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One hell of a handjob edition
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>>46208918
This card is bananas for limited.
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So did we found what was the thing hidden in the posters?
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So what does everyone think of this set? So far, I'm loving the flavor. If there's one good thing about Innistrad, it's that it definitely has great flavor.
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>>46208918
>>46208967
between this and the "put zombies = to the number of instants/sorceries in your GY" card blue looks like it's the new white for draft.
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>>46208992
Nahiri's card number, it was really stupid. I'm just waiting for the inevitable Emmy reveal in Eldritch Moon because Wizards can't write their way out of a cardboard box.
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>>46208918
>numerous elongated spoopy arms
too creepy for me.
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>>46208992
Yeah. It was lame as shit
The thigns were pointing to clock numbers that, when added up across all the posters, turned out to be nahiri's card number
Which was spoiled before the posters were
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>>46208918

Card you're most excited about in this new shit set?

Hard mode: no planeswalker

Pic related is mine.
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>>46209055
>>46209064
Damn, that was fucking nothing
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>>46209055
Maybe with the frog horror legend, the real enemy will be an even bigger frog. Or something of that nature.
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>>46209123
I can't help it I really like ghosts and still have a tribal spirits deck hanging out.

Also Relentless Dead because I dig some zimbies too.
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>>46209123
90% because of flavor
10% because I think it could be fun with the right setup
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>>46209123
This set is far from being shit. Its the best we've had since Khans and Khans was the shit.
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>>46209123
Blackula because it means WOTC has taken another step in the right direction.
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>>46209123
The card itself feels good, the art's fucking amazing, and the flavor text is as close to a home run for sheer hype as the writing team gets.
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>>46209123
I've been a sucker for ETB effects ever since I started playing. This one as well.>>46209204
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>>46208918
I want to host a roleplaying campaign in Tharkir, I loved the shit out of that plane.

Well, except when the dragons took over the clans, I liked it better when it was a clan war.
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>handjob edition

Okay this needs to stop.
Why the fuck you bunch of virgins neckbeards ALWAYS relate things to sex?
That's not the fucking point of the card, the art or of the fucking flavor you stupid retarded autist.

NO THESE ARMS AREN'T FOR HANDJOBS
NO AVACYN BOOTS AREN'T "SEX BOOTS" OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM RETARDS
NO TENTACLES AREN'T FOR SEX
NO VAMPIRES DON'T SUCK DICK
OLIVIA DOESN'T HAVE A DICK

FUCKING STOP WITH THIS WHOLE NONSENSE.
Every thread non-stop I see retarded posts like these, horny overweight 30ish losers thinking "oh may that is a sexual reference you get me XD"

STOP

KEEP

THAT

SHIT

OUT

OF

MY

BOARD

FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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I bet this werewolf slayer gives one hell of a handjob too.
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>>46209548
>This card in my Ally Rally Lifegain Drain.

I'm going to make a deck with this, and Triskaediadkaodaphobia and drain my opponent just right into the sweet spot.
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>>46209445
too low powerlevel in comparison to the old innistrad
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>>46209693
>being this mad
>being a virgin

pick both
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>>46209600

You could always have time travel. Or set the plane in Khans timeline but with a resurrected Ugin reigniting the Dragon Storms and forcing the clans to sometimes make alliances and fight together against the dragons.
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>>46209693
You seem awful tsundere, anon-kun. You must want the dick.
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>>46209693
u mad bro?
damn you sound like you'd be able to give me a good hatefuck, how muscular are you baby?
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>>46209730
>this new set made in a development enviroment that is intentionally going for a low powerlevel has a low powerlevel compared to one of the most powerful sets ever
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>>46209693
>>My board

Pleb
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>>46209714
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>>46208918
I think this card could be handy in a spirit deck.
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>>46208918
Skulk is such a shitty mechanic.
I hope they don't make it evergreen.
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>>46209693
You seem way too bothered by this.
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>>46209548
This card too. It helped me realize what they could do with DFCs. It can be a pretty cool design space when used correctly.
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>>46209797
>making low power critters useful for more than chump blocks
>shitty
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>>46208918
you are smalltime
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>>46209797
Bad news for you anon, they will probably make it the new UB shared keyword.
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>>46209445
>Its the best we've had since Khans
Alright, this is starting to piss me off for real and not like in a meme way like >>46209693.

Saying shit like
>This set is better than BFZ
>This block is better than Theros
>Best set since Khans
And other shit like that doesn't mean anything. Absolutely nothing. You could have said "SOI is a purple flying hippo" and it would prove just as much.
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>>46209693
>NO AVACYN BOOTS AREN'T "SEX BOOTS" OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM RETARDS

Wat
Literally those are fuckboots, even Maro Acknowledge it
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>>46209693

>OLIVIA DOESN'T HAVE A DICK

Are you drunk mate? As her picture says otherwise.
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>>46209843
Dad?
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>>46209797
Why is it a shitty mechanic?
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>>46209792
I gotta hand it to you that's a really ok pun
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>tfw the last good block was Time Spiral and released 10 years ago
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>>46209843
This card still makes me happy every time I see it.
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>>46209860
source?
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>>46209860
Literally citation needed.
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>>46209872
Thank you I bet you are very handsome.
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>>46209879
That's a weird way to spell Odyssey.

Have I mentioned I love discarding for madness and enabling delirium? Because I do.
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>>46209879
honest to god, this is the first set that I have legitimate hype about since Time Spiral
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>>46209693
>NO AVACYN BOOTS AREN'T "SEX BOOTS" OR WHATEVER YOU CALL THEM RETARDS

They are literally called "fuck me boots" you sad little virgin. Maybe go outside and talk to people instead of caps lock lolraeg on 4chan.
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>>46209836
>creatures only use is to attack
>low power creatures can't have utility, they must have a use in combat or else they don't matter!
I can see Wizards neo mentality of turning creatures sideways above everything else is starting to take root.
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>>46209928
You are taking it wrong, is because of this kind of retards that wizards is transforming the game into creatures:the tappening
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>>46209928
ALWAYS when a little creature with some utility is released, one of the positives listed is "can be used as chump block"

well now they can be used as a pinger
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>>46208918
So it's 2U for a 2/2 that's pretty much unblockable
Then transforms into a 3/3 that is unblockable?

Why wouldn't I just play Invisible Stalker?
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>>46209941
>>46209928
"I want to ignore my opponent completely and just cast spells in one turn to kill them because MATH IS HAAAARDDDD!"
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>>46209895
am I handsome enough to get a handjob?
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>still no skeletons spoiled

God FUCKING dammit I just want more jangly bones for my Skeleton Ship EDH deck.
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>>46209974
Spirit tribal?
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>>46209730
Besides what >>46209778 said, this set may not be more than mid-powered, but its full if goodies. Its way more consistent in quality than quite a few high-power sets, even if it lacks real standouts. It has a lot of cards that fill a small, but useful niches in all formats.
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>>46209995
As opposed to "I want to ignore my opponent completely and attack with unblockable creatures until he dies because HAVING A BRAIN IS HAAAAAAAAARRDDD"?
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>>46210005
>>46209895
>>46209872
>>46209792
Whats next lewd anons? holding hands
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>>46209995
>aggro players do math

Anon, four year olds can barely read let alone do arithmetic
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>>46210022
Wait until next block Return to Kamigawa
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>>46210035
"unblockable" doesn't mean "invulnerable"
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>>46210058
Next block is "WE WUZ KINGZ" it's already been confirmed
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>>46210005
Fine but you need to put on these handcuffs.
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>>46210013
Skeleton Legend when?
If I was designing it, it would have shit P/T but like four different ways to come back from the graveyard.
Persist, undying, 1B cast from graveyard, and if you cast a skeleton it comes back from graveyard.
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>>46209123
>Card you're most excited about in this new shit set?
Pic.
Get yer Secure the Wastes anons, standard is going to get pretty human-ey.
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>>46210036
fuck off faggot, we were enjoying ourselves until you came along
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>>46209836
>>46209869
Skulk is worthless on big guys.
On small creatures you might as well give them unblockable.

Other than that, the mechanic punish you from pumping the creature, B/U already have enough evasion abilities, it works like shit with the other evergreen abilities with the exception of prowess (and then only if you are playing an instant).
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>>46210080
Mirage 2.0?
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>>46208918
Did they get LSV to name this thing?
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>>46209693
You keep your LGBT and leftist shit out of MY board.
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>>46210103
Wait, Secure the Waste isn't human
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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It's kind of hard for me (and others I imagine) to care about sets whose cards I am never going to use because I don't play standard of casual formats like EDH.

Unless the limited format is like on roids, good enough to care over powered cube drafting, which hasn't happened in a while
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>>46210036
Heterosexual Sex in the Missionary Position but just for sake of reproduction and not pleasure
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>>46210117
>skulk is worthless on big guys
what a marvelous insight you have offered

and you pump after the declare blockers step dummy
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>>46210089
anon your kinkiness is getting out of hand
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>>46209064
But once it was solved, they released like four more new cards. That was the point.
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>>46210035
>Thinking you need more brain to play control or combo than aggro
When will this meme end?
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>>46210096
or 4/4 with Infect, Haste and Regeneration
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>>46210160
And then I put all of your card in my handcart and leave.
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>>46209123
I'm guessing that Diregraf Colossus will rise in price. That thing is insane.
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>>46210217
is your cart handmade?
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>>46210152
How many pumps as instants does B/U even have?
There is the shade effect, some ultra-old black instants, a few sacrifice based self-pumps and that's about it.

Skulk would have worked better as a W/R ability, from a purely mechanical POV.
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>>46210173
>>When will this meme end?
As soon as I am done bolting your face.
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>>46210275
Yes from a tree I cut down with my handsaw.
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>>46210296
>red angry shit
>skulking around
the fuck are you talking about
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>>46210058
I hope they make a non-creature spell heavy block. We haven't seen any proper cards since future sight with the pacts. Ok maybe some of the new phyrexia and mirrodin but that is it.

How is this shit magic? Where is the magic? Just summon shit so you can attack with it. If I played anything but legacy I would be getting pretty annoyed right now.
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>>46210325
I knew there would be a retardo doing saying that

M E C H A N I C A L
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>>46210130
There is nothing remotely leftist about that post anon.
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>>46210133
just realized that too... fucking cunts
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>>46210341
>non-creature spell heavy block.
Wow what a shitlord. Be warned that I have reported you to MaRo for being entitled and enjoying bad-fun non creature tapping magic.

Expect a Wizards attack force to be on top of you any minute now. Nothing personnel, maybe next time you will admit Theros was your favorite block ever.
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>>46210341
>playing the same deck all the time

;^)

Draft is best format, anon - A new game every four months.
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>>46210341
>NWO
>Modern mantra
>non-creature block
does not compute
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>>46209843
>additional ninety-nine creatures
There is not a single card more flavorful than that. I just wish Theros wasn't so shit in powerlevel.
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>>46210133

Anon... I just realized it... FUCK.
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>>46210416
Assuming the draft format isn't a lopsited, railroaded and boring piece of ass like BFZ and Origins (can't comment on Oath since I didn't bother to draft it once).

If that is the case then it's a shitty new game every four months or one that gets boring after 10 drafts
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>>46210416
>new

I get what you are trying to say but I cannot play a format where my creativity is limited to a bunch of cards from the same set. Especially in any set post future sight. Fuck all this creature bullshit.

I play a deck that doesn't have a single creature. As a matter of fact apart from 4 artifacts and a few lands there isn't anything that is not instant or sorcery. That is magic. Pure unadulterated, none of that filthy summoning shit, what is this hearthstone?
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>>46210490
>not doing your best discovering the best decks for all strategies

>"Anon, you played the WORST COLOR COMBINATION for this set!"
>stomp everyone with it 6-0

Accomplishments, anon. In Draft you make YOUR deck every time.
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>>46210117
>On small creatures you might as well give them unblockable.
You never played innistrad standard, did you? Unblockable + good equips = some hot bullshit.
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>>46210490
>lopsited, railroaded and boring piece of ass like BFZ
If you failed to grasp BFZ draft, you're a long way of being good at it. Triple BFZ is one of the more advanced set to draft.
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I personally can't wait to make a madness deck, if the cards support a good one.
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>>46210630
Last time around we had that invisible dude who was a pain in the ass to get rid off.
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>>46210103
As a man that owns over 10 play-sets of Champion of the Parish, my boner is ready!
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>>46209123
Vessel of Volatility
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Creatures:

knight of white orchid x4
graveblade marauder x4
arashin foremost x4
dragon hunter x4
Thalia’s Lieutennant x4
Kytheon x3
anafenza kin tree spirit x2
Hanweir Militia Captain x2
archangel of tithes x2

29

Spells:

Always Watching x4
Anguished Unmaking x3
Declaration in Stone x3

10

Lands:

caves of koilos x4
shambling vent x4
swamp x6
plains x7

21

Rate my human jank.
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>>46210526
Oh I get it. You are one of those retards that say the stupid shit for every new draft format like "Abzan aren't the best draft colors in KTKx3" or "White isn't that much better than other colors in Origins draft" or "Green is great in BFZ because I 4-0ed a swiss once!" every time a new draft format rolls in.

The kind of people that would have the time of their lives if left alone in a room with a bouncy ball and 4 walls. I suggest drafting a good cube every once in a while, maybe that will clear the braindamage over time.
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>>46210667
Invisible stalker. We probably won't see him again or else aura of saint traft is broken and the only other decks in the meta run red control for kozilecks return.
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>>46210720
Heh. Won't see him again.
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>>46210696
>No Make a Stand / 10
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>>46210630
>>46210667
That's more of a fault of hexproof than anything (funny how shroud wouldn't have had that problem, isn't it?).
But I guess you kinda have a point there.
Not that it make skulk exciting, interesting or attractive.
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>>46210715
Not him, but while you have a point, there aren't many people who wouldn't have fun in a bouncy house.
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>>46210715
No. I draft whatever I feel like and I have fun doing it. I follow my heart when drafting. I don't care about what is the best color and what not. You can make any color the best color.

Drafting cubes is fun as well, you asshole.
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>>46210696
I would honestly just remove the Declarations and use >>46210744 instead.
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>>46210752
I think even if he had shroud you could pull out some bullshit since og INN had some anthem effects and Cathars' Crusade
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>>46210696
Anafenza isn't a human
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>>46210772
>bouncy house

It's a moonwalk
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>>46210776
>You can make any color the best color.
if you're sharking noobs, you can make any color the best color
if the random composition of the draft pool cooperates, you can make any color the best color
but if you're going to be dedicating your time to this hobby and going through drafts again and again, some formats will reward your time more than others
and the color balance of the set(s) really matters for that
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>>46209123
There is only one right answer.
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>>46210744
>>46210779

>tfw I completely missed that card

>>46210793

Just like archangel of tithes, I want to keep them as 2x as they help weenie strategy and the low number of ABHUMANS shouldn't really mess my gameplan.
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>>46210776
>You can make any color the best color.
I suggest drafting with people a bit more challenging than the 11 year olds at your LGS. I mean playing with kids and retards can be fun, hell I got pack 3 pick 3 passed a Gideon at the first week of drafting BFZ and laughed my ass off for a whole weekend, but after a draft or 2 that gets very boring and if you aren't challenged there is little point to playing any game really
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>>46209693
I agree, most of these losers constantly-
>OLIVIA DOESN'T HAVE A DICK
Okay now you're just objectively wrong anon
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>>46210978
50% of the players in my store regularly play in RPTQs and GPTs. It's gotten so out of hand new players don't even want to come to our FNMs anymore because they just get crushed. The store owner is a bit salty about that, too. He talked about getting rid of Standard and Modern tournaments entirely to fix this.
Such is life.
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>>46210914
>No Danktouch

Anon....
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>>46211057
One of my LGSes made Standard and Modern events buy in optional, you only get prizes if you buy in. That way you attract tones of noob players since they don't need to pay to compete. When you have a shitload of players there's very little chance you'll play against the scrubstompers so there's less worry.
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>>46209919
Not even original Innistrad?
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>>46206503
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>>46210342
But anon red usually has decent power for what you pay. Explain how a mechanic that relies on low power works for red, outside of goblins. Wait, I do see your point, goblins are actually a pretty big part of the flavor of Innistrad. My bad
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>>46211200
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>>46210644
I have heard this about literally every recent draft format except origins while its happening and then everyone calls it crap a few years later.
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>>46211324
What a stupid ass dog name. I swear people name their pets the stupidest shit.
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>>46211324
>literally naming a dog after a cat
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>>46210914
I'm totally going to alter the art if I get one at the prerelease
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>>46211363
The only recent draft format that is going to stand the test of time as a classic is triple KTK, everything else has been at best meh.
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>>46211200
Firebreathing.
A crapload of instants that buff the power of your creatures.
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>>46211363
Oh people will call triple BFZ crap because they don't know how to draft it. It's one of the recent drafts that required the most synergy as opposed to just drafting bombs and shit.
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>>46210013
Gotta cater to our Chinese overlords as well as Tumblr, anon. Which reminds me, how the fuck did Wizards handle Theros over there? Did the whole block get skipped or something? Because there were skeletons aplenty there.
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>>46211865
they usually have the artist make a China friendly version if I recall some Arcanas from when the mothership was actually readable. Literally just gaunt skin over the bones is enough to satisfy their autism
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>>46211911
>>46211865
>China
>Skeletons

???
What's the deal with that?
Fat ignorant american asking btw.
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>>46213491
They have some law shenanigans that don't allow the depiction of human skeletons in artworks.

Many games need to alter models and artworks for the chinese market because of that.
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>>46213491
in china ur not allowed to be a skeleton, because it's rude. you amerifats wouldn't understand, it is because their society is based on an intricate society of honor system that amerifats wouldn't understand.
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>>46208918

How and where do I get started with Magic?
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>>46213577
Thats... an odd effect
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>>46213577
>SUPER DEN PROTECTOR

DUDE GREEN BEST COLOR

WHAT THE FUCK WIZARDS

No really, this shit is $40 staple right here.
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>>46213577
>people actually believed the green mythic would be Tarmogoyf

hehehhehehehehhEHhehehehe
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>>46213577
Oh my god. Oh my god. This is quite possibly my favorite card ever printed. Holy fucking shit.
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>>46213577
Good for edh players I guess.
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>>46213664
shut the fuck up yo ufucking faggot holy FUCK just fucking KILL yourself
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Is Magic the type of card game where you can just make a really fucking weird deck that no one else has, and win?
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>>46213704
yes, it's not likely, but yes.
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>>46213577
Maybe I don't get it. What's so good about this?
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Alright one more mythic now.
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>>46213704
lol no? you have to buy $500 of tier 1 staple enablers to accelerate your deck's powers into being able to win the game, anon
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>>46213718
LITERALLY
NOTHING
LOL
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>>46213577
Very, very strong effect under right conditions. Can self-mill control decks be done in the next standard? Flip Jace is still around after all.
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>>46213697
I love build around me cards. And 6 mana is very different than 8 mana.
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>>46213704
If the deck is well-planned from top to bottom and you bring luck with it, yes.
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>>46213567
it really depends
how do you get started with other games?
do you have friends already in the game?
do you have friends?
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>>46213754

BUT MUH BREWS

MUH EDH
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>>46213765
6 mana is the same as 8 mana in edh where these effects see play especially in green.

this new card is technically repeatable but generally when you resolve preaters council you tend to win.
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>>46213718
It is like a Restock that grabs 5 cards instead of 2.

And it has pretty art. I don't expect it to see play in constructed, but I love how they worded the effect and how they did away with the "exile ~" without making it easily recurrable.
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>>46213704
Yes, someone can. It's not going to be you though.
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>>46213704
Depends on the format. Standard you can usually rake in a few wins with some jank brew, possibly an entire FNM.
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>>46213754
That's what I figured. At best, it's probably 5 cards back, but then I realized for those 5 cards to be stuff you want, it probably means you're late in the game with a lot of stuff getting destroyed.

I could maybe see it splashed for it a spell-heavy control deck, but in a creature color like Green it's only helpful when you're losing
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>>46213882
It also helps a tiny bit against mill in standard, since a few degenerate fucks WILL build that.
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>>46213718
The potential to get a bunch of cards from your graveyard back to your hand.
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>>46213491
Symbols of death are culturally a thing of bad luck.

There's still a fair amount of superstition in China (and Chinese people for that matter) pertaining to bad luck. It's not real superstition, most people don't give a fuck, but it's ingrained in the culture. Imagine someone breaks a mirror in the West, while nobody would give a shit about the whole bad luck thing, but it would legitimately dwell on the back of someone's mind if something bad were to happen. Or when someone says, "bless you" after a sneeze, nobody actually cares about the connotation of that sort of practice, but it's a harmless habit.

Anyways, symbols of death like skeletons, talking about things like ghosts, the concept of zombies, bones. For example, if you had a life-sized skeleton model that you see in a science classroom, some Chinese people would be legitimately uncomfortable around it, even though they know very well it means nothing.

I'll give you another example of cultural habits. Red is considered a good luck color. You use the shit out of that color during celebrations and such like weddings. And under no fucking circumstances do you show up at a funeral wearing red or any bright color for that matter. Literally nothing red, no jewelry, clothes, don't even bring fucking red colored money (I'm Canadian) into the thing and if you do don't open your wallet to show anybody. I had a Swiss Army Knife on my keychain and someone told me to put it away.
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>>46213567
If you have friends who are also thinking about playing. You should pick booster box that has fun mechanics for the group and draft. If no friends ask yourself if you want to join standard or modern. Shit aint cheap.
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>>46213765
YEAH SURE, NOT RETURNING MULTIPLES OF THE CARDS YOU SHOULD BE RUNNING MULTIPLES OF IN YOUR CONSTRUCTED DECK IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM "RETURN YOUR ENTIRE GODDAMN GRAVEYARD TO YOUR HAND WITH UPSIDE"

YOU LITTLE GAY BOY

>>46213821
YA OK W/E ENJOY UR FUCKEN EDH THEN U DWEEB
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>>46213918
>BFZ Standard for the first time
>one guy enters with a BR Eldrazi deck that doesn't even have rares in it
>people tell him "lol man you just burned your entry money lol"
>he wins the entire FNM with his jank homebrew deck against all the other players who are regulars are PTQs and shit
>keks were had

It can happen.
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>>46209055
I want it to be marit lage so hard.

I know it's just going to be emmy, but let me dream.
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>>46213952
Oh yeah, a mindless 8 mana card with edgelord art obviously appeals to everyone.

Also, get fucked, these effects never see any play in actual constructed anyway. If all you give a shit about is legacy, cards that cost more than like 3 that you can't cheat into play don't matter.
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>>46209693
I thought this bait was shit, but you got replies
>5/10
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>>46209502

Lorthos, the Freshmaker?
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>>46213577
I think they've conceded that green mythics belong to EDH

This doesn't even say permanents, though. You could easily get four cards, 0-4 drops, back off this. There's plenty of good 2 and 3 drops and spells. A decent number of 1 mana spells, and then an evolving wilds or something.
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>>46213974
>>46213915
>>46213918

I once made a Duel Masters deck when that game first came out when I was like 12 or something. I raped all the employees at the event and almost won the tournament. I coached an 8 year old into beating a 20 year old, too.

I think I can manage, fellas.
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>>46214025
wat
Lorthos was from zendikar, and it's dead.
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>>46213925
i mean you would almost never mainboard this card. but it could definitely be sideboard tech even in a creature deck if standard shapes up to be fat and slow midrange decks vs other fat and slow midrange decks where the game is just decided by the long and slow grind for card advantage. think of it this way. greenwarden of murasa is a 3 for 1 except because it's a creature it has a big tempo advantage over restock or this thing. spending all your mana on turn 6? you better at least put SOMETHING on the board. and greenwarden of murasa never saw play even when midrange decks were popular.

so yeah, card isn't gonna see play.
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>>46214025
Lorthos is dead bro.
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>>46214025
lorthos got ripped in half bro.
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>>46214061
Don't hold your breath, man.
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>>46214061
Sure sure.
Don't forget, /tg/ always exist for you to came back and whine about p2w, tryhards and netdecks once you get stomped to the floor.
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>>46213978
Imagine you're sitting in some Wizards creative meeting. Someone says, "Let's make the monster Marit Lage". Let's forget for a moment that we just left Zendikar and this was all setup. Let's pretend that Zendikar did not preceed this and just blind-side people with a tentacle monster on Innistrad.

Do you know what would be the single greatest problem with Marit Lage on Innistrad would be?

"New players would get confused with two gargantuan tentacle monsters. Can't have people circlejerking over which tentacle monster is superior, it would dilute the Eldrazi brand."
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>>46209862
It's "feminine penis".
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>>46210670
Is the Champion of the Parish Black?
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>>46210103
Guys is human tribal going to finally break into modern?
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>>46214160
Can I blame NWO for this.

If I find and knock some teeth out of Mark Rosewater will everything be fixed.
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>>46214245
No.
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>>46214245
>Thalia's Lieutenant
>Champion of the Parish
>Mayor of Avabruck
what else?
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>>46213567
Go to a local with a shirt with a shitty anime or vidya reference on it, attach yourself to the first sperg who compliments you on it, and get him to loan you a deck for the day.

Once you've learned, build your own by lighting your money on fire in a sacrifice to WotC and then start winning.
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>>46209693
>not knowing /tg/ is /d/-lite
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>>46214253
You can blame anything you want for this. But it's not the real cause. Whatever makes you sleep at night, though.

The real cause is Magic players being dumb as hell and not caring at all about the lore. That's why they hang the fruit REAL low. Now everyone and even Spike can figure out Emrakul is on Innistrad while also feeling smart about themselves they figured it out.
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>>46214270
Knight of the White Orchid, Thalia, Fiendslayer Paladin, Mirrodin Crusader.

Hero of Bladehold if you want to go all the way to 4 drops.
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>>46214332
Add in aether vial and it feels like it should be a decent little deck but I don't how good I am at these things. Plus aren't Eldrazi still running Modern? That might be an issue.
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>>46214253
NWO has nothing to do with this. NWO only pertains to common and uncommon complexity.

This is completely an issue of players being so fucking stupid that they must associate one thing on one plane to a similar thing to another plane, even if they have nothing to do with each other. Take tribes, they all have the same name, if I like this vampire, I'll like that vampire - it doesn't fucking matter if someone made the effort to have those vampires have syringes for fingers and those vampires as aristocrats, the players are just all in love with vampires - the word.

It would work the other way around. Tentacle monster - that's our binding concept. The Eldrazi own the concept of tentacle monster now. Kraken and octopi are just giant versions of animals. But tentacle monsters are solely the purview of the Eldrazi. If you introduced Marit Lage and explicitly told players it wasn't an Eldrazi, people would lose their shit especially as Marit Lage can beat Emrakul in an arm wrestle. What's the point of loving Eldrazi if there is this OTHER fucker out there who is even more nightmarish and horrible. If Marit Lage ever came back, she would have to be the progenitor of the Eldrazi, the players could not handle it otherwise.
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>>46210696
I'm very new at this game, but wouldn't you want that "Champion of the Parish" card as well, the one that gets bonuses from being played with a lot of humans?
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>>46214472
That decklist is for Standard. Champion of the Parish rotated out of the Standard format 5 years ago.

http://mtgsalvation.gamepedia.com/Standard
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>>46214366
In -theory- Eldrazi shouldn't be as good after one (or two, who knows how Wizards is feeling) of their sol lands are banned.

And I was playing a hate bears list against one of the removal lite colorless Eldrazi decks and you know what surprisingly stonewalled the fuck out their creatures? 4-5 power of first striking creatures.

Of course that was early on. The U/W list that's taken over obviously doesn't give a shit with drowner of hope
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>>46214460
I just want to blame this on one asshole instead of the nebulous retardation of the common man.

Eldrazi are so fucking dumb.
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>>46214553
>anger issues
>irrational
>posting tanks

Anon, I think I have some news for you...
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>>46214580
is it terminal, doctor?
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>>46213697
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>>46214549
Got a list senpai? I'm making a Modern D&T deck and deciding where to go with it.
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>>46214747
kek
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>yugioh foils are pretty as fuck
>magic foils are also disgusting rainbow garbage

it's a bad feel
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>>46214862
shame yugioh mechanics are so shitty
I used to say "still a better TCG than yugioh" (about Pokemon, Duel Masters or w/e) back when "still a better love story than twilight" was a meme
that is how bad yugioh is
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>>46214789
I mean depends on your meta since there's no real great catch all shit like Mother of Runes in Modern.

Off the top of my head

4 Thalia
4 Leonin Arbiter
4 Flickerwisp
3 Serra Avenger
3 Kitchen Finks
3 Blade Splicer
3 Restoration Angel
2 Mirrodin Crusader

4 Aether Vial
4 Path

22 Lands total
4 Ghost Quarter
2 Tec Edge
1 Sea Gate Wreckage
Rest plains. Could sub in an Eiganjo Castle or Flagstones if you like.

That all doesn't add up to 60. There's 2-3 flex spots I'm constantly shifting around. Right now I'm trying out a mainboard Wilt Leaf Liege and an Elspeth, Knight-Errant.
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>>46214994
Oh, also trying out 2 Eldrazi Displacer mainboard right now.

Note, I don't pretend to be an expert and the modern FNM at my store hasn't really happened in like a month and a half. I'm hoping it picks up again with Eldrazi nerfed
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>>46213577
I like the flavour text a lot actually.
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>>46215096
It is completely benign.
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>>46215109
Yeah it's pretty generic green regrowth effect shit but that's it's happening in what looks like a church to avacyn makes it kinda neat
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>>46214747
oh god im dying lol
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>>46215138
Trust me, I getcha. I love it too. I just wonder what it is about the whole package.

http://magiccards.info/query?q=ft%3Aseeds&s=cname&v=card&p=1

Here are all the cards currently with the word seeds.
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>>46213925
>but then I realized for those 5 cards to be stuff you want, it probably means you're late in the game with a lot of stuff getting destroyed.

Or running self-mill or looter effects.
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>>46215138
Reminds me of Descendants' Path.
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>>46213925
It depends on your deck. I'm currently playing a very creature lite, removal heavy Mardu deck.

When I go up against Mardu Green and other variants it's not uncommon for both of us to have a graveyard full of removal spells, draw spells, and creatures and an empty board each at Turn 6.

Against a more aggro deck yeah it's probably not what you want
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>>46209730
Fuck off and die.
We're not getting snappy 2.0 or Geistlectric boogaloo.
This is a good thing.
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>>46213577
card advantage for tempo decks is dank. Then you realize EVERY deck has graveyard hate. It would be nice if modern came in flavors besides linear aggro and graveyard dependent combo.
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>>46213577
sick-ass combo with inverter of truth and a kill combo made of cards on 1,2,3,4,etc

someone find that combo
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>>46215844
>card advantage for tempo decks is dank.
what
there should be an iq test before you're allowed to post here
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>>46216050
I don't get you, Inverter of truth ---exiles--- your library.
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>>46209123
Because I'm nofun
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>>46216050
Do you know how Inverter of Truth works?
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>>46216174
>This Tamiyo was on to something.
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>>46214994
Have you tried Matter Reshaper? Looks pretty good when it works on like 90% of your deck.
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>>46209056
Meh, it's only multiple elongated arms. They don't have multiple elbows. Multiple elbows would make it way creepier.
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>>46216174
lol that flavor text HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA im dying
THIS TAMIYO WAS ON TO SOMETHING
HAOEUGAHOGHOAWGN
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>>46216174
Now that I think of it, this isn't bad for control is it?
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>>46216249
I don't understand
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>>46216174
>draw first then untap
that's nice of them.
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>>46216275
In standard, it sets up an easy madness effect with the discard + untap lands to pay for it. Plus the obvious card advantage.

In eternal formats, it fills the same role as compulsive research, but works well with high tide.
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>>46216280
le epik bad flavor text may may
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>>46211911
I did know that in general, just more of a specifically-Theros question. I guess these days it's cheaper to alter existing art, but I couldn't find anything current to demonstrate what Wizards did for that set in China, just older shit like a bunch of Drudge Skeletons alters. Bet there would've been an Arcana like you suggested that covered at least one of those cards though, stupid broken website.
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>>46216275
no? it's shit for control. it's only good if you need it for madness. and in that case, it's still not a good card, it's just a necessity to enable you to pay your stuff at madness cost instead of their regular costs.

control wants to play this at instant speed, generally speaking untapping 2 lands so you can have countermagic up would be worse than if it were simply an instant and you could cast it on their end step. the discard is additionally a downside. "but muh madness!" normally at 5 mana, you want to just draw 3 cards unconditionally. the discard is bad because it means you need to have a madness card or else you don't even get 3 cards!
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I wonder what the introduction to Tamiyo's journal reads. Obviously she states it's her book.

The whole thing as a plot point is so fucking retarded. Jace has obviously read the thing and thinks there is still a mystery as the flavor text shows. Unless Tamiyo is retarded did she not state once some speculation as to what was happening on the plane? Was she just filling her book with nothing but observations? No half-assed conclusions?

Hey, there's this fucking Planeswalker skullfucking everything here with rocks. Maybe you should mention that in the journal. Maybe you ought to mention that there's another Planeswalker building a zombie army.
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>>46213658
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>>46216438
What kind of dumb motherfucker still trusts blurry photos.

I don't care if it is real. Anybody who can't take a proper photo with even the shittiest phone deserves not a single ounce of credibility.
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>>46216429
Tamiyo is not much of a fuck giver. It is probably mostly doodles of the moon.

Her being an impartial empirical observer is in character from what we've seen so far. She doesn't have a dog in this race. After all, she did fuck all for humanity when Avacyn was gone.

I don't know what gets her to give a shit. Maybe Jace mindfucked her?
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>>46216438
aaaaand its shit
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>>46216536
pretty sure that one is fake though who knows maybe it isn't but something looks a little off in the image.
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>>46216438
please be at least a 3/4
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>>46216438
Since when have they're been lhurgoyfs on Innistrad? Most likely fake, especially since they cut off the card number with the photo.

On other notes, we still don't know the cmc or name of that wolf from the early leaks do we?
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>>46216438
227/297 > Second Harvest
228/297 > Silverfur Partisan
fake confirmed
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>>46216438
hahaha, oh man. People claiming they would get the goyf...
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Also the legit leak website is joowz not joows
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>>46216580
Oh yeah, a 2 mana 5/6. Surely two goyfs won't hurt any formats.
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>>46216438
>>46216476
>>46216536
>>46216572
>>46216580
It's been known fake for weeks, it uses the old Madness reminder text and even if it got that right, we already got our green mythic that fills in the missing gap in green. Seasons Past? Not that far up in the topic?
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>>46216645
even if it was a 5/6 it is still very different from original goyf and worse

>>46216651
white has two mythics, blue does as well
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>>46216103
What type of modern deck would you run this in? Now think...
Oh that deck type has better options for draw.
Oh that deck type can't have a curve that high.
Oh that deck type is already too soft to graveyard hate.
Oh that deck type wins before this becomes relevant.
Oh that deck type has already won if it has this much mana.
and you're left with a very limited set of decks that can actually run this card. Tempo style control decks that are encouraged to curve out being one.


yes, there should be an iq test before you're allowed to post here.
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>>46209693
>he's mad.jpg
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>>46216747
>6-mana sorcery that doesn't affect the board

That's the OPPOSITE of tempo. It's durdling.
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What's the ruling if you have O,MFW and you bust out another O,MFW? Does the 2nd Olivia gain the counters since you choose which Olivia you have to get rid of (per new legendary rules)?
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>>46216429
To be fair, this is the lady who enjoys floating around while writing on multiple scrolls that are also floating around.

I wouldn't be surprised if she has a handful of journals, and Jace just found the 'basic observations' journal, while she's still carrying around all the ones with the answers.
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>>46216912
yes if you discard a card, the new olivia will get +1/+1 counter and have haste
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