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>>47799579
RESOURCES
>Official Site: Contains deck building rules and the current ban list.
http://www.mtgcommander.net
>Deck List Site: You can search for decks that other people have made. Authors often have comments that explain their deck’s strategy and card choices.
http://www.tappedout.net
>Another resource for commander discussion; they have an entire forum dedicated to discussing decks. People often make primers, which go into detail about how they built and play their deck.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/commander-edh
>Statistically see what everyone else puts in their commander decks based on what is posted to the internet.
http://www.edhrec.com/
>Find out what lands you can add to your deck, sorted by category, based on a chosen Commander’s color identity.
http://manabasecrafter.com/
>CARD SEARCHING
>Official search site. Current for all sets.
http://gatherer.wizards.com/
>Unofficial, but has GOAT search interface
http://www.magiccards.info
First for spending hours building a deck, playing it once then building a new one
>>47818280
Worst is when you think it'll be good and it ends up sucking balls
Been thinking of getting Freyalise, she looks like a lot of fun. Is the package good on it's own or should I buy all the cards separate. I also have Daretti Never Forgetti and his pre-construction was good enough.
>>47818299
that's me, all the time
>>47818220
I include Void Attendant in my Meren deck just to fuck with people who use/abuse Suspend.
Infuriates my friend who plays Jhoira to no end.
>>47818280
>Playing decks
>>47818317
>paying $50 for cards that come prepackaged for $35
Why?
First for refining a deck and picking up cards for it until it becomes a brick shithouse.
Based Orzhov Control Ayli.
>>47818317
The deck is good but >>47818370 brings up a valid point unless you can find it for MSRP in a store you would be better off just buying singles from it that you want
More like Wishful Thinking Edition, amirite
>>47818299
All my decks, all the time. I build thinking on a more friendly meta, why do I always do that...
>>47818565
>>47818370
I thought he was saying he was going to buy all the cards from the Green deck individually. That's like $65.
You can still get the precon on TCGplayer for $35.
>>47818433
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/oprah-cracked-out/
thats what i brewed a few days ago, if you are interested
>>47818220
>All of Jhoira's story and flavor show her as an artificer
>Most cards referencing her are artifacts
>HURR DURR LET'S MAKE HER A SUSPEND ENGINE
Fuck Wizards
>>47818777
Time Spiral block, man.
I'm more pissed about Noyan Darr being a land wizard rather than a counterspell guy.
What's some of the best big fat creature commanders, besides Johira, Kaalia, and animar?
>>47818839
Mayael and Karador are good
Could also do Sidisi/Gitrog for reanimator shenanegans
>>47815801
>>47815868
Damn, I guess that infinite mana combos are the only way to go with UB and UBx commanders?
Thats lame as fuck.
>>47818839
Jalira, Braids, Mayael, Rakdos, Xenagos, Azusa
>>47819006
You can go infinite mana and infinite combos with just artifacts man. Unwinding Clock + Myr Turbine + Time Seive with enough myrs to just infinite turns. Infinite mana requires almost the same thing but with unwinding clock + myr turbine and some mana rock.
>>47818299
Experiment Kraj for me.
Packing enough card draw and still coming up short.
>>47819092
>Braids
I am actually curious as to why cabal minion is banned, I know regular isn't banned but what is so special about black braids?
>>47818800
I was more pissed about him being UW than UG.
>>47819181
>regular
no, the Cabal Braids is the original. She's banned because nofun removal engine
>>47819219
Man I don't pay attention to this game's storyline although maybe I should, did it really matter either way?
Anyone got suggestions for token creature generators for Prossh?
I picked up Orochi Hatchery recently, have Mycoloth, Avenger of Zendikar, Dragon Broodmother, the red 1/1 elemental tempting card, doubling season and primal vigor.
Thanks!
>>47819308
Yeah. Colorshifted Braids (the blue one) only exists in an alternate universe version of Dominaria where she never became part of the Cabal. A lot of legendaries in the Time Spiral block are from alternate universes.Planar Chaos-esque block with colorshifted planes and legendaries never ever
>>47819181
Drop Braids turn 2 on the play with Dark Rit or Sol Ring, watch everyone sac their only land.
>>47819396
There is nothing wrong with that, especially with my group.
>>47819368
Guess I'll read up on the story until it bores me
>>47819448
The Weatherlight and Dominaria lore stuff can be a clusterfuck, with all the novels and shit. Things get more streamlined once you hit post-mending, which is after Future Sight. The lore nowadays is ehh tier, but it's gotten us some good stuff.
>>47819312
You got Fresh Meat, parallel lives, sprout swarm?
Also worm harvest is good, depending on whether you run life from the loam effects etc.
>>47819145
The point is that I don't want to do infinite combos, period.
>>47819209
Oh, because he animates lands? Because as a former lullmage, he does feel UW.
But yeah, shit is a GU mechanic.
>>47819507
>Point is you don't want to do infinite combos, period.
I play with tryhards, I will take any infinite combo I can get
>>47819448
I don't necessarily agree with the Braids ban, but that is the reason. Personally I think she's a great example of a card that is only broken because of the RC's refusal to ban Sol Ring/Mana Crypt.
>>47818800
TSP was solid overall though
Except for Grandeur being almost useless in EDH and underwhelming otherwise
>>47819600
I love Granduer. Excellent design. Not everything can be for EDH. Doubling Chant is an amazingly cool card, even if it sucks in EDH.
Sup lads, I just joined the navy not too long ago, so I was thinking that it would be fun to build a deck with a nautical theme. Stuff like Hannah ship's navigator, lighthouse chronologist, star compass, that kind of stuff. But I have no idea where to start or even what would make a good commander. Any ideas?
>>47819662
That's a fair point
>>47819501
Working on getting parallel lives, thinking about sprout swarm (thanks for the idea!) and fresh meat now.
>>47819181
Fast mana her on turn 1 and watch everyone who didn't start with a Sol Ring/Mana Crypt weep as they can't play shit. I would happily accept her unban if Ring took her place or some shit.
>>47819368
>Planar chaos-esque block with colorshifted planes
Holy shit why has Wizards not done this? Did the Time Spiral block not do well or are they just being cucks and not doing something like it again?
>>47819662
There is an infinite combo involving Baru, where you create a copy of him and then bounce and you can discard him to the copy. I don't remember the names of the cards that do it, but google has the forum threads. Just interesting that the least commander useful mechanic has an infinite combo.
>>47819676
Hear me out: Hanna Battleships, Hanna at the helm and big artifacts/enchantments and the Skyships.
Which legendary from Dragon's Maze makes for a good commander?
>>47819775
Melek
>>47819775
Varolz for Voltron.
>>47819775
>voice of resurgance
>>47819872
Varolz is shit
>>47819746
It could be really fun to do an alt-history Ravnica with versions of various characters who joined different guilds than their canon counterparts. Maybe keep one of the colors, like a Rakdos Tbor and Lumia or a Selesnya Jarad.
>>47819915
Good thinking
>>47819915
Or an Innistrad with enemy color pair tribals
>WB zombies (a la thrulls)
>UR spirits (more violent, almost elemental spooks)
>BG vampires (instead of vampire houses, they're vampire tribes)
>RW humans (Inquisitions up the ass)
>GU werewolves (artificially created mutation instead of naturally ocurring curse)
And maybe some other planes with alternate continuities.
>>47819746
Time Spiral had a lot of references to past stuff that the new players (at the time) wouldn't have gotten. The block was a love letter to the early years of Magic, especially the first set, and it didn't rake in new players
>>47819907
>what are good commanders from a set with only 10 viable cards
>no he's shit!
Don't bother asking then, faggot.
>>47820084
Oh man
>Eldritch Moon doesn't have a RG werewolf legend
>People get pissed
>Some time down the line, Wizards announces a 3rd Innistrad block
>Absolutely 100% confirms a werewolf legend but doesn't spoil it until full spoilers come out at end of spoiler season
>It's fucking Simic colors
The asshurt would be fucking Biblical
>>47819746
Rosewater has said several times that WotC considers Planar Chaos a huge mistake because "muh color pie"
>>47819775
Everyone except Emmara Tandris, really
my only good deck for edh
i only won 2 games with this deck out of 6 casual games
my friends have
karn and vela
nekusar
marath, will of the world and daxon precon
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mine-to-sac-edh-1/
anything should be added or removed?
>>47819860
>>47819872
>>47819875
>>47820949
Thanks. I was thinking of buying a Dragon's Maze booster box because my LGS is selling it for 75. Any other good cards for edh in there other than painlands?
>>47821002
Painlands aren't in dragon's maze, i think you mean the shock lands but those are in rtr and gatecrash as well as the og ravnica sets. Only special lands in maze are maze's end and the 10 guildgates.
>>47819312
In my experience the tokens prossh makes are usually enough to get there. 6 is a lot, especially when you can sacrifice prossh to some dank sac outlet and replay him for 8 then 10 ect ect. That being said, Xenagos the Reveler and Chancellor of the Forge are both great for tokens.
(Pic related are what I use for kobolds since wizards never made any official ones, generates maximum butthurt in the correct circumstances)
>>47820973
insurrection, viscera seer, smothering abomination, act of agression, sadistic hypnotist, mulldrifter, deadeye navigator, both the red and blue primodials, both charms (grixis and crosis), dread bore, hero's downfall and cruel ultimatum, for starters. gimmie a sec to copy and post what i'd do with the deck, because you are all over the place. just a suggestion, but let me show you
>>47821088
The guildgates are also in the other two RTR expansios, he's probably better off choosing a legend and buying singles. Unless he's aiming to maybe pull a Ral Zarek or Voice.
>>47821186
>wizards never made any official ones
What about pic related?
>>47819312
Neat, never seen those before. Are you sure it's real?
>>47819312
One more dank token generator if you're in the right meta.
So when I found out that Scarecrow was a creature type I'd always wanted to build a deck with them. So I'm looking to build a Reaper Kong deck, and since I'm super cheap and not in a position to blow gobs of shekels, I wanted to go budget.
I found what appears to be a nice budget list on mtggoldfish,
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-commander-reaper-king
And was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on upgrades. Looks like there's not too many stellar scarecrows, so the deck tries to fake it a bit with changelings and the like.
>>47821385
All of those cards are real
>>47821439
Meant it as a response to >>47821278
>>47821398
Most of the scarecrows are shit creatures so changelings are a good addition to them to make the tribal. You might want to add in some spot removal
>>47821398
You're on U and B, stick Conspiracy and Xenograft in the deck and you're dandy
>>47820973
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mine-to-sac-edh-copy/
here. if i had your cards, thats how i would set that deck up. anyone want to chime in, go for it
I've been thinking about throwing together a Niv-mizzet deck. Is there any fun stuff to run with him or does he get auto hated for the curiosity combo? Pic unrelated.
>>47821771
Back in my day it was ophidian eye, but generally I've had no problem with him the times I've faced him.
>>47821635
Yeah, deck looked light on that. I'll throw a Path and StP into it.
How much spot removal is necessary for an EDH deck on average? Could always throw in Tragic Slip and the like, too.
>>47821771
Niv was the first EDH deck I ever built. After the first time I combo'd off, anyone I played with who knew him focused me first. Unless there was a Narset or a Nekusar at the table.
Puzzlebox, Arjun, and Mind Moil are all fun cards with him.
>>47821850
That deck is adorable.
>>47821808
Depends on meta, I think. I'd go fit the readily available, mortify, putrefy, tragic slip, anguished unmaking, vandalblast, swords to p, return to dust, krosan grip, at least
>>47821385
One more card for the list. Thanks!
>>47819761
That is a is a good idea, but it doesn't really have the nautical theme I want. I just don't think there's enough white stuff that goes with the theme. I don't think I'll use Hanna for this afterall
>>47821850
Kek, this looks like fun. Thanks for sharing
If your commander had a theme song, what would it be and why?
>>47821850
this is where this deck is at its best, as a list for you to look over
actually playing this garbage would be so boring
>>47822513
Biomancer has to be one of my favorites in Experiment Kraj
>>47822564
>pic
Clever
>>47822513
http://youtu.be/RF7ONGguSeg for my Nekusar deck because I have to get lucky and get a mass bounce/wheel/burn combo before I get punched in the face.
That and skeletons I guess.
>>47822513
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WLaokaXmXkU
Take a random guess as to whom it is
>>47822513
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xat1GVnl8-k
Ezuri, Claw of Progress
>Why?
Because ezuri's touch is what gives the creatures them +1/+1 counters plus it has infect
>>47822513
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cWbLagjxbA
If I alreaedy have a precon, is it worth it to buy another (thinking of getting Ezuri)?
>>47822513
https://youtu.be/3ahoqR6OGdM?t=31s
>>47822695
>>47822819
>>47822906
Please explain
>>47822869
The precons work well enough on their own, so go ahead. Besides, it's probably cheaper than netdecking if you don't already have some cards.
>>47823047
Speaking of netdecking, I have a couple commander decks I wanna run so I was thinking of netdecking some cheaper ones and then upgrading them over time. Or should I just save up and buy a more expensive deck?
>>47822869
The ezuri precon? Its playable out of box but requires alot of work to tune into a well oiled deck. Meren is the most viable straight out of box, honestly just needs dictate of erebos and grave pact.
>>47821704
Thank you
I have some the cards
I will have to get the other ones
Thank you
>T2 Hokori
>T3 Eon Hub
>T4 Sword of Feast and Famine
Oh I'm a naughty boy
>>47819775
Valroz infect.
>>47818777
>implying jhoira's story isn't 100% about time manipulation
If you're gonna be a fag about card flavor at least be right
>>47820084
I'd probably switch the vampire amd zombie colors, but that does sound fun.
>guy in our group has a deck completely proxied
>not even good fakes literally just printed put of a printer and put in sleeves
>seeing as this is ok I print out a rishadan port to use in a deck
>proxy guy points out this isn't fair for me to proxy cause of how expensive it is
>he has a proxy of bayou
Why are some proxyfags upset when you use their own game against them?
>>47823941
Looking at it again, I suppose I should've switched it, yeah
Damn, now I want to make up a what-if set based around this
>>47824207
Why is every single green text story in these threads a transparent lie?
>>47824207
I don't like this meme
>>47824207
Can we be done with this? The last 3 threads have been shitted up by this proxy debate.
Any descent decks for $20 shipped?
>>47824291
Define decent
>>47824315
Capable of winning a game every now and then or at least able to hold its own
>>47824265
>>47824267
>>47824281
You can try not replying? Eventually these people will shut up about it and go back to the modern threads where they belong
>>47824341
It depends on the competition but in my opinion the answer is no
No such $20 deck exists
You should look into pauper edh tho
here's something that happened last night
>testing new Darien deck, other guy is playing Kemba
>i have a pretty slow hand, other guy starts out with a land tax
>blow up his land tax pretty early on, drop my own land tax
>eventually get Darien on the field with suture priest and soul's attendant
>start using jade monolith to endlessly gain life and make soldiers
>have heliod and both odrics, smash in for almost lethal
>he drops wrath of god
>on his end step, throw out faith's reward
>guy scoops
help this deck is way better than it has any business being
>>47824431
Wow I'm so impressed like damn, how did you get so good at this game?
Kemba is tippy top tier so for you to beat that deck is just...wow
>>47824431
Got a list? My buddy has been trying to get Darien to work forever and it sounds like you may have cracked the code.
>>47824431
Faith's reward doesnt bring back tokens dude.
>>47824503
He still would have better board and would be able to make more tokens.
>>47824534
Well the kemba player sucks, nothing impressive about winning against him then
>>47824609
Monowhite sucks
>>47824630
>Monowhite sucks
>mfw I was nearly rekt by an Isimaru tron deck and can no longer say that with confidence
>>47824657
Maybe it's time to upgrade your deck, even in duel I can't see Isamaru being that good
>>47824463
i don't have a list on me but i'll make one in a little while, i'm pretty busy right now
>>47824503
my board was good enough that the tokens weren't necessary for the win
>>47824609
his kemba deck is actually one of the best decks that i've ever played against
>>47824677
I had good artifact removal, it's just that I was so busy duking it out with the Sliver player that I couldn't do much when he swung with a hexproof dog using three pairs of boots, a god-killing sword, and a magic spear.
>>47824763
Does anyone have the image of Isimaru suited up?
>>47820711
Man, I just wish they would ban the whole set from real play then. If they weren't "real cards" for philosophical color pie reasons, then we shouldn't use them.
How many commander decks is too many commander decks?
>>47825170
When you start considering premodern commanders.
>>47825170
as long as you're not taking out loans to pay for them you're probably fine
Ok, /edhg/. Here's a list of every deck I have ever built. What decks should I put together? What do you think would be the most fun/interesting to see?
What is built currently has a *
>5c
Karona combats
Reaper King combo
>WRB
Kaalia reanimator combo
Alesha weenie value/combo*
>BUG
Vorosh voltron
>WBG
Doran fatass value
Teneb reanimator
>WBU
Merieke control
Sydri combo
>RGB
Sek'Huar Ratpocalypse
Xira druid tribal
>RGW
Mayael Fatties and Value
Marath Combo
Gahiji Planeswalkers*
>BWU
Jenara Voltron
Roon Flicker town
Rubina control
>RBU
Nicol Bolas control
Jeleva combo
>UW
Hanna Control
Ephara Blinks
Lavina control
>BW
Teysa 1.0 Human combo
Teysa 2.0 Exile Control
Selenia Life control
>RW
Kalemne Voltron
>GW
Saffi combo
Karametra value
>GU
Newzuri Value
Primespeaker value clones
>GB
Pharika land affliction
Meren Value
>GR
Ulasht Tokens
Stonebrow Dragons
Wort Tokens
Atarka World Render Dragons
>BR
Newlivia vampire Tribal*
Rakdos LoR value beatdown
Malphegor deal with this shit
>BU
Wydwen Voltron control
Vela combo
>R
Ashling burn control
Chandra burn control
Akroma big red
Jeska voltron Control
Zo-Zu Worldfire surprise
Kazuul Shrek puns
Kamhal Combo
>W
Nahiri equipment sweepers
Radiant Angel and flying tribal
Linvala bell lockout
>G
Freya Elfball
Yeva surprise
Nylea stompy
>U
Rayne combo control
Thada prowl bullshit
>B
Liliana hand control
Gisa FUCKIN ZOMBIES*
Korlash Voltron
Drana big mana black
Marrow-Gnawer RATS
Hythonia bad control
>Colorless
Newzilek pretty basic
>>47825170
I rarely have more than 2 built at the same time, but I have decklists for over 40 commanders and I don't plan on stopping anytime soon
Hey /tg/, I got a question. I want to make a Jenara deck, but Im not sure what to make with her.
I can do Angel tribal, Enchantress (which is kind of weak because the card draw just isnt there sometimes, I know this from my sigarda deck) or +1/+1 counters all day.
Which one would be better?
>>47823566
how did you turn 3 eon hub with hokori out?
>>47823448
its not perfect, but its theoretically more consistant. good luck, candy man
>>47821088
>>47821261
Shocks can come from Dragon's Maze, same how you could pull a fetch from Dragons of Tarkir.
>>47821002
Buy it. It'sfunto draft as well, just host a draft and say that you keep the cards.
>>47825553
>Shocks can come from Dragon's Maze, same how you could pull a fetch from Dragons of Tarkir.
Learn something new every day
>>47825553
Yeah, I might buy a box for draft fun and stuff
Then again, if EMN has good cards, I might buy a box of that on my birthdaywhich is when it's released
>>47825465
Got the best opening hand I could want. Vault, Crypt and Sol Ring out T1, they stuck and that was that
>>47824907
Some of the experiments worked. But it is a dangerous territory to play in.
>>47825971
EMA is 3-5x the price, and doesn't contain as manyfunEDH staples
>>47827728
I said EMN you dope.
Eldritch Moon
>>47827776
Im' an retarded.
Though ifmy opinioncounts for anything, Dragon's Maze is more fun to draft than SOI, meaning EMN might also follow the same pattern.
SOI also had less EDH staples, same for Origins. Trend seems to suggest sets are gonna be less funin my opinion.
Can I get /tg/'s thought on these two decks I made? I really like Stitcher Geralf but realized he might not be extremely effective in mono blue, considering the very good black zombies.
Mono Blue Geralf
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/stitched-back-together/
BU Grimgrin
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sewn-back-together/
I really like the synergy between the two siblings in the Grimgrin deck but considering I'm trying to keep it under 100$ for now, this is proving to be quite a challenge.
>>47827871
Shadows has some Fantastic potential for staples.
Playable bi lands
Nahiri is looting, removal, and drops a bomb into play
Traverse the Ulvenwald is basically another Worldly Tutor
Declaration in stone is insane
Restless Dead is fantastic
Cryptolythic Rite is basically a modern Earthcraft
Eerie Interlude is another Ghostway
To the Slaughter is fantastic
Anguished Unmaking is also fantastic
Second Harvest is going into every token deck
Altered Ego is stupid good
Gitrog Monster is a staple
Descend upon the Sinful is a better final judgement
Seasons Past is nuts
Ulvenwald Hydra is fixed prime time
There are other cards that will easily see play
>>47828158
Don't forget our boy odric, he's almost an auto include in weenies
>>47828046
I've personally never seen a Grimgrin deck yet, maybe it's like that at your LGS, maybe not.
Stay away from Zombie tribal. Get recursion dudes, that's important.
Bloodsoaked Champion, Reassembling Skeleton, Bloodghast, Gravecrawler (in your list) come to mind.
You're gonna want to go fast with Grimgrin to make the most out of him.
>>47828158
>Lands:
Lands are always staples
>Nahiri
>> RW, planeswalker in a multiplayer format
ye ok
>Declaration in Stone
Mono white maelstrom pulse/10, its ok->decent
>Restless Dead
Lmao, a slow grind-based zombie
>Cryptolith Rite
One of the few cards I preordered, its ok
>Eerie Interlude
Ghostway doesn't see much play
>To the Slaughter
Punisher mechanic sucks balls, also targets one player
>Anguished Unmaking
Now this is actually playable
>Second Harvest
winmore
>Altered Ego
Clone that is not Phantasmal Image/10
>Gitgud Monstor
Actually good
>Descend Upon the Sinful
Also Good
>Seasons Past
Ehh, feels too Jund. Not bad though
>Ulvenwald Hydra
>>fixed prime time
thats the problem
>>47828193
>New Odric
Haven't seen him yet, can't say much
Post what cards you've managed to acquire from EMA lads
Pic related
>>47828709
Nothing
Haven't bought a single pack
>>47828709
already have all from their OG sets :^)
>>47828727
I mean I bought two packs (got the Top and Maze from them) but mostly traded for or bought the rest.
So I am making two new decks after jumping on the Puca Wagon. Trading an Inquisition of Kozilek for two Mind's Eyes+ was pretty cool. Anyways I made Purphoros and am working on Phelddagrif to minimize the butthurt.
Where can I get Hippo Tokens?
>>47828282
>>Nahiri
>>> RW, planeswalker in a multiplayer format
>ye ok
RWx is plenty popular enough, especially Naya. WRB has Kaalia and WRU has Narset.
>>Declaration in Stone
>Mono white maelstrom pulse/10, its ok->decent
It's also usable in far more decks.
>>Restless Dead
>Lmao, a slow grind-based zombie
It's a zombie that brings back zombies. Zombie tribal is a loved thing. Also, don't pretend decks built to grind don't win.
>Ghostway doesn't see much play
Whatever you say champ
>>To the Slaughter
>Punisher mechanic sucks balls, also targets one player
Til instant edicts are bad
>>Second Harvest
>winmore
It's an instant that doubles your board state You can cast EoT to double your fire power and win the game on your turn. Hell, you might flat out win on the spot if Purph is out.
>>Altered Ego
>Clone that is not Phantasmal Image/10
I didn't realize that no decks in the history of edh, especially not GUx, have ever used any clones ever besides Phantasmal Image. Why would anyone, epseically GUx, want with an uncounterable clone that has the potential to be huge?
>>Seasons Past
>Ehh, feels too Jund. Not bad though
You think Jund? Not bant? Swords, Counterspell, Witness, Snake, Force, Deadeye, Palinchron
>>>fixed prime time
>thats the problem
You're saying no one is going to use it because it doesn't break the game?
>>47828709
2 tops, chrome mox, mana crypt, deathrite and a foil swords, fact or fiction and other fancy lil cards.
>>47828709
Considering my luck, I'd pay $10 for a $.25 mythic, so I haven't bought any. In fact, I've avoided going to the shop at all because I'd just get depressed seeing all the expensive shit dropping so low, but still being unable to purchase what I want.
>>47829232
Nice pulls! Mana Crypt is something of a pipe dream for me at this point haha.
>>47829272
I only bought the two packs because my pack luck has been garbage lately so I figured I'd have to rebound sometime. Sorry about your money troubles friend!
>>47829426
Random thought: I bought a box of New Phyrexia long ago when I was a broke college student, it was probably one of the best investments into my MtG gaming. I went back through it and there are so many commons and uncommons worth a few bucks. Basically any phyrexian mana card (fucking gitaxian probe), blighted agent, glistener elf, beast within, mindcrank, deceiver exarch. If I hadn't traded the 3 Karn's and 2 spellskites I pulled before modern was a thing I would probably own a mana crypt.
Thanks for reading my blog
>lgs so small doesn't even get masters
> has no edh
> friends that play are casual as fuck and can be barely arsed to make a regular deck let alone an edh deck even though I bring it up almost weekly
Life is suffering
>>47829681
>live in SoCal
>3 decent sized LGS within 15m drive
>play EDH every saturday afternoon
>>47829860
> live in SoCal
My condolences
>>47829860
Where in so cal? I'm up in the valley, and I don't know how the lgs scene is
>>47830600
Not the anon you are replying to, but I live in Midcity and there are a couple in about 1-15 miles away from me. The one I frequent doesn't have a lot of casual magic nights though, besides regular EDH night. Most of it is just tournaments and shit like that.
>>47830762
Ah, I'm up in Granada, I did a search, but closest is a place called of fire and dice, but ive not been since its really out of the way. Game ogre is closer but the shop is mainly miniatures
>>47821002
Only 3 card in the set worth more than $5 (voice, tal and elemental token) rest of the set is liquid poo, better off buying singles if anything else
I just need to find a playgroup I like. That's the only answer.
>guy in group is pushing "standard edh"
>not actually standard at all
>uses all product released from the last precon
>currently uses Pre cons, Bless v Cursed, OGW, and SOI
>now uses Eternal Masters
It's so fucking annoying. He's the only one that has most of the good shit from EMA and wanderer is his favorite commander. He has 2 normal Wanderer edh decks, one of which is worth more than what I paid for my car. Now, he gets to use him in this shitty format.
Jokes on him, though. Found a familiar combo that he hates. Sun Titan and Animate Dead. With Aiyli as the commander, I can easily get infinite life with Sifter of Skulls. I also have access to Ashnod's Altar, Gravecrawler, Blood Artist, and Falkreath Noble. On top of that, I have all of the removal forever in BW.
>>47829426
Thanks man, I was really banking on trying to not hit a bad mythic and I'm quite glad with the haul. Shit I'm building an artifact deck as we speak.
>>47830762
>1 hour 51 min away
>>47830904
>1 hour 24 min away
If only you two lived closer to me. I am in dire need of a new group
>>47832050
Bakersfield? Slo?
>>47832071no its a shithole called California City
>>47832120
Ouch. My condolences...
>>47832212
Its ok, at least I work in Bakersfield.
>mfw i only want foils on puca but im not paying $45-95 a year for the privilege
>>47831928
Why do you chose to play with this guy?
>>47832738
I've been with this group for awhile now. There are no other groups. The closest other groups are a group of highschool bronies literally wearing fedoras while openly discuss what a cuck is who think Nessian Wild Ravager is hot shit, or a newer group at a newer store who play painfully under powered decks that are actually fine within their own group. Really, the lesser of evils.
Admittedly, I'm not sure I'll be invited back anyway.
>>47832811
My condolences, I have no idea why someone who wants to play a commander who is as busted as maelstrom wanderer would go full retarded and try and place format restrictions on peopleIn my opinionsthe only real way to enjoy this format is to find a power level your play group can all enjoy and then just self limiting your deck building so it doesn't go beyond that point
>>47832991
We're actually at a power level we all enjoy, which is pretty high powered actually. Like, we've played at other places an hour or two away and there was no contest. We're not 5c hermit druid T2 gg-no-re levels, but the kiddie gloves have long come off. I actually took apart some of my decks because they were too consistent. I loved playing them, but my group didn't. I could've kept them, but idk.
Qucik question /EDHCG/, How do I build a Selvala, Explorer returned deck?
I usually play combo decks in UR, RUG,and BU, but I recently decided to try something new, but I kinda don't know how to.
Any Tips?
Should I just play Edric instead?Are there any infinite combos with this general/any I can put into the deck?
>>47833100
I am a combo player at heart. My main deck, Jarad, is semi-retired due to being too consistent for my group. I have a tutorless Intet Dragonstorm deck to scratch my combo itch while not making games unfun for the rest of the table. When facing some high power opponent's though, I still love to bust out Jarad.
>>47833208
stop being a casual and learn to play colors that don't involve U. in EDH using U is a crutch
>>47833284
I enjoy combo for sure, but I had purposefully built a few without infinites to prove I didn't need it. Best one was Liliana, which was just a grindy hand destruction deck that eventually won by forcing an Emblem. I was specifically told by one guy that he hated it, which was a compliment to me, but I didn't want to play it much anymore.
My best deck though, was Saffi. Hands down. It was super quick, super resilient, had answers to everything, and was fun and interactive. However, constant tweaking made it too consistent.
Idk, man. I might put it back together. Then again, I have played once in the last month and a half, so who knows.
>>47825359
>autism
>>47831928
That sounds miserable.
>>47833208
if you play in a 5-6 man group try putting in a umbral mantle.
That way you have a chance to use her ability a unlimited amount fo times.
So I just had this idea to make a deck with nothing but things in it that are indestructible. I think it would be great fun, but I want to know your thoughts.
>>47834850
Most targeted removal in the format exiles so indestructible doesnt matter as much, you could possibly do it in R/W as they have the most creatures with indestructible maybe splash green or black for your own removal but you will probably need some goodstuff filler as well
>>47834850
Child of alara, 5c indestructible tribal.
What are some must-haves for 5c EDH lads? I was thinking of just making it 5c SuperFriends so Oath of Nissa, Chromatic Lantern, and Doubling Season seem like autoincludes.
>>47835635
You know thats not half bad. I actually bought a foil child back when I started playing as the first commander I wanted to build, but I didnt because mana base was too costly.
>>47835941
Mirari'S Wake comes to mind. Conflux for hand refill?
>>47835941
bring to light
exotic orchard
sultai charm (probably the best multicolor charm) and friends as needed
chromatic lantern
>>47835941
Between six and eight basics of each type.
>>47831928
I know that feel, a guy in my group used to do that
He wised up though
>>47825359
I don't see no Zirilan
Is Umbral Mantle worth running in a Voltron deck? Sort of as a deterrent against people swinging at you with a fatty
>>47828709
Had one of the sickest boosterboxes I've ever opened with EMA.
My haul:
> Jace, the Mind-Sculptor
> Mana crypt
> Karakas
> Vampiric Tutor
> Maze of Ith
> Sinkhole
> Shardless Agent
> Foil Enlightened Tutor
> Entomb
> Regal Force
> Foil Hymn to Tourach
Had a blast playing sealed aswell. Overall 10/10 experience with the set haha
Why are Esper commanders so boring?
>>47836631
Define "boring"
I find Ertai, Merieke, Sen Triplets and Sydri fun. Then again, it depends on what kind of strategies you want to play, and Esper is THE colour combination for control.
How do you guys like this as a tutor or removal? The mana cost seems kinda high to me, but I kinda want to get one and try it.
>>47837719
It's ok in like, Maelstrom Wanderer.
That's about it.
>>47837719
Makes most of my green decks. I'm a sucker for cards who can do multiple thing, and both of these effects are solid
>>47837719
It might be good in Yisan, but only if your 6 mana slot is already free. I don't play Yisan so I don't know what they tutor for at 6 other than Bane of Progress.
How is Disciple of the Vault + Phyrexian Metamorph + Sharuum the Hegemon an infinite combo? Can someone please explain?
Also, how to make a good Jhoira deck? I wanted to use her + Fling + Greater Gargodon for shenanigans but I feel like this may not work.
So I've done a few drafts of Eternal Masters and watched a few more from others and one deck I think is really sweet is the izzet Burning Vengeance deck. I figured there may be a way to build a commander deck around the concept of flashbacking spells, so I sketched a rough outline of what it might look like. The point is to cast a bunch of spells with flashback and retrace to trigger Burning Vengeance for board control and to the face, as well as whatever else there is in terms of spellslinging payoffs like Shu Yun, Jeskai Ascendancy, Talrand, Young Pyromancer, Monastery Mentor and so forth. What do y'all think and what else would work well in here?
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/saitamas-burning-vengeance/
>>47838052
>How is Disciple of the Vault + Phyrexian Metamorph + Sharuum the Hegemon an infinite combo? Can someone please explain?
Have Metamorph enter as a copy of Sharuum. Legend Rule goes into effect before the ability triggers and you sacrifice the real Sharuum. Then Metamorph Sharuum's ETB ability triggers and you return the real Sharuum. Legend Rule goes into effect and you sacrifice Metamorph. Then Sharuum's ETB ability triggers and you return Metamorph as a copy of Sharuum. You can repeat this process indefinitely. As you repeat it, each time either Sharuum or Metamorph dies, Disciple of the Vault will trigger, meaning that if you choose to repeat the process indefinitely you can put enough Disciple triggers on the stack to kill your opponents, provided they don't have hexproof or something.
>>47838052
>Also, how to make a good Jhoira deck? I wanted to use her + Fling + Greater Gargodon for shenanigans but I feel like this may not work
That's pretty novel, but it sounds kinda bad. You're probably just better off building Jhoira eldrazi.
Is this guy a descent commander? Or would he better in the 99? Trying to decide who will lead my red deck, either this guy or Godo
>>47838247
Go with Godo. Neither of them are that great, but Godo can at least fetch some good equipment and get you extra combat steps.
It's a shame there aren't better mono-red samurai for Godo to have fun with. As it is now the best mono-red samurai is Taurean Mauler.
>>47838362
Godo is spectacular you mong. Two combat steps and a ton of equipment being combat relevant makes him incredibly powerful. Easily one of the most consistent and deadly of red generals aside from Purphoros and Daretti.
>>47838388
I meant not that great compared to Purphoros, Daretti, Krenko, Feldon, and Norin. He's still one of the better mono-red commanders though, just not on the same level as those others.
>>47828709
>what the fuck, I'll buy one pack of EM just so I can say I did
>I really only want maze of ith, and maybe the new art of winter orb / ashnods alter
>reaching for the pack I want, shopkeep stops me
>"pull from the bottom, anon, it's been luckier there in this box"
>wut.jpg
>pull out the entire left column of boosters, pull out the dead bottom booster
>maze of ith
Shopkeepers have a sixth sense
>>47838174
>http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/saitamas-burning-vengeance/
>>47839077
Yeah it's in there
>>47838852
did you buy him a beer
>>47828709
Gamble, Toxic Deluge, Mystical tutor, and a foil winter Orb. I had bought 5 boosters so I think I did good
>>47839098
Whoops, must've missed it
>>47824408
>>47824341
Isn't budget Edric a thing?
>>47839451
I'm sure there is. Fatties and tiny unblockable guys don'y cost that much.
Here's what I want to know. What kinds of decks are these guys wanting to beat with their ludicrously cheap decks? If their playgroup is just as cheap, any deck with some cohesion should be enough.Also just noticed the correlation between these questions and summer 4chan
>>47829232
tfw even with ema crypt is still just out of reach
I could get it but man that'd be a lot of money gone for one thing. I still need to get Snap, Mind Scultpro, Vryn's Prodigy, force of Will, and Pact of Negation and I'll probably sooner get the last before anything. I wonder if it will gone done any more.
>>47838174
Seems like you have a few too many permanents and not as many spells as you'd like for what you're doing. Xut the Hondens, Wee Dragonauts, Noyan Dar, and Hidetsugu to throw in Turnabout, Mind's Desire, and some red rituals, imo.
>>47838247
As soon as I find one of these guys I'm gonna throw him into my Sek'Kuar deck as a glorious finisher.
>>47840220
Ouuhhh spicy. Storm in EDH, I like that idea! Never tried it before. Storm or any other kind of spellslinging strategy for that matter. Thanks for the tips. What are the best red rituals?
>>47840329
Seething Song. Mana Geyser can be good, but is very dependent on your group. Desperate/Pyretic are solid, but not too exciting. Since you have some token gen triggering off of spells already, Haze of Rage and Empty the Warrens also might be good. I don't remember if you had Frantic Search already, but it is amazing.
Just finished the first draft of my Doran deck and it has 34 creatures. I didn't really mean for it to be so lopsided in this way, but what else am I supposed to run in a green deck?
How ashamed should I be for making $30 EDH decksI plan on upgrading them later
>>47840752
Just buy a precon at that point. They're not horrible starting points. I thought the mono colored ones from 2014 were better than this year's but they're fine.
>>47840763I wanna make my own decks though
I heard the Maren one is pretty good, how true is that?
>>47840807
I don't recall the specifics of what's in them, but Meren is a strong commander, I think the strongest of the new ones.
>>47840807
The deck is very strong. I was play testing it fresh out the box and wound up with an army of 100/100s
>>47840606
34 isn't even that high for a creature themed deck, just above average
When you start approaching 42 you have an extreme distribution of card types
I'm building Gitrog right now, how can I make it fun and not too strong? My meta is pretty casual, but I really like the idea of playing with lands and the gy.
>>47840920
And I have built a deck of ~45 creatures and wanted to add more, but was unable to find spells to cut. Granted, that was Grenzo and I wanted to maximize the chances of him hitting when I used his ability blind.
so my EDH deck is kind of hardcore, probably around 1200-1500 dollars in the deck.
So I found out recently about a local shop that plays on tuesdays, One of my friends that plays there seemed to imply it was pretty casual.
The question I have is, am I going to seem like a dick for showing up with a deck that has some pretty good stuff, I've avoided game breaking combos, but there is very little jank in the deck.
>>47841167
If your deck's fair and fun to play against anyways, I say give it a whirl, just be prepared to maybe take it a little easy or start thinking on a softer deck.
I want to get into pucatrade but honestly very skeptical on people being trust worthy.
>>47833208
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-commander-tribal-elephants-81
>>47841319
I did the pucatrade meme. I would wait til you have around ~500 dollars in cards built up that you want rid of. Buy the gold, trade everything. Spend all your points and get out as soon as possible.
They put all of the trade options you want behind a paywall, I don't really think its something that you want to do long term, its more I have this big ass pile of value I need rid of and there are a few staples I need.
>>47841029
Casual land fall with some reanimation. I did the same thing with my frog to play with new players and try not to scare them off from edh. Bunch of death touch small fries.
Sad thing is gitrog alone can make even a casual deck with limited synergy play out decently with luck of the draw.
>>47841380
Gold, as in the gold membership, do not buy pucapoints.
>>47841380
Oh I didn't know there was more to it then sending off cards and getting points. Fuck that whole noise if there's any kind of money involved other than materials for shipping costs.
>>47841380
It can also a good place to flip foils you don't want, too. I never got much out of Puca but it did help me get rid of foil full arts I'd never use.
>>47841421
The reason why you do the gold membership is, it lets you limit the countries you trade with and you can set price caps for trades.
I got burned pretty bad on a trade from greece, near mint appearing cards, that smelled horribly of cigarettes. I never had a problem with trades from US and Canada, most people take pretty good care of how they ship cards.
If you have any questions about pucatrade, I'll answer what I can.
>>47828709
Bought just one pack on a whim last night. Fuck it, right? Sneak Attack and Price of Progress, which both can go into decks I use, so I call it a win
>>47841487
Lucky dog
I got balance as my mythic and nothing else
>>47841502
>I got balance as my mythic
#rekt
Remember you had the same odds of that as Force of Will or Mana Crypt
>>47828709
>Drafted it and won a single prize pack
>Toxic Deluge
>Ashnod's Altar
>Deathrite Shaman
>That's it
I've accepted it's a complete gamble, but I'd rather just pay for the singles at this point.
>>47841453
>canada
Be careful, there are three types of canadians out there:
>Normal, Reasonable Canadian
These people will keep their cards in pristine condition and generally sell at market value, with clear cut shipping conditions. FacetoFace comes to mind, they're reputable and awesome to get things from.
>French Canadians
Generally pretty good, but beware of their wrath. Hit or miss in general, they can either be awesome or awful, read seller reviews carefully.
>Vancouver Shitposters
The jewiest of the jews. Everything will be slightly under market value with outlandish shipping charges. Beware, there also exists a toronto sub-type that will do the same thing. The cards are generally in good condition, or clearly advertised not to be in good condition, but you may end up paying more than you thought you would.
>>47841557
Obligatory sorry for the issues.
>lgs hosts edh competitions once every week
>Decide to go with a precon
>Each player gets a standard legal booster just for joining
>Prize is a booster pack of Origins
>Play against three infinite combo players
>Other table has a modified Ezuri precon, an Odric weenie deck, a Krenko spam deck, and a Superfriends deck
>Other table is laughing when the Krenko player messes up her combo
>Meanwhile, "Damnation, Mikaeus, Seer, Triskelion, ping for two billion."
>>47829860
Ayyy, more SoCal! I'm down in San Clemente. Usually go up to Lake Forest for stuff, or my buddies up in Glendora/Azusa
>>47841421
You can send cards to people and recieve cards for free, if you want to receive foils you need to pay a sub, i was a gold member for 1 year traded all my standard jank for about 7 edh decks no issues except with the post office machine sorter eating a few cards, its safe to use i just block sending/recieving from south america, asia and other shit teir countries
Dont trade for cards that are in demand like staples because you will just sit there with points and nobody will send you anything unless you offer a "bounty" ie paying more points than its worth
>>47841557
shipping costs are incurred totally by the sender. and care value is set arbitrarily consistent across the site.
>>47841453
My buddy let me go through his box and stack up all his value cards. Bout $350 all together. He wants to go to a store and try to get cash but I told him he's highly unlikely to get even half the value in store credit let alone cash.
Not sure he'd even be into going through the hassle of packing a hundred different cards while dumping money into shipping materials.
I've got about s hundred bucks in extra shit from standard I'm thinking about doing puca but you raise another concern with having to deal with international shipping
>>47840920
Got any feedback for me? I know my manabase is shit, but I just wasted a ton of money on lands for my Reaper King deck, and I don't feel like blowing $50 more.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/16-06-16-doran-edh/
>>47841592
I never personally shipped outside of the US. I tended to only send cards in bulk or singles over 10 bucks.
I didn't want to be that guy when it came to shipping so I always shipped in a bubble wrap enveloped, sleeved card, in a slotta. I also tended to insure or get tracking on anything over 50+.
>>47841592
Look for people who want multiple cards, us postage is like $1.25 to anywhere so dont just send 10c commons to bumfuckistan find people who want at least $5-10 worth currently ive send over 186k points worth of shit locally and internationally and only once has something gone missing and puca still gave me my points back anyway
>>47841592
For me it was the only option, people at the lgs's didnt have the cards i wanted either did the stores and i didnt want to ebay them in he hopes i could find them for sale, puca was fairly painless i just picked up some bulk slips, card protectors, envelopes and probaly $50 in stamps and offloaded everything, was a shitload cheaper than just buying the singles from ebay
>>47833208
You simply put Panglacial wurm into it and draw cards while searching your library. Just be careful the universe dosen't break
LGS owner picked up a set foil Pepe today and wants to make him, so I've taken up the challenge of breaking the shit out of Pepe. Aside from the usual GB goodstuff, I've also happened upon a hilarious pseudo-infinite combo.
>Pepe + Skirge Familiar
>Dredge back Grave Troll
>Land hits the bin
>In response to the draw, discard Grave Troll to make B
>Dredge back Grave Troll
>Repeat until you hit Kozilek
>Then continue
You make infinite black mana so long as you hit a land every 6 cards, which is pretty likely when you're running 35 land. And then there's the other variation:
>Pepe + Lotleth Troll
>Dredge back Grave Troll
>Land hits the bin
>In response to the draw, discard Grave Troll to put a +1/+1 counter on Lotleth Troll
>Dredge back Grave Troll
>Repeat until you hit Kozilek
>Then continue
>When Lotleth Troll is big enough, stop the cycle by drawing
>Float mana and sac land to return Jarad to your hand
>Play him
>Sac Lotleth Troll and wipe the table
![IMG_0886[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/WVRYRAA.jpg "IMG_0886[1].jpg")
Not really a commander card, but I'm hoping you guys can at least steer me in the right direction. Bought one pack of EMA on a whim and got pic related. I feel like I just found a fucking Golden Ticket like from Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory. How do I go about selling a card as expensive as this without getting fucked over? Are there reputable websites for this where I actually get a good percentage of the card price? I've never bought or sold anything more expensive than a LotV so I'm kind of at a loss.
>>47842875
Trade it to someone for $80 worth of shit based on tcgplayer prices. I drafted and opened one and I sold it to someone before it was even over.
>>47842900
It's foil.
>>47842875
It's hard to sell cards and get market value, I would just keep it in a trade binder and hang around your LGS looking to trade. Pucatrade is an option if your into it but don't expect to be sent anything particularly desirable.
>>47842875
Are you looking to get full retail or sell it quickly?
SCG runs a buylist, but you'll probably only get ~50-60% of its value. If you haven't used Ebay before you can probably auction and get ~80% of its value, but its a pain.
