pepe edition
>>46202987
First throat wolf then pepe, truly we are blessed
>Life from the Loam
>Crucible of Worlds
>Titania, Protector of Argoth
>>46202987
How many spoilers are left? I'm kinda out of a loop.
Eldritch Moon spoilers when?
>>46203017
some
>>46203030
I want to fuck that dog
>>46203017
163/297 have been spoiled.
Still a fuckton of cards to go
Skulk
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may discard your hand, then draw that many cards
>>46203055
Thanks. And spoilers are revealed what, each day? every two?
>>46203055
Mostly commons and uncommons, though.
I think there are like 5 rares left, and mythics were all spoiled.
>>46202987
Please tell me the frog is playable... please...
>>46203060
Are you ready for top tier?
>>46203079
some every day.
>>46203087
There are 15 mythics as well as the double faced mythics I think wee still have 1 or 2 left right?
>>46203079
right now every day.
Friday should be full release day though.
Like this guy said >>46203087
most of the stuff left is commons/uncommons
>>46202987
Is there a way I could abuse this in a Knight of the Reliquary deck?
Theros
>gays
>asexual
Tarkir
>transgender
>austistic
BFZ
>?
Innistrad
>?
>>46203144
More like:
Tarkir
>The best modern commander
>>46202987
All hail the Gitrog!
All is sacrifice!
>>46203030
I dunno, I really want immerwolf's last ability stapled to moonmists last ability on an enchantment.
>>46203162
Are you the same faggot pushing that shitty lumberjack meme?
>>46203060
>>46203106
4x Just the Wind
4x Magmatic Insight
4x Tormenting Voice
4x Jace, Vryn's Prodigy
4x Oath of Jace
4x Sphinx's Tutelage
4x Fiery Temper
4x Huehue Zombies
2x Chandra Flamecaller
26x whatever lands
>>46203106
Is mill viable in Constructed now?
>>46203087
There are two more mythics to be spoiled still.
>>46203253
>Cranial Archive out of standard
>Lots of Discard 5+ Draw 5+ effects
I hope they print something of he sorts to recover your graveyard otherwise its goign to be pure suffering
![hedron_alignment[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/m5xobEB.jpg "hedron_alignment[1].jpg")
>>46203060
>>46203106
Alt wincon?
>>46202987
>blighted woodland
>harvester troll
>that new guy that brings back lands
>some more shitty ramp
Is it happening?
![7Wrcg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/YzMZcvj.jpg "7Wrcg[1].jpg")
>>46203287
>>46203359
Neat
>>46203359
Lol these cards
>>46203359
>X2GU
>>46203359
>KAWAII X2GUUUU
>>46203359
Not bad.
>>46203359
I like it. Art is hilarious too.
>>46203359
At worst it's an uncounterable clone that costs Green as well.
Well that doesn't mean much given that nobody plays clone.
>>46203422
Speak for yourself, this is a great tool for my Biovisionary
>>46203447
>this is epic for the win for my casual deck
ok? The same can be said for literally every card ever
>>46203469A card does need to be viable in best format
>>46203359
>Rhino 9-12
>>46202987
holy fucking shit. My assault loam deck will love this frog.
>>46203519
Rhino rotates out you dummy
B/G/R, here I come
>>46202987
BG always gets best commanders
>>46203579
>3 Colors
>On this standard
Lmao, have fun with your lands and manabases that will enter tapped like the 60% of the time.
>>46203602
I know, just stuck deciding which I want more, B/G or R/G.
>>46203359
Oh Christ this with biovisionary in EDH makes my dick ultra erect
>>46203359
What the hell is going on that art?I like it
>>46203359
Maybe in Roon EDH, I don't know. It could be cool as a late game finisher.
>>46203308
How are you planing to exile it, splash white for Angelic Purge?
>>46203566
Now I feel stoopid
>>46203632
While I think Red and Green both got some very strong tools this set, I don't think they synergize well.
Why are people not talking about this?
>>46203783
What is this implying?
>>46203359
Best art so far.
>>46203783
You can mark as spam on mythic comments?
>>46203783
What? Snap? It can't be it.
>>46203802
Tarmagoyf, i'm not buying it though, it could be any green card whose name is in between st and ti.
>>46203802
Impending Tarmogoyf reprint
>>46203835
It absolutely can't.
>>46203783
Oh boy, a card that goes alphabetically between ST and TI. So what? It isn't Tarmogoyf, don't be retarded, it doesn't fit with delirium.
>>46203880
>>46203783
>>46203864
There are no lhurgoyfs in Innistrad, I'm pretty sure.
>>46203880
>doesn't fit
Alright anon whatever you think
>>46203486
Except that it's not viable in Legacy ??
>>46202987
I'm sensing a land sac theme this block
>>46203880
>Tarmogoyf doesn't fit with Delirium
It's basically proto-Delirium though
>>46203783
>WotC
>Printing 200$ card in a booster msrp less than 10$
>>46203951
Incoming Smallpox reprint.
>>46203880
>A card that counts card types in graveyards doesn't fit with an ability that counts card types in graveyards.
Go eat a bowl of thumbtack soup.
>>46203920
That's not le epik EDH so its not le best format XDDDDD
>>46203887
Obviously Tarmogoyf is the monster in the moon.
>>46203783
>>46203802
>>46203835
>>46203864
>>46203865
>>46203880
>>46203996
This only means that #231 is Stoic Builder, #233 is Tireless Tracker and that we don't know #232 name yet
>>46202987
post the pepe version please
>>46203973
>>46203916
Not him, but you are aware that Ghostfire wasn't reprinted in BFZ block because it would look weird given that it didn't have devoid, the keyword, even tho it was actually devoid, right?
Nothing stopping them from using the same excuse twice. But it is curious we haven't see the green mythic yet given that most of the time they spoil monocolored mythics first unless it's a multicolor focused set like Khans
>>46203951
I think it's there to help enable delirium, since it's harder to get lands in the grave than a lot of the other types.
So this is useless beyond frog-fodder and even then it's not great, so presumably something will be referring to it by name this set or the next yeah?
>>46204017
here you go, friend
>>46204046
It's a cute combo with aggressive mining
>>46203663
>>46203806
Definitely one of Kev Walker's better artworks. I like it as well.
>>46203783
Well, they have been withholding the green mythic...
But I'm with >>46203983
>>46204046
I'm sure someone will find something to do with that and Dust Bowl on legacy or something.
>>46204122
>6 mana to destroy a nonbasic and get the land back
wasteland + loam already exists, yo.
>>46203359
it was so funny when people could safely predict the cost to be X?UG because of the placing of the x in the puzzle piece spoiled
it could have been 1 but everyone was just like "it will probably be 2" and you could really feel the resignation about wotc slapping costs on cards just to prevent them from being playable outside anything than garbage limited
>>46203916
>>46203973
>>46203996
Look, you wouldn't have a mechanic that is very similar to, but not quite that mechanic in a set.
It would be like introducing Fateful Hour and then having a card that randomly cares about 10, 5 and 1 life.
Plus, wasn't there already a shitty tarmo clone with delirium spoiled?
>>46204189
It is a clone with double upside.
Clones cheaper than 4 have drawbacks, not upsides.
>>46204198
That 4-5 mana wurm that gets counters at the start of each turn?
>>46204216
>>It is a clone with double upside and 1 downside
Fixed.
>>46204238
whats the downside?
2 color cost?
>>46204291
double color and 2 colors at that.
>>46204216
yet Phantasmal Image is better than this
so is Phyrexian Metamorph
my point is, that his would be actually playable in constructed if it costed X1BG or XBG
but with X2BG it is just limited trash
personally I find this a bit sad because they just waste card potential by adding unnecessary mana costs to everything
and they are doing this quite often for some time now
>>46204238
What's the downside?
>>46203359
Shit compared to phantasmal image.
And if phantasmal image doesn't see play in modern, alter ego wouldn't either.
>>46204362
>but with X2BG it is just limited trash
Good. Now I can safely draft this because people won't just money-pick it.
t. draft player :^)
>>46204362
>BG
stop
>>46203144
Holy shit, do you show up to every thread to repeat this?
>>46204404
Throat wolf shows up again.
>>46204378
>phantasmal image doesn't see play in modern
>>46204362
Phantasmal image isn't strictly better though, they tried to make it with upside and downside it just turned out the upside was greater
Phyrexian metamorph has broken Phyrexian mana making it strong
Other than those two, which are obviously better than basically any other clone (clever impersonator honorable mention), this new blue green clone is one of the better clones if only because you're paying the same cmc but getting uncounterable
Clones are basically only good in edh anyway so idk why you're complaining that they didn't make a new clone that was not only uncounterable but lower cmc than a normal clone
>>46204410
The worst thing about 4chan right now is that posts like that are still going strong.
>>46204362
>>46204394
messing this up for years now
I'm retarded
LIMITED PLAYERS REJOICE!Not that great but I'd draft it.
>>46204463
Thats incredibly shitty in every single aspect. Jesus fuck.
>>46204362
One thing you don't understand is that Altered Ego is really hard to be a dead draw in a control or midrange matchup, unlike Phyerian Metamorph or Phantasmal image
>>46204362
XUG uncounterable clone that enters with X +1/+1 counters would literally warp the whole standard format. You wouldn't be able to play creatures with cmc larger than 3 because your opponent is just going to get a better version of it for cheaper.
>>46204463
Sheer Drop dropped by and it said you are gay.
>>46203783
It could be "Sylvan" something
Inexorable Mass
2G
Creature - Ooze
Delirium - Whenever Inexorable Mass attacks and there are at least four card types among cards in your graveyard, put a 3/3 green Ooze creature token onto the battlefield tapped and attacking.
>>46204436
Metamorph also has the big upside of cloning artifacts and being one himself
but the funny thing about him: while he is definitely playable and constructed viable he is far from being broken - he isn't even part of any upper tier deck
and for Alterede Ego
the uncounterable clause is just useless
what creature do you want to clone against a blue deck anyways?
XUG with X can't be 0 would have been a fun playable card with a more straightforward design
I am simply complaining about another card that will vanish into oblivion once it leaves limited
I find this to be a waste
>>46204463
Kinda okay. I'd draft one but i certainly don't want two. Looking at the uncommon rarity, small chance to get two on a draft pod anyway.
>>46204003
He looks nothing like a shrew, and he only has 4 legs
>>46202987
>>46204050
Slightly improved version.
Keep meme'ing on my friends.
>>46204495
>not be able to play Timmy shit
>punishing Timmys
and this is a bad thing?
I bet you own a playset of Rhinos
>>46204532
>he isn't even part of any upper tier deck
Vintage says you are full of shit my brother.
>>46204489
it can be a good check for madness if it gets too powerful
>>46204463
Smite the monstrous that costs one more and is uncommon as opposed to common, all it gives you better is investigate, I would say not good.
>>46204532
It's not going to vanish though, it will be played in the format where clones are extremely powerful
>>46204537
The fifth leg is his monstrous Tarmo-cock prominently featured in the new art.
>>46204463
This is just bad. Although I suppose it could be nice to topdeck this in limited late game.
hmmm thinking of a loam pox deck with that frog as edh
Last mythics when?
I want to know if Timmies will be disappointed.
>>46204675
probably 1 tomorrow and 1 Friday.
>>46204707
or it could be 2 tomorrow and big common/uncommon dump Friday.
>>46204422
So what Relentless Dead and Geralf's Masterpiece?
>>46204725
Yeah with the lack of undying and unburial rites, etc im not sure how easy it's going to be to trigger this guy
>>46204675
You got a fat instakilling 6/6 frog for 5
>>46204776
Now that you mention it playing in Innstrad and Shadows Over constructed block would be amazing.
>>46204378
>What is merfolk
>>46204776
I'm hoping it gets some toys to play with in standard, but I could also see it as just being designed as a fun trick for EDH/Casual (mostly using old Innistrad/zombie stuff).
>>46204777
>5
>66
>777
N I C E
I
C
E
>>46204516
I like it. Green in this set is pretty cool.
>>46203144
Who was the asexual, the moonman planeswalk?
Also don't forget this set has lesbianism any nigger angels
>>46204776
Hopefully we get a few more zombies that work with it
>>46204021
To be honest, Ghostfire should've been printed in Khans. See:
>Ghostfire's original art
>Ghostfire Blade
>Ugin's presence
>>46204450
I am a fucking weirdo, but I am glad that kind of socially misadjusted sperg posts that plague 4chan like that never come to my head. a little bit less of a reason to kill myself, i guess
>>46203359
I wish this had flavor text
>>46204925
>lesbianism
What? Where?
>>46204463
>m-muh limited envoironemt, wotc-kun!! g-give me muh limited environment
>ah yes, u-ucan put y-your member in my wallet, s-senpai
>>46204978
The two wolf hunters in the first story
>>46204422
Can you discard him as one of the cards to get back Geralf's masterpiece, then he comes back too as a creature has entered from the grave?
Okay, that's it, I know why all the cards spoiled so far are shit. Yes, indeed they are absolute garbage except for one or two rares, but this time the commons and uncommons are going to be the shit, like Treasure Cruise 2.0, Wizards is making all the good cards common this time, they're saving Magic, no more 100$ playsets if you want to get into Modern!right?
>>46204971
"OH, YEAAH!"
-Alter Ego
>>46205028
absolutely, the cost is payed and it's in the graveyard before Masterpiece hits the field
>>46204925
Ashiok did not have a gender
>>46204881
Green has been cool in the last 5 years
SWERVE! COMMONS COMING THROUGH
>>46205037
Sure thing. Also goyf is getting a common printing as well.
>>46204046
Titania edh says otherwise.
>>46205037
Good, kill yourself, one less shitter that have no idea about card evaluation to spam /tg/
>>46204463
I'm not wearing my glasses so I thought this cost 1W and thought that was pretty alright, Valorous Stance but with a clue instead of another option
fucking 5 mana?
>>46205037
no, SOI is mostly complete garbage. I know I shouldn't, but I always waste money buying standard sets. I think this is where I'm over it. Nothing about this set excites me whatsoever. Flip Avacyn is the coolest thing, and I barely want her (not to mention she will be $50 as people desperately try and push any value at all from the set)
>>46205101
Look! Another set in which they have the same cards they always have, but it a tacked on mechanic plus one more mana casting cost!
>>46205129
>no, SOI is mostly complete garbage
Still not BfZ level garbage
>>46205101
Seems a bit overcosted considering make a stand is in the standard especially.
>>46205132
What else do you expect the set mechanics on? On cards they've never done before?
>>46205132
I wonder if we are going to get Mind Rot with Investigate and 1 more mana or Mind Rot with Delirium that exiles the cards instead.
>>46205101
>investigate
who's investigating exactly, the zombies?
So is G/B Delirium Aggro gonna be a thing? We no longer need to worry about different types do to >>46204455
>>46205101
cool with odric to stop the whole team from dying, and with Zada you get to investigate a lot of clues
>>46205122
>fucking 5 mana?
Put your glasses, it's 3 mana
>>46205164
just about BfZ garbage
Oath is a genuinely good set and BfZ is a fun draft set. Also most BFZ eldrazi and allies are pretty good for casual. It's mostly the noncreature spells that are overcosted garbage through and through.
I didn't like og Innistrad though so I'm really biased on this matter.
>>46205101
So it is make a stand only instead of giving all your creatures indestructible it only gives one, but don't worry it gives you a clue!
>>46205217
You need to put on your glasses, look what he is replying to
>>46205164
Worst sets tier list:
Born of the Gods < Battle for Zendikar <<<<< Homelands < Mercadian Masques < Saviors of Kamigawa
>>46203752
I do feel that Green and Black seem to be going together fairly well this set though.
>>46205252
fun thing though is that valorous stance more or less replaces both of the cards that were just posted but for cheaper! I really think that investigate is being valued too highly in terms of mana cost.
>>46205101
I feel like they're pricingg investigate the same way they price cantrips, which is stupid because investigate already has the cantrip tax built in.
>>46204925
Nobody has cared about lesbians in forever.
>>46205312
other lesbians do.
>>46203359
I think people underestimate how much the +1/+1 add to that card. For 2GU, you get a copy of the best thing on the battlefield: that's a typical clone, it does a great job of stabilizing the board, it's always been decent-to-playable, we're used to that. But for 3GU, you get a bigger copy of the biggest thing on the battlefield. You have board advantage. You're now able to eat in combat whatever that thing you copied is. And that sounds like a big deal. You're not reaching parity, you're doing better.
That has to be worth the mana cost.
>>46203783
I know it is impossible yet I want to believe. We haven't seen a green mythic from SOI.
>>46205260
I think SOI is going to have similar power level to Theros block
as Saviors is not that bad of a set
>>46203144
Nigger angel.
>>46205364
>Saviors is not that bad of a set
are these the lies you tell yourself at night?
>>46205260
Why is dragons maze not on that list?
>>46205378
Because it is higher than Saviors
>>46205378
It had Voice of Resurgence
>>46205260
As someone who once had the misfortune of buying Homelands booster packs as a kid, the implication that anything is inferior to that triggers me.
>>46203008
>throat wolf aka katlyn jenner
>>46205334
When have clones ever seen play?
>>46205474
i don't know, it had memory lapse, merchant scroll and joven's ferrets
>>46205489
birthing pod + phantasmal image combo
>>46205489
All of them in Limited, casual, EDH.
Espcially good clones like Phantasmal Image and Phyrexian Metamorph see Constructed play.
Clone is a fairly costed creature, a 3-mana clone is generally too powerful and a 5+ mana clone is unplayable. So a 4-mana clone with double upside is a good card. Only a retard would think they could print that card with a CMC of X1GU or XGU.
>>46205451
Saviors had Kataki and Ideas Unbound I think.
>>46205355
Well, Green DOES seems to be heavy on graveyard interaction this set.
>>46204579
Nigger, slash Panther was played in vintage, just cause it's good in vintage doesn't mean it's playable anywhere else.
>>46205480
This is what I was talking about I don't think it is what you were.
>>46205540
Kataki's a sideboard card and ideas unbound gets used in combo. Voice saw major play in standard and continues to do so in modern.
>>46205569
>Slash Panther
Why would anyone run it ?
>>46205569
>>X card isn't played in upper tier decks
>It's actually played in the best deck of Y format
>>Well it doesn't count because Y format is Z (excuse/insult)
Okay kid, move the goalposts harder nexttime
>>46205533
Every card is a good casual card.
Like every other clone this card is shit.
>>46205601
a land and a black lotus means it can attack turn 1.
>>46205645
>black lotus
Oh, right, Vintage
>>46205601
Ignore this ignorant retard who thinks anyone is going to waste on lotus on it >>46205645
It kills Jace and is "free" or close to it when playing shops. Better answers have come since then but once it was used.
>>46205601
>>46205645
Shop used it to kill JtMS.
>>46205645
also kills jaces without much room to respond, and being an artifact makes it interact with things what be good in vintage. it was a weird little corner case of effectiveness.
Whats going to be banned on the 4th?
>>46205631
I don't know if you're the anon arguing that this card should have costed XGU but I'm going to reply as if you are. You completely misunderstand why clone is a bad card in your favorite formats. It isn't because of the cost, it's because of the effect. You don't want to be playing clones in any format in which you could go multiple games without ever seeing a creature on your opponent's side of the table. Or, even if they do have creatures, you never get to untap after they drop it.
You want an effect that isn't designed for Modern or Legacy to be so ridiculously undercosted it manages to see play there despite the fact it's not a good fit by nature. Without considerations for any other formats. Do you have any idea what that card would be like at XGU in Limited, EDH and casual?
To reiterate, Clone is a fairly costed card, and it would be fucking retarded to undercost it so much it starts seeing play in formats in which that effect is generally bad.
>>46205745
Eye if Ugin
>>46205745
Brainstorm from legacy and bolt from Modern :^)
Lamplighter of Selhoff just got officially spoiled here is the full art for it.
>>46205778
We Silent Hill now.
>>46205745
We don't know yet though something from eldrazi is guaranteed.
>>46205778
So what's the card
>>46205778
Aren't there too many stitches?
>>46205778
Who is the fuck is Selhoff? I think he needs to get some glasses if he needs this much light to do his thing
>>46205763
I am not that anon at all, clones are universally bad and saying making them well costed for their effect would make them see play is pretty fucking obvious.
>>46205809
newbies anon, everyone's gotta start somewhere.
>>46205805
It got spoiled in the actual leak a while ago.
>>46205778
TOO BAD THE CARD IS FUCKING SHIT
>>46205817
I think it's a place.
>>46205825
>universally bad
In formats like Modern or Legacy. Other formats exist you narrow-minded tool.
>>46205833
He's a pretty big guy 4U.
>>46205860
Here it is
>>46205857
They're bad in commander, Conspiracy draft and standard.
They're also bad in "casual" because you could be running a vintage deck.
>>46205833
Yeah it is really bad, especially since there isn't really much good stuff for madness in blue, I guess it lets you get targeted discard for delirium, there are still better ways to do that though.
>A low drone echoed in her skull, growing in volume, as she fell into the endless hole of the Gitrog's gaze. She fell, tumbling through oozing shadows, fell through the crevices of her mind, collapsed through the membranes into the spongy slime of delirium, cocooned by a strange warmth seeping into her bones and chasing away the pesky cold of doubt and fear and uncertainty. She knew, knew everything now. She saw truth in its blackest form, the clarity of a thousand lifetimes compressed into one moment.
>She heard him then, finally surfaced from the drone in her skull to hear his gasp of surprise, his breath turning from the ragged pant of hypothermia to one of pain and shock. Mia smiled softly and put a finger to his lips, sliding the dagger out, then back in again, this time through his abdomen. She smiled as Wilbur slumped against her, smiled as he whispered her name weakly. She whispered quietly in his ear.
>"All hail the Gitrog," She breathed more than spoke. She put her ear to Wilbur's chest, listening as his pulse slowed and stopped. She looked up at the Gitrog, bowing her head in supplication
Literally hypnotoad's big brother.
O-oh...
>>46206049
IT'SOK__
>>46206049
Would draft except when I'm playing 23 spells.dec.
>>46206049
looks like they are posting the ones that have already been spoiled now.
I expect this to be the next card they spoil.
>>46206049
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2s29LFTPH8
>>46206107
>can block 8 creatures
Cute
>>46205831
>>46206049
>>46203060
man the new skaabs kinda blow design wise
>>46206119
>on a spider
>didn't save it for an octopus
i'm mildly upset.
>>46206134
Yeah, I really liked the idea of the old ones being good power/toughness for their cost, but needing creatures in the grave to use them.
These new ones are basically just normal blue creatures using discard or other typical blue effects.
>>46206135
An octopus holds something down while a spider is catching something from the air.
>>46206179
RIP Lorthos, you will be missed.
>>46206179
a spider is also less likely to do something completely different with each leg.
>>46205918
Fuck you for saying all clones are bad, you wanna see a clone deck that,wins? Consistently among he likes of Malstrom Wanderer, Prossh, Memedrazi, and other shit? Take a gander, fag.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/shima-shima-the-cutest-cosplayer/
>>46206199
I'm still torn over that story
>>46206170
That too, but I was more referring to how they look art-wise, I just don't get that same zombie horror feeling original innistrad gave.
>>46203359
>THE CHOICE IS MADE
>THE TRAVELER HAS COME
>NOOOO! NOBODY CHOSE ANYTHING...
>...
>...
>I couldn't help it...
>It just popped in there.
>>46206255
You're a monster.
>>46206255
LITERALLY
>>46204463
>5 mana used to be a board wipe
>Now it's conditional removal with tacked on mechanic
N
W
O
!
>>46206255
I can't believe Lorthos jobbed so hard, they should have at least let him hit Kozi a few times before dying.
>>46206255
What happened to Lorthos in the lore?
>>46203783
If it is RIP the cost of standard yet again
>>46205101
I've been enjoying the lore of these investigate cards, but I don't get this one.
What exactly is she investigating? Nigga is just fighting for her life.
>>46206320
That entirely block was basically just a series of different people jobbing. All the victories and defeats felt so unsatisfying.
>>46206326
Literally got karate chopped in half by Kozilek.
>>46206276
Well, that just boosted this thing from neato to one of my favorite spoilers so far.
>>46206312
5 mana is still a board wipe, it's just there also tends to be some very expensive spot removal in any limited environment.
I still feel like a five mana kill something (conditionally) should be a common, but I guess it investigates, too?
>>46206326
He dead yo
>>46206333
She's inspecting the type of work used to reanimate these corpses so she can send a formal letter of complaint to the proper ghoulcaller about their inconsideration of her beauty sleep.
>>46206333
Maybe she has to survive the night because the house she is investigating with vital information is also crawling with zombies.
>>46204516
Neat. I really like Bladehold effects.
>>46206276
kek
Man it feels like Jund would be really good but the manabase looks subpar.
