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>Where can I find the rules?
http://www.forum.specialist-arms.com/index.php?topic=5203.0
>What the FUCK? What rules books do I actually need?
http://pastebin.com/6AGsum1s (embed)
(Short version: 2007 edition of the rulebook, 2010 Update, and Armada)
Revised is a set of fan-rules, written almost entirely by a Dark Eldar player. It shows.
>Where can I find physical miniatures to use/proxy with?
http://pastebin.com/jC96JeMV (embed) (But we always need more - Feel free to chip in with others you've found in-thread)
Also looking for more non-GW minis suitable for running boarding party games.
>Paper ship Proxies:
https://www.sendspace.com/file/h6zp53
http://imgur.com/a/MhFcj
>Boarding action rules
https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Zone_Mortalis_Expansion.pdf
See the physical models link for some appropriate options for Navy troops
>Tactics and strategy resources for tabletop
Marine Tactica underway.
AdMech tactica: http://pastebin.com/YSrAf9f7 (embed)
>BFG:Armada is now live
>Battleflee/tg/othic Steam Group
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/bfgtg
>Anon is hosting a campaign, for more info go here:
http://tg-gothiccampaign.freeforums.net/
>>47255427
>tfw these threads last for days because they're bumped so slowly.
Are those bfgg threads still TT related? If so let me bump with some wip
>>47255622
Its sorta comfy. I can go to work comforted with the knowledge that battlefleet tg will still be here when i get back
When will the new campaign expasion arrive?
>>47255837
Yeah, that's some good shit, anon.
Going with a Slaanesh fleet?
>>47255929
There are no announced plans for a new campaign in the near future. If they do, they might make one for the Tau when they arrive.
>>47255837
Both the tabletop and vidya are more than welcome here.
>>47255971
>they might make one for the Tau when they arrive.
t would be a logical stepwill only buy it if I'm able to play as the crusade though
>>47255938
Yes! Want to make the prows white and give an overall gold trim. Will post result later/tomorrow ITT
Also how should i do the Bombers? Someone got reference for Chaos interceptors/Bombers? Got these i think dystopian wars flyers
>>47256031
Wasnt thectau announcement something about " transmissions coming from the damocles sector"
>>47256051
Solid man.
As for the bombers, here's a picture of a Talon in the artwork.
I think you could do something solid for pink/gold/white here.
>>47256896
Here is a Hellblade, Chaos intercepter.
I'll be honest man, those Dystopian fighters you got fit far more with the Imperium, I notice you got an Imperial ship painted to look Slaaneshi back >>47255837 here.(Dunno if it's the angle, but the thing looks a bit crooked), maybe you could fluff those fighters as being recent heretics and sporting the usual Imperial gear? Brought in too replenish losses of the older stuff?
For the vidya game what's the best Chaos battle cruiser?
I like the Archeron but the Styx also seems appealing
>>47256976
What are you going for?
>>47256989
Something simple detect enemies early and strike from far away.
>>47256896
>>47256930
Yeha i was the anon who fucked up a cruiser by drying it on a heater for 5min. Some guy did "the warp overtaking me " macro With it i think.
But you are right those tokens look Mord like IN Thunderbolt fighters. Maybe i go With a generic Themen for them until i get hands on something closer to Talons or hellblades
>>47257149
Take the carrier and slap some detection skills and upgrades on it.
>>47257226
Man, I remember you, sucks dude.
I mean, use what you want man. I was just musing on ways to fluff it out.
/tg/ help me make chaos fun?
I've gotten to level eight with the IN easily. Orkz were a (violent ramming and dakka filled) breeze. Eldar are piss easy to dominate with and it's sorta fun being that OP.
Chaos though are flimsy and dull.
The only way I've found to do consistent damage is launch bays on everything, keep the enemy spotted and assault and/or bomb them to oblivion.
This seems to take forever and generally is fantastically dull after the other fleets. .
Wat do?
Also general chaos tactics appreciated
>>47257719
Put Slaanesh on everything and laugh as entire fleet warp out after losing a single escort.
>>47257719
Chaos is the sneakiest faction in the game. Use spotting/identification shenanigans to your advantage - entering silent running, then activating augur disruptors once the enemy enters your ability range. If you're able to get the jump on your foe at the start of the engagement, you'll be putting in a lot of damage before the enemy ships can strike back.
Also take probes/detectors to keep the enemy identified and to flush them out, if they try to use similar feats of stealth on you or try to shake off your bombers.
>>47257719
NURGLE
SLAUGHTERS
>>47259390
make sure to rig them with asteroid proof shields for maximum shenanigans
>>47260295
I feel like asteroid shields are an underrated investment.
>>47256896
>>47256930
Hellblades and Helltalons are atmospheric craft. Chaos space strike craft are the Swiftdeath and the Doomfire.
>>47261082
Huh, I'm retarded then.
Marine DLC dropping when?
>>47261484
June.
http://forum.battlefleetgothic-armada.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2967
WHO /slakingslaaneshsthirstforeldar/ HERE?
>>47262020
psshhh nothin personel kid
TT players, what's your favorite set up for a Chaos fleet?
>>47259082
This
What would be a good nickname for a Tau admiral who uses a black hole/neutron star (taking advantage of the titanic gravity) as a gravity slingshot point for their fleets and interplanetary missiles and spy probes?
>>47262602
2/3 Light cruiser lancers.
1 Heavy Carrier.
1/2 Carnage support.
Improve range/lance damage.
>>47263288
Note that a Neutron Star is incredibly radioactive. It's a solid piece of nuclear/quantum "matter" of the size of a city.
>>47263288
Singularity Tamer.
>>47263288
Gravity sailor.
Force bender.
Trick shoter.
>>47263288
Reach arounder
>>47263288
Ri'k Aun'rund.
>Use terminators on an ork light cruiser
>They failed
Do orks have space hulk genestealers there, or something?
>>47263919
Take a look at the obstacles on the map.
Namely, the asteroid cities. Your ship covers about half of that, dwarfs it if it is battleship. Terminator squads are what..six men? 12 maybe?
12 Terminators going up against an asteroid cities worth of Orks. Or maybe 100 Stormtroopers if you didn't get the favor.
Think about that every time they pull it off.
>>47263919
Troop value's a bitch.
You know what's worse? Eldar cruisers shooting several Avatars into a single ship, and each flaming faggot fails to do shit (except, say retrieve the data).
>>47264060
Imagine an Avatar of Khaine attempting to steal data from an Imperial computer with its GIANT FLAMING MURDER HANDS.
>>47264075
>he tries to put the data on a USB stick
>keeps slipping out of his hands due to all the blood
>>47264082
>tries to type on the imperial keyboard
>his giant bloody hand types several at once so he has to keep backspacing
and this is why the strike fails.
>>47264092
>tries to call Webway tech support
>fingers are too big to press the right button and he's stuck on hold
>No Sly Marbo in Last Stand
>>47264299
Wrong thread. But I hope for more things for DoW2 until dies with DoW3 release.
>>47264299
>No Sly Marbo in BFGA
>>47264311
>Eldar boards a ship with imperial guard favor
>"I am Khaine a mensha khaine!"
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>BOARDING FAILED
Imperial guard favor
-Troop value +50
-Sly Marbo infiltration replaces lightning strike +5 assault actions
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMNWAJiz5Y
>>47264448
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA replaces lighting strike and assault action sfx
What will replace lighting strike for the Tau? They don't have mature teleporting technology.
>>47265123
Short range Orca attack? Or would that be an assault boat? I think they might just ignore that piece of fluff for the sake of gameplay, lighning strikes are pretty important for balance on Data and vs Eldar.
>>47265123
Battlesuit assault?
>>47265123
I'm sure there will be a favours for Void Suits.
>>47264311
>BFGG Thread, AAAAAAAAAAA Edition
When?
>>47265123
Stealth Assault Craft. They were mentioned in Mont'ka.
>>47265123
Drone strike.
Is the Extra Turrets upgrade ever worth it?
What about Voss shields on Dauntlesses?
>>47266346
>Is the Extra Turrets upgrade ever worth it?
IMO, it's just better to get a carrier for fighter coverage.
>What about Voss shields on Dauntlesses?
It's decent but it should be one of the last upgrade you should take for them since they don't have a lot of shield to begin with.
Additionnal shield, HP and AP ammo should be taken first, anything else is up to you.
>>47266346
extra turrets is pretty good on escorts, since they don't have a lot in general, and you can bring multiple of them and cluster them for a maximum benefit
>>47266346
Can the job of the Dauntless be done by two Sword Escort?
>>47266346
My macro-escorts have them for a plus because why not?
God damn when they will nerf this bullshit edlar laser of death? Can't anything and my battleship destroyed in 2 beams.
>>47266772
Void or mwj out of the way
Why is there no way to issue mass orders? If i want to unleash a wave or torpedoes when spamming cobras, I have to click on each individual one!
>>47267035
Use the tab button.
Rammin a panzy voidstalker in da rear with iz own hemlok
Why iz orkz so fun mate?
>>47266772
Seriously? Just mwj, overload void shields or whatever and then pound the Eldar ship to smithereens.
>>47267265
>mwj
What?
>>47266474
Dauntless has more staying and long term fire power if you know what youre doing. Swords or firestorms are good if you need to concentrate fire in one target
>>47267456
>crude understanding of void combat strategy
>>47267456
Micro Warp Jump.
>>47267909
Don't have it on all my ships and cooldown are huge.
>>47268189
You don't need it on all of your ships, just some.
Also why not? Along with stasis bombs, Taunt and the indestructible button it's basically the best ability. You are commanding slow moving ships with fixed arc weaponry and you can get an ability that lets you teleport.
>>47267265
This. Macro weapons shred Eldar, even when they're moving. Use this and novacannons at range. Use your bombs to limit his movement options, and focus fire on visible ships.
>>47269035
I play orks, i don't have Nova cannons.
>>47269093
In that cause, use taunt and BRB to close the distance.
If you need Nova cannon, Blood Axes favor gives it to you, otherwise take the Traktor Beam.
Threadly reminder that Eldar players deserve the vitriol they receive.
Also reminder that BFG: A has multiple bullshit game modes that with certain faction matchups are extremely poorly balanced.
>>47269093
>I play orks
>I don't have nova cannons
YOUZ NOT ORKY ENUFF!
>>47261638
>Spess Mahreens
>Pre-set behaviors
>More skills, hopefully improving balance
Yes.
>>47269093
How are you losing to eldar?
>>47269449
>tfw Space Marines will have Blood Ravens
>They'll be experts at boarding
>>47269560
>Implying they wont be experts at Data acquisition
>>47269450
They use bullshit laser and run away, no way to catch them or do anything to them.
>>47269595
>Blood Ravens will have a chance to be gifted a ship upgrade
>>47269717
Whenever Blood Ravens use an assault action on an enemy ship, they can get a "gift" as a crit result. This inflicts a crit on a random weapon, and the Raven ship gains the destroyed weapon.
/tg/, what skills should you put on a Dauntless? Other race's light cruisers are pretty easy to decide (boost for Orks, stasis and probes for Chaos, vaul-bullshit for Eldar), but I can't work out what my Dauntlesses want.
>>47269449
All of the IN favors except for Space Marines make just as much sense applied to an SM fleet.
>>47269357
Go back to the steam forums to pour salt, you scrub.
>>47269768
>Blood raven ship has been fighting in a 2v2 match for a while and so far critted like a god
>Has now lances, a nova cannon, torpedo tubes that launch marines or regular torps, launch bays and 8 sets of plasma ,macros as well as 12 turreted smaller macros
This would be absolutely hilarious
>>47269802
Support stuff, like plasma bombs and stasis bombs. They're typically not the first ships to be taking hits so having those abilities can be important.
They are your fastest line ships, so having the skill that instantly refills your maneuver gauge could help too.
Is there a reason for getting anything beside mechanicus favour in mutliplayer?
>>47271048
Spehss muhreens for 5 boarding actions per launch.
Or 3 per lightning strike (must have the additional teleportariums for this one).
>>47271048
Inquisition if you're running carrier (not recommended, just play Chaos for that).
SM for boarding/LT.
IN if you want a meme fleet.
>>47271074
But the additional upgrade and skill seems more worthwhile in the long run.
>>47271109
IN, unless you run your entire fleet with it and hide for the cobra spam. Is not that useful.
>>47255837
Painted the prow white and gave it a gold trim. The Rest i trimed Bronze. Need to wash it now.
>>47271187
Admittedly this is hilarious.
I would agree that mechanicus is the best favour. I used it on nearly everything as it gives you so much more flexibility (or as I did, taunt + ramming prow on everything)
Where is your (laughing) God now Eldar?
>>47272119
What's the plan for the main guns? any ideas there?
Looks neat, mang'.
>>47271109
>>47271187
Cobra spam can be hilarious if you time the warp in right
Boxin in pesky eldar with torpedos and cobras turned into torpedos
> AI space marine allies
> 1 strike cruiser, 2 escorts
> They deploy as far away from my guys as possible, run in, both escorts die without doing anything
> Strike cruiser gets heavily damaged and flees the battle
> I am now left with 300 points of ships again 600 points
> All enemies still at full hull/systems
Fuck this game.
>>47273315
Honestly their performance in the campaign makes me worried about hiw theyll be pmce we get our grubby little mitts in them
I hope the favorsll be cool though
>>47273636
I wouldn't worry. The AI just goes full retard at times.
Question for the eventually Tau and Nid fleets. Will they have insubordination or not? It should be impossible for insubordination for Tyranids, but I don't know much about Tau morale/subordination.
>>47274078
Tau can break and run, Farsight being one of the big examples of that.
Think the War of Dakka mentions the Tau flipping out as well.
>>47274210
Anon, now you're just being a bully.
>>47274277
Well he had enough points for an escort to scout ahead. He didn't get one so he was asking for it.
>>47274078
Tau can insubordinate, I guess Tyranids can lose hive mind control
>>47274078
Nids could have a feral thing where they lose connection with the hivemind and start nomming everything
TRIPPLE VOIDSTALKER MATCH
>>47274164
>>47274366
>>47274389
I thought Farsight was the odd man out. Mind posting that part about Tau flipping out during the War of Dakka? As for the Nids that going feral works.
>>47274210
>>47274334
>>47274353
>>47274380
>>47274403
>>47274436
>>47274450
We get it. You run a full Slaaneshi fleet and are good at beating scrub Eldar players who try to cheese with Voidstalkers.
>>47274482
L-lewd!
>normal conversation among eldar
>>47274559
You're doing the Emperor's work, heretic.
Imperial navy basic upgrade setup in order of importance:
AP
Power ram
+100HP
+100SP
If you have upgrades left after those use them as you like.
I must be doing something wrong, most of the time I just force forward facing, lock on and hope for the best while going full speed.
>>47274440
Can't find the picture, but here's the Lex' article on it.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/War_of_Dakka
"As the battle in the Farsight Enclaves escalated, Grog embarked on his most cunning plan yet. Utilizing the concept of "retreat", something nearly unheard of in Ork "Kultur, Grog managed to overextend the aggressive Tau hunter-killer teams and crush them in a bloody ambush. Pursuing the retreating Tau back to their base, the Orks looted and pillaged even more of the Tau's impressive arsenal and become an even greater threat. The tide of the war had turned decisively in the Orks' favour."
So yeah, the Tau do retreat. Given that this was after Farsight ordered an attack and they got ambushed, it stands to reason that this wasn't a neat and clean retreat.
>>47274908
Not like that. I meant chickening out at the inconvenience of everyone on their side.
I can't get this fucking game to run. I know asking for technical advice here is asking for me to be ridiculed, but I'm desperate at this point.
>>47275412
pray to machine spirit
>>47275412
This >>47275471
Did you have enough holy incense and hymns?
>>47275124
Kill an ethreal
>Aun Ra'uar! No! ALL IS LOST
Mandatory ethereal bonus/kill penalty on tau flag ships wiuld be hilarious
>>47275674
Dear God Emperor Urist yes.
>Open steam and hope the game updates
>nothing
>Check steam forum for any news from the devs
>nothing
>Check the BFG:A forums
>nothing
This is going to end like the devs' last game, isn't it?
>>47276426
Space Marine update is scheduled for June, and they posted a schedule on the steam forums on the 13th.
>>47276426
its only been a couple of days since they last talked about what they'd do, dude.
>>47276536
>schedule was posted on the 13th
It's already felt like an eternity.
Why would you remind me, anon?
>>47276581
Because it is a good pain
>>47276581
I just want to see the other Imperial ships added to the game.
Is that too much to ask?
>>47276547
The problem is there's still a bunch of blatant, glaring bugs still present or newly introduced with the last patch.
Balance and expansion aside they game is still pretty outright broken. The lack of bugfixes this week made me pretty unhappy. Fortunately stellaris came out.
Unfortunately the total lack of weapon balance and non-functional war goal system is starting to get on my nerves with that one.
>>47269357
Amen. I'm stuck on the campaign priority mission to plant beacon on warboss' ship via boarding.
My fleet gets 400 or 500 points. Orks have wall of battleshits and battlecruisers between me and the adm. Ship target.
>>47278498
Fire ships though took out a kroozer and some escorts with a couple
>>47269802
Lance upg. Tanking upg's. Then laugh as your D's murderise stasis bomb'd eldar like the faggy elfderps they are.
>from 15k away
>>47278523
That's the mission before. That's a nirmal data acq. Which is still retardedly imbalanced. The next mission you have to get past 50 million points of ork bc's and bs's to get <3k from the admiral ship (spawned in the extreme corner of the map) and then force it to run away into the warp.
>>47278605
Had problem with it too. I killed him several times before he get to escape. It's not hard to board him, it's hard not to kill him before he get to you.
Seriously, one time he died in asteroid field and other time he eat too much torpedoes before fight started and exploded sooner than my ship boarded him.
And you don't have to fight all his fleet, board him and damage him enough for him to escape that it. Victory.
>>47269692
You fucking hit the red button, taunt and traktor them into your face, literally the same thing you do against any opponent as orks. You've got way more to worry about from carrier eldar than pulsar eldar.
>>47278664
That's my point i cannot get past his 5:1 at least fleet to get to him. Fucker keeps spawning in the corner of the map whilst his fleets spawn inside my asshole. So <5mins in I'm board'd to crits.
Am I supposed to spend a gorrillion renown just to respec my fleet for this fight?
>>47278699
And they still outspeed me.
>>47278770
You don't have enough traktors.
>>47278765
If you didn't go full ramming/torpedo maybe you should.
>>47278778
1~3 at time. Is tractors on bigger ship pull harder?
>>47278804
Fml.
I built my fleet to counter orks close range dickery, elderps and chaos' ranged dickery with ranged fighting.
My ships are 6-9k brawlers with plasma macros etc. Ordnance. Torps i got but orks seem to ignore torp spam and bomber /ass boat spam. Whereas my ships keep getting critt'd from ork tellyporta atttacks. As in the ai NEVER FAILS a rng roll. Ever.
>>47278908
Belt armor son
>>47278886
No they don't, but bigger ships have more skill slots, which allows you to have more taunt + induction cells + teleport.
Given how almost all ork ships have the same speed bigger = better for catching eldar because each ship has more tools available.
>>47278920
I'll try that.
>>47278924
Yeh, bigger also more expensive.
Seriously, in campaign when i hit lvl 6 admiral i had all slots and ships ungraded, maybe not all favors but whatever. In multiplayer i hit 6 and i have nothing, how so?
>>47279033
In the campaign you win all mission with minimal to no losses. Not so in the mp, meaning you get less renown per xp.
Last time i played assassination both of my ship were destroyed but in result screen they show up and heavily damaged instead, it's bug?
>>47279419
I thought renew is exp.
>>47279524
That's a bug.
Not one I'm complaining about, mind you.
>>47279757
Too bad, i wish ships some times survive. 2 turns is too much, and losing exp from match too.
Which is better, the Dauntless Mk1 or Mk2? I really like the torps on the mk2, and can't really see why you'd pick a single lance over them.
>>47278605
Full navigator dauntless with void shield over load.
Snag data, overload, warp out.
>>47279899
I like both, and they each have a niche. I use the lance variant for pursuit and escort culling, since the lance gives it reliable medium range damage that doesn't require any fiddling or course adjustments, just burn and fire.
>>47272683
i think i go with silver barrels even on the tiny point defence turrets, than a light wash and an allaround light light drybrush with purpel and maaaaaybe light pink highlights. want to keep the fade between purple/black
>>47280405
Planning to tip the barrels with any different colors?
The purple sounds good, especially with the gold, maybe keep those colors close to contrast them, the pink I like the sound of. How do you plan on applying that, just here and there or some sort of specific pattern?
>>47279033
Don't worry as orks once you get your 3 light cruisers all with Evil Sunz favors on them you'll be rolling imperial players so fast you'll have mad spacebux to spend.
>>47280732
I got tractor beams on them.
>>47272119
That white needs a few more layers. It's a bit faint, especially compared to the purple or gold.
>>47280755
That is the Evil Sunz
There's something cathartic about running a Desolator, two Acherons, and a scout/cocktease Slaughter as Slaanesh
>enemy spotted
>BZZZZZZZAP*BOOM*
>enemy spotted
>BZZZZZZZAP*BOOM*
>enemy BB spotted
>BZZZZZZZAP BZZZZZZZAP *MUTINY*
>>47280982
Then i'm good. But i still missing battlecruiser slot, and upgrades for big ships, don't have renow for that.
How good are squadron on orks? Should i go full squadron on sides? Or front double zap cannot?
>>47281054
Orky BCs are kind of crap for points. Zzap boats are neat, but they don't have the volume of fire to really melt shit and forgoe the orky advantage of being monstrously good at boarding and ramming. Still, having one helps. As does having one carrier for fighter cover. If you're a madboy, load a 6-bay battleship (which is the most launch bays on anything in the gorkdamn game) and giggle as your opponents go wot da zog.
>>47281151
Well i have one half carrier, so i think im fine.
Was thinking to remove torpedo and make two 145 points battle-cruisers to use it for 300 point's. But that probably stupid idea.
I really have no idea what i need to do with battleship. But it's too early for that anyway.
>>47281151
One thing to note is that an Ork carrier cruiser can have four bays, the same as Imperial and Chaos carrier battleships. Which is extremely handy for both fighter coverage and putting out a surprisingly meaty bomber sortie.
I will make a Deff Skwadron fleet for mp sometime this week and post progress if anyone's interested.
>>47281216
Don't do half carriers. Either take a CL with two bays and torpedoes for that, or make a four bay CC if you want something more substantial. Going half and half creates a chaotic mess, which, while very Orky, is not that effective compared to a more focused design.
>>47281234
Well it's done and i don't have spare renew to remake it.
>>47281217
Please do ya glorious zogging boy!
>>47265123
You're assuming anything will replace them and they won't just have them.
>>47281264
Excuse the quality, I'm using a very Orky computer atm.
>>47281337
I have a level 4 Ork Admiral with full grot launcher s and blood axes favor for the nova kannon on everything.
I named the ships after the superweapons in Ace Combat (Megalith, Spiridus etc.) and i roleplay as the DEFF SKWADRONZ OF RAZGRIZ all the while
>>47281337
It worked surprisingly well. Of course the other CL insubordinated after literally plowing through two Hellebores, but these boyz put in some real work.
>>47281418
dem solar sails
>>47281418
>Elves on fire
>Sails on fire
>Burning burning with desire
>>47281439
In the words of a wise man: 'slow panzee, ded panzee'.
>>47281387
I worry about putting a nova on light carriers. You don't have any guns other than your torpedo tubes, so if/when the nova blows up you're down to just boarding and bombers.
>>47281493
Don't, then. I'm keeping the boarding torpedoes to complement my boarding pods to complement my boarding actions. Running a carrier fleet doesn't necessitate unorky tactics.
>>47281517
What favor would you recommend for an ork light carrier fleet then? Shock Attack Cannon for even more boarding and range? Or just traktor 'cos it's the best?
>>47281615
They all have their merits.
Goffs because nobody fucking expects a carrier fleet to ram and board the everloving shit out of them.
Evil Sunz because it's the best.
Bad Moons because that upgrade might save your life and allows for shenanigans like asteroid shields.
It's all about options. Or just do what proper boyz do and have a motley collection of ships each doing their own thing.
Are orks zap cannot always hit eldars?
>>47281670
zaps are lances, and therefore shit against holofields
>>47281670
Zzap cannons are lances. As such, homofields have full effect on them, up to 80% miss chance.
>>47281678
>>47281682
Ok, no zap cannons then. How about heavy cannons on sides, are they good vs eldars?
>>47281670
Eldar holofields (at maximum) reduce macro accuracy by 50% and Lances by 80%.
Since Ork macro accuracy goes 75% - 50% - 25% - 0%, this becomes 37.5% - 25% - 12.5% - 0%.
Whereas Zzaps go from 100% down to 20%
Don't use lances against Eldar ya git.
>>47281694
If you can keep your slow, ponderous rustbuckets within 3 to 6 k of the most agile ships in the game and have the range upgrade, yes. Otherwise just load up on escorts or bring a carrier.
>>47281741
Bombers don't suffer from halo shields?
>>47281793
Nope, and neither do assault boats. A lot of elf player will have fighter cover, though, in the form of darkstar squadron.
How do I use nova cannons properly? About half the time I fire one it scatters right off the target and hits nothing at all.
>>47281862
Shot in direction they facing a bit before them, usually lands.
>>47281482
Hammerfall isn't very orky, though. Unless it's WoW orcs.
>>47281862
1) Fire them at close range. Like torpedoes, while they can work at long range, they're far better at the minimum distance. Generally you've got enough time while everyone advances to get one shot at long range and then one at minimum.
2) Stasis them first. Stasis pairs well with Nova and Micro-Warp: pin them with a stasis, warp backwards and fire into their faces. Best against a foe that likes closing in, like Orks and Imperials.
3) Fire lots of Novas at once. The Dominator is a fine cruiser, and two of them plus a Mars will let you annihilate escort waves with impunity. Three circles are harder to dodge than one.
>>47282113
One nova cannon useless anyway, since it's only remove shield that will recharge at close time anyway. Well they good vs eldars, they don't have shields and it's actually does damage to them.
>>47281694
I just bring two cruisers and a massive pile of onslaughts. The cruisers are just there to taunt and Traktor the eldar into the onslaughts.
>>47281217
DO IT
Wonder when will they fix the bug where my fifth skill goes missing from time to time.
>>47273636
In campaign their strike cruiser is just a tyrant with a different skin and a magical launch bay
Just finished the campaign and started a Chaos Fleet.
What's the best option to buy for my first cruiser ? My two light cruisers are fairly fragile and have quite a long range so I was thinking maybe a brawler to keep my opponent busy. What would be the best ship for the job ? Also, what equipment should I give him ?
>>47284044
Carnage or Slaughter. Slaughter is riskier fast brawler while Carnage is safer and a good Eldar repellent.
Devastation and Murder are not worth it.
>>47284101
Thanks, Carnage it is then.
>>47284101
I agree the Murder isn't worth it, but for a all-carriers-all-the-time fleet I find a single Devastation is worth having.
Often you'll find a few points left over when selecting you're fleet, and those points can be either used to bring an escort (and Chaos ones aren't very good at all) or upgrade a Hellbringer to a Devastation. No loss in launch bays, but with a few nice lances on top and an extra skill slot for more stasis'ing or probes. That skill slot and damage is worth the slight loss in speed I find.
>>47281835
not that it helps them that much
Any tips for a starting Eldar fleet in multiplayer?
I'm surprise how fragile eldar ships are. So used to Imperial Navy and Orks.
>>47285211
staggered pulsars then run?
>>47285181
Darkstar is great for dealing with carrier fleets.
>>47285538
good thing I dont play carriers
>>47285211
Get Auroras, give them the range upgrade, fire za lazor manually at blips from 12k, then vaul, rinse, and repeat until level 8.
>>47285783
Remember to collect all the salt you create.
>>47286924
>tfw no salt sculpture crafted from multiplayer tears
EVERY MINUTE NOT SPENT PLAYING MULTIPLAYER IS ANOTHER MINUTE IN WHICH YOUR OPPONENTS ARE LEVELLING UP THEIR SHIPS
PLAY MULTIPLAYER RIGHT NOW
DO NOT FALL INTO THE RENOWN CYCLE
Quick question, what does the game count as "hidden"?, is it when you are a red blip or do you have to disappear off the map completely, like in a nebula or asteroid field?
>>47287113
Silent running hides your blip.
>>47287113
There are three states: Identified, Blip, and Hidden.
Passing into an enemies sensor range (or a probe, or Inquisition skill, ect) Identifies your ship. Most targeted abilities (lightning strike, Ork tracktors, etc) can only be shot at an identified ship. This overrides the other conditions.
Silent Running or being in a Nebula make you Hidden (you can also get it various other ways, such as staying still with the Aliatoc favor). A hidden ship does not appear on the map at all, and cannot be targeted by anything.
Anytime a ship stops being hidden, but isn't within Sensor Range of an enemy either, it becomes a Blip. Blips are visible on the map, but have no identifying features and can only be targeted by a few skills, though they can still be hit by everything that targets an area (ie Auger Disruptor).
None of this stops a player figuring out where you are from your strike-craft flight, or turrets shooting at torpedoes.
>>47287809
Thanks man, really helpful.
>>47287037
DEFF SKWADRON COMETH
...slowly. Breaking the established paradigm in half is hard to get used to.
>>47284590
This. Double Slaughter and one Devastation is the light and the way.
So what can we expect from the Space Marine fleet? Going by the light cruiser we see in the campaign, they have 75 armour all round, same shield, HP and speed, slightly faster turning speed, a macro battery, a macro turret and a launch bay. Seems better than a dauntless but maybe they'll cost more.
>>47255837
sexy as fug, anon, keep us posted on the progress. I like 'em a lot.
>>47289014
Omnirape escorts and customizable or made up cruisers and up.
>>47289014
The Macro turret they get is a Bombardment Cannon. It's like the frontal massive gun Orks can swap torpedoes out for, but with a 270 arc. Huge damage, macro accuracy, short(ish) range.
>When you're playing against eldar and three of the blips suddenly stop moving at full speed and inch towards your fleet
>>47289282
Cool. Wondering how they'll balance it out without just making them cost a bomb
>leveling IN fleet, just unlocked cruiser slot
>2v2, IN+IN v IN+Chaos
>game starts, ally is eldar not IN, still has logo for IN
>enemy is actually Chaos+Orks, only find out after i close in
>eldar ally sees one brute get within 12k and 180s to the closest gas cloud
>get raped while ally stays hidden
>he starts to warp out as soon as cooldown is over
>says that i have a deathwish in text chat
>mfw
Fucking knife-ears. Anyone else have the wrong logo show up for other players?
>>47289442
Sometimes.
Doing my first campaign run. Should I be taking an overlord or a mars as my first battle cruiser? I already have a support specced Dictator for fighters. Is it worth having more than one carrier?
>>47289824
Double Tyrant, double Overlord, and Retribution is the surest way into the Emperor's Light.
May He ever guide your guns.
>>47289442
Perfidious are the Eldar, trust them not!
>>47289824
Mars is great if you want to remove Eldar.
Which you should be doing.
>>47283376
About the time they release the space marine DLC.
They seem to be done with patches for now.
>>47289442
I hope you ram him the next time you meet him
Why iz orkz best?
>>47293392
Rams and traktor meta.
>>47287037
I wish i could play but i don't have time. Came after work, watched episode Game of Thrones and played half hour of new DOOM multiplayer and that it. Sad life.
>>47289293
plz nerf
>>47289293
Fire torpedoes and MWJ away.
>>47285211
>>47296257
Dis matey
>tfw you level'd 10 everything in your fleet
NEW CONTENT WHEN?
>>47297119
But have you level-ten'd EVERY fleet?
>>47285211
Abuse Vaul and MWJ all the time.
>>47297319
actually yes
>>47281929
>>47282113
>>47282246
I gave this a shot and it's working a lot better for me, thanks. I get the distinct impression that it's better to specialize your fleet instead of having one of everything. I had to restart my campaign because I spent too much time switching between ship types to try them out.
Other that maximum nova artillery and maximum carrier power what are some other themes I could try out? Is it viable to focus on macrocannons or maybe torpedoes+ramming?
Also what kind of light cruiser do you guys prefer for Imperials? The lance takes far less micromanagement to use than the torpedoes but at the same time the ship has most of it's power broadside and rarely uses it's lance most of the time.
>>47297630
>or maybe torpedoes+ramming?
By far most overpowered in campaign, since most of your enemy is chaos and eldars controlled by AI. Not so good but still viable in MP.
