Pathfinder General - /pfg/
"yfw the BBEG ends the world, but he didn't mean to" edition
Unified /pfg/ link repository: http://pastebin.com/XehJXVjp
Old Thread: >>46159461
First for this thread was still posted too early
I know this is a pathfinder thread but I was unable to find a 3.5 thread so I was gonna ask here.
I'm interested in making a mage sniper class in case my character dies. So as it stands I'm looking at
Kobold
Spellthief 1/ Sorc 5 then either spellwarp sniper or unseen seer
What do you guys think? Spellwarp Sniper or Unseen seer?
Holy moly I didn't realize just how hard this campaign was going to crash and burn.
I mean I guess I knew from the first session, but it just devolved into a freaky PvP where I had to cut down a player and just walk away from the table.
Has a short sword always been piercing only? I remember only seeing it be slashing only, but when I was browsing Archives of Nethys and D20PFSRD it looks like it's Piercing only. Have I been looking at it wrong all this time? Did Paizo errata it?
Post your bizarre character builds
>>46168289
Storytime.
>>46168305
>mfw all of that
>>46168290
Piercing only since 3e
What, you thought they were any less retarded than Paizo?
Why don't vampires in your settings use psychoactive skins to protect themselves from the sun?
>>46168351
Because that's stupid and that art is shit, same as last thread, now fuck off.
>>46168342
Holy fuck I don't know why it's gone over my head all this time. Or did I enter the Berenstain universe?
Reposting because no answer last thread.
If an Inquisitor with a Longspear and the Intercept Charge feat readies an action to brace against a charge, then an enemy charges one of his allies to trigger Intercept Charge, does the Inquisitor get to make his readied attack?
>>46168306
For the record, this was that gestalt campaign from way back when that I was constantly bugging /pfg/ about, the one with me playing a Zweihander Sentinel/Oracle (Apocalypse) that turned out to be a Necropolitan.
Well, after slogging through three railroaded sessions with an alright GM but absolutely terrible players (I'm talking "one's a shark skinwalker that's always in half-shark form and another owns her collar" tier bad) it came to a head when my character's undead-edness was revealed.
Well, I've already been making a name for myself as the resident asshole by constantly criticizing the... Odd choices in things to push by the other players (such as the Kitsune insisting she get gang-banged by some tentacle monsters) so when my character pulled off the mask and showed his face was a rotten skeleton, the shark-girl decided it was now or never and initiated combat - some bullshit about how she was going to eat him to seal his evil (she claimed some Aasimar in there... Somewhere.)
Considering she was a choppily built Slayer/Brawler and I was using PoW content, you could see where this was going. My character cut hers down, her fuckbuddy tried to backstab me, he got cut down, and when the two players were bitching on Skype I just said, "fuck this" and left the call, unfriended the lot, left the game and never looked back sense.
I'm still trying to calm down from it all.
>>46168351
Because I run Eberron and vampires don't really have a presence above-ground.
>>46168487
Sure, why not?
>>46166695
>>46166956
>>46167515
>awoo memes
never change , /pfg/.
>>46166739
>>46166916
This is actually just me theorycrafting a character and considering different combinations. Just wanting the fluff of Agathian/Idyllkinpun intendedand using the base Aasimar was mostly just because Psychic Armory is Wis-based. I have no idea how the Eidolon suit would actually interact with a Panalopy of Blades.
>Be noodle-armed awoo with no idea what the fuck he's doing or what's going on, just knows he can summon swords and transform into a giant wolf
>Take required feats for Psychic Armory, dump evolution points into defenses and mobility
>if there's a spare feat and evolution points, toss some backup natural attacks with power attack in there for kicks
>completely ignore summon monster SLAs, barely pay attention to summoner spellcastingI become far too dedicated to memes.
>>46168281
I'd go for unseen seer, that way you can add the ranger spell to get an additional +6d6 sneak attack. Although, actually, spellwarp sniper is probably better for a sorcerer base.
>>46168567
Because Readying an Action specifies that you can't move more than 5 feet during a round in which you ready an action, but since the movement would be in response to the triggering action, it seems fuzzy
>>46168510
Sounds like a bad time all around. I really don't know why people can't keep their magical realms to their goddamn selves unless they've been specifically okayed/asked to display them.
I guess I'm not one to talk though, becauseloving hand-holding between two consenting individualsis my magical realm.I want to marry Greta, but I can't get anybody to play RoW with me. ;_;
>>46168627
Why are you posting Ammy and calling her a boy?
Ammy's a girl! A dumb, inattentive girl!
>>46168659
I don't see how that's magical realm, in fact that's just normal adult behavior.
>>46168652
No, it says "You can take a 5-foot step as part of your readied action, but only if you don't otherwise move any distance during the round."
>>46168665
She doesn't look dumb or inattentive. Also, I was not aware the wolf in that game was Amaterasu.
>>46168704It's an /a/ meme.
>>46168665
I'm posting Amaterasu while talking about a male PC, because she's a celestial wolf and the PC in question is an Agathian Aasimar. If you want I can go find other giant wolves to use with my character pitch shitposts.
>>46168742
So I can only use the Interception to protect an adjacent ally while still dealing the double damage from bracing then.
>>46168659
I'd play RoWas a depressed Gillman Sorc.
>>46168746
>She doesn't look dumb or inattentive.It's a joke in Okami that Amaterasu doesn't pay attention to long conversations.
>>46168763
Is that a double-headed glaive?
>>46168773
You can ready an action, they charge, then you can move in the path of the charge, make your readied attack, and then make an AOO (assuming you have a reach weapon)
>>46168774
>Cha-based
GET AWAY FROM MYAWOO...FU? I am not good at this.
>>46168784
Ah, fair.
>>46168804
Looks like some kind of staff to me, but I don't know shit bout Dark Souls.
>>46168510
>"one's a shark skinwalker that's always in half-shark form and another owns her collar
I thought you said this was Pathfinder, not Catan.
>>46168823
But what if I have to move more than 5 feet to get into the path of the charge?
Don't hide it from me, /pfg/
Tell me about yourweapon
>>46168659
>>46168774
>>46168837
>Going for the wolf when there's an iron chef Nereid in Book 4.
>>46168885
Those are some awfully high heels for a wilderness fey.
>>46168659
My party killed Greta and for some reason the GM made everyone from Irrisen a Canadian from South Park. Elvanna was Scott, the dick.
>>46168897
>depressed Gillman going for anyone
You fool.
>>46168898
Gotta show off that assyou're not allowed to look at.
>>46168913
>My party killed Greta
Explain, you're not even supposed to attack her.
>>46168897
>not wanting to wed the moeblob
>>46168913
Absolutely awful. I hope the rest of your party died horrifically.
>>46168885
What the fuck is wrong with her back?
>>46168849
HA! I GET THIS!
>>46168954
She's a huldra. They're fae. If I have to spell out more than that, you're abaka.
>>46168936
Sometimes you just don't let That Guy play a paladin.
>>46168954
That's actually a thing Huldra have in old folklore.
Would it be too metagamey to play all the way through RoW just to romanceAnastasia? I want to protect her smile.
>>46168954
Huldra are fae that pretend to be people and take husbandos using charm person as an SLA.
They're wood on the inside, so they're only good for titjobs
Neat! New Pixiv Fantasia updates.
>>46168885
I'm wielding a Large Spiked Tower Shield. Because its one size category larger than me, my DM allows me to gain cover from it if I fight defensively.
>>46168804
>>46168837
It's a Greatsword. Specifically its the Greatsword of Artorias. That wolf, The Great Grey Wolf Sif, was the faithful comrade of Sir Artorias the Abysswalker, but when Sir Artorias was consumed by the Abyss and died, Did took his sword and used it to fight and avenge his master. After Artorias was avenged, a grave was erected in his honor, and so did continued to use his blade to guard his master's Tomb, and to protect all from obtaining the power of Abysswalking, so that none else may fall and be consumed like his master before.that is until you kill him, you horrible murderer
>>46168993
That sounds disgusting, I wouldn't waifu a monster like that.
>>46168208
What are some builds that are viable at 5 pt buy?
I have an idea for a Commoner Quest game, but I want to make sure there's more available to the players than "I'm proficient with stick."
>>46168954
The Huldra are woodland spirits that typically take the form of beautiful young women, the only thing revealing their true nature being a tail (hidden under a skirt), a hollow back, and sometimes lynx ears.
The thing about a Huldra is never *ever* mentioning the tail, and those who can see it without actually saying they saw it are awarded with aid from the Huldra.
>>46169023
wizard
>>46168885
Which reminds me, did Gareth throw in Huldras as a playable race in his feybook?
>>46169014
Talking about on the guy's back. The sword looks nothing like a glaive.
>>46168804
>>46168837
>>46169014
They mean the pole on the back of the player character. That's a titanite catch pole, it's a polearm used by titanite demons.
>>46169014
No, not in the wolf's mouth, on the dude's back.
>>46169023
Literally nothing. Even a Wizard couldn't get by with that little.
>>46169023
Wizard, Psion, Soulknife kind of, Sorceror, Vizier, support cleric.
>>46169014
I think he's talking about the Titanite Demon staff thing the CU is using.
>>46169021
It usually happens the other way around, with the Huldra luring in a man and getting him to marry her. Their entire thing is encouraging someone to take them to church and get properly married because, if that happens, they become fully human.
>>46168993
Nah, you can totally fuck a Huldra like any other woman, it's just doin' them from behind becomes an issue.
>>46169021
Mythologically speaking, they are the most waifuable, and most faithful of all Fae waifus
Mainly because their massive humanaboos, who love the idea of living like Humans, raising big and loving families, and going to church.
Just to point out her back-hole. They hate it when you do that, and go to great lengths to hide it. Often the same with their tail.
>>46168885
>Tell me about your weapon
I rolled a PsyArm with mind daggers and additional configurations. I ain't got the time to explain all of them.
>>46168990
Isn't she like 13? And shell-shocked? And her dad is the BBEG of the book who you have to kill?
>>46169104
>and most faithful of all Fae waifus
Unless the man is unfaithful to her, in which case she's prone to tearing him apart.
There's an entire story of this too, with the man treating the Huldra like shit until she grabs a red-hot horseshoe with her bare hands and bends it straight, warning him she can do the same to him anytime she wants.
>>46169158
...her dad is Tsar Alexander II, isn't he?
>>46169079
Human Wizard 1
8/12/12/17/10/7
or
Middle-Aged Human Wizard 1
6/12/12/18/11/8
And just hope you don't run into anything with STR damage or drain.
Totally serviceable, you can make a Wizard with a PB of 0 that'll still contribute to the party.
>>46169158
>dad
>Rasputin
You skipped History class, didn't you?
>>46168305
Jesus christ Bleach got stupid... Which is kind of sad cause I liked it when it first started makeing runs on toonami
>>46169171
Since you can't move more than 5 feet as part of a readied action, does Intercept Charge nullify the Brace if you move more than 5 feet, or does it count separately since the Interception counts toward your next round's movement?
>>46169194
Personally, I preferred the show when it was called Yu Yu Hakusho
>>46169023
Alchemist? Vivisectionist because you're going to have no bombs, and if you start with a 12 Int and dump all the leveling points into Int you should be able to cast all your spells at the appropriate levels. Plus since you don't have DCs for anything relevant your relatively low Int isn't as much of a hindrance. Then you just buff yourself and go into combat.
>>46169181
Nah, they went with the (maybe true anyways) rumor that Tsarina Alexandra was banging Rasputin. Anastasia is his daughter, and thus Baba Yaga's grand-daughter, and thus a rival to Elvanna's claim on the throne, which is why Rasputin's gone out of his way to hide her and keep Alexandra's ghost locked up.
>>46168305
You know this just gives me an idea.
Can I gestalt crossblooded sorc with another crossblooded sorc so I can have 4 bloodlines?
>>46169181
>>46169191
Having run RoW, you're both wrong. It's kind of a big deal in the campaign since she can seat the throne of Irrisen.
>>46169235
I don't think you can gestalt with two of the same class
>>46169023
Synthesist Summoner, dump STR.
>>46169235
No, you can't gestalt the same class, even with archetypes, which are PF's version of ACFs.
>>46169235
No. Is there a crossblooded Bloodrager though? That could work if there is one.
>>46169265
You explicitly can't gestalt with Hybrid Classes
>>46169191
Get rekt, nerd.
>>46169184
Blegh. It really just guarantees that nobody will play anything but T1 spellcasters, which are generally not the kind of thing peasants just magically turn into.
>>46169228
I did not know this. I will now proceed to forget it so I don't accidentally metagame.
>>46169235
Sadly not possible, even though it'd be hilarious. >>46169265's idea will work, though. You can be the descendant of a family that fucked literally everything that moves!
>>46169286
Where does it say that? You can multiclass with hybrid classes just fine, it's the alternate classes (Ninja, Anti-Paladin, Samurai) that you can't combine with their parent classes.
>>46169292
What.
>>46169286
Uh, what? That's completely incorrect. Hybrid classes didn't even exist when gestalt was created or when it was ported over to PF. Shit, they're hardly even really "hybrids," they're just classes that steal class features from other classes and slap them together.
>>46169295
>You can be the descendant of a family that fucked literally everything that moves!
There needs to be a way to take Racial Heritage more than once.
>>46169286
>>46169307
>>46169330
Gestalt isn't even Pathfinder, it's 3.5e. This guy is full of shit.
>>46169330
>>46169307
You're right. My mistake. I was thinking of the alternate classes
>>46169292
>conceived at their first meeting
Wow, I'm not even gonna feel bad for her if she's that much of a slut.Okay so granted he's an 18th level caster it probably wasn't up to her but still
>>46169292
>Paizo
>casually raping history
Why am I not surprised?
>>46169265
If you take levels in a class that also gets bloodlines, you have to take the bloodlines you already have.
>>46169428
Reminder that the only person in the company who studied history was Jessica Price, who studied Mesopotamia.
>>46169434
There is, of course, the stipulation that your DM can handwave that. So if your DM is down for you being from a family of huge extraspecies sluts, it's fine.
>>46169428
>Paizo
>Elves are prehistoric space aliens from another planet.
>But you can interbreed no problem. Here! Half-elves.
>>46169428
>>46169457
>actually complaining about historical accuracy
>in a book about fighting magic zombie WWI troops and cyborg tanks
>wherein Rasputin is a literal magic oracle trying to pierce the First World with a drill powered by his mom's spirit
>>46168973
>baka.ADULTWORLD
DULTWORLDA
ULTWORLDAD
LTWORLDADU
TWORLDADUL
WORLDADULT
ORLDADULTW
RLDADULTWO
LDADULTWOR
DADULTWORL
>>46169516
I love how Paizo made Elves into prehistorical space aliens and have proceeded to do LITERALLY NOTHING WITH THAT FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS.
>>46169194
>Watching anything produced by Studio Pierrot ever
>>46169209
You mean "Tournament Arc: The Series"? I doubt that, and this is why.
>>46169558
>By the way, Pathfinder is just another galaxy somewhere in the same universe.
>Here's a portal to Earth where you get to fight Mother Russia
I'm still disappointed that they just started carving out parts of their continent to add new places to add "Flavor of the month archtypal" settings.
You want Ninjas? They live here. Witches? They live here. Cthulu? Oh, he's one of ours. You want laser beams and future technology? They've actually been here the whole time. Spain? I dunno, Taldor?
>>46169295
>You can be the descendant of a family that fucked literally everything that moves!
Okay, so grandad is an Aasimar and grandma is an Ifrit from my father's side and granpa is a Tiefling and granny is a Huldra from my mother's side.
What does that make me?
>>46169184
Those are 11 point buy and 16 point buy respectively, not 5 point buy.
>>46169023
Wizard with 7/10/10/18/7/7.
>>46169662
He showed the stats after racial modifiers.
>>46169104
Well, the tail is easy - just get a bag of holding effect on a ring that can fit over the tail.
>>46169635
Hence why the first five arcs of the series where the best
>>46169662
Racial and age modifiers, fuckass.
>>46169644
You're forgetting the part where they're now giving sections of the planet to developers that want to make their own OC donut steel realm.
They've just stopped giving a shit.
>>46169654
Half-Aasimar / Half-Tiefling with the Celestial, Efreeti, Abyssal and Fey Bloodlines.
Also, in a world full of fantasy races, I'm surprised there aren't MORE players who're doing this kinda of backstory shenanigans more often.
>>46169709
Did they ever?
They kind of just piggy-backed on D&D 3.5 without making ANY changes to the wordings of things and there's still no errata for half of that shit.
Pathfinder setting is ass.
Pathfinder system pre-hybrid and -unchained is good.
With Spheres of Power, why do Alteration options go from "Concentration duration" at level 1 to "Permanent duration" at level 10 with nothing in between?
>>46169635
>"Tournament Arc: The Series"?
God, old shounen anime was shit and unimaginative.
Stat me, by the way.
>>46168208
List from best to worst by plan the BBEGs in the APs.
>>46169709
>Holomog is in Southern Garund
>The artwork for Anuli is vaguely Western European in architecture
>They defend this as "it's our setting, it doesn't have to follow the real-world."
>Coming from the people that put the Not!Congo in the Congo and put the Not!Egyptians where Egypt would be.
>>46169826
whoops. forgot my pic.
Stat this
>>46169810
Because you can always spend a spell point to extend it without concentration, and you can only ever have one permanent one active on a yourself at a time.
>>46169849
>spend a spell point
But that's just 1 minute/level.
>>46169868
10/level with a certain talent I'm pretty sure, and if you're focusing on Alteration, what else are you using your spell points on besides that?
>>46169846
Suli elemental knight 1
>>46169846
Ifrit Sorc with Efreeti Bloodline
>m-muh ninja training
barely mentioned anymore ever since he got those dragons.
What are some good gestalt combinations /pfg/?
>>46169911
Arcanist//Psychic.
>>46169911
Paladin/Oracle is the undisputed god of gestalt combinations.
Slayer/Investigator turns you into Geralt of Rivia.
Brawler/Barbarian makes you the coolest Brawlbarian to ever brawl.
Cavalier/Paladin, become the holy knight you've always wanted to be.
The Land of the Linnorm Kings is based on several nordic nations, right? Viking culture in general? What exactly is it that fascinates /pfg/ so with it?
>>46169194
It was good when it was just fighting ghosts and occasionally having slice-of-life school stuff. It was even good when we met all the other Shinigami and their kooky swords. This was many years ago. Now it is a manga that had a filler arc.
>>46169911
Depends on what you want to do. Some solid all-rounder ones are:
Stalker/Vitalist
Warlord or Paladin/Oracle
Warder/Alchemist
Druid/MysticYOU TOO CAN BE A POLAR BEAR FIRE BENDER
>>46169940
Psychic is crap.
>>46169911
Wizard//Sage Sorcerer and Oracle//Paladin or Antipaladin are great. Cleric or Druid//Empyreal Sorcerer is also good.
If 3PP is allowed, the strongest possible combination is probably Psychic Mage Wizard//Collegiate Initiate Arcanist, since you can snag almost to all the good spells and powers from the Psion, Wizard, Cleric, and Druid spell lists.
>>46169947
Well, I think a part of it is that it's undoubtedly a MAN'S WORLD. Parties under level 5 are advised to stay the fuck out of the country, and rulers are chosen based on who's ballsy enough to go out and murder a fucking Linnorm in single combat.
>>46169911
AntiPaladin / Dread
roles: intimidation, party face, crowd control (built properly, any enemy fighting an antipali/dread will suffer sicken, shaken, fatigued, poisoned, nauseated, frightened, panicked and dazed")
Paladin / Lore Oracle
roles: party face. supreme tank (CHA to saves and AC. Oracle spell list throws in even more defense spells)
Construct Rider / Siege Mage
roles: party crafter. Build an Iron Man suit, Baymax, Zoid, Gundam, whatever
Spellslinger / Hexcrafter Eldritch Archer
roles: kill fucking everything with named bullet + disintegrate combo
>>46169947
It's Scandinavian culture in general, though I'm getting some slight Norman vibes from White Estrid and Danish from Sveinn Blood-Eagle.
/pfg/ loves it because it's one of the few regions in Pathfinder, probably the *only* region in Pathfinder, that was given the thorough combing treatment by Paizo and actually came out BETTER, which is amazing since normally Paizo's comb-overs ruin the area they're focusing on.
It's a region built on numerous concepts /pfg/ loves, such as heroes being treated as heroes, reputation being a legitimate game mechanic, and a detailed thralldom system allowing players to actually steal "people" during raids for wealth and fame.
Plus it's the land of buxom blondes.
>>46169911
Monk/Synthesist Summoner
>>46169911
Aegis / Synthesis Summoner
Yo Dawg, we gave your arms some extra arms and then some more extra arms so you can pounce while you can pounce and then pounce some more
>>46169943
>Cavalier/Paladin
>Order AND Religion telling you how to be.
>Spend most of the game choosing which bonuses to lose.
>>46169911
Any Class / Alchemist
Because alchemists are just that flexible in any role
>>46169947
You mean what fascinates /pfg/ specifically? Dream of a harem of waifus from around Golarion, including Ulfen women with superior genes, Osirion noble ladies, kidnapped Tien women, and kidnapped Kitsunes (for fluffy tail, not for breeding). This is at least 80% of discussion had in this General about the Land of the Linnorm Kings.
>>46170099
Relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu8rR5EQvDc
>>46170081
Alternatively,
Ectopic Artisan and Summoner are the headaches of DMs who absolutely loathe mutiple rounds of hogging action economy
>>46170033
Wow, I was going to ask "what's a good build to grapple a linnorm to death", but apparently all linnorms have Freedom of Movement as an Ex ability.
Are there any abilities around that let you ignore a defender's Freedom of Movement when grappling?
>>46170132
Hey wait, isn't that Mark the Red in the back?
>>46170129
You're forgetting that the Land of the Linnorm Kings is not some pansy-ass Qadiran society. You need to be at least 5th level to survive there because its an uninhabitable hole for weaklings but a great place if you're a battle-hardened PC. And strength and power is the true measure of worth in that society. Not birthright, nobility or wealth.
>>46170192
Tetori Monk.
>>46170099
Or you could play like a Templar or Teutonic Knight, Militant Orders are essentially Cavalier/Paladin.
>>46169911
Skald / Monk
>>46169911
Wizard/Witch
Two familiars, a black and white cat.
>>46170132
>>46170211
>Zombie Orpheus
Yep, that's Mark alright.
Anyone got info on Ultimate Intrigue's new weapon?
>>46168290
>>46168448
Just use Gladius.
> Benefit: Feats and abilities that affect short swords apply to the gladius.
>>46170231
>strength and power
Ah, yes. The sledgehammers wielded by brute beasts in place of higher thinking.
>>46170232
Nine levels? Ow.
>>46170382
>Not birthright, nobility or wealth.
>Missed reading comprehension
Embarassing
>>46170231
I'm not forgetting it, I'm just highlighting the thing /pfg/ cares about the most: waifus.
>>46170382
Strength of mind and the power of one's will counts, too.
That's how White Estrid got her throne.
>>46170423
The problem is you seem to be implying that being a musclebound lunkhead is any more admirable than being an entitled fop.Clearly both are inferior to Wizards.
Jesus christ bloodragers are the most MAD class ever
>>46169911
Promethean/Preservationist Alchemist || Any INT-based class
>>46170459
What if the other side wasArtisan?
>>46170459
>tfw playing an Ulfen Sorc who went to Varisia because he knows he'll never amount to much in Karlsgard
>nobody in Varisia likes him either
>>46170458
It's about the same as Paladin...
>>46169911
What does /pfg/ say to a warlord/summoner?
>>46170456
A wizard wouldn't settle down in some frigid hell for some lusty tart in a barely-there dress
>>46169832
Unity
>"When the history of my glory is written, your species shall only be a footnote to my magnificence."
Ydersius
>gets to dress up like Terminator and stop all over Garund screaming "AH'M BACK", no real threats to his domination unless other gods step in
Elvanna
>amazingly clean job of usurping Baba Yaga, although she might end up fighting Rasputin over the spoils, so not quite top-tier
Jhavhul
>becoming a spawn of Rovagug is pretty sick, even if you did it for a silly-ass reason; good luck getting in Ymeri's pants bro
Ileosa Arabasti
>technically being manipulated by a Kuthonite dragon but gets immortality and superpower templates so I guess it's fine
Hakotep
>rules a country, is a badass mummy with a badass flying pyramid, solid accomplishments all around if not huge ones
Xin
>probably conquers Varisia, is kind of terminally insane though
Allevrah Azrinae
>doesn't exactly gain a lot but does cause more destruction than most anyone else
Nyrissa
>does steal a whole kingdom into a bottle, Carmen Sandiego approves
Ecarrdian Drovenge
>not sure what you were trying to accomplish bringing more devil worship to Cheliax but I guess you did it, good for you core-rogue guy
Kerdak Bonefist
>stays king of pirates, does manage to fend off a Chelish fleet which was happening PCs or not, did actually learn a lesson about properly establishing tyranny
Anamurumon (the Jade Regent)
>there's not even much of a plan here, he mostly just keeps the power he already had
Adivion Adrissant
>lichdom and freeing Tar-Baphon not as planned, but at least he's still got resources to draw on and isn't really worse off
Barzillai Thrune
>genius loci isn't that great Bazzy, this wasn't really the best use of your resources, you could've just stayed a mythic bone devil and been fine
Storm King
>"haha, now I, a fighter, shall conquer the world with my single dominated dragon, wait who are all these casters invading my castle oh god"
Karzoug
>wait a sec Leng r u trying to trick me
>>46170486
Slightly more so, Paladins get heavy armor
>>46170458
Not really. Played properly, you only ever need STR and CHA. Spells can easily compensate for poor AC.
Also
>Caring about AC ever
worst. defense. ever. absolutely worthless past 9th level
I haven't been around in a while. Just how waifu-y is Land of the Linnorm Kings?Feel free to include illustrations in your explanations
>>46170501
Mostly because he can make his own pocket dimension with lusty tarts in barely-there dresses, I suppose.
>>46170456
The truth is complicated.
The Ulfen value above all else that people follow through with the spirit of their values and traditions, rather than simply following them. For example, by law any man that shows up with a Linnorm Head to a city may proclaim themselves Linnorm King. This is their right, one that Opir Eightfingers and Sveinn Blood-Eagle have both done. However, Opir Eightfingers showed up to Jol with a rotten head all alone, ignoring many of the assumed rules of the Linnorm Hunt which, while not technically illegal, defeats the *spirit* of the hunt. For this reason Opir is seen as the least of the Linnorm Kings, more sniveling worm than man.
On the flipside, Sveinn is seen as a living legend by the Ulfen because he performed his hunt in full view of third parties, following every rule of the hunt to the letter, and defeating a Linnorm in fair combat. He did the same thing Opir did, but since he did it "proper" he is seen as a "proper" king.
That is what the Ulfen value.
>>46170501
>Lusty tart in barely-there dress
But anon, Ulfen love wearing their thick furs and heavy coats,doesn't stop 'em from wearing naught but jewelry underneath, though.
>PC becomes an Alchemist because his mom lost her mind permanently to Harlot Sweets and he's hoping to create a cure
>Cognatogens are only the first step, his eventual hope is to engineer something properly +INT -CHA
Is this kosher?
>>46170524
And bloodrager got medium armor + dr. Also Blur,Displacement,Mirror Image,Fly etc.
>>46170404
FoM is a bitch.
>>46170652
Potions of permanencied fox's cunning are a thing you know. Its a very cheap thing worth only 2.5k gold.
>>46170577
>Just how waifu-y is Land of the Linnorm Kings?
It's the land of tough buxom blondes and exotic Not!Asians, it's got the largest Tian population outside of Tian Xia.
It's also the land of Huldra, Skinwalkers and Kitsune. Given the raiding culture, thralls can be acquired anywhere from Nidal to Osirion.
>>46170620
All I'm really hearing you say is that one man cheated to win but the other won fairly, and the people have more respect for the second than the first. Isn't that true mostly anywhere?
>Ainz is a lich
>He has some martial weapon and armor proficiency
>He has access to both wizard and cleric spells
>He can use detect magic, speak with undead, speak with animals as SLAs
What class was he before he achieved lichdom?
>>46170703
I didn't think you could apply metamagic to potions, but I'm not seeing anything that explicitly prevents it.
>>46170803
Cleric/Wizard
Bought an Ioun Stone for "Proficient in Martial Weapons" and an Ioun Stone for "Proficient in Heavy Armor".They're his eyes.
>>46170703
>Potions of permanencied fox's cunning are a thing you know
[citation needed]
>>46170828
Pathfinder's garbage with Metamagics. Wording hasn't changed since 3.5 on any rulings metamagic related.
>>46170828
Permanency isn't metamagic, but yes, metamagic can be applied to potions and spell trigger or completion items; they're priced at the full spell level and adjustment, however, regardless of what reductions the crafter happens to have.
>>46170803
>He has some martial weapon and armor proficiency
He doesn't actually, he's shown being incapable of using weapons without his magic armor that grants him proficiency, so it's less like magic armor and more like a body-slot Transformation item.
As for the rest, maybe he's a Mystic Theurge? Plus permanency for Tongues or Arcane Sight/Detect Magic is pretty cheap.
>>46170857
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items#TOC-Magic-Item-Creation
citation provided, faggot
>>46168305
Exemplar Brawler/Standard Bearer Cavalier/Battle Herald is looking pretty cool for inspire courage shenanigans. Grab the Phalanx Fighter feat from Path of War and a longspear with Banner of the Ancient Kings for more fun.Only problem is that BH requires the Challenge ability, but does not advance it at all.
>>46170752
See pic, the Ulfen value respect and "living right" more than anyone else in Avistan.
>>46170895
Literally what are you on about? Nothing in the magic item rules anywhere allows permanency to be applied to potions, even if you're one of those faggots who thinks they can get away with unlimited-use-spell items for a few thousand gold.
>>46170954
Brew Potion requires the caster (alchemist/wizard/whatever) to have the spell in hand to craft the potion. Just like crafting wands and scrolls, this means they can also be subject to metamagic during the crafting process.
>>46171019
Permanency isn't a metamagic, dumbass, it's a 5th level spell.
>>46170803
He has spells that let him do martial shenanigans. He is literally the definition of "wizard outfighting the fighter" because he's so much higher level than pretty much everybody except his minions.
>>46171019
Permanency isn't metamagic, it's a spell.
However, you can use it on any existing spell effect, so it's a moot point.
>>46171066
>any
Wrong. Try again.
>>46170803
According to the wiki this is what he has
Total Level 100
Racial Level
Skeleton Mage (15)
Elder Lich (10)
Overlord (5)
etc (10)
Job Level
Necromancer (10)
Master of Death (10)
Eclipse (5)
etc (35)
>>46171066
Wrong, there's specific lists of spells that can be made permanent depending on spell target and caster, and fox's cunning isn't on any of them.
>>46171102
>>46171086
The point was that it doesn't have to be cast at the same time as the original spell.
And that list is just a preconstructed set, what is and isn't permanency'able is totally GM fiat, even the spells on that list.
>>46171061
>>46171088
He's got cleric spells right?
iirc, wasn't there a spell clerics had in 3x that gave them full BAB like a fighter + haste?
>>46170895
> If you discover a loophole that allows an item to have an ability for a much lower price than is given for a comparable item, the GM should require using the price of the item, as that is the standard cost for such an effect.
Wait, so how would you go about making a melee fighting Wizard?
>>46171102
>The GM may allow other spells to be made permanent.
>>46171135
Roll a Magus
>>46171116
Appealing to GM fiat in a rules discussion wastes a lot more time than admitting you were wrong. There's no such thing as a potion of permanencied fox's cunning.
>>46171125
I'm pretty sure the concept of arcane and divine spell lists doesn't exist in Yggdrasil. I think they just learn the spells they want.
>>46171173
>Appealing to GM fiat in a rules discussion wastes a lot more time than admitting you were wrong.
It's in the rules text, dude.
>There's no such thing as a potion of permanencied fox's cunning.
I never said there was, fuck off.
>>46171135
Orc
Wizard
Arcane Bond: Orcish Greathammer
Transmutation School (+1 in STR)
>>46171116
>>46171163
>Hey guys, I can totally just cut off the BBEG's head from across the room without rolling any dice. What do you mean, cite a rule that lets me do that? GM FIAT I CAN DO WHATEVER I WANT SHUT UP >:C
>>46171211
Players aren't GMs, horse fucker.
>>46171195
When your entire argument boils down to "the GM might let me even though the rules don't say it's allowed", you don't have an argument.
>>46171226
Which is why players trying to cite rules can't claim that permanent fox's cunning or permanent potions are a thing, goatfucker.
>>46171277
You're acting like it's impossible for such a thing to exist and it isn't.
>>46171277
One GM says yes and you're just gonna be bombarded with "I told you so"s up and down your asshole.
Anyone who plays Organized Play isn't even gonna get to craft magical items, so you don't even have to complain.
>>46171312
PFS is shit, who cares.
>>46171135
Transmutation School for Floating Bonus. Use Alter Self,Monstrous Physique to fight.
craft Agile Amulet of Mighty Fist if you wants to go Dex route.
Encantado waifu in an AP, when?
>>46171326
Then what's you issues with GM's being able to say "sure"?
>>46170652
Tell him to roll a wizard and get the Wish spell
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/w/wish
>>46171292
Not him, but it's a moot point to discuss this outside of your group.
When discussing things here (or any other forum), any "table variation" should be consider as not available.
>>46171355
I'm not that guy, so I have none. I'm >>46171292 that guy.
>>46171330
>>46171277
>46171195
>When your entire argument boils down to "the GM might let me even though the rules don't say it's allowed", you don't have an argument.
Except the rules do say it's allowed. The description of permanency states "The GM may allow other spells to be made permanent." It's not people just saying "The GM can do whatever they want.", it is specifically listed in the spell in question that you can talk to your GM about getting spells other than the ones listed made permanent.
So.. What's the CMD of Augemented small aether elemental's telekinetic maneuver?
10 + 2 (BAB) + 3 (STR) + 2 (DEX) + 3 (Deflection) = 20? Do I get -1 penalty for being small if I'm using SU ability to grapple?
>>46171330
That's a dude. No nipples, no vagina.
Encantado are technically mammals and have massive, hairy, pulsing vaginas.
Enjoy your waifu.
>>46171445
[citation needed]
>>46171330
Probably fucking never because they already did an aquatic AP. Maybe if plucky CG rebels liberate Hermea?
>>46171578
Don't gives JJ the idea..
Hey /pfg/, I'll be building a Humam Elocater soon (blasting Wilder as a base), and was wondering what types of feats would work best for it? What kind of feats should I be taking if my strategy will be darting past and between enemies, and blasting/slashing targets of interest?
>>46170620
And wings. Don't forget the wearing of wings.
Via what means could a group of high level adventurers open a treasure chest with a lock that is impossible to open by picking, WITHOUT resorting to something that would destroy the chest or the lock?
>>46172279
Knock.
>>46172304
Already tried that. Knock won't work, it's basically the same as picking in this case. The DC for opening the lock is too high for us to succeed on, whether doing it mundanely or with a Knock spell.
>>46172365
Custom research a Greater Knock with higher bonuses.
>>46172279
Become incorporeal, enhance a glove with ghost touch once it's inside the chest, use that to teleport the contents of the chest out of the chest.
>>46172365
Get a really really small creature with Dimension Door and use that to get it in and out of the chest with its contents.
>>46172279
What's the chest made of? There are spells to shape wood and stone, so they could use those to open the side of the chest, take everything out, then close it up again.
If it's made of metal, though (or if reshaping it once counts as "destroying" it, even though it's only temporary), then teleport object should do the trick. Teleport the chest five feet to the left, leaving everything inside it on the ground.
>>46168208
Im planning to add a plague in a Council of thieves AP that I'm running. My PCs saw patient zero and a person killed by it back in episode 1. I'm about to start episode 2 one year after Bastards of Erebus.
Any ideas? Feel free to spoil the adventure.
The plague symptoms mutated in the ongoing year.
>>46172432
This is basically the idea I was working with at the moment, or variations on it. We have an incorporeal creature we could ask to look inside the chest, but it has no way to teleport anything out.
>>46172451
Teleporting the chest is an idea I hadn't thought of. I'm not sure if it will fly with my DM or if he'll say containers bring their contents with them when teleported (otherwise, wouldn't the contents of your bags be left behind when you teleport?), but it's worth asking about.
>>46172449
Blink works for this purpose as well.
>>46172574
The Teleport spell and others like it specifically call out including your belongings, which is why they work the way they do.
>>46172279
Animate the chest and ask it to open the lock for you?
Are there any workarounds other than Wrecking Mysticism and Nine-Tailed Scion to get Magical Tail x9 easily?
I want to make a kitsune mystic who uses katana and wakizashi, as well as any other weeabooisms I can fit into there.
>>46172574
Have the incorporeal creature use a ghost touch glove to hold something inside the chest, then teleport the incorporeal creature.
>>46172279
What was the lock DC anyway? I assume that it's higher than 40? Because if it's under 40 then you could just summon Babau with Evolved Summoned Monster (skilled Disable Device).
>>46172574
>containers bring their contents with them when teleported
This is basically the only sane way to do it, since otherwise you get into quibbles like "if you teleport a Lego building does only one block get teleported".
>>46170620
>>46170577
>>46170456
>>46170231
Isn't there a /pfg/ group playing in the Linnorm Kingdoms or something?
>>46172812
Yyyep. DrowAnon's campaign. They update us on their adventures now and again. Sounds like they're all having fun.
>>46172798
We don't know the exact number but it's at least 48, since that's what our rogue taking 20 would have gotten.
>>46172808
Yeah, basically my point on that. It's worth asking about, though.
>>46172279
>>46172449
>>46172597
>Cast Blink on self
>Cast Beast Shape III or Baleful Polymorph and turn self into a diminutive animal
>Walk into chest, shove things into a bag of holding
>Walk out with stuff
Anyone provide details on the new ultimate intrigue Bard archetypes, please?
If I have the ability to take a standard AND a move action during the surprise round, I should be able to take a full round action, right? Since a full-round action is just the combination of a move and standard?
Which is better as a "default" Barbarian: unchained or original version?
>>46168885
it has the soul of my previous character acting as an intelligent weapon for my Blackblade Magus
Does anyone have the details on the spiritualist shadow archetype in ultimate intrigue?
>>46173155
By RAW? No. Full-round action isn't standard + move.
It ijust an action that take the whole round to perform, thus preventing you from doing move or standard.
Anyone have a pdf of kineticists of porphyra from purple duck games? It seems like the only hope for decent kineticist support/fixes/other but i'm not sure i'm willing to commit to buying it unless it actually has decent material.
>>46168885
Intelligent Spherecasting Chakram that can split into more of itself infinitely.
>>46172279
Time Hop via a power stone, a favorite for bypassing barred doors.
Other simple option is getting Gloves of Shaping, they work on anything less than hardness 8, so wood in this case; grab the items out of the chest then fix what you moved.
>>46168351
>Posting GynoidHerring art like it aint no thing.
>>46173271
>not posting GynoidHerring art like it aint no thing
Are you on 4chan or not?
>>46173171
Unchained never seemed like it did anything momentous (besides apparently nerfing Superstition from "Roll against friendly spells while raging" back to "roll against friendly spells period")-and adding boosts directly to attack/damage instead of STR doesn't feel like it saves much time or effort. Overall, I'd go with Chained.
>>46173326
Oh, what's your opinion with the monk, too?
Post the houserule /pfg/. You know the one.
>>46173587
http://pastebin.com/nRFCvW7U
>>46173587
Max + 10hp at 1st, average rounded down from then on. Get your halves out of the way right away, survive the shanktown!
