Welcome to a thread where we discuss the backstory to a children's card game and make awful OC for the same setting. Expect the lowest quality of fanfiction and self-inserts in this thread. Remember, every snowflake is shit, especially yours and especially mine.
Previous thread: >>47666030
What happened in it? Absolutely nothing of value other than more terrible snowflake discussion. You can find it yourself if you're really so interested.
There's also a repository where someone is obsessively hoarding all of the OC we produce, whether it's a shitty snowflake planeswalker or a terrible story. Whatever you make, expect it to be saved. Here's the repository:
>https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bwl7IuoVRkFxUDZRVGVfQ1BDbm8
And if you're interested in discussing the lore that's almost as bad as what we make, then here's the latest MtG lore article featuring Arlinn being a bitch:
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/magic-story/archmage-goldnight-2016-06-08
Enjoy your stay and don't forget, all snowflakes are equally shit, especially yours.
>>47668007
OP OP, I SUMMON THEE. PLACE THIS FILE IN THE REPOSITORY.
>>47709390
I'm just going to say it would work better if you say have him pilot that ship by himself, alone from plane to plane, and maybe try to hook up other walkers as crewmen instead of just "ancient curse no one can explain and he can drag people through the blind E like it's no one business".
>>47709551
Very true. And I plan on the main crew being flakes. This, why Gaia and I are going to make walkers out of five total.
>>47709551
>>47709576
Also, I see it as the rest of the crew would be zombies he's amassed on that plane until they walk away. Then repeat.
>>47709576
Glad we could prove that canon issues can be solved without shitposting if no one get upset over no reason.
Fucking tripcode resetting.
>>47709660
They usually are, we just have a couple of people who like to make an uproar. I always have an open ear to peeps and will make changes if they are rational.
Tell me about how your character became a planeswalker.
>>47710562
That's already discussed on most bio sheets. Look for yourself. Or is this post just bait for a certain someone?
>>47711144
I just like to hear people talk about their flakes. Sometimes posters share details in the thread that aren't on their bio sheets. And also just seeing enthusiasm about characters is nice.
>>47711289
I'll discuss all my flakes' ignitions when I get the free time from work.
>>47710562
Being really sad.
Threadly reminder that your snowflake is shit.
>>47710562
Nishal listened to his friends die and Iosha fucked up when building a ship
>>47712905
thank you based plaguelord, I will always remember that my flakes are shit and that I'm going to hell for making them
>>47710562
My guy was about to be eaten by drakes because his culture was a shit and he likes things that aren't his.
Since then he got big, and a little scary.
>>47713638
I just want you to know, you're one of my favourites, no matter what the Plaguelord says.
>>47715151
o-oh
thank angel lady, u2
>>47715151
But plaguelord is always right. You are allowed to like something even though it is shit. We are all.
>>47712889
Being an Innistrad Angel is suffering.
>>47710562
Razorcock was, always, and shall eternally be.
Gaia died and was denied access to the effective afterlife.
Belagir's plane died.
Spider mom's children were torn from her arms and slaughtered.
Myxxzzikt is unknown.
>>47709061
And this is why you don't let the plaguelord do the OP.
>>47721331
shh, it's fine.
at least there's more than 10 people posting this time.
Seems like a good thread for it. Question: How does one become a plane sealer, and what are the benefits/drawbacks of it?
There used to be old planeswalkers who were vastly more powerful than the new ones right? I remember next to nothing about Mtg, it's been over 14 years since I played it last
>>47721812
Planeswalker* not plane sealer thank you phone
>>47721812
Oh boy. Old walkers were several hundreds time more powerful than post-mending walkers, which are just glorified wizards with the option to jump to other planes with little control on where they land on the surface of the chosen world. Old walkers were pretty much immortal gods with next to never ending power and you had to pull out some serious shit to get rid of one.
Now, some people have the spark, the majority does not. Of those few people that can become walkers, only a small part actually does. To trigger the spark to ignite you need to face some deadly odds, a very painful/stressful life or death situation or stuff like that. Known examples being, burning for centuries inside a time bubble that makes you revive the same 3 seconds of being on fire over and over, being buried alive, getting actually killed by robot-wizards, and so on.
>>47721812
cry lots until papa mark makes you one
I meant to post this last night but 4chan was giving me issues. I liked the idea of Serena and The Cathar having a fight due to a misunderstanding, gives me a good chance to practice writing a combat scene as I've yet to do one. That is, if that's okay with his creator?
>>47722976
Why bother waiting for permission? Just write a story about whatever interests you.
>>47722976
Sure, thank you for asking.
>>47722976
Serena you're cute
You fucking fetishist
>>47724432
Thank you sir, I love you too.
>>47725047
I'm a woman.
why did innostrad atract the worst type of harbave
>>47725423
What the fuck? What are you even trying to say?
>>47725423
what
>>47725239
As long as you're cute
It doesn't me
>>47725239
As long as you're cute
It doesn't matter
>>47725423
>>47725542
>>47725544
The harbave is sort of a giant bird. It leaves in docks and harbors. Makes sense that there are many in Inninstrad given that Nephalia is a major location in the setting.
>>47726032
Oh ops, *lives. Pardon me, I hope the sense of the answer was as clear as the original question.
>>47725542
I think he's trying to say 'garbage', can't say I'm familiar with this Innostrad place though.
>>47726090
Isn't it the plane with all the angles fighting werewords and harbaves?
>>47726662
Are the angles acute?
>>47727128
Always.
I'm down for some acute angels.
>>47727237
Stop molesting people, Gaia
>>47727318
>>47727237
Remember when gaia was a tragic figure with deep lore? BR Aggro Farm remembers.
>>47727318
I do what I want
>>47727526
Kek, she still is.
I just like dicking around.
I'm at a family wedding right now
Save me
>>47728059
Planeswalk out, scrub.
Or pull a Cala and summon devils to make the party more fun.
>>47710562
He wanted to be rich, so he pulled the greatest con in his plane: Turning into a dragon and jewing people out of their money and life
>>47727550
But Gaia anon, you're not allowed to joke around, everything is canon!
>>47728059
Look on the bright side, at least now I can't awkwardly beg you to do more drawing.
>>47728345
It's ok. I discovered the open bar.
>>47728345
How's the story coming?
>>47729742
I had to console a friend for a bit, a friend of their's hung themselves recently and he needed some company. I'm starting on it now.
Threadly reminder that this things exists. Let's give Plaguelord something to complain about.
>>47730446
Oh shit, that's heavy
>>47731443
>not including fursona
I thought you were going for maximum autism
>>47731443
It's not a matter of complaining, it's a matter of keeping ourselves humble.
>>47731443
Fine. I don't think he actually needs a reason to complain though, other than the thread existing.
>>47732226
What a straight edge
>humans, swords
Kek. I get it.
>>47732664
I'm bad at editing.
>>47723569
Can you tell me The Cathar's opinion of Avacyn during SOI/EMN please? Just for story purposes.
REPO IS UPDATED
MAKE SURE YOUR SHIT IS THERE
>>47733053
Out of pure nostalgia or want to be back to a time before his spark ignited, he wants to believe that she is either not involved, acting against it,trying to help, or still missing somewhere.
If someone told him that Avacyn was responsible, they would get a long silent stare from him, a sigh as he makes sure his crossbow is loaded and gives a tired "so she is" before continuing onto his destination. Being told she's dead would get much the same reaction but he'd probably sit down if there was some place to do so instead of fucking off.
>>47734306
>The flake ball isn't in there
You have disappointed me, Gaia anon.
>>47734608
Shit, quoted the wrong post
>>47733713
GAIA!!!
Do your flakes dress differently based on the plane they are on?
I know Hondick does, he doesn't blend in, but it's the thought that counts.
>>47735254
Ka'koarm is always dressed for the occasionTHE OCCASION IS ALWAYS RAGE
>>47734306
Thanks, I'll need that information for later. I managed to make decent progress today all things considered, going to sleep now but it'll be finished tomorrow. I'm horribly slow at writing.
Pic semi related.
>>47735733
>Serena's gone mad
>still has big titties
Hint? Hint
>>47734608
Look again. It's totally there.
>>47732215
Then we don't even need it save for some exceptions not worth talking about.
Plaguelord a shit.
>>47738170
As a shit as you and I are.
>>47738235
Fairly probable, but we don't waste our time to let him know.
>>47721879
They have a fair amount of control, actually, as far as landing. They can also accrue more mana bonds than plane bound mages, meaning they can, in time, become extremely powerful, though we haven't seen any of r recent neo walkers with that kind of strength, only the former old walkers who had time to accrue the bonds before they got nerfed.
>>47738676
Murdock always lands face first. Always.
>>47735254
>Gaia
Nope
>Belagir
Yup
>Spider mom
Always nekkid
>Cock
Gloriously nekkid
>Myxxzzikt
Again, nekkid
Do you have any flakes who are oldwalkers? If so, who and why?
>>47739589
I can think of a few, likely Gaia, William, Immubruo, probably Vronak, maybe Tazdir
>>47739589
No, they just always seem like a joke to me.
>>47738676
>>47738705
Planeswalking is different from each planeswalker, from what I know. Some planeswalkers even have specific methods of doing so. To Kiora, it's traversing a vast and unknowable ocean, while to Elspeth, it's highly traumatic and almost always a blind leap of faith.
Okay, I think it's time I started writing again. I've got 5 hours before GURPS so I'm sure it'll be finished tonight.
>>47741244
>Avacyinsmercy
I chuckled
>>47740716
Man, even her powers are in on it, huh?
Who decided "today is multiversal Let's All Traumatize Elspeth day, and by today I mean EVERY DAY."
>>47741561
You can't have monowhite waifus, anon, it is forbibben love! So when the R&D makes a new one, in a couple blocks she either bites the dust or loses her mind completely to gain an (un)healthy red or black streak.
>>47741561
>I've never been fast at planeswalking. Once, you told me that it would get easier and hurt less. But it still feels like I have to use a metaphysical knife to shred my skin in preparation for the Blind Eternities. With my legs immobilized, I readied myself. But to leave, I had to bond with that fetid, violent mockery of a civilization. Before I could find the strength, the door exploded in its frame. I was still seconds away from being gone.
In her own words. Planeswalking is not nice for her.
Combat is hard, I should stick to writing Serena makes soup or cries about Avacyn. Ah well, two pages in and probably about one to go.
>>47742397
I actually wonder how Serena would react if she ever met Vronak and saw that "Avacyn" always accompanies him.
And even much so when she sees that it's Avacyn of Hope instead of That Time of the Month Avacyn.
>>47742814
Um, probably not very well. I hope that it never comes up, it would be horribly awkward.
>>47743230
But, sometimes that's the best kind of stories.
>>47743277
Seems like it would end in tears.
I'm proof reading it now, I'm pretty nervous about writing for some else's character so I hope I haven't made any mistakes on that front.
>>47744612
You'll do fine. People are pretty lenient on writefaggings.
So I was away for few days for action and adventure. Whats been going on around here? Seemingly waifushit was added to the title.
>>47745273
Plaguelord was OP this time. He is here to remind us we are all shit.
Thank you based Plaguelord.
>>47745287
Sure?
>>47745318
Messenger is not shit. Messenger is gold.
Anyway, I can't remember much of what happened off the top of my head without looking. Someone wrote some stuff for the flake ball, which is up on the repo. We have a few new flakes, including an Innistrad nobel and an interplanar cursed pirate. Serena is writing something between her flake and another flake. And anything else I'd have to look to tell you.
>>47745373
clearly Messenger is Iron, Gaia, not Gold
>>47745391
Hey now. You know I'm getting old. My eyesight isn't what it used to be.
>>47745373
Fair enough. Even though I dont contribute anymore with either Messenger or Beep, its good to keep up somehow.
>>47745391
I actually never determined what material Messenger is made from. The main art is iron myr, yes, but in every other art his material changes.
>>47745373
No no, messenger is shit
We are all shit lest pride overtakes us.
>>47745637
>implying WotC didnt make myr sentient species just because Messenger was so awesome to them
>>47745373
I gave pretty important opinions on comics last thread! Comics have to amount to something, otherwise I am wasting my life, really.
>>47745930
I'm sorry.
>>47746035
I was clearly joking, you know?
I am pretty aware I am throwing my life away by drawing comics.
>>47746063
You're making money, right? Then it's not a waste of time.
Okay, I need to stop being a little bitch and just post it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aP7kefW71CciWEKUMLSK6aAqqJ9_VzR7wG0SMzIgMbs
For The Cathar's anon, if there's anything you're unhappy with let me know, it's in a doc still so I can change it if needs be.
So here you go, The Cathar and Serena get into a fight. Be gentle.
>>47746638
As The Cathar anon, I like it.
>>47747461
Thank you! I was really worried. I'd like to write some more between them at some point, I like the dynamic of the grumpy guy who doesn't talk much and the kind angel who looks out for him.
Anyway, I'm posting from bed right now. Goodnight flake thread.
>>47747540
I did like his penchant for one line responses.
>>47747919
One word
Not line
>>47746063
What kind of comics?
>>47748661
My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic
>>47748958
Boooooooo
>>47750081
Murdock-chan went to sleep, I believe.
>>47739819
Narimi was also one, iirc.
So what's everyone up to today?
>>47752980
Regretting waking up.
>>47753087
shh, it's okwrite some smut
>>47748958
Neat
>>47748958
>>47750081
>>47750636
You are so funny people, fucking funny.
It is french comics. But for now I am just living off commissions and waiting to get a real job.
>>47753441
Hey, good for you for doing something other than burger hell or retail hell.
>>47753087
Phyrexia will come out
Tomorrow
bet your oil that tomorrow
all will be one.
Just thinking about
Phyresis
wipes aways all the flesh
and weakness
'til there's none!
When I'm stuck on a plane
that's gray
and lonely
I just flay some skin
and grin
and say
Oh
Phyrexia will come out
tomorrow
So you gotta flay on
'til tomorrow
Come what may
Tomorrow
Tomorrow
I'll compleat ya
Tomorrow~
Phyrexia's
only a day
away~
>>47753500
Shit I'm scared now. Like man I have to work and I can't because I think there are phyrexians out of my windows now.
>>47753553
Here's a qt to help you work.
>>47746638
My only real criticism is about punctuation mistakes and run-on sentences. I'd go back through if I were you, and mark down all of the sentences that can be split in teo. This should especially happen during the action sequences, as longer sentences tend to detract from the reader's sense of urgency.
Lastly, perhaps have their misunderstanding last longer, and come to a halt more dramatically. This will also heighten the tension while playing up the drama and engaging the reader's sympathies.
>>47753111
Don't tempt me.
>>47753785
Thanks, I get my friends to read stuff first but they're too nice to actually point out problems. Punctuation is a serious problem I have, I'll go back through it today, I've got time.
If you could clarify a bit more on that last bit that would be great.
Time to actually get out of bed though, Avacyn snuggle times are fun and all but I have things to do today.
>>47753928
Gaia was most likely saying the punch on could have continued for a bit, though that could be saved for Snowflake Civil War
>S: I'm sorry, but she's my friend
>The Cathar draws his sword
>TC:... so was I.
>>47753928write some smut, serena anon
write some Rakkan-on-Kinrakar smut
>>47753684
Why is she posing like Napoleon?
>>47754033
I don't think writing smut would do any good to these threads.Or I would be doing it already
>>47754051
shh
let the squid fuck the minotaur
>>47753967
I'm only really hesitant with that because I don't really want Serena to get murdered any harder.
>>47754033
Oh Avacyn, my minotaur fetish...
>>47754215
Milk isn't the only thing that comes in quarts
I actually have written smut for living, but I dont want to ruin the reputation of myself and the reputation of these threads by writing some about the flakes. That would be begging for trouble.I also dont believe I know enough smutty details about pretty much any of the flakes to make a satisfying smut.
>>47754215
I was thinking something along the lines of Serena turning the tables as he tries to end her, knocking the sword out of his hands. Some Fisticuffs happen or some such stuff, ending with her with a foot on The Cathar's chest.
He tells her to finish him, she demands to know how he knew her name
they realize that the other isn't crazy pants
it goes from there.
>>47754237
Oh my.
>>47753928
No problem. As for the details, I'll give you a more comprehensive rundown in about 7 hours when I get home from work.
P.S. I suck at action sequences, too. I've only done one in my life. As a matter of fact, I'd only done any level of creative writing maaaaaybe once every other year before these threads.
>>47754478
I like that, maybe Serena can get the upper hand with some offensive magic, piercing light maybe?
>>47754477
I hear you, I don't know I'd be comfortable with real smut for Serena, cute romantic stuff could be adorable though.
>>47754485
Yeah, I almost failed English in high school, barely managed to get a C, writing is hard.
>>47754521
>I hear you, I don't know I'd be comfortable with real smut for Serena, cute romantic stuff could be adorable though.
Also if I took requests, apart from few exceptions, knowing 4chan, the suggestions would be on the rank of
>Serena/Gaia gets raped
I just find rape kinda boring in smut.
>>47754582
>not gaia doing the raping.
>>47754655
>Not Gaia raping Serena
>Not Serena liking it
>>47754721
Oh my.
>>47754655
>>47754721
Exactly what I said. People just want rape around here.
>>47754777
In short, we need content and porn is not content. Porn is an extra for when content is already solid.
>>47754841
>implying gaia doesn't have content.
You do realize she and probably Anna have the most writing/content of any flake, right?
>>47754841
Exactly. But people are already screaming for smut and romantic pairings.
>>47754878
Overall content, not single flake content. Also Del and Murdock probably have as much content as those you named as well.
>>47754879
Romantic pairings are ok of there is an actual story around them. Smut is just for smut sake.
>>47754777
I think people were saying it as a joke, 'cause you brought it up first.
>>47754752
It's not so bad
After the tenth time
>>47753418
That wasn't Murdock-chan. Just someone making a funny.
>>47753441
Good morning sleepy-head.
>>47753500
Somewhere over the rainbow
All is one
Pain and suffering will
never be done
>>47753553
Just image how much scarier Signs would have been done if it were te Phyrexians roaming the Earth.
>>47755039
>>47753418
I swear if anyone tries to pass for me another time i am not drawing anything for this shit as soon as i have time.
>>47755104
It's okay. I think itms over. You want a hug?
>>47755104
But Murdock Anon, I love pictures.
REPO UPDATE
I just noticed quite a few files are not appearing in the drive. This is a bug in Google drive itself that I have noticed before. I will fix it when I get home, but that will not be for about 6 more hours. Hang tight until then.
I just had to worst idea, I suddenly want a Serena plushie to go with my Avacyn, someone stop be I shouldn't be allowed to have money.
Don't you die on me!
>>47756463
But anon, death is inevitable
>>47755215
I want a Nahiri plushy
>>47757217
So you can burn it at the stake? Me too!
>>47757256
No, so we can make the Avacyn plushie and Nahiri plushie kiss.
>>47757309
Is that what Vronak will do if Nahiri dies in EMN?
>>47757309
>>47755215
>>47757217
>Not wanting an Elesh Norn plushy
>>47757339
Can't summon duplicates of Planeswalkers... As far as I know. But, that's a little too much into current lore for Vronak. But, that strikes a question. Duplicates have the same personalities as whatever they are created after just without the experiences... But, do summons retain experiences from the first time they are summoned by a particular mage up until the mage no longer summons them again, either becoming unnecessary or upon their death?
>>47757339
Also, here you go.
>>47757346
>>47756482
>There are Snowflakes who actually support Phyrexia
>>47757346
>Not wanting a Gitgud Monster plushe
>>47758090
yeah, I never really got that. Considering Phyrexia is literally against the basic fabric of a Planeswalker it would be very difficult to find a walker who would support them .
>>47758152
Like all of Zendikar with the Eldrazi? All it takes is for some dumb society to worship them and bam! One is born with a spark and becomes their champion.
>>47758225
Except with Phyrexia becoming their champion means torn apart limb by limb
>>47758062
Actually, even in the days of Oldwalkers we've found that summons of specific beings, to people that knew the real one, are not perfect copies in terms of how they behave.
It's sort of like if you made an android replica of someone, but the AI doesn't have the same concepts of feeling and self-awareness. It might be built to do things and act like the original person did, but you can tell that there's something not quite right about it.
>>47758341
After they take over the multiverse. I think they wouldn't assimilate the walker until they outlasted their usefulness.
>>47758152
Right?
Even my flake, Remes, who is all about artifice, has stopped visiting Mirrodin since the Phyrexian invasion for fear of how dangerous it is.
>>47758368
naw, that doesn't fit with Phyrexian philosophy. They would never allow an Imperfect being to lead them or even be their vanguard.
>>47758368
They wouldn't even need to wait until they conquered everything, which is theoretically impossible. They would just have to have the Walker show them how to get out of New Phyrexia and then kill them.
>>47758364
And I believe where the lack of the same experiences come in. When they learn things on their own and form their own experiences, they start to drift further apart from their creative model. But, do they keep those new experiences from previous summonings?
>>47758405
If that were the case, they'd probably just experiment on the walker and try to figure out how the spark functions, how to duplicate it, and/or how to bond one to a Phyrexian.
>>47758500
Yawgmoth spent 10,000 years trying to figure that one out. If he couldn't do it I doubt anyone currently alive could do it.
>>47758532
That doesn't mean they won't try.
>>47758550
true
>>47758078
What is this?
>>47758532
I think if anyone could do it, Jin Gitaxias could.
>>47758569
Fluff?
>>47758532
Compleation seems to be the one process other than death that destroys a planeswalker's spark permanently. I'm not totally sure why though. Maybe it's the identity-killing nature of compleation or perhaps because compleation's a bizarre form of necromancy in its own right? It's hard to say.
>>47758458
Summoned beings, coming from aether, are temporary. They wouldn't collect permanent memories over multiple summonings. Your experience matters though, because you can command it differently based on what's happened before.
>>47758674
The reason is that the process of Compleation requires the subject to die then be brought back from death.
>>47758698
It's a process of gradual replacement of flesh with metal in a living creature though, death isn't necessarily involved and consider that we've got partially metal planeswalker in the form of Tezzeret and a full artifact planeswalker in the form of Karn, although his situation is unique.
>>47758679
As I see it, once you have summoned a creature that is a duplicate of a real creature, since it has behaviorisms modeled after that creature, the next time you summon it, you'd be using the template of the previous creature you summoned rather than using the same creature it was originally modeled after. So, theoretically it could retain memories of the last time you summoned it since you are conjuring that template. So, any differences would have been copied. Kind of like Ashaya.
>>47758733
The other problem is that Oil is required and Oil negates a spark
>>47758775
The summoning of Ashaya is a different case, particularly since it is typically done ON Zendikar.
"Summoned" creatures take two forms. There are the ones pulled from Aether that are facsimiles of the original thing, or there are real creatures that are either willingly serving you or are being controlled by some form of geas. Ashaya in particular isn't temporary, as it is part of the plane itself.
>>47758815
I'm interested in the 'why' part of it though.
>>47758863
best reason I heard was that A spark is the ultimate manifestation of life while oil is the ultimate manifestation of Death.
>>47758849
Ashaya wasn't the soul of Zendikar or apart of Zendikar at all but was Nissa that was connected to Zendikar. Summons don't always just fight then go away, they stay for as long as they are needed or until they are killed. And Nissa didn't summon a copy of any creature to make Ashaya, she just made Ashaya. And when she left Zendikar and it disipated, and then returned and brought it back, it still had the previous memories. And that's the basis for my theory of summons retaining memories. That it's not like it's retaining them on it's own, more like you are making a new template for the summon that was modeled after the last time you summoned it.
>>47758928
Not sure about that but it could be the case. I guess someone could come up with a ridiculous reason for a Phyrexian walker though.
I mean, Jeska went through a process that killed her spark and her identity only to eventually be able to ignite when she emerged from the deceased Karona as a planeswalker and her original self. Her ignition was even more ridiculous and convoluted than Karn's.
>>47758971
>Wasn't a part of Zendikar
What is an elemental, friend? Despite the good points you make regarding how summons can LAST despite still being temporary, this is the crux of the entire argument.
>>47759002
The only problem would be that a Phyrexian Walker would mean an almost guaranteed Phyrexian victory. Imagine how fucked the Multiverse would be if Karn not only knew he was spreading oil but was doing it intentionally.
>Go to plane
>Walk around a bit
>Seed the world with oil
>Wait a few decades/centuries
>????????
>Grand Compleation completed
>>47759086
A common theory is glistening oil is only effective against artifact creatures or creatures that are contaminated with metal.
Urborg's saturated with glistening oil without being a Phyrexian stronghold, the one creature immune to it on Mirrodin was someone that lacked any metal components in their body, etcetera. Fleshy creatures can still be compleated, this is true, but they can't be corrupted by glistening oil.
Mirrodin was designed from the ground up by an oil-corrupted Mirari to be the perfect host for New Phyrexia. The only other plane that's likely to suffer from the presence of glistening oil is Alara or more specifically, Esper.
>>47759149
It might take time but oil might have an effect on flesh. Imagine if a plane is saturated with oil from the inside for a thousand years.
>>47758587
Just wondering why you linked it to me specifically. I mean, I like it, angels. I'm just kinda confused.
>>47759193
Urborg's already had a few centuries, if I recall the timeline correctly and all that's done is kept the place a wasteland saturated with black mana but still populated by some living creatures that show no sign of Phyrexian affiliation.
>>47759234
it's only been 300 years since Yawgmoth and the Invasion
>>47759242
Hence 'centuries.' And considering how slow a pace MtG is moving right now, with a roughly 1:1 ratio of real time to MtG time, it'll take centuries of real life before we get to the stage where we find out if oil corrupts non-metallic life over thousands of years.
>>47759037
Elementals are just beings made of element energy. Not some Avatar of the plane itself.
>>47759276
could have time travel shenanigans again.
But that's just grasping at straws really.
>>47759227
Because I figured that you'd like it. It's fluff.
>>47759276
Well it's been like 4 years since AVR and only around a year or two has passed on Innistrad so it's even slower than that.
>>47759293
Someone called?
>>47759279
That wasn't the point though. They are literally natural elements (in this case being actually part of the plane), animated by magic. This is what we call a deflection.
You can argue that Ashaya doesn't count as an Avatar, but it's a part of the plane given life. More than that, Ashaya is Legendary, meaning that Nissa isn't just animating an elemental together and saying "this is Ashaya," this is Nissa specifically animating Ashaya from the plane. She is "worldwaking" Zendikar, and Ashaya is the being that comes to answer the call.
>>47759319
>>47759293
So, we have a time-traveling planeswalker go forward in time to bring back an oil-corrupted creature from a plane that has been corrupted by the glistening oil over the course of millennia, that also possesses a spark, in order to create a potentially lore-abiding Phyrexian planeswalker.
Ingenious.
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/zendikar-2015-08-12
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/silent-cry-2015-08-26
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/nissas-quest-2015-09-23
>http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/nissas-resolve-2015-10-07
>>47759424
Much appreciated that you posted articles related to a discussion happening, but could you clarify the particulars of what you wanted readers to gain?
>>47759544
I've learned not to participate in certain arguments that take place in these threads.
All I'm willing to contribute is that we know that Ashaya is the embodiment of Zendikar and those articles support that.
>>47759572
Does it outright specify that though? I know Nissa says that he is apart of Zendikar, but she might just be meaning that since he is made of wood. I've never seen anything actually stating that he is the plane itself brought form. Which would be weird considering we have the avatar Soul of Zendikar.
>>47759572
Your wish to be neutral is understood, and your assistance in gathering lore materials is appreciated.
>>47759624
Not neutral. I'm just not participating even though I thoroughly disagree with certain statements that are being made. Hopefully some other people will make my points for me in my place, using the information that has been presented.
>>47759297
I do like it. Can be friend?
>>47759685
Sure can.
>>47759649
>>47759624
It's not like I don't see your point. I was merely tossing around a theory.
>>47759603
Considering that Ashaya vanished when the soul of Zendikar was kidnapped by ob nixilis without anyone but Nissa noticing, it is safe to say that it is a direct manifestation of Zendikar
>>47760160
Possibly, or it could have meant that Nissa lost her connection to Zendikar and no longer had the control over Zendikar's mana to sustain Ashaya permenantly. But, I think it's a little of both, personally.
>>47759649
I'm guessing it's for the same reason I stopped trying to say anything about the actual lore of Magic in these threads at all.
>>47761462
>Hasn't noticed all of the lore we've discussed over the past week
Nigga pleez
>>47761462
Yeah, you've got it right.
>>47761584
There's a specific reason why he chooses not to take part though, same as a whole bunch of other people.
>>47761617
Is it because some people's opinions can't be changed no matter what you say?
REPO UPDATE
Hey, so it seems some files I can't get to recover. I'm not sure what happened, but they aren't showing up again.
Please check all of your flakes, writefaggings, descriptions, etc. Please let me know if something is missing. I will do my best to figure out what's gone, but if I miss something let me know.
Thank you.
>>47761682
It's best if nothing is said otherwise the thread will be filled with non-stop trolling.
>>47761717
Ok. I've replaced what I can. The rest is up to you.
https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/740579526778949632
Do you suppose this has some deeper meaning? Is that awesome greentext story going to turn out true?
>>47761975
I've amended that story a bit, I'm waiting on a few friends to read it and I'll post it again for approval.
>>47762060
I remember it was fake. But the anon who wrote it is fucking glorious.
I want it to be real.
>>47762227
Oh I know it's not 'true' but I mean, something similar could happen, a whole plane of people looking up to Avacyn with the mana of the plane being channelled by things like that.
>>47762317
Btw, this pic was spoiled along with the line:
"An Innistrad without Avacyn is an Innistrad drenched in chaos"
Maybe, if I'm being an optimist, this could allude to an Avacyn return? As in, without her the plane literally can't survive? So if they want to keep Innistrad as a plane and NOT kill it off this set, they need her to return?
I dunno. Could just be a pipe dream.
>>47762352
They'll bullshit something or another to keep the plane around so they can return again. I mean, they bullshitted a way to let Zendikar survive, and it should've been devoured. And Innistrad's a much more popular plane than Zendikar is, since Zendikar's popularity came from Being A Strong Set with Full Art Lands (and the Eldrazi that they killed off)
>>47762352
That was my thinking too, I have hope. It'll keep me going.
>>47762422
Until they cruelly tear it away. And give us something as ham-fisted and dumb as BFZ's ending.
>>47762446
Please let me have this for now, I'm not having a good day.
>>47762446
>>47762471
What's better? Chandra's donk or Avacyn's thighs?
>>47762490
Innistrad angels are the thigh goddesses, Avacyn is the greatest angel so she has the greatest thighs.
>>47762490
How dare you make me choose between the two characters I have pages dedicated to in my rare binder.
So the answer is obvious.Jaya
Can anyone enlighten me on Vish Kal? What plane is he from? Who is he?
He is represented in one card, and referred to in two, both of which are quotes.
>>47762717
Considering that core sets are based on Shandalar for the most part, Vish Kal's probably from there.
He's one of many miscellaneous Shandalar characters.
>>47762717
Going to say Shandalar since that is the generic plane
>>47762590
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aP7kefW71CciWEKUMLSK6aAqqJ9_VzR7wG0SMzIgMbs/edit
Here, updated. Let me know what you think. Serena v Cathar 2: The Angel Strikes Back.
>>47759193
>Oil might have an effect on flesh
>Might
>Rotted Hystrix
>Spread the Sickness
>Instill Infection
I miss these two.
>>47762810
We're talking about flesh with zero metal contaminating it. A normal person, rather than anything that lives on Mirrodin.
>>47762847
Fuck, forgot the file.
>>47762471
I don't know if you ever saved the pic that I uploaded of Akroma x Avacyn, but here you go.
>>47763746
If it's got Avacyn, I saved it.
Working on another one of these for Winifred, because I still haven't gotten around to it, but for now...
OP OP, I SUMMON THEE. PLACE THIS FILE IN THE REPOSITORY.
>>47764066
>OP OP, I SUMMON THEE. PLACE THIS FILE IN THE REPOSITORY.
What's in it for me, eh?
>>47762060
>>47762227
>People actually saved that little greentext I did as wishful thinking
Aw.
...I really ought to writefag for real a bit sometime rather than just lurking here.
>>47764161
Please do. Everyone I've showed that greentext to wants it to happen for real.But then we've all agreed that that's too perfect, too good for mtg.
>>47764202
Isn't that the point of snowflakes? Better concepts with shitty executions?
>>47764202
Indeed.
I just realised, I wrote a story where two characters got into a fight and ended up seriously harming each other over a simple misunderstanding because both didn't take the time to talk. It's like real MtG lore!
>>47764116
I dunno? Some kind of vague satisfaction gained from amassing flake data?
>>47764304
I found your fiance's deviantart account. Should I say hello?
>>47765263
Wat. How. I mean, I'm not sure he ever uses it so go ahead.
>>47765358
I fucking found you.
>>47765499
You got me. Was it the plushie? I bet it was the plushie.
