Pathfinder General /pfg/
Pets and Mounts Edition
>not riding a dragon into battle
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Old Bread: >>48177746
>>48189060
Alternative title:
"Find Gareth's Players and Bug Them for Info About His Game" Edition
Give me three reasons why this objectively isn't the best mount
>Spoiler: you can't
>>48189060
>not riding a dragon into battle
Well, I'm riding a dragon in bed, does that count?
>>48189087
>boring
>can't fly
>can't pounce
Are you ready for game night this weekend, /pfg/?
>>48189107
>able to fit thematically in virtually any setting imaginable
>pegasi are horses with wings
>can bite/kick the shit out of someone, not to mention trample
>>48189117
>pegasi are horses with wings
lol have fun investing into two useless feats to get one to carry you in the air with a 30ft. fucking fly speed.
>>48189117
Pegasi are monotremes so you can breed them and have them back in action far quicker than a horse.
>>48189125
Speaking of feats, you don't have to invest any at all to be able to ride a horse or have one as an animal companion, so that's instantly another plus as to why horses are a superior mount :^)
>>48189128
>Pegasi are monotremes
I was about to say "You're making shit up" but holy shit you're right./
>>48189138
Pegasi lay eggs?
>>48189128
>Pegasi are monotremes
>>48189116
>2 out of 6 of our members can't make it tonight.
>we're at the literal doorstep of the BBEG
>>48189125
That fly speed makes you immune to everything that doesn't fly or have ranged attacks, that's a pretty fucking big deal.
This chick is banging.
>>48189160
>30ft. fly speed
>big deal
Nevermind bows, a fighter invested with a fucking net can ground you.
>>48189153
If your DM is in any way clever, he'd have relegated those two to be guarding the group against incoming reinforcements while you guys deal with the BBEG, but that's just me.
>>48189184
Oh that's right, I forgot nets have infinite range.
>>48189190
40-60 ft. actually with a 2 feat investment.
>>48189192
>2 feats on a net
>>48189200
two feats on throwing weapons. Like javelins, throwing axes, etc.
>>48189060
Wolves are the best companions
>>48189184
Either way I'm not trying to argue that Pegasi are best mount: it's still the horse.
>Universally thematically appropriate
>Cheap to buy one
>No feat investment necessary to be able to have one as an animal companion
>Fast and strong, flying isn't necessary when you're able to plow through your enemies on the ground
>>48189215
>Cheap to buy one
You can get one for free with the Nomadic Campaign Trait actually. Funny thing is that it never specifies what kind of horse you'll get so you can go ahead and grab a heavy horse if you want something that can carry your burdens or wear armor
>>48189086
Gareth is a decent rules writer and a mediocre as fuck fluff, web story, and novel writer.
There's absolutely no reason to think Gareth would be an amazing god-tier GM or something.
>>48189226
That only compounds my point: practically anyone can get a horse if they wanted, sometimes even for free
>>48189163
She's alsoNeutral Evil.
I need a solid, what is the best path of war discipline for two handed weaponry?
>>48189288
Probably Primal Fury, or Iron Tortoise if you're a zwei sentinel.
>>48189288
Broken Blade.
Use a sansetsukon and murder enemies with Steel Flurry Strike.
>>48189099
>>48189301
Touhou poster is back I see
>>48189295
Going initiator's soul aegis and just wanted to know, cheers mates.
>>48189309
>>48189252
This is the consensus, yes.
>>48189272
Wat?
Has anyone played a cute blinkling yet? What was their doggie parent like?
>>48189099
Fuck I just realized the Gria race in FFTA2 were dragon-girls instead of bat-girls or demon-girls. How did I fuck that up.
>>48189144
Yup. Pegasi lay eggs.
>>48189117
Except Absalom. Because Paizo and JJ are speciallllll
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Feint
>When feinting against a non-humanoid you take a –4 penalty.
Why is it so much more difficult to feint an aasimar, a tiefling, a ganzi, an ifrit, an oread, asylph, or an undine, even if the feint-user and the target are of the same race?
Does feinting need to be even worse?
>>48189401
It should be non-biped.
>>48189401
>not investing into intimidate instead
You only have yourself to blame
>>48189412
BEHOLD! I HAVE BROUGHT YOU A BIPED!
This chick is banging.
>>48189434
Size is a different matter!
>>48189358Fat, throbbing knot.
>>48189474
Behold! I have brought you a medium biped!
>>48189511
That's good enough to box against, good enough to feint.
>>48189473
???
>>48189412
When I made a class centered around nonlethal combat, I created a mechanic called Daunt, which was a nonlethal version of negative levels. It included this text.
>For Daunt Levels to impose a penalty or the staggered condition, the subject must be capable of using Language-Dependent skills. Though this requirement may seem strange, it prevents animals, savage beasts, berserkers, or those of severe mental impairment from being daunted as they do not properly understand the concept of a hopeless fight. It also allows intelligent undead and awakened constructs to be Daunted. There is no limit to how many daunt levels someone can suffer, but the penalty does not exceed their hitdice.
That's the easiest way to define sapient intelligence in d20 in a mechanics sense.
>>48189526
Pretty sure the kangaroo just kills you if you try to box it seriously.
>>48189583
Fucking bullshit monster races arbitrarily more powerful than the rest of us instead of working for features
Where are the rules for Athanatism?
>>48189632
Your power is the higher level cap.
>>48189636
Don't believe in a god, easy.
>>48189636
Athanatism can be found in Psionics Augmented: Seventh Path:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/w7a5o8
It is a very strangely-balanced discipline. On one hand, a large portion of its powers are useless in the majority of scenarios, since they are only useful against incorporeal creatures.
On the other hand, Bring Forth the Soul (conduit 2) can force the soul of a dead creature to return, answer questions, and possibly be destroyed by the manifester forever. Corporeal Haunt (dread 3 and psion/wilder 4) can create eternally-lasting, powerful haunts that the manifester is immune to, including Ghastly Whispers. Moan of the Sorrowful Dead (dread 2, psion/wilder 3, and psychic warrior 3) is one of the best psionic save-or-lose powers available, forcing a 10-foot-radius of enemies to flee.
The conduit discipline's class features are also poorly-worded, roughly on par with Psionics Augmented: Psion Focused Disciplines. Hand of the Grave at 14th-level is practically an instant loss against most enemies, and the Straddling Both Worlds comes at 1st-level by RAW rather than 20th-level as it is supposed to. (That is a new one for you, Gareth.)
A few other issues with Seventh Path have been brought up here:
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43962389/#43962651
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43962389/#43962657
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43962389/#43962761
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43962389/#43963043
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43962389/#43963499
https://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43962389/#43963703
I've a question about the trove on Mega - I know this isn't /g/ but I could use a hand. Trying to download it in chrome gives me an error saying it ran out of html5 offline storage. Cleared the cache and that didn't help either.
Tried again with firefox with the Mega addon, but it crapped out at 85% converted on a 500kbps connection after rejecting the addon for some reason.
So, those of you on Chrome/Edge, how did you do it?
>>48189200
Just pick a brawler, step it up.
>>48189252
He's a hack and a faggot complainer.
From what I've seen he doesn't even know how to GM.
>>48189557
How about we stick with "Intelligent beings with a recognizably humanoid shape"?
>>48189857
Whoa, whoa, explain yourself.
>>48189107
that am barbarian build can have a pouncing horse or whatever
>>48189757
Your google-fu is weak, grasshopper
>ok, i tried all of these things and none of them worked, but i figured out something on my own. when you download something thru mega it puts it into a special folder on your hard-drive that can be deleted by navigating to it. if you are downloading multiple large files, it doesn't always delete the old one when you move on to the next and you will run out of space. combine that with the steps from the other commenter about deleting the cookie and you should be golden.
>for me the file was saved to
>c:\Users[username]\AppData\local\google\chrome\user data\default\file system\005\p\00
>(your location may vary slightly, i don't know, dig around in this area till you find the huge file clogging your system and that will be your folder)
>if you are running out of space it is probably a large file, while the file in this folder will not have the same name as the file you are downloading, the size should be the dead giveaway, delete it and continue your massive downloads :)
>(unless your single download is too big, then you'll need the app)
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/MEGA/comments/3aalif/out_of_html5_offline_storage_space/
>>48189757
Download it folder by folder, rather than all at once. That's the issue.
>>48190043
>>48190075
All right, thanks anons.
>>48189060
I'm about to play a Pathfinder game and wanna try out a druid, but I'm really new to the game system, so I've a few questions regarding them:
1) Is a shapeshifting specialized druid viable? (Think 4e druid paragon path or the WoW feral type)
2) Are druids a gamebreaking class? (I've heard about this being a general problem with casters in Pathfinder.)
Pic related would be fun as fuck to play as a druid, though not sure how to make the evil alignment thing work with one (let's be honest, anything that looks like that is NOT there to tuck you in before bedtime.)
>>48189857
And you've witnessed this have you?
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/silent-kill-combat
>You are quite adept at killing your prey without making noise or alerting others.
>Prerequisite(s): Stealth 12 ranks; assassinate advanced slayer talent or ninja master trick.
>Benefit: When you kill a creature during a surprise round, you can attempt a Stealth check, opposed by the Perception checks of potential observers, to prevent them from noticing your action and subsequently identifying you as the assailant.
Friendly reminder that you need to be a high-level ninja or slayer and take a feat to kill people stealthily.
>>48190164
Or be a Sussatore from DSP, which while a cool ability, I don't really get why it's locked into a PRC.
Silent Blade (Su): The presence of the sussurratore
muffles the sounds of any battle in which they par-
ticipate, stifling the normal ring and din of combat.
When the sussurratore rolls initiative (or after the
surprise round, if there is one), she may also make a
Stealth check. Creatures not in combat with her must
succeed at a Perception check (DC equal to the sussur-
ratore’s Stealth check) in order to hear the sounds of
the battle, applying the usual penalties for distance
or distraction. This replaces the usual DC to hear the
sounds of battle. This ability muffles the sounds of
battle within medium range (100 ft. plus 10 ft. per
class level) of the sussurratore; combat outside of this
range may be heard normally.
>>48190164
Or a Rogue. Which does kind of cover all the sneaky kill options, a raging 2H Barbarian isn't exactly the most subtle thing in a room.
>>48190164
Oh, don't forget, you still have to deal with literally all the normal penalties that you'd face with this check. The feat doesn't eliminate those at all. They're still in full effect.
AKA: It's a feat that requires 12th level and does literally nothing, AND has restrictive requirements for it doing said nothing.
>>48189857
Citation needed.
>>48189857
>>48189983
>>48190159
>>48190248
He's right, don't you want to be in 2hu's weeb Planescape games instead?
Alright friends, need an idea.
I've been playing an Inquisitor that is hunting a bloodmage from his homeland. The DM wants to make him a boss, and we're thinking a bloodrager would be good. What bloodline would you suggest to have on him for a party of 8 level 3s to fight?
>>48190289
Do you want him to be good or an inconvenience for the party? Abberant could be interesting because it can get a goat with a feat and it gets reach. Arcane is actually good.
Have any of you played, or played with an intelligent undead PC? What was it like? Did you get around the inherently evil thing or roll with it?
>>48190296
Well, he's not the main villain (got his powers from the Big Bad) but he's responsible for everything we've had to deal with so far (demon wolves, bandits turning into giant abominations, a party member being sacrificed for some ritual) so we think he needs to be a challenge.
>>48190289
Go look up the old 3.5 book Encyclopedia Arcane Blood Magic. It's got decent, if somewhat potentially high power, options for blood magic.
>>48190279
If I had time, hell yes. I want a good lighthearted romp through autistically crafted combat encounters and progressing through bizzare social encountersand molesting fluffy tail.
>>48190289
>8 level 3's against a single bloodrager
Prepare for a boring encounter that will without a doubt be a one-sided roflstomp.
>>48190366
I hope you like absolutely strict, unfliching, autistic and incorrect assumptions about how rules work!
How mean-spirited would it be to use this to distort the party high-Knowledge character's "recollected knowledge" of an NPC?
Lords of the Night, page 53:
>MYRA’S OCCULTATION
>Discipline: Telepathy [mind-affecting]
>Level: cryptic 2, dread 2, psion/wilder 3, tactician 3
>Display: None
>Manifesting Time: 1 standard action
>Range: Personal
>Target: You
>Duration: 1 hour/level (D)
>Saving Throw None Power Resistance No
>Power Points: cryptic 3, dread 3, psion/wilder 5, tactician 5
>You distort the way others perceive and remember you, making it hard for creatures to recall knowledge of you and your kind. Creatures attempting Knowledge checks to identify you and your traits (such as abilities or weaknesses) suffer a -4 penalty to do so. This does not affect Knowledge checks made to research you or information related to you (such as at a public library) or other forms of information-gathering related to you (such as Sense Motive or Diplomacy checks). Creatures that fail Knowledge checks to identify you and your traits learn false information instead of learning nothing.
>Augment: You may augment this power in the following ways:
>1. For every additional power point you spend, the penalty to Knowledge checks increases by 2.
>2. If you spend 2 additional power points, you may determine the form of misinformation learned by creatures failing their Knowledge checks.
A 8th-level cryptic or dread with this and Overchannel can spend 3 + 5 + 2 = 10 power points to impose a -14 penalty on Knowledge checks to and dictate the type of disinformation any hapless Knowledge-users receive.
>>48190372
We fully expect some people to die by the time we make it to him.
>>48190164
I think the assumption is that you can do it even if you don't have cover or concealment. Like hide in plain sight except it works for both you and the dude you killed.
>>48190279
No, really, why do you think that?
>>48189107
>>can't pounce
Fuck you, my horse is a 10th level Barbarian.
>>48190373
So like most GMs but with more fluffy tails, then?
Dungeoncrasher reworded for pathfinder, yes or very yes?
>>48190462
Extreme amounts of yes.
[Yes Intensifies]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
>>48190462
>Take dungeoncrasher as is exactly
>Still works
Mm. that was hard.
>>48190469
>>48190478
What other feats are excellent?
>>48190478
Fuck a cactus.
>>48190374
For that matter, it would also work on characters with mediocre Knowledge modifiers. Upon meeting the occulted psionicist, they could be asked to make Knowledge checks to see what they know about said psionicists, and then promptly receive DC 10 "common knowledge" that is actually distorted disinformation.
>>48190366
I am not skilled at crafting combat encounters in Pathfinder at all. I was always far more capable of doing so in D&D 4e, wherein I had honed the art of "each major encounter brings the party to the jaws of defeat, only for the characters to subsequently achieve a heroic comeback."
I try to build Pathfinder combat encounters on behalf a Planescape-running GM and have taken to giving monsters counters or counter-equivalents (e.g. dragons with Emergency Force Sphere), but I am still not confident in the mechanical integrity of these battles.
I have never single-handedly GMed Pathfinder in the past. I do plan on GMing Pathfinder in the immediate future, using a heavily modified, expanded, one-on-one version of the "Temple of Empyreal Enlightenment" premade scenario. I would offer to run it for others one-on-one, but since I am tailoring this adventure for a lone 8th-level wizard at heavy optimization, anyone else would have to build a similarly high-powered character, and that is too much to ask for a brief adventure.
>>48190454
The image in >>48190279 is not a good representation of my tokens. MapTool looks quite swell when zoomed-in but poor when zoomed out. This is what one of my full-resolution tokens would look like.
>>48190151
>Is a shapeshifting specialized druid viable? (Think 4e druid paragon path or the WoW feral type)
>Pic related would be fun as fuck to play as a druid
Do you have access to 3rd party material? Because Spheres of Power's Shifter class would probably be the best option for pic related if so. Druids have to pick an animal and be that animal, Shifters (and anyone with the Alteration sphere, really, including the Druid archetype that gains Sphere casting... but Shifters do it best) get to pick and choose different traits and body parts and so on.
>>48190491
Reword it for pathfinder then fuck yourself, buddy.
I think "Butthurt Resistance" is an excellent feat for you
>>48190534
But bring butthurt is your favorite pasttime.
Won't reword it, stop smearing yourself with shit.
>>48190560
>But bring butthurt is your favorite pasttime.
Wow. So butthurt you can't even type. Why don't you lay down...on your stomach of course.
>>48190596
Don't tell me how to lie down or how to type! I'll type with my butt if I wnt to argyjgg gbxkdfj it tb
>>48190596
You're not my real mom!
>>48189473
Did you mean to post the necromancer?
>>48190164
This is more for "killing people while passing in the street"
>>48190926
It also works while killing people from range, since other enemies wouldn't realize that combat has started.
>>48190926
It's more for "Non-functional feat, AKA the new Lunge or Prone Shooter"
>>48190954
>lunge
>non-functional
>>48190963
My bad, I mean this: http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/monkey-lunge-combat
>Standard Action
>To the end of your turn
>You need either a Standard/Full Action to attack
>Using this feat means that you can't attack
>It's literally a feat that does nothing, and actively makes you worse for having taken it
>Literally six fucking years old and there isn't errata for it
>>48190998
Yes, Monkey Lunge is useless. Prone Shooter /was/ useless, but has since been errata'd to do something. I don't even know why people keep bringing that up, it was changed in fucking 2014.
>>48191042
Because it's still shiiiiiit.
>>48190180
I mean, that's a bit different. That means you can have a normal battle that's very difficult to hear instead of the usual -10 perception DC. It's like creating a bubble of noise cancellation for outside observers.
>>48191054
Yeah, but it's not non-functional.
>>48191056
I mean, the Sussatore's thing actually, y'know, works. It removes the penalty. Silent Killer doesn't, doesn't give you the ability to Stealth without Cover/Concealment, and does literally nothing because of it.
>>48191063
Is it an option you can take?
Yes?
Is it an option that's worthwhile, ever?
No.
Is the intention of feats/traits supposed to be that there's a reasonable amount of benefit from them, which you can access either a good portion of the time for decent benefit, or more rarely for more benefit?
Yes.
Does that feat do either of those?
No.
That's why it's non-functional.
>>48191083
And going by how /pfg/ rates feats, that means just about everything that isn't Power Attack is non-functional.
>>48191114
I mean, literally like 90-95% of the feats in PF are worthless. It's got bloat just like 3.5 did, just like every big system does.
But that 5-10% varies from "Okay, it's decent" to "Sacred Geometry"
>>48191138
Actually, what ARE the most useless feats in the game? I have a character with a ton of extra space so I might as well fill it.
Zootopia Anon here. Glad I got your help, the group asked to move the first game up to today, the kids are eager to play. Game start for Session 0 and the start of the first mission will be in 3 hours, story time to follow
>>48191290
Nice, looking forward to it.
>>48191144
Would like to know too.
>>48191144
COMBAT CASTING
>>48189857
What... Is GMing then? I've played with him, he does decently.
>>48191347
+4 to concentration is terrible?
>>48191379
Why would you ever be in a position where you even need a concentration check?
>>48191379
Do the munchkin moonwalk instead. Problem solved in most cases.
How do I obtain a fabulous adamantine coffin as a vampire?
>>48191347
Full casters should get the fuck out, the magus/warpriest however should get something beneficial.
>>48191144
Elephant stomp I think?
>>48191114
>And going by how /pfg/ rates feats, that means just about everything that isn't Power Attack is non-functional.
That just proves that /pfg/ has at least two brain cells to rub together. The vast majority of PF feats are absolute dreck and many are bad enough to be hardly worth the effort of writing them on your character sheet.
Alright. Gareth promised there would be recaps of his sessions for his new game and I drew the straw for the first session. Apologies if I don’t tell the story well.
First, let the actors take the stage. All veterans of Ebberon’s Last War in some way or another. All about to be haunted by it’s shadow again.
Gwen Arendt - Aasimar Knight Chandler: A daughter of Aundair Puritans, she avoided military conflict during the last war. She did, however, experience serious hatred by her countrymen for her religion by her countrymen and saw her share of back alley fights. Now a student at Arcanix and hopeful for the Knights Arcane.
Araceli - Ethumion Ravenlord: A young Cyran patriot, determined to do her best for queen and country. She survived the mourning by being on the Valenar front. The Mourning shattered her as deeply as her country, spinning off all her negativity and despair into her Raven.
Ginny - Human Hunter: A Thranish war beast trainer during the last war, she has now lost her business and been forced to turn to adventuring to make ends meet. Followed by a mutant wolf, Tonn, that she was never able to make obey anyone else.
Irisie Vitraille - Elf Shattered Mind Occultist: An Audiar elf who failed at all she attempted during the war. She lacked skill in the arcane, the divine would not speak with her and her mind lacked the discipline to call upon psionic power; she never managed to complete any of the training she attempted until she tried to meld them each in turn...just in time for the war to end. Haunted by the fact she never managed to help anyone during the war.
Gwynne - Silver Dragon Hatchling: The adopted daughter of Breland adventurers who found her egg, she has set off on adventure to help her parents afford a new home after their last home was burned to the ground during the Last War. Her parents have no idea where she has gone.
>>48191387
While grappled or after an enemy moves adjacent to you, and you want to cast without provoking? Not everyone plays an Arcanist with their bullshit "teleport as a 5-foot step" ability.
>>48191413
Our scene opens with the clatter and crackle of a lightning rail. Each member of the group has been hired in Sharn for an adventuring job, to help clear out an old mansion. It’s so late that it’s nearly morning but few are sleeping right now.
Gwynne is in her usual form of an elven young teenager and getting tired of being cooped up for hours, Irisie and Gwyn are reading books, Araceli is staring out a window and Tonn is in a staring contest with Gwynne while his owner naps. The only other person in the carriage is a Warforged in heavy robes.
“Are we there yet? Gwynne asks for the mind-shatteringly nth time.
Gwyn rolls her eyes as the mystic takes notes from her textbook. “No, we are not. You could go for a walk down the train if you are bored.”
Morning mist is starting to rise up about the train as the Warforged does a close approximation of clearing his throat, interrupting an oft-repeated talk about boredom.
“Do you mind if I open the window?”
Ginny blearily opens her eyes and looks about. “Yeah, go ahead and open one.” She slurrs as the wolf breaks the staring contest and heads back to his mistress.
The warforged opens the window, letting in the warm night breeze. Outside, the mist continues to rise, well beyond where normal fog belongs. The warforged stands and opens the door into the next cabin. He pauses, as he steps through, and turns back with something like regret. "Forgive me," he murmurs, before he shuts the door. At the open window, the mist begins to trail into the car…
>>48189060
Actually, what does a dragon get from a rider? I mean, it's already a fucking dragon. One lance or one girl firing arrows isn't going to make that much of a difference, and you won't be able to hit shit with a sword.
I always thought it's only young dragons who let guys ride them into battle, because it's the equivalent of going on a kegger with your bro and getting blackout drunk.
> "Dude, we're so fucking awesome!"
> "Yeah, bro! FUCK YEAH!"
>>48191418
Gwyn shrugs and returns to her book as Ginny and Gywnne start to worry, the former going for the door as the latter freaks out at the sudden mist. Araceli just thinks that warforged are funny in the head.
The mist through the open window - higher than it has any right to be - billows and expands into the train car. In moments, it has swallowed the small space, turning vision into an empty whiteness. Sound muffles, turning even the rattle of the tracks and the sway of the train into a distant memory. The door that was so firm beneath Ginny's fingers just a moment before feels like a phantom, something she's not sure is there, and even the smells are gone. Stillness reigns.
As people fumble through the fog, trying to find each other the train lurches hard and people stumble. The fog starts to clear and it soon becomes obvious that the train they are all standing in is not the one they were in a moment ago. The furnishings are spartan and almost bare - more courtesy than comfort - and filled with supplies. Salted beef, whiskey, medical supplies and such. What’s more, they have company.
A trio of lightly armoured men with hatchets, alchemical fire and white tabards with an orange flame on it are with them.
The leader of them curses. "There weren't supposed to be bloody guards. Where'd you come from?"
Gwynne looks about in confusion “Where'd we come from? Where'd YOU come from? What the hell happened to our train? And where'd that walking tin can go? I'm gonna give him a piece of my mind."
The men look at one another, then at the group. The one in the lead growls a curse. "Fuck this. Blow the whiskey crates, we'll all burn together." The two men flanking him reach for for their alchemical fire…
Gwyn is quicker on the draw than they are however. She draws her blade in a smooth motion and lashes out. The man she goes for has to abandon his alchemical fire in order to manage to parry the electrified blade.
>>48191421
>Actually, what does a dragon get from a rider?
Pleasure. Why do you think there are so many half dragons?
>>48191413
>>48191418
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY as fuck.
Instead of shitting up the thread why don't you use Google docs or something?
>>48191435
WORDSWORDSWORDS
Condense it into greentext. Storytimes-as-prose are awful
>>48191443
You can't making /pfg/ any shittier than it already is.
>>48191413
Gareth is a faggot, if he wants to recap his sessions do it somewhere else and link to it.
Who here really wants to read these walls of text, anyway?
>>48191421
There's some rule where your reach is the same length regardless of your mount's size, but attacks can be made from any square your mount occupies. So a Medium creature riding a Gargantuan mount can attack any square adjacent to his mount instead of only squares his character adjacent to.
>>48191435
Gwyn and Gwynne blanch and the latter loses her lunch out of a nearby window at the sudden gore. This makes Gwynne the first to see something impossible. Rather than the twelve moons of Ebberon in the sky there is a single pale white moon, hanging like a scythe in the sky.
The train rounds a corner as Ginny moves to stabilize the downed terrorists. From the speaking tubes the conductor’s voice echos.
“Final step metrol. final stop. All passengers must disembark. this train is heading to the yard.”
Outside the windows, the scenery has changed but the river the tracks run along is most certainly the Cyre River, and ends in the majesty of Lake Cyre. Ahead, at the edge of the lake, is a skyline that Araceli knows too well. Even at night, Metrol glows with witchlight, and the dull, bitter glow of forges.
A city that has not existed for two years.
The conductor soon joins them, looking over the strange group...and his eyes settling on Araceli and her Cyre colours. Clearly relieved to see a friendly face, he assumes they are supposed to be on the train and some information is quickly gathered. As best as he knows, they are Faithful of the Flame, here to perform terrorist acts. It’s been getting worse every day. These arrivals must be brave Cyre soldiers from the front lines.
The front lines of what, he doesn’t say.
The train, already slowing, begins to pull into a stop. The windows offer the first real look at Metrol, for those who care to see. The arrival platform is near the city's front gate, which is odd enough in itself until the reason why is seen - Metrol has been sealed from within, with a great wall of steel-banded stone that holds the gate shut. The city was once a picture of beauty. Here and there, that beauty remains in the form of bright war murals, depicting the aged but regal face of Queen Dannel ir'Wynarn and the words "For Queen and Country!"
>>48191446
Because there was interest when Gareth mentioned he was running it.
>>48191413
>>48191418
How could you make this boring and annoying?
>>48191462
>Gareth is a faggot
Well he is. Literally-speaking. That's not a very useful sentence.
>Who here wants to read these walls of text
No one. Greentext them, anon. Why are you just copying chat logs
>>48191471
Large sections of the city have been walled off with steel-banded stone, which glows with layers of abjurations that shed light into the populated districts. Soldiers patrol the streets, clad dark greys and blues to blend into the city around them; only their officers fly proud Cyran colors, and most of them have muddied their uniforms so as not to stand out. Even now, the city does not sleep, and its citizens move in huddled groups, heads bowed in focus or mourning. Too many wear black armbands, marking their grief for a lost loved one.
They are met at the platform by Sergeant Triss of the Metrol Watch. Like the conductor, she assumes the group, save Gwynne, are soldiers and Araceli the Officer. She recommends that Araceli change out of her brights before she gets picked off. She believes they have been serving on the Darkon front lines. No one recognises that country by name.
Gwynne is near on the edge of panic at this point, clinging to Ginny. "Picked off? ...Picked off by what?"
"Pick your poison, young lady," Triss answers sadly. "Gangers, renegades, Faithful. Undead. Plain old poor folk who know your coin's good for a meal."
She takes the Faithful off their hands and recommends them an inn. The owner is a patriot who’ll do right by soldiers back from the front lines.
>>48191503
Another new thing they see is that of towers of vertical agriculture. Fruits and vegetables being grown in tall towers. Gwyn guesses this is seige supplies and speaks about the Faithful they encountered. The holy symbols they were all carrying were that of the Silver Flame...but defiled. Painted a dusky red rather than its true colour. No one they’ve spoken to has used the word Silver to describe the faith yet either.
They soon reach the inn where the innkeeper, a maimed giant of a human missing an eye and a hand greets them warmly and quickly shuffles them off to one of the rooms in a surprisingly empty inn. Gwynne soon curls up in a bed with a stuffed bear from her pack while the others take chairs and slowly fall asleep.
Welcome to Ravenloft.
>>48191421
Tactical flexibility. Sure, you could fucking flatten that building the bad guy is in, but what if he's got hostages or you need to capture not kill? Send in the apes.
>>48191503
no one cares.
>>48191503
Guy, if you're gonna bother with this shit, then at least fucking put it in a Pastebin or something. Or make the damn posts longer so you aren't just hardcore spamming.
>>48191521
I was interested in a Gareth storytime but I was hoping for something actually worth reading, ala the ones about his other campaigns
Hoping this question doesn't get swallowed up by the walls of text and the ensuing argument, but since I didn't get an answer last time I'm going to post it again.
Has there ever been any PF depiction of female Hobgoblins yet? All the ones I'm aware of are male, and I need to know what they look like for a character I'm working on.
>>48191450
truer words have never been spoken, well at least until this Gareth fag came in and started shitposting a word for word recap of his session.
Your character is rewarded with a single devoted and loving (or whatever personality you prefer) waifu/husbando, BUT your character has to defeat them in a combat duel first with no prep time. Only one chance.
What do you challenge to be your waifu/husbando?
>>48191533
looks like he's hitting the 2k posting cap for most of these, actually.
Anyone who isn't a moron want to storytime Gareth's game?
Would you play in an adventure path written by Alex Augunas, starring his famous first adventure, A Fox's Wedding?
>>48191591
No.
>>48191591
I'd counter with my own AP "Yiff in Hell".
Why are you all fucking mean to the guy?
>>48191587
It'd be the same stupid shit.
>>48191587
Not especially
>>48191591
Only if it doesn't have any of that atrocious [SPHERES ART]
>>48191587
You would have to be as moronic as the shitposter to actually want to read it.
>>48191623
Gareth-fags don't deserve mercy.
>>48191626
Jacob Blackmon is the [SPHERES ART] guy.
http://prodigyduck.deviantart.com/
This guy is a PROFESSIONAL ARTIST and makes tons of money doing work for RPGs.
>This was drawn for Childhood Adventures by Everyman Gaming, LLC.
Wait, wait, wait, what?
>>48191673
Fucking hell, it isn't even GOOD furry art.
>>48191673
HOL UP HOL UP HOL UP.
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/185078/Childhood-Adventures
>Explore new sites, battle powerful foes, and find fantastic treasures all before bedtime using Childhood Adventures, by Everyman Gaming, LLC. Designed for the Pathfinder Roleplaying Game, Childhood Adventures helps players and GMs tell fantastic tales featuring young characters.
>Expanded age category rules, allowing you to create young characters for every race and creature type.
>Aging and Growth, a new system for determining the rate at which specific, individual characters grow and mature.
>Rules for aging effects, allowing you to make your PCs and NPCs older and younger via magical effects.
>Publisher’s Note: Childhood Adventures includes a number of essays designed to help GMs address adult situations in Roleplaying Games. While these sections aren’t graphic in presentation, they deal with mature content and as a result, parts of Childhood Adventures may not appropriate for younger readers. Parents are advised to read Childhood Adventures to formulate their own opinions before handing it off to a younger reader.
So this book.
This fucking book.
This fucking book is all about playing kids. It also has "mature content." It has a spell called "Reverse Age Swap" that shows two kitsune affected by it.
There's a snout-kitsune on the cover.
D-D-Does anyone want to bite the bullet and share this?
I gave my players a " small knife" that detected as extremely magical, and when held, the sense that "the knife can kill anything" comes to the wielder. I was going to have it be a joke item, standard 1d4 damage weapon... but my players are afraid of using it, and sort of in awe of it. As if it might be an artifact.
So, what should my slaying knife actually do? Any suggestions?
>>48191710
When used to kill someone, it immediately reincarnates the target's soul somewhere, rather than letting them pass to the afterlife or otherwise letting them be rezzed.
>>48191698
http://paizo.com/products/btpy9n2t?Childhood-Adventures
>Authors: Alexander Augunas, BJ Hensley, Andrew Marlowe, Monica Marlowe
Would anyone like to invite Alex Augunas to /pfg/ for Q&A?
>>48191710
Make it cursed, it inflicts a geas on the wielder to kill something with it.
>>48191710
Encourage their paranoia. Make it do nothing obvious. Then let them hear rumours about someone(or someTHING) looking for a knife fitting its description, and perhaps even offering a high reward for it.
>>48191698
>>48191741
Emphatically no.
>>48191710
Just make it do 1d4+1 damage like a normal magic knife. It CAN kill anything, but then again so can a sword, or a club. Most of the magic they're detecting is the false message.
>>48191741
>Would anyone like to invite Alex Augunas to /pfg/ for Q&A?
nah, I'd say its a bit too soon to lynch him just yet. Lets just look at this book and the fur book first.
>>48191710
When it does kill someone, they immediately turn into a pile of dust
>>48191747
Do I detect a Slayers reference?
>>48191755
Do you not want autistically detailed rules on EXACTLY how aging through childhood works?
>>48191730
>party member is stabbed with knife
>thus begins the quest to find their friend and free his soul
>hey guys this form is rather nice and l kinda like it here
>*stab*
>>48191778
Potentially...I've never watched Slayers but Lina is my favorite dota hero.
>>48191698
From the preview:
>For instance, if Kyr’shin, an Adult kitsune, is mentally regressed into an Infant, he modifies his mental ability scores with the aging modifiers associated with the Infant age category (–6 Int, –8 Wis, –6 Cha) and he gains the physical traits and mental traits associated with his new age category, making moving and performing actions nearly impossible.
This HAS to be Augunas' fetish. It has to be.
Kyr’shin is the horrendously optimized kitsune cavalier from the "A Fox's Wedding" pregens.
Is Augunas a babyfur?
>>48191650
Sharing stories about game isn't uncommon here. It's far less common than people complaining about being without game
>>48191548
Example from a Pathfinder Tale, bear in mind Paizo and it's artists can't decide if Hobgoblins are supposed to be hairless or not.
>>48191830
I'm okay with that hobgoblin type, much better than their goblins
>>48191830
>literally looks just like a half-orc
W H Y
H
Y
It looks nothing like the male Hobs. Dafuq is the Blizzard Syndrome?
Do you guys think Jacob Blackmon, the artist, is "in" on Augunas' furry (and now babyfur?) tendencies?
>>48191862
Christ that's ugly.
>>48191852
I disagree, she's just not bald.
>>48191862
Jesus...
>>48191862
They totally go to furpiles together
>>48191870
And a less flattering image.
>>48191789
>>48191862
Why the fuck are you doing this? What have we done to deserve this hell?
>>48191730
>>48191747
>>48191751
>>48191761
>>48191778
>>48191799
So the consensus is... it slays/dusts the victim, reincarnates the victim, and geas's the wielder... so a double cursed knife of badassedry.
>>48191891
I mean, yeah even critters of the same species can still look different.
What really freaks me out here is the "human hair" on the kitsune on the right.
Do you think the two "humans" are just kitsune in human form?
>>48191870
You know, that's actually a perfect image for my Char. Thanks anon.
>>48191891
>less flattering
I dunno... I'd probably add her to my fantasy rape cave.
>>48191943
Was Cha dumped savagely?
>>48191673
Why did Blackmon have to draw a bulge on the one on the right?
>>48191954
>>48189252
I'm always taking critique if you've got it on offer.
>>48189857
See above.
>>48191443
>>48191446
This just confuses me. I'll admit that I'd been expecting greentext myself but I know I've seen prose storytime here before.
>>48191462
>>48191551
>>48191638
>>48191650
Anon, do you wanna express what in the flaming fuck your problem is?
>>48191547
....Vhat?
>>48191954
Are you playing a dolphin themed skinwalker?
>>48191986
>....Vhat?
Greentext. Amusing. Fun. Not autistic WORDSWORDSWORDS
>>48189087
It's certainly the sexist mount.
>>48191942
>What really freaks me out here is the "human hair" on the kitsune
In my opinion, this is one of the biggest problems with furry art. Even more so if its neon colored.
>>48191963
Nah, she just hides her face under a full helm and relies on her skill at both commanding the battlefield and convincing people she is neither a Hob nor a Girl.
Was originally planning on making her a Pally, but I'm currently considering making her a Warlord or Zealot instead
>>48191986
>This just confuses me. I'll admit that I'd been expecting greentext myself but I know I've seen prose storytime here before.
My bad. My experience with Storytime is Shadowrun storytime, so I assumed prose.
>>48191995
Okay, for a minute there I'd interpreted the "other campaigns" comment a bit differently and thus been confused.
>>48191673
>>48191964
Not just a bulge, but a "line between dick and balls" bulge.
Just fuck my shit up senpai.
>>48192018
Yeah, that's how I interpreted it.
>>48192021
This one is from, uh "Dynasty Races" by Augunas.
At least Blood of the Beast will have someone OTHER than Blackmon for art... right?
>>48192095
*Dynastic Races
>>48191986
Shouldn't you be sleeping?
>>48192095
>>48192105
You really have to hand it to Augunas and Blackmon.
They reused art for the child and toddler kitsune in Dynastic Races.
>>48191986
That's because of how it was written out, Gareth. Greentext works because it's simple, gets to the point, and is short. Longer stories work because they only really include the relevant, key bits, and they try to properly tell a story with it. Shadowrun Storytime is a good example of this. It worked really well.
Like, the campaign itself might be fine, but whoever wrote up the storytime needs to work on their shit.
>>48192120
Just woke up.
>>48192127
Thank you, that's actually kinda helpful. I'll pass it along to the recap player.
>A character whose size suddenly changes becomes entangled if she is wearing any clothing, armor, or gear that doesn’t adjust to her new size. This condition lasts until all such items are removed from her person. Additionally, if she became larger than her clothing, armor, or gear’s intended size, every such item that she is wearing gains the broken condition. Magical clothing, armor, and gear gains a DC 10 Fortitude save to avoid breaking.
>If a character’s size is reduced or increased by two or more size categories, any clothing, armor, and gear that she was wearing fall to the ground in her space. If her size is reduced, objects she is holding also fall to the ground if her new size category is too small for her to be able to lift them. If her size is increased, any clothing, armor, or worn gear that she is wearing whose intended size is smaller than her new size category that she is wearing is immediately reduced to 0 hp and destroyed. Magical clothing, armor, and gear gains a DC 20 Fortitude save to instead gain the broken condition.
Jeez, this is really "fuck you," isn't it?
Hey /pfg/ I'm working on an archetype thing for a class that specializes in all manner of Flail group weapons, from whips to chains, and I've hit a bit of a snag
I'm currently trying to replace a 19th level ability with something else, and I need help on what the big end level "CUHRAZAY" ability should be. Any ideas?
>>48192125
>>48192169
Please, for all our sakes, stop this madness.
>>48192169
This is just like one of my Japanese animes!
>>48192154
They tried, which is good, and they didn't really do BAD exactly, but if they want some examples, here: https://i.yuki.la/tg/1457296432696.pdf
It's a FUCKING GREAT story on it's own, but it's also a good example of how to do this sorta thing well. You can also find it on sup/tg/, or via Google.
>>48192127
Person who wrote the recap here.
How could I have improved it? I was trying to cut out the chaff of the session and mostly focus on the important stuff rather than just characters chatting.
Though I did misinterpret what I was asked to do. I didn't think Storytime = Greentext and instead went to Shadowrun Storytime. Mostly because I didn't know how I'd really greentext atmospheric horror.
>>48191673
>>48191862
>>48191942
>>48192095
>>48192125
>>48192169
I'm going to kill myself and it's all your fault.
>>48192205
See the post above you, and this, for good examples of how to do this sort of things: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive.html?tags=shadowrun%20storytime
so /pfg/ i want to be stealthy and roguish but also use a bow and kill people from the shadows with incredible accuracy, but i want to augment that by also being able to use magic to support myself with invisibility and utility spells.
Which class should i be aiming for?
What will it take to make Augunas /pfg/'s new waifu?
>>48192223
Yeah, I've read Shadowrun storytime and was trying for something closer to it.
I think part of the issue is that there has been only one session so far and the prose format doesn't work so well with only one session. See the aforementioned screwup on what was meant by 'Doing storytime for it'.
A few sessions might have given me the material to actually work with/more stuff I could easily cut as chaff.
Thanks for being polite about it, I don't have much experience with this.
>>48192282
Gareth telling us to.
>>48192282
Nuking the site from orbit.
Calling repeated Exterminatus strikes.
>>48192282
It's impossible he's already acrued too much bad will.
Why do you think /pfg/ didn't immediately start waifuing 2hu after learning she's a grill.
>>48192278
Stygian Slayer might work, or some kind of Stalker with Tempest Gale
>>48192282
Him coming out of the fur closet, then letting us viciously and metaphorically sodomizing him for his faggotry
>>48192287
It's alright man, don't worry too much about it. Failure means learning and gaining experience. If it's a short campaign, then do shortish greentext stuff, and include funny/important/exciting bits.
>>48192278
Skyrim
>>48192291
But you all seem to hate his campaigns.
>>48192299
>she's a grill
100% sure it's a trans.
>>48192299
>2hu after learning she's a grill.
She is? I just assumed she was some kind of alien hive amalgamate entity working under an incomprehensible mindset
>>48192324
About 20% of /pfg/ers are trans tbf.
>>48192324
>>48192328
>>48192332
Never got confirmation on this shit.
2hu just posted in this thread earlier senpai.
Would anyone care who Augunas is until he puts on the muzzle?
>>48192324
Does it matter either way?
>>48192278
Slayer. Take the Minor and Major Magic talents for prestidigitation at will and Vanish 1/day per point of int bonus. If you need more magic, take the Voice of Monsters Trait, so you can cast a 3rd level bard spell and then you can prestige into Arcane Archer.
>>48190190
>Penalties to one of the most easily boosted skills in the game make it unusable
Okay. But then again, you're not making a stealth check to hide so what penalties apply?
>>48190289
Destined bloodline is hella good for a bloodrager. Makes for good fluff for the fight as well.
>>48192418
You're making a stealth check, and the penalties aren't on YOU, they're on the DC YOU SET under the Perception rules.
>>48192455
I'm looking at the perception DC table now. So possibly favourable conditions for a -2 penalty to the DC? 'Does literally nothing' makes me think some actual significant penalties.
If there's some massive penalty I'm missing, please fill me in, 'cause it's not on the table.
>>48192499
You're in a fight.
That's battle.
Look at the top of the table.
>>48192530
That's the example DC it normally takes to just hear a battle going on. Note how above the column containing that -10 it states 'perception DC' not 'perception DC modifiers'. The feat requires them to beat an opposed stealth check instead to notice it, modified by any appropriate modifiers on the 'perception modifiers' part of the table.
tl;dr the -10 isn't a modifier one takes whenever one is in a battle, it's the DC to hear a battle going on in the first place, which the feat overrides ("...to prevent them from noticing your action and subsequently identifying you as the assailant.")
Akashit Mysteries PDF when?
>>48192602
Oh shush
>>48192299
Anon, you're assuming this didn't just change our mental image of him from Chris-chan to 'Christine' Weston Chandler
>>48192602
Never, if we're lucky. It needs to be remade. Seriously, DSP. Kill the project and wait until it's redone better. If you publish it like it is, it IS going to kill you.
>>48192303
Does he really need to come out of the furry closet if it's already obvious to everyone?
>>48192628
But we already have PDFs for the vizier, guru, AND daevic, and the vizier is on the d20PFSRD.
>>48192656
They can be removed.
How good is Craft Wondrous Item?
And do I need to be the CL of the item to craft it?
>>48192628
I really don't understand this view. Its a collection of really great T3 classes. Does every veil have to become as strong as Haste to be worthwhile?
>>48192710
The CL you need is listed in the crafting prerequisites of the item. If no CL is listed, you don't need a specific CL.
>>48192721
so if I don't meet it as a prerequisite it adds +5 to the DC, right?
and if I don't have the spell for the item that is another +5.
>>48192721
>T3 classes
Lol?
>>48192721
>I really don't understand this view. Its a collection of really great T3 classes. Does every veil have to become as strong as Haste to be worthwhile?
They should be all at roughly an even power level and the base veils should all be useful even without a slot to assign them as you won't have most of those slots for a long time.
Right now it suffers heavily from 'You need to know the exact right choices to make to be worthwhile'
Are there any magic items that will make a skill monkey useful in combat? Not for attack rolls, but something to do.
I essentially do nothing besides utility (I took no offensive spells) and my PCs give me flak for it.
>>48192721
>>48192753
Guru and vizier are low tier 3, daevic is high tier 4.
You basically need to jigsaw puzzle the fuck out of them to make them good though.
>>48192753
Pathfinder is absolutely filled with trap options and i would consider Akashic Mysteries a fucking plus compared to base PF since at least its veils are situationally useful or become useful. If someone is playing Pathfinder today and honestly can't handle building a character in Akashic Mysteries i have no clue how they would build any other DSP class. I'd consider the skill floor for Dreads, Vitalists, The POW expanded classes and nearly all of the recent Paizo classes as much higher.
If you can play a Wizard and not pick acid arrow you are smart enough to play Akashic Mysteries.
That said veil buffs would not be a bad thing in a couple of cases.
>>48191710
Bypasses all damage reduction. It can kill anything, but it might take a while.
>>48192710
>How good is Craft Wondrous Item?
Depends on how easily you can acquire specific magic items, can you craft custom items, can you otherwise acquire custom items, how does your GM rule crafting feats interact with WBL and how much downtime you have. Generally it's pretty good, but if you can get any item you want from the nearest magic mart and can't craft custom items or if you just don't get enough downtime to do any significant crafting, it's not very valuable.
>>48192172
It doesn't matter, real campaigns don't make it to level 19.
>>48193012
I'm really not sure on most of that.
We are playing Rise of the Runelords and a convenient magic mart popped up that will sell anything.
We likely can't craft custom items either, and downtime has been minimal so far.
I figured Craft Wondrous Item would just essentially double my gold (I've saved up 5k at 5th level).
