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Unified /pfg/ link repository:
>http://pastebin.com/YhdxTQS6
Ultimate Intrigue leaks:
>classes: http://imgur.com/a/tlwEX
>feats: http://imgur.com/a/PA4eT
>items: http://imgur.com/a/RzJiF
Old Thread: >>46385913
First for nothing to talk about
>>46396842
Tfw you'll never convince your dm to let you cast tailful polymorph or play the gelatinous cube monster class.
First for smiting wicked children.
Would playing as a half-Duergar Dwarf be considered just as tasteless and sue-like as playing as a half-Drow Elf?
>>46396908
Not unless you make it so, no.
>>46396868
Thus /pfg/ went the way of every other general and discussed nothing constantly
>>46396908
Do people really care about half-Drow?
>>46396870
If I could ever be assed to run Pathfinder again, I'd allow both, because I like fun.
>>46396842
>>46391074
Carryover from old thread. Free DSP download:
http://www.drivethrurpg.com/product/179672/April-Augmented?src=slider_view
>>46396908
I think I'd find it a little worse. At least drow are chaotic enough to fuck whatever they feel like fucking, but duergar fucking dwarves is like Auschwitz: The Romance Novel.
>>46396908
Half-breeds in themselves are a bit sue but I would say it depends on how much attention you give to your heritage. If you don't bring it up often, people in my experience tend not to remember it and roll with it easier.
nth for this looks like an amazing sorcerer trait, but what things will I still be in danger of with lowread: 8Wisdom? Are there any other good traits to use your CHA mod in place of another ability scores?
>Irrepressible (Faith): You can use your Charisma modifier in place of your Wisdom modifier when attempting Will saving throws against charm and compulsion effects.
>>46396870
AFTER SOME LONG, HARD BARGAINING, QANON'S WRANGLED PERMISSION TO SPOIL THE FULL TEXT OF THE SPELL
>Tailful Polymorph
>School: Transmutation (polymorph)
>Level: bloodrager 1, cleric 1, druid 1, inquisitor 1, ranger 1, sorcerer/wizard 1
>Casting Time: 1 standard action
>Components: V, S, F (a plush, doll, or other huggable, loveable representation of a mammal)
>Range: touch
>Target: living creature touched
>Duration: instantaneous (willing) or 24 hours (unwilling)
>Saving Throw: Fort negates
>Spell Resistance: yes
>The target instantaneously grows a luxurious tail (and optionally other features, as below. However, the tail is non-negotiable, okay?) matching the animal represented by your focus. If the target already possesses animalistic features, you may instead choose to improve the fluffiness of these features, change the apparent species of these features (e.g. change a catfolk's tail to a fox's tail), or simply remove any or all of them, if you're lame like that (this last use always has a 24-hour duration, regardless of the willingness of the target).
>A creature who gains a tail from this spell, or whose natural tail has been enhanced, can wrap themselves or another in this tail to ward against winter's chill; the wrappee suffers no harm from being in a cold environment, and can exist comfortably in conditions as low as –45 degrees Celsius without having to make Fortitude saves. This doesn't provide any protection from cold damage, nor does it protect against other environmental hazards associated with cold weather (such as slipping on ice, blindness from snow, and so on).
>Other features grant +1 circumstance bonuses to the following skills (and no other mechanical benefit, such as movement speeds or natural attacks):
>Ears: Perception checks to hear
>Eyes: Perception checks to see
>Feet: Stealth checks to move silently
>One Single Fang: Diplomacy checks to influence attitude
>Additional features may be possible with GM permission.
>>46396951
Not really seeing the simile there.
Jesus christ what fresh hell is this eyecancer
>>46396992
Making this spell official in my current game.
>>46396992
I smell fetish bait
>>46397056
And it smells fantastic!
>>46396996
>Section 104: Capturing slaves from unclaimed territory (i.e., tunnels and caverns not specified as belonging to any duergar clan) is designated a true duty, and is allowed provided the following holds:
>Section 104.1: Ownership of slaves falls to the clan that found them. If multiple clans are in dispute and have obeyed normal rules of engagement (see Section 19), a priest shall arbitrate the dispute. If multiple clans have a valid claim, slaves shall be distributed evenly, with first choice falling to the clan in highest standing.
>Section 104.2a: Slaves must meet minimum health guidelines (as defined in Section 3) or be exterminated. Diseased captives in particular must be exterminated swiftly to prevent the disease from spreading to other property.
>Section 104.2b: Dwarven captives must be exterminated, but may be tortured first.
From Monster Codex. The duergar are a monotheist race who view all non-pure duergar as good only for slavery, and dwarves in particular as blood traitors to be executed as a matter of law.
>>46396992
>not on the Witch spell list
>not on the Occultist spell list
>not on the Bard spell list
Shit spell desu senpai
>>46396980
I know Kobolds get a feat (Kobold Confidence?) that lets them swap their CON score for INT, WIS, or CHA when determining Fort Saves and HP.
>>46397065
>first ponyfinder threads lasting for hours
>now this garbage
God it's times like these I'm glad I don't actually play with anyone from /tg/
>>46396992
AFTER IMPORTANT PLAYTEST FEEDBACK, WE'VE DECIDED TO ISSUE THE FOLLOWING ERRATA:
>Add Tailful Polymorph to literally every spell list at level 1. Especially Magus.
>>46397104
People can have fun in their own way, baka. As long as it's not hurting anyone I don't see the issue, senpai.
>>46397104
You weren't here last thread, were you? It's just QANON pulling April Fools jokes. DSP released an April Fools PDF too.
>>46397065
Kill yourself.
>>46397108
You should let Kineticists cast it as a spell like ability. Of course, since it's so powerful they probably ought to take burn for it.
>>46397128
Aw, I'm sorry but I can't do that. It's not very high on my to-do list and I can find I can actually have fun with things.
>>46397138
That makes sense and seems balanced. After all, you can warm yourself up with the tail; that totally means you getBurned!
>>46397125
Oh, forgive, I'm to used to the usual bullshit that I can't tell jokes from reality anymore.
>>46397167
DSP posted PoW errata too. Completely fixed all the problems with the first book.
>>46397071
So what you're saying is, its more likely for the Duergar to come from his dad's side of the family?
For clarification, I dont intend for him to be happily living in a nice Dwarf clan when the party meets him. More like a dirty Dwarf hobo living in a cave.
hello /pfg/
>>46397188
I want to live in this fantasy world.
How have your sessions been?
>>46397250
Last session we fought a total of 4 rakshasas and I never want to see one ever again. I think we still have probably like 4 more of the bastards AND 2 boss fights with them too.
>>46396992
>a mammal
>can't be lizards
>can't be birds
>can't be fish
Trash yourself senpai desu
>>46397250
Dead, on account of flaking
There's always one, maybe two people in a group that the others will just not play without.
>>46397386
Try playing with a married couple. If one's out, we lose half the group.
nyeh heh heh!
>>46397386
Just keep your group housed in your basement or shed, it should be fine if you have a good enough lock. Remind them they get food and water when they game.
>>46397355
What's so bad about them? Protection from evil shuts down a lot of their stuff, iirc.
>>46397250
after like two or three months we finally had another one
it was ok, its me, a first time DM and three absolute newbies
still struggling to get more actual roleplaying out of them instead of "i attack the kobold" and "i loot the kobold"
Don't hide it from me /pfg/.
Tell me about your homebrew weapons
>>46397522
Not even a "I turn the kobold's body into a puppet?"
>>46397506
Their AC makes them incredibly hard to hit, their DR makes it difficult to even hurt them unless everyone switches to a piercing weapon and I burn through several Align Weapon spells, and their SR effectively makes it so our Beguiler is utterly useless.
I just don't have enough Align Weapon spells to aid the entire party enough if we are fighting so many of the damn things.
>>46397523
I like giving my weapons elaborate names, does that count?
>>46397099
It's fortsaves and negative hp before death, not straight hp.
It's still good, but y'know.
>>46397571
You keep bitching about this every thread. Are these just the standard rakshasas? What level is your group?
>>46397523
wink
>>46397571
Rely on damaging spells and combat maneuvers, maybe? Or get oils of bless weapon or something.
>>46397522
Keep trying. Ask them to detail their actions and practice some social encounters.
>>46397571
Shell out for a Scroll or two of Mass Align Weapon. It should also be noted that Raktavarnas (I assume you're fighting them - the rest aren't as hard to hit and the SR isn't so crippling, SR 17 on a CR 2 monster is bullshit) are DR 5/Good OR Piercing, not AND, meaning you could probably get by just with piercing weapons.
>>46397522
Eh. A new DM and new players, that's not so bad. I'd keep offering opportunities to roleplay, just don't sweat it too hard. Let everyone get a handle on things before worrying too much about RP.
>>46397654
This. Pathfinder is annoyingly complicated and it's hard for a new GM with new players to determine exactly what's fair and balanced off the cuff; it's something you really just need experience with to handle fluidly.
Do not be afraid to stumble or fail, because you will. It's entirely okay to retcon an encounter if you realize later you made it way too hard. It's entirely okay to make encounters easier and fudge rolls on your end if the players are having an off day and luck is working against them.
>>46397603
Yea. Lets see, I know for certain that Noble Scion feat gets you CHA instead of DEX for Initiative if you choose the Scion of War thing.
>>46397604
I think so? I'm not the DM. They seem to have 28 AC though, unless they cast Mage Armor or Shield, then it's like 32+. And have DR 15 Good and Piercing.
We just turned level 8.
>>46397605
>damaging spells
We don't have a caster capable of such things, and even if we did it's highly improbable we'd beat their SR 25.
Is it wrong to have a PC's waifu secretly being an erodaemon and plan to NTR them?And if you guys turn out to be reading the thread, sorry I guess
>>46397775
Eva, if you want to cheat on your husband just do it.
>DM keeps telling me not to magical realm nor to go full protagonist syndrome
>tell him I know and I wouldn't do it anyways
>join the game
>he is leader of the town with a succubus bangmaid while being a Minotaur
>>46397738
SR 25 + DR 15 Good & Piercing is a Common Rakshasa, a CR 10 monster.
One them on its own is halfway to a boss encounter, and two of them in one encounter is CR 12, making it APL+4 and therefore a boss battle. A CR 10 Common Rakshasa with two CR 8 Marai Rakshasa or four CR 6 Amanusya Rakshasa would also be a boss encounter.
>>46397738
28 AC would be... I dunno, rakshasas in studded leather or something. 33 would be with mage armor and shield up.
Honestly, you shouldn't be fighting more than two at any time, that's a CR 12 encounter by itself.
>>46397738
Your DM is cuckolding you famalam, they have AC 25 and since mage armor/shield improve it they're not wearing armor or a shield to explain that +3 AC.
>>46397855
>>46397881
He could simply be wrong about what the AC seems to be.
Regardless, multiple Common Rakshasa in one encounter at 8th level is punishing, and any more than 2 is flat-out OP for a normal party.
Unless there's more than 4 of them.
>>46397842
How many people are in your party?
Say, would a Small Weapon with reach still have a reach of 10ft, since small characters and normal weapons have the same normal range as a Medium creature?
Also, why is it that a Rhomphaia doesn't have the ruling that it can be used against adjacent, despite the fact that it's handle length would actually mean that it would be useful against close enemies?
>>46397987
Forgot pic
>>46397987
The answers are Yes and Paizo.
>>46397987
Yes on the Small reach, and "fuck you that's reserved for magic items because fuck martials" for adjacency.
>>46397987
A: Yes.
B: Realism is a nonsensical balance point in Pathfinder. Reach rules themselves make no sense outside of a few VERY long weapons, and that's only for human sizes. Besides, weapons are such a small portion of the game, despite the amount of content for them, that it doesn't matter - just pick a different weapon's stats and refluff it.
How to stat pic related?
So I recently joined a game in progress where the other player all started out with special dragon powers and such. The DM informed me that I would get nothing so I decided to play a CE Vitalist yandere heal-slut. Well I wanted to form a cult that worships these dragon deities(The other PCs) and through a corrupted wish I now have a Thrallheard of 30 children that will do what I say with 0 hesitation.
I feel like I've been given a wonderful opportunity here but don't quite know how to capitalize on it.
>>46398064
NO CLUE WHO IT IS. YOU WANT STATS, DESCRIBE THEM AND WHAT THEY DO.
JACKASS.
>>46398087
caps lock is cruise control, couchwarriors represent
>>46398064
Female fluid druid 10 semen demon
>>46398087
Damon eat a Snickers. You're not you when you're hungry.
>>46398064
Fluid Druid
>>46398070
Painlessly rip off their heads.
>>46397823
WHY IS NAOTO SO FUCKING CUTE HOLY SHIT.
>>46398105
I HAVE THREE SNICKERS IN MY MOUTH AT TIME OF WRITING. SILENCE THYSELF.
>>46398064
>those fingers
Don't think I don't know your really a skeleton!
>>46398110
I've already verified with the DM that there is no market for children parts/fluids
>>46398139
Well, since you're Janie, you might want to double check and make sure those snickers aren't cocks.They probably are.
>>46398139
Imagine putting a heating lamp above your mouth so the snickers just melt and drizzle down your gullet, you fat cow of a man.
>>46398142
>no necromancers looking to make attic whisperers
What a bitch
>>46398161
I AM MULTIFACETED AND MYSTERIOUS. ALSO, ONLY ONE OF THEM IS.
>>46398167
MY FETISH.
>>46397914
We have 4.
Beguiler 3pp
Inquisitor
Cleric
Battle Scion 3pp
Also thanks for the advice. Unfortunately it's unlikely I'll be able to get a hold of oils of bless weapon or the like unless we just leave the dungeon which seems like a bad idea.
As others have noted, yes, we have had 2 encounters so far with 2 rakshasas each. Thankfully the combats were close enough that my align weapons lasted both combats, but I don't know how many more there are and I'm trying to conserve them as it's our only way of damaging the things.
>>46398182
Aren't you a lesbian, QANON?
>>46398139
NO WONDER YOUR FAT FINGERS KEEP MASHING UP THE KEYBOARD YOU COLOSSAL NECKBEARD
FUCK
ALL
Y'ALL
Hey nerds, how do I make the ultimate bro?
>>46398173
Yeah, It's a very low magic/ somewat-low psionic setting
>>46398281
Study the Teachings of Kurgess!
Be the Bro he knows you can be!
>>46398281
FUCK YOU
Use this
>>46398293
>very low magic
cuck
>>46398293
>low magic
>psions
Ew
>>46398196
As the guy who asked how many players you have, did the CR/XP math earlier, and recommended the scrolls:
Run.
The single most powerful thing any adventurer can do is run away. It doesn't matter your alignment, your class, your ideology - if you're all dead, you can do nothing. Back out, buy some fairly cheap scrolls and oils, nab a Wand of Protection from Evil (Easy +2 Deflection to AC), and probably a Metamagic Rod of Piercing for the Beguiler. Re-arm everyone with piercing weapons if possible. If you absolutely must, throw your theological weight around and get someone higher-up in your deity's established church (probably Good, right?) to Planar Ally a 12HD Good Outsider (Archons are ideal) to help you crush the Rakshasas.
Will this be any good?
>>46398395
Who is authoring it?
>>46398395
More than you'd think, but less than you'd hope
>>46398395
Eh. They at least outright said that "yeah, actual scary horror is not going to happen given PF mechanics" and that they're going for a pulp feel, so I'm not expecting it to be outright awful.
>>46398420
What kinda answer is that?
Why is Brigh such a terrible person?
>>46398475
The kind that you deserve, but don't need
>>46398475
Accurate.
>>46398505
That's TF porn of a MOBA character, not Brigh
>>46398431
Yeah, they're right about that and it's refreshing that they're willing to acknowledge things the system just isn't good at...
But it's still going to be absolute shit. Recognizing that the system isn't designed for horror is only step 1; they're missing the crucial step 2 of not fucking doing it anyway.
>>46398505
Brigh isn't the goddess of deviantart-tier fetish comics. That'd be... I dunno, a high-ranking pairaka div?
>>46398505
I don't need your transformation fetish shit Larry.
>>46398505
>TF Porn
>Evidence of unrelated goddess being terrible.
>Doesn't even make subject of picture a terrible person.
You're terrible at this.
>>46398558
I'd still probably fuck it.
>>46398505
..Isn't that Orianna? And also not even close to canon even then? What does this have to do with Brigh?
>>46398431
What's a pulp feel?
>>46398410
Doesn't say; think Wes might be involved
Horror Adventures includes:
Corruptions that can turn your character into a monster, from a blood-drinking vampire to a savage werewolf. The only cost is your very soul!
Character options to help heroes face the forces of darkness, including horror-themed archetypes, feats, spells, and more!
Rules for sanity and madness, giving you all the tools you need to drive your characters to the brink and beyond.
Tips and tools for running a scary game, along with expanded rules for curses, diseases, haunts, and fleshwarping to bring your nightmares to life.
New templates to turn your monsters into truly terrifying foes, from creatures made from living wax to the stalker that cannot be stopped!
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>>46398579
Yer a massive slut though, Travis.
>>46398579
You fool, you fool! She's teeming with disease! O~hohohoho!
>>46398579
Of course you would, that's its power.
>Lustful Dreams (Su) Pairakas can torment sleeping creatures. While an intelligent creature sleeps, a pairaka can slip into the target’s mind and twist its dreams to lusty nocturnal visions.
>If the victim fails a DC 21 Will save, it experiences vivid hallucinations of a lurid nature that leave it breathless and fatigued upon waking. The victim, even a depraved soul, rarely considers the sexual nature of these dreams enjoyable, as the images exploit any number of taboos the pairaka suspects its victim might harbor.
>Pairakas pride themselves on perversion. They love nothing more than turning lovers against one another or destroying the bonds of friendship. Pairakas feed off this slow torment and savor each broken heart or disappointment. They use lust and sexuality as their primary tools, wielding taboos and carnal appetites to sever once-friendly relationships. Pairakas also use their seduction to spread disease, charming victims into physical contact.
They exist to turn people into /d/eviants, and also give them STDs.
>>46398558
I haven't seen a whole lot of art for other divs. Do you have any art of the rest of them?
>>46398641
/d/ is fucking pleb-tier.
Visit /trash/ sometime, we got some goddamn variety.
>>46398641
>the images exploit any number of taboos the pairaka suspects its victim might harbor.
What kind of taboos would it even be able to exploit on your average /b/tard?
>>46398593
Pulp is goofy, fun, silly, and/or over the top. Think "Evil Dead", not "Cloverfield"
Is this accurate?
"Pathfinder is for character tinkering, 5e is for adventuring as a party. Are you the DM? I'd suggest 5e. If you're a player, honestly look at the parties of Players.
I've found that pathfinder is an attractor for weeaboos and furries while 5e has people more interested in role play.
5e also has adventurer's league, which means that If you level up a PC in one game, you can jump to another table with the same character."
>>46398751
>implying weeaboos and furries can't also roleplay
>implying organized play is unique to 5e, and pathfinder society isn't (somehow) BIGGER than adventurer's league
>implying that's a good thing
wew lad
>>46398688
I can try my hand at ripping them from my pdfs.
Here's an aghash div, the ones that despise beautiful people and uses curses to make them ugly.
>>46398603
SHUT UP LETICIA.
>>46397523
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ar3Xxh8HcbI8WMCQD3CRB1LtOYF7cspYVy9GXV5_b4M/edit#gid=282609235
My weapon creation rules.
>>46398794
I have a succu-I mean great friend who's dying to meet you
How do I roleplay 5 Charisma without necessarily being a huge cunt?
>>46398688
Here's an akvan, the top-tier divs that hate and destroy everything, but especially like to smash up wonders of the world and monuments.
>>46398828
Did someone cast Awaken on you?
>>46398828
What? I wasn't listening to you.
Charisma is force of presence, low charisma means the person is largely forgotten and ignored.
>>46398688
Here's a doru div, the ones that try to corrupt the impressionable and play familiar.
>>46398856
No, I'm an Orc Warder.
>>46398688
This one's a ghawwas, which poisons the seas and oases.
Div are fucking fugly
>>46398751
As someone who's DMed both before, I cannot recommend 5E from a DMs perspective. I dreaded having to set up for game each week, since a) so much seems to lack cohesion or customizability, and b) the sheer vagueness of everything being "just ask the DM." With nothing to fall back on, it became frustrating to the point of asking why I wasn't just making my own game at that point.
>>46398688
Sepid divs, the ones that start wars just to make everyone sad. Also they always do the opposite of what they say, because they're bad at lying.
>>46398709
>trash
>about 12 furry threads, almost half of them near identical shades of s/fur
>also goats
>variety
It's not nice to lie Marcia
>>46398688
And the shira divs, which hunt The Most Dangerous Game and fill the race's furry quota.
>>46398872
It means you take a -3 penalty on Charisma based skill checks and ability checks.
This means that, unless you invest ranks in the appropriate skills, your character is a bad liar, not very convincing (you can't even get someone on the street to give you directions at DC 10 most of the time), bad at making threats, bad with animals, unable to convincingly act as someone else, has little influence over magical items, and is shit at playing the tuba. It also means you can easily be convinced to do things you wouldn't otherwise want to when you're charmed, and if for some reason you can bind outsiders it takes a lot of effort to subject them to your will.
All of those can be mitigated with skillpoints aside from the issues with Charm effects and binding. Charisma has no other affect on your character, and you're free to roleplay it as much or as little as you want; there's no standard and you don't even have to acknowledge it beyond the mechanical ramifications on your attempts to do certain things if you don't want to.
>>46398963
Effect*
Has anyone ever considered swapping out Arushalae the Succubus for a something like a Vrock or a Dretch that's been converted to neutrality, just to see if players approach the situation differently since they probably wouldn't want to fuck it.
>>46398927
Really, it's not that bad?
Wouldn't PF similarly be of a like problem, being composed of too much planning needed
>>46398688
And I guess I'll round it out with Ahriman, lord of all divs and winner of the "most pathetic stats for a leader of an outsider race" award. Poor divs will never go anywhere with this guy at the helm.
>>46399034
>Wouldn't PF similarly be of a like problem, being composed of too much planning needed
Not really you have SO MUCH SHIT to draw from.Maybe if you were playing in a brand new setting with 100% unique monsters and enemies.
>>46398593
>Corruptions
Hmmm, that gives a idea on how to putWraethuinto my game
>>46398751
>>46398780
>implying weeaboos and furries aren't also all over 5e
Son, the first 3pp PUBLISHED for the system was a My Little Pony supplement.
You want a mostly-unbiased account of the differences from someone who loves both?
Pathfinder has more options and makes you feel like a big damn hero, but you don't often feel like you were likely to fail at any given point, and it also feels like it's due at least in part to the GDP-costing armoury bedecking you, rather than your abilities. Which can be a plus or a minus, depending on the person. It's easy to set up, thanks to a wealth of weirdly-specific resources splattered all over the web, and the ability to spend ten seconds porting something from 3.5 if you can't find a PF thing you need.
5e is newer, has fewer options (partly by design, partly due to simply less time). It's harder to set up, but easier to run. Magic items feel more special, and you more often feel a sense of agency, like you could've fucked up and died just there, but you didn't. A lot of concepts just don't WORK in 5e, due to lack of options, but thankfully, 3pp is starting to pour in, and that's shrinking. 5e has more players, is growing faster, and has markedly shrunk (though not eliminated) the martial/caster disparity (and the monk is decent! How cool is that!)
Pathfinder tries to micromanage out-of-combat, while 5e takes its hands off the wheel and says "up to you, dude". Which approach is better depends entirely on the group.
>>46399024
My favorite twist on the Arushaelae situation is still the time two CN clerics were in the party, and set about convincing her that good was overrated and that there was no need to change herself even further just to win that slut Desna's approval.That one of them was a Calistrian made the constant 'slut' thing kind of retarded on his part, but at least the cleric of Bokrug made good points.
>>46399035
Thanks a bunch!
>>46398936
Anyone got the Raven Knight?
>>46399035
What is the optimal build to both kill and usurp Ahriman?
You'd want limited wish, unless there's a way to cast holy word as an NE character that I'm not aware of. You'd want something to guard against ability drain. Suppose you'd want to shut down his teleportation just in case, and then you'd need a crew with +4 holy weapons to beat his regen away with.
Hello, Sir/Madam, may I perchance interest you in purchasing some of our fine wares?
Nobody would happen to have a pre-made vitalist around level 4-6 would they?
>>46399497
That's something that's always bugged me about fiends, they often have defenses that are difficult if not impossible to overcome without holy stuff. Which makes it kinda hard to have events where other fiends usurp them, or devils fight demons or something. I guess the stronger ones could use UMD to wield a holy weapon safely.
>>46399652
I wasn't even going to bother. It's just one negative level, sure it's a penalty, but it's not enough to really stop you from using the item.
>>46399446
VILDERAVN
GIVE ME THE VILDERAVN
Is it wise to suspend roleplaying activities when the age=no gf axiom persists no matter what?
>>46399774
What are you talking about? Age equals no girlfriend?
>>46399774
try that sentence again?
>>46399748
???
>>46399797
NOT THAT ONE
I WANT ARTORIAS.
>>46399793
Exactly
>>46399795
what part
>>46399818
>>46399820
the whole thing? what are you trying to say?
So any news about new spells?
>>46399832
I love you, Ellen!
Marry me!
>>46399446
>>46399748
>>46399818
Just google it you double-nigger, damn.
>>46399832
...damn, its actually fucking artorias
>>46399862
That's Arturia, silly.
>>46399835
What, from UI? What specifically are you after, I ain't gonna go through and grab the whole damn spells section.
>>46399892
Plagiarizing Paizo
>>46396992
>>46396992
>>One Single Fang: Diplomacy checks to influence attitude
>a spell to give DAT FANG
THIS IS HERESY. THIS WILL PREVENT ME FROM GIVING ALL MY CHARACTERS DAT FANG. I AM FURIOUS.
>>46399892
>silly artoria
>>46399832
>>46399869
I want this thing to be an initiator and I want it now!
This guy is PERFECT for a campaign antagonist!
>>46399972
Saber a shit.
Caster Tamamo best girl.
>>46399994
Replace witch shit with CHAbinger abilities.
>>46399957
tbqh familia that was pretty autistic even for a joke, cool down a bit
>>46399957
That would imply that characters also can't have eyes, ears, feet, or tails without this spell.
Pretty sure you can have the fang, it's just mechanically irrelevant.
>>46400026
Saber a shit
Tamamoshit a shit
Fate was a mistake
>>46399994
Replace all but the At Wills with 11th level Harbinger Initiating with Cursed Razor and Black Seraph (or maybe Unquiet Grave)
>>46400095
Limited wish's also a pretty important part of its characterization. And you mean 18th-level harbinger initiation.
>>46400061
Colleen, you shouldn't get so angry about younger, cuter girls than you. It isn't healthy.
>>46400132
That's a pretty rad name
>>46400123
Yeah, keep the wish. And I was limiting it since the AF wills and Su abilities are already pretty decent, and 18 Initiating on a CR 16 creatures seems a bit silly
>>46400206
It's got 22 HD, if anything it should be an epic-level initiator.
>>46400223
God, imagine fighting a level 20 Harbinger with all those at-wills and passives.
Preferably in a burning castle or ash-covered battlefield.
>>46400223
It'd only have IL 11 since non initiator HD only provide 1/2 IL.
>>46400292
And non-witch HD don't normally provide witch hexes. It's magic, I don't gotta explain shit.
>>46400292
Anon, what part of "terrifying martial opponent for the end of a campaign" don't you understand?
>>46398593
Corruption of Champions: Pathfinder Edition
>>46397523
Weapons? I guess some chunks of wood. My character generates enough grappling actions, grapple state advancers and bonuses that he can literally crucify people in battle as a fighting style.
>>46400223
It's still only CR 16, monsters tend to have a bunch of extra HD to make them threatening enough.
>>46400606
So...?
>>46400403
See, people might ENJOY that though.
>>46400754
Dude, knowing us the mutation rules will have the secret to getting bigger boobs or a fat satyr dick.
Or canon rules for getting knocked up by a monster!
Since we're talking NE outsiders, what do you think of the sahkil, /pfg/?
Given how utterly shit-tier the divs are, I feel like a third NE outsider race is less blatantly unnecessary than, say, the manasaputra.
>>46400640
So suck my cock, Vanessa. You do it better than conduct dialogue
>>46400839
>namefagging enforced
>/pfg/ instantly becomes massively more autistic
>>46400900
Is the Zimmer simmered?
>>46400923
Suck my cock, Karla. You do it better than conduct dialogue.
>>46400900
Wow, I didn't need a telegram to know Ms. Zimmerman was a huge bitch.
>>46400923
I think he is karla.
What is the coolest antagonist in the bestiaries.
I want an opponent that works as the mastermind of the campaign's woes AND serves as an amazing enemy in the climactic finale.
>>46401038
>>46399832
Already posted
>>46399832
This is probably my favourite BBEG-in-a-can found in a bestiary OR monster manual to date.
What are the main reasons the monk is a bad class? I'm trying to change some aspects about it to make it better.
>>46401171
3/4 BAB & d8 HD frontline Class.
Abilities are more flavor than function.
A few of the archtypes are good, but I don't recall the consensus on those atm.
>>46401171
Just use a Unchained Monk, its strongly Tier 4, and relatively good at its job, and the right Ki powers gives it some utility
How do you keep permanent control of undead you create with create undead?
>>46401171
Use Unchained Monk, it fixes it already.
The Monk's problems are numerous and omnidirectional. I can list it if you want but the best answer is use Unchained Monk and forget about regular Monk entirely.
>>46401261
By not using create undead in the first place, use animate dead.
>>46401270
>>46401248
UC monk with all good saves*
>>46400048
Sorry. I am not good at the April Foolsing.
>>46401171
>>46401215
Zen Archer, Sohei and Qingong were good because they gave the Monk options that were strictly better than the things they replaced (ranged fighting ability and some magic for garbage class features).
The base Monk and the majority of archetypes for it tried to pretend that being a d8 HD class with no armor and that is FAR too MAD to pump their stats for solid AC, was an effective martial character, and it just straight fucking wasn't.
UC Monk is much better in that regard, but I'd honestly rather play a Steelfist Commando Warlord or Dervish Defender Warder any day of the fucking week.
>>46401261
You don't. That, and the absurd CL requirements to make low CR undead, are why create undead is garbage and animate dead will forever be superior.
FROSTFALLEN NECROMANCERS, REPRESENT
>>46401317
>or Dervish Defender
Unarmed strike considered as weapon for Two-Weapon Defense?
>>46401440
Even if it isn't, I can use Cestii or Spiked Gauntlets or Armor Spikes or whatever. I AM pretty confident that since you can TWF with Unarmed Strikes, it will definitely count for Two-Weapon Defense.
>>46401355
Wouldn't a frostfallen dragon lose like half the shit it can do?
>>46401270
Yeah let's assess this shit:
• Monks need Strength, Dexterity, Constitution and Wisdom. If they are bad at any of these they either die or are useless, no joke.
• Monks' main focus and source of "scaling" is just having class features whose only job is to MAKE UP for not using weapons and armor. And they suffer severe disadvantages even then: The replacements scale from pitiful values at low levels to shit that looks okay on paper but is actually not worth it at all at late levels because your friends have been able to enhance their weapons to +10 equivalents and you haven't! And you had to pay extra to even get yours up to +5!
• Your armor class is going to be horrible, okay? You have an AC bonus and that's nice but you didn't get to put an 18 in Dex and Wis together, so you're not as safe as some Fighter who put on a basic chain shirt.
• Your hit dice for a class with low AC in the frontline are a sick and cruel joke. d8 and requiring a stressed split in attribute investment is not a good life.
• Your battle-action class features are moving extra fast, and having to STAND PERFECTLY STILL TO ATTACK RAPIDLY WITH IRRITATINGLY LOW ATTACK BONUSES. Is that synergy?
>tfw even in a gestalt game my character is useless compared to literally everyone else
>tfw other guys are breaking>250 damage a round, can craft magical, technological, and alchemical items with ease
>my character is lucky if he breaks 100, IF he hits, and can barely fucking hide constantly.
I feel so out of my league, I can't help but feel a little NaCl.
>>46401663
What are you actually playing?
>>46401663
Post class/level/build, maybe we can help you.
So what would work well to gestalt a vitalist with? Avoiding casters because the dm has some mana system I don't rant to bother with.
>>46397506
Fukken Jesus Poole
Is that the second coming of Jesus or moot? Or both
>>46401531
Not such as you'd think.
Consider the humble zombie or skeleton:
>any natural armor is reset to a shitty value based solely on size
>all defensive abilities are lost
>no special attacks retained
>all-important Charisma score gets reset to 10, 14 at best with variants
>no provision to keep senses beyond the standard undead darkvision
Now the frostfallen:
>natural armor bonus improves by +4 from the base value
>no defensive abilities lost, they only gain DR and cold immunity
>frostfallen creature retains all of the base creature’s special attacks, gains HD-scaling cold damage on attacks and as a defensive measure
>base creature's Charisma is not only maintained, but improved by +6
>lifesense on top of darkvision, AKA blindsight for all non-construct/undead purposes
Frostfallen lose very little of what makes dragons offensive powerhouses. Feats is the only thing you'll really miss, but between the storm of natural attacks with added cold damage, the breath weapon, and the naturally high Charisma and natural armor, a frostfallen dragon packs a punch.
I had an adult black in one campaign (with boosted stats via some alchemy shit it did, it was a temp-BBEG) that consistently out-damaged a paladin and a zen archer, despite the campaign being almost entirely undead and the paladin having share-smite via Oath of Vengeance. All the upkeep I did was healing it and throwing an AoMF on its neck to get it past DR/magic
>>46401663
What >>46401741 and >>46401751 said, what are you playing and what's the build? What's the rest of the party?
So last night my DM made the only homosex in our group RP a Pegasus rape scene. The PC was the Pegasus and was CLEARLY not into this woman's weird advances, her attempting to fondle his horsecock and such
It was the best session ever
I mean I kinda wanted to raid an underground city of undead... but weird horsesex is fine too
What happens to a Familiar when its master dies?
>>46402202
A familiar has max HP equal to 1/2 its master's max HP. A dead creature becomes an object with no max HP. Therefore a familiar also has no max HP, therefore it dies.
#trumpstumped
Is there a spell to force a dragon to land?
>>46402202
We only know a little bit, but from the witch:
>If a familiar belongs to a witch that has died, it only retains its knowledge of spells for 24 hours, during which time it is possible to coerce or bribe the familiar into teaching its spells to another, subject to GM discretion.
24 hours to raise rhe person before the familiar's sentience goes seems a fair general rule.
>>46402153
Why did the woman want the horsecock so bad, was she a Theodora-tier whore that could only find pleasure from cocks longer than a foot?
>>46402202
It slowly loses sapience as the magic of his partner wanes away, gradually turning into a simple beast as he drowns in sorrow
It's effed up
>>46401829
Stalker, Ordained Defender Warder, Inquisitor, or Myrmidon Fighter are all decent Wis-based martial types.
>>46402266
Not a clue, but there's a Cursed Razor maneuver (Shadow Pin) that can do that.
WHAT'S THE CUTEST FUCKING THING YOU CAN IMAGINE A BIG ULFEN DUDE DOING TO INGRATIATE HIMSELF TO A CUTE LITTLE QADIRAN SORCERESS
TELL ME
>>46402271
>>46402307
Well, there goes my NPC concept.
>>46402364
>Qadiran
Killing her and her family, then going back to a loving wife who supports and appreciates him instead of taking his money and expecting him to do all the work.
Or he could try to be even more autistic than you, that'd certainly impress anyone.
>>46402026
>Me, Stalker Brawler 10 No archetypes, Strength Based using Broken Blade, Veiled Moon, E.Flux
>Warlord||Aegis with some Templates
>Cluster Fuck of Psionic Mech Classes, Aegis, and bunch of shit I don't even know what the fuck. He just does something and half the battle field is deleted.
>Monk//Druid//Warshaper, broke in group record iirc but basically kills herself whenever she attacks.
>Dread//Zealot, saves everyone ass with counters
>>46402301
I guess she had some sort of deviant past. She was like half demon or something... Dono how that relates to her love of horsecock tho
The best part was during insertion our DM made him roll either "a Perform or a STR check" He choose STR and rolled a 20... I'm almost certain that this gal is a high tier demon considering she was alive and well the nex morning after the brutal assault on her insides.
>>46402409
Wow anon, I was just trying to be a dank memester like the rest of you cool cats, you didn't have to whip out the big barbed guns like that.
>>46402419
Ask your GM to allow templates added onto you? Ask the other players to tone it down by what sounds like a ton?
Honestly, this sounds like you need to have a discussion with everyone in your party, if you're having THAT much in the same group as your character.
>>46402482
Shucks, Hugo! I thought you were a cool poppa, but I guess you're just an ANUS!!!
>>46402425
>She was like half demon or something... Dono how that relates to her love of horsecock tho
Most demons probably have way weirder dicks than a horse-cock, she probably wanted something cute and traditional.
>mfw accidentally get roped into ERPing with another player, have never EVER done that shit before and usually actively avoided it
>not really sure how to back out, so I just roll with it
>mfw it keeps happening, and being a dense motherfucker I keep tripping right into it
>mfw the characters involved always have access to magic, and as such it keeps getting weirder and weirder
So what kind of weird things have happened to you lately, /pfg/?
>>46402419
Everybody else has the right idea, but you somehow doubled down on punchan classes and ended up worse at it than everyone.
In gestalt, you have to combine a passive class (like the Aegis or Paladin) with an active class (like an initiator or spellcaster) if you really want to get any benefit out of it.
I'm with >>46402499 as far as what you should do. There's really nothing TO be done that isn't "reroll" or "get your DM to hook you up."
>>46402564
Storytime.
>>46402499
I don't want to ruin anyone elses fun because they genuinely enjoy their characters.Besides none of the templates really appealed to me and I feel like they wouldn't really fix anything. 1/3 of the party mentioned above is using templates anyway.
>>46402573
And I applied the Brawlers passive Martial Flexibility and Damage Dice with the Stalker's Initiating.
>>46402564
We need to know the details... As well as if you're actually enjoying it or not.
Because you don't seem bothered by the ERP.
>>46402383
Come to think of it, if a dead master's Familiar used those 24 hours to take a class level, would it keep its Familiar abilities too?
>>46402676
Considering those two things only make you slightly better at the thing you are already good at, you're pretty much playing a single-classed character in a party of gestalts.
Gestalt is NOT for combining two fighting classes that have good synergy, it's for picking up additional options and problem-solving. It also sounds like you somehow have picked the worst possible maneuvers, especially since Broken Blade is one of THE most powerful disciplines right now, and you should meet literally every requirement for using it properly.
>>46402383
There is always the matter of exceptions, always is. I am sure there may be rare cases of former familiar retaining a spark of the magic that triggers them into Awakening on their own. There is after all at least one awakened animal with class levels in the APs, a raven druid in jade regent.
also consider the Archetypes. I dooubt a divine emissary would become a normal animal if the master died since it is implied to be divinely appointed. So it probably just gets sent off to it's next potential master whoever is in charrge deems fit.
Sage familiars could potentially be more likely to become awakened on their own.
Stat me, /pfg/
>>46402595
>>46402676
I'd still seriously consider asking the party to tone down their characters at least a little bit, and at the same time build yours to be more potent. Perhaps trade Stalker for Aurora Soul Mystic, or hell just ask if you can get the Advanced template if nothing else is jumping out to you.
If you're not having fun, it's not really a matter if everyone else is; you're part of everyone, and so you need to have fun too.
>>46402786
+1 flaming sword and ranks in Perform (dance)
tada
>>46402722
>>46402778
if i was familiar and my master died i would prolly go kill rats untill I gained a single class level. not resting until I do. I would make sure it was bard too. Now I don't need to be top todd to get all the vixens I want.
>>46402836
>Aurora Soul Mystic
I think Mystic Recovery is a hassle, hence why I went through the whole song and dance of getting animus on a non mystic
>, or hell just ask if you can get the Advanced template if nothing else is jumping out to you.
You haven't seen these characters, I'm a little under WBL but the advanced template isn't fixing anything by a long shot.
>If you're not having fun, it's not really a matter if everyone else is; you're part of everyone, and so you need to have fun too.
I mean it's nice watching them do a bunch of dumb shit, I haven't gotten into another characters build because he's less of a character and arguably more of a force of nature. I just wish I could do something to a not mook and not need a 20 to do it.
>>46402930
druid*
>>46402930
>Snake familiar with one - /one/ - level in Alchemist
>I PUT MY POISON IN THE BOMBS
>>46402153
what the shit
New FAQ might make some people happy?
>Greater Feint: Greater Feint says the target is denied its Dexterity bonus to AC until the beginning of my next turn in addition to against my next attack. Is that just against my attacks, which probably won’t be more than just my next attack until my next turn, or is it against my allies as well?
>Greater Feint makes the target lose its Dexterity bonus against all melee attacks by anyone until the start of your next turn, not just you. Unless a feint ability specifically mentions ranged attacks (like the Ranged Feint feat), it always denies Dexterity bonus against melee attacks.
>>46402364Giving her the D every night
Alternatively, maybe finding a little place with food from home or something like that if she's feeling homesick? I dunno.
