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>Shoot straight
>Conserve ammo
>And be the Hero that your mentor spirit knows you can be.
Are you a hero or a villain, chummers?
I had to move out of my nice SK arcology and into a glorified W.C. When I started running... It's nothing like on the trids :< I share a cot with a mountain of a girl and there's no door for the toilet.
>>47987847
Omae, I have no time for your moral dilemmas, I'm trying to make some Nuyen here.
If I can stroke my oh-so-altruistic ego while doing it, even better. But if I have to geek the sweet innocent little daughter of the corp bigshot to send a message from a special someone with a lotta cash to spare? Guess what - Lonestar is going to be looking for a child killer.
Simple as that.
>>47987892
You said you were into that though.
>>47988022
The colossal girl? Oh, yes. The lack of a featherbed, private w.c., and steady influx of nuyen? Oh, no no.
>>47987924
Me favorite kind of run!
>>47988050
That is unofficial, right?
>>47988063
Scrapped artwork from fo1, for the child killer perk, chummer. Got cut because it was too offensive.
>>47987924
It's never too late to redeem yourself omae.
>>47988252
Stop telling runners to an hero, corporate scum. We know your real angle here!
What's the point of heroism if nobody sees it? It's why LA is the best place for 'runners in the world! Regular income from media deals, cheap equipment from advertising tie ins, being invited to all the best parties... It's the fucking life, man.
And you get all sorts of cool shit. I'm doing a promo for Ares and netting myself a prototype electrolaser. Just gotta pose and flash the logo to the camera a couple of times a run, no biggy.
>>47988297
I picked the wrong bloody city... From Essen to the Tijuana Metroplex, why didn't i just skip the Aztlan bullshit and go to LA? Bugger my crew, I'm going to be on the trid!
>>47988319
Why did you leave the glorious Ruhrplex, my chummer?
Pissed off the golden wyrm?
We out of the Pott stand together!
What are you going to do with some prissy
blonde bimbos in LA anyway?
I want to buttfuck a gnome.
>>47988332
Somebody may have set up an SK trust fund. SK trusted their humble head of Accounting, and the Head of Accounting acquired funds.
Ahem.
>prissy blonde bimbos
Well the hope is that they're troll blonde bimbos, and the answer to that question is hopefully be adorable enoughfor them to pity fuck me
>>47988355
So glad I'm not the only relentless shitposter this morning.
>>47988332
>>47988359
Break into the biz in LA, and you'll have girls of every shape and size lining up to get your attention. They might be as shallow as a puddle, but when you get bored of one you can just move on to the next. And it's equally true of the guys, for ladies or mens men.
Then again, a romance with a teammate is great for trid views. The drama inherent in it really hooks in an audience. And if you can set up a love triangle, well, you might as well be printing money.
>>47988377
If this massive beautiful angry troll sammy doesn't work out, you can bet my sweet yamatetsu polymer ass I'm dragging my gorgeous heartbroken self up north to trid city.okay but please let it work out i think i'm in love with you gunnr
>>47988359
Couldn't you buy a nicer face with
half of that dragon's hoard in your pockets?
Your money management skills are abysmal, I gather.
Your taste in women, though, is excellent.
But why run half a world away?
Lofwyr's reach in the Troll Kingdom is laughable
and there are all the Troll, Giant and Fomori
women you could ever wish for.
Some cute ones aren't even that picky, if you catch my drift...
Come back to the ADL, we've got the better troll chicks!
>>47988377
Blegh. A shadowrunner soap opera, don't make me barf.
>>47988420
>nicer face
You cannot improve upon perfection, luv
>>47988434
Well, let's hope they don't get to rough with you there, beanstalk.
If push comes to err shove with a troll lady in the sheets?
Oh boy, you better have some bone-lacing or you'll end up like pic related.
Alright, I'm done shitposting for the night/morning. Thank you for putting up with my insufferable ass, /srg, you're the best.maybe if I ever go to sleep I'll wake up this afternoon and show my gratitude by sketching more runners
>>47988287
But anon, I'myour mentor spirit
>>47987892
At least you have a toilet. You know how long it took me to get enough cred to afford to move out of a squatter camp and into a real apartment without bankrupting myself? I had to run a gang of organleggers out of the sewers just to get my neighbors to trust me enough to share some of their food. I had to burn off my skin in an acid bath just to get the stench of raw sewage off of me. And forget about ever wearing those clothes again.
>>47987847
>Are you a hero or a villain, chummers?
>needing to even ask the question
The 2050's are dead.
>>47989117
>Still don't understand which side everyone is supposed to be on
>>47989778
>what did she mean by this?
>>47987847
>Are you a hero or a villain, chummers?
Our hacker was the sysadmin for a BTL server farm.
>>47989117
You're dead
>>47990800
I've been interested in shadowrun for a long time but I don't know anyone who plays. I want to rp a lawyer.
>>47988514
Dammit, I'm starting to see things. Fucking dementia. Where did I put my meds?
Alright, so we've got a rigger, right? And that rigger jumps into a drone that is equipped with a drone arm with a melee weapon strapped to it (basis being the rigger uses his drones on par to what other people use BTLs for; live in some sort of fantasy life).
Question is: would this still run off of Gunnery+Agility (plus all the other bonuses) if he's jumped in, or would it use whatever skill the weapon is considered (such as Blades+Agility if he's using the claymore)
I really wish the life module system worked in chummer.
The worst part of generation system like that is the paperwork, so a generator that does it for you would be great... but it's the one part that doesn't even slightly work.
r8 my runner hair
Me >>47992940
I havent built the datajack yet, but its coming
Can structure/reinforce spell in 5th e be used on armor like lined coat?
I can only see it being used to table, door or something like that
>>47992961
I'll help you drill the hole. For science.
>>47992940
>>47992961
>no pink hair
>no fiberoptic strands woven in
>tattoos are not LEDs
retroposer/10. At leastit looks nice
>>47992973
Theoretically, nothing saying you can't, but it's clearly implied to only apply to buildings or other similar objects
>>47993082
I hot lavender coming in the post so i can cosplay my character [spoilers]helleb0re[/spoilers] at gencon
>>47993173
Bugger! I'm a faggot who forgot how to spoiler tag apparently
>>47993173
>>47993211
Not a good showing for a decker.have you built the arm yet
>>47992940
10/10 would fight the corps with
>>47993173
take pics pls, you've spontaniously given me a thing for elves
>>47993279
I'm waiting on the latex for the underglove so I can start heatforming craft foam and fitting the plates together! i'm really amped. I'll post progress throughout the year here in my favorite board, /srg.
Alright i've had 4 hours of sleep. Who wants drawings of their runnners.
>>47993322
A-anon, desu.... Im sorry i made you gay
>>47992940
You're a pretty cute fuckboy aside form your hideous water removable tattoos.
>>47993338
Hermetic native dwarf mage, with earring foci (several different materials and types of earrings per ear).I just want to see if you can draw something without cheekbones like razors
>>47993428
>without cheekbones like razors
My only weakness! I will try for you, anon
>>47987924
Edgy.
While trying to shitscribble my group using the Draw Your Group Template this question popped into my head.
Do any of the sourcebooks really go into detail about how the stuff you wear looks?
The armor vest and lined coat gets two vague descriptions that let you picture them but what clothes and stuff? Whats in vogue for the face?
I got all of 4e so just name a book if you wish.
would Shadowrun give a shit about a Brexit event?
do megacorps give a fuck if some countries stop being polito-buddies?
Tthis >>47987924 actually raises an interesting question. Is there anything that's off limits for your runners? Because both of the two characters I play would probably cap any runner if he actually went to kill a kid, teammate or not. Well, one definitely would, while the other probably just would refuse to act.
You see, they are there to survive in a shitty world, not make it worse. By being shadowrunners, they retain what little independence there is left in the fifth world, and that includes being able to turn down missions. Without principles, men are nothing.
>>47993713
As long as there is trade and the countries don't turn against the corps then no. But if they suddenly get more isolationist (foreign corps getting discriminated) or stop the trade then they will quickly decide to do something (see Aztlan)
>>47993338
Any or all (a small groupshot) of those will make me thankful as shit.
- Balding human male rigger in a trenchcoat, with a steaming mug of soykaf in hand patting a car with an obvious rocket launcher attached
- Dwarf male Jackie Chan
- An obviously corp, "expensive" redheaded elf gal with a cyberarm
- Ripped as fuck orc sammy with an AK in hands. Lots of internal cyber (muscle replacement et al) which slightly shows.
- Dwarf wolf shaman, ugly as sin.
>>47993713
I think the only kind of event Corps would care about is the kind that limits their extraterritoriality. Imagine if UK decided that Corps now answer directly to the government; shit would go down pretty fast there.
In the fluff, that couldn't happen, because corp court would magically prevent that from happening. In actuality, a government could easily make that decision, although there would be little for them to gain from it. However, this would be the kind of a principal question that the Brexit is about - are you willing to risk fucking up your economy to retain your sovereignity?
>>47993745
>Is there anything that's off limits for your runners?
They're morally bankrupt to the point that the kind of jobs that they would turn down probably wouldn't be offered to them.
>>47993428
>>47993769
Give me a few hours! I've still got an art trade I'm working on for moreshameful troll ladiesbut I'll be working on these intermittently. They'll be shitty half- sketches, as a warning.
>>47993817
Our runners would get along very poorly. In fact, I think they would feel uncomfortable with running with morally bankrupt people in the first place.
>>47993845
Thanks!
I'd post some troll dick hand-picked for you, but y'know blue board and all.
>>47992338
How good or bad is it working right now? I never use it. Did you fill any bugreports about the stuff tat doesn't work?
>>47993665
Attitude talks about fashion trends, and you can glean stuff here and there in various books. Shadowrunner chic (trenchcoats and mirrorshades) was the height of fashion in 2050, but it's dipped since then, and people are more likely to think 'runner' than 'trendy' if they see you on the town in your lined coat and deckbag.
You've got casual wear, which goes from regular 2016 clothing to stuff with with tribal and Japanese influences (fringe jackets belted with silk, beaded kimonos for indoor wear, etc).
Steampunk is back in fashion, as is post-apoc wear, so you can find someone in an updated 3-piece with brass accents and a derby hat (with trodes inside) working in marketing, or kids going clubbing with ripped pants held up by chains with AR skulls on their belts. There's more suble variations (cog-shaped buttons, bullet-shaped berets woven into the hair), obviously.
And that's not getting into holowear, Awakened clothing, corp styles, and all that. Whole bunch of stuff out there.
>>47993745
Can't really afford being picky right now. Either our DM is master and escalating shit or we're completely retarted - it all started with a small datasteal, followed by a countersteal, then we were hired by other side to capture Johnson ordering the 'steal, then we kinda fucked up, and had to blow our way through police blockades with rocket launcher. Now we're desperatly doing jobs for a guy that our face believes is Sylvestran (which I seriously doubt) in hopes of getting in touch with a legendary personality creator. Also, I'm convinced that SK officials had been helping us along the way, which makes me even more nervous.
My character would shoot anybody to get out of this mess.
>>47993987
>Either our DM is master and escalating shit or we're completely retarted
>retarted
Well, I wonder which it is.
>>47993925
Neat.
And hot.
>>47993987
>>47994003
Well, that's settled then.
>>47993358
Don't worry. It was anime that made me gay, you had nothing to do with it.
>>47993878
>I think they would feel uncomfortable with running with morally bankrupt people in the first place.
Wouldn't the shadows be filled with morally bankrupt people?
Gangers are after all often the guys who go into it.
>>47993713
Probably, as the european union allowing essentially free trade between member states is a big deal to corps.
>>47993845
>>47993902
...
so should we start a /aco/ thread or...
>>47993925
>beaded kimonos for indoor wear,
That's my fetish.
>>47994055
Nah, runners can be anything. Maybe they're gangers who have no place on the right side of the law, or maybe ex-mil who got discharged for some reason and you can't otherwise sell your skillset, maybe the guy's been laid off by a corp and has no other option left, or possibly people who value independence and refuse to sign up as a wage slave, or maybe they feel that the profits are higher when you don't have to care about taxes.
In my case, it's independence that drove them to the shadows.
>>47994088
Please do. There is a shocking lack of Shadowrun porn out there, especially considering all the waifus and husbandos the games introduced to us.
>>47994055
Most gangers are not 'murder children' sort of people. They're petty criminals who like the camaraderie of the gang. It's one thing to claim a neighbourhood and rough up some other punks for stepping on your turf, it's another to take cash in return for shooting a child in the head.
Besides, there's plenty of reasons to end up in the shadows other than 'gang activity'. Does anyone else remember the Neo-Anarchists, the eco-warriors, the people who saw the sickness in society and were determined to cut it out, or at least shine a light on it and convince the rest of metahumanity that they had been made slaves by dragons and corporations, but that they could not be kept slaves except by their own will? O Captain my Captain Chaos, I stand with you.
>>47994088
oh god please
>>47994146
>Does anyone else remember the Neo-Anarchists, the eco-warriors, the people who saw the sickness in society and were determined to cut it out, or at least shine a light on it and convince the rest of metahumanity that they had been made slaves by dragons and corporations, but that they could not be kept slaves except by their own will
Weren't those guys repeatedly fucked up?
>go looking for a site with a lot of SR fashion pics
>find a recommendation on a forum from a 3 year-old-thread
>the tumblr they linked to has since turned toponies
>>47994088
>>47994133
>>47994159
...let's do it, folks. Post whatever you've got.I now realized I don't really have anything gay due to, ya know, not finding men attractive.
>>47993665
>>47993925
Here's a table from Attitude, with a few different lines that are common; wageslave 'fashion' for those without the money or the daring to do any better.
>>47994369
And of course, I forgot the table.
>>47994387
>Animal patterned print one piece suits
Jesus Christ.
>>47993428
*i tried
>>47994055
I imagine you'd have a lot of terrorists/freedom fighters using shadowrunning to raise money. Also possibly the CIA now that gun running doesn't have the profit margins it used to.
>>47994175
>Weren't those guys repeatedly fucked up?
Sure, but so are normal runners.
>>47994433
Better than I expected, 2bh
>>47994387
>The Ares Victory line provides Gear Access
>>47994372
>>47994433
>native dwarf doesn't have a beard
das racist
Darkbeast Paarl does not want me to draw your shadowrunners, or do absolutely anything for that matter.
While he repeatedly digs his claws into my arms and face, please tell me about runs gone absolutely bad so I can laugh through the agony.
>>47993907
He's been told directly in the thread about the stuff that doesn't work.
It doesn't work at all, if there is anything that gives you any kind of choice it doesn't work period.
Where can I find some stat blocks for Ghouls and a vampire?
Got a plot I want to run. Should I just bullshit them?
>>47993338
Can you just draw something funny with mentor spirits?
Like Dragonslayer hitting on Spider or Adversary being mocked by others for his edgy followers?
>>47995111
>playing first campaign as technomancer, make character who Fades at the drop of a hat, but we have a real decker so it's fine
>run is simple- infiltrate manor of mid-level UO exec, steal an artifact from his vault (some magic globe he says is a fifth world relic)
>exec is hosting an 'open doors' party, where people lower on the UO chain could come to his house for a while and gawp at his stuff
>perfect- we get fake UO SINs, sneak in, grab it, and get gone
>team decides to enter in a couple different groups, to avoid attention
>mageface, decker, and adept all fail to get in due to shit rolls with their credentials, have to leg it before the security grabs them as gatecrashers/spies
>only myself and the troll sammy somehow get inside
>after much subvocal chatter, we decide to go ahead with a modified version of the plan
>with the services of a spirit, the decker operating remotely, and coaching from the physad, we manage to get through the crowd, make small talk, and sneak through the library to the vault
>vault is in a separate wired grid, so the decker can't help, but this should be easy for me. I can't fuck up a simple Puppeteer that badly
>Sammy stands guard
>6 seconds later I drop unconscious, vault door stays shut, alarm rings
>~12 seconds later, sammy comes hurtling out the bay window overlooking the front drive, with me wrapped up like a baby in one of the library curtains and tied over his shoulder
>deploys cyberskates, magna-grips to the side of the van as it comes screeching around the corner, and we blaze off into the Snohomish sunset
Fortunately, the mark decided to move the goods to a more secure location, so we were able to intercept the convoy and complete the job, but I learned some important lessons that day: If your plan for Willpower is "I'll increase it during gameplay" you are dumb and deserve everything you get, and that despite your opinions on sprite rights you need to register some of them, because compiling mid-run is not smart
>>47995308
Core book, dummy.
>>47994272
What are you looking for chummer? I've been collecting drek for a while now for my campaign. Might have something you need.
>>47995844
Nothing in particular, just something I could link to in this thread to show the variety of Sixth World fashion
>>47995111
>First game of shadowrun ever
>Kid mage (me) with his german 0.05 essence friend (my friend)
>Human elf poser decker (GM's (now ex) wife)
>First roll of game is German street sam trying to speak english
>Critically glitches.
This sets the tone for our adventures.
>Sneaky beaky all like through this elf facility that still makes books; stealing some lineage book or something.
>Scout the place, get good, then head on it.
>We hear dogs. Hellhounds or whatever had paralyzing howl. German Streetsam dude took a shot at the trainer, nicked him, then failed the save against the paraylze howl, then drops down while I deploy an emergency force wall to keep us from being eaten by
>Decker has to brick his comm to prevent him from calling the cops. He gets trapped in an elevator. Problem solved.
>Meanwhile in the garage basement, paraylze howl finally wears off.
>We beat down the dogs and continue inside the building.
>Lotta searching, nothing interesting. GM is doing some side shit with the decker while we sneaky beaky through.
>Finally get to the safe we need to crack.
>Mage acid spell to eat through it.
>Finally get the goods when we hear the vans pull up and KE boots hitting the ground.
>Decker fucked up and tripped alarms and didn't even tell us.
>Decker flees as soon as the run goes pear shaped.
>Queue me and my street sam friend at the top floor of this building collectively shitting ourselves while a pair of swat team rolls up the stairs.
>Summon a guardian elemental, hand him a ton of grenades, have him surprise the swat team.
>Chunky salsa means its just now 2v6 instead of 3v12 (Spirit lived, don't worry)
>Stairs ruined, so we go to the elevator. One of which has the man from earlier still trapped inside.
>We take the other by virtue of the street sam using his ware and ripping the elevator doors apart.
>We're about to hop down when we hear guns behind us.
>Turn around, its a 3rd SWAT team.
cont
>>47996199
>Apparently they had a mage making them invisible on the way up.
>German friend threatens them with a grenade for mutually assured destruction
>They shoot into him.
>Lives through virtue of having a fuckload of armor, but his low will means he racks up stun pretty quickly.
>We hop down the elevator, I force wall to prevent following
Good thing too, as they threw grenades down at us.
>Fall in the elevator shaft from third to second floor
>Run down stairs
>Run into a single guy, alone, who panics and pulls out a grenade threatening Mutually assured destruction
>Street sam shoots him.
>I grab his riot shield, he grabs me, I levitate myself and we haul ass out of there to our escape van like an overgrown man with a mage/riot shield balloon
>Rest of the first floor swat team shooting at us, GM allows for the shield to protect me and the street sam.
>Turn corner, almost home free
>One officer remains, who stayed with the vans.
>Street sam nearly filled up on stun, decide not to risk it
>Hit him with mind control
>Force him to twerk
>We run past him as he madly twerks in front of the dash cam of the swat vans that showed up.
And that's how our first run went. With a video of a large man with cyberwear wearing a Dunkelzahn dragon mask dragging a floating kid around who held a riot shield, a book, and was wearing a Lowfyr dragon mask while an officer twerked his little heart out.
Fuck that decker for abandoning us without even a warning, though.
>>47995844
You should put it on tg booru.
It's anemic when it comes to good cyberpunk.
what do you guys do when writing out descriptions for your runners? do you just focus on what they look like and what their wearing with maybe an item or two that's important to them like a particle gun or sword?
I ask because im of writing one up and for the longest time I couldn't start despite having it all in my head. then a day or two ago I was able to get started and was able to write up a few small things like some of his face, his hair and his cloths but im sort of stuck here on what else to do or how to elaborate on what iv written.
any one got any advice or inspiration for a writers block riddle chummer.
>>47996911
I usually start with a couple personality traits, allow that to build a backstory, and allow the backstory to influence the design. FE Helleb0re, flippant excitesble rich kid, got the idea to run the shadows from trids. His corporate background influences some of his dress choices but he also strives to go Shadowrunner Chic a'la Horizon Group media. He's a decker so very into bleeding edge tech, has a top of the line deck and yamatetsu cutting edge cyberware. Demeanor takes precedence over physical attributes, because demeanor kind of influences physical attributes.
>>47996911
I keep it fairly simple or try to compare it to something the other players and I have played. For example, I explained a spirit summoned by a Christian Theurge to basically be a Diablo-style demon. Spiky, red craggy skin, horns, digit-grade legs and hooves.
Also, my gm comes home soon, and our crew is about to hear out a run from the same yak princes we exctracted from her rebellious stint with an aztechnology boyfriend. She wants to make her very scary daddy happy and fix face. Wish us luck with this brat.
>>47996911
I don't write out a physical description, beyond the basic of metatype/race and general style (e.g. tribal chic, neogrunge, zaibatsu).
My characters own more than one set of clothes, it's dumb to try and specify one outfit as if it's all they wear.
>>47995111
>my character, a former marine corps promotional icon turned street sam, is the team operator
>shot callan and pie sweepan
>clearing rooms of gangers for the Johnson
>flash and storm in
>what do you mean grenades detonate at the start of my next initiative pass?
>what do you mean flashbangs have no damage drop off?
>ka-flashbang
And that's how I dropped 5 gangers and a street sam way into the physical. Kids, this is why you check the rules when dealing with high explosives when coming from another system. Even if that system is also a CGL product. Especially if so.
>>47995704
Holy kek m8
>>47993338
Ahhh. You never did me from the other day. Compact, short black haired female dragon shaman, caucasian. Wearing an athame around her neck. Shit eating grin please.
>>47996911
Start with basic attributes. Height, weight, colours. Then go to things that people notice when they see this person: demeanour, posture, the way they react to their environment and other people. Then think about what they're like to talk to: attitude, voice, vocabulary.
Lastly, think about goals, dreams, wishes, the things the character is aspiring towards. Another meal, or a lifetime of mastercraft gourmet experiences? What do they hate, what do they stand for, what do they admire?
>>47993745
I won't kill anyone that is unarmed. For example, me and a ganger get into a shootout. I hit him enough to down him, but not kill him. He no longer has the capacity to shoot me, so I won't walk up and put one in his head. However, if he were to pick up his gun and attempt to shoot, then I would pop him one. But anyone without a weapon will not be killed.
So I've been trying to go through my character's Contacts and clean things up so there aren't any more (???) or 'Fixer' on the list, and everyone's contacts have a name, brief description, and so on.
I've only got one more stumbling block left, which is a 6 point contact for Kuroko, my Yakuza-Princess-In-Exile Technobrat.https://www.f-list.net/c/ishiyama%20kuroko/
I've narrowed it down a bit, insofar as that I want a matrix contact, and something of a 'mentor' character in the ways of the Resonance. Another Technomancer, a Free Sprite, or something of that nature. But the inspiration well has run dry, and I'm not thinking of any fun gimmicks or good distinguishing features for a Matrix Sensei.
So if anybody wants to pitch some ideas, I'm totally up for listening.
>>47997110
The timing on grenades is weird, but it's not next init pass.
>The grenade is thrown during the character’s Action Phase and detonates in the next Combat Turn on the Initiative Score in which it was thrown minus 10, regardless of any additional changes to the thrower’s Initiative Score.
It's a full Combat turn, then an additional pass later. A trigger of just over three seconds, which is one reason you can't just grenade sammies into paste.
>>47997540
Obviously it should be a/d/eviant mod
High connection (has dirt on a bunch of people you wouldn't expect to be dirty) but low loyaltyunless you go through with that futa surgery they keep recommending
>>47997492
What about mages, they can't really be disarmed. Unless you rip them off yourself.
>>47997540
Subtle weeb.
Keeps asking for information on Japanese stuff in exchange for tutoring.
>>47997633
Hood and gag for cheapos, mage cuffs for the Duncan "Shackle The Mage, Stick 'Em In A Cage" Wu, there's ways to do it.
>>47993745
They'll kill pretty much anything for money. Kidnapping for profit as well.
Pretty much their only limit is edgy stuff. The Hacker was raised by women. The sammy has a girlfriend. They won't participate in just evil mustache twirling stuff.
They won't turn on each other however.
>>47997633
>What about mages
Will not be shot until they sling a spell at me. Then, most likely SNS or gel rounds. I always carry a clip of one or the other.
So what's the craziest enemy you've had to fight in this game? And did it catch you and your team unaware?
I didn't realize when I designed Helleb0re's piece of shit datajack it would be such a bitch and a half to make.
Hi /srg/ !
I've been away from roleplaying for a time, and for the holiday I'll try to convince my old gaming group to reform and play some Shadowrun.
Now, we used to play SR3 and it might be a good opportunity to switch to a more recent edition. Problem is, I absolutely HATE the fixed TN they introduced since 4th edition (because of reasons).
Is there any hope to find a set of houserule bringing back modifiers and varying TN in 5th edition, or alternatively updating 3rd edition with more recent material and fixes ?
>>47995844
hey, if you have art, i need a green haired gnome, a street sam.
>>47997977
Google "The Ends of the Matrix"; it's a 4e rewrite of the Matrix rules by Frank Trollman, an ex-SR freelancer that redoes everything, including technomancers.
Alternatively, take your Otaku nostalgia and shove it up your ass, because they were garbage.
>>47997642
>>47997575
So... Hmm.
4/2 contact, Japanophile Technomancer, Goes by "\Dr.\ /d/" or something like that. Got a case of the MatrixBrains and kinda...cracked slightly by being immersed in weird hentai 24/7. Went underground to avoid getting scooped up for his abilities. Became an info savant of a sort, knowledge contact?
I can sort of see it. Any other ideas?
>>47998069
>Alternatively, take your Otaku nostalgia and shove it up your ass, because they were garbage.
...I think they where talking about 'TN', as in, 'target number'? Not Technomancers.
>>47998069
I'll look into that, thanks.
>>47998176
>...I think they where talking about 'TN', as in, 'target number'? Not Technomancers.
Yes, Target Number.
I was wondering why anon was talking about nostalgia in a pure crunch problem.
>>47998176
Oh. That makes sense.I've honestly never heard grognards say that they liked the old Target Number rules, despite their nostalgia for every other part of the system, so it didn't occur to me.
>>47998178
>>47998233
Ends of the Matrix won't help you then. I don't know if anyone has done something like that, it would be a huge rewrite and there's little incentive to do it.
>>47998267
>I've honestly never heard grognards say that they liked the old Target Number rules
The old rules were quite heavy on the Game Master, and required to handle numbers easily to be able to benefit from being able to play with the probability curves shape (like differentiate how difficult is an action and how well you need it done, or get more variety on the gear bonuses). Thankfully my GM was like part machine and handled that very well, so it was never a problem in my gaming group.
So dev/grrl/.
Having gone out of my way to try to read about her because of the whole Kane debacle, I have to ask.
Are any of the NPCs any good in the books? The sidebars in Gun Heaven were grating at times and going back to the third edition they seem dumb as hell.
This is mostly because I'm bored and reading through the sourcebooks.
>>47998498
I've never had an 'Oh boy, it's [insert runner]!' moment reading these books, where' I'm glad to see a particular runner is adding their color commentary. None of them are super exciting and cool to me.
I kind of like Plan9 though. His/her gimmick is simple and amusing.
>>47998498
>>47998565
Man if you want to see some real circlejerking awful shit, a lot of the freelancers did character AMAs on the shadowrun subreddit. Jesus fucking christ, I couldn't even finish them.
>>47997540
maybe something like an old, dyeing tecnomancer whose basically living on the matrix while he's comotse in a hospital hooked up to a life-support machineand if your gm allows it to develop the story a bit he could kick the bucket somewhere down the line and become a ghost in the machine
>>47998613
>a lot of the freelancers did character AMAs
I'm scared of what I'll find.
>>47998638
That's actually a cool idea. Actually play into the 'wise old master' Sensei type.
(Though, Crash2.0 and the Technomancers only happened 10 years ago, in the 4e timeline, which isn't really enough time to have gotten old and wise as a matrix person).
I've kind of wanted to explore the idea of a mage or hacker who operates from full-immersion inside high-security Docwagon hospital, So a contact who's doing that (maybe in the face of old age and not being able to run like he used to) is pretty appealing.
>>47998681
>>47998765
I threw up a little.
>>47998765
>Kane
>Bull
Oh boy.
I'm still remembering Bull's section of the street legends thing.
>>47998681
>>47998613
I saw those, they were awful. They post quite often in character as well, just in random threads.
By far the worst is Red, though. Muh elf mage vampire runner (because he couldn't be just Infected, he had to be Awakened, and be an unusual Infected for an elf) who's super cool and tortured, but he only drinks the blood of people on death row because he's got principles. And assuming that the freelancer is the same guy who was on Opti's show under the Red name, he delayed a decent podcast about Sixth World history for a two-month masturbatory session.
Honestly, spending any time with CGL staff personally seems like it would be a bad time.
>>47998723
I was thinking he was just old and wise before the crash/advent of technomancers then he got his powers after the crash and now lives the only way he can. plus 10 years is a good bit of time to learn some tricks to pass on to the yougins especially if he's an ageing runner who was already a crafty bastard. I just thought the idea was neat.
Nerd update: the datajack sculpt is done, I'm waiting for the finish to dry so I can paint the absolute god out of this bugger.
>>47998723
They could be an old Otaku, Fading and damaged from attempts to save their special power- the body may be in it's 40's, but the botched modifications and back-alley therapies have left them cancer-ridden.
>>47998811
>Opti's show
I looked that up out of curiosity
Is it good?
>>47998811
>Honestly, spending any time with CGL staff personally seems like it would be a bad time.
From personal experience I can confirm
>>47998948
Yeah I'd say so. It's a great listen to get you caught up on history for shadowrun. He's started doing different things to slow down the history part since he's got like a decade of material left and I wasn't a fan of his big Ares showdown hullaballoo but he's a cool guy and offers some neat insight into the crazy Drek that neo anarchists spew on a daily basis.
Something is so ironic to me about a Shadowrunner with "principles" but who still consorts with the Arcology (podcast).as a side note his AI was garbage when he made a cameo appearance in SR:HK. Nearly got my buddy Racter killed
>hate shadowrun
>have to use /srg/ to get ref images for my Cyberpunk 2020 games
>get maybe five good images a thread
>meaning i have to keep coming back
>i am now an /srg/ regular
>i still hate Shadowrun
>>47998800
Bull is my favourite example of how exactly not to do fan service, how what can seem like a good idea can quickly turn rotten, and what happens when you hire people based on their willingness to defend the boss from embezzlement allegations and not on writing talent. Ratokovich says he has no influence on how the fluff keeps jerking off his old character, it's just that all the writers have so much fun writing him, which I don't believe in the slightest.
>>47998948
7/10. The release schedule is spotty af, and sometimes the author gets too wrapped up in his own metafiction bullshit (no, I don't want to hear in-character interviews with your friends about what happen when Dunkelzahn died, I want to hear what actually happened, canonically), but the content is usually pretty good, and delivered in an engaging way.
>>47999059
I'll start downloading it one by one right now.
>>47999061
You are still not the weirdest lurker here, by far.
>>47999059
>Something is so ironic to me about a Shadowrunner with "principles" but who still consorts with the Arcology (podcast).
In the show he says they're all part of something called the Shadowcasters Network, which doesn't seem to have any sort of official presence. I've never listened to the Arcology, what's it like?
>>47998849
I'm not super familiar with the Otaku.
When did they first show up? some quick wiki browsing is that they start fading around age 20, burn out completely at 30, so assuming Matrix Sensei was nearing the end of his tether by the time that Crash 2.0 happened and he ended up a TM, he'd be 30 or 40.
Having been plugged in for Crash 2.0 would explain some possible neural damage/paralysis that led to him being a hospital case, though.
>>47999059
>Arcology (podcast).
>99 episodes
>Other one has 73
Oh Christ.
>>47987847
stat me
>>47999059
>started doing different things to slow down the history part since he's got like a decade of material left
That's the most annoying part. We're so close, just finish off the history (and the rundowns of the Big 10) and either end the show gracefully, or bog it down with a bunch of scattershot episodes and personal fluff until everyone stops listening and it drowns. Don't keep me on the hook waiting for the clock to strike 12.
47999255
Nobody cares, stop reposting that shit.
>>47999253
Is there anyway to download them in bulk?
>>47999255
Ok, but first, give me a 100% convincing explanation for who would win in a fight: Him, or Roland of Gilead?
>>47999102
Start off fair enough to newcomers with access to a 5E book, but quickly goes downhill after the archetype overview, or maybe something about the two hosts just rubs me the wrong way.
>>47999253
About 30 of those episodes can be skipped since its just Patreon songs.
How well does healing magic work on cyberware?
I am, for reasons unknown, trying to make shadowrun campaign with almost no system knowledge.
>>47999116
>When did they first show up?
They were in 2nd edition, so 2053-ish, but the fluff advances the idea that Otaku may have started after the 2029 Crash virus mutated, and that there are already 'older' otaku by 2053 who could have helped your character as a child. Virtual Realities 2.0 is the oldest book I know they're in.
>>47999456
You take a stacking penalty for the more augmented the subject is.
>>47999395
I never read the dark tower.
>>47999470
It's like, the only non-short story anything that King wrote that actually approached decent. Shame.
Can someone explain how grids and noise work when in VR? I have tried to explain it several times to my GM and he still insists that noise only works on public grid and in AR, but you can easily just jack into a terminal in the park to get local level grid.
>>47999518
I dislike stephen kings writing
>writer vs scary ghost
>writer vs scary dog
>writer vs scary house
>writer vs scary town
>writer vs scary woman
and so on
>>47999591
>tfw he Steven Kinged up Horrabin from the Anubis Gates for IT.
>>47999591
Meh. You probably like early Gibson, so you have no business complaining.
>>47997840
It was this Thing that lived in the toxic LA waters. I think it turned out to be a mutant leech or whatever? Either way, it could have done some serious damage had we not been in the landsub at the time.
Oh, and also the land mine our sammy stepped on if that counts.
>>47998830
Nifty
>>47999841
Does anyone read any cyberpunk which isn't neuromancer? I read When Gravity Fails once years ago and that was some cool shit.
>>47999591
don't forget they almost always take place in either Maine specifically or the NE united states.
>>48000074
I think there is a trend where his best works tend not to be set in new england
Did the one about the Kennedy assassination take place there?
Time Travel Shadowrun
Where do you send the runners, and how? Tech? Magic?
>>47999465
Hmm. I wonder if it'd be possible for a techno to have been part of that earlier generation, have faded out during the 2053 era of technoes, and then gotten his powers back as a Technomancer during crash 2.0.
>>47999986
Rx: A Tale of Electronegativity is pretty new, and pretty great.and I'd definitely say it's cyberpunk
>>48000148
Metaplanar shenanigans, and back to about 3 days before we did whatever we did that was so stupid that we need time travel to fix it
>>47996911
Anyone have a pic of this girl? I swear I've seen something similar with that robot stretching.
>>48000282
No, I haven't. It's Halycon450 in deviantart, though, if you want to try and track it down.
>>48000282
iv also got this one
>>48000335
>>48000363
Thanks, anons.
>>48000148
I always wanted to send a team of runners back in time to some where during the beginning of the shadowrun timeline and see how much they can unfuck/fuck up the timeline. ex. stop the natives from launching the nuke/form the NAN, starting a company back in the beginning knowing what they know and do some insider trading on steroids, save the D, etc,etc. it would be amusing at least no matter what happens.
>>47999102
The Arcology is definitely worth a listen. At least catching up on Actual Plays is worth it (since most of the runner breakdowns and book reviews are out of date). The Actual Play is actually dome of the best actual play podcasting I've heard. All their characters are really well fleshed out/ well role played, the rules never get in the way too much, Mr Johnson is excellent at kneecapping the runners whenever they get complacent or arrogant, and there's very little character breaking. The only weird part is that the released episodes are way behind the current source books so characters aren't the most mechanically diverse.
Also (and this will totally sound like shilling) their patreon actual plays are excellent too and pretty fun.
>>48000461
Oh man. Single greatest move:
Warn Dunk.
>>48000523
Oh man I'd love to see that meeting.
"DUNKEL ZAHN DON'T DO IT! IF YOU DO YOU'LL BE ASSASSINATED!"
"...And... how do you know this? *Astrally puts out an immediate takedown on the whole team because THEY KNOW TOO MUCH*"
Then the team has to kill Dunkelzahn.
>>48000172
Secret Earthdawn Elf Techno? Nah can't see it happening.
However am I confused or are Otaku not more ro less the same thing as Techno?
>>48000607
Actuslly just looked and yeah they kinda are so since they showed up around whenever 2nd ed was and could presumably become Technomancers in crash 2.0 you could make a 21 year old otaku who became a human techno and is now a 60+ year old master matrix runner
>>48000461
>>48000523
>YFW the runners waste their opportunity trying to have sex with dragons instead
>>48000127
its starts out in Maine and does take a good bit of the story but it also has a large chunk of it set in Texas because of Kennedy.
>>48000172
>>48000663
Your TM seems like kind of an annoying brat.
I'd feel sorry for anyone who had to be any sort of mentor for her.
>>48000571
>Then the team has to kill Dunkelzahn.
But if they kill Dunkelzahn, the whole timeline gets messed up! What can they do?
>>48000282
I know exactly what image you're talking baout. She has black elbows and knees, and wearing black bike shorts and white tanktop. She's stretching with arms over her head, and her eyes are closed. I used to have it. And now I'm furious I can't find it.
>>48000847
>You know, Frank, I really don't feel comfortable with this. There's going to be a lot of guys with guns there-
>Don't worry about it, Charlie. Mac will be right beside you the whole time, and he's pretty sure he's turning into one of them, whaddaya call 'em, adopts. Anything goes wrong, he'll pull you right out.
>>48000912
>the gang as a group of shadowrunners
I HAVE A MIGHTY NEED!
the great part is no matter how sideways the run goes they will be fine.
>>48000894
Here's an image that's similar to what you're describing; is this it?
>>48000958
I love you. Marry me. Live a long and happy life in a cottage by the sea.
>>48000977
Not today, elf.
>>47998019
There is a green highlight in his hair if that counts.
>>47999395
Roland mofo.
Apply real world physics to vash, suddenly you've got him on the ropes.
>>48000363
Aww, he's a cutie!
>>48001744
if I recall he's a she according to the draw request. but then again he/she is an elf so you may be right anyway.
>>48000847
>>48000912
>>48000668
>"OOPS! I DROPPED MY SUPER WARHAWK CONDOM FOR MY GREAT DRAGON DONG!!!!!!"I'm all for this run idea but dunkelzahn's assassination was planned by him and so killing dunkelzahn wouldn't change history at all unless they killed him somewhere where no one would see the rift and get wise to the Horror plot and/or killed him while simultaneously destroying his will and fortune
>>47996364
>>47995878
I'll upload some stuff to the tg booru under shadowrun and hopefully you'll find something you like.
>>47999855
Nice, thanks for the share.
>>48003645
Which book has critters in 5e? Or is that not out yet?
>>48004367
Howling Shadows
in canon, are renraku & the yakuza against each other or do they share similar goals?
>>48004628
Mitsuhama are the corp with the Yakuza ties, and even that said, Mitsuhama views the Yakuza in a very 'annoying little brother' sort of way,given that they're vastly, stupidly more powerful than any crime syndicate. You pay a certain amount of respect and help, because they're family, but they're small time.
>>48004628
Really depends on context. Megas are too big to have any real unilateral views, one you scratch the surface. Yakuza are likewise fragmented into clans and the like.
/srg, i cannot wait to show you this cyber arm when i finish it. Sculpting's done, next is painting then attaching it to the latex!
>>48005240
>>48005354
good to know thanks anon
>>47988420
>Lofwyr's reach
On this note. Just concluded a several-session arc involving him two weeks back, after a campaign break because two of us got deployed overseas.
Briefly:
>hit a SK databank (I didn't want to, the rest of the players thought we could handle it)
>couldn't get into the vault, so we took the vault
>couple of days pass, I'm freaking out, rest of group is pretty calm
>our Johnson didn't show to the meeting
>fuck it, I'm out
>prep to bail on Europe, vanish down a few bolt holes I've set up over the campaign
>night before I'm leaving, an invitation to a SK "private function" shows up at our hideout, signed by "Brackhaus"
>NOPE NOPE NOPE
>I leave ahead of schedule (this is where the others got deployed)
>through a couple of sessions with the GM done privately, thus begins the chase
>every place I hide, every place I go, that fucking invitation follows me
>I hide on a cruise ship thinking maybe the open ocean is out of touch, it finds me
>I hide in Hong Kong for two sessions in a dump of a bolt hole, it finds me when SK through an array of shell companies buys the building I'm living in
>finally I vanish into the depths of Latin America, the bottom of the bottom
>living alone, in the jungle, no contact, no nuyen, no SIN, no nothing, only thing even close is a "village" that gets food drops every year
>a month passes
>food drop comes eleven months early
>INVITATION
>accompanying it is a second letter this time
>"The helicopter will be picking you up at six."
>the helicopter arrives at six, at my cabin
>I find out from the others, when we encounter each other again, that Lofwyr had something he really wanted in that vault, and he has been deliberately ensuring that we have no money, no SINs, no contacts, and nowhere to hide, the GM was running these sessions for all of them sometimes via Skype under strict instructions that none of us were to talk to each other about it
And we all officially meet up again in-game this weekend.
>>48005575
That sounds like a particular brand of roughness
Sup /tg/
I'd like to incorporate elements from YotC into my game thats set in the 60s, in particular SURGE. What are some ways to mitigate/discourage players from the more furry aspects that introducing SURGE crunch can cause, without seeming like a railroady/NOFUNALLOWED GM?
Before today, Helleb0re had never killed anyone. In a 24 hour period, his body count reached 6.
My poor PTSD baby is having a rough week.
On the other hand, we got to ride around in a doc wagon and execute an Aztlaner priest on camera!
Noob that's been playing 3.5 and Pathfinder with friends for years trying to get into Shadowrun with friends here. What edition do you all recommend for us?
>>48006437
5e has the most going on right now, but 4e has more shit to work with. 3e and before are a clusterfuck of rules.
As an addendum to >>48006457
3e might be a clusterfuck of rules, but it has the most fluff of the last three editions. So while you might want to play 4e/5e you should have a look in the 3e sourcebooks for setting backstory
>>48006457
I gotta disagree here, if you discount the setting stuff from 4e (Of which there is quite a bit) 5e has more material at this point.
Not all of it worthwhile of course, but the point remains.
You know, given the subject matter of shadowrun there's a surprising dearth of information vis a vis actual slums.
I'm sure this question has been asked before but which of the great dragons is the best fighter compared to the others?
>>48006616
We don't know.
Presumably Lofwyr and the Sea Dragon are up there in the ranking (Lofwyr having seemingly won a duel with another great dragon and killing it, the sea dragon repeatedly picking fights with militaries and other dragons and getting away with it),
>>48005826
SURGE?
>>48006674
The magic mutation stuff.
It's in Run Faster for 5e.
>>48005826
You make anyone who wants to play a SURGE character roll on the random chart. Simple as that.
The two problems with SURGE are
>A) It leads to special snowflake furry shit
>B) It leads to incredibly minmaxed furry shit
Enforce random rolls, and you take away any deliberate attempt to make whatever anime character and all the obvious munchkin routes. There's even different grades, so the PCs can choose their level of adventure, or just stick with established metatypes. You want to play someone affected by freaky magic? Go for it. But you're not going to take the 'freaky' out of the equation.
>>48006666
Fair enough I wouldn't imagine most of dragons wanting to go out and roar when they can simply stay in and check on their stock.
>>48006787
That's basically the issue.
The exception is the Sea Dragon, it likes to get more hands on with companies.
I.E: directly wrecking the shit off Maersk and Proteus.
>>48006820
Why is it the exception? And I'm assuming those are mega corps. Sorry I'm new to this stuff and everything.
>>47993907
It's not super great, to be honest. It's functional for basic modules, but when you get into shit that's like 'You can have five points in three different skills but none of them can have more than two points and also you have to kill a puppy' it collapses a bit. There's a loose plan to re-do it in a manner closer to how mentor spirits are handled, but there's no ETA on that.
>>47998811
What I don't get is how the fuck Red keeps getting that blood in the first place. Like once or twice sure, but what prison has a policy of repeatedly drawing blood from inmates?>>47998681
The freelancer pity-party was better, that had a gay guy who didn't kill himself because he fell in love with an ork.
>>47999315
Most podcast readers should be able to handle it.
>>48006898
Because the Sea Dragon is a dick. 'Sea Dragon' isn't even it's real name; it's just the name people have given to 'that bigass dragon that lives in the oceans and claims them all, has a team of eco-terrorists it uses to interfere with shipping and oil wells and stuff, and unlike most dragons will personally go and rip apart ships as it pleases.'
Sirrurg is the land equivalent in South America. Basically they're the huge assholes of the dragon world, who don't even want to pretend to work with metahumans on anything approaching a partnership.
>>48006898
No worries.
The Sea Dragon is basically feral (Although it still has the intelligence of a dragon), refusing to interact with society in any meaningful way.
Since it doesn't like society, and doesn't interact with it, it tends to be a bit more hands on with its goals. Which usually involves getting society to leave the fucking ocean.
Maersk and Proteus are two megacorps which have a LOT to do with the ocean. Proteus tends to build labs there, and Maersk, like its real world counterpart, makes most of its money from overseas shipping.
>>48006960
So does the fluff happen to state why it doesn't want to interact or talk things out? Also thank you for the explanation. >>48006947
So then there's a bunch of dragons who just don't wish to work with the rest of the planet?
>>48007029
Nope, there's no real explanation.
It's just all angry all the time.
>So then there's a bunch of dragons who just don't wish to work with the rest of the planet?
Well Sirrug wants to set up a continent sized environmentalist commune, it just doesn't want to interact with society as it is NOW.
The Sea Dragon is really the only one who completely eschews society.
>>48005575
sounds like someone cant hide well enoughor that's some premium railroading you got there, either way good luck pal
Thinking of running Shadowrun with the Savage World system.
Anyone have any thoughts?
>>48007029
The thing about dragons is that they're apex predators, and REALLY don't like people interfering in what they see as their domain. Dragon society is essentially a series of carefully-negotiated promises not to kill each other yet.
The Sea Dragon is a dick because it WANTS to be a dick and nobody with the power to stop it is willing to break those accords.
>>48007077
Why not just play Interface Zero?
>>48007029
>So does the fluff happen to state why it doesn't want to interact or talk things out?
No. The Sea Dragon doesn't explain shit, it says, "Get out of my ocean." Actually, it doesn't even say that, it just murders everyone on an oil tanker and throws the wreckage into a harbour facility and lets people figure it out from there.
>So then there's a bunch of dragons who just don't wish to work with the rest of the planet?
Pretty much. Lofwyr is iconic as 'Dragon CEO', and you have people like Hestaby in Tir Tairngire or Dunkelzahn in the UCAS who will get involved in politics, or Schwartzkopf in Prague who teaches uni (and assembles a bunch of magic artifacts for his own purposes) but many dragons aren't that friendly (relatively speaking). Amazonia is a nation under the thumb of multiple dragons, who fight with each other and have created an Awakened paradise. Which is to say, you can't kill any animal there, shifters are better than regular metahumans under the law, and predators can eat you if they have half an excuse. Ryomo lives on an island somewhere in the Pacific and doesn't give a fuck what you do, just stay the fuck off of his island.
>>47998811
I used to run a game for one of the writers forever ago, and she was pretty cool.
She deleted me off her skype after I said I didn't think WoW really cared about its own lore, but I'm going to blame that on us not having talked for a while at that point.
>>47991226
None of these options! Gunnery + Logic is the RAW as retarded as that sounds!
>>48007083
>Why not just play Interface Zero?
Because people are invested in the setting of Shadowrun, and I honestly think Interface Zero is a totally different kind of setting.
>>48007129
Was itLittle Mac
>>48007159
Yep.
>>48007087
dragons were a mistake. nuke the scalies
>>48007192
If bombing them worked, Maersk would've wiped out the Sea Dragon forever ago.
Dragons have backup plans for their backup plans, and short of dedicating the whole world to their destruction you just aren't going to manage.
>>48007064
>>48007083
>>48007087
So now I have two questions one is generally for a shaman their mentor spirits can show up and start guiding them at any time correct? Two you think if the sea dragon ever messes with Lofwyr's corporation that they'll be hell to pay?
>>48007236
>So now I have two questions one is generally for a shaman their mentor spirits can show up and start guiding them at any time correct?
Sure.
There's no issue with that.
>Two you think if the sea dragon ever messes with Lofwyr's corporation that they'll be hell to pay?
Great Dragons mess with each other all the time.
Lung and Ryumyo explicitly do so all day every day.
The question for Lofywr is one of cost effectiveness.
Sure he could dedicate all his resources to bringing down the Sea Dragon, but is that worth it?
>>48006919
>Like once or twice sure, but what prison has a policy of repeatedly drawing blood from inmates?
In the RF fluff story that opens the Infected chapter, he says that he has a LS contact that lets him into Death Row at a certain prison. Which, OK, sure, you can get some blood from there, but it's not like vampires are popular with anyone; somebody is going to take issue with a vamp swinging by twice a week for a pick-me-up. If it was just a way that Red assuaged his guilt about sucking blood (like buying local once a month at the store) that would be one thing, but the whole "read their minds, then find the real killer" thing is too much.
>>48007178
LM is alright. Actually seems to believe that CGL can make mistakes and acknowledges that there are problems with the way things are handled, which is more than any of the staffers do. She's not so wrapped up in getting her donut steel into JackPoint that she has lost sight of the fact that they're supposed to be writing a game, with working rules and fluff that actually is useful to tables.
>>48007266
I haven't actually engaged too much with the game since the game I ran with her ended, I've only recently picked up the game again. So I don't really know how she's doing vis a vis shadowrun.
I remember some of the stuff she wrote was pretty good, but I can't remember specifics.
>>48007265
Fair enough, I don't think it would get to the top of its food chain by being rash. Ah another quick question do the dragons in shadowrun go by genders or is it somewhat like Iron kingdoms in that they really have no use for the terms.
>>48007297
Some of them do genders, some don't.
Aden seems to not really care for the notion, but other than that most of them seem to have gender they primarily use when taking human form or when being addressed.
>>48007303
Alright cool, I'm assuming though that there are indeed entities and figures that are more hands on when dealing with issues or are just as terrifying as a dragon?
>>48007293
Most recent thing was the Drake section of HS, which was... not great.
The stuff leaked about the Technomancer book seems interesting, though when that comes out is anyone's guess.
>>48007330
Well, there's megacorps. In terms of raw, pound-for-pound physical and magical might, nothing really matches a dragon, but you get around that by fighting dirty. For example, Sirrurg the Destroyer had his ass kicked by Aztechnology when he went too far with the destroying, and if some dragons and Great Form Spirits hadn't shown up and hauled his scaly ass to dragon jail then he would be dead.
Basically if you ever see a dragon in person, you're in the 1%, and if you are ever in a situation where you need to fight a dragon personally you're already dead. Most people have enough on their plates dealing with some thug with a Predator.
>>48007214
Look, im not going to get into an argument over this, iv already had this discussion more times than I can count here and elsewhere. their killable, not easily mind you but doable. plus Maersk might not use nukes because nukes tend to fuck up the area that their used in, its bad for the environment and bad for business even when you kill said asshole dragon, its probably cheaper and more cost effective to let him throw his tantrums kill a shipping freighter or dozen than actually try and deal with said dragon seriously and the fallout that comes with dealing with dragon politics.
I just hate the idea that the dragons are some sort of lady of pain, all according to keikaku untouchable figures. I get it there supposed to be background elements big name NPC's, forces of nature, etc, etc. but if you got all the right elements you should be able to pull something offmind you surviving it all is another story
>>48005432
I can't wait to be shown it
>>48006616
Sirrug the Destroyer most likely.
>>48006787
Most of Amazonia's foreign policy up until Sirrug was sent to dragon jail boiled down to "Our minister of war is a dragon and he will totally eat you."
>>48006715
What if someone wants to do a themed character, like a frog dude or a mole dude or, god forbid, a constantly wears masks because he looks like an insect dude?
>>48006947
Sirrug does work with metahumans tho. He's a part of a country's goverment and everything. (Most positions of power in that goverment are filled by dragons, and the head of state is a great dragon, but that's beside the point.)
>>48007400
> constantly wears masks
Bug?_
>>48007330
basically the short list of who can take a dragon realistically is: other dragons, megacorps, tier 1 nations, and Great Form Spirits to name a few
>>48007378
Now this might show how much of a new fag I am but Ah the shadowrun videogames. Do any of big bad antagonist in those games actually do things in the actual fluff?
>>48007378
>Basically if you ever see a dragon in person, you're in the 1%,
Does Hualpa do public speeches? That seems like a thing you do when you run a country.
>>48007419
Nah, he just looks kinda like one and as a result constantly wears masks so no-one freaks out and murders him.
>>48007460
So, if someone took his mask off, he'd probably die, right?
>>48007400
I'm guessing by his nickname he's fought a lot
