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Get in here, post games, miniatures, questions, whatever you like.

List of mini providers:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uGaaOSvSTqpwPGAvLPY3B5M2WYppDhzXdjwMpqRxo9M/edit

List of Historical Tactical, Strategic, and Military Drill treatises:
http://pastebin.com/BfMeGd6R

ZunTsu Gameboxes:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/yaokao3h1o4og/ZunTsu_GameBoxes

/hwg/ Steam Group:
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Games, Ospreys & References folders:
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lu95l5mgg06d5/Ancient
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/81ck8x600cas4/Medieval
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/w6m41ma3co51e/Horse_and_Musket
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/vh1uqv8gipzo1/Napoleonic
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bbpscr0dam7iy/ACW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/bvdtt01gh105d/Victorian
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/b35x147vmc6sg/World_War_One
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8a13ampzzs88/World_War_Two
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/z8i8t83bysdwz/Vietnam_War
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7n3mcn9hlgl1t/Modern

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/8tatre3vd10yv/Avalon_Hill
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/pq6ckzqo3g6e6/Field_Of_Glory
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/r2mff8tnl8bjy/GDW
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/whmbo8ii2evqh//SPI
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/ws6yi58d2oacc/Strategy_%26_Tactics_Magazine
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/lx05hfgbic6b8/Naval_Wargaming
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/s1am77aldi1as/Wargames
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>>47174099
>Wargaming Compendium
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cghxf3475qy46aq/Wargaming+Compendium.pdf
>Saga
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/alj31go19tmpm/SAGA
>Black Powder
http://www.mediafire.com/download/o5x6blwoczojmfr/Black+Powder.pdf
>Bolt Action
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/n7jmdnlv1n0ju/Bolt_Action
>Hail Caesar
https://mega.nz/#F!s9xTTDpQ!CasEjRETeqZsJ5LOzYrJdg
>Warhammer Ancient battles 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/download/uttov32riixm9b0/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+2E.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/ta7aj1erh7sap1t/Warhammer+Ancient+Battles+-+Armies+of+Antiquity+v2.pdf
>Warmaster Ancients
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cifld8bl3uy2i5g/Warmaster+Ancients.pdf
http://www.mediafire.com/download/3emyvka11bnna1b/Warmaster+Ancient+Armies.pdf
>Advanced Squad Leader
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/d9x0dbxrpjg48/Advanced_Squad_Leader
>Impetus
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/28i9gevqws518/Impetus
>Ronin
http://www.mediafire.com/download/m8xke04pc3hne2k/Ronin.pdf
>Battleground WWII
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cb83cg7ays4l1/Battleground_WWII
>By Fire And Sword
https://mega.co.nz/#!jxgCWTYD!FCp52DAqIUc-EM-TsRsWv7fB92nJ3kkzKsNcD_urI5Q
>Modelling & painting guides
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/7b5027l7oaz05/Modelling_%26_Painting_Guides
>Twilight 2000/2013 RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!C9sQhbwb!NVnD4jvUn5inOrPJIAkBhA
>Phoenix Command RPG
https://mega.co.nz/#F!b5tgXRwa!mzelRNrKPjiT8gP7VrS-Jw
>Next War (GMT)
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/eupungrg93xgb/Next_War
>Battlegroup
https://mega.nz/#F!SolyxarJ!GUg6zWBStfznr6BvYedghQ
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>>47174114
Desired scans :
Black Powder supplements
Rank and File supplements
Harpoon 3 & 4 supplements
Hail Caesar! Late Antiquity to Early Medieval Army List
Force on Force supplements
Hind Commander
At Close Quarters
War and Conquest
Germany Strikes!
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10th May - TODAY IN MILITARY HISTORY
48BC Caesar retreats from Dyracchium -- Learn More
1386 Treaty of Windsor: England & Portugal initiate the world's most enduring alliance
1609 Dutch & Spanish conclude the "Twelve Years' Truce"
1671 Col. Thomas Blood attempts to steal the Crown Jewels from the Tower of London
1812 Napoleon leaves Paris to join his army for the invasion of Russia
1831 Alexis de Tocqueville arrives in the US, at Newport, RI, for a ten month tour
1846 Mexican War: Battle of Resaca de la Palma
1849 Battle of Palestrina: The Garibaldini defeat the Neapolitans
1861 US Naval Academy moves from Annapolis to Newport, aboard the USS 'Constitution'
1862 Battle of Farmington, Ms
1862 Confederates abandon positions near Ft Pickens, Pensacola
1864 Battle of Swift Creek/Drewery's Bluff/Ft Darling, Va
1864 Naval battle of Helgoland: Tegethoff's Austrians defeat the Danes
1898 Havana: US ships & Spanish batteries exchange fire
1911 Mexican Revolutionaries invest Ciudad Juarez (to May 11)
1912 First Airplane Take Off From a Ship: Lt. Charles R. Sampson, RN, flies a Short Pusher off HMS 'Hibernia' in Weymouth Bay, England
1915 Battle of Artois begins
1916 Sykes-Picot Agreement: Brits & French divide up the Ottoman Empire
1926 Lt Cdr Richard Byrd & CMM Floyd Bennett fly over the North Pole
1936 Italian troops occupy Addis Abeba, securing Ethiopia
1942 USS 'Wasp' (CV-7) launches 47 RAF Spitfires to reinforce Malta
1944 Japanese capture Lushan & the Peking-Hankow RR
1945 Czechoslovakia liberated from Nazi occupation
1945 German troops in the Channel Islands surrender to the British
1946 Victor Emmanuel III of Italy (1900-1946) abdicates in favor of his son Umberto II, who is ousted on June 12 in favor of a republic
1949 Accession of Rainier III as Prince of Monaco (1949-2005)
1955 German Federal Republic joins NATO
1964 Khrushchev visits Egypt
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Someone else needs to think of a theme and a story, I'm a work. Can't into.
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>>47174282
today is the begining of the fall of france. im also at work though :(
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>>47175396
If the tanks succeed, then victory follows.
Heinz Guderian
By May 1940, Europe had been at war for nine months. Yet Britain and France, despite having declared war on Germany in September 1939 following Hitler’s attack on Poland, had seen little real fighting. This tense period of anticipation – which came to be known as the ‘Phoney War’ – met an abrupt end on 10 May 1940, when Germany launched an invasion of France and the Low Countries.

The German plan of attack, codenamed Case Yellow, entailed an armoured offensive through the Ardennes Forest, which bypassed the strong French frontier defences of the Maginot Line. The advance would then threaten to encircle French and British divisions to the north, stationed on the Belgian frontier.

The German offensive quickly overwhelmed Dutch forces, and the bombing of Rotterdam persuaded the Netherlands to surrender on 15 May. And although German forces in the north encountered strong French and Belgian resistance, the main German thrust through the Ardennes met with tremendous success. French second-rate divisions in the area were not prepared or equipped to deal with the major armoured thrust that developed (the forest and poor roads were thought to make this impossible), and were hammered by incessant attacks by German bombers.
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>>47176255

Just four days into the invasion German troops crossed the Meuse river, and had broken through the French lines. Attempts by the Allies to launch counterattacks by air and land either failed with heavy losses, or were thwarted by the pace of events. The British Expeditionary Force, along with the best units of the French army, were still in the north and had seen little fighting. But the German breakthrough to the south now forced them into rapid retreat to avoid being cut off with their backs to the sea. On 20 May German tanks reached Amiens and effectively trapped the British, who now made for Dunkirk and an unlikely attempt at evacuation to England.

In these desperate circumstances, an evacuation plan known as ‘Operation Dynamo’ was hastily prepared in Dover by Vice Admiral Bertram Ramsay. His strategy included an appeal for all civilian vessels that could cross the Channel to help ferry the troops from the beaches to larger ships offshore, or to evacuate them entirely. Between 26 May and 4 June - a period during which Hitler halted the advance of his troops on Dunkirk - 200,000 British and 140,000 French troops were evacuated to England. Nine allied destroyers and approximately 200 civilian vessels were lost during the evacuation, and the RAF suffered severe casualties covering the operation from the air.

On 5 June, the Germans swung southwards and French resistance finally collapsed, although not without heavy fighting. On 10 June, Italy opportunistically entered the war on Germany’s side. Four days later, the French capital fell, provoking the flight of the French Government to Bordeaux. The Government capitulated on 25 June, just seven weeks after the beginning of the invasion.
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>>47176268

The British 51st Highland Division - stationed in the Maginot Line when the fighting started – was forced to surrender at St Valéry. During the final evacuation of British troops from St Nazaire on the Atlantic coast, the troopship Lancastria was sunk with the loss of around 4,000 refugees, British troops and crew. Reluctant to take the risk that the French Navy would end up under German control, Churchill ordered the Royal Navy to present French warships at Mers-el-Kebir with an ultimatum to sail to Britain or to a neutral port for internment. When this offer was rejected on 3 July, British ships bombarded the fleet, killing 1,600 people. Although this operation did much to assure America of the strength of the British purpose, it and the evacuation of Dunkirk did immeasurable damage to Franco-British wartime relations.
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>>47174282
I was going to go with:

It is 220 years since the Battle of Lodi, where French forces under General Napoleon Bonaparte fought an Austrian rear guard led by Karl Philipp Sebottendorf at Lodi, Lombardy. The rear guard was defeated, but the main body of Johann Peter Beaulieu's Austrian Army had time to retreat.

The French advance guard caught up with the Austrians at about 9 am on 10 May and after a clash followed them towards Lodi. The town's defences were not strong, the defenders were few, and the French were able to get inside and make their way towards the bridge. The span was defended from the far bank by nine battalions of infantry arrayed in two lines and fourteen guns. The Austrian general in command at Lodi, Sebottendorf, also had four squadrons of Neapolitan cavalry at his disposal, giving him a total of 6,577 men, who were mostly completely exhausted after a hasty forced march. Sebottendorf decided that it was inadvisable to retire in daylight, and opted to defend the crossing until nightfall.

One eye-witness stated that the Austrians had men attempting to destroy the bridge, but that the French stopped their efforts by bringing up guns to fire along its length. It should have been fairly easy to prevent a French crossing because the bridge was wooden, and could have been burnt. It was about 200 yards long, and was a very simple structure consisting of piles driven into the river bed every few yards, with beams laid to form a roadway.

The French advance guard was not strong enough to try to cross the bridge, so several hours passed while further French forces came up. During the afternoon, a violent cannonade began, as French guns arrived and were positioned to fire across the river. It has been suggested that Bonaparte was personally involved in directing some of the guns, and that his troops began to refer to him as le petit caporal (the little corporal) because of this, but there seems to be little contemporary evidence to back this up.
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>>47176302
Eventually, at about 6 pm, the French prepared for an attack, with Marc Antoine de Beaumont's cavalry being sent to ford the river upstream, and a column consisting of the 2nd battalion of carabiniers (elite light infantry) being readied inside the walls of the town. The carabiniers then stormed out of the gates and onto the bridge. Grenadier memorist Vigo-Roussillon stated that the enemy artillery fired one salvo when the troops were part-way across, causing numerous casualties, at which point the column wavered and stopped, but a number of senior French officers rushed to the head of the column and led it forward again. These officers included André Masséna, Louis Berthier, Jean Lannes, Jean-Baptiste Cervoni, and Claude Dallemagne.

Some of the French climbed down the piles and waded through the water, firing as they went. The Austrian troops were already exhausted from hours of marching and fighting without food, probably demoralised by the French cannonade, and also seem to have been worried about being cut off by the French cavalry. Their morale collapsed as the carabiniers rushed towards them, and a hasty retreat ensued, the fugitives making the most of the gathering dark to make their escape towards Crema, though some brave units discouraged the French from pursuing too closely.

Austrian losses were 21 officers, 2,015 men, and 235 horses, killed, wounded and missing. In addition, 12 cannons, 2 howitzers and 30 ammunition wagons had been lost. French losses are not known with any precision, but are thought to have numbered about 500.

The Battle of Lodi was not a decisive engagement, since the Austrian army had successfully escaped. But it became a central element in the Napoleonic myth and, according to Napoleon himself, convinced him that he was superior to other generals, and that his destiny would lead him to achieve great things.

http://www.mediafire.com/download/598937bp815uzvg/Osprey+-+MAA+257+-+Napoleon's+Campaigns+in+Italy.pdf
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>>47176328
>using pictures of models for the story
Sorry other guy, this guy wins.
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>>47176345
>be me
>other guy
>posts French
>concedes defeat

Didn't see that one coming.
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I was going to go with http://www.jersey.com/english/discoverjersey/occupationtoliberation/Pages/TheLiberationofJersey.aspx (and possibly something about the non-evacuated islanders pinching all the furniture from Alderney), but alas only phone access.
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Bump.
What is the best manufacturer for 6mm ww2 vehicles?
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>>47178995
Who*
Sorry
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>>47178995
If you want quality, you can't beat GHQ.
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>>47179039
Thanks
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>>47179110
Word to the wise, GHQ models are a slightly different size from their competitors, so if you're thinking about getting vehicles from multiple sources you might want to take that into consideration.
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Right guys the question of all time. Napoleonics, 15mm or 28mm?
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>>47174099
For those of you thinking about writing rules but never getting round to it, just start writing. I did this weekend and I have a playable game, so that's something. Tested it yesterday and was surprised it worked. Even took a pic.

>>47179318
15mm of course. Easier, cheaper, numerous and require less space.
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>>47179318
I'd be inclined to go 15mm, unless you have a huge table, and even then I'd probably still go for 15mm.
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>>47179318

Depends on the scale of games you want to play. For skirmish games up to around 50 per side, the extra detail on 28mm is very nice. For larger actions it quickly becomes a ballache.

If you're looking to do really big games go with 10 or even 6mm.
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I was looking at Over the Hills and Far Away, would 15mm suit the middle 18th century? 20mm for the era is pretty sparse.
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>>47179318
Neither.
6-10mm or bust, the Napoleonic era was MADE for large battles.
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>>47179843
YESH!
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>>47179843
Might as well go for 2mm then
http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/2mmRanges/2mmHorseMusket.htm
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>>47179929
>http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/2mmRanges/2mmHorseMusket.htm
Not the guy you replied to, but I can't see the point of 2mm.
At least at 6mm you can make out some details, even more at 10.
At 2mm, why not just use chits?
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>>47180103

How about 3mm then? Still tiny but enough detail to look really awesome.
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>>47180194
That's better. Still not my cup of tea, but they're not a solid block of tiny quasi-man-shaped blobs.
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>>47180103
54mm then?
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>>47179929
>>47180194
I've played and am considering getting figures in 3mm for ww2, but I am biased for Napoleonics ranges because I have 6mm Napoleonics.

I don't have a problem with 2/3mm but you miss out a little on the uniforms.
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>>47180285
Sure, I've been thinking of trying out Five Men in Normandy or Ronin in 54mm for shits and giggles.
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Where can I go to absorb as much detail as possible about the arms, armor, and tactics of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and the Cossack Hetmanate in the 1650's? If possible, cultural details and what life was like, apart from unceasing hellish conflict. I've snatched the Ospreys in the OP, but does anyone know of any other sources for this stuff?
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>>47180329
I'd definitely do that if I could paint well enough to make it worthwhile.

Probably 5 Men in Normandy in Caen or Le Havre or someplace else with canals so I could reuse the terrain for Inquisitor.
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Right. So. This isn't a tabletop wargame. It's computerized. Anyone here ever try it? It looks like pure autism to me, but I still want to give it a go on the off chance it ever goes on sale.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/370540/
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>>47180704
Painting the miniatures well enough to do them justice is certainly one of the things holding me back.
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>>47180725
I am getting there, not spectacular, but still.

Key advice I'd give is white or grey undercoat with pre-shading, and make heavy use of glazes and media to make those glazes.
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>>47180707
Ouch, pretty typical PC wargames pricing there. I'm certain that if PC wargames publishers thought more about their pricing model in the internet age then they'd see way more sales from the interested but uncommitted.

We'll get a review when ASLAnon finds himself in money I suspect.
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>>47180806
Reviews would probably be much more critical because of the casuals finding it too confusing.
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>>47180707
Jesus Christ this game really is pure autism.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LW8YC4KJ0Q
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>>47180806
>We'll get a review when ASLAnon finds himself in money I suspect.
Oops, didn't realise it had been out for so long. Maybe we won't.
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>>47179518
>>47179792
>>47179798

Yeah I was leaning towards 15mm, I'll get my order to Essex in tonight.
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>>47180707

I've finished a full campaign of WitE and all the really complex stuff are things that are calculated automatically and while it helps understanding how these calculations are done you don't have to do the math on what your country can produce, where every single piece of equipment should go or combat results.

The things you do yourself are mostly:
1. Do air recon
2. Assign manual bombing targets (sometimes)
3. Choosing where to attack and with what
4. Moving units
5. Setting unit statuses to reserve or refit
6. Adjusting OOB

Most of your time is spend with moving units simply because there are so many of them, there are smaller scenario too which should be quite casually playable.
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>>47179809
Lads?
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>>47181152
>>47179809
Probably better for you to go for 10mm a lot more choice with Magister Militium and Pendraken.

Or go even smaller, 6mm is the godscale anyway
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>>47181248
I want individual regiments to have a lot of character though, 15mm is already getting a bit small. I'll go 10 if I have to though.
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>>47181272
What scale of combat do you want to play and how big do wou want your regiments to be?
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>>47181067
Can you alter the history in this game? Like conquer Moscow or stuff like that?
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>Have a pretty big army for FoW >Still not played it because no near FLGS
>Individually based some leftovers from my infantry
>Play 15mm ww2 skirmishs with my not wargaming friend all the weekends.
How i truly love this hobby, and i really want to see my shitty latino country
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>>47181490
*shitty latino country burn
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>>47180725
All I can say is, practice. Without practicing, you won't be a good painter, and chances are even slimmer if you won't even try.
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>>47181406

Yes of course.
There's options for randomized non-historical weather and a mode where the SU doesn't receive lend-lease too.
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>>47181067
>>47181779
needs more tweezers
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>>47181808
>microscopic units
>calculators
>gargantuan maps of Europe
>strange sheets for keeping track of shit

That looks fun as fuck.
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>>47181862
If I owned that game I'd just frame the map and mount it on my wall so everyone would think I was some sort of supervillain.
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>>47181879
>implying we aren't supervillains
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>and just past the guest room, we have the op centre
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>>47180707
Ohgod. A Grigsby game....

>>47181002
>Oops, didn't realise it had been out for so long. Maybe we won't.
I will never again purchase a Grigsby game

Why? They are just to damn big for my tastes, And when you get down to it. I want to like Operational scale games..i really do. I just bought Decisive Campaigns Case Blue last year- I start to find them to tedious and just to much stuff in them to keep track of everything.

I played Grigsbys games WAY back when he did East Front/West/Pacific War games with SSI in the 90s. Even then they were just too big to manage, and there was just too much stuff going on under the hood that the manual didnt explain real well.

Now dont get me wrong. when it comes to operational games on the computer he is the go to guy.

Its taken my 30+ years of gaming but Ive started to come to the conclusion that I just dont like operational sorts of games. Much prefer my tactical and strategic level.

But there are people out there that just eat the operational stuff up and more power to you if thats your thing.

Now..if John Tiller games ever came to Steam.......thats a WHOLE different story....
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>>47181912
>Japanese at Perth and Brisbane
>New Zealand off the side of the map
>Spain in the war

Fucking GoaT
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>>47181955
>New Zealand off the side of the map
The North Island is there

>Japanese at Perth and Brisbane
Crikey the sheilas down Bondi way won't like that one, digger
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>>47181981
>Brisbane
>Bondi
Aside from that, pretty good effort.

>The North Island is there
Double negative points, if you're going to have NZ at least have the South Island. That's like having Sydney but not the rest of Australia, or California and not the rest of America.
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>>47182003
I notice there is no Tasmania
Even the ruthless Empire of Japan would not stop so low as to occupy the Apple Isle
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Seeing all these massive hex and chit games looks really cool. I'll admit to not knowing the foggiest about them and would like to know more.
How fun are they really? How many people is it optimal to play with? Are they expensive? Are they only ww2? If not do they do ancient or Napoleonic or Pike and Shotte well? What scale are they best at representing? Where can I get them? (live in Aussie Land)
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>>47182045
Pretty much every documented era of warfare has a ruleset somewhere.
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>>47182045
Add to this question (not the op), has anyone been as far to as recreated WW2 and factored in changes in things like weather patterns? How would the fortunes of Europe have differed with more/less clement weather? How would troop movements have been affected?

You know, fantasy what if stuff with dice, hexes and chits.
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>>47181746

I think I'll grab some Tamiya 1/35 guys this weekend then, and see what happens.

1/35 is almost 54mm, right?
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>>47182137
1/35 of what? An inch? That's 0.725mm
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>>47182045
Regarding monster games: it's a personal thing as to whether they're fun or not, for my part I always loved the sedate pace of these kinds of games and their social element. Ideally you want a number of players; the more you have the less of a timesink you have to deal with when it comes to doing paperwork. Some particularly large games really need referees on top of the players. But the joy of h&c gaming is that it works well solitaire, and that's even a great way of learning the rules.

Lots of them seem to turn up in garage sales and so forth these days as the old grogs pop off; I've seen threads in recent years on /tg/ when someone has posted a bunch of classic games they scored for a few bucks. On the second hand market they can be potentially expensive; World of Flames (whose world maps I've posted, and which is also an Australian-produced games btw!) has copies on BGG going for between AUS$50-$70.

Strategic gaming like this doesn't work so well for pre-20th century stuff but it still definitely exists. There was a great one I used to have for the Napoleonic era called Le Grande Empire; still pisses me off that it got lost. But there are plenty of smaller-scale ones for every period you could possibly think of. Refer to our Avalon Hill, SPI and (especially) the Strategy & Tactics folders. We happen to have a copy of Campaign for North Africa, one of the most famous monster h&c games there is. In the GDW folder you will find their Third World War system, which covers an 80s-era conflict on a front from the Kola to the Persian Gulf.

If you're totally new to h&c gaming and have a Napoleonic interest, then you really can't go wrong with pdf related; it's been a popular starter for something like forty years and through countless copies.

>>47182082
Any good strategic level game like WiF or CNA does include that sort of thing. CNA in particular has rules reflecting desert rains and how they affected movement.
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>>47182137
54mm is a little over 2in.
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>>47182137
It's just under 29mm. PDF related is a usual chart for this sort of thing.
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>>47182045
Have a look in the OP Strategy and Tactics folders. Each magazine has a full hex and chit game included, from many different eras. Usually best for 2 players, they're detailed, but not too tricky to play. Just takes some reading to work out how the game works, once you learn one you pretty much know them all.

hex table only partially related
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>>47182162
Cheers man for both the info and the quick response. I'll have a look both in the OP and at the PDF you posted.
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>>47182178
Thanks as well to you.
Strategy and tactics sounds like its the place to look. That table looms pretty sweet too.
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Bough the wargame bundle from Bundle Stars that was linked in the last thread. Went for Tier 2.

Looking forward playing them after I get my diploma, and thanks to the anon who linked it, they look promising.
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>>47182178
Looks like a most glorious board to play Battletech on.
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>>47182172
that's 29mm = 1 meter.
Nothing to to do with wargaming 'Xmm' pseudo-scale guff.
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>>47183036
I think thats what it was used for

Obligatory for the WW2 nuts among us:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt7o1v9msA0

dont fuck with the mighty KV-1 early war
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>>47174166
>48BC Caesar retreats from Dyracchium -- Learn More
>Learn More
Is that advice for Caesar?
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>>47183981
>Desire To Learn More Intensifies
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>>47183971
are those cobi blocks?
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Does anyone have the Altar of Freedom 6mm rules?

6mmacw.com
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Is anyone in the south-west of the UK here?

Because there's a Jutland Naval Wargame being run at the end of May. Open to all, no experience necessary.
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>>47185657
Ooh, my exams will be done by then. Even though I'm in Yorkshire I'm tempted to get the train down or something.
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>>47185691

It's being held at a Naval reserve unit, and I know for a fact there are some bunks there; alternatively the officer organising it has said he might be able to put up a few people.

Worth shooting him an email and at least asking.
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>>47181694
Chile?
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>>47182172
it's actually there at the bottom of page 1. 54mm = 1/32
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>>47181914
I wouldn't want to control units of tens of tanks in a map that big.

I'm playing Tiller's nam game on mobile because of /hwg/
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>>47185657
1 hour 50 minute drive from me.

Actually tempted, if only I didn't work the Saturday and Monday surrounding it.
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>>47185657
Nice! Wish I were able to attend, but wrong continent and all...
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>>47185720
Argentina
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>>47185262
pretty sure that lego
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>>47186262
Those minifigs and a lot of the detail bits aren't Lego.
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boom-p
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>>47185657
Bristol's only an hour away I'm sorely tempted.
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>>47185496
>496▶
>Does anyone have the Altar of Freedom 6m

Bump
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>>47181313
Sorry, was going to reply further last night but I was pretty cooked, burning the candle at both ends with uni lately.
I'd have maybe half a dozen players in the campaign with a regiment each. I don't have the budget or extant collection to do 28mm, I was kinda hoping for 20mm but there's just bugger all available. In 10mm or 6mm I could probably go with hexes which one of my players would prefer and the rest would go along with though, and I need a large pool of enemies; even if I only paint up one European power I still need militia, civilians and Jacobites so the cheaper scales are something that needs to be considered. I just wanted the players to form an attachment to the model representations of their regiments as well as the figures.

>>47185905
I'd still go tbqh, two hours drive isn't too much, stay at a pub or something nearby the night before and drive back after.
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>>47190212
Oops, the rules recommend bases for every few companies, so 10mm or probably 6mm might be most appropriate. I'd need to buy a lot of opposition too if 6mm works out cheaper.
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Does anybody know when the Perry's release their metal Afghans for the 2nd Anglo Afghan war.

I just finished rewatching 'The Man Who Would be King' and I'm pretty hyped.
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>>47189212
It's not that much further for me. Will see if I can drag one of the locals... Doubt I can though because the ones who might be interested recently spawned.
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so im pretty interested in starting an army for black powder. i know the consensus is that its not the best game but 28mm figs appeal to me modelling wise.
Are there army or campaign books to go with it or do i need to research an order of battle? i was thinking either swedish or ottomans from the era. recommendations?
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>>47191788
there are books for specific campaigns/wars but none cover what you're interested in.

It'd be down to your own research in looking at OOB and general military history for the nations involved.
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>>47191813
wow fast reply.
Crimean war not covered? damn. i seem to have a modelling hard on for rare or less supported stuff... my flames of war stuff is greek and my BA is italian. why am i like this?
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>>47191872
There are several rulesets which could apply to 28mm. I'm building a Boer army in 28mm for Death in the Dark Continent.

As for why you want niche stuff, that's because it's what interests you. I started with Bolt Action WWII Germans because it was popular, but I never cared about historical wargaming until I started my First Boer War Transvaal Commando. Let me tell you - any company which produces Boer models (and there aren't that many), most of them produce them for the Second Boer War.

I wouldn't really say that Italians are less supported in WWII though, there are plenty of ranges and their Bolt Action special rules can be fun.

The Crimean War is reasonably close to the First Boer War, you should be able to find some shit. Just use the list of suppliers in the OP.
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>>47191872
well it's covered by the rules. I just that there is no sourcebook like there is for the Pennisular Campaign or AWI etc.
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>>47191872
>>47191907

To carry on Black Powder is a basis and framework from which to work with. It gives you a core set of rules and abilities to use.

The key is adapting it to the specifics of the conflicts you are trying to recreate. This is generally done by reading around the SUbject of the war itself.
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dice+1d20
ahhhhhh
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thanks for the advice regarding black powder. i'll get researching and see you all on the battlefield

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>>47192066
thats an autoblinda If I'm not mistaken. I have a couple in 1/72 for our Italian WW2 army.

ZSU-23-4 Shilka unrelated
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>>47183971
>that anti-aircraft gun crew
Fukken based
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>>47191399

You'd think they'd do plastics Afghans eventually, since you'll need great big piles of em
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>>47195462
Apparently the plastic Mahdists didn't sell very well, or at least as well as they hoped/other things.

Which I can see because it's a rather specific kit. I feel a plastic Afghan/hill tribe kit would have a few more applications.
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>>47194600
you would be correct. my BA autoblinda 41 painted for to hide from yankee dogs in operation husky.

one more black powder question though! do the said sourcebooks for peninsula campaign give bonuses or special rules for armies to reflect organization or other unique things about an army or it it all at player discretion?
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Wierd but quick question for you guys.
What would you choose. Bolt Action or SAGA?
You can only choose one,(let's say) you like both periods and playerbase and minis suppliers are roughly the same where you live.
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>>47198360
SAGA.

It's a far more interesting game than BA in my opinion. There are other ww2 games I'd rather play than BA such as DH/CF7B.
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>>47198360
Considering one of the Gripping Beast boxes could in theory build you two decent-sized warbands, I'd probably pick SAGA.

Also dat sweet sweet 4ground terrain.
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>>47198360
What are the other people in your region playing?
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>>47198360
Counter-question: do you actually like either game?
Because I had effectively the same dilemma where I am.

I opted out and played games I liked instead.
Not anywhere near as frequently as those games get play time but I'm probably happier for it
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>>47198417
BA is here for like 1,5 year. SAGA is quite new but gaining popularity very fast. Other most popular /hwg/ systems are DBA and FOW.
>>47198424
I really like both settings. BA rules seems to be clearer for me but SAGA use less minis and it's huge plus.
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>>47198458
If i were you and low mini count is a plus to you then i suggest to start a SAGA warband to start playing.
You can start collecting a ww2 army later.
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>>47198401
The gripping beast site is pretty hard to navigate, what boxes are you talking about?
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>>47198728
Their plastic box sets.

http://www.grippingbeast.co.uk/Plastic_Figures--category--32.html

Their starter bundle stuff ain't too shabby either.
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>>47198740
>22GBP
>44 warriors
Wtf that is a great price.
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>>47197454
You're right about the specificity. If those Mahdists were a little more convertable/generic I'd be using them for Abyssinian spearmen, Garamantes and Numidians, and northeast Africans in general.

But they're not.
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>>47198795
about the same price as some perry kits
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>>47198831
I've seen people do some very good stuff with them but it's a very large amount of effort for limited gain.

when just purchasing other blisters is porbably cheaper in both time and money in the long run.

I've also seen ACW Zouaves converted to afghans/indians.
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>>47198795
See what I mean about it getting you two decent sized armies?
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>>47198943
Yup, I could just buy the Saxon box and a model of Aethelflaed and my dream Mercian army would be complete.
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>>47198360
I'd take BA, because I'd like to play a platoon supported by a tank. Also, maybe play CoC one day.
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So folks, what are you working on? Anyone doing some colonial stuff?
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>>47201784
Infinity painting and I have plans to turn a skin into an Imperial Guardskink (For the Imperium of Skin-Man, chaaarge). I also need to paint 1:something hind as a dragon.

Er, for historical stuff, I have a friend basing my 6mm soviet TY stuff.
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>>47201784
I painted up a bunch of T-72s last week for Team Yankee.
Currently, I'm planning out a major touch-up project on my 15mm Canadians, partially in preparation for a scenario day we're planning to run in a month.

In terms of non-historical stuff, I'm working on some Battletech minis, both for the classic game and Alpha Strike.
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>>47201784
When I get home from college on friday there will be 140 6mm brits waiting on me.
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>>47201971
Which era?
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>>47201784
Starting 20mm Taliban, they're primed currently. Will probably redo them several times depending on how they turn out (first time doing mini painting).
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>>47201784

Finished six 15mm Panzer III today, I'll try making some photos later.
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>>47201784
doing some AWI and Sudan/NWF things. Trying to cobble something together to try out the africa mod for Muskets and Tomahawks.
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>>47202175
2nd world war
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Anyone played any Ancient Greeks? What systems did you use?
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>>47198401
rivers of piss
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>>47204618
It's viking times, toilets hadn't been invented yet obviously.
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>>47204670
In Toilet times, vikings hadn't been invented yet obviously.
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Finished the last figure for my East Engle command and got started on the Ceorls, got two down and 24 more to go.

This was also my first time painting red hair, it looks better at the back where there's more detail but I'm happy with the results. You can't see very well but the figure in the middle has brown eyes and the other two have light blue eyes.

I've also got a box of 44 GB Plastic Thegns waiting to be painted and some footsore early Saxons on the way.
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>>47205316
Don't get me wrong, that's good work, but holy crap are those eyes hilarious.
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>>47205316
Close up on a Ceorl, this guy's clothing colours were taken from the Bayeux Tapestry.

>http://users.trytel.com/tristan/towns/florilegium/images2/def01a.jpg

I'm also looking for shield pattern ideas, has to be historical ofc.
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>>47204157
6mm WW2 are great. WHo made them?
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>>47204545
Warhammer Ancients
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>>47201784
just finished an elefantino AT team for bolt action but not posting pictures because they show up the massive mold line i totally missed.

shamfuru dispray
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>>47201784
Got 35 Boers for 25GBP the other day so I'm really looking forward to putting them together for DitDC, but I've promised myself I'll finish my Bolt Action models first so I don't end up with a backlog.

The funny thing is that even the largest DitDC continent army with the maximum number of Boers will only use 24 of the models I bought.
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>>47204545
Yeah I wrote a system and played quite a few games.

I really enjoy researching a period and writing rules for it. This is mainly for Greco-Persian Wars, but I think I intended to add romans (hence why carthage is in there) in but never got around to it. Pretty decent ruleset though, does the job and is pretty simple.

DBA seems to be the system of choice for most ancient gamers these days
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>>47207814
Did you get the empress boers? I've been thinking about getting some for my NZ wars game, they would make good mounted miniatures, even if the weapons and attire aren't 100% correct for NZ wars.

>>47201784
Almost finished editing and writing up the main rule book for Ostfront, out WW2 system. Campaign rules are pretty much in, just need to stat out a few post war tanks for players who are able to capture tech centres in late war...
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>>47210837
No, I got EOE Orbis UK Transvaal Homestead Contingent Boers. What I need now are mounted counterparts for each model, but they're so expensive. And dozens of Swazi.
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>>47212124
When you think about it, a bomb is just a really big bullet.
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>>47212308
Not even close. Vast majority of bullets don't explode on impact, and bombs don't have explosive propellant or they'd be rockets.
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>>47212333
When you think about it, a bomb is just a really big, specific kind of bullet that explodes on impact and are dropped on the enemy.
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>>47212348
So when you think about it, a bomb is really not a bullet at all.
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>>47212371
I think we're not on the same level of high. But yes
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>>47212333
>Not even close. Vast majority of bullets don't explode on impact
Military issues full metal jacket ammo, those don't deform and will go clean through you, which is nice for soldiers and surgeons. Those do not 'explode on impact'. But most other types of ammo these days is specifically designed to avoid over penetration or ricochets.
There are even specific types of bullets made for use in pressurized environments like planes, made out of polymers and such.

So I think for most use cases outside of warfare, like law enforcement and the like you'd see stuff like hollow point ammunition that shrooms or stuff that disintegrates or otherwise minimizes collateral damage. Things that'll likely be used in urban or otherwise crowded areas.

I'm by no means an expert, but it's pretty interesting how specific bullets are designed for different use cases these days and how often it involves 'exploding' the bullet.
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Can I base miniatures on foamboard? Or is that a bad idea? It seems to be the cheapest way to make bases.
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Going to push this a bit: Blood and Plunder, the kickstarter is 6 days from finishing right now, and planned to be released in december (so I guess we'll see it in march): https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/firelockgames/blood-and-plunder

28mm skirmish in the caribbean early during the age of pirates (roughly around 1650). Currently, they have spanish (militia or "coast guard" (means sanctioned pirates) or english (militia or buccaneers (means pirates)), and if they get an additional 19,000 (quite likely), they'll add Brethren of the Coast (international pirates). Other planned factions are french, dutch, natives (hell knows how that works with ships) and apparently danish...

The system is supposed to be designed so that the same rules work for both naval and land based combat. Metal models, resin ships, and looks awesome
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>>47213807
>natives (hell knows how that works with ships)

I guess they'll have their indigenous boats; a swarm of them loaded with archers could be bad news. Several pirates came to grief at the hands of angry locals - l'Ollonais being a memorable example.

>apparently danish..

Believe it or not the Danes had a colony in the Caribbean. It was never very successful, but it lasted until Denmark sold it to the US in 1917. You got the exotic spectacle of Danish-speaking black guys popping up in the homeland during the 18th century, which is a fun historical oddity.

I love pirate wargaming of all kinds but have yet to find a system that has gotten me hooked, so I'll keep a curious eye on this one.
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>>47205871
Baccus, they launched there ww2 range last month.
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>>47213952
>Danes had a colony in the Caribbea
I didn't know that. But I find it hilarious, thank you.
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>>47213992
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danish_West_Indies

Bizarre alternate Napoleonic action: the British occupied the place in 1807 (when Denmark was technically on Boney's side); historically it was bloodless but could make for a truly unusual and exotic battle.
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>>47213953
/me goes to look. ooh.
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I actually managed to play Pataliputra in Chandragupta. Despite neither me and my opponent really knew what we were doing, and probably fucked up half the rules, it was still a blast.

He was the Nanda and I was Maurya. He started out agressively, while I was more careful keeping my guys in a line. When eventually battle broke out, we quickly found out that our guys were utterly awful at stocking up on arrows, as well as utterly unable to charge without losing massive cohesion.

At first we both stuck to the Dharmayuddha (or whatever it's called) code, meaning that we didn't make flanking attacks and superior units couldn't attack inferior units, but when I gained the chance to strike with my elephants on his flank, I scratched the code and faced the penalty. He tried sticking to the code, but found that it just wasn't worth it, because his elephants in the center couldn't attack anyone. After that it was a massive confused melee, with his elephants plowing through my center.

In the end I was routed, but I did manage to bring his reserve into play, which constitutes a "moral victory". The game has a lot of moving parts, but it's really fun. The paper maps are a bit frustrating though, so I've decided to invest in an acrylic sheet to keep it level.
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>>47213992
You may also be interested to know that both Courland (in modern day Latvia) and the Knights of Malta also colonised the caribbean.
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>>47214130
Well if that's what we're talking about, you should know that the Carthaginians colonised Peru in conjunction with the ancient Spanish Kelts. They were technically the first Old Worlders to set foot in the New World, until the Vikings of course.
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>>47214147
Do you have a source for that?

I have an MA in ancient history and I'm pretty certain that Carthaginians never set foot in the new world.
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>>47214211
History channel bullshit is what google tells me.
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>>47214211
It's obviously not accepted in the mainstream yet, but little ancient history is certain anyway, it's just degrees of historical evidence.

Tthe Chachapoyan civilisation of the eastern Andes could be the descendants of European settlers. Their culture has been carbon-dated back to 400AD, and their culture seems to have appeared from nowhere, and is dissimilar to other South American cultures.

However, there are similarities between the Chachapoyans and Carthage and Spanish Kelts in burial customs, religion, art, pottery, and weaving. For example, the Chachapoyans and Kelts kept the skulls of their defeated enemies in their homes and drilled holes in them with conical drills. The Chachapoya and the Kelts built round stone buildings, rather than square wooden buildings in the South American fashion. The Chachapoyans used slingshots, a Carthaginian weapon not commonly used in South America.

Some Chachapoyan mummies had tuberculosis, which makes little sense if the Chacapoyans are indigenous to the New World as the New World did not have cattle until European settlement.

As the Romans expanded into Libya, Carthaginians in the Baleares and Kelts in northern Spain fled the invasion. While the Romans cared little for naval exploration, the Carthaginians certainly travelled at least as far west as the western Azores, and far south down the coast of Africa.

A Sicilian writer from 100AD told of a Carthaginian explorer whose ship got lost during a storm and eventually landed far to the west on a "Great Island". Hence the discovery of South America, specifically Brazil. They reached the Andes in Peru no doubt afraid of Roman pursuers (who are recorded as sailing as far west as Cape Verde in pursuit), and likely wanted to find conditions more similar to Spain to begin their agriculture, so they may have followed the Amazon river.

Notably, the Chachapoyans have blonde/red hair, pale skin, and freckles, and their DNA is similar to that of northern Spain.
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>>47214347
Llamas and alpacas can carry bovine tuberculosis, and other natives have had TB lesions that predate introduction of cattle. It's likely that they're just an inferior host for transmission, and instead will only become infectious for short periods of time (probably around calving).
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>>47214347
Yeah.... gonna need you to cite some sources for that buddy.
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>>47214535
It's literally all right there. The individual facts can be simply googled. Ffs the wikipedia page for Chachapoyans talks of their blonde/red hair.

>>47214456
Cool, I didn't know that.
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>>47214697
http://cid.oxfordjournals.org/content/41/4/515.full
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>>47214697
Yeah, when some shits actually published by quality scholars I'll agree but until then you're making some fucking bold claims with limited evidence.


On another note I need African miniatures. I know of foundry, northstar and copplestone. The standards if you will. What about the others anyone know?
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>>47214825
>Given that bovine tuberculosis has been detected in modern llamas and wild bison, their ancestors might have transported tuberculosis to the New World across the Bering land bridge before it sank below the Arctic Sea. However, because neither animal is a natural host for M. bovis, it is more likely that the original cases of American tuberculosis were M. tuberculosis infections transported to the new land not by animals, but by infected humans.
Interesting af desu. Fringe theories are always fun.
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>>47214866
Because /his/ is shit I am just going to ask here. Do you guys know any extensive book that gives you a great overview of the 30 years war? They have Europe's tragedy in the university library but I don't want to start with a book of 900 pages that I know nothing about.
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>>47214982
http://www.goodreads.com/book/show/6640471-the-thirty-years-war

Read bits of it, not the whole thing?
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>>47215036
I kind of worded it badly there, I want toknow if there are any works on it that are considered classics.
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>>47214867
Doesn't really support the Carthaginian theory. Map of cases shows them primarily being North American natives which would seem to support Bering land bridge introduction.

I'm personally of the opinion that human TB has always existed in the new world, but that it was a less virulent strain when compared to the human TB strains in Europe, Asia and Africa. It's also good to keep in mind the TB is caused by several different bacteria, but we predominantly talk about mycobacterium bovis.
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>>47215143
There's also this article from 2014 that genotypes mycobacterium found in a peruvian skeleton to be similar to one found in seals.
http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v514/n7523/full/nature13591.html
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>>47215075
I would consider the Osprey "Lutzen" a classic from a wargames and historical aspect. Great run down of a battle that epitomized warfare of the period. its in the OP folders in horse and musket I think
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>>47210794
Awesome. I'll check these out! What's DBA? I'm mainly interested in the Peloponnesian War. Any one built an Ancient Greek army?
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>>47216038
> DBA

De Bellis Antiquitatis, one of the more venerable systems out there.
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>>47216060
Google says the rules fit on one page!?
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>>47216243
Depends on the size of the page.
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>>47216243
I think Google's lead you a bit wrong there anon
There's the 3rd ed complete with everythng you'd need

http://www.mediafire.com/download/1lfvfani2aevoym/DBA+3.0.pdf

While PDF related is also something you should look at.
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>>47216268
you sir, are an officer & a gent!
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>>47214038
senpai get some 3mm minis for it
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>>47205355
karls gonna karl
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>>47214866
Perry just dropped some Xhosa for their Cape Frontier Wars range if you're interested in Africans, both with spears and muskets.
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>>47214347
>A Sicilian writer from 100AD told of a Carthaginian explorer whose ship got lost during a storm and eventually landed far to the west on a "Great Island"
For this to make any sense, a Carthaginian has to get blown to brazil in a storm, survive, start a civilization, manage to traverse the ocean back the other way in order for people in Europe (otherwise how does anyone write about it) but then no one tries to go with them back or find it at all until 500 years later.

Literal nonsense.

>It's obviously not accepted in the mainstream yet, but little ancient history is certain anyway, it's just degrees of historical evidence.
Oh good, this meme where everyone tells me my degree is in guessing what happened in the past. Just because Ancient History is more vague doesn't mean that any theory gets to be given any sort of credibility.

Long story short this is basically bunk.
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>>47216926
> For this to make any sense

You forgot the part where they apparently trekked across the Amazon to the Andes and survived in large enough numbers to found a new civilisation.
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>>47201971
And, how are they quality wise? Was thinking about ordering them myself too
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>>47217413
Oh nvm, missed 'friday' in your post
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I'm looking for surrendering 28mm WWII minis. Anyone know of any?
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>>47218185
> inb4 models of normal French soldiers.
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>>47218185
Models of normal Italian soldiers.
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>>47218227
>>47218239
kek
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>>47218258
My bad, I was drawing a distinction between 'surrendering' and 'running away'
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>>47214038
>bunch of totally white hexes

Ah yes, I see the importance of this meticulously drawn map
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>>47179318

Idk if it's the same for napoleonics but it seemed like most 15mm ancients were comparable in price to plastic 28s, $30 for 40 xyston 15mm Phalangites vs $35 for 40 warlord 28s

Perry, Warlord, and Victrix all make napoleonics and iirc the Victrix are dirt-cheap, about 50 cents per figure

Lots of dirt-cheap 1/72nd (20mm?) plastic napoleonics too

I know everyone loves tiny minis here but I came to historicals by way of GW and like painting/conversion so I always err in favor of 28s where feasible, the wealth of plastic 28mm kits was part of what convinced me I could get into historicals, between Perry, Victrix, GBP, and Warlord almost every major era is covered
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Delving into the nightmare that is AWI uniforms, I understand the differences of the Pennsylvania Associate battalions, but they are numbered 1-5 then 'Quaker', with blue coats. Is there a particular distinction of this batt that it is not numbered? I thought the quakers were pacifist but coming from PA a fair amount of the first five battalions still had some Quakers in it.

Also is the research provided by the Perry twins particularly accurate? I'm noticing some coat differences to other sources
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>>47218357

That said it is tempting to play 10-15mm with thousands of figs on the table, may do it one day
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>>47218368
Accuracy and the trying to do the Rebels in AWI does not exist.

From my own experience and research it is a cluster fuck of different accounts and sources. The Perry's are as accurate as any body elses, they seem to be primarily drawn from deserter records kept by the British.

This is rather annoying if one tries to be 'right' however it gives a lot of lee-way in terms what you can and can't use for colours, pretty much a hodge podge of anything due shortage of uniforms/ inadequacy of dyes.

In regards to the Pennsylvania associates I can offer no help as I have not really looked at those Regts/Batts.
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>>47214982

Europe's tragedy is amazing and filled with autistic facts like troop numbers I'm Brandenburg's army and currency conversion charts, should definitely read after you have a better grasp of the era

Geoffrey Parker's thirty years war is a good place to start, as are the Ospreys

C.V. Wedgewood is a little dated but an ok read

Diarmaid McCulloch's "The Reformation" is long but a great place to learn all the minute theological differences that led to the thirty years war (for example why the Lutheran Salons sided with the Catholic Hapsburgs against the Calvinist Rhinelanders)

The Art of Renaissance Warfare by Stephen Turnbull and The Renaissance at War by Thomas Arnold are good places to go for an understanding of the era's tactics and military theory
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>>47218599
>Lutheran Salons

Thanks autocorrect, Lutheran Saxons
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>>47218425

yeah I'm just going to go with the sky blue coats and round hats and have them as Quakers up to 1777 then count as delaware militia afterwards, I just wondered why there was an un-numbered Quaker regiment wandering around
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CELEBRATE VICTORY DAY WITH PRIDE
http://eugene-df.livejournal.com/1024142.html
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>>47218599

one more just in case you had any particularly opinion either- what would you say 'un-dyed cloth' looks like?

The 18th Continental apparently had plain cloth coats with buff facings, I've seen this as grey or beige (baccus and foundry have red waistcoats as well), but the distinction of different facings makes me think raw cloth would be different- i.e. not beige
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>>47219409
>>47218425

woops wrong post
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>>47219409
It's a biege/ very pale grey colour for undyed cotton, wool and linen.

The facings and such would be different cloth stiched on/together it wouldn't affect the coat or lining (which would probably also be a different colour).
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>>47219154
>moonrunes
no, thanks
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So I'm trying to come up with a name for the fantasy supplement for Chevauchee. I want to associate it with the times where people believed the walls between the worlds of the dead and the living were at their thinnest; Samhain, Halloween etc.
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>>47220076
Witching Hour?
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>>47218341
Well, it has a backside too

Of course, by no means is it a good-looking game, but it's not exactly expensive either

>>47216702
But how will I stack the counters?
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>>47219457

Excellent, one regiment of tramps it is
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>>47219746
>Moonrunes
Those are clearly slavrunes, man.
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>>47220720
good to see some more hex and counter stuff!

and yes..get a sheet of plexiglass to put over the maps. will make your life easier. I actually use a piece of clear vinyl over my tabel
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boar shield desu

WIP
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>>47221395

ASL-with-miniatures-anon here

Im starting to think you have the better idea ASLanon. You never appreciate how much life an ASL mapboard has until you try to make the terrain for it

kill me now
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>>47222169
>try to make the terrain for it

One day...
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>>47218617
I was wondering what was going on there, Lutherans seem a pretty dour bunch generally speaking.
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>>47220076
I don't have any name recommendations but I love the idea! European folklore doesn't get the due it deserves.
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>>47222518
I've got a provisional title of On Samhain's Eve. I'm thinking about taking a look at Celtic/Germanic folklore. The creature generators I have can produce pretty much anything you can think of, but I might flavour the pre-genned stuff around Arthurian and Celtic mythology, with a bit of Slavic stuff thrown in for good measure.

Mostly I want to shoe-horn the Wild Hunt in somewhere 'cause it's cool as fuck.
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>>47222588
needs cattle raids, faery rings, bards and druids.
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>>47222657
Cattle raids are already part of Chevauchee so I've got that covered, there's probably gonna be some sort of magical terrain table in there somewhere, spell casting's already written up so druids are possible, not sure about bards yet though.
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>>47222169
Oh some of those boards are just down right busy with crap all over it.

but it sure is pretty looking when its done.

you are a better man than I for attempting it
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bumpenwerffen
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>>47219409

I do two shades for undyed cloth, for variety, light brown basecoat working up to offwhite and a warm grey working up to the same shade of offwhite, it results in similar colours that don't look too uniform
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>>47220076
Walpurgis or Hexennacht?
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>>47221395

I used to do that as well. Was also great since you could quickly jot down and erase diagrams and info with grease pencil.
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Not sure if this goes in /bgg/ or here, but I played Virgin Queen yesterday, just a short game to introduce some more of my friends to the systems.

It plays remarkably well even when at 4 players, and everyone had a good time. We only played the first 1½ turns, but it still had a lot of events, like Spain managing to have a hand of 8 cards and 3 treasures at the start of turn 2. I still, as the Protestant, managed to nearly get as many points as him though, and I actually had a plan with England for triggering war between the two. England was probably going to chicken out though, because of my extremely rapid ascent from zero to Great Power.

I'm still really impressed with how little downtime the game has when people know how it plays, can't wait for the next time I get a full game going.
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>>47229948
>Virgin Queen
I was looking at this game a while back, what do you call that genre?
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>>47229982
A 4x I guess?
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>>47217413
Quality is great, especialy the LMG´s and MMG´s, The moment I spotted the spare-barrels the german lmg-loader carried I was delighted. Infantry is great, mortars are pretty swell aswell. Will post some pictures in the future.
>>47218599
Thanks for the tips anon, I will start with Parker and then switch over to Europe's Tragedy.
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>>47230781
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>>47229948
Looks pretty interesting
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>>47229982
>>47230186
Usually you call it a Grand Strategy game. There's no Extermination (one faction literally starts with nothing on the board) or real Exploration (but you can establish colonies). It also separates itself from 4x (traditionally speaking) in that it is absolutely intense from the beginning of turn 1.

There's a big focus on diplomacy, piracy, espionage and religious conversion, as well as war.
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6mm 7YW- What are my options?
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>>47230818
Uploaded a cropped version with. The pic is from my phone so sorry for the quality
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>>47230845
baccus for a starter, they are re-doing there range this year, they just released new generals.
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>>47230867
Nice, cheers.
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So I desided to make a modular hex Board for my 6mm ancients that I Plan on purchasing. Cut The backboard of an IKEA closet into 468 Tiles. First I lost The ablility to cut lightly, Then The feeling in my right thump (temporaly)
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Still not finished. But coming along.
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>>47231172
Will the feeling come back?
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>>47231638
Why would it not?
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