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Which female character from the Sixth World you like most and why?
>Which female character from the Sixth World you like most and why?
Netcat, cause she's a pretty cool gal: seh kills ICs and doesn't afraid of anything
Serious question though: I know that there are several urban sports that are born with the 6th World: Urban combat, etc. But what about traditional sports?
Is cyberware/magic forbidden in these sports? Are there leagues designed for trolls or are they allowed to compete with other metahuman? How have your favorite sport evolved?
You *do* need a license to be a mage, right?
>>47746256
depends on the sport, IIRC soccer is divided into a "pure" league and an augmented league.
>>47746294
you need a license to be a legal mage, yes. Depends on the country though. From what I read it varies between "no harm, no problem" and "you have to register, give a tissue sample and all kinds of shit to be allowed to use it at all"
Nice way to fuck up a SRG post OP. No title?
>>47746400
Not only that, the other general still has life in it.
>>47746400
>>47746458
A teaching moment for anyone looking to create a new thread.
>premature
>no title
>didn't change the BTL
6/10, better luck next time
>>47746294
In Seattle, a license for being Awakened, and a license for all your foci. Cheaper to get small foci and a biofiber pocket.
>>47746974
>he still posts my character picture I asked him to make for me.
I got a special feeling in my heart and my balls when I saw that.
Thank you anon for making my day.
>>47747008
Just a random anon who saved a drawfag's drawfaggotry.
>>47747040
I thought you were that guy since that was the same filename. My bad anonwe can still do the dirtiest hand holding with some novacoke though.
>>47747061
Just someone who made sure to keep the filenamesso I could pretend they were characters in a game I was running, and that I wasn't so alonehandholding would be nice
So is there any ficition or fluff about what happened to the amish or other traditionalists in the same vain.
Or are we just going with mega corps pulled legal shenanigans and built highways over there homes and made the wage slaves.
I mean they probably moved away from urban centers and found ways to deal with paracritters. Although they probably wouldn't like bieng forced off their god given land
Where is the rules on spirits and the matrix?
Could a spirit watch and enjoy a trid?
Could a spirit play games on a commlink?
Could a spirit pose as a young child on the matrix to lure men and women to their home?
>>47747603
Possession spirits can't use any technological/electronic function of a device they possess. Other than that, it's all fluff, but spirits don't like technology and don't mess around with it. Most of them don't like being summoned, tbhonest- they'd rather hang out on their metaplane, not play Chris Hanson for you.
>>47747651
So could oddball spirits DJ some radio waves or play MMOs?
>>47747682
Building off that, what would be better to summon to have grind your characters in a typical WoW like MMO?
Task spirits, because it's a task?
Man spirits, cause man?
Guardian spirits, cause combat?
>>47747682
It's not so much 'oddball' as it is 'unprecedented'. Even Buttercup the free spirit uses a proxy to do all her work with commlinks and other tech.
Theoretically there's nothing saying a spirit couldn't use a mixer if they stick to only mechanical interactions, but none of them would do it per fluff.
>>47746974
Fun fact, in older editions you needed a license for every spell, spirit and focus of Force 3+
>>47747148
>>47747040
>>47746974
Damn I wish I could draw like that.
>>47748035
I picked up a pencil and drew a gnoll recently, the first art I've made about a decade.
It's certainly something to realise that you missed your chance to turn something you did as a kid for fun into something worthwhile, and that any talent you once had has atrophied into nothing.
>>47748093
It's never late to learn new things.
>>47748420
Spoken like a young man.
Sure, I could learn to draw again. But it won't be fast, and it won't be easy, and there are many other things I ought to be doing and would rather be doing than relearning the basics of a skill long abandoned.
>>47745828
>Which female character from the Sixth World you like most and why?
Assuming we aren't allowed the vidya characters, I like /dev/grrl just to be contrary.
>>47747271
There's a small amount of fluff about the amish inrigger 4
>>47747682
Possibly, if they possessed some other asshole.
>>47745828
> Which female character from the Sixth World you like most and why?
Alice Haeffner I guess. Even though her gambit is like, cliche to the point of disgusting blandness, there's something authentic about that. Is she even still extant? Oh well.
>>47748673
She posted the intro to one of the books in the Seattle Sprawl Box.
>>47748093
That atrophy still looks pretty good to me. Better than I could do for sure.
>>47748420
Kind of agree with this anon, but I respect it if you don't want to spend time on it. There's no real age limit unless you have a stroke or something and your life could be really different next year.
>>47747651
Is there a technological cutoff? Could a spirit use an abacus, or would that freak them out too? Could you trick a spirit into using a machine, like "Here, stand on this rock" *rock acts as lever to lift bigger rock* "HAH! YOU JUST USED A MACHINE!"
Making an ally spirit. Choosing powers right now. Powers available to me: (Force 5, 4th edition)
Fear, Guard, Magical Guard, Movement, Animal Control, Concealment, Elemental Attack, Natural Weapondry, Psychikiinesis, Skill (Combat skill), Binding, Engulf, Noxious Breath, Search, Accident, Energy Aura, Weather Control
Skill (Combat Skill) (Guardian spirit) seems to be like a winner here, for at least one weapon.
Natural Weapondry seems like a good choice too.
Concealment doesn't seem wrong either.
What else would be good? Spirits available to me:
Earth
Fire
Air
Water
Guardian
>tfw 35 days into planning my campaign, I open 4E Vice and realize my view of gangs so far has been wrong and BBEG needs rethinking again
>>47749068
Gangs are notoriously fluid and chaotic, you could probably make it work more or less the same.
Can you post details, out of curiosity? Or do you have players who lurk here too?
>>47748937
Spirits can't call their buddies on a commlink, but they can definitely use an abacus. Whether they want to probably depends on the individual spirit, with a strong inclination towards no.
SPOILERS FOR SPLINTERED STATE:My group is at the climax of the Mitsuhama route, and we're low on resources with the dragon attacking our helicopter.How fucked are we, and is there anything with we can do?
Spirits can eat, right? I'm not dreaming this up?
I could have sworn that they can eat food as an offering or some such, but I can't find that anywhere now.
Give me reasons to hate Harlequin, chummers!You Can't
>>47749905
Burn edge.
>>47750306
And do what? I want to put basically everything I have into summoning a force 12 spirit, but I don't know if that's enough.
>>47750266
He's half dragon.
His sense of humor sucks.
He's fucking his adopted daughter, Woody Allen style, despite an approx 7000 year age difference.
He routinely subjects people to passive-aggressive mindfucks just because of his personal issues, with a triple emphasis on the aggressive.
He has daddy issues.
He has hipster fashion sense.
He has hipster taste in general.
He likes to post cryptic comments on message boards implying he knows everything about a given subject, but never actually posts real information.
He deals with dragons.
He figured out how and why Dunkelzahn died and the only being he told was Ryan Mercury, and that was just because he happened to fucking be there at the time. He didn't tell any of the dragons he deals with on a regular basis, so as far as they know there was never any risk of the world ending and their "bunker down" strategy remains sensible. Like, Dunk kept going "Guys. Guys. Guys. Guys. GUYS. THE HORRORS WILL USE TECHNOLOGY AGAINST US, WE CAN'T JUST HIDE IN OUR LAIRS" and all the other dragons were just like "naww", even though Dunkelzahn was known as the most far-sighted of dragons (literally called "far-scholar") and then Dunkelzahn had to fucking KILL HIMSELF to prevent the world from ending, and Cambruel was all like, *shrug*
Fuck that guy.
>>47750426
Mission Report, August 26 2057
>>47750385
Make a deal with a dragon, obviously
>>47750426
Ah, Caimbuel Har'Lea'Quinn... Contender for worst RPG NPC ever.
I asked in the other thread right before it died. Whoops.
Is the NeoNet Juggernaut the biggest walker drone I can get? Was there any bigger in 4e or 3e?
I'm not looking for too huge. I mean, a Juggernaut is "A full head taller than the average troll" and a troll is 9ft-10ft? Meaning a Juggernaut is 11ft tall?
>>47751123
Mass-prudeced, yes.
If yo a crazed trogga, there's always the "Secondary propulsion: Walker" mod and an APC.
>street samurai has a bunch of sick Norse tattoos, doesn't seem to trust Deckers very much, and is on the run from something
uh oh
>>47752741
> street samurai has a bunch of very Decker tattoos, doesn't seem to trust sick runners very much and is on the run from tattooers
uh oh
>Join a one shot with some buds
>Party consists of:
>Dan, all american pistol street sam. Loves America and freedom.
>Z, 1 logic berserker punch adept, him and Dan have a "Of Mice and Men" relationship
>Tanaka, a japanese wageslave face who is basically Rock from Black Lagoon
>Lea, a pixie rigger
>A pyromaniac rocker punk who has a flamethrower in her guitar
>And me playing Rushing River, who is essentially John Redcorn but with 4 robo-limbs. Almost got in a fistfight with Dan at their first meeting, but they bonded over mutual frustration of dealing with Z
>Session ends with the rockergirl accidentally blowing the arm off a loli catgirl htr member with an HE round while we pretended to be shadowrunners for a movie, which caused Z to go brrserk and Dan to turn on her as hurting women/children is against his code
I don't know what I expected but it was fucking hilarious.
>>47750459
>Mission Report, August 26 2057
He did me up the ass and then left without tipping. What a prick.
Or were you talking about something else?
>>47753146
Sounds like a nice trainwreck, yeah...
I am at an impasse.
A group of people I play games with had our Iron Kingdoms GM walk out on us due to conflict between him and two of our members, and after I mentioned I've always wanted to play Shadowrun we're doing a game of 5th edition. Nobody, the new GM included, has any experience playing Shadowrun. Outside myself and one other guy who played all the Shadowrun Returns games, nobody else has any knowledge of Shadowrun at all. I've payed attention in these threads and built characters before, and passed out Chummer 5 to everyone on the google drive; so far we have an elf cybersamurai gunslinger who knowing the player is going to be edgy as shit and have no skills at all beyond ones for killing things; the player who pays the least attention in games is playing an Oni pitfighter with decent-ish face skills and general athletic/survival skills with no augments, and the other guy who knows what Shadowrun is wants to play a max-edge rigger. He also talked about becoming an adept at some point.
I was originally thinking of playing a physical adept infiltrator, but I'm not sure if we're going to be fucked without a full-on mage or a full-on decker. Part of the problem is the GM has given us literally nothing on the kind of game he wants to run, so I have nothing that I can base an informed decision on.
Our first session is in two days.
>>47754155
Play the character you want to play. If worst comes to worst, magical and matrix support can be dealt with by contacts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0MxCynEi7o
>>47754155
If you don't know how your GM is going to do things, then just make some sort of magic guy. I know mine doesn't go out of his way to put in problems that certain specialists can only do such as pitting watcher spirits on an all mundane party, but he would have expected us to at least occasionally hire a mage to help on the astral front.
I'm gonna introduce a whole bunch of technomancer NPCs (it's a "tribe" living on some old boats where they sell information). What's a good way to roleplay technomancers without making them the kids in the kitchen from the first Matrix movie?
>>47754368
have them possess some ability to converse and keep their weirdness to themselves? how does Hitomi manage to keep her technomancerness to herself when at board meetings?
>>47754368
You know how people really into (thing) sound like they use a foreign language despite speaking english?
Like that. When they start babbling about -how- they do things, nobody that is not a TM understands what they're saying.
>>47754368
Also, I need to come up with an explanation for how a bunch of people living on some old boats outside of LA can get enough electricity to power all their tech. Is cold fusion a thing in Shadowrun that's common enough that they could have found or built a small fusion reactor, or should I give them a looted fission reactor instead?
>>47754379
The idea is that they chose to live in a collective for mutual protection and to get away from the megacorps and others who want to get their hands on technomancers. There are also a some normal hackers and a couple of dozen "normal humans" (I think they meant metahumans, because they don't seem like the kind of people who would be picky about race). And they've been out there for about a decade, so some kind of culture should have emerged by now.
>>47754389
That's a good place to start. I'm also imagining that some of them would be so used to talking with and through machines that they find it really awkward, slow and even difficult to actually talk with their meat bodies.
>>47754426
But how do they communicate with the rest of the world? Does one of those hackers go out and gets food or whatever else they might need for everyone else? Maybe he is the guy who is like a kind of interpreter.
>>47754436
Yeah, food would be a problem. From what little there is in the official books about them (a paragraph in Corporate Enclaves), the idea seems to be that they have a solid reputation in the LA shadows for being able to find absolutely any information you want, for a price. They're also notoriously paranoid (for good reason). I take this to mean that they trade for food either with money they earn from their services or as barter, but I'm also giving them some simple greenhouses (actual farming and fishing isn't an option, since the area is toxic). I also imagine that they do most of their communications with the outside world through the Matrix.
>>47754436
>>47754471
Drone delivery services are a thing. No real need for any of them to get out as long as they can order on the Matrix and pay.
>>47754484
Then its more than likely, unless one of those technomancers has some ability to communicate with non technomancers, that they'll be like those spoon kids in the matrix.
>>47754484
Yeah, they definitely would use drones to get them stuff they need. After all, machines are a lot easier to trust for a technomancer than flesh and blood couriers.
Plan 9 claims they have shark biodrones as guard animals, but take that with a big handful of salt.
>>47754506
Remember that there are a bunch of non-technomancers living there as well, though. I assume they mostly do the manual labor.
>>47754518
And as it seems, those deckers would also be so often out of meatspace, that they'd be pretty far out of it too.
Unless one of your party is a decker or technomancer, who can speak the lingo, I'd say scrap that plan.
>>47754529
But the weirdness of it all is the whole point why I want to include them. It gives my players something to overcome. It's called roleplaying, and it's fun.
And the PCs also have an advantage in a NPC ally who has had some previous experience with the technomancers.
>>47748928
You missed>>47747040
I didn't draw them, someone else did. I just saved them. Trust me, the gnoll was hideous.
>>47750020
Offerings of food are traditional in many traditions as a way to show respect for a spirit when you summon them. Whether they 'eat' it (i.e. put it in the mouth space of their current body, because they don't actually need to digest food) or simply destroy it like burnt offerings is unconfirmed.
>>47750020
I think offering of food is mostly just symbolic more than anything else. It's a thing in pretty much every culture I've ever heard of, both because it's a sacrifice ("You are so important that I'm giving up some of my precious, vital food that I worked hard for. Because you're worth it.") and a sign of good will and respect ("If I wanted to be nice to a human guest, I'd treat them to a nice dinner. You're a mystical entity that I can barely comprehend, but I still want to offer this nice dinner to show how much I respect you". Even if they don't eat, I think most spirits still understand and appreciate the gesture.
>>47754395
The waters are radioactive, and there's a bunch of the city that collapsed into the sea during the repeated earthquakes.
Have the boats sail around between several jury-rigged power stations, connected to wave generators and forgotten power lines still being fed by the city. The technomancers use their skills to feel out where these conduits are and to build machinery that raises and lowers the outlet (for lack of a better word). These places also serve as Matrix nodes that connect them to the mainland.
They can't take too much from any one place for long, but if they keep them in good repair they can keep going forever.
>>47754673
...that's way cooler than what I had in mind. And wireless energy transfer is a thing in Shadowrun, right?
>>47754701
Transfer through induction is a thing, yes.
Chummer 5.181 has been released. Changelog's too big to post here, so check it out at https://github.com/chummer5a/chummer5a/releases/latest.
>>47754712
Also gives them another reason for why they live on boats. The official fluff seems to imply that they're pretty much stationary outside of Lagoona Beach, but then they might as well just had settled in the abandoned villas on land or something.
>>47754732
>puts period at the end of URL
You know better than that, Yekka.but it looks spiffy. Thanks
>>47754757
In my defence, Chrome handles that shit fine.
I need to come up with some Matrix avatars, as well as designs for hubs.
What are some colorful/weird icons and avatars your deckers have run into or used? Currently have a party wizard who leaves a trail of rainbow neon puke as marks.
>>47754787
*hosts
>>47754787
For avatars
>a classic Man With No Name getup, leaving stylized bullet holes as marks and with a posse as sprites (guy with a bowler hat and double-barrel as a crack sprite, old panner as a machine sprite, etc)
>Using a jungle themed reality filter, the decker was a huge tiger
>Fred Astaire. He danced around in the hosts, leaving boutonnières as marks
For hosts
>A bunch of floating islands in a tech firm. Each island was a different project, and people flew between them
>A ring world cyberclub, where you'd go around the ring to different zones depending on whether you wanted to hang out, dance, play Miracle Shooter on the custom mapstalk to the Seoulpa
>Ares Kids Klub, a host designed for the children of Ares employees. A combination between the greatest playground ever and an amusement park, with huge slides that wind around roller coaster tracks and sandboxes in Ferris Wheels. You earn Ares Funbucks for completing activities like playing certain learning-based games, competing in design contests, or assembling the most toys from a set of parts, and you can spend your Funbucks on cool avatar designs (everyone in the host looks like children, except for the mods, but you can get sweet patches on your jeans or light-up shoes that let you run really fast), sim-candy, physical copies of your designs printed and sent to your home for Mom and Dad to admire, etc. It's the next step up from plopping the kids in front of after-school TV, they get fun playtime and Ares gets to teach them work skills and indoctrinate them into Ares Culture (Uncle Sam the Bald Eagle flies around the park, and if you can catch up and answer his questions about Ares history, you get special bonus Funbucks).
>>47754776
Firefox too.
>>47754518
Some of them could be shamans trying to do some type of hydroponic farming or something maybe. Makes the commune more self sufficient.
>>47755208
You don't need to be magic to farm.
>>47755221
That's true. I just perceive shamans as being granola as fuck and I shouldn't.
>>47755258
I mean, most them are, so that assumption is not wrong. It's just unnecessary to have magic farmers on this techno-boat utopia, when regular plebs can do the job just fine.
So, who is your LEAST favourite JackPoint member, srg?
Personally I can't decide between Frosty and Clockwork
>>47756484
Where to start... The problem is that some are the writers' self-insert and I don't know if I dislike the character as a shadowrunner; or just the writer's work.
>>47756549
Well, simply say which is the most disliked as a character and which as a shadowrunner
>>47756484
At least Clockwork adds something useful to the conversation, whether information or a different viewpoint. Frosty is a bad joke that has gone on too long.
Personally, I really dislike Man of Many Names. Occasionally he'll say something that's actually useful (when there's a section to be written), but his comments are entirely vaguely foreboding fortune cookie shit. I know blood magic is bad, Elminster, give me something that I can use, as a GM or player, or stop chewing up pagecount. I don't care that you're Sorcerer Supreme and hang out with all the cool spirits, it doesn't do dick for my story about professional criminals in a pseudo-fantasy cyberpunk dystopia.
>>47756484
I don't even pay attention to them honestly. It's better this way.
>>47756484
They're all a bunch of obnoxious, sanctimonious hypocrites but I despise Frosty most of all. Though Kat-o-Nine-Tails seems to be drinking from the SJW Kool-Aid lately.
>>47756484
I think I have to agree with Frosty being worst.
>>47757128
>someone isn't an asshole
>this is clearly a cult
So 'Cyber-Implant' is a specialization under Automatics, but not any of the other gun skills.
So do all cyber-implant guns use Automatics, or did they just forget to add it as a specialization for other guns?and I always thought they were Exotic Ranged Weapons, but I guess that's wrong
>>47757128
>>47757988
Don't start that.
>>47758157
Maybe it's just suggestions so they wrote it on the first one and figured that people would be able to get that you can use it on the other ones as well?
>>47758157
I'm on a new PC and missing all my PDFs, but aren't specializations just examples in 5e, not exhaustive lists of all possible choices?
So thinking about making a Nazi cyborg character.
He would be the result of crazy Nazi supersoldier tech that has survived well past his expiration date and into the year 2075.
He would use all omegaware to represent the archaic cyber and have difficulty adapting to modern tech.
The questions are however:
>How do I build a cyberninja-like character while refusing the more modern upgrades like reaction boosters?
>What negative qualities would be better for the GM to work with given his extremely long life?
>Is this just too retarded for your average Black Mohawk campaign?
>>47758216
>>47758198
I know that the Specializations are not exhaustive (though they find space to differentiate between 'extended-range shot' and 'long-range shot') but it's strange. It's the only place in the book that I can find that even hints at what skill is supposed to be used with cyber-guns.
Saying 'cyber-implant is a possibility for all weapon skills' is something that makes sense, but sense has no bearing on how CGL does rules.
>>47758301
Unarmed Combat and any skill that uses a gun can specialize in cyber implant weapons.
>>47758291
Have you tried not being an edgelord?
>>47758291
>How do I build a cyberninja-like character while refusing the more modern upgrades like reaction boosters?
Drugs and a nephretic screen.
>What negative qualities would be better for the GM to work with given his extremely long life?
Uneducated; not because he really is, but he's just not up to date.
Computer Illiterate; see above.
Flashbacks, because he tends to remember the good old days and lose contact with reality.
the "My Country: Right or Wrong" code from Assassin's Primer to represent his fanatical devotion to nazi Germany.
>>Is this just too retarded for your average Black Mohawk campaign?
Maybe. Mostly depends on your players.
>>47758291
>>How do I build a cyberninja-like character while refusing the more modern upgrades like reaction boosters?
Wired reflexes are old and have horrible side effects, take those instead.
>>47758537
What, would you not run with the red skull? This is literally a game about playing violent terrorists for hire.
>>47758468
That's what I'm going with, until the GM says otherwise.
Also, unexpected thing in Chummer- got a skilljack, started buying knowsofts and linguasofts, and found out that it was taking the ratings of those chips out of the pile of free Knowledge skill points. While it says it's buying it with Karma, my actual karma remaining is not going down, and I'm not aware of any other rule that says that 'softs have to paid for twice (with nuyen and karma; in fact, I thought paying with nuyen alone was the whole point)
>>47758617
Not even the goddamn Joker would run with the Red Skull. What on earth makes you think a bunch of professionals would?
>>47758617
The runners can also be non-violent. Sneaking in and out without being seen is probably the optimal result for most missions.
And of course there are non-lethal options as well. It can cause complications but if you do it well it also means that the bounty on the team is smaller.
And seeing as most of the missions are different types of theft and espionage (with kill missions being specially mentioned as bad jobs that offer less karma) it's not that the runners are always terrorists.
>>47758617
>Wired reflexes are old and have horrible side effects, take those instead
I think you mean 'move by wire'. That's the oldest system for enhancing reflexes out there, and is the one that basically puts you into a permanent seizure.
>>47758659
>runners
>professional
>>47758716
Yeah, that's what I meant.
Also, was there a shadowrun tcg or something?
>>47758759
Yes, runners are professionals. They do what they do as a profession. And psychopaths don't last long because employers won't trust them to not cause an unnecessary mess and fellow 'runners won't trust a psycho because they could either disrupt the mission and cost them their rep and payday, or outright betray the crew.
>>47758537
Our game is pretty crazy as it is, and besides, nothing says he HAS to be a jew-hunting murderbot SS officer, just like how Captain America doesn't adhere 100% to Roosevelt or Truman's ideals, he is just fiercely loyal to the ideals of his country.
>>47758617
Yeah, I was thinking wired reflexes, the issue with that is the essence loss doesn't leave me with much more to play with.
>>47758582
Hmm, good ideas. I was also toying with incomplete deprogramming or even Borrowed Time.
>>47758834
derp, meant Move by wire like >>47758716 mentioned.
>>47758834
>the essence loss doesn't leave me with much more to play with
You want to have superNaziscience jump 70+ years ahead of the supercyberscience of Shadowrun, which is already implausible. Take what you can get.
>>47758816
And here we have another pink mohawk black trenchcoat fight.
>>47758834
Take MBW at as high of a grade as possible. Take restricted gear if you have to. If you try, you can get the essence cost down to 3 or so.
>>47758894
>And here we have another pink mohawk black trenchcoat fight.
Yeah. There are a lot of ways to play this game. Personally I prefer Black-trenchcoat style more but I'm not gonna break into someone's house and smash his knees with a hammer if he is running a pink mohawk game with fox-girls and whatnot.
I live in Lynnwood. Looking up Shadowrun stuff, nothing interesting happens here. We get so overshadowed by Everett.
>>47758894
That should be enough, especially so with omega-grade limbs.
>>47758891
Yeah of course, But I would much rather get as much absurd tech as I can than use it all on Move-by-wire, especially since I could use drugs to increase my initiative as well.
>>47758987
Like I said, my group is Black Mohawk right now, crazy as all fuck, but capable of effective stealth and talking out way out of things.
>>47759020
>limbs
Not worth it. What you want is the stuff that raises your base str and agi scores.
Also, drugs stack absurdly well with MBW, cuz most of those add dice, whereas MBW just raises your score by a flat amount.
>>47758712
>(with kill missions being specially mentioned as bad jobs that offer less karma)
More nuyen. It's the cold hearted bastard / feel good hooder sliding scale of run rewards.
>>47758716
The perma-chem init booster is the one I'd pick as old school. The other stuff can be upgraded.
>>47749115
Nothing worth posting yet. Gotta read up on stuff.
>>47756484
Kane?
Another Chummer cybergun post.
>The Custom Shotgun has a rating of 12R and a Test time period, though none of the other guns have anything in those categories. Mistake in Chummer?
Also, I wouldn't mind some help interpreting this passage
> ...a vast array of firearms became available in cybergun variants. Each uses their own statline as normal—for example, an Ares Predator V uses Ares Predator V stats, not “Implant Heavy Pistol” stats, though it uses the same Essence and Capacity as a normal cybergun of that type. In the case of an Ares Predator V, that would be 0.5 Essence/[6] Capacity, as a normal Implant Heavy Pistol. Modification of a normal gun into a cyber-implant version costs are shown on the following chart, while Availability is increased by 4.
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Does that mean that the basic cybergun Availability increases by 4 (meaning they now all range between 12R and 24F, most of them over 12), or that the Availability of the gun being modified increases by 4 (in the case of a Predator, from 5R to 9R), while the cybergun implant Availability remains the same?
It's the difference between being able to have a custom cybergun at chargen or having to use the basic model.
>>47760232
Kane isn't that bad. I can get behind a successful pirate doing pirate things, so long as /dev/grrl is nowhere to be seen. It varies up Jackpoint a bit to have people other than stereotypical shadowrunners there.
>>47760232
>Kane
You're pretty loyal for a hired runner.
>>47756484
They're all so bland that I don't really care either way about them.
Except that doc-wagon program that makes you stick your hand in a blender then turns it on, traps your hand, and then calls docwagon on you.
Fuck whoever wrote that program
>>47760958
No clue, but the gun being implanted getting the +4 to Availability seems to be a good bet..
>>47761004
The hell? What's that in? I don't remember that and I think I would've remembered reading such a hilariously brutal part
>>47761076
Attitude (4e), I believe
>>47761026
I'm thinking that's probably what they did, because it's unlikely they'd put in something that would make it very difficult to get a custom cybergun at chargen, and most people aren't going to want to go back under the knife in-game for a slight improvement of their gun.
>>47760958
The availability of the gun you want to implant goes up, so the Predator V goes from 5 to 9. This is mostly so people don't put anything to strong in their arms at char gen, I imagine.
The cybergun implant stays the same.
>>47761076
>>47761102
Correct.
>>47761318
I'm not sure I'm reading this correctly. Is this the debrief for a mission from the BBS, or is it some kind of virus you specifically contract in the Shadowland?
>>47760990
Or perhaps he's wondering why someone would shoot a man before throwing him off of Jackpoint.
>>47761606
It's supposed to be a training program for newbies to get into all the necessary stuff. Till the end you think that someone real is instructing you.
>>47761632
If I pulled that cyber off, would he die?
>>47761915
Hilarious, yet illustrative of the fucked up world a Shadowrunner faces.
>>47756484
I'd say probably /dev/grrl in my opinion.
She reads so much like that one guy in your group who you can't quite put a reason as to why, but you'd love nothing more than to throttle him every time he opens his mouth.
The german writers at Pegasus are currently working on a box for total pnp newbies. It won't add anything to the game and shouldn't be seen as a supplement for the game because the rules are watered down quite a lot for the sake of accessability. It'll feature a small campaign, with 3 adventures that start out rather combat focused (with grids and markers for tactical play) and proceed to shift the focus towards the roleplay.
Don't know if they're going to translate it though, just wanted to let you guys know.
Oh, and they're currently looking for someone to translate the French part of the SOX campaign into German. If any fans are interested they are welcome to visit the forum
>>47762050
>>47760958
I've never really understood the hate for /dev/grrl. Is a standard model hacker prodigy somehow too mary sue?
>>47761940
It would be extremely painful...
If I want to make the AI Quality "Exceptional Entity" work right in chummer, I have to go in and edit the character .chum5 manually I assume?
Adding the trait didn't do anything to my stats
Question about spirits that came up during our last game:
I know you can only have one unbound spirit active at a time, but what about BOUND spirits?
Say I have five force 6 spirits bound, can I just seriously ruin someone's day and send them all out into a fight at the same time?
One guy in our group argues that you can only ever command one spirit at a time, bound or unbound, while the other says that since he payed money (in summoning components) and possible drain damage, he should be allowed to use services of all his spirits without limitations.
Which one is it? 4th ed, if that makes any difference.
>>47762552
>Say I have five force 6 spirits bound, can I just seriously ruin someone's day and send them all out into a fight at the same time?
Not sure about 4e, but in 5e you can totally do this.
>>47762639
You can in 4, too. Spirit summoners are considered pretty broken if the GM doesn't keep them in check by limiting binding materials.
>>47762050
>you can't quite put a reason as to why
When it's something like that, it's time to take a good honest look at yourself instead.
>>47762124
Hacker prodigies are fine, too. It's the rest of it that annoys people.
>>47758625
Well that's odd. Sorry, I'll take a look at it when I get an opportunity. Just to confirm, that's the new build?
>>47762450
Motherfuck, I knew that'd been set up wrong. Um. Changing the bonus to this should work, I think. http://pastebin.com/J1fX7720
Hey, yekka, for whatever reason rotodrones don't get the bonus to body for the purposes of mounting weapons they're supposed to in Chummer.
>>47763499 On a related note, the standard weapon mounts won't let me mount sniper rifles.
Hey, yekka. How do I get a swim speed to show up in chummer? I have bioware that should modify my swim speed, but it's still at 0. It's not even listing the base speed of the average of my STR and AGI.
>>47763733
The code on that is a nightmare, I need to gut it and start from scratch. It's all based on a nebulous 'movement' stat that's an amalgam of the walk/run/sprint stats. It's been on my to-do list for a while as part of https://github.com/chummer5a/chummer5a/issues/580, but my workload's all over the place at the moment.
>>47763691
That's because you need to mount it on a heavy weapons mount.
>>47763499
Was replaced in R5 with three extra mod slots, I believe.
>>47763894
>That's because you need to mount it on a heavy weapons mount.
Except you don't.
>that was replaced with 3 extra mod slots
which also don't show. Weapon mod slots are 4, equal to body.
>>47763486
Yeah, using 5.181.0, and it's not in the nightly changelogs for the quick work you just put out.
>>47762124
I've always figured it's because she so frequently serves as the clueless reader-proxy character that needs fairly common knowledge explained to them, and in doing so tends to come off as horribly ignorant and self-absorbed for some whose whole fucking job is the accessing and gathering of information.
>>47763894
Just wanted to point you at >>47760958
>>The Custom Shotgun has a rating of 12R and a Test time period, though none of the other guns have anything in those categories. Mistake in Chummer?
>>47762124
If it was just 'kid is really good at hacking, but is young and doesn't understand shadowrunning,' that's fine.
But 'kid is not only an expert decker, but is also able to track down Kane and physically surprise him during a poker game despite the numerous government agencies and private outfits failing to do the same, and instead of wasting her like the merciless pirate he is Kane takes her in and decides to teach her... something,' is a bit hard to stomach.
>>47764071
So poker does still exist in shadowrun. What variant was he playing, Texas Hold 'em? Also, how is poker depicted in shadowrun? Do the writers have any clue how the game actually works?
>>47764071
I kind of wish the idea of having Fastjack as her mentor figure had lasted for more than one supplement book. That relationship had a lot more charm and made a shit-ton more sense.
>>47764169
Don't think it was covered, really. Just that she showed up during a card game and caught Kane in a net or something retarded like that (basically she had the most infamous pirate in the world at her mercy before she got deep into puberty, and did it so that FastJack-Senpai would take her seriously).
>>47764221
It would have maybe made sense, and explained why they haven't banned her for knowing very little and having basically no rep as a shadowrunner, when JackPoint is supposed to be the most elite runners in the world.
>>47764071
Rich kid runner had some potential, but I am bias in that I want a Carlton Banks type of character for said type of runner.
>>47764307
I presume she's kept around because of nepotism. If fastjack and kane both like you, you're probably going to find your way onto jackpoint even if you aren't also a good decker.
>>47763956
Well, cock. I'll have to look at it tonight, no time at the moment.
>>47764071
Seems correct in the table, but I'll take a look at it when I get a chance. Probably the other guns are broken somehow.
>>47764307
>caught Kane in a net or something retarded like that
Walked up behind him and pointed a heavy pistol at his head, and only managed to not get turned in to a greasy red stain due to Kane finding the image of some seventyfive-pound elven schoolgirl trying to act like a badass killer to be absolutely hilarious.
Quick chummer5 question; how do you initiate? I can't find in the program where you can do that.
>>47764388
I thought it was an Ares Alpha, not a pistol.
>>47763499
>>47763691
>>47763894
>>47763956
>>47764370
>>47764314
I did not realise how badly I wanted this until now.
>>47764409
Did you set the initiate at chargen optional rule/are you in career mode?
>>47764307
The possibility of poker in the sixth world fascinates me. Skillsofts, magick, theory and common strategy that's advanced by 60 years. I bet skillsoft use would be trivially counterable because it would tend towards predictability, but then that allows anyone with cyber to pull a level by feigning that style then switching gears at an opportune time. How do you tell a magician from a luckbox though? Casinos would have to monitor every player for long-run performance to look for odds discrepancies. Poker is already a loss-leader now for them, with slots pulling in pretty much all their money, the amount of extra overhead that would be needed to keep the game honest would be absurd. And that's not even getting into where to draw the line with magick; could a dragon shaman call on their mentor spirit to boost their charisma during heads up play? That doesn't seem like cheating to me, just pushing an edge.
So either poker is a giant unregulated unplayable clusterfuck for all but certain awakened, casinos are investing an unreasonable amount of resources into keeping the game going (possibly for its television ratings?), or poker has only survived in house games.
And I mean, Texas Hold 'em is pretty much analyzed to death, so imagine what a game like PLO Hi/Lo must be like to play. It would literally be a dragon detecting machine, just look for the player actually winning.
>>47756484
/dev/grrl.
>>47764449
Ah, missed that one. Thanks!
>>47764444
That's for drone mounts, we're talking vehicle mounts.
(And also drones using the vehicle rules if you want cuz the drone rules are optional.)
>>47764370
That gives the rules for the basic shotgun, which seems to be working fine in chummer (bottom pic).
The thing I'm talking about is the custom shotgun- the rest of the custom guns don't give availability ratings, only the shotgun. Given the ambiguous wording for how availability works for those weapons (>>47760958) I don't know if it had something to do with how Chummer was trying to work everything out.
>>47764530
Probably just something janky. I'll add it to the list of shit to look at tonight.
As someone who is completely new to Shadowrun, where can I find the explaintion for attributes in the fifth edition?
I found the explanation for skills, what's average what's steller but attributes nowhere.
>>47764478
>Casinos would have to monitor every player for long-run performance to look for odds discrepancies.
So basically taking the "contrails" methodology of detecting unknown performance enhancing drugs in sports and applying that to poker? Yeah, clusterfuck doesn't even begin to describe how that would turn out.
>>47764566
which edition chummer?
>>47764671
5th.
I just want to know what's good in terms of numbers.
>>47763733
>>47763894
related. The "Hand and foot webbing" bioware, for every matched pair installed, increases your swimming movement multiplier by 1. (so +2 for 4 limbs". But where does swimming movement ever have a multiplier? my copy of the core puts it at average of STR and AGI, nothing else.
>>47764692
Whatcha running as?
First starting out, 12 skill total is going to be what you want your focus to be in. That's going to be 6 stat and 6 ranks, or 5/5 with a specialization.
>>47764538
Thanks. Not to add to your workload, but is the ability to actually pick the custom weapons working correctly? I can add a 'custom shotgun' to the arm, but I can't actually pick said custom gun (can't add gear, and trying to add a plugin only gives options for cyberware', and there's no stats that appear under the Weapons tab of the Street Gear, as the regular cybershotgun does.
>>47764734
Probably a cybersammy for ease of use.
I got chummer on my laptop and the books and I'm going to show it to the guy who has actually played before but I want to get started.
>>47764736
>>47764730
Here, you're both missing one.
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>>47764765
Sammy you can get away with lower stats cause you'll get ware to replace it.
What are you using to build your character? Priority? Karma? Sum to 10?
>>47764845
Priority.
>>47764845
And your race?
I'd say Nuyen > Skills > Stats > Race > Magic, moving race where you need it to be if you're planning on a troll or an orc
>>47764881
>skills above attributes
>>47764881
Probably Orc. It seems like the go to for murderhappy sammies in stuff I've seen and it leads into some nice backstories I can work with.
>>47764900
You got racial maxes anyways, and you can just throw nuyen at raising your shit.
>>47764991
Without a solid base, you're just pouring money into a hole. Easier to get a few solid skills and branch out from there in-game, than it is to boost all your shit attributes.
>>47747756
A sprite
>>47765136
Not a technomancer chummer
>>47765145
The point anon was making is that playing WoW is a job for sprites, not spirits.
>>47763486
I'm trying to make a mage, and whenever I try, Chummer crashes. Am I missing something?
>>47766275
Update to the latest nightly, the release version had some bugs that weren't caught by the automated testing.
When I asked my DM how he wanted his mage NPC to look, the only tips I got were "Gay Mexican Catholic Mage fighting against Aztlan Oprression Against his Religion," and "You always shoot mages first, draw the one you would shoot first." So here I go.
>>47767136
In contrast, here's my ex-corp elf decker. He's a huge pussy and likes exploitative troll porn because he wants big trogs to beat him up.
>>47767136
9,5/10. Need some very obvious glowing mystic tattoos to scream "Mage!" 200%.
Pretty good drawing otherwise, your DM is a lucky DM.
>>47767158
>That tiny ass cup
I'm dying
>>47767166
He's S-K ex-corporate trash from London and drinks with his pinky out.
Everyone in Aztlan is laughing at how much of a nerd loser he is. San Diego is tough runnin's.
>>47767160
>very obvious glowing mystic tattoos to scream "Mage!" 200%.
Or just someone that likes glow tats...
>>47767202
ie. wizards
>>47767216
Tattooed people. Who predominantly include mundanes.
>>47767223
That wish they were wizards.
>>47767239
Everyone wishes they were mages, chummer. Unfortunately, not everyone can be as awesome as me
>>47767136
I got one more, my DM's cybered up troll street samurai. And I've got a big fat crush on her. But she's got too much chrome to reciprocate my feelings :,Cposted her in the last thread at like 4 am I'm not sure if anyone is around to see
>>47767223
Nope, glowing tattoos are mages-only. It's in the rules.
>>47767262
There's a LED cyberware version for mundanes that want to pretend they're mages/shamans.
But yeah, tattoos that glow when the magic-user calls on their power are something of a dead giveaway.
>>47767260
>all those spikes
how do you even bring her anywhere?
>>47767303
Helleb0re asks her to be very careful and winces when she leaves troll-shaped holes in doorways
>>47767321
Hey, at least the door is open now!
>>47767262
>>47767276
Cyber tats, nano tats, bio tats, even gene tats if you want to take a negative quality for it.
>>47746256
there's a full section on sports and cyberware in the core rulebook, somewhere in the fluffy bits at the beggining
What is your favorite spell?
Mine is Turn to Goo, so versatile and so useful.
>>47767429
Clarivoyance
Mana window
>>47762335
He's a big guy
>>47756484
All those special snowflake selfinsert Gary/Mary Stus.
At least Clockwork is somehow interesting.
>>47756484
It's hard for me to dislike Clockwork, because 1) he's the officially designated asshole, so it's hard for me to actually be mad at him and 2) I really believe Shadowrun should dial down some on technomancer/ AI shit (as well as magic, but it's kinda besides the point). Kane is also a sphincter puncturer, but he must be there (as well as Rigger X) to remind players how it's not all candy and roses in running biz.
Slamm0 is an annoying manchild, so I'm probably gonna vote for him, even if only because he's so prolific.Also, for some reason I believe that there's going to be some kind of "CLOCKWORK WAS RIGHT" reveal at the end of 5e.
Quick question; if you're a mystic adept, do you need a mage license, an adept license, or both?
>>47768864
I'd say you need a "Mystic Adept" license. The time where they were misunderstood misfits is over, now they're just "those weird adepts that also can cast a couple of spells".
>>47768864
You need a license for whatever you're going to use/be assensed for that would require a license. Keep it under wraps when you're broadcasting that SIN, and you don't need any of it.
>>47767429
Ice Sheet. I have so much fun with it.
This is my first time building a mystic adept, so I have no idea how viable this character is.
Have I fucked up, and if so how badly?
>>47769372
At first sight:
- Way too much direct damage spells
- No gun; enjoy becoming the priority target in 99,99% of the cases.
First thing you do is get some points in automatics and buy a machinepistol you keep in a holster/in your hands to stop screaming "MAGE!" to even the dumbest ganger around.
Get rid of Knockout, you really don't want to be in melee; pick your poison between Ice Lance and Flamethrower and drop the other.
>>47768531
>Also, for some reason I believe that there's going to be some kind of "CLOCKWORK WAS RIGHT" reveal at the end of 5e.
Well, he got one at the end of 4e with the 'FastJack is a headcase' thing. Maybe this time it will be 'technomancers cause Crash 3.0, everyone finally agrees that they are monsters.'
>>47769488
"Time to purge the Unclean", 2076 remix?
>>47758834
Couldn't you just have him be a pet project of a megacorps who have attempted to "update" him? Like say a high level exec is into collecting Nazi memorabilia and took a personal interest in him. Would give you some room to make a sympathetic character too with the "mutilated by my countrymen, then by the men who found me" angle.
>>47769480
I took knockout because I have a decent compliment of infiltrator/face skills to hit people unaware, and figure since its drain is F-6 you can use a lot higher force to make sure the guy goes down in one hit without risking a lot of damage in return.
That not a good enough reason to have it?
>>47769581
Not really. You can take high enough Force without risk, sure. But you'll still need a fuckload of (net) hits, enough to fill the target's stun track, on your test (14 dice vs. target's WIL) to make the guy go down in one hit. Considering "Average Joe" with WIL 3 has 10 stun boxes, you'll need one hell of a good roll...
If you want a "Surprise Motherfucker!" one-shot spell, it's Punch and not Knockout you need. That one deals Force + hits on spellcasting test. The guy gets no defence roll if he's surprised (hooray!) and you can go completely all-out at Force 12 (your max of MAG*2). You hit the loser on average with 16-17S and -12AP, because it's magic and fuck your armor, trogga! You'll have to resist a drain of 6, which probably won't leave you unscathed either, but your target will be down!
>>47745828
I'd go with Kane
> Pirate
> Gun Nut
> Has a daughteru
> Rich.
He's living the dream
>>47769732post yfw /dev/grrl is getting raped and murdered in Cuba as we speak
>>47769683
Ah. Point taken; I'll be swapping out Knockout for Punch then.
>>47767429
In howling shadows a Voodoo witch kidnapped Devvie because Kane dumped her daughter, so pretty possible.
Who or What exactly is SEARCH ?
When is it appropriate for a runner to kidnap their family that they have been estranged from, and also believe that you are dead for a while to make sure they don't get caught in any potential crossfire?
>>47769807
Meant for >>47769767
>>47769823
When you do a run against the Azzies
>>47769767
is this real? is she at least kept alive long enough to shit out a rape baby?
>>47769854
What about if Knight Errant is after you for going AWOL from a blacksite and what if said family member is a high ranking exec in AresSpace?
>>47769807
>>47769824
... Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Did you think I pulled Cuba out of my ass, anon.
>>47769865
Yes it is. Metafiction stories that have no bearing on the books they're included in (for instance, the story in Howling Shadows had no animals), but basically some mage skanks tricked /dev/grrl into going to Cuba, then kidnapped and tortured her a bit. Last scene was an escape attempt.
>>47769901
Maybe I should actually read those stories, however our group doesn't ever include any of those prime runners, or even Opti for that matter, and the only people who are major in the fluff who are mentioned at all are people like Damien Knight, Art Vogel, etc.
>>47769782
Other things you might want to consider (on top of getting a gun. Seriously, just buy one and tote it around even if you cannot use it.):
- Drop one rank of Voice Control for Combat Sense. Your Social Limit is ginormous already, especially with your gear. Combat Sense gives you a chance not to be taken by surprise and react whenever SHTF. Quite useful for an Infiltrator.
- Get the Armor Spell. By RAW, Zoe and Mortimer don't stack, so you only have 14 armor. Not bad, but a good hit from an AR, a shotgun using slugs or a hunting rifle will make you take physical damage. An armor spell boosting it to 18-20 would make sure you only take stun in situations where the opposition has more than handguns available. (Unless you dance in front of an assault cannon or eat a rocket, but okay...)
- If you decide to put some points into a gun skill, consider getting a Chi Focus with Attribute Boost (AGI) rank 1 for a cheap boost whenever you try to hit something.
>>47769901
> Yfw Kane steals an Ares destroyer with orky levels of guns strapped into it to save the daughteru
>>47769929
Wait, they don't stack? The Argentum coat has the Custom Fit (Stack) property, which I thought was specifically to allow it to stack +4 armor onto another piece of armor with the Custom Fit property, so long as you're the person both pieces of armor are custom fit for.
>>47769971
Custom fit stacks only from items of the same designer
>>47769924
Most of the stories are not great (though I do have to give a shoutout to the guy who did the orc Bogart story in Emerald Shadows or Ruling The Queen City) but that one stuck with me for being so out of place.
Usually they try to match the story with whatever the book is about, and usually they don't even have the JackPointers in them (it's some random people who can be killed off). This one reads like they started in Hard Targets in the Cuba section, but couldn't finish in time, and now they're serializing it wherever they can fit it in.
>>47769971
Same maker only, by RAW. Check with your GM, this is typically a point they're willing to be lax upon.
But even if they do stack, you have another issue. With only 3 in strength, you'd suffer a -1 to AGI and REA because you're overburdened with your +6 to base armor.
>>47770002
It fits with Howling Shadows because dev's escape is being helped by a strange metaplanar being, which are described in HS.
Reminder there are actual spirits of shadowrunning now.
>>47769993
Oh, that is some rude shit. I guess that frees up some money for more gear though.
>>47770046
>It fits with Howling Shadows because dev's escape is being helped by a strange metaplanar being, which are described in HS.
Something that would be clear if the story was in that section, instead of a header for the Mudane Critters chapter. If you hadn't said that, I would have continued to think that the magic light she saw was literally just any spirit conjured by someone trying to help, and not a corpselight (which usually aren't in caves, and don't help people anyways).
Cyberbump with a question
Making an ex-Boston Massacre, very Irishthanks to the personachip, only Irishwoman with shotgun fists. Any suggestions for a name? I'm looking for something short and snappy, the kind of thing the BM marketing department would come up with based on how easily they think drunk fans could chant it.
The working name is Lass, which is serviceable but pretty underwhelming.
>>47771844
My favorite thing to do is leave your runner with a shitty or no street name, and then have your group develop one for you.
>>47771893
That's a possibility, but she did escape with her jersey with a name stencilled on the back.
The group may give her a new name, but I want a decent place to start from.
>>47771844
Fianna.
>Irish mythological enough. Who cares that the warband has no relation to any aspect of her. It's Irish and chantable and reminds people of violence.
Some marketing dudes thought process.
>>47772107
I can see it. Thanks.
Can anyone point me towards some forums or blogs with shadowrun campaign recaps or the like? Looking for some stories to be inspired by
>>47747775
There are spirits who pay for the chance to experience possessing highly cybered individuals. I forget what book says that though.
>>47773721
Pastebin, 2D Shadowrun Storytime
Is the latest release of Chummer5a just exploding and crashing for basically everything? I can't seem to get AI or Life Modules to work at all, and even really mundane stuff is causing crashes.
>>47773859
Got most of a streetsam done in 5.181.0, didn't have any problems with crashes. There was something going on with MAG/RES characters, did you get the nightly that addresses that?
>>47773922
shit man, at this rate I'm not gonna be able to make my mysad characters again.
I just hope life modules get fixed.
I used to be able to delete a life module quality, now it tries to crash whenever I do.
shit sucks bruh.
