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Large Armies Edition
Has anyone had experience with mass combat rules?
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Previous thread: >>47897741
Anyone who spells it "San Fran" should be raped to death by cacti and barbed wire.
>>47902608
Half-elf Lore Warden.
>inb4 lel martial
>>47902613
A wand of explosive runes is definitely on my to buy list.
We'll never get proper info on these boys, right?
If you had an ability or interaction that said 'X functions as if it were two levels higher' and an ability that said 'X lasts for a number of rounds equal to your level, these rounds do not need to be consecutive.'
So if you used all of your rounds and then exposed yourself to the aura, item, ability, etc that gave that ability two more rounds, you could then use it for two more rounds, yes?
But what then if you deprived yourself of it. And then reintroduced it?
>>47902683
How about we just be excellent to each other and party on instead.
>>47902685
Go grab sleeves of many garments, dust of dryness, feather tokens and dust of illusion.
if you have the gold, there's a wondrous item I think is called Magician's cheating gloves that grants prestidigitation and mage hand at-will.
Question:
Mesmerist Devilbane Gaze, Devilbane Binding. Is there any way for a Mesmerist to nab planar binding and make use of it without resorting to fellow party members or scrolls?
>>47902604
>'Large Armies'
>nary a pole, pike, half nor lance in sight
>bereft of chain, of gorget, of doublet and plate, of tassets and faulds
>nor formation held, of brotherhood strong, the shining helms and banners a flutter before their enemy
Anime is gay.
>>47902733
How about we start with that half of them have their thighs/shoulders exposed?
And no one decided to bring a helmet. A volley of arrows will doubtless show them the error of the quartermastery.
>>47902733
Well, if you're gonna be such a cocksucking faggit about it.
>>47902763
It will be a stern lesson to impress upon the lands of Wei A'bou, but it must be done.
Alright, so I am not at all familiar with the occultist, but a friend has been utterly obsessed with it and wound up making an archetype for it. They heard I post here, so they wanted me to link it here. Made them open it up for comments.
According to them: "The Occult Detective is an Occultist that chooses to focus on Divination; their focus is on information gathering."
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LtYsahSguJ3ZL9FrrRSKkIbXpadawQBtUL6pJQCoAEk/edit?usp=sharingFuck it up friends.
>>47902771
Seen it before,most of the mecha are dumpy shitbots and the back sheathed swords with huge cloaks an't doing them any favors. Central mecha looks decent-ish if you put on a different head and scrapped the double sword nonsense.
Also lol those belts on her coat jfc
>>47902685
Flour for invisible enemies, salt to fuck with Oozes' osmotic pressure if your GM is into that sort of logic like mine is, a crowbar to force doors open, a mirror to check around corners, under doors, and to target creatures with Gaze attacks as long as you have a one handed weapon (the aforementioned crowbar makes a good club if you ordinarily use THF), flasks of acid, bottled lightning, liquid ice and/or alchemical fire when you need to AoE a swarm, masterwork tools for every skill you have ranks in plus Perception if for some reason you don't have that, a set of weighted dice and a set of non-weighted dice to pass time with commoners in the tavern, a Heavy Pick in case you need to break through a stone wall, and I'm sure there's more I'm forgetting.
First time playing a fighter, and first time not being a caster.
Do I just take my sword, get power attack and start hitting shit for 20 levels?
>>47902771
>your party will never color-coordinate their attire or adopt a kickass uniform.
>>47902808
Pretty much.
>>47902771
still no Polish citizen, Esox lucius or chain in sight.
>>47902808
If you want to mix things up, pick Lore Warden or Martial Master. Those two archetypes give you a lot more flexibility. You can even merge them.
>>47902813my entire current party is naked, does that count?several of us may or may not have genitals
>>47902808
I suggest you Google search some builds and guides. 1pp or 3pp? If 1pp check out Lore Warden or the Mutagenic archetype.
But yes, Power Attack, Furious Focus, Weapon Specialization, Improved Critical, etc etc. Consider using an Elven Curve Blade or a Falchion, get those boots of Speed asap or suck your Wizard's dick for Haste.
>>47902808
Fuck no. You beg the DM and suck his dick to let you play PoW.
>>47902813
I'm creating one for a partymember's many many followers (he has Leadership)...
I'm sure he'll approve.
>>47902813
>that one girl breaks theme to show off her crotch and shoulders
C'mon nowonly decent ones have helmets and even then its pushing it
>>47902837
>>47902842
die young, leave a prettyscantily cladcorpse
>>47902808
You have the option to go TWF instead, but yeah. There's a reason Fighter is low tier. It's not because it doesn't do anything, it's because it only does one thing - break face. Lore Warden, which is one way out of that.
>>47902800
I got a lot of those by picking up the Handy Haversack Pack (and I'm shilling that every chance I get), but I'm going to be throwing in some of that stuff as well.
>>47902813
>Piercing Thunder with Spear
>Mithral Current with Katana
>Iron Tortoise with Sword and Board
>Primal Fury with Zweihander Glaive
>E.Flux with Longsword
>>47902825
Looked into lore warden, wasn't too sure on it. I'll go give it another look.
>>47902897
Break face*
Severe restrictions may apply, face breaking relegated to melee and ranged categories.
Melee: Pray your opponent can't fly
Ranged: Pray your opponent doesn't have wind wall
>>47902827
I looked at a few builds. But they all pretty much do what I was looking at doing anyway.
>>47902904
>WEEABOO FIGHTING MAGIC WITH WEEABOO
>>47902813
>implying we don't
We're not all unfortunate enough to have plebeian players who do not understand the basics of having good fashion sense.
>>47902923
>Auto
It's got good CMB/CMD bonuses, Knowledge skills, and Know Thy Enemy, which is pretty decent. If you take it with Martial Master it allows you to swap feats out on the fly for any sort of CMB feats you need, so you always have the feat(s) you need at the cost of a move action.
>>47902904
I believe the gentleman in the bottom left is unarmed. Unless you include swirly kickass shoulder capes.
I don't know where the longsword you reference is, unless it's in the hands of the sword and board gentleman at 6 o'clock
>>47902931
> Ranges
> not having cyclonic bow/arrow or silvef nocking point
>>47902948
We need to go even more Weeb!
>>47902931
And that's when you sit in the corner while your caster buddies laugh.
Of course, if they do that too often you respond by fighting something else while they get grappled.
>>47902967
Maybe Fool's Errand?
What is a good gestalt combination to make the best archer that's ever held a bow?
Slayer/Ranger?
>>47902990
I was going to go with just baseline broken blade, but sure, that works too.
>>47902813
We're a party of Mahou Shoujos with our own motiffs. Does that count?
>>47902967
Nah, bottom left's left hand is consistent with holding a weapon.
>>47902994
Ninja(or UC Rogue) / Inquisitor
Bane + Sneak Attack is painful as fuck.
Remember how we brainstormed the other day about a setting where the traditional D&D races were hybridized with weebish animalpeople races into a new setting?
We didn't get far last time before some kind of shitstorm interrupted, but how's this:
Elves + foxgirls = Kitselves
Halflings + catboys = Catlings
Dwarves + dogboys = Dwogs
Orcs + wolfmen = Warcs
Tieflings + batgirls = Tieflaps
Aasimar + bunnywomen = Bunnimar (Assbuns colloquially)
Humans + humans = humans
>>47903031
>ninja
>rogue
>ranged sneak attack
KEK
KEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK
kys and reroll as a paladin
>>47902973
>WEEB LEVEL INCREASING
>>47903029
Maybe he's just trying to cop a feel of the girl's ass
>>47903048
Goblins + Lizards = Gobliz
>>47903016
>We're a party of Mahou Shoujos
Tell me more
>>47903048
??? + ratpeople = ???
Gnomes + molepeople = ???
??? + Birdpeople = ???
>>47903048
>Warcs
>not hybridizing them with pigs and makingPorcs
>>47903126
Aren't they already sometimes portrayed as just pigfolk? It's like doing Tengu + Crow = Tengu.
>>47903126
>>47903048
>Aasimar + rabbit girls = assbuns
You cheeky fucker.
NG Sleepy Sylph Witch who specializes in the slumber hex and her motiff is the Sandman
CN Lustful Lizardfolk(fluffed as a Lamia) Bard with performance dance and specializes in fire. Her motiff is the Snake Charmer
LG Aasimar Soulknife who beamspams arrows of love and peace (beaming nonlethal 4d6 weapon enhancements) Her motiff is the Cherub
TN Human Oracle who and specializes in balance in all things. Her motiff is the scales
>>47903029
Upon further reflection, I agree with your conclusion, but not with the reasons for it.
1) The swirl of his cloak indicates he is spinning counter-clockwise, pivoting on his left foot, indicating that is his primary foot.
1 a) People naturally pivot on the foot that is their dominant arm's side.
2) His stance has his right leg thrust outwards, characteristic of a southpaw, or lefthander's stance
3) His shoulder plate has a besagew, a plate to protect the inner arm/armpit, usually located on the weapon side, as that arm is lifted. it is located on his left side
4) Lastly and more assuredly, there is a blood spray, a broken blade tip in the upper left. Indicating someone struck there, in line with his spin, and too far from anyone else, the spearman is at rest here.
4a) The completion of this spray is located in the very bottom left. It is too high to end with the shieldman's sword, but would continue where our gentleman's sword is at rest behind the shieldman.
>>47903186
>Lizardfolk as lamia
>Not Vishkanya
>>47903126
Well who would be good for being the werewolf-looking people that the girls at your table want to play? Truthfully I'm not fond of pig-orcs, they're like strictly made to be unlikable mook enemies if done that way. I don't think many PCs would want to play that.
>>47903186
motif has one f
>>47903200
ffuck. thanks anon.
>>47903200
so does 'fuck you'
>>47902786
Alright, here's what I'm noticing from a cursory run-through:
>Spellcasting
Two things here; first, why bring up the extra spells per day from having a high Intelligence? Occultists do that normally, and the archetype doesn't change that. Second, the wording is unclear on "must choose Divination at 1st level". Does it mean that the Occult Detective can only choose Divination at 1st level, or that any pair of implements can be chosen so long as Divination is one of them? The wording needs tightening.
>Superior Object Reading
This isn't actually superior. It's much, much worse. As it's currently worded, this is basically taking an at-will ability and severely restricting the number of times per day you can use it, only to speed up a process that under most circumstances can be done at a relatively leisurely pace. If this were in addition to the normal version of Object Reading, or didn't require the Occultist to be handling the object (something like "Hey, what's that crazy relic our enemy's waving around" or something) would make this ability actually playable. Without something like that, this is a massive downgrade.
>Insight
A few issues here; where is it pulling from? Can you pull focus from any of your implements? Only from generic focus? Make sure that's clear. Secondly, as written, this needs to be buffed. Once again, you're trading a safety net, at-will ability for an extremely limited use ability that doesn't really give enough to justify it in the first place. Maybe look into the Investigator's Inspiration, and model it similarly to that.
>Greater Magical Reading
Again, trading out an at-will ability to replicate a 3rd level spell that's not on your spell list, in order to get a limited use ability to partially replicate a lower level spell that is on your spell list. This is not a good trade. Even if it were at-will, you would still be worse off simply for being unable to use half of the spell.
(1/2)
>>47902604
>Has anyone had experience with mass combat rules?
I'd really like to know the answer to this.
Our campaign might actually involve us players gaining an army as we recapture several cities lost to an encroaching evil.
>>47903239
Use another system and add appropriate buffs, PF's system is a steaming pile of dookie from what I heard.
>>47903170
Was that a pun?
>>47903239
Fuck real mass combat simulation of any kind. Whichever army proves to have better heroes has the 'morale' to triumph in the skirmish. Achieve objectives, kill the enemy's best dudes, your irrelevant NPC pals automatically succeed with you. Then let plot dictate the rest. Some friend NPCs can have a chance to die or not by RNG, the rest don't need rolls.
>This is my Anti-Paladin for your campaign, DM
>>47903325
That looks awful.
>>47903263
...It was not intended to be.
I think I need to go lie down.
>>47903325
cool, this is mine
>>47903325
how does he take a shit?
>>47903325
Good, you can go sit beside jim, he's playing a necromancer
>>47903325
Oh my, you too an antipaladin?
>>47903048
>Aasimar + bunnywomen = Bunnimar (Assbuns colloquially)
I'm okay with this.
Someone post more bunnybutts and rabbitrumps
>>47903325
nice this is mine.
>>47903325
>That guy goes full edge for his antipali
>These fucktards ruining it for him by making their evil characters comically evil
>>47903354
>>47903360
>>47903325
>This is my monk, DM
>>47903325
This is my lady knight, DM.
What? I just got it off the internet, now are we gonna play your Orc-slaying campaign or not?
>>47902786
>>47903238
(2/2)
>Detective Circles
I like the idea of this, but the initial version needs to be tightened up. Start by defining "nearby area". Is it a mile wide/caster level burst from the circle? Can it be placed at a specific point elsewhere, so long as the entire area is within the burst? Does the radius grow each time the Occultist gains a level, or do they have to redraw the circle each time? After that, what does "Other Divination spells, such as Locate Object and Detect Magic, will show their results in a nearby area if they are cast by the Occult Detective or a member of his party." actually mean? Does it allow you to cast these spells on the map and show the results of the location, or does it ping on the map when someone at the location uses the spell? Also, you need to find a way to deal with the fact that these circles are stationary, and don't really help unless the party has reliable means of speaking at long ranges. Maybe reword this to create detective circles specifically, and replace the actual Magic Circles ability to give them some form of mobility?
>Prescience
This ability is mostly fine, just remove "The Occult Detective gains Prescience" from the first sentence. It's unnecessary at best, and misleading at worst, since it could be interpreted as "gains Prescience (an outside ability of the same name)."
There's a lot of flaws and work to be done, but the project shows a lot of potential. Tell your friend to keep at it. The Occultist is a personal favorite class of mine, so it's always good to see it get some love.
>>47903325
>This is my Soulknife, DM
>>47903396
I know monks are suited to fighting without armor, but I wasn't aware that included pants.
>>47903417
>now are we gonna play your Orc-slaying campaign or not?
I think you might have misheard the DM, anon...
>>47903364
They're still celestial-blooded puritans though.
>>47903446
She's a furry, she's allowed to not wear pants.
>>47903048
>>47903468
Wait doesn't that just imply that celestials are literally just bunnies, and fiends are literally just bats?
>>47903353
Inside his armor, because he is EVIL !
>>47903325
Sure, anon. You'll be joining these two in the campaign.
>>47903425
This is that friend of the OP of that archetype. Thanks for the input. I'm modifying the document now.
>>47903481
>I shit where I am, because I'm Chaotic, and being Chaotic is literally my code!
>>47903048
>Kitselves
excuse me stop appropriating my pronoun
>>47903499
Knights actually did piss and shit in their armor.
The squires' jobs were to clean that up.
>>47903396
>>47903446
>>47903473
I'm more wondering where that tail is going, the middle of her back?
>>47903514
Fuck you mark we aren't being simulationist today. The bathroom is JUST down the hall.
>>47903417
...I really need to reread that doujin.
>>47903524
It could curve back down to join up at the proper place.
>>47903532
Tell me more.
>>47903528
You're the one who kept telling us we needed to roleplay better, Dave!
>>47903548
http://exhentai.org/g/832739/6a0db59206/
>>47903486
That's what they advertised themselves as... but.....
>>47903533
It'd be a pretty aggressive and uncomfortable turn, ever tried to turn a cat's tail? It only turns so radically.
Unless her tail is freakishly long (and strong to be to holding up that weight) and is curving up and down her back to accommodate that angle.
It's far more simple to just adjust the angle it approaches her rump at.
>>47903558
why always the NTR...
>>47903325
This is my Oracle, DM. Yeah, he's a boy, can't you tell?
>>47903582
>being in /tg/
>doesn't self-insert as the orcs
>>47903325
This my halfling bard
So the Dimensional Dervish feat, its totally legit on a Dragon Disciple, right?
>>47903605
NTR doesn't stop being NTR depending on who you self-insert as, anon.
>>47903325
Hey DM, here's my Kobold Rogue.
>>47903593
Where does he fit on our races table, anon? We're using these alternative rules remember. >>47903048
And the Shipping Pantheon. I'm gonna warn you, the adventure MAY take place in a junior high drama club.
>>47903646
So what, like, the god of airmail, the disgustingly obese goddess of international container cargos, the god of express delivery, and so on and so forth?
What's that got to do with a jr.high drama club?
>>47903616
Sauce?
>>47903678
No anon. Much worse.
>>47903707
>i contributed to that shit
>this is my immortality
>>47903736Whose afterlife do you go to though.
>>47903736
You think that's bad?
I pushed a webcartoonist into drawing ponies, and beta-read for one of the most pervasive, self-serving fanfics in that fandom.
It can be worse.
>>47903736
At least you contributed, anon. Godspeed and godbless.
>>47903325
Hey DM, Here's my Vigilante. I wanna homebrew a Frog Wildsoul, is that ok?
>>47903736
>this is my immortality
It could be worse. This is mine.
>>47903770
realtalk if i could figure out how to make Tsu i would lose my fucking mind.
>>47903425
Spellcasting has been clarified; the Occult Detective must take Divination at first level as one of his implement schools.
I've taken your suggestion with Superior Object Reading. It now allows for use at range.
Insight has been made a bit more similar to the Investigator's Inspiration ability.
Greater Magical Reading has been replaced with Investigative Magic, which grants a number of Divination spells that aren't on the Occultist's spell list as SLAs.
>>47903425
Detective Circles is something I'm still working on. Prescience has been clarified.
>>47903834
Grippli
I remember reading about this guy who made a Suli (at least I believe it was) that used the Wish spell or something similar to "grant wishes" like handing out buffs and such. It was a really cool concept but apparently I don't have it saved anywhere. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
>>47903847
nah you're just a crappy frog that can hardly do frog things then.
>>47903849
You're probably thinking of either the minor wishcraft trait, available to any geniekin (Ifrit, Undine, Sylphu, Oread, or Suli), or the Wishcrafter sorcerer archetype, available to Ifrits.
>>47903849
You may be thinking of the Wishcrafter sorcerer archetype.
They get some extra casting they can do, but someone else needs to make a wish for it.
>>47903770
>>47903834
She cute. Who dis?
>>47903883
Tsuyu Asui from Boku no Hero Academia.
You should give it a try, the show and manga are both damn good.
>>47903325
Hey DM, here's my Vigilante character. Oh yeah, I'll be multiclassing with Brawler.
>>47903915
>Batman
>Brawler/Vigilante
>Not Inquisitor
You're only setting yourself up for disappointment, anon.
>>47903780
I got lucky with mine. Mine is the game power level you guys dubbed "mans life"
>>47903930
Come on, anon, haven't you seen the comics?
"Batman - The World's Greatest Punch-fister!
>>47903930
You raise a good point there. I was just trying to steer clear of casting....but you raise a very valid point.
My group is thinking of running a monstergirl campaign
how do?
>>47903883
My fucking waifu thats who
>>47903930
>Bane class feature
>On Batman
>>47903956
Play female characters of more monstrous races
>>47903971
You don't understand. We have to go full monstergirl
>>47903958
That is an uncomfortable amount of saliva and I no longer want her, you're welcome to her.
>>47903915
How would you you go 'The Fastest Man Alive' on PF?
>>47903990
>Easy answer
Gitp monstrous progressions or DSP monstrous progressions.
>>47904058
Aegis 3 (psychoactive skin) with Student of the Astral Suit should give you 50 ft of bonus movement and +2 Dex for free.
UC Monk for fast movement, and for flurry of blows mimicking the Flash's multipunch attacks.
>>47904058
Synthesist summoner.
Dump all evolution points into movement.
>>47904090
>>47904095
>>47904058
Any way to translate total movespeed traveled on a charge into bonus damage?
>>47904166
There used to be something like that in 3e.
/tg/ even made a M.O.N.K (Monastic Order of the Nuclear Kick) missile using such a build.
Basically, it can run 10,000 ft. per round and jump 5,000 ft. in the air, causing this fucker to launch like an ICBM and kick someone in the face for 1d6+100000000 of fall damage.
>>47904205
I don't recall ever hearing of something like that.
>>47904227
You need to be more of a shut in then.
>>47904236
Then do you have a name for the ability that adds speed to charge damage?
>>47904249
It doesn't exist. Anon, even said that the bonus damage from a long charge came from a running jump that translated into falling damage at the of charge.
>>47904263
I don't think fall damage works that way in 3.5. I mean, yes hitting with a large item can deal falling damage, hulking hurler builds have been built that way. But increasing distances and charging should deal no where near that amount of damage, even as a drop, and you certainly wouldn't do that way a kick added on.
Should I craft Greater Talisman of Life's Breath for my NPC waifu? I have a feeling that my GM is going to target her soon...
>>47904449
You the guy that got cucked?
>>47904462
no. I don't know who you are talking about.
>>47904472
Someone from last thread
>>47903325
"And this is my Barbarian!"
>>47904517
I'd like to see him using his two-hander on me.
>>47904462
>>47904472
>>47904508
>>47904449
Actually 17.5k for once per day Breath of Life seems like a good investment for most Adventurer.
So how do I into Invulnerable Rager anyways
And if I can utilize it, isn't dimensional Dervish worth specing into for a gishy char?
We all know Golarion is shit, but what about third-party settings? Are any of them worthwhile?
>>47904533Maybe UDONYA doujinshi?
>>47904543
I think there's an armor quality that does that.
>>47904582
While Dimensional Dervish is nice and all... It doesn't worth freak 4-5 feats. Especially on gish who has a limited number of feat.
How does piercing thunder work in game? To be more specific I'm throwing a fire giant zweihander sentinel at a party, and giving him a polearm, iron tortoise, and piercing thunder as the disciplines he specializes in. You guys think that would work?
>>47904587
Nope.
>>47904587
Just do what my group does and play inFaerun.
>>47904630
God that's even worse. Just play in Eberron, at least that one isn't complete shit filled with mary sues fuckin' around everywhere.
>>47904618
yeah i'm looking at it and i can maybe pour 3 into it, but for fucks sake thats a lot
My game uses house rules to limit feat taxes but its pretty.. Its an investment.
>>47904612
That's +5 special ability though.
>>47904543
>>47904612
Determination. 30k flat cost.
>>47904643
Is it?
Huh, so it is.
>>47904660
Really weird that's a flat-cost one.
Also, the fuck's with the SRD listing flat-cost bonuses along with +value bonuses? Shouldn't they have their own section?
Alright well guess i'll go in on my problem
I'm enjoying building my gestalt Dragon Disciple Sorc / Barbarian, i'm just frustrated with that i feel I'll need to take beast totem to be effective, and I want to avoid having to take rage powers that are basically taxes to get there, i already ahve claws, i already have natural armor, ya know?
>>47904681
It's a flat cost to enhance but it's count as +5 for the purpose of enhancement limit.
So you can only have +3 Glammered Determination Fullplate for example.no comfort armor for you
>>47903417
Orcs Laying, anon.
Orcs. Laying.
>>47904728
Wait, is that how it works?
I thought they were just extra costs. I mean, the thing says...
>"Special abilities usually count as additional bonuses for determining the market value of an item, but do not improve AC."
>Usually.
Which means not always.
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/mud-in-your-eye-combat
>mfw you need two feats to throw feces
>mfw I have no face
>>47904728
Flat costs are only under the +enhancement tables for the purpose of random loot assignment. Not the +10 effective limit.
>>47904778
Ignore >>47904728 he's a dumbass. The flat costs are seperate from the +'s.
>>47904728
>It's a flat cost to enhance but it's count as +5 for the purpose of enhancement limit.
Flat costs don't count towards the enchantment limit.
>>47904789
Ahh, that would do it.
>>47904793
Will do, sirrah.
>>47904587
That neo exodus one looked neat, but I avoid paying for his stuff because he's such a prick to his writers.
Normally we just use various 2e/3e d&d settings, or homebrew something either from scratch, or cribbing stuff from other settings and videogames.
Golarion, Faerun, and Planescape are my personal go-to's. One friend is particularly fond of Ptolus, and Dungeon a day's dragon something something campaign setting.
>>47904635
I really don't understand this complaint. Faerun is a high powered setting. If you want to be a big deal, get powerful enough to be a big deal, rather than expecting to be seen as a big hero when you're the same level as the average guard in a large city.
You're level 6. You're not saving the world. You're stopping small-time crooks and bandits. Maybe doing some amateur treasure hunting.
Honestly, you might as well be complaining that there are too many superhumans in the marvel universe and that is hard for a beast cop to save the world from dormammu with all these super heroes running around. It's a setting about superhumans.
And faerun is a medieval fantasy setting about superhumans. But unlike marvel, anyone can become a superhuman, they just need proper training and experience. No freak accidents or weird genetics required.
>>47904835
The goddess of magic can literally take away magic from every evil person and solve all the problems with Elminster. They would have no way of doing anything and she'd be able to prevent all attempts against her by other gods because of portfolio sense. It's stupid and it doesn't make any sense that there's conflict between her allies and her enemies. The only one that could possibly stand up against her is Shar, and even that ends when the weave ends.
>>47904860
She isn't allowed to do that. If she did, Ao would bitchslap her until she stopped.
>>47904888
Gods don't actually have control over their portfolios then? Sounds like a shit setting.
>>47904835
>If you want to be a big deal, get powerful enough to be a big deal, rather than expecting to be seen as a big hero when you're the same level as the average guard in a large city.
But you'll never get powerful enough to be a big deal, because actual campaigns don't make it into the high levels.
>>47904894
Gods have limits in how and how much they can interfere, and if they overstep, they can literally be rendered mortal. It's a major plot point in the setting.
Her job is to keep magic and time working and make sure they're not used to destroy entire world, not abuse her God powers for her own personal wants.
>>47904835
>beast cop
That's my next M&M superhero name.
>>47904939
Stop starting at 1 and playing with slow exp progressions? I dunno what to tell you.
Our campaigns typically start at 4-5, and get to at least 13, often 15 or 16. That's meeting once a month, for 32 hours of gaming spread between 3 campaigns with different gms, and the campaign running between 8 and 12 months.
Just pace your XP progressions with the power curve you want your campaign to have and how long your going to play it.
>>47904991
And if you want to be a big deal in faerun, and have that be the focus of the campaign quickly, just start at 10 or 11.
>>47904991
Most people only have 4-5 hours weekly session.
The campaign life is only ~1 years.
People have job,life and other hobby they need to maintain.
>>47905040
Weekly? If I'm lucky I have a session once a month!
>>47904991
>>47905035
Players don't get to choose what level they start at though, and every hack DM insists on starting at level 1. Then the campaign fizzles out before reaching 5.
Someone needs to make a Forever Alone bloodline
Speaking of sessions, how was your last one, /pfg/?
We were exploring some kinda floating sea-laboratory, with a bunch of cells, pods, and prison cages in it.
One pod had a Worm That Walks in it, and a hugemassive cage had a spectral skeleton dragon in it. A Wyrm Wraith I think the DM said?
We haven't poked further at the Worm as yet, but the Dragon has apparently been there so long he can't even remember his own name anymore.
We can't get an alignment reading on the dragon through his cage, but the general party consensus so far is that it's some kinda evil lab doing experiments on people. Only things outside the cages have been evil as fuck, and according to dragon friend (More or less, sound can't penetrate his cage and he's mute anyway), they only get worse further down.
Next session? Poking at the Worm to see if he can communicate through his weird pod-cell, and trying to find if we can let out dragonbro.
>>47905140
They did, it's called the Aberrant bloodline and it involves living in a basement and shitposting.
>>47905040
Shit, man. My sessions are like 3 hours every other week most of the time.
>>47904835
Details on neo exodus and/or why the author is a shit? I'm not averse to stealing shit if he's a scumbag.
>>47905249
They pay half a cent per word to their writers.
>>47905198
Every other Saturday, get together at noon, grill food, eat, play for hours then eat leftovers from the grilling then continue playing til around midnight.
We've been doing this for the past 5 years, before then we were usually able to play every Saturday but then work schedules changed. The group has been gaming together for the past 16ish years, with a few of us having been gaming for 20+ years together.
>>47905262
Where did you hear that? My buddy gets paid well by them
>>47905380
http://www.enworld.org/forum/content.php?2301-What-s-a-Freelance-RPG-Writer-Worth
>>47904587
I like Kaidan and Jade Oath by Rite Publishing. Japanese horror and wuxia respectively.
Midgard from Kobold press is cool. Skybourne was almost cool.
How does it feel to be BTFO by the Spheres of Power writer, you RAW-loving autists?
http://pastebin.com/X2xe4atB
>Adam Meyers
>1 hr
>I hereby move that people who hold to RAW (rules-as-written) to such a degree that they destroy games and make things unfun or unusable should be called ogres. (because they RAW'r so much).
>Just like we say 'don't feed the trolls' or 'he's trolling you' when we mean being a jerk, we can say 'stop being an ogre' when we mean don't nitpick the rules, or 'that feat is ogre-bait' when we mean RAW and RAI are clearly different.
>>47905406
Oh hush up.
'to such a degree that they destroy games and make things unfun or unusable' is pretty clear that it's specifically in reference to 'fucking assholes'
>>47905390
Fuck man that's sad.
>>47905406
>forrest being a prick about a silly joke about RAWtism
all my heroes are false
>>47905406
I'm glad to hear him admit he can't write rules worth shit.
>>47905431
>being a prick when a writer who claimed that anecdotes are the only viable playtest feedback posts complaining about nitpickers
>>47905406
>DSP picking at the RAW of a statement about people picking at RAW
I'm not even sure who to cheer for, this whole thing is pathetic.I'm totally going to start calling RAWfags ogres now though.
>>47905431
Forrest is a RAWtard though, I thought?
>>47905406
Nobody's perfect.
>>47905406
>attempting to force something into popular vernacular on a flimsy justification
>getting the definition of trolling wrong
>"I-I'm not wrong, stop reading what I wrote, read what I intended!"
>mfw
Meyers should be shot twice.
>>47905485
>forcing something into vernacular
>mentioning it once offhand on a facebook group
Yes anon, I can already feel the nanoscopic memebots going to work on the language centers of my brain.
>>47905485
Jade and Forrest aren't looking too hot either.
>>47905431
Forrest? Where? I just see Gareth.
(he's right though)
>>47905511
Forrest is in the replies of one of the first responses.
>>47905525
Now THIS is what I call premium trollin'!
>>47905525
Jade is Gareth.
>>47905525
> She
I have some bad news, anon.
>>47905525
Jade is a man, baby.
What are the advantages of Pathfinder over other DnD editions and games?
> GM attacked player who were already unconcious.
> Bitch when everyone is constantly under the effect of invisibility/displacemenr/mirror image
What the hell does he expect?
>>47905525
>post criticizing Gareth disappears as soon as anon is informed it's Gareth
The shilling, it's subtle.
>>47905561
More customization due to rule bloat.
Caster are stronger and more durable than 3.5
>>47905561
Oh, sweetie. Literally none. Run. Run far and fast.
>>47905558
This is some sort of new trolling, isn't it?
>>47905564
I am glad mine is still there.>>47905509
>>47905558
>If I keep posting this picture, then EVENTUALLY GARETH-SENPAI WILL NOTICE ME.
>mfw my DM greenlights the princess class
>>47905572
Yes anon, it's ogreing.
>>47905583
What is princess?
>>47905593
QAnon brought it a few days ago
https://imgur.com/a/L6oqI
>>47905593
The Royal class from that pretty-decently-made babby's first 3pp supplement that got posted a bit ago.
It's basically like, a 3/4 spontaneous divine caster, with some neat abilities depending on the 'destiny' you pick.
>>47905584
I thought we were ogre this already.
>>47905593
>>47905604
Low tier 3 at best.
Half SPONTANEOUS casting off cleric list = shit
>>47905605
It's like an onion. There are many layers to this issue.
>>47905615
Tier 3 is what you should aim for, you prick.
>>47905620
LOW tier 3, no.
>>47905626
Are you seriously suggesting fucking granularity in tiers now?
Tiers 3-4 is good.
>>47905626
God I'm sick of that meme
>>47905406
>Why do people complain about my RAW?
>We should make fun of them!
Why can't he write better content with all that time he spends whining about criticism?
>>47905638
He gave an example of some mages lined up shoulder to shoulder, and some guy complaining about people needing 5-foot spaces. Basically insisting that people couldn't physically exist in the same 5-foot area.
>>47905650
>Golarion is full of people with literal personal space
>they can only walk in exact 5 foot increments
>measuring things diagonally is.. difficult
> Want to play spirit dancer medium
> realize I have to do 6x amount of paper work each game day, including spell selection and skill selection.
> lost all interest
What stopping you from playing that one class you always want to play anon?
>>47905601
>>47905604
I like it. Especially the way influence was handled.
>>47905633
Tier creep. It used to be that /pfg/ said 3-4 was good, then it was only 3 is good, and now it's only mid-to-high 3 is good. Give 'em six months and they'll be edging into "only high 3s and low 2s are acceptable"
>>47905659
>>47905650
Space only matters in combat. Outside of combat, people just take up a person's size worth of space.
>>47905659
>measuring things diagonally is.. difficult
You just alternate 5's and 10's, duh.
5 - 15 - 20 - 30
>>47905674
Even better.
>you can always tell when someone means you harm when everyone in the room suddenly drifts 5 feet apart from each other
>>47905665
> want to play shadowcaster
> it sucks hard and in our meta it wouldn't last the first encounter
> party always has battlefield control already
> rolls aren't good enough for a class that MAD
>>47905665
>be a professor
>have to use Intelligence all day IRL
>come to the gaming table and just want to hit shit without thinking too much or juggling class options
The fact that Fighters suck
>>47905690
>rolls
EWWWWWWWWWWW
Go away and never come back.
>>47905703
Well, they've edged into usability.
WMH has really nice things in it, and Combat Stamina has some gems.
>>47905731
The problem is that necessitates the exact type of build complexity he wants to avoid.
He should really be playing barbarian.
>>47905758
Barbarians basically need 2 character sheets and become weird when they go unconscious.
>Slayer is what he needs.
>Slayer: "Whose the guy?!?"
>Party: "him"
>Slayer: "fuck that guy" *studies target*
Any weapon. Any enemy type. Can still roll to find them track them kill them.
>>47905758
It's not that weird. You lose extra hp for going unconscious because you fell out of rage.
Raging Vitality stops you from dropping out of rage when you go unconscious, AND increases your raging con bonus by 2 to boot.
