"How about no?"
>>48100653
That's pretty neato
>>48100653
>>48100725
Designed specifically to counter Eldrazi and other cards with cast triggers.
One big fuck you to Maelstrom Wanderer.
![636031812579357697[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/iz5xMw1.jpg "636031812579357697[1].jpg")
>>48100725
less neato
>>48100653
Sundial without ending turns.
>>48100777
Might be fun against Burn in a control deck.
>>48100653
Will definitely be fun against Eldrazi in a control deck.
>>48100653
When it says spells, does it mean everything on the stack, permanents, as well as lands?
>>48100777
fuggin cool, m8
>>48100808
Lands aren't spells, and permanents are only spells when they're on the stack
But yeah, everything on the stack
>>48100808
No. Just spells and abilities which have not resolved yet.
>>48100808
Lands are not spells and do not use the stack. Permanents are only spells while on the stack.
Everything else is a spell while it is on the stack and would be exiled.
>>48100808
Spells only exist on the stack. Cards already in play and land won't be touched.
>>48100740
Oh that's a good point. I was just thinking Eldrazi but this works against Cascade too.
>>48100808
You know that moment when literally everyone decided to cast their instants in a EDH game? That's what this card is for.
>>48100653
I wonder why they chose to have it counter all abilities instead of exiling them along with the spells.
>>48100852
Yup and I'm trying to grasp the subtle differences between countering a spell and exiling it.
>>48100876
How the fuck would you exile an ability?
>>48100653
How long has it been since we've had a card that could counter abilities? The last I can recall is like... Coldsnap.
>>48100883
An extra "fuck you"
>>48100883
Exiling gets around the "can't be countered" clause and for the most part deals with the problem permanently.
>>48100886
The permanent can no longer activate that ability until it leaves the battlefield in some fashion?
>>48100883
Gets around "can't be countered"
>>48100922
That's not how exiling works. You can't exile text, you exile cards.
>>48100777
>26
>Double of 13
>>48100918
>>48100915
>>48100932
But does exiling a spell stop on cast triggers?
>>48100886
I don't understand your confusion. Being able to exile an ability isn't new. Look at the reminder text for Time Stop.
>>48100951
"Counter all abilities"
>>48100985
>>48100653
We control now
>>48100653
WHO YA GONNA CALL
>>48100936
Just watch me.
>>48100967
But counter spells can't stop on-cast triggers from activating.
>>48101041
On-cast triggers are abilities
>>48101034
Wrong image.
>>48101059
That poor Linvala
>>48101034
Is she okay?
odds that its a mind rot?
>>48100886
The only difference between a spell and an ability re: stack presence and interactions is that the latter isn't represented by a card. Think of it as exiling a copy of a spell - it leaves the stack and then poofs into nonexistence.
Looks like anoathto me.
>>48100951
No, but by the time you cast this card the ability is on the stack and so gets countered. The trigger isn't stopped, because it already happened, but the effect it generates is countered as part of this spell's resolution unless, for some reason, you wait for that effect to resolve before casting this.
lel that leakyfaucets guy revealed Lili's +1 on the reddit thread and people are all negging it
>>48101096
God damn, they knocked it out of the park with her face. She's gorgeous.
>>48101137
Well what the fuck is it, faygo
>>48101152
-2/-1 a dude for the turn
>>48101058
Okay I think I grasp it now. if you played a counter spell against Ulamog or Kozilek, are you removing them as spells from the stack and preventing them from resolving, entering the battlefield and becoming permanents.
However the on-cast triggers of their abilities would still resolve as those trigger resolutions are independent from the permanent spell resolutions.
>>48101096
Liliana a cute.
A CUTE.
>>48101203
>-2/-1
>not even a full Disfigure
Why bother
>>48100802
This man's thinking in the right directions
>>48100777
MAIN DECK EDH!
>>48101269
Yep! The OP's card would also counter the on-cast triggers, as they are abilities.
>>48101321
It turns all those 3/2 Eldrazi into 1/1s which can be blocked and killed by zombies.
>>48101408
>all those
>only targets one
>blocks
>from an ability that lasts until end of turn and has to be done at sorcery speed
>>48101468
Good pupper
>>48101468
Yet another card in the werewolf/ wolf tribal competing for that 3-4 cmc drop.
>>48101096
It's Oath of Liliana, get with the program.
>>48101468
>0/3
>0
really? can't even give us a fucking one?
>>48101468
Yikes, that could turn a game around if they get too aggressive.
Makes running into these look pleasant.
>>48101534
I know I was just asking if its ability would be mind rot
>>48100777
6 free life, plus 26 life on turn 7.
That'll staff Standard to hell and back.
>>48101534
He means its ETB effect
>>48101537
It's a protection effect to make a combat more favorable by turning trades into a benefit for you. Also protects against languish.
>>48101137
>that leakyfaucets guy
Who?
>>48101533
is that really competing for the 3 drop spot?
Maybe it's sideboard, but nothing more
>>48101468
>3/3 for 3 with flash
Will run in mono-green stompy based on that alone. I miss Boon Satyr something fierce.
>>48101570
it doesn't give you 26 life, it sets you to 26
>>48101569
>>48101578
It's either that or a 2/2 black Zombie creature token tapped.
>>48100653
So would this stop flip walkers and merge from resolving, thereby keeping them in exile?
>>48101632
No.
You exile the creatures as part of the ability. If you exile the ability, the creatures never go into exile.
>>48100886
Activating an ability puts an "ability" object onto the stack.
The stack resolves that object by resolving the abilities effect.
Ability objects can only exist on the stack, but like other objects can be moved around.
Exiling an ability object is like exiling a token object, it'll move into exile then be removed altogether when state based actions are checked.
>>48101679
no thats a cost i thought causing: >>48101632 to be right.
>>48101615
I kinda like the idea of her oath being a nod to Sarcomancy.
What are the chances of it being 1 mana like Nissa's?
>>48101570 stall*
>>48101602
6 free life, plus 23-25 life on turn 7.
Still makes Heroes Remembered look tame.
>>48101468
The only thing i have to adjust for is the mana cost. This thing would be stupid if it was 2G instead of 1GG. Still a neat card, helps u transform those turn 1 and 2 drops while insulating them from death that turn. Perfect counter to people who try to rush you before u can gain too much steam. Nice werewolf support.t-thx wizards...
>>48101721
>Jace and Gideon = 3 mana
>Chandra = 2 mana
>Nissa = 1 mana
100%
>>48101579
the guy who leaked meld, eldritch evolution and some other shit
>>48101705
No, it's not a cost, you idiot.
>>48101845
Could you post a link or something? Searching "leakyfaucets" just brings up DIY repair stuff.
>>48101369
I can't wait to reveal this in my opening hand in EDH and then beat the table anyway.
>>48101096
oh god guys
guys
I think I have a waifu now
>>48101944
Reddit user leakyfaucets.
it's not hard.unlike me.
>>48101978
Kinda behind the times there, chief
>>48101978
>>48101999
My brethren.
>>48101989
leakyfaucets123 to be exact
>>48101999
It's the fact that the hair almost looks like it's in a Ponytail.
>>48101989
I'm not seeing anything about MtG on this https://www.reddit.com/user/Leakyfaucets
>>48102026
That explains it then.
>>48101321
Jokes on you I just give a new guy haste with Forerunner of Slaughter.
Can someone post the damn effect seaching for shit on plebbit is the worst shit ever.
this dude is underrated as hell. self-mill may as well be draw in a zombie deck
>>48102073
Screeching Skaab has been around since OG Innistrad you know.
>>48102073
It's not a one drop though.
>>48101321
So it's supposedly
>+1: Up to one target creature gets -2/-1 until end of turn.
>-2: Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then return up to one creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
>-7: Emblem.
This seems pretty underwhelming for being "the Last Hope'. I was almost wanting her to be a fuckoff powerful 6 mana walker or something.
>>48102116
yeah i'll believe that when i see the card
not that i doubt it i just think they'll do something more powerful
>>48102129
>>48102116
The guy spoilered Eldritch Evolution and a couple other cards.
No reason to believe he is bullshitting.
>>48102073
Nah, i'd rather just play the 1/1 Zombie Rat with Deathtouch and Skulk.
>>48102116
Seams kind of weak when we almost all the walkers since BfZ have been really good, but maybe that's the point.
>>48102157
I'll believe what I want, when I want, and how I want it.
>>48102129
the best shit tends to get spoiled first. Since she isn't out yet she probably isn't good
>>48102116
It depends a lot on what the emblem does. Could be great, could be terribad. Also what mana cost and starting loyalty?
>>48101978
Enjoy your murderous blames-others-for-her-problems waifu!
>>48102104
yeah but i don't want to have to run blue in a zombie deck. mono black has so many advantages. pic related
>>48102116
>doesn't even make zombies
Insult to the injury.
>>48102178
He didn't say.
>>48102198
My guess would be "Whenever a non-token creature dies, put a 2/2 zombie token onto the battlefield" or something like that.
>>48102171
Found it.
>>48102198
I mean, she could be 2BB and have 3 starting loyalty and be at least playable, or she could be 5B and have 4 loyalty and be shit. We just don't know at this point.
>>48102229
>>48102198
Do you expect Wizards to NOT create a 4 mana 4 Royalty Planeswalker every set?
>>48101999
>oath
>Lily of the Veil
The power of the planeswalker is inversely proportional to the shittiness of the art.
Unless you're Jace.
>>48102164
>i'd rather just play the 1/1 Zombie Rat with Deathtouch and Skulk.
really? reasoning behind this?
>>48102303
We've already got one of them this set, don't we?
>>48102312
Deathtouch.
>>48102229
>I mean, she could be 2BB and have 3 starting loyalty and be at least playable, or she could be 5B and have 4 loyalty and be shit.
I'd prefer a 6 mana powerouse like pic related than another 4 mana pile of meh. If that guy's right about the abilities though it's going to be a shitty card even at 3 mana.
>>48102116
Post yfw itonly costs BB.
>>48102333
At 3 mana she's almost viable just because of how fast she comes down. And again, while you shouldn't expect the ult to save a card, if it's good enough it'll really affect what play she sees.
>>48102357
>>48102357
>>48102357
>another 2 mana planeswalker
After Jace? No way they can get away with it.
>>48100653
"Fuck you and everything you say."
>>48100886
Same way you exile a token.
>>48102116
Hopefully she's 1BB with 3 loyalty. Otherwise she'll be completely unplayable.
>>48100876
Probably less confusing to newbies.But I do agree that it's so much less neat than "Exile all other spells and abilities."Though again, it really drives home the "Fuck you, also, no" thing.
>>48100777
It won't see play, unless there is a very fun control deck in the works, but Jesus, I love the design.
>>48101004
Ha!
>Tap 4 permanents
>5 power
>6 toughness
>Emerge CMC 7
>CMC 8
I get it...
>>48102332
i guess so. if i do end up making a zombie deck i would run death baron
>>48102312
Because I've been testing and trying to make Zombies work for a while now. I've gone through lot of different iterations and basically the deck is actually resilient and can survive spot removal well. Can even recover back from board wipes slowly thanks to Relentless Dead as long as you have mana out. Often the case has been what do you play early on that buys you time to setup an overwhelming force however the deck is not superfast and tries to play a "fair" grinding game. Unless I go into Green for getting into Delirium/Gitrog/Groundkeeper then Wailing Ghoul doesn't always provide me the absolute best value in the list at 2cmc. It is so far the only list i've found where Epiphany at the Drownyard is straight up perfect in there.
>>48100653
Is this the first universal counterspell? Or am I missing something that gets past this?
>>48102470
There's shit that allows you to play things directly from your hand or library into play.
This would counter such abilities, but whatever you are putting into play doesn't get revealed until the ability has already resolved. So either your opponent potentially wastes this on a nothing ability or your big and scary thing hits the field.
>>48102470
It can't stop Split Second, but I would still consider it a universal counterspell.
>>48102470
Universal in what way? Countering both spells and abilities? Sundial of the Infinite arguably does this.
>>48102470
>>48102451
>I've been testing and trying to make Zombies work for a while now
Don't hold your breath.
>>48102502
Yeah, but that's not all it does.
>>48102525
Honestly? Deck is close to working. If there's some actual decent support it can happen.
>>48100653
>exile all other spells and counter all abilities
Does this mean it can counter a Nahiri ult? I'm confused and intrigued.
>>48102564
>>48102451
can you post a list/link?
>>48102616
Yes.
>>48102616
Yep.
>>48102616
Yes, that is an activated ability of Nahiri.
>>48102116
There is no way the +1 is right, that ability is terrible. I think the leaker templated it wrong and it actually reads: -2/-1 until the beginning of your next turn so it protects Liliana.
Exile all abilities, tap your library, shuffle your hand, then sacrifice target player.
>>48102700
What memetastic bullshit are you on about?
>>48100777
as a burn player, fuck this gay shit
>>48102495
Putting a card from your hand or library into play for free is a really good effect no matter what you use it on. They could totally be using it to bait you into using your counterspell so they can play something else but in a vacuum it's still a good trade.
>>48102700
>sacrifice target player.
kek
>>48102740
Roborosewater-type nonsense.
>>48102804
If this is the dedicate hate somebody sides in against my burn deck I would laugh.
>>48102804
As a Red mage:
skullcrack.
>>48102438
>three word name
>minimum cost of two
>>48102823
If my opponent taps out to resolve this onto an empty board and I get to untap and drop Chandra, I am more than happy.
>>48102825
sure, I'll cast skullcrack on the game's first upkeep
>>48100653
Is that a Snapcaster in the artwork there?
>>48102839
If they're doing this turn 0, that's a resource out of their hand that they don't get to use later. One shot, 6 life. It's not nearly as bad when you have 7 cards in hand as it would be when you're down to topdecks and what's left of your board presence.
>>48102850
I don't recall snapcaster being a chubby ginger with mutton-chops...
>>48102867
>reveal this card from your hand
It never says you have to discard it.
>>48102825
>cast skullcrack
>they take 3 and then go up to 26
lol
>>48102888
nvm I'm retarded. Apparently this is actually intuitive.
>>48102888
>not knowing how changing life totals works
le tg is bad at magic meme
>>48102867
Not remotely how it works
>>48102888
are you being a retard on purpose just to perpetuate the "/tg/ is bad at magic" meme?
>>48102886
... Aw, fuck.
>tg is bad at magic
>RTFC
>>48102916
So, we're gonna have to start playing Reforge the Soul out of the board if this becomes any sort of thing in white decks?
![826_final[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/TrHNA0T.jpg "826_final[1].jpg")
>>48102883
Presumably, since the card is nonlegendary, not all Snapcaster Mages look like just like Tiago - there could indeed by chubbygingermuttonchops Snapcasters.
That said, it doesn't look anything like the rest of Snapcaster, so I'd say no, it's not a Snapcaster, just a geistmage of some description.
>>48102850
Just some sort of geistmage.
>>48102883
"Snapcaster" is more of a job description or type of magic user, so there could be a ginger snapcaster. We already have an azn snapcaster and a black soccer player snapcaster.
>>48102820
>your land will never be trandor
>>48102979
>>48102986
So what makes a caster snappy? The way he dresses, the speed at which he casts, or does he cast with a snap of his fingers?
>>48103036
The speed at which he casts and the way he "snaps" spells back from the graveyard.
>>48103036
It's his favorite spell.
>>48102965
this is not a card worth preparing for. it's a free gain 6 in any game that burn has a chance of winning and nothing else since if youre playing burn and your opponent is resolving 7 mana cards, youre probably not winning no matter what the card is
>>48102965
If your opponent is at 7 mana you have bigger things to worry about than fucking lifegain
>>48102628
Sure thing. http://deckstats.net/deck-10497657-70c3c30bd69f1d0110d0855850fba185.html
I believe this was the last version I was testing with before I shelved it away until EMN. So far the one thing I definitely want to try is the new pseudo Remand/Boomerang from EMN into the list. Possibly Gisa and Geralf as a way to easily cast stuff out of the graveyard.
So I was looking at old Daily MTG stuff and I stumbled on this:
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/wedge-2011-06-06
>The reason I asked for this preview card is because its design is very near and dear to my heart. Note that I didn't design any of the cards in the set. My preview card just hits close to something I did in my very first design, Tempest.
>I created a spell that I called Meld. The idea behind it was that you took two creatures in play and melded them together. The original card made a creature that had a combined power and toughness as well as all of the two creatures' abilities.
So MaRo has been waiting for this since apparently the first set of his career, and yet they still only managed to print 3 of them.
I'm curious what the chances are we'd ever see something like Comander Precons with a Commander that Melds with one of the 99.
>>48100740
>One big fuck you to Maelstrom Wanderer.
For added fun, let them resolve the first Cascade and put a spell onto the stack so you can exile that too.
>>48103246
>shitty Yugioh design is very near and dear to MaRo's heart
Well that explains everything.
>>48103246
we'll see it as a Simic Mythic in return to return to ravnica.
>>48103376
>Yugioh
Not at all you fucking retard.
Yugioh fusion mechanics always rely on 2 (or more) cards fusing up into a THIRD card that generally goes in the Extra deck, or in special cases in the main deck.
In yugioh you never ever take cards off their sleves, and XYZs come from the Extra Deck and are a different card.
Probably the first big tcg to implement something like this was Pokemon with the Legend Mechanics, but the cards only had one side making them not playable until you drew the other.
If you know shit about a topic you would be better shutting your mouth off.
>>48102304
I would genuinely be excited if they reprinted Liliana the Veil with a new artwork, but I know they'll never do that even if they reprinted her in a future set.
>>48103246
Have you not been keeping up with the development stories?
Ken Nagle fucking LOVED that idea and has been openly pushing it for years (note that his take in that very same article you write is better than Maro's earlier attempt).
>>48101408
If it gave all of their creatures -2/-1, then I might be impressed.
>>48103547
If that was a +1 ability, put her at 4 loyalty or more, and she cost 4CMC or less, this would be so fucking unbelieveably broken it'd make me laugh.
>>48103456
>here, let me explain to you why this shitty Yugioh design is actually a shitty Pokemon design
>>48101582
Flash is inherently powerful in werewolves bc you can flip your bros and still add to the board that turn. It can also lead to some situations where you can get people when they guess wrong if youre holding up 3 mana for him or the anthem
>>48103627
And you're 0.01% less ignorant now, about this topic, thanks to my post.
I am very generous and you will not sperg the same bullshit again on other threads or before other human beings, assuming you're not retarded.
You're welcome ;)
>>48101096
>What I wish for
2B
When OoL enters the battlefield target player sacrifices a creature.
At the beggining of each opponent's upkeep, if you control a planeswalker, that opponent discards a card.
>What It'll probably be
2BB
When OoL enters the battlefield Duress
Whenever you cast a planeswalker, Unearth.
>>48101004
>>48102438
>>48102833
>Elder DEEPEST LORE-Fiend
>>48103690
>other human beings
You lost me there.
>>48102116
It's so shitty I wouldn't be surprised if it's true.
It's BANT or BUST with R&D, Chandra being somewhat good was an accident.
>>48102451
If they would just fucking print Carrion Feeder, Zombie tribal would become instantly playable in both Standard and Modern.
>>48102804
They want Burn, Infect and Affinity to die so that Modern and Standard are nothing but memerange and Tron.
>>48102833
One card
>>48103800
http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?printed=true&multiverseid=413626
>>48103800
>and Modern
I assume you never played Modern before.
>>48103840
What part of Standard and Modern did you not understand anon?
>>48102389
Make him great again.
>>48103840
None of those printings are Modern legal. Even if it's stupid to think it would be any good in Modern, you have to be pretty stupid to think that having a printing with the new card frame makes it Modern legal.
>>48103823
0 escape
![Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=80290&type=card.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ivm5Qpd.jpg "Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=80290&type=card.jpg")
>>48100898
>>48102965
Well, aren't leylines just better than this new card?
![Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=97096&type=card.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zqzjUYY.jpg "Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=97096&type=card.jpg")
>>48104107
Off by 1 block.
![Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=129898&type=card.jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Ky4Pjjd.jpg "Image[1].ashx_multiverseid=129898&type=card.jpg")
>>48104166
Unless you want to count this a year later, that is.
>>48100898
>>48104107
>>48104166
>>48104178
It's actually much more recent than that.
>>48104107
Man, I love Squelch. I wish Jeskai Nahiri was more present in my local meta so I could run a couple in my sideboard.
>>48102820
>tfw no trandor land
Does anybody know what the Thalia promo art is for?
>>48104067
Don't know why, but I fucking kek'd at this.
>>48104300
BAB a box
>>48104324
Well that's a damn shame. I quite liked that art.
>>48103246
>reading article
>see pic related
>>48104339
You can usually pick up buy a box promos for chump change once they're out of rotation if you're in it for the art, unless they're insanely playable
>>48104387
Oh, probably. I plan to use Thalia the moment she hits. so the price will probably be a little bit high for a while.
That said, if I really like the deck and want to hold onto it when it rotates out, I might just do that.
>>48104404
Ah. My store sometimes gives away BAB promos instead of FNM promos if the FNM promos run out early so you might have some luck with that
>>48103246
mimoplasm's potential for lewd is incredible
>>48104423
Worth a shot. They like me well enough anyway since I'm a regular player of like 5 different games, so maybe a week or two after the release I'll swing by FNM and see what's what. Thanks anyway, anon.
>>48103036
Dunky nig is a snapcaster, jace is also a snapcaster.
just spoil lily already
>>48104460
>+1: Up to one target creature gets -2/-1 until end of turn.
>-2: Put the top two cards of your library into your graveyard, then return up to one creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
>-7: Emblem.
Legit as fuck because the guy that spoiled it also spoiled several cards that later turned out to be real.
>>48104441
Hope you get them. I got a playset of BAB Eidolon of Blossoms because I dig the art
>>48100985
Goes straight to Izzet Blitz.
>>48104480
You can't make a +1 that doesn't work on an empty board state.
>>48104510
>up to
>>48104510
That's what the "up to" is for. So you can choose zero if there's no creatures.
>>48104480
>-7: Emblem.
Little vague there champ
>>48104549
The guy for some reason doesn't want to spoil the emblem or the mana cost/loyalty.
People on reddit bashed him because
>You spoiled several cards before, but that lili seems so shitty, I can't be real, fuck youuuu
So he went like whatever faggots and stopped spoiling shit.
>>48104654
To be fair, that's to be expected when you decide to become the bearer of bad news.
>>48104362
Everyone fears my one eyed stranger.
ALERT ALERT ALERT
LEGENDARY SPIDER SPOTTED
>>48104738
What the fuck is this shit
This is literally EDH exclusive trash
>>48104738
>spiderfog is now a commander deck
>Its also green black, just because
>>48103800
Actually if there was some prevalent B mana dorks Zombie tribal would work in Modern. Believe me i've tried to make it with with a combination of Aether Vials and CoCo and the deck is just a tad too slow. It's fucking hilarious though when your 2/2 Zombies suddenly become 6/6 because of a few Vial activations and CoCo hits.
All standard really needs for Zombies to be relatively viable is a Lord that's cmc 3 or less and a reliable strong one drop Zombie.
>>48104738
>spiders of all things get a fucking legendary
>instead of Ludevic, or spirit legend to make all that flash spirit shit from SOI worth it, or another wolf legendary so they don't suck ass
Dude who the fuck asked for this?
>>48104771
Spider tribal for EDH. People have been asking for it.
>>48104771
Commander players
No seriously, this card is for Commander and nothing fucking else
It's not a limited bomb
It's not standard or modern playable
It just sits there taking up space
>>48104771
One word nigga:
Arachno fucking genesis.
>>48104738
>Commander babbies whining gets them to print this
>The collective amount of demands for Damnation reprint doesn't
>>48104738
Hilariously I think the EDH crowd is going to be mad it's not G/B.
>>48104738
It's such fucking garbage oh my god.
>>48104807
>we will never get FTV: Damnation Confirmed. A specialty set containing 15 Premium Damnations
>>48104823
but it is for EDH purposes
>>48104823
Its color identity is GB though, it has a B activated ability
>>48104823
The 6B ability makes it a viable Golgari commander. That's literally confirmation that this was designed to be a spider tribal commander.
>>48104738
>pander to the edh crowd
>make it shit in edh
GJ wizards.
>>48104823
it still has black in its color identity, so it doesnt matter
>>48104841
Then why not print it in one of those fucking Commander specific sets? Why waste the green mythic slot on this hot piece of trash?
WHY SPEND 7 MANA TO DO 1 DAMAGE FUCK YOU MARO HOLY SHIT.
>>48104850
but it can be four damage if you had delirium : ^)
>>48104850
6B to do one damage for each spider. Combine this with Arachnogenesis and Spider Spawning and you could get a sizable swarm of tokens.
Still not worth it though.
>>48104859
Let's not forget that it's loss of life which cant be prevented whereas damage can : ^)
>>48104762
>All standard really needs for Zombies to be relatively viable is a Lord that's cmc 3 or less and a reliable strong one drop Zombie
That's also what every other format needs for Zombies to have a chance at being viable. The situation is so bad for the deck that it doesn't even have a solid creature base in eternal formats.
>>48104850
>Why waste the green mythic slot on this hot piece of trash?
It's not a true MTG set if it doesn't have a trashy green mythic.
>>48104845
We need to stop saying "designed for EDH".
The reason is because it gives Wizards a fucking excuse to print shit cards. Whether or not they printed it with EDH in mind they can fall back on that excuse.
Magic players need to fucking censor themselves when it comes to giving Wizards free excuses when they do something that nobody gives a fuck about.
>>48104901
You make it sound like they need an excuse to print shit cards. Overcosted jank will always exist and there's nothing we can do about it.
>>48104845
I don't know, I'm tempted to actually make some kitchen table durdle deck that's just about amassing a board full of spiders, keeping myself alive and maybe resorting to Cryptolith Ritual or something that allows me to use that life loss ability more than once at the end of an opponent's turn.
Not viable in any competitive sense but what sort of asshole plays competitive EDH?
>>48100777
This is likely to be part of a cycle...
I like that.
>>48101369
You joke, but it's a May.
>>48104738
It's super fucking blurry which makes me doubt it is even real but it's absolutely terrible so it has to be real.
As someone who wanted a Spider legendary go fuck yourselves Wizards, you know exactly what shit you're trying to shove down our throats.
>>48104920
You bet they need excuses. They use excuses for fucking everything, they cite Chronicles (a 20 year old issue) for the Reserve List, they talk about collector value, they say new players are intimidated by complex commons as justification for boring fucking Limited effects, they say "it's not for you" when preconstructed decks are full of garbage.
They have a huge list of excuses that the community repeats and the excuse lets them continue doing it. If we just called it for what it is, being lazy and not having ANY community input before a set is released, then they will be more conscious to not do it.
Making excuses for Wizards is not as bad as the 1 out of 100 people who actually want this shit, but it's still not going to get us cards we want.
>>48102505
I feel that really shouldn't cost 6, but damn, I just noticed what the art depicts.
>>48104960
Source is iplaymtg. I think it's too well-formatted to be fake and exactly the kind of shit Wizards would print.
![41[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/RAHtWwj.jpg "41[1].jpg")
![43[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/XY7Aqh9.jpg "43[1].jpg")
![8[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zO4aMj5.jpg "8[1].jpg")