Friendly reminder MM2015 came out a year ago. If you want your staples from that set, the window is closing.
Twin ban was deserved, anyone who says otherwise is a cuck and should go back to yugioh
>>44992322
Wizards has successfully eliminated blue decks from modern. Mission accomplished.
>>44992404
You say that fully knowing that Delver is still alive and kicking. Shameful.
>>44992425
Why would banning Twin make Delver a better deck?
>>44992425
>delver
>good in this meta
>>44992322
Hooray, now we're in Tron: The Meta! Thanks, Wizards!
>tfw you want to drop $10 or so on boosters just to see what you get
is this really such a sin?
reminder to buy your jeskai ascendancies before its too late
>>44992322
Here's your reply
>>44992425
Delver is a really good card in Bolt: The Format.
>>44992451
Just buy a lottery ticket if that's what you want to do.
Faeries player here. Lost favorable match ups and now preparing for the Tron and Eldrazi shit storm.
>>44992451
buy a box, pull an expedition that pays for the box and then some
you know you want to
>>44992565
As a burn player choosing whether to bolt a delver or just burn the face is one of the hardest decisions I'm consistently presented with.
They run 4 delvers and counterspells, I only have 4 bolts.
>>44992425
Delver is a trap in Modern. The lack of good library manipulation means that you have to play far more creatures to reliably threaten your opponent's life total, which in turn and together with the lack of library manipulation, means that your Delvers are much less likely to flip.
>>44992451
No, its your money, do with it what you will.
I've pulled plenty of 50-100$ cards from random boosters I bought on a whim. I've also lost hundreds of dollars in the same way.
>>44992451
Go for it. Gambling is a big part of this game.I am also insanely lucky and always open cards that are worth more than the money I spent on the packs.
>>44992619
I usually wait to see if it flips. If they play Visions turn 1 and go top top into Delver then of course you bolt it right there though. I think the mu is still favored, though.
>>44992551
>mfw have 5 held up in my box at home
Now I have them safely stored until the price goes to $20 a pop
>>44992619
I've played U/R delver for a bit after cruise was banned. As burn, I feel like you could just front load all your damage before delver can get into a favorable board position. Always bolt the pyromancer though.
>>44992673
Memeskai is a shit deck and you know it. I'll feed on your tears once I extirpate ur Memeskai Ascendacy from your deck and burn it IRL.
All fa/tg/uys know no pro player will play Memeskai in a ProTour
>>44992596
i already do that
>>44992602
>>44992628
>>44992663
>tfw tempted
>DnT/Abzan/WBTokens
>>>44992215
That's my main concern, that DnT is too difficult to pilot for me. But on the other hand the mana base for Abzan will be expensive and I should challenge myself to become a more skilled player. And yes, I was worried tokens was too glass cannon/ not diverse enough.
>>44992425
>delver
>good
Delver was only good in Modern when it had Treasure Cruise. At all other points in the deck's history it's sucked donkey nuts in Modern. That's why Twin was such a thing, because even at the times when Twin wasn't very good all other blue decks in the format were fucking atrocious.
>>44992815
do it
>>44992815
You'll lose far more money doing it that way, but it's your money.
>>44992253
I thought about buying into Faeries, but holy fuck Cliques and BBs are outrageous.
Instead I decided to get my 4th Wooded Foothills and Windswept Heaths to up my fetchland collection to 4 sets out of 10 (other two being a set of Arid Mesas and Polluted Deltas). They'll probably repeat Faerie cards again when they get around to MM3, as a draft archetype it seems to be a fixture.
>>44993102
Don't. Buy into Twi- aww.
>>44993102
>They'll probably repeat Faerie cards again when they get around to MM3
but can you really take that chance?
>>44992815
Don't know what the rates are for pulling an Expedition, but I got one during prerelease.
Otherwise its probably worth buying a fat pack and keeping the land pack sealed for future price hikes.
Should i buy splinter twin now at 5 dollars to re-sell them when wizards realize they have made a mistake baning it?
>>44993193
>tango land
Ain't that a kick in the teeth
>>44993193
>cinder glade
At least you weren't the unlucky son of a bitch who pulled a Terramorphic Expanse.
>>44993193
Yeah, you pulled one of the shitty ones. And now there's going to be Expedition Tec Edges and shit. Seriously, whatever fucking moron thought that a $50 Tectonic Edge was a good idea can suck my wang.
guys... Bx Eldrazi looksfun. Should I build it?
>>44993297
>tfw no scrying sheets expedition
>>44993278
Dunno, its better than the land that prevents damage. Kor something.
>>44992815
ive pulled two foil arid mesas from boosters. spent 20 shekels, ended up with 200ish shekels worth of cards
>>44992551
Nah, bro. Goryo's Vengeance and Through the Breach is the way to go.
It's the second most fun thing you can do playing by yourself.
>>44993297
>>44993278
>>44993275
Cinder Glade is the only shyland that sees actual modern play. It's seeing some play in BTL/ RUG Scapeshift as Stomping Ground #5 and is a playset in Titanshift. Could've done worse, imo.
>>44992425
Delver is garbage without the Twin matchup to boost its winrate though, you baka.
>>44993185
Faeries is such an irrelevant constructed archetype it's a total shoe in for MM3 as a draft archetype.
Right up alongside RW Landfall.
>>44992815
>I already do that
Being a Jew in the 21st century must be so satisfying when so many people suck at mad
>>44993381
It's not really that fun.
>>44992663
>I am also insanely bad at remembering every crappy pack and even better at suffering from confirmation bias
fixed
>>44992404
Why do all of the autists love Blue so much? It's the fedora of magic colors only played by faggots who like to adjust their glasses and chuckle like a Yugioh villain as they counter spells. Red is the best color.
>>44992900
Just play all the decks over xmage or cockatrice or whatever before wasting your money
Once you've played all decks in this format you'll realize it's garbage and the only reason people keep playing is sunk cost
>>44993627
>Blue decks trying to interact with its opponent
>all the other decks just ignore their opponent and do their own thing
>autism
>people at LGS happy with the Twin ban
>ask why
>because it opens up the meta for other good blue red decks
>ask what decks are they talking about
>uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>44993422
But those decks are garbage. Any deck running btl is a joke
>>44993194
>Wizards
>realizing anything
>>44993627
>wanting the game to be Creatures: The Tappening
I'm glad Wizards panders to people like you
>>44993665
Most people I know who were happy about it either didn't play Modern or are just retards who play Tron.
>>44993627
Both colors are great but only when kept apart.
Izzet a shit.
>>44993705
> wanting Permission: sphinx rev edition
>>44993665
J E S K A I A S C E N D A N C Y
>>44993669
You think you can come in here, and talk shit like that, and get away with it? Think again, fucker.
>>44993627
>red is the best color
Spoken like a true retard
Blue is liked by good players because its main mechanics are card selection (i.e. consistency) and card advantage (i.e. winning)
Counters are just catch-all answers. They're not loved as much as they're just appreciated for almost always being the best option when you have to deal with some problem
But really, having a favourite color beyond mechanics makes you a pathetic manchild.
>>44993776
Shoe me on the doll where he killed your creature
>>44993778
He said good decks, anon.
>>44993778
Why would that memedeck get any better without twin?
>>44993795
Magic has evolved beyond draw go.
Get over it play something else
>>44993873
>masturbation is good
Why don't you just stay home and jack off?
I'm trying to decide my next deck to build for Modern, /tg/.
How is Troll Worship? I'm looking to build the WG version first so I can keep it budget for now and with my next paycheck, I would upgrade it to Bant with Geists and Swords of X and Y.
>>44993909
its more arousing when others are watching
So, uh... Playing Moonmist will kill a Jace, right?
>>44993873
This
Personally I play Zoo like a true patrician
Every time I turn my Wild Nacatl sideways I get a painful erection and have to satisfy it under the table
Fucking blue mages with there faggy blue counterspells are bullshit!!!!!
>>44993909
So in your world it's either control or all in combo?
>HOT NEW DECKS<
Coco Allies
Bant Knightfall
Black Eldrazi
Coco Slivers
Jeskai Ascendancy
Blue Extra Turns
Jeskai Flash Midrange
Kiki Chord
Blue Annex Midrange
UR Kiki
Feel free to post more hot new meta decks
>>44993776
>implying people do nothing but permission
The only difference between me casting Mana Leak on a Ravager and you Bolting it is that if he has an Etched Champion, you cry but I don't care. Also that my counters will get anything, but your Bolt can only Bolt.this is looking only at the cards used as answers, not how Bolt can also be a threat, you fucking idiot
if you even thought of bringing up that Bolt can go to the dome you're a moronic sack of shit and you're probably the product of cuckolding
>>44993909
>control
>not masturbation
Control is literally you telling the opponent to wait so you can jizz all over their face at the end.
This also describes Storm.
>>44993956
Not "new", but I have a good feeling about Ad Nauseam in this meta.
>>44993967
Then why not just play bolt if it's so similar? Just for the sake of crying?
>>44993956
Literally all those decks are terrible besides Kiki Chord is good
>>44993946
You can be solitaire without being combo.
E.g. Infect, Affinity, Burn, Tron, Scapeshift, Memedrazi (...)
So tell me, which world are we living in?
>>44993969
so turbofog is just nofap november.dec?
>>44994006
All of those decks can and will interact if you yourself aren't also playing 'solitaire'
>>44993619
Nah, I genuinely pull money cards consistently. Bought a box of Innistrad when the set came out for shits and giggles and to draft with my friends. Ended up with several Lilianas and a playset of Snapcasters.
Similar things have happened every time I've bought sealed products.
>>44993969
Control is trying to prevent your partner from prematurely blowing his load, making sure he doesn't get to leverage the opening's surprise factor before you can assemble the tools needed for your sexual extravaganza, and then giving him the loving of a lifetime when he's run out of gas and you're still there with a full tube of lube
>>44994022
My balls have never been more blue when faced against Turbofog
>>44994000
>bant
>bad
How could the new twin be bad?
>>44993946
No, but Modern is pretty much all linear, noninteractive decks. Burn, Affinity, Tron, and Infect and Eldrazi vary from "I have a few spells to slow you down" to "turn 2 hellbent"
>>44993969
I would rather play Control than any linear deck. At least you're actually playing Magic if you lose.
>>44994006
Non-Titan Scapeshift is pretty interactive, especially for a modern deck.
>>44994045
>Similar things have happened every time I've bought sealed products.
Right, I'm far more liable to believe this over the fact that you just didn't feel the exceptions were worth remembering.
Also, everyone playing in Innistrad already had a playset of Snapcasters for 10 dollars/each. Only cost me $40 for my playset as compared to your what, 100 for a box?
Nice luck you got.
Seriously, recommending people to buy boosters should be punished with beheading because both the man recommending and anyone who believes it is a complete retard
>>44994091
>counterspells equal interactivity
>>44992253
I want Bitterblossoms for tokens but their price is bullshit, they didn't go down at all with the reprint.
Should I build Junk or Scapeshift?
Just opened two kozilek's returns. I am building naya burn and am aspiring to get tarns at one point.
Should I care about them or should I trade them off ASAP?
>>44993665
The fact that people actually believe corporate statements is actually a huge eye-opener to me.
Imagine if it's always been like this in other industries too, and we just thought no one believed it because we weren't in the loop.
If we'd been in the competitive monkey makeup market or something
>>44993996
Are you illiterate or did you just have trouble reading my post through the tears?
>>44993584
oh well. It looks fun to process shit.
>>44992619
Burn can't lose to Delver, this is not Legacy.
And Burn is favored in Legacy even if just 55/45 instead of the 70/30 of Modern.
>>44994043
>playing your sideboard card if you drew it is interaction
Modern players, everyone
>>44994170
You straight up said there is little difference between bolt and leak
>>44994136
Sell them they can only go down
>>44994201
>Making shit up
Children on 4chan everyone
>>44992762
Its a bye against tron though.
>>44994091
Control just shoving answers down your throat isn't any less linear than burn shoving threats down your throat.
>>44994207
>if he has an Etched Champion, you cry but I don't care
i.e. counterspells are a universal solution while other forms of answers are much more narrow
i.e. counters are a way for the control deck to have several ways to answer any given deck's plan in the main 60, as opposed to other decks' far narrower (and more powerful sometimes, of course) sideboard answers
i.e. you don't play the counterspells just to say no and draw a bunch of cards, you do it for the same reason play Stony Silence against affinity: making your own deck marginally worse so that you can hopefully drastically reduce the quality of the opponent's deck and thereby squeeze out a win
i.e. Bolt et al are narrow, counters are general you boob
>>44994235
Please, tell me how """"interactive"""" affinity is.
>>44994127
BGx is dead. Play Scapeshift.
>>44992673
The next cards to explode are Eidolon of the Great Revel and Goblin Guide because Burn is the only deck that can beat Tron, Eldrazi, Affinity and Infect with the same 75.
>>44994272
>Control has infinite answers to answer everything you do and they can solitaire the best sequence of counters against you without even knowing what cards you're playing
>>44994317
>scapeshit against a field of hyper aggro decks and big mana decks
yea good luck with that one
>>44994335
>he doesn't play Deflecting Palm
It's going to be the most stupid card ever in the 2016 meta.
[freedom intensifies]
>>44994315
Galvanic blast
Thoughtseize
Spell pierce and others
Ghirapur grid
Dispatch
Whipflare
>>44994390
>plains isnt full art
>>44994390
>he still plays Combust
>>44994423
Full art is kinda lame
>>44994390
>Combust
Did you get that list from 2013 or something?
>>44993956
LOAM POX
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>>44992253
>Rebecca Guay still paints artwork for M:TG 15 years after I first saw her concept art
Even though I stopped playing a decade ago, for some reason this gives me a warm comforting feeling. Maybe it's the familiarity and assurance. Regardless, I'm happy to have noticed this card on the front page.
>>44994451
>>44994479
Maybe he needs it for his meta. I run it for all the rhinos, baneslayers and restos
Hits big goyf too
>>44993193
>Needle Spires
I'm still mad that's what the RW manland ended up being.
>>44994385
Scapeshift is actually pretty solid against aggro. Four bolts mainboard to kill burns guides and a couple spells snares for their eidolons, along with a set of remands to keep them behind and a set of cryptic commands which are usually online by turn 3. You also have a couple Baloths and flashfreezes in your sideboard.
>>44994385
>playing BGx in a meta filled with nothing but Tron
Why is Triple H a MTG character?
>>44994537
>hits goyf
>goyf is blue or white
/tg/ is bad at magic
>>44994537
>goyf really is blue this time
>>44994653
>cherry picking
what's your opinion on lili for this new meta, /tg/?
The one saving grace of playing merfolk right now is using spreading seas on eye of ugins and temples. Just get to watch all these bandwagoners get visibly flustered the moment i drop that shit and their hand becomes uncastable.
>>44994705
BGx is dead for now.
8 Rack is just as shitty as ever.
>>44992253
My friend wants to get into magic, specifically modern, but he's being a cheap ass (despite having more expendable income than I do) and would rather play pauper.
How do I make him stop being a cheap ass and explain to him pauper is worse than modern?
And please no splinter twin ass hurt fags saying "pauper is better because twin was banned waaaahhhh"
>>44994705
would cast
>>44994753
This post. I don't fucking.
Your friend can spend his money however the fuck he wants. If he wants to play Pauper he should play Pauper.
>>44994753
Pauper is great, fuck you mate. And I'm not just saying that because I can't afford Modern, I play affinity.
>>44993956
Plz dont make me buy into slivers, it looks too fun but i need to buy affinity.
>>44994705
>tfw you made that shitty proxy and people saved it
Life is good.
>>44994753
Pauper has Boros Bushwhacker though.
I fucking love that archetype.
>>44994753
Paupers fucking great.
However its completely dead in paper, go online if you want to play it.
>>44993578
It's not like they changed the way they teach math on purpose or anything.
>>44994478
all the other lands are full art though
>>44994872
This. Pauper, along with Momir Basic, is an online only format.
>>44994653
>implying goyf isn't blue
It's a good card
ergo
Blue
>>44994521
Bitterblossom is from Lorwyn block though, that's ages ago
MtG art is way more streamlined and bland now
>>44994753
>but he's being a cheap ass (despite having more expendable income than I do) and would rather play pauper.
people don't accumulate income by just squandering it, maybe you should take some pointer from him you cuck
>>44993662
Blue doesn't interact, Black and White interact. Blue sits in it's corner drawing cards and yelling out NO! until the other player gives up.
>>44994705
Lili worst loli
>>44995054
This is why I refuse to use Crumble to Dust over Sowing Salt.
>>44994785
>>44994813
>>44994839
>>44994872
>>44995069
I should say that our entire group plays modern and he wants to do paperback pauper, not online.
It's just kind of like "that's cool you guys do this, but you should totally disregard that shit and do that"
>>44994753
He's go more expendable income than you because he's not as retarded, uneducated and puerile as you.
Modern sucks and only idiots (e.g. you) play it.
As much can be easily be seen from you having to ask at a Polynesian Beekeeping Referendum why a format you've already decided is bad without ever playing is worse than a format to which it's in fact strictly superior.
>>44995140
Only idiots hang out in threads they have no relation to
>>44995128
Let him build Boros Bushwhacker, it's a fun deck.
>>44995128
It's saying "you guys are fucking idiots and I won't buy into your shitty cult, if you want to play with me you know my conditions and if you don't want to, that's fine because I don't care enough about this shitty hobby to make it a central part of my interaction with my friends and I'll just do something else instead, but I won't waste money on shit that I don't even like"
>>44995172
So you say, and this might be true, but I wouldn't know. I've got a strong relationship and rapport built up with Modern general through schadenfreude
>>44995108
No it isn't, you play Sowing Salt to rub it into Tron's face and because you enjoy injecting sodium directly into their frustrated bums.
>>44994451
>>44994479
baneslayer and rhino f@m
>>44995128
Well a paper pauper deck outside of things like mono u gush decks are like $5 to build.
Theres nothing wrong with asking your playgroup if they would be interested in buillding pauper decks as a fuck around thing. We have like 9 or 10 of them all together and will do random deck pauper tournaments every once in a blue moon and its a blast.
But lets be real anon, asking someone just starting to play magic to "build a modern deck its only a few thousand dollars" is a real shitty thing to do. Draft or play sealed or cube with the guy or give him one of the groups budget deck to play with.
>>44993956
Wait a second, are coco allies even playable? Last time I have checked it was a bottom tier 3 deck.
>>44995237
These are both reasons I run it. And also because Kamigawa and Ravnica are my favorite blocks.
>>44995054
What? But it says "Rebecca Guay" at the bottom left! No? The image is kinda blurry...
>>44994091
Burn was the first competitive deck, 20 Lotus, 20 Recall, 20 Bolt was a thing.
Where do I go to get my ching chong fakes?
So uh, how bad of a deck would this be for a player just getting into modern?
>>44994388
I play DP but it's a rare in the most opened set in history that's only year and a half old. Those aren't conditions for drastic appreciation.
>>44995419
MtGproxyfactory. Keep in mind he only sells fakes in $100 assortments.
Most people here say they get them, and I hear a lot of people talk about they shitty quality. One of my friends tried it and never even got a confirmation email from the chink.
>>44995368
Back when there was no limit on how many cards you could have of the same name in a deck the generally agreed upon minimum number of cards in a deck was 40.
Also, Lotus+Channel+Fireball is more likely the deck you're thinking of.
>>44994521
Bitterblossom is 9 years old.
The last card Rebecca painted is 7 years old.
>>44993422
dont need only btl for it to be in scapeshift. you can replace a stomping ground with it (you dont fetch that many red shocks so it gives you an option since u get a lot of basic land ramp any) or a mountain if ur so inclined (same story basically)
>>44995460
It looks fun honestly. Go for it.
Just don't pretend like it's tier 1 awesome deck and you'll be fine
>>44995460
there was a slivers deck similar to this one that reached top 8 in an scg open several months back before getting its shit slapped by infect. You might want to refer to that list.
>>44995535
>The last card Rebecca painted is 7 years old.
Well fuck, now I'm sad. First my car dies, then this. I wish I hadn't thought of her today or expressed that idea at all, life is just a downward slope of tired disappointment.
>>44995474
You got a URL? Google is giving me nothing.
>>44992565
>Delver is a really good card in Bolt: The Format.
Then why isn't Delver bad in Legacy the format who runs the most efficient removal (because Vintage doesn't have time to dedicate those slots.
>>44995482
those are completely unrelated decks
the decks that played channel fireball weren't even burn decks, they were just good decks that played a turn 1 kill
>>44995711
creature removal is much less common in legacy, as are creature wincons.
>>44990135
>Caw-blade
Too bad I lost my Dragon Rulers pasta.
>>44995635
IKTF senpai
>>44995635
>I wish I hadn't thought of her today or expressed that idea at all
It will be OK, Anon. Guay is doing her thing and she's doing fine.
>>44995711
Brainstorm.
Delver is always a 3/2 the game after you play him, he hits at least once for 3, most often twice.
In Modern Delver doesn't flip and the second most popular removal after Bolt is Swords, not Abrupt Decay. Sometimes gifting your Delver opponent 3 life in Legacy is a death sentence.
>>44994047
Underrated post
>>44995460
As control is dead cavern isn't that important anymore.
>>44995711
Brainstorm, Stifle, Wasteland, Daze, Force of Will
/tg/ help me not build tron. I don't know what to play in modern.
How is competition at FNMs at your local game stores? I'm considering getting into modern and I was wondering how it looks, I've been lurking around these threads for a couple of days and it seems like things that aren't tier 1 or 2 are a waste of time. I don't have enough money to just drop 600$ on a deck so I was thinking of building a budget version of something and getting cards I need over time. Is it possible to do? I saw a couple of budget affinity options that are upgradable but I'm not very interested in that archetype. Something like Delver, Faeries or Death and Taxes seems much more fun to play.
>>44996025
burn m'nigger, go kill those tron nerds.
>>44995999
Holy hell, TRIPS confirm >>44996025 is a spooky skeleton.
>>44996025
Build mono U tron
>>44995975
What would i use to replace it then?
>>44996025
You're destined to build Reassembling Skeleton Pox.
>>44996025
NICE TRY, RATTLE-ME-BONES
BACK TO THE GRAVEYARD WITH YOU
>>44994705
You don't give a shit, you just wanted an excuse to post that didn't you?
>>44995975
Its a 5 color tribal land in a near 5 color deck.
It would be moronic to remove it.
>>44996184
not really man, I'm just not replying because I agree on how BGx is dead etc etc
Is ascendancy combo a good deck to play in this meta? Is it a good deck to play if I want to play a deck similar to eggs with second sunrise?
>>44996254
if you enjoy jerking off onto your playmat for 15 minutes, yes
>>44995460
-Get a split between Manaweft and Gemhide Sliver. Dodges fringe maelstrom pulse cases.
-Run Bonescythe Sliver in the mainboard. Probably getting rid of a Diffusion Sliver.
-Run Chord of Calling if you're going to run Sentinel Sliver. Vigilance is overrated since you're going to get islandwalked by Merfolk and trade poorly with Goyf. Your only real advantage with Vigilance is against a weenie deck like Burn or Hatebears.
>>44996237
>>44995975
You can go jew mode and just use ancient ziggurat instead. Unless you don't mind burning bux, then go for caves.
>>44992404
>ban red card that has purely red effects
>Blue players complain that it hurts blue
Maybe you should start using mill or unblockables or another actual blue wincon, rather than pretending that red/colorless combos are blue just because they can go infinite.
>>44996254
Free win vs Tron. Slightly harder vs Eldrazi because of the disruption, race vs every other aggro deck
>>44996348
>Maybe you should start using mill or unblockables or another actual blue wincon
You're telling people to lose?
Posting my U/R Delver list again, would go Grixis but then I couldn't play my jank cards.
>>44996348
>mill
So you quite literally can't beat Tron and you're too slow for Burn/Affinity.
>unblockables
Just because he can't block you doesn't mean you're winning the damage race, numbnuts.
>>44996392
No I'm telling people to stop calling their combo brew a blue deck because they put a counterspell in it. It's like calling every deck with bolt in it a red burn deck.
Now that twin is gone, we'll start to see the return of good blue cards. Maybe not the cantrips, because storm, but wizards is getting more comfortable printing "sometimes counterspell" and "sometimes ancestral recall" effects.
>>44996501
Looks good. Now replace 2 of the Probes and the 2 Stormchaser Mages with 4 Snapcasters and you're good to go.
>>44993933
Gets rekt by infect and affinity.
>>44993936
Yep
>>44996044
Unfortunately fun decks are not cheap and Delver, D&T, and Faeries will burn through your $600.
I honestly do not recommend playing the format. Like most decks the only cards that are interchangeable are your mana base and your mana base is going to be the most expensive part of your deck. Prices are outrageous and budget options quickly don't become budget even though they're on the fringe. The only reason I'm playing it is because I got in on the ground level and now my Modern cards have tripled in value. You will get more play-time using your $600 on Limited or Standard. Or use the $600 to buy fakes. $250 should get you four sets of 56 cards that contain most of the manabase and high-end cards in Modern. The remaining money can be used on filling out the deck.
The only recommendation I can give to anyone who wants to experience the format at all is to just build mega-budget burn. Just pick up every burn spell that's 3 damage to the face including Incinerate and Searing Spear and Monastery Swiftspear and go to town. Though not as effective, some decks are still cold to it.
Today, I watched a guy spend over a hundred dollars on three cards. I don't care how much money you actually have, that is a poor fucking choice.
>>44996254
I destroy your ascendancy. What you do now?
>>44997169
Poor fag go away for fuck sakes
>>44997416
I'm not poor. I'm pointing out that the format is not worth paying for unless you plan on buying counterfeit cards.
>>44995209
That's really sad, lurking in a thread due to spite.
>tfw you hope for the pro tour to be all linear decks so your whining is justified and you can continue to do so until wotc finally unbans a good and fun card
so is playing a 3CMC card that dies to burn not worth it? I like glissa, the traitor for deathtouch and firststrike on one body but I asssume it'd just get removed too easily.
Is Grixis Control dead in the new meta?
>>44997693
don't think of it as too easily removed, think of it as a bait so your other goyfs/raptors etc can go through.
>>44997693
The real issue is that she's fair.
Not big enough or tricky enough to win with.
But then half the decks in the format or more aren't going to try to win with combat damage in a way she can deal with. Legendary, so you can't get 2 out if you draw them. Basically, it's a good card, it's not good enough that you couldn't find something better.
>>44992322
Shut up Karn
>>44997535
and yet I'm still here, pointing and laughing
>LGS has 4 RG Tron players and 3 Twin players
>Tron players celebrating hard
>Twin players converted to Scapeshift, Ad Nauseam and Jeskai Ascendancy
>Tron players get rump roasted last FNM since all they did was watch the ex-Twinfags go off
Feels good to watch tbqh senpai
>>44997693
The removal checks of the format are Path to Exile and Lightning Bolt.
This does not mean that cards that die to those spells are unplayable. But the decks that that get fried by those spells usually have some means to apply continuous pressure or the creatures are blank to Path but not Bolt. And the creatures that do eat a Path the deck can leverage the extra mana.
See:
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deckdatabase/displaydeck.php?DeckID=97570
See how this deck is very vulnerable to 1-for-1 removal. But it shreds the opponent's hand and often kills the opponent with one or two creatures.
>>44997898
Whatever clogs your arteries, bud.
>>44997937
>Twin players converted to Scapeshift, Ad Nauseam and Jeskai Ascendancy
Cards wizards should unban:
>JTMS
>SFM
>BBE
>Preordain
>Green sun's zenit
>>44998255
D R E A D R E T U R N
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>>44997643
Fun for only one player, you mean.
>>44998255
>>44998362
and me too!
>>44997643
>wotc unbanning a relevant card ever
How do tokens decks generally respond to board wipes? It seems like if you're pretty set back if your bitterblossoms have taken a third of your life and then everything gets supreme verdicted.
>>44998427
Best card desu
>>44998255
>Jace
Yes, and watch the price spike to Tarmogoyf levels.
>SFM
She's a midrange tool now, I don't know why she's still banned
>BBE
Considering BGx is dead in this meta I'm fine with the value train
>Preordain
Makes blue stronger in a Tron meta. I'm good with it.
>Green Sun
I don't know how to feel about this.
>>44998497
lingering souls is a good card
also by not overextending
>>44998497
Giving key creatures pro color/indestructible/regeneration and recuperating the turn after
>>44998255
Everyone is fine but Green Sun's Zenith, those green creature decks really need no more help after Collected Company.
>>44998497
Oh how about a spell that increases their toughn-
>destroy all
oh okay well then just coun-
>can't be countered
Welp.
Boros Charm?
Mardu tokens ww@
>>44996044
http://mtgtop8.com/event?e=11140&d=263396&f=MO
just play infect until you learn what you love. its simple and good.
>>44997762
yes
>>44997937
sounds like some should be playing infect there.
>>44998802
There's already 3 Infect players. Those twinfags want to be speshul snowflakes too, thus the deck choices
>>44997372
A. Combo off on a turn where you tap out. B. Play a second one.
>>44998532
>Jace
The price is no problem if you talk to chinamen
Also maybe they should unban Shardless Agent and see UG get something good
>>44998849
i was about to tell you to play it anon because that meta is great for it.
>>44998885
I think Agent is commander so it's not even unbannable although I could be wrong.
>>44998849
>he doesn't want to be speshul
Okay mr. midrange. Or should I call you aggro? If that IS your real name...
I'll be here with my sickass totally rad solitaire combo. Meet you at turn 4, kid.
*unsheaths deck*
>>44997643
>Wanting the format to be even more stupidly expensive than it already is
>>44995301
I mean it probably still is but that doesn't stop it from making top 8.
BFZ and OGW helped out, lantern scout as maybe a 2 of and a playset of Ally Encampment, I forget what else is relevant.
Probably not merfolk-tier but it can win games for sure.
I've been pulling in wins with Turns though so IMO you can beat t1 decks with t2 decks; however, not all of em, hence why it's t2
does anyone here know how good mono red control is?
>>44999126
I do. It isn't.
>>44999126
Skred Red with Koth the Hammer and Scry Sheets. +Budget
>>44996044
i've gone 2-1-0 at the last two modern days at my local shop, playing a janky deck that is far from tier1 or 2. I spent around 140 but it could probably be built for under $200 right now.
The meta is generally affinity, 8rack, Utron, RGtron, infect, merfolk, sometimes UWx control, delver, etc. You should try to scope out modern events at ur shop and see what decks pop up, to figure out what might be viable for you to bring.
I would also advise you to try out different decks on cockatrice or proxy or whatever before buying anything.
Also, you can do red burn pretty cheap as >>44997169 suggested.
>>44999120
Quite interesting, as the monogreen stompy guys from mtg salvation are crying after twin (as supposedly the twin ban nerfed their deck matchup wise). I thought other tier 3 competitive decks shared the similar fate.
>>44992815
>tfw i made that reaction image
>tfw there's another shirayuki fan that plays modern
>>44992599
I play faeries too. I don't usually have much of an issue with tron. Sucks we lost the twin matchup though
>>44998416
Most good cards aren't going to be fun for both players
>>44999126
Skred? In an aggro heavy meta sure.
>>44999423
Understandable, Stompy has a good Twin matchup and they lost that one. Tron fucks them over with Ugin
>>44995367
It does, it's Guay alright.
It's just that she drew it in Lorwyn block where Bitterblossom originally came out. They just reused it recently when it was reprinted.
I think she does occasionally make art now too, but there ain't a lot of it. I think the last was in Tenth edition
>>44992602
>>44992815
>Buy a booster box
>No Chandra (Even if she sucks, I like her card), No Tazri, No Expedition, mostly jank outside of a Kozilek
>Cousin buys one booster from a store
>Rugged Prairie
>>44999452
Or people can just be mature enough to roll with the punches, appreciate a victory even if you were in the losing end
>>44995474
Why buy them if they're shitty quality?
I've seen several other vendors who reportedly have great customer service and quality, so what's the upside on this factory guy?
>>44996338
>not using both
maximum pleb
>>44999165
>>44999181
>>44999453
is Skred fun to play and ok in formate wit a lot of white? Abzan big zoo burn an affinty show up a lot at my LGS?
>>44998255
And second sunrise.
>>44995635
Look at it this way Anon, she jumped ship because she knew she was too good for the newer, shittier art direction
>>44999535
>12 creature-restricted lands
Do you even want to cast you coco?
>>44995711
1-for-1 removal is pretty meh unless you're backing it up with something to win the game, and for most decks that backup plan requires too streamlined a list to pack mainboard 1-for-1 removal
>>44996025
>spooking the format
shoo shoo mr memetal
