336139150
I don't know if you know this, but you can actually spend points to "level up" for "stats"
>>336120358
>has a fucking lunar staff flurry of blows fron Ninja Gaiden and a stripper spin attack
Go back to Souls threads if you want to shit on spears for being boring/cancerous.
>>336125860
I beat Nue with the shark. Slow him with magic, use Shark living weapon and he basically dies right then.
>>336139150
Not unless you level up to something ridiculous. You need to level different stats to get points for the different skill trees. and even now with things geared for the demo they take an awful lot of points to get everything.
>>336133131
>low just sucks
amazing for evasion and defense, I hope they add a still that lets you nullify blocking ki cost if you parry it
>>336139714
Wew, lad. So the next time your spirit refills faster and lasts longer? And you might end up using the fire enhancement compared to the water? Shit, so many possibilities..
>>336139884
It's pretty much very likely to completely outskill your weapon tree, at least for the stances that you want to use.
How does summoning work?
I assume Ochiko cups are for summoning people but offering them doesn't seem to work. And is there an item you need to use to be summoned?
>>336134728
probably poison/paralysis effects scales
>>336130476
>>At the Make Offering screen, press the touchpad and you can select multiple items for offering at once. Offering gives you extra Elixirs, stuff for fixing equipment, etc.
You can hit triangle to checkmark items too.
>>336140008
Summon people from the shrines, be summoned from the mission map
>>336138846
>Get host to shortcut ladder
>stand next to ladder
>whistle a million times
>they move on and spawn a yokai
>walk into flames to suicide
I'm not whistling for my fucking health you dipshits
>>336132507
I used a katana low stance and constantly use sacred waters to dodge and run away from him without running out of stamina.
>>336139949
eh, sounds like you want more "rpg stats", doesn't mean the system sucks, just you personally don't like it
i mean even dark souls pretty much boiled down to what you just said
I'm assuming at some point the "power" stats will actually do something to how abilities scale
>>336130671
DeS has shortcuts on like half the levels
>>336139904
That's kinda what katana mid stance already has.
>>336139949
I'm at level 46 in the demo. It costs 600k Amrita for me to level up again and I still haven't maxed out the katana tree. The skill trees are nowhere near finished either since they're going to have more skills in the real game and the numbers will be different all over.
>>336140229
9 times out of 10 gestures don't animate properly to your partner. So it probably just looks like you're standing still.
>>336140229
Gestures don't always work, I think it's based on connection but most connections suck so most of the time they can't see them.
>>336140308
so midstance instant block into ki burst?
doesn't also the kill tree only have 1, 2, and 3 petal options? the 4th isn't in the demo
>>336140308
>it's just a beta!
>they'll fix it before launch!
Glad to see this meme is still alive.
>>336140270
>i mean even dark souls pretty much boiled down to what you just said
No, you've got many possibilities in DS that I don't see here. Hell, you had at least to decide if you want to go weapon enhancement or magic, here you just level it with you.
>>336120594
One of the loading screens does it.
>>336122220
Use the charged triangle shot with the spear. Aim them towards a wall and just stun lock them with the repeated attacks.
They really, really, really need to make the tough fight music harder. Like when you fight the oni cyclopes or whatever. That music is so cool but simply not loud enough compared to the rest of the environment and music.
I really really want to like this game but oh boy does it feel like a chore to play. I have no idea how the game expect you to fight 4-5 enemies at once.
>>336140731
I never had to fight 4-5 enemies at once, senpai. 2 at most.
>>336140464
It's a skill you learn where if you block just before they hit you they stagger and lose all their Ki. I don't remember how much Ki it costs you but it'd probably be the same or less as blocking. Also yeah the 4th row isn't available but it's not like they couldn't build further downwards or just add more rows.
>>336140468
>this demo only has two levels
>that must mean the full game will only have two levels
I didn't know common sense was a meme now.
>>336140842
The gate leading to the house with the demon inside, the moment I go near the entrance I aggro like four guys, one of them being a hyper-armor samurai. Been stuck on it all day
>>336141000
You could have pulled all of them out 1 by 1. That reminds me of the YOLO picture of DS2 with the narrow passage.
>>336132727
How do you gain back Ki when using a Living Weapon? Can you Ki Pulse and I just haven't been doing it?
>>336140731
you can't post a picture like that without giving source
>>336141128
He can do whatever he wants, redditanon.
