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What happens when you cast stone to flesh, shrink them down and then cast flesh to stone? Edition
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>>46159461
>Cast Stone to Flesh
>Cast Shape Stone to alter appearance of stomach muscles
>Cast Flesh to Stone
Chiseled abs.
>>46159539
would you say they're
rock hard
>>46159539
Wait. Strike that, reverse it. Otherwise it would just be silly.
>>46159461
You can Teleport a much larger group of people with these spells, since they count as objects when petrified.
How exactly does land speed scale as a creature grows via HD advancement? If I've got a Tiny creature with a 20 ft speed, will that go to 30 at Small or Medium? Will it speed up or slow down when it goes beyond Medium to Large and Huge?
Is there a trait which can give perform:dance as a class skill?
>>46159461
It's a free, undispellable ultra Reduce Person.
>>46159706
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/traits/tools/traits-filter
>>46159706
Several: Varisian regional and racials, and religion traits for both Desna and Shelyn.
>>46159706
Intense Artist, Barroom Talespinner, Savant, Talented, Dilettante Artist (elf only), Tattooed Wanderer, Missionary.
>>46159706
Why would you possibly want to take Perform (Dance) as a class skill?
It's a worthless trait unless you're one of the few classes that uses it. Skills and traits are not for characters, they're for builds. Stop trying to mix the two.
>>46159884
Mithral Current via the Martial Training line of feats.
How would you, as an evil wizard, go about turning someone into an intelligent magic item?
>>46159884
Oh, fuck off.
>>46159884
dervish dance
Literally the only reason to take that skill
>>46159914
Depends, is Spheres allowed?
>>46159931
Sadly, no.
>>46159914
Step 1: Flesh to Stone
Step 2: Fabricate the stone into stone plate
Step 3: Enchant the armor and make it intelligent
>>46159893
>Benefit: Select a martial discipline. The associated skill for this discipline is now a class skill.
>>46159914
Kill them, summon a cacodaemon, get their soul in a gem, and use the soul gem as a substitute for part of the item's crafting costs. Text from Book of the Damned part three for reference:
>Souls are especially useful in the creation of intelligent items. In these cases, usually only one soul crystallizes as the intelligence embedded into the item, though other souls may be cannibalized in the item’s creation. Item alignment, item ability scores, and languages spoken by the item mirror those of the soul used to provide the item’s intelligence. Scholars have long debated whether the intelligence in such an item is the soul used, or if the soul is destroyed and the intelligence is only patterned on it—the implication being that recovered intelligent objects (especially of daemonic origin) might be destroyed in order to liberate the souls used in their construction. As instances of both have been reported over the centuries, the question remains open, though few adventurers are willing to destroy their prized weapons based on conjecture.
>>46159925
>Literally the only reason to take that skill
What if I want to be a Kitsune that's light on her feet and knows how to swish them tails?
Dancing is great, and very useful for social situations.
>recovered intelligent objects (especially of daemonic origin) might be destroyed in order to liberate the souls used in their construction
No fuck that fuck you if I'm a sweet immortal sword you fucking LEAVE me a sweet immortal sword, I don't want to get melted, thawed, and resolved into a dew
>>46159975
Luckily, Create Soul Gem is a spell you can learn without the need of a cacodaemon.
But yeah, this works.
>>46159999
You probably have high charisma, put 1 skill point and forget about it.
>>46160029
That's assuming they made you into a sweet immortal sword, instead of a sweet immortal speedo of +2 swoleness.
>>46160061
Dude if I'm gonna spend eternity cradling some fucker's dick and making comments on it, you best BELIEVE I am going to own the shit out of that. Best speedo he'll ever OWN. Best hope he knows presto, because he'll have a LOT of stains he won't want company to see.
>>46160038
Sure, but you're waiting two extra levels and have to provide the 25 gp gem yourself. Create Soul Gem also needs you to start casting the very round the creature dies, whereas a cacodaemon is good for a full minute after death.
>>46159461
How fun would it be to play a wizard who uses his unused spell slots to Stone to Flesh, Shape Stone, Flesh to Stone your party members while they slept. Every morning they'd wake up and they'd have one extra dick.
>everyone thinks you need Flesh to Stone and Stone Shape to do plastic surgery
>mfw no one knows about Globes of Shaping
10k gloves, lets you sculpt anything with hardness 8 or lower like wet clay. Including flesh and bone.
>>46160135
>The wearer can shape objects with hardness 8 or lower (stone, wood, leather, and so on) as if it were soft clay.
>Objects
Nice try.
>>46160173
Well obviously you kill them first.
>>46160135
But how are you supposed to "enhance" parts of your body with them?I'm not keen on getting my willy lengthened if it means it's as thick as string cheese.
>>46160029
It's okay if you're swordkin Anon, we aren't judging.
>>46160121
>no sense of right and wrong
>>46160135
>Globes of Shaping
And suddenly I have the mental image of the world's scariest paizuri...
>>46160173
>The subject, along with all its carried gear, turns into a mindless, inert statue.
>mindless
>inert
>statue
Pretty objecty there, I'm thinking.
>>46160053
Don't forget Rubatos.
A Rubato with Perform (Dance) and Agile Dancer can replace three or four other skills with it.
Repost from last thread since no answer:
There is a number of Warder maneuvers that mention making an opposed attack roll using their "base attack bonus plus shield bonus to AC". Does it mean that you're not using any other bonuses you'd normally get on your attack rolls?
>>46160221
>Don't forget Rubatos.
I'm still mad they lose all spells while warpath follower and polymath lose only one per level.
>>46160210
But >>46160135 was claiming the Gloves of Shaping could do the job without Flesh to Stone.
>>46160193
Get them to carry a whole lot of stuff that they don't care about.
It's all turned to stone with them, so you use it as extra mass
>>46160256
Today it is me with the "no reading comprehension" award!
Let's be perfectly honest with each other, senpai.
How much effort do you put into making your character's build reflect their personality, or their personality reflect their roleplay?Because I've ran into too many people who make characters with backstories and everything, but in-game they're limp noodles.
>>46160121
At last, I can make good use of my +20 craft:sculpture.
>>46160274
B-but then if it turns back, will my dick be half dagger?
What should I multiclass in to after 5 levels of bolt ace?
Party currently has a monk, a bloodrager and a sorcerer.
>>46160173
>not objectifying everyone
And admittedly by RAW, sure, doesn't work, but come on, that's not very interesting.
>>46160193
Get extra biomass.
Or yeah, just do it with Flesh to Stone, still cuts out the need for Stone Shape.
>>46160306
Why are you using a dagger when you've got clubs and maces?
>>46159461
Shrink them down using what, though? If you use use a spell that targets objects, I'd rule that once you flesh to stone them back alive, they're no longer an object and any such spell ends due to the target no longer being a legal target. If you're using something that could also target a creature, then there's no point in stone to fleshing them first anyway.
W-wait! With Stone to Flesh, could I totally go Pygmalion and sculpt myself a waifu? Craft the perfect woman of stone, animate her as a stone golem, then Stone to Flesh? Would that work?
>>46159884
You do realize that not everybody builds their characters to be perfectly efficient little murder-machines, right?
>>46160394
You don't understand. If you aren't min-maxxed and optimized, it isn't FUN.
>>46160385
No, Stone to Flesh allows SR and a stone golem isn't transformed into flesh.
"A stone to flesh spell does not actually change the golem's structure but negates its damage reduction and immunity to magic for 1 full round."
Just make the statue an animated object and then Stone to Flesh it, it's much cheaper and less resistable. That way it would work just fine, although you couldn't ensure the personality
>>46160385
Totally, go for it anon!I'm certainly not lying, nor will I be setting up cameras to capture the moment when your dreams are crushed as your statue collapses into useless dead meat.
Hey, could someone explain to me why Dark Messenger for Ravenlords is an animal companion, and not a familiar?
Also, when it says Bird companion, does it mean any particular one, or just pick any that's a bird?would it be reasonable to choose a feathered velociraptor?
>>46160431
>although you couldn't ensure the personality
Hmm. There HAS to be a way.
I asked last night and didn't really get any responses
Livia the Bard-a-din hit level 7 last night
Now i just have to figure out the feats
i already have these via house rules, already taken feats, or class features
combat expertise
power attack
fey foundling
arcane strike
combat casting
furious focus
greater mercy
disruptive
what do for my level 7 feat. I'm currently even getting enough healing out that i'm not sure I even need extra LoH which is what I was gonna do before. Between Hero's defiance and my current pile of LoH I can literally facetank entire dungeons
>>46160241
It says to use only your base attack bonus plus your shield bonus, so you use only your base attack bonus plus your shield bonus. It's the word "only" that makes it clear.
>>46160445
Yeah, modify memory, charm person, suggestion, and hypnotism, for example. Or lots of confabulation powder.
>>46160445
Also, it'd need to be a lifespark construct or some such, otherwise it would still have Int - and be a vegetable. I mean, it'd be alive, but still a coma patient.
>>46160511
There's Awaken Construct for that. Okay, so here's how this would have to go down.
Step 1: Sculpt yourself the perfect woman out of stone.
Step 2: Animate Object
Step 3: Awaken Construct
Step 4: Stone to Flesh
Step 5: Weeks of mental programming using Modify Memory, Hypnotism, Suggestion, Charm Person, ect
Step 6: ??????
Step 7: Waifu!
>>46160306
Hey, it's stone-to-flesh, not stone-to-all your shit back.
>>46160431
>>46160445
But if Stone to Flesh negates the golem's immunity to magic for one round, that means you can cast Stone to Flesh again during that second round and have it affect the golem like the spell would normally affect stone. Since the spell's duration is instantaneous, that means it's permanent, and the golem's immunity to magic returning the next round won't undo the whole process.
>>46160575
That's...that's genius.
>>46160448
Except it doesn't say "only".
>>46160543
Awaken construct's high level with a very expensive material component, though.
I wonder if it'd just be cheaper to kidnap some girl, petrify and shape her, then put her through the conditioning.
>>46160575
>>46160585
You'd need a second guy for that, though, but yeah, it'd work.
>>46160603
>I wonder if it'd just be cheaper to kidnap some girl, petrify and shape her, then put her through the conditioning.
But anon, that would be the act of an Evil wizard. Building a waifu from scratch is, like, neutral at worst.
>>46160589
Oh, I thought it did, my mistake. Huh... sounds like anything that's a flat bonus to attacks would probably apply, then, just not things like your Strength bonus or the like.
>>46160625
I'm honestly thinking of using this whole process as the character goal of a half-mad elf wizard attempting to recreate his human wife who died centuries ago
>>46160278
Roleplaying is why I'm here.
Mechanics are a tool I use to make my character do the thing I want them to do within the story.
>>46160575
>>46160603
ITT: wizards brainstorm how to make their waifu.
Okay, the transmutation specialist figured out how to get the body, now we need our enchantment specialist to make the mind. You could use Impart Mind, but that's only temporary.
>>46160603
>I wonder if it'd just be cheaper to kidnap some girl, petrify and shape her, then put her through the conditioning.
The problem, of course, which people aren't talking about, is this pesky line from Stone to Flesh for petrified creatures:
>The creature must make a DC 15 Fortitude save to survive the process
You only get a 1 in 4 chance your girl's gonna live through the process. You'd need to kidnap a lot of girls before you could be certain one of them will make it.
>>46160658
He could just use clone or something, though, couldn't he?
Or, even better, he petrified his wife himself and he recreates her periodically to make sure the original never dies, while he still has his wife around.
>>46160678
>wizards brainstorm how to make their waifu.
I didn't make it to 30 as a virgin for nothing.
This is the power of a man's wizard spirit.
>>46160385
This sounds like the seed of an awesome PC backstory idea.
>>46160680
>You'd need to kidnap a lot of girls before you could be certain one of them will make it.
...So?
>>46160699
Better yet, play the escaped waifu who the wizard failed to properly program.
He wants you back.
Reminder that when Xanderghul, the chief pimplord of Thassilon and only wizard known to match Baba Yaga, wanted a perfect waifu, he didn't fuck around with your pansy transmutations trying to craft a statue woman like those pussy greedlords in Shalast.
>The runelord conjured a princess of the ghaele azatas to his court, and for years subtly courted her while wrapping her in a phantasmagoria of masterful illusions and deceptions, twisting her perception of reality until she accepted the runelord as her master. Baraket rose as one of the most unlikely of the runelords’ champions, a deceived celestial being whose consciousness lingered on even after she was slain over a century later by the agents of the empyreal lord Chadali—emissaries attempting to liberate her.
If you can't get an azata princess to ride your dick purely through your manly appearance, you've got no right to call yourself a wizard when Xanderghul might be around to hear. And Xanderghul could be anywhere.
>>46160721
Right, I forgot.
No sense of right or wrong.
>>46160737
What a fucking boss.
>>46160737
Don't forget that one Runelord of Greed made himself a waifu out of solid gold and made her his champion.
>>46160723
That is exactly what I meant, familia.
>>46160737
>>46160783
Its good to know that Paizo agrees that the real purpose of magic is waifu manufacturing.
>>46160723
... Doesn't playing as some evil wizard's perfect hot waifu gone AWOL that he wants to capture and brainwash seem a bit too magical realm? Or is it just a typical lady's power fantasy?
>>46160737
>Ghaele Azata
Xanderghul confirmed best taste.
>>46160737
Man, now I wish we had a cosmic Sitcom about the wacky times of Xanderghul, Baba Yaga, and Jatembe, just cruising through the universe together.
>>46160834
I want a suburban comedy about Nex and Geb.
>>46160723
>>46160699
>>46160385
Shabti race refluffed, desu senpai
>>46160822
>Magical Realm
Man, we're already playing Pathfinder. We've already gone down that rabbit hole.
>>46160783
Nigga I just referenced it because of how shit it was.
>For centuries the transmuters of Shalast idealized the arcane pursuit of transfiguring lead into gold. Upon unlocking that secret, they sought even more challenging and dangerous transformations, among which was the quest to turn gold into living f lesh. Presenting their master with the petrifying blade they’d created, the arcanists of Runeforge included a second wondrous gift, a woman of living gold they called Chellan. She excelled at all things—art, dance, song, magic, swordsmanship—and it seemed fitting that she would bear the blade that birth from Runeforge made her sibling. But Chellan’s time proved short, and after 5 brief years of reducing the enemies of Shalast to rubble, her unperfected animating forces dissipated—all except for those vestiges of calculating fanaticism that imprinted upon the blade that came to bear her name.
Wow, your perfect statue waifu lasted a whole five fucking years before she fell the fuck apart, good job Runelord Goldmember.
>>46160822
Magical Realm is a state of mind, not a state of character. You can have a large-breasted sorceress without making it magical realm, while a simple barefoot ranger can totally be magical realm.
>>46160851
>Nex and Geb.
After 10 episodes, they screw.
That's all you need to know
>>46160864
I want to convert a Kyton to Ardarvia
Looking for 3.5 help lots of crossover in the community
Making a Master of Many Forms Ranger.
Level 6
Stat Arrays:
First array: 14, 14, 12, 12, 14, 11, 14
2nd Array: 15, 12, 13, 13, 11, 11
Final Array: 15, 12. 12. 13. 14. 13
Not sure how to distribute my stats. I know Physical aren't that important since wild shape
Gm uses the rule that HP is always maxed because enemies always have max hp.
Gonna grab the Alertness feat 1st level since it's a pre-req. I was thinking of going grappler build since I'll be able to get large and huge sized bonuses. Or would going down power attack be a better option?
A level 9 mystic can craft scrolls or power stones of literally any spell or psionic power of up to 5th level.
I don't want to burn all my gold on one-use casts, but are there any spells/powers I should really keep a scroll of as backup?
Scanning the wizard/cleric/psion lists the only things that really come to mind are teleport and raise dead/psionic revivify.
>>46160937
This is with 3.5 wildshaping rules? I'd probably roll 14 wis, con, dex, and int, 12 str and cha. If you go as a changeling you can take a level in Warshaper pretty early too, I believe.
>>46160864
Isn't there a Kyton bloodline for Bloodragers? And if so are there any neat builds you could make of it?
What character ideas you wish you could use /tg/
>Ugly tiefling summoner with an angelic eidolon that looks like its mother
>Shield Champion brawler that also uses a pistol
>Kineticist Barb that seeks to master fire and their own rage
>>46160443
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/druid/animal-companions#TOC-Bird
>>46160889
>bare
>ranger
Just make sure to get some natural armor to protect against brambles.
>>46161017
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/hybrid-classes/bloodrager/bloodrager-bloodlines/paizo---bloodrager-bloodlines/kyton-bloodline
Check it out. Bonus feats and spells look like shit, except maybe IDT if you do a dirty trick build. It gives you a "free" armor bonus with no downsides, so it's probably best for a light/no armor build. 1st-level ability encourages critfishing.
It looks mediocre overall, if I ever used it it'd be more for fluff than for mechanics.
>>46161057
Wait, so only her favored enemy gets between her legs? Is that before or after they became the favored enemy?
>>46161067
Fluff over mechanics tends to be how I prefer as my DM isn't super punishing on my group for not being optimized.
>>46161035
Ah, I see. Thank you Gareth, that answers one question.
Now, on to the other question, why a Companion and not a Familiar?
>>46161106
Familiars are wimps
>>46161085
>Favored Enemy: Orcs
>>46161085
Favored Enemy: Vagina
Bards wish they could take that.
>>46161057
Sauce for an uncensored version? Or the artist?
Playing a vivisectionist, but my DM isn't letting me buy a CL20 potion of greater magic fang (in all fairness I don't blame him for that).
Is there any way to make a potion at a significantly higher caster level (i.e. 15 higher) than yourself? Being able to craft a CL20 great magic fang and keep reusing it with alchemical allocation would be dope.
>>46161131
Hur hur bards are sex fiends, especially the male ones.
>>46161151
http://i.imgur.com/zCA6H29.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mcHz5FY.jpg
No idea who the artist is.
>>46161057
So her breasts are used to get animals interested in her?
Also the dual-wield comment is amusing becausetheyre small enough to be light weapons.
>>46160970
GM has a rule you need to take a base class for 3 levels.
Also wouldn't I need to get level 5 for wild shape as acf wild shaping ranger?
>>46161180
but bard-a-dins are pure.
>>46161195
Either that Elf is extremely aroused or the carpet doesn't match the drapes, why is her hair platinum-blonde but her pubes red?
>>46161220
Bards can be pure, too!
>>46161218
A few, I can't recall when they get it, but having the warshaper benefits early on can still be nice. Well even if you don't Ranger 5 / MoMF 10 / Warshaper or ranger isn't bad.
>>46161220
That's all on the paladin, really.
Alright /pfg/ using any Pathfinder materials but preferably sticking with Paizo published stuff how would you build a character based around lifedrain or health stealing abilities?
>>46161271
Oradin having refluffed the use of lay on hands to make it seem like a vampiric weapon? Vitalist is pretty much the way to go, though.
>>46161261
>tfw no Shelynite older Paladin to make the MILFs swoon or young bucks loudly sweat
>>46161106
Why a familiar and not a companion?
I genuinely don't get the thrust of your question here, anon. Admittedly I'm low on caffeine and nursing a migraine, so...I dunno, walk me through what it is you'd want out of it being a familiar?
I need help, /pfg/: what possible use can I put Smite Good to in a non-evil campaign? Tyrant has opened up a world of new antipaladin possibilities, but I can't help but feel gypped that a primary class features will just sit there unused forever.
All I've managed to dig up is the Lion Cloak, which will let me trade smite uses for 10 minutes of beast shape II, but I'm not really gonna get much use out of wasting my action economy shifting back and forth in a fight. Any other ideas? Alternatives?
>>46161333
Familiar archetypes to allow greater diversity in character building. Also familiars seem to have better system support overall as apposed to Companions. Plus it seems a bit more thematically appropriate since the critter is essentially sharing your intelligence with you.
Also, skill bonuses are rather nice
>>46161327
All the shelynites I've seen have usually been on the younger, innocent side, although I suppose ara ara~ can also be beautiful to Shelyn.
>>46160321
Inquisitor works well with Bolt Ace, if you want to be a non T1 Divine Caster, and they don't get anything particularly impressive after 15th level that you would miss out on anyway
>>46161106
Because it is a well-trained animal and not a spellcaster's butt buddy, we good?
>>46161386
It's a houserule, but ask your DM if you can trade it for Smite Chaos, or maybe some variant smites from 3.5? I remember there being a few of those.
>>46161432
My bardadin is a definite, for obvious reasons
>>46161428
I made it a companion because they scale better natively for martial combat. I made it /that/ companion because birds suck so I could get away with giving them free kung fu without breaking shit. I neither knew nor cared about familiar archetypes and honestly I still don't.
>>46161260
So any recommendation on feats is grappler a good idea?
I think i'll just go Human and get Warshaper after Master of Many Forms 7(Because regenerating cave troll or hydra)
>>46161432
Which is odd because Shelyn is very big on couples having children and raising them in loving, happy families full of life and laughter.
She loves the children.
>>46161432
Fug I mean shelynite stupid phone
>>46160446
Word of Healing is nice if the party isn't always right next to each other.
>>46161486
Is that why Erastilian and Shelynite adventurers get along so well?
Gotta be awkward for people terrified of settling down to adventure with them.
>>46161485
You'd have to find someone else for grappling suggestions, I never wrapped my head around those... I think there's actually a wildshape guide floating around, though, that can give you some ideas.
>>46161444
>what are Mauler Familiars
>>46161477
That's fair enough I guess
>>46161168
15 higher? No go fuck yourself.
What you can do is find a master alchemist and convince him to make it for you. A cl 20 pot would be 3x20x50=3k per pot. Is that the craft price or store buying price? Either way you'd need to convince him or her you are worth spending two or three days to make one for you. Meanwhile he could just be making philosopher stones for free money. Also you could just get someone to cast permanency on you and keep the benefit constantly, and it would rarely be dispelled thanks to the 20 caster level not going to be overcome by level 5 assholes anytime soon.
>>46161510
>Is that why Erastilian and Shelynite adventurers get along so well?
Yes, and it's why I think more people who want to play an eligible bachelor(ette) interested in settling down should choose Shelyn rather than Erastil.
Erastil wants babies because it perpetuates the community, to him it is a duty. Shelyn wants babies because it's the ultimate expression of love, to her the pitter-patter of small feet on hardwood floors is as sweet as any symphony.
>>46161220
But what about kitsune bardadins with Perform (dance)?
>>46161742
That's reaching "Ran" levels of fluff, anon.
>>46161715
>Erastil and Shelyn sitting at a table, watching over their followers, and discussing their OTPs
>>46161792
Yes, and?
Have you ever made a character with ranks in Profession (courtesan)?
>>46161885
Yes. He grew up a slave in a decadent yet amoral land, and knew no other life.
>>46161885
Yes, and she was a shameless flirt with ample cleavage and a vicious, cunning mind.
I figured if I was going the courtesan route I might as well own it.
GUYS
I NEED WAIFUS
ALL OF THEM
POST THEM.
So a while back there was the shadow stuff update, and the metamagic to turn light spells from turning up one level to down one level. An assassin could just get a permanent dancing lantern spell to make normal light dim light and use hide in plain sight as long as he isn't out in bright light, and it would be pretty cheap and easy to do right?
>>46161885
Yeah. Leader of an order of paladins. She was a sex slave before.
>>46161885
Yes, although the point was more to be able to aid another on the actual courtesans she employed, enabling them to make her more money.
Where could one find a decent warforged template for Pathfinder?
>>46161982
3.5e Eberron, where warforged are from, I presume.
>>46161945
>>46161805
Thanks anon, now I'm picturing a Paladin (Chosen One) of Erastil and a young Cleric of Shelyn running off on an adorable adventure filled with giggles and hand-holding.
>Yfw a paladin order that worshipped both Lymnieris and Irez would be a Paladin order with Blackjack and Hookers
>>46161675
I doubt there'll be any high level people around to make that potion, hence why I was wondering if there is any way to make my own potion at a higher level. If there isn't then fair enough - perhaps I can wrangle a CL12 barkskin.
>>46161945
Paizo waifus? PC waifus? You need to be more specific.
>>46162022
Yes.
>>46162001
Gareth, I thought you said you didn't have a waifu.
>>46161805
>>46162002
You guys. I like you guys.
>>46162004
And then they use the proceeds to organize the adoption of young people into loving homes, as well as buying children out of the slave trade.
>>46159461
>tfw playing a low-wisdom character for the first time
I don't know why it's so much fun, but it is
>>46161945
TRINIA'S COMING BACK TO RECLAIM HER THRONE AS BEST GIRL
>>46162123
>Trinia Sabor
Excellent taste for an excellent character.
>>46161994
https://sites.google.com/site/eberronpathfinder/conversion-info/races/warforged
>>46162123
>those freaky legs
Skinwalker get out and stay out.
>>46162076
>Lawful Good out-Chaotic Gooding Chaotic Good
Put that in your pipe and smoke it, plucky rebels.
>>46161945
HOLD ON, I'M NOT DONE CASTING STONE TO FLESH YET!
>>46161885
Aye. A devotee of Arshea, that one.Also my Brawler's mom. The first thing she asked him about when she got his letter from Sandpoint was how his love life was going. He really doesn't like it when she does that.
>>46162376
Why doesn't she send you some bachelor's snuff and a few gold for the Pixie's Kitten?
>>46162373
AND THEN WE GOTTA GASLIGHT HER UNTIL HER PERSONALITY IS JUST RIGHT!!!
>>46162376
>The first thing she asked him about when she got his letter from Sandpoint was how his love life was going. He really doesn't like it when she does that.
Oh hai Mark
>>46162423
Because she knows he'd probably hold onto any regular allowance, save it up, then spend it onan Amulet of Mighty Fists.
>>46162336
>>46162076
>Lymneiris
>"We fuck so you don't have to!"
>>46162123
>TFW my CoCT party has been harboring Trinia with them in Zellara's house.
>I tired to give them a hook to get her safely off-screen so they don't have to take care of her and keep her from the guards anymore.
>They don't bite, she's still with them.
They just can't let that girl go. I think one of my players wants to turn her into his Leadership cohort.
>>46162446
What if she hired a courtesan to trick your brawler into thinking she was just a lovely girl interested in seeing his muscles in action?
>>46162464
>My party doesn't want to get rid of the attractive spunky blonde
Should've seen it coming a mile away, it's like making a tough Russian woman interested in making a PC her husbando and expecting the party *not* to love it.
>>46162476
>he accidentally seduces her to the pursuit of gains
>a week later the job is completely forgotten and she's busy training to lit
What are some good alternate settings to set Curse of the Crimson Throne in?
How would you modify the AP to turn it halfway into Hell's Rebels or Hell's Vengeance?Or council of thieves
>>46161885
No because I like imagining myself in my character's position and find it easier to imagine myself throwing fireballs instead of being attractive enough to be a courtesan
>>46162531
>Hell's Anything
>council of thieves
KEK no, you have literal objective shit-tier taste, leave
>>46162038
Anon, it's a Voidheart casually murdering two guards with painful soul-wracking death. That's not a waifu, that's sarcasm.
Have you ever made a character that was a drug-user, /pfg/? Not just backstory shit, but actually doing up some pesh before a fight and so on.
It somehow slipped my mind for ages that drug addiction is a disease per rules, and thus paladins and some other classes are immune to it. Nothing says 'holy warrior' like habitual use of +1d4 Cha harlot sweets, eh?
>>46162520
I don't mind that they like her, I want them to see her protection as important, because it means they're buying the plot.
What I don't want is her to be on-screen for the rest of the game. If she has a 5000gp bounty on her head, them keeping her hidden just means everything they do from now on has to consider whether or not she's still safe. It distracts from the plot.
>>46162531
CotCT works in Kansai (capital of Minkai), Augustana, Cassomir or Oppara, or even Kalsgard.
>>46162531
As for your last question, you don't. As for your 2nd, you've impressed hell knights with your escapades, they pick you up, some number of ceremonies and sidequests later you're in Korvosa serving the guard while hell's breaking lose.
>>46162531
Why would you do that?
Crimson Throne is 100x better than either Hell's campaign, and Korvosa is a perfect setting as-is. And Council of Thieves is shit.
What's a good way to play pic related.
DSP and DDS allowed. Something with Psionics is preferred, but not required.
>>46162566
So? Guards are a dime a dozen, and the method of death is irrelevant if they look cool doing it.
My GM tried to phantasmal killer my Pally last session
turns out that doesn't work.
>>46162608
I'd play him as a Bard.
>>46162616
Yeah is a fear effect.
>>46162567
My ex made a paladin addicted to harlot sweets.
>>46162559
>>46162593
>Why would you
Half the reason to run APs is to troll the expectations of players who have already read/played it
>>46162638
We learned that.
It was funny to see him go
'oh'.
>>46162628
I'm not seeing it. Could you explain your reasoning?
>>46162567
>harlot sweets
But ability damage is cumulative, so that paladin would be running at a constant Int deficit.
So, /pfg/, what kind of things do you think "make" a companion creature? How much should a class be invested in one, and how strong is too strong? Is giving a class the option to grant a companion bonus feats, proficiencies with weapons and armor, etc. kosher? How would you weigh special, unique abilities against basic things like extra feats or better ability scores?Coming up with interesting construct companion alternatives is much more difficult than I expected.
>>46162664
That's always fun.
Like a vampire trying to Dominate Person your Tiefling.
>>46162677
Paladins don't need intelligence.
Especially Chosen Ones; let the cat do the talking.
>>46162655
I did this to my players with RotRL and Shattered Star. The reaction on the oracle's face when she fought outsiders and aberrations in Magnimar in lieu of stone giants in sandpoint was pretty priceless
>>46162713
Chosen One Paladin is best Paladin
>>46162438
I my defense, I made her, so I can do what I want with her.
>>46162791
>child abuser self-justification: the post
If I have a bite attack and a sword, what's my full attack look like?
>>46161945
>Hey there, cute-stuff.
>>46162849
Like you're probably going to end up cutting your tongue off.
>>46162849
Whatever your iteratives are, and then your bite at -5.
>>46162885
Thanks
Bard just popped 7th level
Gotta pick 2 spells. Already taking Haste for the first, stuck on the second
Feeling like I should take Slow? Or maybe Confusion?
Any other suggestions?
>>46163054
Learn Heal My Dick or I won't protect you next encounter.
>>46162849
>>46162885
Also, the bite only gets 1/2 strength to damage.
>>46162438
Is there actually a spell out there that would allow you to basically reprogram the target's personality from scratch?
>>46163173
If I'm two-handing the sword does it get 1.5?
>>46163054
Good Hope is a pretty nice group buff.
Dispel Magic is pretty much always useful.
Tiny Hut is a lot more useful than you'd think at first.
>>46163190
Yep.
>>46163190
Yes, the bite drops to 1/2 strength because it becomes a secondary natural attack if you're combining natural weapons with manufactured weapons.
>>46163211
Nice. I'm getting that Cloak of Biting Assholes then, thanks.
>>46163054
Charm Monster
>>46163228
Too bad you won't be able to keep the swift action free to activate your Shirt of Actually Getting to Full Attack.
>>46163265
Fights last for more than one turn bro
Last night in the middle of a session, one of my players says off-handedly to the other, "Yeah, I'm saving up gold so I can buy [this magic item] and [that magic item]."
I think it was at that point I realized how much I truly despise this game.
one of my players wants to be a vampire, he's styling it based on the traditional horror variety and not the lame kind so I wanna let him do this. Two questions tho
- How does stats work? unlike older versions of d&d you don't take level penalties or anything right? he just has to be minimum level 5?
- How does the sunlight thing work? Would a parasol or completely covering clothing prevent it, or no?
>>46163295
So run a game with automatic bonus progression and less or no magic items.
>>46163296
Both LA and CR-based adjustment are extremely fucked and unsalvagable.
Homebrew a proper base race or race template that's give and take in the same fair way Dragonborn is.
>>46163231
this is best suggestion
i will take.
>>46163296
Look in the DSP book Lords of the Night. There's a less complicated vampire template in there that's just CR +1 (and designed so you can treat lit ike a +1 level adjustment), with feats and a prestige class for vamp-specific power.
Just sticking the Bestiary vampire template on is a bad idea because it adds tons of powers but crippling weaknesses at the same time, so either they're too good or they suck without much in between.
>>46163296
>How does stats work? unlike older versions of d&d you don't take level penalties or anything right? he just has to be minimum level 5?
Short answer is that they don't. There isn't any real system in place for playing monstrous characters.
>>46163362
I'm already running Rise of the Runelords with low wealth / low magic items, but they're so min-maxed that everything's a walk in the park. I'm probably going to disband the campaign soon, I can't take this shitty fucking system any more.
>>46163296
Use the Dhampir race, add the Unusual Origin (dhampir) feat for a bite attack, then use PoW classes to make a super bite attack every turn.
Harbinger even has a vampire themed archetype that drains blood out of people, and can get an undead themed discipline (Unquiet Grave) that gets temp hp from doing attacks.
>>46163420
>buy an entire book for one players idea
???
>>46163548
You allowed an all arcanist//psychic gestalt party, didn't you?
>>46163562
It is in the trove linked in the OP. No need to buy it, unless you want to support DSP.
>>46163562
It should be in the Trove. Also, the playtest is almost identical to the finished product, save for a few small things.
And if you're adverse to piracy, its actually on sale on the SRD shop
>>46163296
>How does the sunlight thing work? Would a parasol or completely covering clothing prevent it, or no?
I would rule that just being in sunlight is enough and whatever UV rays/magic nonsense can't be blocked by just not having direct contact with the skin
otherwise every single vampire would just take a level dip in aegis and have the skin cover their entire body at all times
There's a few tier 3 archetyped versions of non-tier 3 classes in the tier list in the OP's links. Are there any others around like that that haven't gotten into that list?
>>46163654
>not having latex-dipped vampires as a logical consequence of how things work
How disappoint.
>>46163717
Probably
>>46163738
>that lighting detail
>in marker
This is surprisingly hot and well done for what looks like deviantart fodder
So apparently Warlords can now Triple-Stack their Charisma to CMB Checks. Quad Stack if they use a maneuver that gives them a Competence Bonus to the check.
>>46163824
Sounds about right for overPoWered
Is there a way to get Dex to CMB?
>>46163799
You have incredibly low standards.
>>46163918
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/agile-maneuvers-combat
>>46163824
>Luck bonus from Gambit
>Morale bonus from Presence
Which third am I missing? (Also, related, any maneuver that gives charisma as competence to CMB? In most cases, it's a fixed value, and it doesn't stack with Battle Prowess anyways).
>>46163918
Agile maneuvers feat. Remember that Dex to CMB already applies to Sunder and Trip if you alraedy got Weapon Finesse.
>>46163918
Several
Weapon Finesse, Agile Maneuvers, Fury's Fall come to mind
Trying to make an 8th level Magical Girl that makes it Homunculus appear to be its twin. Mauler and Hat of Disguise would work, but then the Mauler couldn't talk. Decoy can't do it until level 11, and even if I go Figment and Evolved Familiar to give it evolution points, I can only evolve it into a Large size. I want to think there is some way of using "Additional Traits" as a bonus feat, but I'm just not sure.
Its a -10 to disguise to disguise yourself as a different size category. Toss in Hat of Disguise and use an evolution point for +8 via skilled should be enough...but it seems rough.
>>46163940
Doesn't flanking apply to Maneuvers?
>>46163934
It's the hips. It's mostly trash, but the hips always draw me in regardless of how crap it is.
>>46164062
Oh fuck, missed that one, my bad. However you can't reliably flank all enemies, though, unless you get Golden Commander Stance (And there's a damn big amount of level 3 stances competing for that slot).
>>46163940
Thinking of the Mithral Current "Silver Wave". Doesn't stack with BP, no, but that's still 3 up (20 CHA, it gives +CHA to Bullrush for me, am a STEELFIST COMMANDO)
>>46163572
No. I just allowed a bunch of min-maxers and powergamers and Mary Sues into my game under the guise of roleplay.
>>46162559
I thought /pfg/ was praising Hell's Vengeance? Did it turn out to be shit?
>>46164143
>min-maxers and powergamers
You're gonna have to be a bit more specific than that.
Okay, so. Let's say I wanna pick up some ranks in Profession (chef) and then justify them in my combat style. Which classes would lend the most legitimacy to all those ranks influencing not just my character's motives, but also his battles?
Also, best deities for chefs in Golarion?
>>46164127
Aye, but it's Bullrush specifically. Quicksilver Wave works for Trip, but other than that there are no noticeable cases at least on the short descriptions.
>>46164189
Extremely underwhelming insofar. Honestly, depending on how Book 2 plays out, it might be outright better to skip or speedrun Book 1.
