Pathfinder General - /pfg/
"Bullying" the Wizard Edition
Unified /pfg/ link repository:
>http://pastebin.com/YhdxTQS6
Ultimate Intrigue leaks:
>classes: http://imgur.com/a/tlwEX
>feats: http://imgur.com/a/PA4eT
>items: http://imgur.com/a/RzJiF
Previous Thread:
>tfw you will never be princess carried
>>46489824Blue board.
Tell me about the strangest things your characters have ever cooked, /pfg/!
Run out of chicken and substituted frogs? Made dumplings with mosquito-paste filling? Fermented owlbear milk used to make a cream icing for a pastry?
>>46489824
I'd rather have Megumin try to bully me.
>>46489875
Not a princess, but
>>46489875
Not with that attitude, Anon!
Does /pfg/ like Thick, armored girls or Thick-armored girls?
Feast your eyes, /pfg/, on the build of an actual insane person!
Kobold! Kineticist/chained-monk gestalt! No archetypes! Real names, no gimmicks!
>http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheet.html#id=771262
Please rate/advise, I've spent too much of my life on this dumb joke build and I'm fully overcommitted.
Hey /pfg/, I have a Clerical question.
Has anyone here had any experience with Variant Channeling, or have at lease either used or gone over it? What are your thoughts on it, and is it worth it for only 1/2 heal/damage? Or is it essentially pic related?
>>46489925
Thick-armored.
The girl who survives to the end is Best Girl by process of elimination.
>>46489932
>worshippers_of_groetus.jpg
>>46489824
I want "bully" Megumin every nightas109 doujin when??
>>46489926...Dare I ask what's being practiced?
>>46489675
I have one (based barrister babe)
One's a bloody tiefling snowflake who got visited by a devil when she was 10.
The other isn't enough of a patriot for the tone of campaign I'm going for.
The blaster is a blaster and is going to have a miserable time because she's a blaster among PoW characters. She's not even an Opped blaster, just Admixture.
Link, for those who care: http://www.myth-weavers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=36896&tg=62912
>>46489895
Did she treat him like a princess later that night? Or did he.
Why doesn't your party use Nap Stack at every opportunity?
>>46489925
Why not both?
That thick-armor must be concealing the Paladin's womanly body.
>>46489925
Both
>>46489925
Do musclegirls count as a subset of Thick, or are they considered separate?
>>46489925
Thick-armored girls.
The Paizo book coming out at the end of the month should give them more options.
>>46489925
I like them slim and sassy!
>>46489824
>>46489893
>>46489986
>KonoSuba Victim Girls Doujin soon
>The wait is killing me
>>46489986
>as109
What is that? All I can find on Google is moonrunes
>>46489925
Heavy armor, not heavy meat!
Fat fetishists pls go
>>46489824
Why bully? No bully please.
>>46490083
Lolis raped so hard they start to enjoy it.
Or they enjoy it from the get-go and are feigning disliking it. Or are having wet-dreams about being raped. Some of it is unclear.
>>46490095
Sweet jebus, somebody feed this girl.
>>46490083
An artist, most likely.
>>46490060
God, I love smugadin so much.
>>46490044
Let's be honest, anon. Lightning will not strike twice. The AMH is going to be shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.
>>46490083
search it on sadpanda. He's an artist fond of rape, confinement and stockholm-syndroming lolis. Art is excellent too.
I found a weird use for the Cirque de la Fumee benefit.
A Warder or other reachtank using reach polearms can use the Cirque benefit to ignore folks getting inside his reach by bouncing his spear off their skull with Piercing Thunder's throwing attacks at point blank range.
>tfw every rejection you get weakens your connection to PF, and tabletop in general, more and more
It feels so great. I'm taking longer breaks from making builds, and I'm growing an interest in other things again! I haven't even touched PF in months, and now I'm back to another glorious vacation from it! Total freedom is almost at hand for me, brothers. Witness me!
>>46490044
>The Paizo book coming out at the end of the month should give them more options.
>still having faith in Paizo
>>46490150
Weapon handbook was good, why not armor?
>>46490133
Except that's a thing you can already do as a Zweihander Sentinel, and there is no better archetype for dudes who want to polearm/spear motherfuckers.
>>46490138
Godspeed, anon. May you ride to Normalfag Valhalla, shiny and chrome.
>>46490060
Thanks for giving me the character art for my next Warder.
Or Paladin, either or.
>mfw my reach for AoOs is 15 feet and reach for attacks at 10 feet
>mfw I can shift my stance as a swift action and turn that into 20 feet AoO
God I love Zweihander Sentinel mixed with Landsknecht.
>>46490156
What was good? It buffed Fighter a tiny bit (and pretended not to, like they think anyone would choose more weapon groups over semi-class-features) and then added more trash feats with too many requirements to the ocean of them.
>>46489895
Lot of anger in it
>>46490225
bruh
better have Ricochet Shell at the very least, so you can bounce your fucking weapon off motherfuckers while keeping one hand tucked in a pocket.
I love making enemies with a gimmick. However when I do this players always seem to get wrecked by it. By gimmick I mean enemies who have something they are good at, and when engaging the party they try and engage them on terms that play to their gimmick.
This however doesn't even cover dragons. My players haven't been able to kill an adult dragon or older in fucking forever.
What are your thoughts on Divine Defender?
Are there any stances that increase movement speed?
>>46490138
>implying you'll ever be free
When you're a /pfg/er, you're a /pfg/er all the way. From the first time you roll, to the last TPK.
>My players got bored of my campaign after a year
>I'm experiencing burnout myself
>been hosting a heavy political campaign for a while
>ask players what they want to play
>they vote for something like Disney's 'Road to El Dorado' mixed in with 'Zootopia' and 'Assassin's Creed'
Fuck. I hate singing. My players love to sing. I just can't. Help me, /pfg/
>>46490366
Running Hunter Stance, a first level Primal Fury stance.
>>46490392
Any that aren't an enhancement bonus?
>>46490417
Not a clue! Probably not.
>>46490391
>they vote for something like Disney's 'Road to El Dorado' mixed in with 'Zootopia' and 'Assassin's Creed'
So, something like being Assassins in a Spanish Age of Sails Era game wherein everyone is a fucking furry? Also lots of singing?
>>46490391
But anon, music is good for you!
>>46490391
Make the campaign about a downtrodden world ruled by song-hating aristocrats (or mind flayers or whatever). The party has to use their... I guess singing abilities, singing animals (?), and violently murderous tendencies (?) to defeat the [DRAMATIC NUMBER] of Big Bad Music Haters.
>>46490391
The players need to become gods.
Mighty and powerful gods.
>>46490442
>So, something like being Assassins in a Spanish Age of Sails Era game wherein everyone is a fucking furry? Also lots of singing?
RUNNIN' DOWN TO CUBA WITH A LOAD O' SUGAR
>>46490462
Caiden Cailean, go home you're drunk again.
>>46490330
Dude, why go with Ricochet Shell when I can grab Cornered Frenzy Strike and hit *every person in my threatened area* with an attack that gets +4d6?
That threatened area being as much as 20 feet?
And, since I've got Landsknecht, I'm already threatening as much as 20 feet even before weapons are drawn?
My character can literally go from sword-in-sheath to cutting down an entire mob of enemies in 6 seconds flat.
>>46490391
Pick up some shanties. Everyone loves shanties, and even if you sing like shit, it doesn't matter, because the kind of people who sing shanties aren't necessarily people who can sing.
>>46490446
Attaboy, anon.
>>46490462
One of these days, I will watch that movie. One of these days.
>>46490541
Because you can have both. Also because Tossing your sword at motherfuckers and having it unerringly bounce back to you is fantastic.
>>46490095
She still needs enough meat to move the armor.
>>46490121
>>46490150
I have more faith in their player companions than in their hardcover books.
>>46490495
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_fBEfWOKF8&list=PLGA7ewcGz4KK7ZZD0wrvDPKPvxkKQVK5H&index=42
>>46490548
COME ALL YOU YOUNG SAILOR MEN LISTEN TO ME
I'LL SING YOU A SONG OF THE FISH IN THE SEA
>>46490541
So you're Dynasty Warrior now?
>>46490625Zweihander Sentinel 6 / Landscknecht 4, actually.
>>46490442
Something like that. They already prepped their characters.
Catfolk female Rogue (The roguish, coquettish, charitable pickpocket)
Kitsune female Bard (The money-grubbing, silver-tongued face)
Boar male Barb (The glutinous, kind-hearted dumb muscle)
Tengu male Paladin (The stick-up-his-ass lawful, valiant, acrobatic conquistador)
>>46490592
I recognize those IM@S's!
Additionally, I hope you're right. Another book where Paizo doesn't royally screw the pooch will be a good thing, but they'll surely be back to it with the next one.
>>46490640
Too bad there are no one-handed reach weapons that aren't whips.
>>46490690
>Too bad there are no one-handed reach weapons that aren't whips.
>Piercing Thunder.jpg
>>46490687
Anon, this is Disney as FUCK.
Please tell me your BBEG is some evil Mayan Jaguarfolk Oracle and his army of bad juju skeletons dancing to 'thriller'
>>46490712
At first I was going to say this wouldn't work because of Scarlet Throne Style, but then I looked at the description of that feat again and it says the weapon simply needs to be one-handed, not a one-handed weapon.
You can totally Scarlet Throne Style a spear for that delicious 20 foot AoO and 15 foot attack radius.
Only problem is you gotta stay in that stance, otherwise it doesn't work.
>>46490687
Jeez. Might as well be playing Ironclaw at this point, paisan. Still, best of luck to you.
>>46490687
No Skald?
>>46490690
>Too bad there are no one-handed reach weapons that aren't whips.
Weapon design rules anon.
One-handed Martial: 7 DP
Weapon Feature (Reach): -1 DP
Improved Damage x4 (1d8): -4 DP
Spring-Loaded: -2 DP
>>46490712
I suppose that's true, but I hate being restricted to a single stance.
>>46490778
If the weapon has reach and the stance lets you wield it in one hand, you have 20' reach on all your attacks, AoOs and otherwise. Shit would be pretty hype.
>>46490807
Genius!
>>46490791
Nope.
>>46490738
The actual BBEG is a court of religious militant owls who wants to conquer the world for God, Gold and Glory. But I like your jib.
Oh, and I'm thinking of just reskinning the existing races in the pfsrd into animalfolk. Could /pfg/ help out by throwing in some suggestion?
>>46490854
There's also the Stupendous Strength feat, which allows one-handing of two-handers freely.
>>46490854
>you have 20' reach on all your attacks, AoOs and otherwise.
Wait, really? Superior Reach adds +5 feet to all attacks, but Defensive Reach only gives you +5 feet to AoOs.
If a spear is a weapon with 10 foot reach, this means 15 feet standard attack and 20 feet AoO.
>>46490875
>I'm thinking of just reskinning the existing races in the pfsrd into animalfolk
That kind of treads into dangerously furryElves are cats because they're assholes who think they're better than everyone else
So... Avenger Vigilante who only select Combat Skill talent is pretty much a better fighter?
The downside is d8 hp but you get 6+INT skill, a lot of class skill, social stuff and 2 good saves?
>>46490875
>Oh, and I'm thinking of just reskinning the existing races in the pfsrd into animalfolk. Could /pfg/ help out by throwing in some suggestion?
Humans are obviously any sort of animal
Orcs are gorillas and apes. Maybe pitbulls too because fangs.
Elves are lizards
Dwarves are boars and pigs and maybe hippos as well
Halflings are hamsters
>>46490879
That's true, but I can imagine that feat rubbing most DMs the wrong way. It's not like it's really strong or anything, but that doesn't change the fact that it'll likely rectumravage a lot of grognards.
>>46490899
You have +5 from reach, +5 from landsknecht... oh wait, you're right. Dango. Guess I was thinking of something else. Carry on!
>>46489824
Megumin looks like she desperately needs to pee or something. Is the "bullying" related to that?
>>46490949
>Halflings are hamsters
>Hamsters
>Not Terriers
>>46490981
What are these witches even from? I'm really confused because I don't know if there's multiple or not.
>>46491006
"kono subarashii sekai ni shukufuku wo!" aka "konosuba"
>>46491006
>What are these witches even from?
A clan of best girls who are all chuunis
>>46491049
I want to bully ALL OF THEM.
>>46491049
If I watched this show I think my favourite would be required to be Patchy on the right, because there's no way I'm gonna be able to tell anyone else apart.why yes I am disabled, how did you know!
![[Chihiro]_Kono_Subarashii_Sekai_ni_Shukufuku_wo!_-_02_[720p_Hi10P_AAC][4592E6ED].mkv_snapshot_09.15_[2016.02.14_23.08.06].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/83esX9N.jpg "[Chihiro]_Kono_Subarashii_Sekai_ni_Shukufuku_wo!_-_02_[720p_Hi10P_AAC][4592E6ED].mkv_snapshot_09.15_[2016.02.14_23.08.06].jpg")
>>46491105
Chuuni Prime also wears an eyepatch sometimes though
>>46491105
I'd just go with whichever one of them happens to be wearing the cool hat at the time.
>>46491049
>>46491121
Why do they all have red eyes if they aren't albino?
>>46491121
FUCK
>>46491105
>>46491131
Sadly, the rest of them aren't in the show. They're probably in the LNs the show is based on, though.
Also, Megumin has singularly made me want to play a blaster caster.Probably as a Kineticist Psion with Overchannel.
>>46491105
>>46491131
They all have the Eyepatch and Hat as part of their chuuni tradition.
>>46491143
It's a fantasy world, why can they cast EXPLOSIONS
>>46489932
Is it too presumptuous to bump this question? It got drowned out by cheesecake.
>>46491181
There's like... one type of Variant Channeling that I heard was good, but fuck if I remember what is was. There's probably a guide out there somewhere.
>>46491181
>objecting to cheesecake
>ever
REEEEEEEEEEE YOU BAKA CHEESECAKE IS GOD AND ANYONE WHO DISLIKES SPAMMING VAGUELY PEDOPHILIC WEEBSHIT IS A FAGGOT REEEEEEEE
>>46491181
There are guides, anon. Some Variant channeling are really good (One of them even grants pseudo-haste which is irrelevant because you have haste in your spellbook) Just pick the one you think works mechanically best for the party.
>>46491228
okay relax
>>46491181
>>46491210
The Hangover cleric?
http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?243016-Hangover-Cleric-Build-amp-Handbook-PF&p=13218094#post13218094
>>46491228
>inb4 Adult World
>>46491181
Don't get Variant Channeling. Its shit and most of the buff it offers is nothing compared to the buffs you can grant with your spells instead.
>>46491181
I'm not really heavy on clerics, but it seems more useful for a NE-channel cleric to be able to do some spot healing. Nothing big, but in a pinch when the damage isn't cutting it or if you're dealing with undead and didn't prepare spells for it. Seems like it would fall off way harder later on though.
>>46491257DISTANT WORLD
>>46491228
>implying I dislike it
I actually am Nuetral towards the whole thing, I'm just slightly miffed that the question got lost
>>46491266
Ignore me, I thought you were talking about that thing that lets you channel both Positive and Negative Energy.
>>46491228
A D U L T W O R L D
D U L T W O R L D A
U L T W O R L D A D
L T W O R L D A D U
T W O R L D A D U L
W O R L D A D U L T
O R L D A D U L T W
R L D A D U L T W O
L D A D U L T W O R
D A D U L T W O R L
Also, calm your tits.
>>46491251
Maybe?
>>46491261
How often do you actually use Channel, anyway. Might as well do something useful with it.
>>46491297
>How often do you actually use Channel, anyway.
After combat if some of the party are at half their full HP.
Not during combat though - its stupid to waste a turn on healing rather than casting a disabling spell to shutdown the offender.
>>46490981
...I haven't watched the show so I don't know if it's canonical, but judging by some of the art on danbooru this looks like it's probably actually the case.
>>46491257
>>46491297
>tfw you're not in on the joke
>>46491181
Some of them are good, most of them are awful. Get Selective Channeling, or whatever the feat is that lets you exclude specific targets from your channel, and then you could spam Rulership, Luck, or Freedom Harm Channels seems like the best choices. In any case though, you'll need to pump that save high because none of these effects apply on a successful save. You'll probably want to take Ability Focus (Channeling).
>>46491355
I mean, I guess? I've never seen a Cleric use spells offensively (not counting battlefield control) outside of like... Hold Person? To each his own, I suppose.
>>46491366
The protag has a spell called Steal that is supposed to work like the average Rogue ability. Instead, it teleports a person's panties into his hand. She's probably trying to protect herself against it.
>>46491446
There was an anon who was ranting for like three fucking threads after a guy used "baka" in one of his posts, about how that shit doesn't fly in adult world. It was simultaneously hilarious and fucking annoying as shit.
>>46491462
Don't you mean Improved Channel?
>>46491472
>The protag has a spell called Steal that is supposed to work like the average Rogue ability. Instead, it teleports a person's panties into his hand.
Now how do we build a PF version of this?
>>46491482
No, I meant Ability Focus, but luckily for you, they stack with each other. At that point though, you're three feats in, so it's a lot of build currency invested.
Probably worth it for being able to do something like potentially daze or slow all enemies next to you while also dealing some minor damage, though.
>>46490369
The more I try the more I realize the futility of effort and the randomness of existence. Zyphus was right all along, there's no meaning to anything, it's all a joke and we're one overly wet floor away from sudden and pointless demise.
>>46491585
>no meaning to anything
Bollocks, fight for their smile!And be excellent at the same time!
>>46491633
no
shoo shoo slimy limey, fight for your IRL waifu and children before immigrants get to them
>>46491585
Stop it Sivanah, I'm in a good mood today.
>>46491668
Limeys don't fight though, they just apologise and submit.
>>46491585
IT
ALL
RETURNS
TO
NOTHING
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rcmeMxxGYw
>>46491505
Wasn't there a spell in Ultimate Intrigue that does exactly that? You can teleport-steal an item into your hand?
>>46490369
>zyphus priest Draw Your Party will never get updated
>>46491763
Good, that party single-handedly killed those threads.
>>46491740
I have no idea because I have not seen Ultimate Intrigue, but I guess Improved Steal would work if it's actually worth burning a feat on.
>>46491585
And you think that's reason to give up? Fuck that noise! If existence is a joke, make it one worth laughing at! If you can die suddenly and pointlessly, live fully and happily!
Some people ask "why bother?" Me? I ask "why the FUCK NOT?!"
>>46491585
Why didn't Zyphus turn into Sithrak?
Like, shouldn't the god of pointless death tell his followers to live as long as possible, because no matter how miserable you are now it's just going to get worse?
>>46491505
Isn't there a psionic power that teleports an object to your hand? If it's attended the owner probably gets a will save or something.
How good are the team-focused maneuvers that come with Path of War Warlords? I'm more or less new to tabletop stuff and I like the concept of things like Circle the Prey or Warning Roar but I don't know if it would be extremely situational or regularly useful.
>>46491817
Well, he probably lived a lame life as a dirt farmer before dying, and then his afterlife was godhood.
So no, I don't think it got worse for him.
>>46491817
Becoming a god didn't give him an intelligence increase.
>>46491817
Because he's a spiteful old jerk. Groetus is more like Sithrak, at least in some of the Groetean demominations.
>>46491006
Megumin is from the anime Konosuba.
She's like one of those junior high/high school kids who acts all cool and mysterious and walks around wearing a trenchcoat or an eyepatch... except she actually does have super-powerful Explosion spells that can OHKO anything but high-level boss monsters.
But she's actually low-level and somehow got access to the spell just from having high base stats, so she can only use Explosion once per day and immediately collapses afterwards.
>>46491817
But anon, Sithrak is actually a pretty chill god.
Imagine if the next archetype for Armor Master's Handbook is a masochist paladin that actually likes taking hits.
>>46491866
As far as I can tell Golden Lion is one of the more middling disciplines compared to focusing on killing things as fast as possible, but it's still useful, not to mention a blast to buff people by shouting at them constantly.
>>46491817
No, because Zyphus's whole thing is that he's a petty jerk who doesn't actually care about people, rather he just wants everyone else to be just as miserable as him.
He's the Deific equivalent to salty spergs who turn off their LAN connection or destroy their game consoles when they are losing, followed by shouting "YOU DIDN'T WIN!". Or like people who will destroy or deface a car or piece of property because they can't have it.
Zyphus is basically That Guy of he became a God
>>46491886
>implying that's not a ruse
>>46489925
Thick, thickly armored.
>>46491276
Cool World!
>>46491883
Is this anime good enough to watch on a trip? Even if I'm anadult?
>>46491970
Yes, it was surprisingly good for what I expected from it.
>>46491908
GL isn't nearly as crazy in the damage department, but holy shit is it awesome to pretty much throw your friends around the battlefield, buff them, and generally act like a cool leader guy.
>>46491970
Yes.
>>46491866
Warning Roar has been regularly useful for me, and Hunting Party has been a pretty good source of damage, since "the other melee character in your party gets an extra attack" is a pretty solid damage boost, especially from a 1st level maneuver.
>>46491970
It's good for light entertainment. It's sort of like Slayers, aka "D&D as people actually play it" rather than "D&D as people imagine it", except with even less plot.
For example, the first episode includes a montage where the main character gets a part-time job as a construction worker, and then afterwards he goes "wait a minute! We were supposed to be adventuring and fighting monsters, why did we start working here?"
>>46491970
Its an anime about a party of D&D players
>masochist perverted paladin
>lowest INT possible cleric
>prepped-evocation-spells-only wizard
>dickass thief
>>46492115
I think I'd put Megumin as a Wilder, not a wizard.
Also she uses maximum Overchannel every time.
>>46491970
It's okay, but be aware of DEEN quality.
>>46491887
I thought ALL paladins were masochists that actually like taking hits.
>>46492135
>>46492153
>autism
nah
>>46492153
Partly true. Paladins just have a massive messiah complex. They WANT to get hurt in the service of others (Even if that really isn't necessary)
>>46492161
>not being autistic on 4chan
gb2lereddit
>>46491763
What are you talking about? The party with the Zyphus Priest is the only one that still gets updated.
>>46491774
Because it was there only one people cared about, that's what happens when only one group posts something new per thread.
Has anybody gotten to play the PoW Medic yet?
I'm torn between playing an unarchetyped Medic and an Angel of Mercy. Are two Medic's expertises and one level of Improved Triage worth resist 5 to fire/cold/elec/acid, constant Protection from Evil and a fly speed for class levels minutes/day? I hadn't planned on dipping into Silver Crane, but it will become an option.
>>46492135
Definitely a Wilder or a Sorcerer or w/e. They don't seem to study tomes and shit like a Wizard, and it seems the whole chuu2 clan just has inate EXPLOSION!s in their blood.
>>46492153
Nah, some of them are super-smiting archers or whatever.
>>46492201
Part of me thinks the reason those threads never got new content was because everyone halfway interested in making something for their party saw those extremely well-done images and thought, "shit, what's the point in even trying?"
And they're right. Why should you spend an hour or two drawing out your party when people will always be more busy gushing over the latest exploits of that party than even giving your party the time of day?
>>46492197
>Messiah Complex
Shit, that seems to be exactly what I got considering I love to be the guy taking hits for the party.
>>46492153
"Taking hits is the villain's job! Mine is delivering them!"
>>46492278
>extremely well-done
K E K
E
K
Tell me /pfg/,
Say I as a Wizard, through some reason that's not important to the discussion, were to gain access to a Domain to gain Casting from, but only up to 6th levels spells.
What Domains grant the best domain spells for such an instance? Assume Animal/Terrain Domains are also allowed.
>>46492322
>Those chicken legs
>Those spigot arms
>She's already got a head wound
Why doesn't she just lay down her arms and give herself as a hostage already?
>>46492346
>that image
Nah.
>>46492201
>The Oread Barbarian is mai waifu.
>>46492347
>hostage
Are there any Pathfinder rules for hostage-taking of nobles?
>>46492365
I don't plan on building him, that was just the best WIZARDS! Pic I have on my phone.
>>46492322
I fucking love when people fuck other people up with the hilt of their weapon. Why is the ZS Warder the only class that has actual support for this.
>>46492394
>Are there any Pathfinder rules for hostage-taking of nobles?
Land of the Linnorm Kings included a weregild system that is exactly that.
>>46492432
Somebody say murderstroke?
>>46492401
Here, have a better one.
>>46492201
>these winners meet Adivion Adrissant
Oh no will he succeed at something for once?
Does a martial disipline's favored weapon confer any other benefit besides allowing you to perform the disipline's maneuvers?
>>46492637
Unless it specifically says otherwise, any part of any discipline works with any weapon. Favored weapons are used by some feats and class features, iirc, but that's it.
>>46492637
Most of the time, you don't need a discipline weapon to perform the maneuvers unless it specifically says so.
The actual benefit you get is +2 to the save DCs of your maneuvers.
>>46492563
Thank you, now will you answer my question? Because otherwise, I was just planning on grabbing either Swamp and Wolf, or Swamp and Family
Don't hide it, /pfg/. Those of you who've ran/been in solo gameswhat was the premise? How did it go?
>Ex-vampire spawn out for redemption in Alkenstar City
>Dhampir forcibly recruited to an Ustalav Vampire Count's hunter order.
>>46492666
CHECKED, SATAN
But seriously though, does depend on if you want to focus on anything in particular. Swamp and Family are good for buffs/debuffs, although I'd prefer Community over Family myself.
>>46492701
Ask Touhoufag.
>>46492734
wat
>>46492570
>The Table wants to play Carrion Crown, so the DM has the Clerics kick it off by murdering the professor.
I wish my DM was that creative.
>>46492701
I was in a 1GM 2-PC game that turned solo when the other player got fed up with the GM and left.
Seeing how that campaign turned out, I think the other player made the smart choice.
>>46492775
Storytime
>>46492775
Tell, tell, tell
Lads, have you ever seen a PC or NPC suffer such an ignoble death that the DM couldn't help but try and wiggle out an excuse to keep them alive?
I heard you get penalties to damage when using an inappropriate object when trying to bypass hardness on objects. Is there a source for this?
>>46492940
Well, yes, hardness reduces damage, but if you mean other than that, no, it's bullshit.
>>46489886
One of my players bought a can of troll meat. Open the lid, slice off rounds, quickly replace the cap. Throw rounds into the frying pan immediately, or else the slice of troll meat starts to grow back
Have you made a character who uses the Create Demiplane spells?
>>46492985
I meant like... using an adamantine sword against a wall would have additional penalties because it's not the proper tool for breaking through a wall. Thank you! I haven't been able to find it so I was imagining I either misread it or the person was wrong.
>>46493020
Oh, that's what you mean. Yes, but it's GM discretion.
"Ineffective Weapons
Certain weapons just can't effectively deal damage to certain objects. For example, a bludgeoning weapon cannot be used to damage a rope. Likewise, most melee weapons have little effect on stone walls and doors, unless they are designed for breaking up stone, such as a pick or hammer."
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/damaging-objects
>>46493068
Thank you thank you!
>>46493068
>Likewise, most melee weapons have little effect on stone walls and doors, unless they are designed for breaking up stone, such as a pick or hammer."
Would it be safe to say that an axe could be used against a wooden door but useless against a stone wall, while a pick would be useful against a stone wall but not a wooden door?
What if they were made from Adamantine?
>>46493185
A pick would work fine against a wood door, wood splinters easily and you'd rip chunks out pulling the pick out of the door. But yeah, an axe wouldn't do much against a stone wall, even if it were adamantine. Problem is even a thin wall is 1 foot thick and a hewn stone wall is 3 feet thick. You need a pick or bludgeon to make an effective dent in that sort of thing.
Or a long adamantine blade that can cut all the way through the wall and make an opening, which an axe can't readily do.
>>46492701
>Gm wants to start a solo campaign with me, to help me get used to the system
>start RotRL, he makes the mistake of making it so we're the same level a "normal party" should be at any given point
>all goes well until we hit the goblin druid
>NPC cleric companion gets absolutely assraped by a binding spell, I'm playing a bloodrager because "haha, paizo AP, how bad could it be"
>kill the goblin druid with barely a sliver of life left after a string of absolutely abysmal rolls, feel safe
>remember that there is a fucking firepelt sitting right there, it jumps on cleric buddy
>cleric buddy fails every single possible save to do anything at all
>when I attempt to help, the firepelt gently nudges me and I immediately fall unconscious
And that's when I learned that next time I'm just going to play a summoner if I play another solo game.Or insist that we gestalt, and then gestalt with a class that has a companion creature.
>>46493285
Wait, you had half the party members at the same level? Of course you're fucked.
>>46493265
Adamantine, it totally would.
Adamantine ignores hardness less than 20. Anything under that, it mechanically cuts through like paper.
That's not saying that an adamantine club would work on a rope, but an adamanting axe would totally hack apart a stone wall.Basically this is why it's DM discretion
>>46493285
I suppose that might be alright if you viewed it as an 'AP: Hard Mode' game. If that wasn't intended, then yeah that sucks.
>>46493326
Ok let me explain: Stone wall is thicker than the axe
Axe cuts through part of stone wall
Nothing happens because a cut that doesn't go all the way through is insignificant
It's not a matter of whether or not you can cut it, it's a matter of the cut not doing anything.
>>46493405
And then you cut again at a different angle and the chunk falls out eventually. You still have to do enough damage to destroy the section of the wall.
>>46490072
I hope to see Aqua and that prosecutor chick in there... Along with those two servant chicks of Iris.
Somehow, Darkness would just not be right as a 'victim girl'... Unless she's the mastermind?
Wait. That's it. That would be perfect.
Lalatina turns Kazuma into the perfect husband by making him neglect her while she's forced to watch him break Aqua and prosecutor chick. He then shows just how far he's "fallen" by making tender love to Megumin right in front of her, shattering her heart into an endless orgasm.
... But right at the end, as he's about to spray all over Darkness' face, Komeko shows up and steals the kill!
>>46493445Disgusting
>>46493326
Important reminder: It ignores less than 20. Nothing 20 or above. If you have hardness 21, all of it applies. The adamantine does not reduce that to a 2.
>>46493313
>>46493345
The DM was afraid that if we kept the same exp track we'd just breeze through everything... Which I said was retarded and probably a mistake. I was right, and mentioned such a couple times, but I was having fun so I figured maybe it would be fine. Unfortunately he hasn't had time for another one, but maybe once his job schedule cools off we can either pick it back up or start fresh with another AP.
Maybe if I can convince the GM to do gestalt, I can do Synthesist||Promethean/Preservationist in order to get the best of both worlds. Maybe then I'll have the power toprotect that smile.RIP qt3.14 middle aged elf cleric, you were the mother my bloodrager never had.
Is mad monkeys the best spell, or just the best 3rd-level spell?
>>46490072
>Victim Girls
Oh boy it has been years since the days of Ragnarok Online. Right in the nostalgia.
>>46493405
It's not like the wall is repairing itself between hits. The axe hits, it does damage. Just keep chopping and you'll get through. Saying an axe won't work is like saying a bread knife can't cut through a wall of peanut butter because none of the peanut butter is dislodged on the first cut
>>46491143
They are decendents of genetically altered super-mage race. Think Space Marines but mage. Problem is, the first volunteers for that treatment were chuuni as hell and asked if they can all have red eyes, seal/tattoo on their body, etc etc chuuni stuff. So those traits were inherited as well.
So what are Trail Rations made of, anyway? I mean, you'd think they'd have said.
Is it just nuts and raisins? Is it some kind of fantasy Spam? Is it cornbread?
>>46492201
Where can I get the rest of these? I want to read them all again.
>>46493957
Soylent.
>>46493957
Hard tact and to dip into it you have the tears of those who can't create food and water
>>46493957
Depends on species, cumgurgler. Try the race-specific ones for detail.
>>46494048
My Settlers-like village building game got (at list partially) ruined because of damn Create X spells. Settlers didn't even quite need to farm and they all had more than enough water to waste like hell. Oh, prestidigitation for cleaning clothes and psudo-black pepper. Settlers were quite happy though.
Rumors Confirmed: Paizo's Crystal Frasier and Amber Scott (The woman behind the terrible Baldur's Gate expansion) are friends and have been shilling for each other's works. Crystal, who is a self-professed trans is blaming tabletop gamers for not being supportive enough of Beamdog studios and brigading her followers into making positive reviews for the expansion game of Baldur's Gate. I still don't endorse grabbing your pitchforks and torches. Just point and laugh and don't interrupt the enemy while they continue making a mistake.
>>46494234
Oh, what fun.
Because trans/gay/whatever people obviously means the thing ITSELF is all good, and that's the ONLY reason it's not doing well.
>>46494234
Oh shush. There was obviously brigading going on to lower the score. "I don't endorse grabbing pitchforks, but let me try to rile y'all up anyways." Too many people are upset over an npc and a throwaway amusing line from a character that is a joke anyways.
>>46494069
Now, now, there's no need for that.
>>46494276
>There was obviously brigading going on to lower the score.
You realize this argument is moot when the game is in itself buggy, unplayable in multiplayer, destroys your mods and eats your saves, right?
But sure - there's a feminist boogeyman of a militant army of neckbeards on the internet who wants to keep women, gays and trans out of nerdy hobbies. That sounds much more plausible and not at all conspiratorial.
>>46494320
There's no need for you either.
>>46489886
I once played a goblin Alchemist whose whole "thing" was that he was the group's chef, and would just cook up whatever they had killed that day. His primary weapon was a butcher's cleaver.
I think the strangest was frying up the squid-face calamari and realizing that the tentacles still had bits of our Slayer's brain in them. Made for decent flavoring, though.
Since I know it'll get mentioned: apparently there's a manga that out there that I've seen referenced lately that I'd probably like, but I never really got into manga that much so I haven't bothered with it yet.
>>46494369
I didn't say there aren't valid complaints about the game, but to deny there's brigading going on is just stupid.
>>46494369
Sure, and the brigading cheapens the actual criticism of the game.
>>46494386
If that's the first thing you resort to saying when someone asks a question you don't like, that speaks to an entirely different issue.
Are you absolutely sure you're in a happy place right now? I mean, I get it, it's 4chan, but you don't even sound like you're having fun. You don't actually enjoy mocking me - somehow, it seems, with just one question, you feel perturbed by my very existence.
>>46490060
Her shield's upside-down. I mean, it was built that way, so it's not her fault, but she should definitely find a new smith.
>>46494457
>amateur psychoanalysis
You seem more disturbed than me tbqh, take your own advice
>>46494234
>Baldur's Gate flops
>Amber gets laid off
>Gets hired by Paizo
How would you guys feel about this?
>>46494512
Do you not know who wrote Book 1 of WotR?
Quick, Come up with or name some unique low level enemies (Say the 1-3 range)
Replace goblins and giant rats and the like basically.
>>46494528
Well since all the complaints I hear about WotR are trumpets and mythic rules I don't see an issue with it.
>>46492563
That guy in the background is probably regretting opening that door.
Can somebody point me at wherever it is (in Occult Adventures, I think?) that they state that emotion effects are mind-affecting?
>>46494570
She write the first adventure, where you start in a cave ad then get a flashback of how you get there. You also meet the the trans-lesbian married couple who sold the paladin's demon slaying sword so one of them could become a real women.
>>46494552
You're blind as fuck then lmao, people complain about shoehorned tranny lesbians in Book 1 all the time
>>46494594
Ultimate Magic introduced the "new" descriptors. Check there.
>>46494614
UM doesn't say that emotion is mind-affecting.
>>46494614
Oh, right, I also heard a complaint about trading away a sword for a potion. Though I've seen any gay or transgendered character is seen as shoehorned in.
>>46494551
Giant toads
Flying cabbages
>>46494551
Gremlins and weasels.
>>46494684
That's because Paizo doesn't know how to actually write good gay or trans characters and always shoehorns them in.
I don't know why, they can do it. Back in Dragon magazine, some guy write an awesome Greyhawk article about the guild leader of the Beggar's Guild whose lover had been killed by the Thieves Guild and was now waging a bloody street war against them in the shadows.
That fat fag was a bad ass.
>>46494684
Yeah. A paladin who had sworn to fight demons in the Worldwound, where demons are invading Golarion, decided to fucking sell her evil-outsider-bane sword to buy a sex change. Holy fucking shit. Sure, it's a nice gesture, but it's painfully retarded and an abandonment of her duty as a paladin.
The sword isn't the special super-magic one people conflate it with, but it's still useful against evil outsiders.
>>46494714
I hardly ever hear complaints about shoddily written straight characters. People just want to bitch about Paizo being SJWs when there are plenty of valid reasons to complain about them.
>>46494728
Paladins aren't just about fighting evil, but also for spreading law and good. It's not out of the question for a paladin to give up their items to help those in need.
>>46494765
In the fucking Worldwound, you stupid cuck? Where THE DEMONS ARE INVADING ALL THE TIME? Sure, let me, a holy warrior, just get rid of my demon-killing sword!!!! It's not even an expensive potion, you can afford it with the loot from one fucking adventure!
>>46494737
That's because those straight characters actually have to have details and background beyond their orientation to have any depth. Paizo slaps a label on the gay or trans characters and thinks that's enough.
There have been plenty of boring or lame straight characters in Paizo history. Ameiko, Shensen, Barney Thrune, The Storm Tyrant, all of the caravan members from Jade Regent, every Elf in Second Darkness, everyone not gay/trans from Kintargo.
>>46494765
Even so, dereliction of duty is a Chaotic act, and willingly handicapping oneself, and thus one's team, for the sake of something irrelevant to the mission is tantamount to treason.
The Crusade cannot succeed without the grit, determination, and teamwork of all of its members. Sacrifices must be made for the sake of excising the demon scourge from Golarion.
Happiness comes second to the survival of humanity and the fight against Evil.
>>46494815
Was it dereliction of duty? Did the paladin give up fighting, or did they just give up one of their weapons?
>>46494804
>Bazzy Thune
>the guy who wants to become a country and very nearly does it
>boring
We seem to have different definitions of "boring." Is he a bit Saturday-Morning-Cartoon? Yes. But "boring" is a word I'd hesitate to use.
>>46494804
>There have been plenty of boring or lame straight characters in Paizo history.
And we rarely see complaints about those characters, it always go back to the gay/transgendered characters.
>>46494789
They even sell it to a merchant who turned out to be a demonic plant!
They didn't even sell it to a fellow Paladin or Crusader, just some random schmuck on the street! People use that shit for scrying, you know!
>>46494728
I mean, a Paladin with a magic sword that commits suicide because of dysphoria isn't any help to anyone, while a Paladin without a magic sword who's no longer suicidal can at least still try to help.
I mean, I'm not familiar with the adventure, so I'm not sure what the specific story is, but there are definitely ways it can make sense.
>>46494846
Well, nobody complains about the taste of unsweetened green tea when they've got unsweetened green tea dyed neon purple to complain about in the same batch.
One is just boring. The other is boring AND calls undeserved attention to itself via a superficial marker deliberately selected for being 'outside the norm.'
In other words, it's the same reason anons complain about tripcodes.
>>46494886
The paladin isn't the one with dysphoria. A man fell in love with her, but she was gay so he became a woman to be accepted.
There are ways it could make sense, sure, but Paizo isn't competent enough to use any of them.
Plus >>46494880. Overall, the problem is that the paladin was reckless and careless with her duties and weapons, and ended up fucking herself over because she didn't take her job seriously enough.
>>46494886
The paladin's not the one who wanted the potion, it was her at-the-time boyfriend (a scout and trapper) who had long since felt like he was better off as a woman. The paladin, loving her partner, sold her sword for the potion.
Still, it's kind of a dumb thing to not just, you know. Go on a quick pillaging of goblins or something?
>>46494839
I'm not saying that Bazzy wasn't fabulous in theory, but he my love of his shenanigans was smothered by how much of a pussy they made him out to be in the final adventure when they started trotting out all the reasons you should feel sorry for him and make him into a pathetic wooby to kick around.
His plans were great, but he never lived up to them in the adventures. He's more comic relief than a worthy antagonist.
This is the guy who thinks it's a good idea to keep poking the bear when all he has to do to win everything is just die of old age.
>>46494907
So literally they're worse because they're not straight. Gotcha.
>>46494924
You're not wrong.
And to think the character I'm playing in the Hungry Are The Dead module works for the guy.
>>46494839
>a bit
Did you see what they thought was "horrible" about the tortures in Hell for him? He's laughably cartoonish. The sheer fact that his nickname is Bazzy should say exactly how amusing it is.
>>46494914
Ah, okay. Then yeah, that's pretty fucking stupid. Put off the romance shit until the demon shit's been handled.
>>46494923
I don't even think Irabeth is actually a lesbian, since they fell in love before Anevia becomes a women.
Either Irabeth is bi, like everyone else seems to be in Golarion, or is super open to long term experimentation.
>>46494932
If orientation, rather than the use of it as a neon strobe light, were the issue, tripfriends would be widely accepted throughout 4chan.
Really, folks 'round here just don't like things callin' attention to themselves. Nobody wants to be approached - they want to approach things they find interesting.
It's a tad antisocial an outlook, but since when did anyone care whether I thought that?
>>46494940
In the adventure, she runs around with a Masterwork Longsword.
She literally downgraded her weapon in the middle of the Worldwound so her boyfriend could become a girl.
>mfw if I run WoTR ever, Anevia will be a Succubus playing the long game
>>46494970
I think the writer separates romantic and sexual orientation.
