Gid gud edition.
> Codexes
https://mega.nz/#F!BxI1HSgI!0tKymKh9RZTzGpgIA5EyCg
>FAQ
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Rules-Errata
> The Black Library(Stay the fuck away from the clowns)
https://mega.nz/#F!wx4BiKhD!YhnAf1BqSmAB8dO6xDM56Q!c4pGAJDb
> Space 0Din's glorious work
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lsx27fo3rq2x7tk/Codex%20-%20Orks%207th%20Edition%20Update%20[Space%20Odin](2016).pdf?dl=0
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This thread has awakened!
FOUR JOHNNY'S to guard against bronies.
What do you think of the Inquisition's Space Marine Chapter?
WE MARCH TO THE HYMNS OF THE ECCLESIARCHY
Is there any versions of mathammdr that can do the math for blasts or d weapons?
>>48047200
>So Lord of the Rings, Star Wars and comic books have been appropriated from nerds and so the nerds become hipsters
Aww you mean I can't be into lotr and dune anymore? Damn, those books got me into fantasy and sci fi.
I was never interested into MLP though , better start now.
>>48047343
my math is terrible but i believe a small blast will hit 2-3 models on average though idk about D
>>48047309
Meh
>>48047364
'Johnny GET THAT FUCKER!'
>>48047324
>Not waiting for superior Sisters
>>48047343
d weapons do (i believe) an average of 2.333 wounds per hit (1/6*0 + 4/6*2 + 1/6*9)
>>48047304
Man, even in other color schemes, johnny did not age well at all. It's really painful to look at.
>>48047309
Really good, I love having skyfire on command or popping hatred or monster hunter before a big fight.
Thoughts on this game at my FLGS. I like to play corsairs as I love the fluff, but get their power level so try keep it cool. played a 1K point game against I AdMech formation - 3 units of grav destroyers, 1 unit of plasma cannon destroyers, castellans and mayos, so like a million grav shots (he has turn 1).
I have 3 reaver squads in venoms with cannons, 3 vypers, 6 CC Jetbikes, psyker and a prince on bike. I proceed to slap his army make good save rolls on my shadow fields and win by turn two. The castellans got put into reserves with a power in my turn two and they were his last unit so I effectively tabled him. That AdMech force had a tonne of ignore cover in the formation and rerolls for their shooting when they fired. This guy was mega salty that he lost, no GG or handshake... Something wrong with my list or just a spurge?
>>48047324
FUCK. OFF. Every godamn thread you post about your Raging Heroes stuff. If you want to shill those models, make a thread of your own and stop shitting up this one.
>>48047364
Is being an idiot normal for you, or is this an off day? The whole ppint of that post was to explain the hipsterism of some nerds, ie the ones into all three of MLP, TF2 and Warhammer. If this does not apply to you, then neither does the analysis dumb-dumb. You can enjoy your LotR and Dune all you want, no one is going to take it from you.
Cease yer shitposting and r8 my escalation campaign list.
Imperial guard 750pts
Company command squad [143 points]
- Carapace armour
- Volkov's cane
- (X4) plasma gun
Ministorum priest [25 points]
Primaris Psyker [75 points]
- Mastery level 2
Bullgryns [145 points]
Infantry platoon [217 points]
{
Platoon command squad [41 points]
- (X2) Flamer
- Lieutenant has Boltgun
Infantry squad [51 points]
- Sergeant with Boltgun
Infantry squad [50 points]
Heavy weapons squad [75 points]
- (X3) Heavy Bolter
}
Infantry platoon [145 points]
{
Platoon command squad [45 points]
- Heavy Bolter
- (X2) Sniper rifle
- Lieutenant has Boltgun
(X2)
Infantry squad [50 points]
}
>>48047446
actually i haven't posted in /40kg/ for about 2 months
good to know other people got some rad tgg stuff too
>>48047447
>hipsterism of some nerds, ie the ones into all three of MLP, TF2 and Warhammer
You mean the big names in their respective fileds? Sure is hipster that.
>>48047459
Fuck off shill.
Tyranid player here: Thinking of grabbing biovores for that artillery node formation. Are the spore-mines only useful as a missed-shot side effect, or is deploying them as a unit useful at all?
>>48047309
Which one of them?
Any tips for how to highlight Dark Eldar flesh? I seem to bugger it up and end up with just random looking thin lines on their faces... I have no idea how to do the subtle stuff.
>>48047412
It's not really representative of the weapon to count in the D6+6 wounds, since almost nothing will survive that. It's 1.6 wounds per hit on average, with a 17% chance of removal.
>>48047474
you need to calm down, being this mad isn't good for your heart
Is artillery heavy guard an moderately effective strategy, or doomed to failure? I'd like to run an artillery company/salamanders list some time.
>>48047459
>He just happened to purchase literally the exact same models as the guy shitting up the last thread
>>48047516
I'd be very surprised if that was the case
Maybe the other guy will show up and we can compare
>>48047491
If you are playing Eternal War it can work if you give it void shields and wrap the whole thing in infantry to prevent drop pods from entering your deployment zone.
In maelstrom it simply does not work, too immobile and you cannot spare the protective defenses.
>>48047441
Typical 40k game in 7th edition. GW has attracted and cultivated a waac mentality. A large number of the sensible players have left.
>>48047401
Are these an upcoming thing, or just some weird fluke from a dead company?
Googling Grishnak models just turns up LotR models of Grishnak.
>>48047401
looks like a straight up copy of GWs SoB.
I dont mind though
>>48047516
I'm not taking sides here, but the Raging Heroes guy didnt 'shit up' the last thread.
The sexually frustrated neckfat sperglord did. Raging Heroes guy just posted his stuff, which I think we can all agree is fun to do.
If you are tired of seeing him talk about it, just ignore. Seems kind of irrational to get so bent out of shape at relatively benign posts. Especially considering the prolific shitposters that dominate these threads. With actual shitposts.but dont let me stop you from showing us all what state of mind you're in. Continue to get upset when anon posts some models he's excited to get. Totally normal behavior.
>>48047700
I find it amusing these people get so upset over a bunch of miniatures
>>48047787
Especially since it is just about the least played faction. I am almost certain that Dark Eldar and Inquisition see more play then SoB.
What paints should I get for something like this?
Alright /40kg/, you've decided for yourself you're gonna run a big choppy daemon in your next list.
How do you kit him out? Do you take a Khorne DP? A variant of thirster? Are you trying to get point efficiency or unstoppable killing prowess?
>>48047787
If someone is depressed, angry, frustrated, etc. - they tend to get irritated very easily. Imagine seeing the world through a filter that only allows negativity through. I've been there, it sucks. When I see anon exhibiting irrational anger over something he could simply disregard, I can only assume thats what is going on. Dont try to convince them or argue, it will just feed their emotionally charged state.
>>48047548
Sounds about what I expected. Well, no one ever said that it was easy being an artilleryman.
Are Blood Angels playable now or do they still suck?
I'm not asking if they are top tier, I'm just asking if they are passable.
A Formation Detachment would be nice to have but +2 attacks to Dreads and WS/BS 4 scouts is a good start.
>>48047928
Cor'bax Utterblight, Daemon Prince of the Ruinstorm.
I9 Daemon of Nurgle LoW!
Why no warboss in mega armor plastic character model, gw?
Or just... bigga bosses...
>>48047928
ML 3 GUO with Greater Reward and Biomancy. Pretty nasty for 260 points.
>>48047624
Some Russian outfit just announced them a month or two ago. They should be for sale soon, they're supposed to be $20 or so for 5 sisters.
>>48047689
Yeah, except they don't look like ass.
>>48047478
Spore mines are fun to fill your detachment with and annoy the shit out of people, for example:
>Hive Fleet Detachment - 1825
>HQ - 520
Deathleaper - 130
Tervigon - 195
Tervigon - 195
>Troops - 405
(Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore - 45) x9
>Elites - 450
(Lictor Brood; 3x Lictor - 150) x3
>Fast Attack - 90
(Spore Mine Cluster; 6x Spore Mine - 30) x3
>Heavy Support - 360
(Biovore Brood; 3x Biovore - 120) x3
I mean it's really fucking stupid but hypothetically you could annoy the shit out of someone who cares too much about the game with them, keeping the biovores near the tervigons for synapse and using the lictors and deathleapers to deep strike everything accurately.
>>48047874
Watch these two videos and it should give you a good idea what you need.
https://youtu.be/g9HzqHVg1uE
https://youtu.be/_odi1c7ErCg
>>48047950
Their codex is severly lacking in good options, and they have shit formations.
They are playable, but you arent competing with the big boys.
>>48047700
I don't have a problem with the models, I have a problem with people that keep posting them over and over knowing that it triggers faggots. It's like if someone were to start every thread with a picture of a Space Marines army with female heads.
>>48047963
I've always wanted to run a ruinstorm prince in a list with a decurion and fateweaver; ultimate warp storm control.
>>48048032
Not bad at all, have you considered using epidemia?
>>48047950
By and large, BA still aren't to great.
They're definitely not unplayable by any means, but they still rate around the low-middle or the high-bottom of tier lists.
Without allies in a casual meta, they're probably comparable to 'nids right now.
They really don't have too much room for optimization which sucks however.
Casual lists are probably as good as you're going to get.
>>48047401
Ugh, worse face than GW metal sisters
>>48047491
You can manage it with Renegades, you literally shit out enough blasts and indirect barrages to table anyone not actively trying to wipe you out. Twelve laser destroyers, eight quad mortars, six basilisk, four Medusa, three giant chaos spawn and sixty zombies is too much fire-power to survive. Keep everything in cover, keep your ordnance tyrant out of LoS and when anything tries to assault your squishy, squishy troops, you keep dropping ordnance on them. Thunderwolves? Piles of S10 Ap2, they'll fail a save eventually. Land raider? Twelve twinlinked ordnance lascannons. Go chaos for your artillery wants. Pop transports, drop dangerous terrain on the troops so they're stuck, drop artillery at leisure
>>48047928
The choppiest chop would be a level 3 great unclean one with the eternal blade and greater reward
or
the 250 point bloodthirster, of fury something something, with skullreaver, two greater rewards and one lesser.
If you want cheap but good go keeper, put all your points in to the other ones.
>>48048035
Why not take the formation with the respawning spore mines?
>>48048176
you don't get the ruinstorm warlord trait in 40k, and even if you did you would have to give up fateweaver's reroll
>>48048176
Nah Epidemius is too easy to kill. I deepstrike the GUO right into the mix turn 2. Instrument and Icons ensure he comes in, and doesnt scatter. Epidemius couldnt fill that role. He's also not an option for the Incursion Command formation.
>>48048200
http://www.statuesqueminiatures.co.uk/p/8774376/sma012-heroic-scale-female-heads.html
GW does not do faces very well, I suggest replacing them with better heads.
>>48048210
Well yeah anything with biomancy just default has access to warp speed and iron arm, but I'd rather give a big choppy daemon a relic rather than the eternal blade. Slaanesh psykers now using maniacal fury can actually turn any greater daemon into an unstoppable juggernaut too.
Skarbrand and Khorne reaver princes deserve a shout-out too
>>48048240
>Metal heads
For what purpose?
>>48047928
Depends on what I'm playing against. If there's a superheavy, bring the D-thirster. If I'm keeping it cheap, a Keeper. If someone's being clever and bringing Draigo, a LoC or fateweaver. General purpose? Gotta agree with the crowd and say ML3 GUO, or ML3 Keeper
>>48048238
Nah I mean epidemia, the relic flail for GUOs. iirc 20 point plague flail that causes toughness tests to the unit for each model removed.
>>48048288
Ah that. Nah I just give him the sword if I use a relic.
>>48048277
Aren't SoB metal? I tend to prefer not mixing my model materials. And those heads look a lot better then any other ones i have seen for this size.
>>48048269
The only thing the GUO is lacking is weapon skill, initiative and attacks which is everything the blade gives you along with +1S.
You can only get to I10 with the GUO with the blade, WS9 forces anyone ws4 to hit on 5s which is great when fighting terminators and more attacks never go amiss.
GUO is the only deamon that can really make use of the eternal blade other than maybe the LoC but there were always better relics for him.
>>48048322
>>48048277
They're pretty easy to use, just use super glue and putting them on plastic bodies become easy peasy.
>>48048466
Fucking ipad camera.
>>48048231
You know i totally forgot about that
Sporefield - 1800pts
>Formations
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
Sporefield - 180
-3x Mucolid Spore Cluster; 3x Mucolid Spore
-3x Spore Mine Cluster; 3x Spore Mine
![TheRing2[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/OlvgkFN.png "TheRing2[1].png")
>>48048508
But why? How much fun is this really going to be?
>>48048508
They are non-scoring units, would you not auto lose turn one?
>>48048466
Dang Australians.
>>48048484
>take the pic
>open pic, tap edit
>rotate pic 1 turn, save
>tap edit again
>rotate pic so its correctly positioned
>save
Never post an upside down or sideways pic again.
>>48048575
No one has that many mucolids anyway. Dude is just being a tard. That gimmick was funny about a year ago, its old news now.
>>48048580
He can still win, he just needs to table the opponent. With spore mines.
>>48047787
>Painting my 4th gen Daemonettes
>I almost painted them all
>Decent job
>next in line are my Diaz Daemonettes
>30 of them
>I am not worthy
An anon posted this in the general that was made before this one.
>>48046689
https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Blog/ENGWD021_025_web.pdf
>>48048589
>take pic
>open pic on ipad
>no problem, looks normal
>post it from ipad because i can't find the cable
>strayacunt
If I had posted it from my computer, I'd have resized it too and given is a name I could easily find.
>>48048635
I have painted a ton of catachans and orcs, I found skin is so much fun to paint and I'd love to pain some Diazmonettes, problem is I have none.
>>48048575
you'll never know until you try it out
>>48048580
its the thought that counts really
>>48048605
you could cut the mucolids in 1/3rd and double the spore mines for the same points, but yeah nobody has 30+ mucolids
>>48048508
>>48048575
>>48048616
I kinda wanna try pitting my guardsmen against and army like that. Sounds like a fun scenario idea.
>>48048749
a problem quickly becomes evident that getting that many spore mines is nigh impossible due to how shittily GW has made them available, you'd have to spend over $2k just to get enough for 30 mucolids and 180 spore mines
Does anyone have a link to the updated version of imperial armor 11
The one on the mega is out of date
>>48048656
If you follow the steps I gave you, it will work. Re-orient it, save, re-orient it back to right side up. Save.
>>48048833
Scratchbuilding them doesn't seem terribly difficult
Trying to make a list to mess around with my new Draigo. How does this look? Am I close to having something decent? Termie squad with halberds goes with Draigo and Librarian.
+++ Draigo (1850pts) +++
Grey Knights: Codex (2014) (GK Nemesis Strike Force)
HQ
Librarian [Domina Liber Daemonica, Nemesis warding stave, Psyker [ML 3], Storm bolter]
Troops
Terminator Squad
··2x Terminator (halberd) [2x Nemesis force halberd]
··Terminator (hammer) [Nemesis Daemon hammer]
··Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon]
··Terminator Justicar [Two Nemesis falchions]
2x Terminator Squad [2x Terminator (sword)]
··Terminator (hammer) [Nemesis Daemon hammer]
··Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force sword, Psycannon]
··Terminator Justicar [Two Nemesis falchions]
Heavy Support
2x Nemesis Dreadknight [Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis greatsword and power fist, Personal teleporter]
Lords of War
Kaldor Draigo
++ Inquisition: Codex (2013) (Inq Inquisitorial Detachment) ++
HQ
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor [Liber Heresius, 3x Servo Skulls]
Terminator Armour [Nemesis Daemon hammer, Storm Bolter]
Elites
Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband
[Psyker]
4x Acolyte [Bolter, Chainsword, Flak Armour]
Land Raider Redeemer [Multimelta, Psybolt Ammunition, Psyflame Ammunition]
I really want to play Corsairs for a few reasons. Mostly because I have the bits lying around to make like half the army already. Also because they could look cool (ie like DE mostly) but don't suck as bad as DE. What's their power level like? Opinions from anyone who played them? I don't want to be too OP, but also want to avoid DE syndrome.
Every single unit would either be Jet Infantry, a Jetbike, or have Deep Strike or Infiltrate (or sometimes more than one of the above), plus the Psyker with Aethermancy. There'd only be 2 vehicles though (Hornets). Would this make me a faggot? I seriously can't tell if it would be OP or not because I usually playcraftworlds and deldar
tl;dr I want my army to play like how DE does in the fluff, is Corsairs a good idea?
>>48048405
yeah but you can get those via biomancy still and the eternal blade is just a D3 bonus. I'd rather take two greater rewards and a lesser weapon possibly if I'm going for a relic.
Can the CSM FAQs somehow make a shit unit better?
Has something like this happened to other codexes? Like BA dreads getting +2A?
Finally got the hang of the airbrushes. HQ Daemon Prince for my Night Lords Warband, cant wait to show him off tomorrow night.
>>48048948
>Has something like this happened to other codexes? Like BA dreads getting +2A?
>Has X happened to other codexes? Like [example of X happening]
m8...
But to be fair, a lot of the BA FAQ seemed to me to be nerfs. I am not at all familiar with BA though so maybe it was just confirming rules for people who can't read.
>>48048833
>>48048921
Literally all you need to do is make a big ball of milliput and score it with a small implement. Let it harden and hang it with wire. Done.
If anything, this is a nice way to make a fun theme army for less than 40 euros.
>>48048992
Yeah sorry I realized it sounded retarded after I posted.
>>48048992
Yeah BA faq was mostly clarifications. Just making sure we were clear on the fact that their formations suck, Mephiston sucks, and Assaults, Vanguards, and Termis are inexplicably more expensive than SM units of the same type (that also have more, better options).
The Dread and Scout thing was errata'd last week. So the tards claiming BA were buffed in their faq are just tards.
>>48048948
They can make that when Possessed and Warp Talons buy their Mark, they also get the Daemon rule of the same God.
This is exactly how they work in the Khorne Daemonkin, so it make sense for them to Errata them like that.
Still, it won't make them good, but it's something.
>>48049068
I havent opened the CSM book in a while, but dont Warp Talons already have the Daemon special rule? Or do you mean 'Daemon of X' thats in the Daemons codex?
>>48049096
Deamon of X
If you look in the Khorne Daemonkin, Warp Talons and Possessed both have the Daemon of Khorne rule.
>>48048946
Nope, warp speed only gets you to I7 which can be matched or beaten by other combatants and doesn't boost your WS.
If you're going to meme all over things like dreadknights and other masterful monsters in close combat you want to be WS9
>>48048935
Looks pretty standard, nothing really weird here...
>That Inquisition
OK, i would say drop the Redeemer, swap the Inquisitor for either something cheap or take Coteaz instead as he's ten times better than termie malleuses. Then, blob your henchmen to eleven dudes and a psyker, and use them as rear objective holders. If you have points left over, give the acolytes stormbolters.
>>48049053
>Errata the Dreads and Scouts to be the same
>"Of course your other units are different, l2read faggot they're different"
why did GW do this?
serious question
>>48049131
Just curious. Is the Prometheus Land Raider still legal? Some sites say it isn't, but Battlescribe has it as an option.
>>48049121
Right, but thats not a special rule in the CSM codex. Only Daemon Princes get that stuff in the CSM book. So they'd be adding a rule in an faq, which I dont see happening.
>>48049165
Its out of date. Some people will question it, some won't, i wouldnt mind playing against it but i actually know how FW works, which some people still dont. Either way, its not that great, its better than basic land raiders but you're still paying for a land raider. You're basically paying a bunch of points for psyflame and a twin-linked psycannon.
>>48049210
Also, the main reason I'm running the Malleus Inquisitor, or any other non-Coteaz is for the Servo Skulls.
>>48049210
Isnt there a GK Land Raider in IA 2? Pretty sure there is, too lazy to go grab my book though.
>>48049239
I'd say keep him cheap, plonk him in a blob of acolytes and add in some heavy weapon servitors
>>48049203
The rules for the Daemons of X are present in the CSM book.
It won't be a FAQ but an Errata for coherence, which they already did for the Dread and the Scouts of the Blood Angels.
We can seriously ask for this.
>>48049296
Ah ok. I guess Ive forgotten a lot of that codex.
The makers of gorkamorka were going to make a similar eldar themed game on a craftworld? Why would CW eldar just murder each other?
Dark Eldar can just spawn more of themselves super quick but CW eldar have to make due with their 20 year long pregnancies, or something ridiculous.
>>48049394
>Tfw no "Escape from Commorragh" game
It would be full on pink mohawk style Shadowrun turned up to 11 with 40k shenanigans, I swear.
>>48049394
>The makers of gorkamorka
I found that funny, there were only ever a handful of guys working at games workshop as writers. Everything from 1st-4th edition 40k was near enough written by the same few people.
I dunno, maybe the idea was some sort of exodite raid and the objective was to defend or attack webway gates and the murdering each other thing was secondary (as it sort of was with the other skirmish games anyway). Maybe even the game itself being released would have rewritten eldar lore entirely.
>>48049394
i think there's been at least 1 conflict between 2 craftworlds over some bullshit. they should be more logical but in this setting you can't trust people
>no you gtfo, our farseers say we have to dance counter clockwise on tuesday at this spot
>mon'keigh fuckers, our farseers say we gotta tango under the moonlight on thursday
>>48048953
put some washes on it
>>48048948
not happening, csm is stuck in their build. the faq isn't gonna dramatically make them better and even giving 2 more attacks to dreads doesn't make them amazing.
>>48048943
corsairs aren't op (though you might get some looks for forgeworld)
>>48049394
What? Sorce?
>>48049536
>Corsairs aren't OP
Try telling that to my gaming group. Apparently they're just as bad as Craftworlds.
>>48049559
Do you or someone in the group play them?
>>48049536
Thanks for the reply. The FW thing has me doubly worried since if I win I imagine it will be "fucking overpowered forgeworld stuff, reeeeeeeee"
What's one rule you absolutely can't stand?
>>48049559
Perhaps you should stop raping your locals so hard Brother Captain Sempai.
>>48049553
Not that anon, nor do I have a source, but I've read interviews with Rick Priestley who spoke of how they thought that's where the miniature gaming market was going (and from the influx of skirmish games of today, they weren't really wrong) and decided to put a focus on pushing out a load of skirmish game box sets.
The issue was that this was when GW was getting properly successful across the world, so not long after the release of GoMo they went out and got everything reprinted in different languages and sent boxes all over without as much success as they were expecting. Nearly bankrupted the company even.
That put a stop to the other skirmish scale games they had planned, one of which surely could've been eldar based.
Would Lemartes be worth taking in a BA list if he didn't take up an elites slot?
He only costs 25 points more than a BA Chaplain with a Jump Pack and he comes with Fury Unbound, Feel No Pain, Rage, Relentless and his Crozius is master-crafted
>>48049588
>>48049624
I haven't even gotten to play them. I started my DE army with the intent to alternate between the two. I asked them if they even read the rules. They're like "YEAH I READ THEM, THEY GET THE BEST FROM ELDAR AND DARK ELDAR AND MAKE IT CHEAPER", citing shadowfields, scatterlasers, etc.
>>48049536
>Corsairs arent OP
You have no idea what you're talking about.
>>48049677
For sure, he should be an upgrade to a death company squad.
>>48049616
Ignores Cover
>>48049616
Mob rule.
>>48049677
Fuck no, isnt he like 140 points? If you're going BA special characters, take Astorath. Putting him in a jump pack DC deathstar with a Librarian? Nasty.
>>48049616
Gets Hot! and any variations of it.
It's why I never take plasma in any list if I can avoid it.
>>48049616
Whatever Tzeench Daemons rerolls on 1's rule is called. That shit is ANNOYING AS FUCK because a friend always manages to reroll into a good save.
>>48049616
mob rule
>>48049746
I am with this Anon. Ignores Cover is unfluffy and makes foot armies pointless.
>>48049729
probably, i haven't played them or done much besides glance at 1d4 and the book. i'd place them behind the current champs though
>>48047200
makes sense.
>>48047128coming from the dark side of this conversationI can say that the above anon is partially right, as theusponyfags seem to search out creative mediums. But also because its an interesting mix of bright childhood things and grimdark adult themes. Keep in mind though ponyfags had hobbies before it and Warhammer is much older than the current pony tv show as it is. So they could have been into warhammer before ponies.
>>48049616
Cowardly Grots.
You mean to tell me a vehicle Squadron now takes a panic check and ignores Effigy as a rule?
>>48049767
He's 130 points.
He also strikes at initiative 7 if you have the red thirst.
Quickening puts him at potentially 8 strength 7 attacks at initiative 10.
If he has taken a wound, up that to 9 strength 8 attacks, re-rolling misses on the first round of combat.
Astorath is good but he always strikes at initiative 1.
>>48049616
Cowardly Grots
>>48049616
Ignores cover on anything but flamers
>>48047594
>CC Jetbikes
>Venoms
>WAAC
Fucking really? Anon was at least running an interesting themed list and not just playing Craftworlders with nothing but Scatterlasers, Wraithknights, and Warp Spiders.
>>48049681
Then you play with idiots. They gain a bunch, but also lose out on haemonculi and constructs, psykers who arent slaanesh-bait and all the other 'best' stuff. The game with them is basically decided by the end of their turn two-either the enemy is too weakened to strike back, or you get gunned down like grots. They're very, very strong on the attack, but die easier than Deldar. Put them above non-convocation admech and kdk
>>48049284
How's this looking?
+++ Draigo (1850pts) +++
++ Grey Knights: Codex (2014) (GK Nemesis Strike Force) ++
Librarian [Digital weapons, Domina Liber Daemonica, Nemesis warding stave, Psyker [ML 3], Storm bolter]
3x Terminator Squad
2x Terminator (halberd) [2x Nemesis force halberd]
Terminator (hammer) [Nemesis Daemon hammer]
Terminator (psycannon) [Nemesis force halberd, Psycannon]
Terminator Justicar [Two Nemesis falchions]
2x Nemesis Dreadknight [Heavy Incinerator, Heavy Psycannon, Nemesis greatsword and power fist, Personal teleporter]
Kaldor Draigo
++ Inquisition: Codex (2013) (Inq Inquisitorial Detachment) ++
Inquisitor Coteaz
Ordo Malleus Inquisitor [Liber Heresius, 3x Servo Skulls]
Power Armour [Hellrifle, Power Sword]
Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband
[Psyker]
11x Acolyte [Chainsword, Flak Armour, Storm Bolter]
Inquisitorial Henchmen Warband
[Psyker]
8x Acolyte [Chainsword, Flak Armour, Storm Bolter]
3x Servitor (Heavy Weapon) [Multi-melta]
>>48049616
Look out sir on sniper fire
>>48049908
They also cite that they're OP because they have their own strong powers and a different Perils table. THE PERILS TABLE IS WORSE. You don't perils and make it out completely fine, there is a consequence even for the "best" result.
>>48049845
Eh, Astorath is pretty much there to buff the DC deathstar.
>>48049944
people noticing shooters and diving in front of their VIP is the standard example of it, though
>>48049906
I was referring to his opponents attitude. Not anons list; but I can see how my reply could have been unclear.
>>48049913
Dude, stop.
>>48048688
> but yeah nobody has 30+ mucolids
> 30+ mucoloids
... I do...
And I've run 3 full sporefields in an apoc game once. Basically free distruption, cover, and ordinance for my team.
>>48049681
your friends have obiviously just read meme-opinions in the shitty parts of the internet.
>>48049849
Seriously, it feels like the guy who wrote the rules had a friend who kept owning him with a list of nob bikers and kans.
>>48049999
Quads of authority have spoken. Stop spamming the general with that Draigo list. Post your painted army or NPA.
>>48050051
Give me a second, if that's the case.
>>48049986
But that could be for any shot. Rolling a 6 to hit should mean a good ole fashioned head shot.
>>48050031
I believe 100% that the person who wrote the Orks codex was some kind of intern with no prior experience.
>>48050164
this isn't real life
40k operates on book/movie/comic/video game logic. The secret servicemen will dive in front of that sniper until it's heroically appropriate for the space president to die.
>>48050051
>>48050109
We are the hammer.
Cross post from other thread, didn't realize this was a more used thread.
> This also wouldn't be a proper general without me showing up to mention Valentine. I've spent another hour putting more basecoats on him, this time trying to basecoat smaller things, and adding in the details for his eyes, and sensor dish.
I have recently received a new INSPIRATION too! I think it should be possible to use these new gemstone paints to create super-detailed eyes! I could paint an eye silver, and put a small dot of soulstone blue in it, followed by a smaller dot of abaddon black.. Which would make a full eye and iris! Tomorrow I'm going to experiment with this.
>>48050492
I really hate to be that guy, but seriously, that looks awful. Thin your paints and trim your mold lines, and try to resist the urge to glue random bits of garbage to your models.
>>48050285
Im inclined to believe the theory that they hold certain armies down, while making others stronger in an effort to push sales of those armies. The reasons Im leaning toward this are
>its hard to imagine them being unable to see how much weaker Orks and CSM are, than Tau and Eldar
>I dont believe GW management leaves things to chance. Theyre publicly traded, and so have to answer to a board. They are very in control of every aspect of their business. I dont see rules being any different.
>Manipulating balance is a legitimate, if unscrupulous way to influence sales. I dont think anyone would argue that Games Workshop is above this.
>I think its a bigger leap of faith to claim that no one at GW was aware of the imbalance, then it is to say that they knew exactly what they were doing.
>There are examples of GW using rules to drive sales. Formations being an obvious one. Limited edition bundles with 'exclusive' rules is another.
I hope that they have realized this drives away as many or more players than it does bring new ones in. Their game is an absolute mess, and its by their own hand. The next 12 months are going to decide the future of this game. If they truly have turned over a new leaf, and understand the value of a quality product - and more specifically how tabletop games gain new players - we should see some very drastic changes to the way they manage 40k.
Or we'll see more Death from the Skies, Angels of Death Psychic abilities, and Eldar/Ork codexes.
>>48050434
Well done, Sir.
>>48050525
How about you consider not telling everyone with a model you don't like to thin their paints, even when the model already is being painted with 65% water. That's unhelpful, fuck off.
>>48050492
E-bay pro painted tier.
>>48050575
Try not loading the brush so heavily then. Or at least trying to figure out what the problem is that's leaving huge blobs of paint all over your minis instead of getting butthurt when someone points it out.
>tfw calculating the costs to start up a new army
>looks reasonable at first
>add in the last part
>price jumps super high
Do you lads prefer to buy your whole army at once, or piece by piece?
>>48050575
Well, it looks like its still a wip. Having said that, there some suspect areas. I cant tell if its from bad primer, or wash/ink settling on flat surfaces though.
I think once its finished, and sealed, it will look fine though.
But damn nig, that thing has been a wip for a long time. Finish it.
>>48049616
Champions of Chaos.
>>48050575
Overthinning is a thing.
Don't fly into an autismo rage just because someone said your model looks bad.
>>48050627
probably bad primer. I tried using Aluminium coloured primer, and it just doesn't feel right to me at all. The only thing it's good for is letting me skip the painting-metalics step, since I can just go straight to wash and detailing. It's probably the reason why my paint is pooling all over the place. There's really nothing I can do except put paint medium in, and try my best to make it as even as possible.
Finally having money to get -new- paints is the reason why I'm actually getting around to painting him.
>>48050575
Calm down bro, your Deredeo isnt bad. We all have to suffer through the growing pains of painting and modeling. It's important to be honest with yourself, and recognize mistakes. That's the only way you will be able to improve.
>>48050668
Are the barrels and legs what the primer looked like on the whole thing? Or did the primer go on smooth and your paint isn't adhering to it?
>>48050704
The primer went on smooth, the model was fuckered to begin with, and was a hack to assemble. The barrels had huge mold lines that I spent hours scraping off, so those are actually depressions in the barrels.
Legs and barrels are what the primer looks like, so yes. The black paint is having a hard time adhering to it.
>>48050624
Depends on where you are buying them from.
Ebay? All in one go is usually okay.
Anywhere else though, I'd just get them one by one.
But I prefer to buy them piece by piece no matter where I buy them from though.
I also stagger purchases so that way while I'm waiting for a model to come in the mail, I paint another one.
>>48050668
Ah ok. Well lesson learned huh. But like I said, it's not bad, and you certainly shouldnt be embarrased or ashamed of it. It's tabletop quality, and your ability to recognize you can improve is the most important thing here. You obviously have brush control, and an eye for modeling. Add some experience to that and you will be better than most. Field that Deredeo with pride anon.
>>48050730
You can probably salvage the body with wet sanding. If the body was also gouged like the barrels and legs you might be able to salvage them with a heavy basecoat and wet sand like the body, but you're probably better off stripping them and repairing the gouges with a smoothcoat of greenstuff, then using the trusty old Krylon matte black primer.
>>48050730
I know a lot of people say that auto primer or krylon, etc. are acceptable primers. But in all my years of doing this, I've found only three products that get the job done right.
Citadel spray cans
Army Painter spray cans
Vallejo acrylic polyurethane surface primer
>>48050434
that blanket looks cozy as fuck.
>>48050754
My LGS sells at GW prices and I'm a weirdo who only pays in cash, so I guess I'll segment it first.
Maybe buy all my infantry and then save the artillery and Scions for another time.
>>48050804
I hate Army Painter's black, it claims to be a matte black but it comes out shiny as fuck and always seems to melt details.
>>48050762
Oh, I did learn something useful at least out of this. Aluminium primer is still useful for things like Knights, so I can streamline the innards painting. I've only been painting for a year, but I do enjoy learning new techniques and experimenting with all kinds of things.
>>48050793
The body was perfect.. Those gouges in it are completely intentional on my part, I used a crafting knife to carve I-XL-XX into the hull, which represents the War on Murder legacy.
>>48050804
Duly noted, I have had nothing but shit results from anything labeled as "Paint+Primer" or the shit from Krylon. At this point I'm thinking that you get exactly what you pay for with primer.
>>48050804
>>48050836
after some bad experiences with krylon and a few other primers, I now only trust Citadel black for fine details, Army Painter color sprays for bigger things like vehicles (I noticed it gunks up easily on infantry). How's Corax White? I have a can of it but I still haven't found any use for it yet so it's sitting in my shed.
>>48050825
It is, anon. It is.
>>48050843
oddly enough I've had really nice results from valspar premium paint+primer, it tends to go on extremely smooth though it takes quite a while to dry
>>48050804
I don't think I'll ever find a primer close to Citadel's Chaos black. That shit seems to go on perfect, but I don't want to bust $20 a can. A paint I did find though that goes on INSANELY FLAT even if you overspray a bit is pic related. Only downside is that sometimes the model may get a gritty texture that rubs off on your hands.. After it rubs off, though. Smooth as a baby's butt.
>>48050836
Well at GW's prices I would say do one or two boxes at a time.
>>48050927
Good point.
Think I'd have more to work with if I got a Cadian box and a Cadian Command Squad box, or one of the three Start Collecting Scions boxes I need?
>>48050836
I only use Gunmetal primer for Army Painter. Black I use Citadel rattle cans or Vallejo surface primer.
Anyone ever tried this stuff for minis? I've never used it on plastic, but it sticks to glass, chrome, and galvanized steel like a motherfucker. It's also got a stupid high VOC content, which means you can spray it on in a thick runny mess and it will dry perfectly flat every time. It's pretty fucking magical. Pricey, though.
>>48050973
Never heard of it. Thin, even, and smooth is good though.
>>48050942
Well, in my opinion, I'd say get the Scions box. Not only do you get more variety, but while you save up cash for your next purchase you can paint them.
>>48050963
How is Vallejo's surface primer?
It's hot as fuck where I live lately and I can't use rattle cans.
>>48051023
Good points, I'll start with the Scions. I'm making a shift away from Space Marines to a Guard army, and I can just ally in the Scions until my Guard force gets bigger.
>>4805092
>That shit seems to go on perfect
it does, but for some reason their white is pretty balls in my experiance. Other products are just better.
>>48051049
Well depending on what you need for your Guard, switch between getting vehicles/artillery and infantry units. Variety is important when painting stuff.
As an Ork player I can say that painting the 5 same bodies over and over gets boring as shit fast.
>>48047324
No one cares brah.
Enjoy the models or whatevs.
>>48047401
Now if the other fag had these I wouldn't mind him never shutting up. Oh well
>>48048466
>Metal head
>Plastic body
Blackflips: The Mini
>>48047455
Captain Catachan approves
>>48050624
Piece by piece
>>48047950
Our one 'good' formation just got neutered with the whole no teleport Homers from inside transports thing.
Shelve them for now, wait two more years
Predator squadrons of Night Lords supported by terminators or Helbrute pack of Alpha Legion with cultists
>>48049908
Oh yeah, when I think 'dies easier than Dark Eldar'
>jet bikes with not only SCATSPAM but dark lances
>Hornets. Dual pulsar for days
> two D blasts in a 5 Hull point HS choice
>'on the razors edge' allowing a jetbike unit to cross the board in a single fucking turn
What the fuck are you smoking? They blow fucking DELDAR out the water, and really only lack Wraith Knight access to be totally broken. Also, with their special snowflake psychic powers, thank God there is a risk to using their powers... Oh wait bikes can't be pinned? And that's the mostly likely outcome (don't even lose a fucking wound)? Nevermind that then
Who are the angriest of the loyalist chapters?
Why don't rough riders get hit and run? Isn't that the point of lance-based cavalry?
Hell, why don't all cavalry and bike units just have H&R standard?
Question for Inquisitor players, is the bonus the Tome of Vethric gives only for the Inquisitor or does the unit its attached to get it as well? It feels like an almost straight downgrade to Liber Heresius if its not.
>>48051525
Codex says "just the bearer."
The tradeoff is that the Heresius only gets one use each and you need an Ld test each time.
>>48051511
black templars after getting put into the vanilla book
>>48051543
That's what I thought, shame. 1 in 6 chance to fail isn't that much of a downside, though.
Anyway, this is a comp list I'm trying to put together for 2000 points. Currently only using 1927 points but I'm cautious to add Liber Heresius, Inq Grenades or Stormspear as they raise my comp score. Still tossing up between a Warden or a Paladin.
[Oathsworn Detachment] 750 points
> 2x - Knight Warden
[Inq Detachment] 72 points
> 1x - Ordo Xenos Inquisitor; ML1, Power Armour, Force Sword, 3x Servo Skulls
[Kill Team Cassius] 535
(no possible upgrades)
[Officio Assassinorum Formation] 570
4 of each assassin.
>>48051511
Pretty sure it's the Flesh Tearers.
>>48051547
You mean Black Templars after having been utterly neutered by GW.
Canonically 1300 men now!
>>48051665
Don't put your inquisitor into melee, he'll get ripped to pieces. Give him a conversion beamer and a blob of Acolytes and a few Crusaders to bodyguard him.
Also, K-T Cassius isn't awfully good from what I hear.
Just finished up a 750pt game against my buddy so he can try out his new mat and Castelin robots. I purposely didn't take a decurion, we fought until turn 6, I narrowly lost and had a great time with it.
I starting to think I want to avoid running a decurion altogether just to keep things fun and fair(ish).
Here's a shitty pic I grabbed with my potato.
How was your last game?
Discuss
>>48051920
What's in the white boxes?
>>48051933
No idea, my friend sent me this picture. Apparently he's at a tourney where they let people borrow their superheavies.
>>48051920
Boah, some really old armorcast stuff in there
>>48051946
Oh, damn. I just noticed it's Floorhammer. But those are some cool Eldar superheavies.
>>48051920
I feel NOTHING
>>48051736
>Necrons v admech
My cybernetic cock is simulating an erection.
>>48052007
>My cybernetic cock is simulating an erection.
No erection protocols were orginally enabled. Who has authorized this heretical data, anon? Tell us.
>>48052028
Papa G-Emps had a request put in after his golden loins was visited by a disturbingly attractive lesbian war bitch
I'm sure most of you have seen this already...
>>48052076
Am I the only motherfucker who doesn't like spongebob now. It was fun in my childhood but looking back at it I just can't even
>>48052112
you're not the only one, post the first spongebob movie quality goes down
Folks at my LGS ran a scenario today where 8 players brought 500 points of their army to the table to face off against two players with respawning Tyranids. Got about four turns done in six hours.
>>48052112
Yes, out of the millions of people that watched Spongebob growing up, you are literally the only person to have outgrown the show. Just you. Everyone else still watches the show as avidly as other.
>>48052146
And here's another photo from the opposite side of the table.
>>48052131
to explain a bit because its not a matter of the quality of any of the episodes, but instead I really just don't like to look back on it. Even the memes feel 'off' to me. Too much fast movement and useless loud noises/squeaky voices
Yeah i'm fun at parties
>>48052146
>all those unpainted flyrants
Absolutely cancerous.
>>48052112
Nah man, everything past season 4(?) and the first movie is just gone downhill. They really should've canceled it by now.
>>48052184
I found bad dragons next toy
>>48051148
As a nid player I envy your selection of 5 bodies
>>48051049
Its great, it needs to be thinned a lot more than any of the game or model air lines. But when you get the consistency right, it goes on as smooth and thin as you could want. I wouldnt use it through a .25 though. I like it because its easier to control than a rattle can, and I can use black, grey, brown, khaki, white, etc.
But I still use rattlecans too.
>>48052112
>>48052131
>>48052164
>>48052186
It's just that /co/, and most of the internet, like to circle jerk the first 3 seasons as the God-Emperor's gift to comedic animation. Could be that they were actually well made, or it could be that they have nostalgia goggles glued tightly to their faces.
>>48052316
what can i say, old tech is best tech
>>48051736
That looks just as ghetto as any game I've run.Looks fun anon.
>>48052184
thanks doc
>>48048635
>Own 20 Diaz daemonettes and 5 riders
>Fantasy army is mono Tzeentch
>No motivation to start chaos 40k
>>48051736
I will have new photos to answer this question with next month, I promise.
>>48051969
>Boah
spotted the german and/or austrian. seas oida.
>>48051511
Flesh Tearers, Space Sharks, Black Templars, any other Blood Angels successor... Come to think of it there an awful lot of angry loyalists
>>48052076
Dark Angels and Word Bearers made me chuckle
>>48050627
and get rid of the shield that covers the missile launcher, jesus.
>>48047418
It's as if memesters are uncreative hacks that just ape others.
>>48049036
Or go for oldschool gw style, wire stem, styrofoam ball, toothpick spikes.
>>48049616
ATSKNF
>>48050285
They did come out and admit that noone played orks and noone had any idea what to do with them.
Whats the best marine style to represent Astral Claws? Standard marine sprues? HH Tacticals?
A friend of mine brought a Crimson slaughter chaos lord with both daemon heart and axe of blind fury. There is a rule that limits you to one relic per carracter, correct? He says that it is allowed because the relics are from diffeerent codexes but I argue the list of relics is just expanded and they count as the same. being that the new supplements allow you to bring relics from main codex an supplement. Can he bring them both?
>>48053473
Badab war was recent enough for standard era marines
>>48049616
Markerlights
>>48053604
The Marine profile pic on most sites has them in Mark IV Power Armor which i actually love the look of. Plus with the "Centurion" theme they have I figured the plumed helmets would go well. Is there similar bits in the standard kits?
>>48053650
Check out the forgeworld ultramarine upgrade pack.
>>48053505
If he fields him as that specific character he can bring all his toys like other special characters,
The relics do however count as being "used" by him so he cannot include a second copy of any of them.
Kranon would fall under the "specificly noted otherwise"
I just finished Dead Men Walking today. Pretty great book, even though I generally don't like the super-serious GRIM AND DARK kind of things, this managed to pull it off without being cheesey.Even through all that grimdark I hope that Soreson managed to somehow blow the fuck out of that tomb and save the world before it got Exterminatus'd.
>>48053723
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NZ/Ultramarines-MkIV-Praetorian-Heads-Upgrade-Set
This one? yeah that would work but I think the Calth sets would end up being cheaper considering the pound has dropped. Thanks for the help tho m80.
>>48053737
no he wouldn't
Kranon's not a character, he was "Take a Chaos Lord, give him this equipment, call him Kranon." No longer possible.
>>48050543
I think the problem is that they're literally the NPC race. GW doesn't want to make them really good, because most people just proxy their Orks and it won't actually help sales. So GW just uses them as a baseline to show how much better and more awesome all the profitable factions are.
>>48053830
Is his predefined Relic set "noted specificly elsewhere"?
Just a yes or no will do.
My local shop has really corny promos and I love it
>>48053975
10913 Parkside Dr, Knoxville, Tennessee
>>48053975
Might need to pay a visit to kink shame you.
>>48054144
>>48054184
Thank goodness I don't live in the same townI'm within 30 minutes of it though. Plz be gentle
Hey guys, quick Ork question.
I don't have my Ork codex on hand, and someone told me that the Mek Gun Lobba is twinlinked.
Is this true? I only ever read the entire thing once, but I don't recall it being TL.
