VROOM VROOM GOBLINS edition
Old thread: >>48147238
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>order a bunch of stuff for an artifact deck last night
>forget the goddamn Clock of Omens and Myr Turbine
I need to stop doing late-night orders.
I bought my Serra's Sanctum for $34 just a while back
>retarded bullshit like Rainbow Vale is on the RL
kek
>>48159288
I really should too, I buy entire decks but forget the 1 card my other deck could use.
>>48159339
I think I was both tired and freaking out that the 5 cent Metalworker order went through
>>48159357
I'm seeing $30 scapeshifts and wonder if I should just rebuild my fave commnader and just slowly save up for that crucible, the gaeas cradles are all fucking gone I imagine.
>>48159263
How viable are goblins as a strategy, I'm thinking of making a goblin deck with Krenko, anyone who has one can give me a few pointers?
>>48159292
yea buy outs are a everywhere now.
>>48159529
Shitsux
Gonna have to just buy a Crucible at this point
>>48159527
its literally purphoros lite kinda, you just make a ton of goblins and burn people out
>>48159263
FUCKING GOBLINS!
>>48159527
I know a guy that had a old fashion Krenko deck, tap him to double the number of goblins on the field version. I would win every long term game that went past 30 minuets, but before that I would lose unless we were playing doubles, also every single time. We would have games where he would have 300,000+ goblins on the field at a time(he also had Door of Destiney and several cards like it to give bonuses for each goblin on the field)ever seen a wave 300,000/300,000 goblins with First strike and trample, its fucking horrifying? I had a LOT of nukes and ways to cycle them back into my deck, Elixir of Immortality is based. By the time we stopped being able to play each other we totaled up the kills I made with nukes and other wide bolt cards. I killed more goblins then Hitler killed jews and Nico Bolas fucked over/killed people, put together.
>>48159791
All this was for shits and giggles, we don't play standard.
What are some essential big creatures in a mono red ramp deck? I'm building one and my top end seems to be just dragons, Blighsteel and the big Eldrazi. I feel like there must be some interesting non-dragon red creatures.
>>48159830
Hamletback?
>>48159830
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/m-u-s-h-r-o-o-m-s-a-m-b-a/
Still looking for suggestions.
>>48159859
Hamletback's a bit too dull for me, but I guess I should take a look at giants.
>>48159527
I'm in the process of making one too. Looks like something to to do direct damage using creatures as a resource like Purphoros or that thing that flings goblins is a great way to win. Can someone remind me of the name?
Akroma's Memorial, Hall of Triumph, Gauntlet of Might, Eldrazi monument are nice if you'd rather have classic combat wins. Then if you're like me and went too far with artifacts, goblin welder is a fantastic one drop.
Finally, ways to recur Krenko's ability.
Umbral mantle, staff of domination, jandor's saddlebags, illusionist bracers, magewright's stone. Thousand year elixir is MVP.
>>48159878
My friend loves that guy. The deck it's in is generally awful, but he's a fun guy to play with anyway
>>48159830
Inferno titan, Malignus, Rapacious , Urbrask
>>48159893
Run more than 10 lands.
Don't run Primal Vigor, it sucks.
Devoted Druid would probably be good in Ghave since you can get around the -1/-1 counters easily.
You might want to consider running some of the Spikes. In particular, Spike Weaver gives you a way to Fog if something like Dosan, the Falling Leaf or Defense Grid is out, and Spike Feeder goes infinite with Archangel of Thune.
>>48159946
>>48159893
Sorry, I didn't realize you were trying to avoid going infinite with this deck. Forget about Archangel then.
You should still run Spike Weaver though, it's a good card.
>>48159946
>Run more than 10 lands
Well, it's just a draft. I'm trying to get the rest of the deck sussed out before I do the landbase so I have the color ratios right.
Spike Feeder/Archangel is already in my lifegain deck, and I dislike overlapping cards (I even more dislike overlapping combos/synergies between multiple cards), so I think I'll leave that out. I might put in Spike Weaver, but I'm trying to keep it as Fungus and Saproling focused as possible, with the remaining creatures mostly just for utility. I'll look into it though.
>>48159928
Urabrask's actually my commander, I can't believe I forgot Inferno Titan though. Rapacious One's interesting too, I'll try and slot him in. Malignus doesn't really interest me though, I'd rather not run creatures that just exist because they're big. At least Blightsteel ignores lifegain decks. I also forgot about Molten Primordial
>>48159009
Well now I don't know who to believe. I'll ask the new thread.
If I make a clone of Humble Defector with Kiki-Jiki and activate the clone, does the opponent sacrifice it at the end of my turn, or keep the clone?
>>48159973
>at least Blightsteel ignores lifegain decks
Malignus kinda does too. It's half as big as their life total, so even if they're at 250 it's gonna knock them down by half. Combine that with any doubling-damage effect like Furnace of Rath and it can one-shot anyone who can't block it.
>>48159995
The delayed trigger that carries the "sacrifice it" instruction is created as your Kiki Jiki's ability resolves. As such, the trigger will be a trigger you control when it fires off. Trigger triggers, goes to resolve, and does nothing because you can't sacrifice a permanent you don't control. If it were something like Mimic Vat, which exiles, it'd still get eaten though.
>>48159973
>>48159973
>Malignus doesn't really interest me though
Clearly you've never killed the table with a single swing of Malignus
I'm thinking of switching my deck from Newzuri to Momir what would be good creatures to add as switch ins like just good stuff?
>>48160013
>>48160028
Well I guess you've sold me on it. I was thinking of making Xenagod at some point too so I should probably pick it up anyway.
>>48160029
>UG goodstuff
Please don't. At least Newzuri has a theme.
>>48160028
I'd use Malignus as a commander if I could. Would be great for voltron but I assume it would be busted as fuck considering the number of double damage effects in red.
>>48160022
Wait, so with ways to recur feldon/kiki jiki you could spam the board with humble defectors? Red group hug? Absolute mad man!
>>48160022
Great, thanks a lot.
>>48160062
Well, you don't need to 'recur' since neither Feldon nor Kiki Jiki die when you use them, but yeah. You could use Kiki Jiki and give away the Copy-Defector every turn and just hand them out to people like candy.
>>48160045
I already did the gay thing last night and made infinite mana and played all my creatures with TnN and locked them out with glen elandra and counterspell.
I might as well just become the thing I hate anon. I won't lie whoever has said UG goodstuff is cancer in these threads is right, then again I shoud've died that game way before I had the chance.
>>48159425
Just buy a fucking proxy and save $345.
>>48160084
That's why I'm gutting my UG Zegana ETB deck and making a Ruric Thar one.
Looking for general feedback on this list. Should I stick with Karametra as commander, or just jam Captain Sisay up there?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/karametras-harvest-festival/
>>48160128
>Eight total Legendaries in the deck
Yeah, Sisay's not that great in that case. Your Legends aren't very silver-bullety, so it wouldn't work as well as you might think.
>>48159328
Cards in RL aren't there because of their power level. For example there's serra angel with echo, can't remember the name, but it's exactly the same card, but 1 generic cheaper.
>>48160194
I mean, some are. There's some cards which technically SHOULD be on the reserve list, but were removed from it because they're awful.
>>48160215
The cards that were removed from the RL were all the commons and uncommons. There was a big outcry to remove them from the RL and Wizards relented.
Looks like Emrakul gotwasted.
>>48160564
>Strictly worse Song of the Dryads
>>48160578
but it pitches to Force of Will
>>48160598
Ah, the Storm Crow factor.
>>48160578
You play Song of the Dryads on a lot of artifacts and enchantments, do you? Rather than, say, exiling or tucking those artifacts anf enchantments and saving Song for their commander?
>>48160564
>Imprisoned in the Moon
That name is terrible.
>>48160564
>Maro claims that Song of the Dryads was a mistake
>Prints it in the other colour without permanent removal
It's OK when blue does it
>>48160618
it's a legitimate strategy
>>48160628
I mostly use it to shut down Planeswalkers or scary creatures, but the option to turn off an Akroma's Memorial or Omniscience does exist.
>>48160643
It was a mistake because "shut that thing off" isn't very green, but it is somewhat blue (Encrust, Ice Cage, Lost in Thought, half of Detain)
>>48160659
but if your opponent has Omniscience out, why would they let your removal spell resolve?
>>48159973
>Malignus doesn't really interest me though, I'd rather not run creatures that just exist because they're big.
So a walking OTK with unpreventable damage doesn't interest you?
I have Malignus in my Xenagod deck, and anon let me tell you, it's cheeky as hell to just one shot somebody out of nowhere. Also Blade of Selves.
>>48159527
I've got a Krenko list made up. I tend to build budget (usually), so I was able to make him for about $200.
There's really only two ways of doing Krenko; full-on goblin tribal attacking, or as >>48159676
said, use Purphoros/impact tremors and direct damage.
Mine is about halfway between the two strategies and it works out great.
Will Kaladesh finally offer us an artifact themed UR commander?
>>48160838
I really hope so. But it's probably going to be terrible.
>>48160838
Well, not her. She's a Planeswalker.
>>48160838
How does she take that gold thing off?
>>48160870
This, artifacts are already very powerful.
>>48160838
I think there will be, but I'm guessing that Wizards won't make its creature type 'artificer'
>>48160900magic
>>48160838
This has to be the most unconformable wardrobe choice ever.
I believe last night I posted about cracking the mono white formula. Well here it is
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gisela-the-broken-fun/
>>48160838
Idk, will it give us a RW Equipment matters Commander that gives us value rather than "Sword dudes get +1/+1"?
>>48161095
I don't believe that Kaladesh will offer much in the way of equipment. While there are a number of equipment cards associated with different planes, I feel that equipment is kind of Mirrodin/Zendikar's bag.
I think Kaladesh will offer us more in the way of "izzet meets esper".
>>48161072
>this deck
Are you trolling m8 this thing is trash?
Im thinking of trying to add some more power to my mikaeus deck.
It's pretty much a very budget zombie deck.
Anyone have any cards that goes good with him?
Any infinite combos?
>>48161253
>Not believing in the power of mono white
You must be an upset mono red fag now knowing your color is the worst for commander
>>48161284
No I believe in the power of mono-white, just not in this trash deck m8.
>>48161072
This is just Soul Sisters. It's not even that good of a Soul Sisters list.
>>48161280
triskelion can go infinite w/ hime
>>48161280
If you're doing zombies, Grimgrin is generally the way to go
>>48161338
Mono B zombies can work with Mikaeus is he's budget
>>48161312
You just don't believe cause it wasn't your idea. Jealousy is to be expected
>>48161330
Pure jealousy right here
>>48161357
(You)
>>48161280
Find ways to give your creatures persist, it combos really well with undying.
>creature with undying dies, comes back with +1/+1
>dies again, persist triggers, comes back with -1/-1
>rinse and repeat
Recursion on creatures with good ETB effects like massacre wurm or Runescarred Demon are where you want to be.
>>48161330
Mostly because it only has one Soul Sister. And also no Serra Ascendant. Or good cards in general. Seriously, I understand some people cobble together decks out of what they have, but Anointer of Champions?
>>48161357
Yeah, I am jealous that your playgroup is stupid enough to fall for this. Do they just not know that Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance exist?
Wait a minute, let me back up, have you actually played this deck against anyone? Like, at all?
>>48161357
>being this delusional
Mono-white is generally the weakest color in EDH. I t benefits far more in 60 card constructed since it relies more upon multiples for incremental advantage.
>>48161072
Isn't Felidar Sovereign banned in EDH
>>48161408
>>48161377
I could just bathe in the tears of you fags right now. There's nothing wrong with admitting you like this deck. But thanks for reminding me about Serra Ascendant, should probably get it
>>48161418
>Have you played this deck against anyone?
Yep and it won 3/5 times. Tested against various commanders and only in 4 man f4a. I'm not going to deny it would probably get destroyed in french
>Do they not know Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance exist?
I don't see why they shouldn't.
>>48161398
>only card able to give creatures persist is a hybrid W/B
dammit...
>>48161462
No
>>48161446
Mono-white can do some really nasty shit though, if you let it
Better as a support color though, I think
>>48161501
Why are you lying on the internet?
>>48161511
Cauldron of Souls.
>Felidar Sovereign and Test of Endurance
Let me guess: it's just a watered down Oloro deck
>>48161511
>Fang skulkin grants black creatures persist for (2)
>Cauldron of Souls gives any number of creatures persist for (t)
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/t-h-e-t-a-l-k-i-n-g-h-e-a-d-s
Taking suggestions, boys and girls.
>>48161562
>Target black creature gains wither until end of turn
>Wither
>>48161280
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mikaeus-extreme-sub-20-budget-edh/
>>48161563
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/t-h-e-t-a-l-k-i-n-g-h-e-a-d-s
First off, you might want 50 more cards.
>>48161573
Woops
>>48161576
>What is a work in progress
>>48161555
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/gisela-the-broken-fun/
You're not even running a fucking Oblivion Ring or Land Tax
>1 wrath effect
Oh you're trolling, nevermind
>>48161501
>I don't see why they shouldn't.
Well if their decks are like yours, then they're clearly retarded.
You know those people who find out about the Sidisi+Ad Nauseam+Zombie Infestation combo and build a deck with those 3 cards and 97 swamps and go "OMG GUYS I BROKE THE FORMAT"? They're better deckbuilders than you.
>>48161555
Yeah pretty much. He's also got sick tech like Helm of the Gods in a deck with 9 total enchantments. He's a true innovator. This guy is the fucking Patrick Chapin of EDH.
>>48161563
Not bad so far, good mix of utility creatures and beaters. Are you going to run Primal Surge as the only non-permanent in the deck?
>>48161072
Yeesh
>>48161630
I considered it and decided against it, mostly because it feels like the "win on the spot or get blown out by a Fog" kind of thing that isn't really that fun to me. It's cute, sure, but the risk is pretty high, and the 'reward' is that the game just ends as it resolves. Not my kind of style.
I'm mostly looking for other good 'spell' creatures like Acidic Slime or Duplicant, things I might not have thought of or that just slipped my mind, as well as more creature-based draw support like Heartwood Storyteller.
>>48159527
Haste enablers and non combat ways to kill with goblins are key
>>48159859
>>48159894
It can be very good if your meta features a lot of token decks.
>>48161574
how to get one of those alters?
>>48161623
>>48161603
>>48161555
>>48161523
Ok I can see everyone is upset I cracked the formula before they could. I'll take the deck down to save you further embarassment
>>48161708
You can usually find them on etsy. Just serach for mikaeus the unhallowed altered art on google
>>48161593
>>48161563
Well, if you'd post complete lists people wouldn't point it out, just like the Ghave deck you were asking for advice on earlier that had 10 lands.
If you're looking for removal, you're doing good so far but you might want to run Caustic Caterpillar and Viridian Zealot so that you can blow up artifacts and enchantments under a Torpor Orb. If you find yourself going wide often, Nullmage Shepherd is also an option. Terastodon is pretty high on the curve but it's probably worth running too.
If you're looking for card advantage, the main thing that you're missing is Regal Force, the green Draw7. Speaking of draw7s, if you don't want to run the red spell-based ones then you should at least run Magus of the Wheel. Fierce Empath and Woodland Bellower, although not strict card advantage per se, are also cards I'm a big fan of since between the two of them they can grab pretty much any utility creature you need.
As for other stuff, Urabrask would probably be good since it gives you a haste outlet other than Xenagos, Seedborn Muse is just generally a good card, especially with stuff like Nullmage Shepherd and Frontier Guide, and you need a lot more ramp than you're running now if you want to be able to cast any of this shit consistently.
Finally, here's two decent Ruric Thar lists from an EDH tournament held by a bunch of faggots. You may want to look at them to get ideas on what to run.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/ruric-thar-rcedh-tournament/
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tw0handtouchs-ruric-thar/
>>48161886
Sure sure- I hadn't gotten to the ramp yet, but good call on the haste enablers. I'll keep the 'pop me to nuke an artifact' cards in mind if anyone starts running Torpor Orb in my area, but right now they're not huge problems.
>>48161915
>>48161886
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/t-h-e-t-a-l-k-i-n-g-h-e-a-d-s/
Alright, here's my "at least it has enough cards" prototype. I used a lot of the 'remaining' slots for ramp-dudes, so let me know if you think I'm too heavy on little rampers, or if there's any big spicy tech I'm missing.
Anyone have any experience with building OG Isperia? I know flying creatures is a must but is there any secret tech I could use?
>>48162113
As usual with combat damage triggers, trample and double strike are also huge helps.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/budget-5-colour-dragons-edh-sub-65/
ayy rate my budget deck
>>48162075
This deck can go big, but I doin't think it has enough to go wide. I would possibly include things like Omnath, Locus of Rage to get a few medium sized token creatures out; it can also be a benefit if you're running cards like wood elves which can fetch out lands to the battlefield.
>>48162113
Favorable Winds, Sprite Noble, Thunderclap Wyvern, Gravitational Shift, Serra Aviary, Magus of the Moat (and Moat if you have a thousand dollars lying around), Stormtide Leviathan, Telepathy, Windreader Sphinx, Medomai the Ageless, Warden of Evos Isle, Archon of Redemption, Pride of the Clouds, Archetype of Imagination
>>48162155
Good call. And yeah, this one is going tall more than going wide, I have that god-awful Ghave deck for going wide. I'd also like to maybe trim a little of the green and inject some more red.
I need some other spells like Talent of the Telepath, Diluvian Primordial, Jace's Mindseeker, etc.
>>48162249
Chancellor of the Spires. If you can use BUG I also recommend Villainous Wealth
>>48161623
Anon be gentle, he's clearly new and built it out of leftover Standard cards
>>48162140
god I love this card
Still no shipping notification on my 5 cent Metalworker. Time to pack up the dream, lads.
>>48160628
there's alot of gods in my meta , and dealing with keranos any other way is a pain most of the time
>>48160900
There's velcro and zips on the back
>>48162606
I still believe
I know I have been posting this a bit really but I don't have the ability to playtest often so I am usually in the theory phase.
Any feedback that I could get would be appreciated.
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/tasigurs-political-pleasure-palace/
r8 my trash that I slapped together because I pulled Brimaz
>>48162608
Good point, I hadn't considered that.
>>48163304
I'M DUMB
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/soldiers-08-02-14-1/
>>48162909
I'll stay strong for you, anon
>>48163325
Where's your removal?
Unified Strike and Darksteel Mutation aren't enough.
You have some weak creatures as well, it seems like that you just searched for Boros soldiers in gatherer and took everything that came up.
You need more removal, both creature and noncreature.
Still, I like the deck even if it's weak.
>>48163482
A lot of the removal is attached to creatures
>>48163325
Add in a Boros Charm and some wrath effects. Austere Command seems an obvious one to go with. I also really like Brave the Elements along with Blasphemous Act.
>>48163325
>>48163304
You need a lot more ramp and a lot more card draw. In particular you want to look into Reforge the Soul, Magus of the Wheel, Memory Jar, Slate of Ancestry, Evolving Wilds, Terramorphic Expanse, Boros Signet/Keyrune/Cluestone, Prismatic Lens, Temple of Triumph, Clifftop Retreat, Battlefield Forge, rainbow lands, etc.
Conqueror's Pledge seems like it's too far above your curve to be useful. You should consider Nomad's Assembly instead, or even Nahiri the Lithomancer since she's a permanent source of soldier tokens.
Ballynock Trapper is terrible. Don't play it, even if you do have tap synergy going on.
You're running red, why not include a couple of haste cards? Fervor and Hammer of Purphoros at least seem good, and Lightning Greaves and Swiftfoot Boots might also be worth including.
The other anon is right, you need a lot more removal. You have a decent amount of creature removal, but you're severely lacking in artifact and enchantment removal. I would look into Martial Coup as a board wipe and for spot removal Aura of Silence, Purify, Austere Command, Cleansing Meditation, Vandalblast, Wear/Tear, Return to Dust, and Oblivion Ring. You don't necessarily have to put all of them in, but running some combination of them would be good.
Also Boros Charm is definitely worth running.
Anybody know of any useful counters to put on this guy (other than +1/+1)
>>48164316
Fate Counters.
>>48164316
-1/-1
>>48164351
At least with Commander's Beacon it's possible to get out from under that fuckery now.
>>48164351
Oh that's evil
>>48164316
Bribery :^)
>>48164316
Magnet counters
>>48161072
>he took it down
God dammit I wanted to laugh at it.
>>48161563
A woodland bellower package can be really strong. While you're at it, might as well toss in a loaming shaman, he's serious business. I once was playing a game against some pretty competitive decks and an opponent buried alive on turn two for jin gitaxias and some other big stuff. I untapped and loaming shaman'd him and the look on his face was worth a hell of a lot more than loaming shaman's value.
>>48164527
It was just a pile of white cards from the last few Standards
>>48164823
to his credit, he ran pic related which earns him some of my respect
>>48164785
Another good call- the whole point of the deck is "Dudes are spells", so using Loaming Shaman as specific graveyard hate OR as grave recursion for myself seems fine.
About how many cards is a Bellower 'package'? I've already got E-Wit, which I assume would be one of them.
Secret tech?
Casting a bunch of elves, generating mana, then craterhoof, overrun, etc. Problem is, regular opponents include a token deck that will simply have more creatures than me. Snuck a killer bees in there, too.
>mfw my friend's nekusar deck gets hate in our group more than mine does
I can't tell if its because he uses teferi's puzzle box or if its because mine is more for the colors since I lack a proper grixis commander
>>48165536
Fight tokens with tokens.
>>48165536
Champion of Lambholdt. Have that on board when you drop Craterhoof and their blocking options get a lot more limited.
>>48164785
Wait this guy can enable you have an opponent shuffle any number of cards of YOUR choice?that changes my perspective on him in that case
>>48165594
Yep. Your trigger, your targets.
>>48165563
>>48165566
Those are both good cards I've never seen before, thanks. I don't usually play green so I'm not in on its its tricks.
>>48165681
To be fair, Predation is a new card from the precons last November.
>>48159263
I got a weird one, /edh/, and I'm looking for suggestions.
I fell in love with this weird little lady I never gave the time of day. Suggestions appreciated, I dunno how viable this thing is.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/how-bad-can-a-11-be/
>>48161072
Fool! It is I that has cracked the monowhite formula! Behold, and weep!
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/stone-hard-folk/Nahiri the whitest whitey to ever white
Think I'm gonna try and build a semicasual deck with Ishkana. Some infinite mana combos and degeneracy and some spider themes.
>>48165810
I bet your happy about that new enchantment.
Anyone got a good brew for Gisa and Geralf yet?
>>48165784
Spellskite?
>>48162606
Update: they refunded it
Oh well. Still planning on buying all of it
>>48165854
Yepjust play Grimgrin
>>48165563
>>48165536
Love me some Beasts. Get some extra oomph out of your Craterhoofs, Stomphowlers, and Thunderfoots.
>>48165906
There were a lot of times last night I wish I could've had Gisa and Geralf in my grimgrin deck cause I was stuck durdling until I drew certain cards with creatures in my grave and mana to play em.
>>48165906
Well I want to use Gisa and Geralf becausethey remind me of me and my sister
>>48165784
I fucking love that. I wanna play against that. Please tell me you live inFinland
>>48165849
I probably DO have to find a home for it. I imagine it can lead to some pretty cute shenanigans. It's a little redundant, as Nahiri already applies equipment for free, but the flash is nice, and there's always the combat tricks. Flash in a quietus spike for maximum hilarity!
>>48165976
Alright
Then build a Grimgrin deck, and swap him for GnG
>>48165854
Here's mine. It's a bit cute, and River Kelpie would be a must-include if not for theme.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-06-16-GHS-gg/
>>48166026
Oh
Well alrighty then.
>>48166000
Afraid not, anon, nor is the deck complete, let alone built. But thank you!
>>48166035
>no Gravecrawler
Get your shit together
>>48165976
>it reminds me of me and my sister
You and your sister have a rivalry and have killed people? Some people come from fucked up families...
>>48166076
>2/1
>Can't block
>Cast from graveyard
>In a deck that casts all its creatures fromthe graveyard anyway
tep kok
>>48166135
Let's be real here. G&G can only do 1 zombie a turn as per the ruling on their card, you can get a 2 for 1 if you do any other zombie and gravecrawler
Quick, post the most interesting zombies.
>>48166084
Nah, it's just that their interactions and personalities are similar to ours.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/malfegor-gets-crazy/
Hey /EDHg/, I have a few too many cutthroat/mean/powerful decks and I was looking to make something a little on the silly side. Any suggestions for my Malfagor list?
>>48166135
Gravecrawler is an infinite combo piece if you're into that sort of thing.
what do you guys thik of this alter?
i could get it for 13 bucks and I'd need it for my kaalia deck
>>48166268
it's garbage.
>>48166238
>>48166265
This, I wouldn't put Gravecrawler in unless I was comboing with it. I'd rather have something more useful or interesting than something which is just a shit 2/1 most of the time.
>>48166300
Well of course gravecrawler isn't the best you can do. Its UB after all, you can do more interesting and spicy combos. But gravecrawler can be a conduit for other combos
>>48166300
He's in my zombie deck, and in my deck he's useful even if I don't combo (I can, but we frown on combo except to end durdles), since my zombie deck is Thrax with gravepact.
>>48166300
sac fodder is a big deal, anon. Forget infinite combos, being able to have something get sacced repeatedly is very useful in many situations.
>>48166359
Yeah, he's great in a Grave Pact deck. >>48166380
Agreed, but that's not what I'm going for in this deck.
>>48166268
>german
u wot m8
>LGS has Graveborn
>Selling them at 80
>Want to get it for my zombie deck
>Also want to get Duel Decks Anthology for said zombie deck as well as Krenko and other potential EDH decks
>It's 130 dollarydoos
What do
>>48166268
Been a while since I've said this in a Magic thread, but here we go
THIN YOUR PAINTS
>>48165482
Your deck looks like it has enough bellower cards since you can get ramp / card advantage / rec sage / eternal witness / grave hate / vexing shusher or whatever. I'd just add fierce empath. He's great since he can get or get got by woodland bellower. Bellower for empath for some random big guy like gruul ragebeast or something is insane value.
>>48166598
Alright, I can dig it. I'll trim a little fat for Bellower and Empath. Any other suggestions, or would you call this one playtest ready?
>>48166268
It's obviously work of an amateur, it's not fucking worth 13 eurodollars. Just get normal gisela with half the price
>>48166466
Pay it or shut up.
>>48166262
Anybody?
>>48165810
>soltari visionary
>humility
my nigga
The shadow on visionary is probably relevant as fuck with all those equipments
>>48166684
>>48166282
>>48166591
after thinking about it for a while now I think you guys are right. I'll just get some other cards for that money.
>>48166419
This motherfucker does work in my Glissa the Traitor brew, makes an absolutely fantastic target for pic related.
>>48166135
man this other guy should've read more too, I was blocking his Alesha damn I need to play more.
>>48166622
Looks pretty good to me. As with every deck, you'll improve it a bunch when you get to see it in action.
Seriously though, Fierce empath is serious business. He da realest MVP. Usually he gets me a rune scarred demon or a massacre wurm.
>>48166764
Voltroning his evasive ass up is NOT a joke.
Anyone got a good jenara voltron list all I see on tapped out are just flicker etb decks that could use other commanders.
Hey /edhg/, been editting my deck, trying to improve the STAX theme, I have a list of cards that I'll be trading out for others. What do you think about these changes?:
Undercity Informer->Torpor Orb
Thoughtpicker Witch->Cursed Totem
Fleshbag Marauder->Abyssal Gatekeeper
Gary->Kokusho, the Evening Star
Withering Boon->Imi Statue
Dauthi Embrace->Arena of the Ancients
I also want to add in Ward of Bones and Syphon Flesh but I don't know what I could possibly cut without fucking up the rest.
Here's link: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/the-time-to-die-is-now/
>>48167381
I don't know if you want to run Torpor Orb and Sidisi in the same deck.
>>48167473
I know, I thought long and hard about that, but my playgroup uses ALOT of ETB creatures and effects, so it's worth it to shut down tons of cards compared to my one. Still, is there any creature that can Tutor on death or some other repeatable tutor?
What happens when I have this guy and a mindmoil out and I cast a spell? Do I put my hand away, draw a new one, put it away and draw again? Or do I put my hand away and draw my hands worth twice?
>>48167651
well they are both put on the stack when triggered so depending on which one you want to trigger first you let it trigger then you do it again.
but i don't see why you would have a deck with both?
>>48167651
>cast a spell
>Arjun and Mindmoil's ability both trigger and go on the stack
>first ability resolves, you put your hand on the bottom then draw that many cards
>second ability resolves, you put your hand on the bottom then draw that many cards
In between the two abilities resolving though you get priority, so you can cast any instants you drew with the first ability before the second ability replaces your hand again.
>>48167726
Cards like niv fire mind, psychosis crawler, sphinx's tutlage, chasm skulker, and "when you draw" effects.
I also like silly things
>>48167763
Wouldn't that cause arjuns and mindmoils triggers to pop again?
>>48167824
Yes. Every time you cast a spell, two more triggers will be added to the top of the stack.
>>48167473
>>48167603
Actually, now that I looked for myself, I have two repeatable tutors in the from of original Liliana or Demonic Collusion. I kinda want to run Liliana over Collusion but anyone got other recommendations? Also, plz rate and perhaps advice?>>48167381
>>48167960
it looks something like this:
T = times you draw new hand
S = spells cast
T = S * 2
once you have stopped casting spells you still have all the "second trigger card draw" left.
meaning that if you for example cast 7 spells. You would have to draw your hand 7 times after you're done casting spells by rule.
Favorite casual/budget deck
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/casual-olivia-10-vampire-tribal/
Sometimes i just like to turn black things sideways like a white police officer
I wanna make a really janky elf tribal deck using mainly cards with CMC of 3 (Think Tiny Leaders but with a full 99) using pic related as a Commander. Any way I can give my foes forests for maximum fun?
>>48168304
Song of the Dryads
>>48164316
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=74644
>>48168329
+Nylea's Presence
>>48164351
people still have problems with -1/-1 counters on him?
there are so many ways to stop that sort of tom foolery now
>>48167381
May I plz have some advice?
>Outcard advantage a BU deck because I got Skullclamp in T1 and he just couldn't remove it for the entire game
>Literally every time he killed a creature, I just got two more
He was mad salty
>>48166255
I've always been partial to this guy.
>>48169931
That guy is pretty dope
I was brainstorming UB wizard tribal the other day and this guy seems decently strong with Azami and voidmage prodigy
I always seem to be late to the party with my group pic.
Because thread is dead either way imma right?
http://epicstream.com/quizzes/Which-Magic-The-Gathering-Commander-Represents-You
>>48170305
no worries man I'm right there with you.
>>48165536
>Secret Tech
>Was literally the commander of a precon based around that
My little Anon can't be this retarded
>>48170697
He was asking for secret tech for a Freyalise Elf deck, you absolute walnut.
>>48170697
My little another Anon can't be this retarded
>>48170352
>http://epicstream.com/quizzes/Which-Magic-The-Gathering-Commander-Represents-You
Actually, that's pretty accurate. Neat quiz anon.
>>48170352
>Scion of the Ur-Dragon
Literally what the fuck
>>48162170
I only had 3 of those and I'm nitpicky about buying cards that are moderately played and thankfully most of these were cheap. Also got a sphinx ambassador since I saw it on edhrec and it looked cool. Thanks again anon
>>48170774
>choose everything aggro
>goblins
>reckless rash decisions
>hate green
>you are omnath
K den
>>48170352
>Talrand the Sky Summoner
I fucking wish. I don't have him
>>48171256
He's like $2.50 if I had to guess
>>48171278
1.75 for a foil according to my Autocard.
>>48171278
Even less than that. I would buy but got bills to pay and going to pre-release. Don't wanna splurge on cards right now
>>48171327
Dude, if the price of a fucking McDouble is 'splurging' to you, you need a new hobby.
>>48171341
he is probably talking about a bulk buy, getting more than just talrand. chill
>>48171102
Well, fuck you guys, I'm building this asshole now.
>>48171358
I've seen people hem and haw over a single 5 dollar purchase like it was going to render them unable to make rent.
>>48171366
I got him too while picking merfolk
>Captcha of waterfalls
Thanks captcha for reminding me to build Thada
>>48171460
Bro chill the fuck out. I'm not one of those fidgety fucks who complains about $5 cards. I just don't want to buy the single talrand
Talrand is super funny in my Azami wizard deck, like I don't need the drakes at all when things are going well but he's good if Azami dies too many times and he's downright silly when I have Azami + intruder alarm
Kinda new to edh (played with friends decks), thinking of making either:
Alesha undying weenies (swing with loads of weenies, never lose creatures)
Doran treefolk tribal (lots of synergy between different trees, dunno how to ramp)
Brimaz cat tribal (life gain + cat pooping ajani + Felidar = fun)
Which of those sounds the most fun/easiest to make without spending 1 million dollarydoos
>>48171732
Lifepoop cats, consider brimaz in the 99 and run kemba kitty voltron, kemba = bigger poops
Buy the white 14 precon and add some more cats/equipment/removal and you got yourself a catpoop deck
>>48171928
Go back to the litterbox. You want fun and value, play this bitch. Cheap staples, fun as hell, easily game-winning if left alone for too long.
hey guys i keep seeing peole saying "in the 99".
is this some slang for something or does it just mean the 99 cards that is not the commander?
Who here has built Jalira? Is it at all fun?
Do you run any cheap creatures?
>>48171975
Yes. Usually when referring to a Legendary creature.
>>48171975
>or does it just mean the 99 cards that is not the commander?
Bingo.
>>48165784
My nigga. I had a Rayne deck for awhile that won with Mirror of Fate and Lab Maniac to win on the spot. If you target anything, I won in response because of triggers. I see you have neither, but consider it.
Also, get Vanishing. Arguably the best tech for Rayne. Period.
>>48164909
You should use Fate Forgotten. It's instant speed for 1 more mana.
>>48166300
It's almost like you don't use Skullclamp
A guy at my LGS has two decks - Derevi and Momir Vig. In each deck, he tries to tutor up Palinchron + Dead Eye and if it gets interrupted, he scoops. Every fucking game. I have no idea why he plays or why he even bothers having two decks when he does the same thing with them anyways.
On an unrelated note, who else runs Spoils of the Vault in at least one deck? Insanely powerful card that can kill you immediately. I love the gamble.
I'm filthy casual scum.
Is a capital-B Boros themed deck viable in this format?
>>48167763
>>48168062
Would the spell l cast resolve before or after the triggers take place? Such that if l play a spell that says "draw two cards" do l draw the two before cycling my hand all dem times?
>>48172162
Cast triggers resolve before the spell that triggered them.
>>48171973
I like this as secret tech in nekusar. Most people expect me to draw them to death
