TRON IS KING Edition
SCG Charlotte Open happening right now on Twitch (SCGLive)
>>44672238
Tron has been getting blown out though.
>>44672238
if sword of the meek gets unbanned how viable would tezzerater be?
So, continuing a topic from last thread. Is there anywhere the modern community can go now to view matchup win percentage of archetypes now that such data is gone from MTGgoldfish?
>>44672324
mtgtop8.com
What's a fun non-red deck archetype to play? I typically play either burn or R/G Aggro, so I am going for something new to make/play.
>>44672339
>>44672324
mtgtop8, and one of the mods from mtgs has a really nice site going with modern play data that is much better than mtgtop8, I think it's called modernnexus
>>44672371
what's your budget and what type of deck do you want to play, modern has dozens of different archetypes
Why is Tron so best?
mono-u and uw don't apply, obviously
Esper control or Jeskai control, which is the least shit?
Top Decks (source: Modern Nexus). Do note decks below Naya Company often flicker between Tier 2 and Tier 3 (last time we had Knightfall, for example).
>>44672424
Because you get to cast HUGE THINGS.
>>44672339
Doesn't mtgtop8 only have the percentage of the meta each deck takes up (in a radically inaccurate manner)? Not trolling, I just can't find the information I'm looking for.
>>44672424
because you can play it completely on autopilot and get to play the big smashy boom cards
>>44672371
mono green stompy, budget zoo
>>44672424
Because Ulamog speeds up the deck's "Game Over" aspect. No need to work hard to get to Emrakul anymore.
Built this pile the other week. Went 3-1 last FNM. Thank god for Burn/Zoo/Affinity meta
4x Bloodstained More
4x Wooded Foothills
2x Blood Crypt
2x Overgrown Tomb
1x Godless Shrine
1x Stomping Grounds
3x Ghost Quarter
1x Tectonic Edge
1x Dragonskull Summit
2x Swamp
1x Forest
1x Mountain
4x Bloodghast
2x Golgari Bloodscale
1x Squee, Goblin Nabob
1x Vengeful Pharoah
4x Faithless Looting
4x Life from the Loan
4x Smallpox
3x Lingering Souls
3x Zombie Infestation
2x Magma Vortex
1xConflagrate
1x Flame Jab
1x Raven's Crime
1x Abrupt Decay
1x Go for the Throat
1x Murderous Cut
2x Terminate
2x Darkblast
SB
3x Ancient Grudge
3x Ray of Revelation
1x Bojuka Bog
2x Jund Charm
1x Vengeful Pharoah
1x Golgari Brownscale
1x Terminate
1x Lingering Souls
2x Dreadbore
I wish they reprinted cycling lands.
>>44672555
It's just Loam Pox
>>44672317
Bitter Ordeal with pyrite backup
Some game 2's require Master of Etherium to come in and beat a little face if I'm afraid of stony silence or rip
>>44672238
Oh goodie, more amulet bloom.
>>44672604
It is, which is why I had fun with it, but didn't expect to win
>>44672555
>That pic
Mah nignog
>>44672648
going to need a source on that anon
>>44672324
The old matchup analysis page is still on goldfish though it's obviously a bit outdated but still worth perusing a bit.
mtggoldfish.com/metagame/breakdown/modern
>>44672691
Just search Akai Mato.
Not for fans ofpegging, femdom, chastity, orgasm denial and forced feminization
>>44672555
I still have no clue what to do vs BGx decks when they land an ooze. Relics and RIPs are ez to play around, but Ooze just adds a clock
>>44672606
That's another way to do it. I usually bring in Erase for those match-ups and just combo out.
How salty/whiny are people in your meta when you bust it out?
Post the craziest, most illogical unban you'd actually want to see happen
For me it'sSensei's Divining Top
>>44672804
Deathrite Shaman
>>44672804
Hypergenesis
Glimpse of Nature
Dread Return
>>44672238
I'm gonna keep dredgeposting and you can't stop me
Is there any chance ravagers will go down in price?
That Amulet Bloom player really punted. Don't open yourself to the opponent's ONLY ONLY ONLY out.
>>44672804Second SunriseDread Return
>>44672804
Preordain and Ponder.While also banning a storm piece and snapcaster mage to compensate.
>>44672830
>Hypergenesis
What makes this significantly more broken than Living End?
>>44672804
Skullclamp and Artifact Land
>>44672804
JITTE. It all comes down to which Rhino hits first.
>>44672895
Putting an Emrakul or something of that caliber onto the battlefield T3 seems better than 3 or so Cyclers.
>>44672867
>Is there any chance [modern staple] will ever go down in price?
>>44672895
Cascade into Hypergenesis putting an Emrakul into play. That's one of the options.
>>44672932
Man, this inflation of prices is bullshit They should have re released ravagers in MM2.
>>44672976
>Wizards should have done something right!
You're asking for a lot man.
If Tron is king, doesn't that mean it'll soon be burn's time to usurp the throne?
>>44672943
>>44672929
You need both a cascade card and a fatty to make it work, though, whilst Living End only needs the Cascade card in a deck made of cantrips
>>44673030
Tron is never king, it forever surfs the sinusoid of free win matchup metagame and awful matchup metagame
>>44672414
Budget is... well, budget.
I'm not usually a big fan of control, honestly, even though I have some decent spells for it.
>>44672492
I'll look into them.
>>44673034
Decks run Progenitus, Emrakul, Ulamog, Jin-Gitaxias, etc. and being able to do it at instant speed with Violent Outburst seems exceedingly better than Cantripping bad creatures.
RG Tron is for brain dead babbies, prove me wrongYou can't even do that
>>44673080
Your jelly is showing
>>44673085
don't play stompy if you want a change of pace, it's exactly the same as GR aggro
Tokens used to be my go-to reasonably priced deck that's fun, interesting and pretty good but holy shit those IoK prices.
>>44673146
you are right, but also salty
Anal devastated Mono blue tron player detected. Sorry if you don't like winning.
>>44673160
Search your feelings, you know it to be true
I play merfolk so tron is a pretty fun MU to play for me
>>44673034
Living End is also quite vulnerable to GY disruption. Theoretical Hypergenesis decks in Modern if it was legal can also drop in a Progenitus, Griselbrand, Terastodon. On a lesser note it can also put in a Deciever Exarch and a Splinter Twin.
Pls unban Dread Return. Dredge dindu nuffin. Relic and Nihil spellbomb MD will keep the deck at bay
>>44673178
>RG tron players aren't even capable of replying
>>44672793
It's Fucking hilarious
I do bring in disenchants too
>>44673226
LE can simply play its plan B of hardcasting its creatures. Some builds pack in Avalanche Riders so it becomes virtually 11 stone rain.dec
>>44673230
What would a modern dredge deck even look like, you're missing like half the cards even wth DR unbanned
>>44673230
If they unbanned Dread Return dredge would be close in power level to its Legacy counterpart
I mean I would love that shit but it ain't happening
>>44673146
Nobody's going to try to prove you wrong.
Every new player is playing Tron right now.
>>44673268
Yeah but why would you want to ever hardcast creatures if Hypergenesis was legal? Lets just dump entire hands onto the tabnle.
>>44673283
It'll pack in shit like Grisly Salvage and that Satyr that dumps creatures to your yard. I recall seeing a list with Craterhoof Behemoths and Unburial Rights during mid-Khans block that died out fast. Its pretty cool but Unburial Rights is way too slow.
The lack of Ichorids, 1 mana discard outlets and Cabal Therapy hurt it though
>>44672238
>Decks that can take out Tron fold to everything else
>Decks that can take out Decks that can take out Tron fold to Tron
Tron tier 0 when?
>>44673374
Same shit happened back in Caw-Blade era standard
>Decks that have good chances of beating Cawblade fold to Valakut
>Valakut folds to Cawblade
>>44673285
it will never be close without cabal therapy
and it will especially never be close without lions eye diamond
or ichorids for that matter
>>44673420
And it went back too as far as Affinity era Standard.
I want Amulet Bloom to do poorly this tournament so it reduces the chance of a ban
>>44672555
>reprint cycling lands
I wish Shadows of Innistrad would have that. I can see Cycling making a comeback along with Madness, but that's just me daydreaming. It will truly make an impact on the format as Loam decks will now be a real thing
>>44673373
What would you use to sac to DR though? You got Narcomoebas and I guess Bloodghast could work
Then you have the lack of drawing power with no cards like Breakthrough or Bazaar, so you get to use Faithless Looting and what else? And as you said, no Cabal Therapy
I'd never see a DR unban coming because dredge is boo boo mean unfun but I don't even think it'd be that good in modern
>>44672895
Hypergenesis is just so much more robust, you have no idea.
LE gets demolished by a lot of incidental sources, requires you to sit there cycling for three turns, and doesn't have the absolutely horrid nonbo of drawing tons of cards when your game plan requires you to have specific cards in your deck and not your hand.
>>44673510
Satyr Wayfinders
Mana dorks
>>44673250
Disenchants are great in terms of versatility, but I usually find it hard to spare two mana the turn before going off.
I think most of my sideboard cards are one mana even, but it changes a lot so I'm not sure right now.
John Taylor misplay vs Amulet Bloom, giving him an untapped land with his ghost quarter which enables him to play another amulet and push out titan this turn instead of next one.
Meanwhile, chat is circlejerking how op the deck is.. oh man, why are so many people so fucking retarded
>>44673616
This
The deck is good but people tend to over-exaggerate it. I'm betting it will eat some crippling ban because of how hard people cry over this deck
2bh I wish more people in my meta played Bloom. It's close to free wins for my Elves unless they go for Hivemind win
>>44673616
True, it seems a lot of the complaints with Bloom is player's not knowing how to deal with it, or not wanting to deal with it even, if you look at people's deck lists.
It looks like everyone's already anticipating a ban, but I could see Bloom jumping the gun, which could be very interesting for the modern meta, or precipitate a historical emergency ban in response to player complaints.
>>44673665
Sadly yes. Its incredible how everyone is raging about the SCG Cincinnati perfomance, disregarding the fact that Bobby was probably one of the luckiest player in the tournament with how many nut hands he drew. Also completly disregarding all the fucking misplays his opponents were doing.
Most people, especially almost all of the pro's only want it banned because it forces them to play differently.
>mono blue tron
>Mono U Tron deck tech
There goes the budget Tron deck.
>>44673743
Thanks someone understands me. The deck is just completly different from other decks, but no one actually wants to think differently so they cry about the turn 2 titans that maybe happen 10% of the time.
I really want to trust wizards, I hope they don't ban it. But I think even if they didn't want to ban it, they have to because all of the community outrage and everyone talking nonstop how ridicoulus the deck is.
>U tron
Ayyyyy
>Academy Ruins, Mindslavers, Wurmcoil Engines spike incoming
>>44673840
Not banning would probably be the healthy solution in the long term, but I play die-hard eggs so I'm a little biased towards players playing unconvential decks.
>>44673840
The community should suck it up. I really hate this generation of MtG players. If this were a fighting game, the devs would tell them to suck it up and get good if it isn't obviously and factually broken
What aboutBlue Moonvs Tron?
>>44673914
The thing with eggs is, it took so fucking long.
>>44673918
I really really hope they don't ban it. Would restore my trust in WotC. But imagine the outlash if they didn't ban it. Knowing reddit and the kind of users there are, there would be probably thousands "jumping ship" like with the judge supsension thing
>>44673984
True, but modern iterations are significantly faster to perform, only a little slower than Bloom maybe.
>i-infect j-just won turn 3! B-but I don't have to play around it differently so its okey
btw really nice match, dismembering his own land, wow
>>44672555
Man Loam Pox is such a fun deck to play, I wish it gets more tools in the near future.
>>44674158
What are its strengths and weaknesses? Looks like a cool deck that doesnt cost that much
>>44674210
If it doesn't draw its engines it just doesn't do anything
It folds to graveyard hate
It folds to Tron
It can outgrind pretty much every other deck
>>44674210
Its good against aggro, with the exception of Merfolk because of Spreading Seas and unblockability. It has the capability to end games if it manages to draw into Magma Vortex and Life from the Loan. It plays around traditional GY hate well, but struggles against continuous effects like Scaveging Ooze and RIP.
It's problematic matchups are combo decks game 1, but can manage to catch up game 2 with more Raven's Crime postboard to strip their hand senseless, and Tron due to it not giving a shit and packing MD Relics.
lmao bw tokens
>>44673914
>people actually think wizards won't trigger ban things
>in modern
>MFW
>>44674366
Surprisingly 8-0 though.
>>44674143
Can someone tell me the details of the infect match? I couldnt watch it cause of work :(
>>44674366
>>44674409
there's a tokens player at my shop, it's way underrated. getting 4-6 tokens and dropping that token athem or sad sorin can make big fucking swings out of nowhere.
>>44674410
Only the last match was on camera.
Taylor had a glistener elf, 2 lands and hierarch. His enemy had 2 poison counters.
The taps his dryad arbor for mana, fucking dismembers it, protects his elf with the 2 mana protection spell (forgot the name) against the enemy voice of resurgence and with the dismember and dryad he has enough cards in the graveyard to cast become immense for the win
>>44674450
It is actually a very resilient deck if a little slow and hard to hate on. But the Tron matchup is not the greatest.
>>44673374
>>44673420
When did tron become so powerful? Last I checked fast combo, twin, and fast aggro decks could easily beat it.
>>44674541
when tron players pulled their head out of their ass and started mainboarding spellskite to give them an edge in the infect/twin match up.
>>44674541
The new Ulamog is pretty powerful for the deck
>>44674534
IMO tokens isn't great, but at least better than elves which completly fold to bordwipe, while tokens only get set back
>twin fags getting blown out by weenie tokens
>>44674570
Better get an extra copy of Newlamog before it spike D:
>>44674534
I would imagine that Tokens runs enough hand disruption to fuck up a Tron player's match.
Is that not the case?
>waiting for XMage to add the last cards from OGW so I can start testing my shitty brew
>>44674596
Already got my copy, and it already spiked.
>>44674580
I actually play Elves and my tech against the usual fast damage based board wipes is Mark of Asylum. I've considered running Dauntless Escorts in the side too.
I've also been really tempted to go an old old route involving Ant Queen and Eldrazi Monument
man I had to run outside and see what was fucking with my dog, what happened in the token vs twin match on stream? the fucking twitch chat is full of football fags talking about sportball or some shit that isn't MTG
>>44674596
It's already 30 bucks.
>>44674596
Modern prices are so retarded right now. As a broke student my heart cries everytime something spikes, which happens a lot right now
>>44674636
I have my Pre-Release Promo. Nobody wanted it before now everyone on my LGS want to buy it.
I've never been so happy in my entire life lulz.
>>44674659
Why not just chord for Forge Tenders? Some other tech is Wrap in Vigor
>>44674663
tokens won the first match, just overwhelmed him with tokens
oh also gideon secret tech
>>44672887
Underrated post.
>>44674609
You just have to race. Don't have time to try and setup your tokens to be bigger. Just have to go full aggro. It's not a matter of if they can hit tron but a matter of when. And when they do just pray that they don't drop an Ugin and wipe the board for 0.
>>44674690
I do, but Forge Tenders don't help against Damnation(yes that gets played in my area amongst Junk/Abzan decks) or an O-Stone activation.
TRON BEST
>>44674786
Yeah, Dauntless Escort is your way to go. As for O.Stone and Ugin I personally go for Revokers
Why is Magic spilling into my second stream?
>>44674874
Cockborne
>>44674663
Is your dog OK?
>>44674867
I actually have some time against Ugin and O-stone but when they do blow up it blows up hard. Funnily enough there's no RG Tron in my area but there is some Mono U Tron(I even play U Tron myself) so there's usually not a super fast Ugin all the time.
>>44672710
It doesn't show each decks win percentage against other decks when you click on a deck any more
>>44674963
Ahhh damn, sorry dude tried to help.
>>44674925
yeah, a stray cat was trying to eat his food. he wont bite anything alive (old bird dog) so he was just barking at it really loud while it ignored him. I slapped it with a broom and ran it off.
>>44675073
faggot dog
>>44675114
ur a faget
>>44674609
These guys got mad at me when I ran 4 IoK and 4 Thoughtsieze. They made me use 3 of each.
At least I can sell an IoK now.
Anyway I knocked off Ugin twice with TS. At the time I had just bought and was testing Surgical Extraction so I removed it from the opponent's deck and barely managed to squeeze out two wins out of 6 games. No sideboard being used by either side.
>>44674930
What a coincidence I also play U Tron. My decks are Elves, U Tron and Stompy. My meta has 2 RG Tron players, 2 Bloom players and a lot of fair decks like Grixis and BGx. I get to see a lot of pyroclasm, and BGx tries to board in Damnation which seldom shows up, and they get blown up by Chameleon Colossus
Welp, B/W Tokens just went 9-0
Time to buy some Bitterblossoms.
>>44675225
You must enjoy losing
B/W tokens 9-0
>>44675262
Not really, I just won a PR pass the other week, and have been consistently winning top 3. Elves is great
>>44675254
was he even running blossom? i didnt see his list but I didn't see him play it either
>>44675318
He did in the first game
>>44675318
it was the main reason he won game 1 i feel like
>>44675332
oh, must've missed it.
>>44675318
Yep, won him a game too in previous feature match
Coming home from my LGS' Montly Modern.
48 people, went 7-1 with Boros Burn splashing Black and Green.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/30-08-15-boros-burn/
2-0 vs BW Eldrazi
0-2 vs Affinity
2-1 vs Naya Zoo
2-1 vs BW Tokens
2-1 vs MB Eldrazi
T8 2-0 vs Affinity
T4 2-1 vs Naya Burn
T2 2-0 vs UR Twin
The Eldrazi meme is real, at least 10 people playing different versions of that shit. The BW one is shit but the mono-black one made top 8.
>>44672804
Chrome mox.
>>44672830
I'd say glimpse but I don't think it is that insane really.
>>44675380
Glimpse will propel Elves. They'll probably shove in Scryb Sprite just for that untap even though it's not en Elf due to the lack of Symbiotes and Quirion Rangers.
>>44675361
Why not run Bump in the Night if youre already splashing black?
>>44675225
I play U Tron, Elves, Ad Nauseam, BW Tokens, Protean Hulk combo and halfway building Wilt Leaf Abzan. I dunno something about amusing tier 2 decks just appeal to me. That and building decks that don't absolutely need Scalding Tarns, well with the exception of the Hulk deck but that's under reconstruction and has some proxies in it which is fine for casual play.
Oddly enough I don't face much Pyroclasms, mostly Anger of the Gods so that one extra turn can usually lead me to doing dumb things like Nettle+Heritage shenanigans into llanowars/mystics into a Collected Company and finding an E-Witness+Elf and then grabbing CoCo and still having just enough mana to cast it again somewhere around turn 2. Did this to my friend who plays Affinity and he's laughing and all bananas saying "Usually i'm the one to empty my hand first."
If tokens keeps wining tomorrow Auriok Champion will be $50 by the end of the day.
A $50 Soul Sister.
What a wonderful time to be alive.
>>44675494
You can run mires instead of tarns in the bubble hulk deck, changes almost nothing
>>44675529
Isn't it $50 already? I know foils are $100
>>44675494
Yeah I like playing tier 2 decks. Most of the time they hold their own and have a pretty high chance of winning small tournaments, although in big tournies its usually a dice roll that you don't face a bad matchup and just accept it. Plus, tier 2 deck strategies are way more unique and fun than the tier 1 pillars have. They're funky, cool and fun
You run E.Witness? I'm having a hard time shoving her in my list. I run Gwb, splash white for forge tenders and black for Shaman of the Packs. I run 4 Dwynen Elites as they are value and enable broken turn 2s with turn 1 Heritage Druid. My toolbox critters are Spellskite, and depending on the meta, either MD burrenton, rec sage or revoker.
I don't like the affinity matchup desu. Game 1 is usually mine, but when those whipflares come in, and I don't have a chord or a Fracturing gust, I just fold
I'm getting tired of losing matches because of a single artifact hate sideboard card.
What is a easy to pilot control or combo deck that I could play when getting frustrated with affinity?
>Cedric Phillips playing Twin
>>44675531
Yeah I probably could. Just lazy since they're in my Standard deck atm which i'm not playing for a while anyway since people caught wise to my trick in RG Landfall of a Valakut Predator that goes in unblocked then ends up as a 10/10 and double strikes before damage.
>>44675638
Ad Nauseam
>>44675361
>BW Eldrazi
>>44675638
Grix twin or grix control.
Is there some way to abuse this? It's pretty neat.
Can I get the playmat with just the wolves?
>>44675683
>JtMS's ultimate is pretty brutal!
>How can we bring an effect like that into Standard?
>I know! Lets make it target YOU!
>>44674534
Notthing beats Tron so why even care.
If you beat Twin, Junxs and Aggros you can forfeir the Tron match and still top 8 the same way Tron forfeits the Burn match and still top 8s.
>>44675683
Relic turn 1, relix self Lab Maniac turn 3, this turn 4, into gitaxian probe to win
>>44673743
How do you deal with it? Say I have access to all colors and they are going off turn 2 on the play.
>>44675683
I want to crack a Tormod's crypt and then transfer control of that creature spell to my opponent while it is on the stack.
I don't know if I can though, and it would likely be too awkward and impractical to be useful.
Not really Modern related but what were they thinking when they printed Time Walk?
1U for a whole extra turn? What the fuck lol
>>44674676
>I have my Pre-Release Promo. Nobody wanted it
Really? I sold that shit for $80 the very same day.
>>44675797
Cards weren't that good back then, it didn't do nearly as much
>>44675797
It's early design MtG. Lots of TCGs suffer through that until now so it's no surprise at all
>>44675578
My list is still a Gw list but i'm considering switching or adding in black. I'm at a constant war between Visionaries and Dwynen's Elite as to how many and what ratio I should have between the decks and whatnot. I do maindeck Rec Sage and Spellskite as well, seems like there's always a live target somewhere.
Against Affinity my only real problem is really just the flyers or an Inkmoth with cranial plating game 1. Game 2 i got Kataki, an extra copy of Rec Sage, Beast Within and Fracturing Gust. This is anecdotal but personally for me overall the one advantage i've found against Affinity game 1 is that you mulligan less hands on average.
>>44674475
Now that is neat.
>>44675826
They also cost too little so we needed to bump everything to six cost to balance it out.
>>44675797
>oh no, he gets to draw a card and attack with his craw wurm again!
it really wasn't that bad back then.
>>44675729
>Notthing beats Tron
Tron beats Tron anon.
>>44674475
Sick fucking math d00d
What was he playing against? Infect family senpai we pumpin
>>44675904
I think it was naya company, can't remember 100%
>>44675931
>>44675904
either that or abzan company
>>44675842
I run 3x Visionary and 4x Dwynen's Elite. The Elite just gives you pure value, even if you don't CoCo into nuts, casting multiple Elites or getting it through CoCo is really good, even better if you're going the beatdown route.
I run 2x Shaman of the Pack MD and usually board out at least 1 depending on the matchup. That thing just steals games where you hardcast Shaman of the Pack and chord into another; its scummy. It also gives you a way out vs decks that pack Worship.
Vs Affinity I board in Kataki, RecSages, Fracturing Gusts and Burrenton Forge Tenders. The manlands have proven to be troublesome time and time again, especially inkmoth and Playing. They just attack you from multiple angles game 2, from the threat of being whipflared, to Inkmoth+Plating that it's hard to keep up unless Chord comes out or you draw into hate
>>44675439
Because I want to beat Naya Burn and Affinity and that means not fetching for shocks other than Sacred G1 and not shocking for shocks other than Sacred G2-3 unless absolutely necessary.
It's worked so far, people keep bolting themselves to cast Atarka's Command and it's not worth it against anyone but Jund/Junk.
>>44675941
I couldn't have ben Abzan, that deck can't lose to infect.
>>44675571
$25-$31 but that foil price predicts another victory for israel.
>>44675638
>control
This is Modern, nigger.
>>44676065
EBIN XD
>>44675826
That's actually not it. You could end up with fast turn 2 kills(some old cases of turn 1 kills too) as well because very very very old mulligan rules allowed you to keep on doing a mulligan if you had no lands or all lands.
It was all entirely possible to get a Ball of Lightning, cast Blood Lust on it then Berserk it in the attack step on turn 2.
Posting infect list since everyone seems to play it, I've been tweaking it a bit so I want some advice based on anecdotes, ask about any decisions too
>Main
4 Elf
4 Hierarch
4 Agent
4 Vines
4 Swell
2 Mutagenic
3 Become Immense
1 Rancor
2 Defiance
2 Skite
2 Visions
4 Probe
1 Image
2 Apostle's
1 Dismember
>Lands
2 Pendelhaven
2 Breeding Pool
1 Temple Garden
1 Dryad Arbor
2 Forest
4 Foothills
4 Heath
4 Nexus
>Sideboard
2 Stony Silence
2 Image
2 Relic
2 Spell Pierce
2 Dispel
2 Skite
3 Claim
I also have some might of old krosas, 2 more visons, another blessing, distortion strike, 1 more defiance, 2 more growth, and 3 monastery sieges to fiddle around with in the deck
>>44676035
That foil price is mostly due to it actually being played in Vintage. It's always there as a 1 or 2 of.
>>44676027
It was abzan.
Loosing like the spirit-loving heretic faggots they are.
>>44675571
its $30
and yeah foils are $100
>>44675638
>I'm getting tired of losing matches because of a single artifact hate sideboard card.
>>44676206
What are you even trying to say?
How does this deal with Stony Silence in any way?
>>44675757
spell snare the summer bloom, or nature's claim the amulet of vigor in the upkeep
>>44676228
I'm trying to say that I didn't bother to read the thread, and that most cards that boardwipe artifacts are sorceries.
>>44676296
Spell Pierce pretty much does the same job. Wail is too narrow for Affinity.
>>44675903
No, Tron loses to Tron
What deck was Josh Cho using?
>>44675969
Don't be afraid of Whipflare too much, most lists usually only run 2. I actually have Bow of Nylea in my sideboard as well because nobody boards in enchantment/artifact hate against Elves. Sometimes I hold onto Beast Within, play Dismember or wait to Chord up Kataki once they've tapped out for everything so they can't react with a Galvanic Blast on it. It's not easy but you've got good plans against them after sideboarding. I actually run a singleton copy(it's either a singleton copy or 2, can't remember right now) of Stirring Wildwood to block most Inkmoth Nexus attacks and to tap for G/W. I have considered running Dwynen Gilt Leaf Daen just because she's an Elf lord, survives Anger/Pyro and has reach but the 4cmc doesn't allow her to be CoCo'd at all.
>>44676349
FUCK
>>44676330
It really does. There are few counters to stony silence.
>>44676423
In my opinion Dwynen isn't really cut out for the deck. For one she costs 4 so CoCo can't hit her, not to mention the stock elves list is tight barring Visionary vs Elite numbers and silver bullets.
As for Bow of Nylea, Interesting as fuck tech, will probably try too
>>44676529
Bow of Nylea hits the Inkmoth and is great against Burn. Also any games that go long and you start dropping +1/+1 counters, gaining 3 life or just restocking your library again. Also all your attacking dudes have deathtouch so what do you care if your Elvish Mystic trades with a bigger threat?
>>44676663
How many Bows do you have in the SB?
This is my current setup
2x Kitchen Finks
2x Dismember
2x Beast Within
2x Burrenton Forge Tender
2x Reclamation Sage
1x Spellskite
1x Kataki, War's Wage
1x Fracturing Gust
1x Chameleon Colossus
1x Phyrexian Revoker
>>44676851
Just a singleton.
So what do you guys think of Modern Death and Taxes? Like Eldrazi, it's putting up consistent results on MTGO and several lists have shifted to splashing black for discard and Dark Confidant. Anyone playing that deck?
Newfag here. Where are you guys watching the games at?
>>44677111
Its still highly meta dependent. However, the GW Hatebears variant has more game 2bh
>>44677169
Twitch
>>44677111
I think it's pretty good. The deck shits all over Tron like it's its job. It also has a few decent matchups. Leonin Arbiter is really a star in this deck
>>44677111
What are its matchups against tron?
>>44677111
I think that I really like the feeling of CoCoing or Chording for Orzhov Pontiff against it.
Last I heard niggas was having sex with the same sex
I show no love to homo thugs
I want to make EDH combos a thing in Modern because I'm a flamboyant faggot and have already had success with Sharuum Steel in Legacy.
What would be the best build for shit like Mike & Trike or Boonweaver+Blasting Station?
>>44677767
Just do Twin like every other flaming Izzet faggot.
>>44677715
Go home you are drunk.
>>44677879
I'm the respectable kind of faggot, not the kind that goes around spreading aids like twin players.
>>44677715
Do you break bread with the enemy?
>>44677715
What does DMX play? Burn? Zoo?
>>44675669
I had no problem trading away my wasteland stranglers and oblivion sowers a couple weeks ago. The deck has an absolutely unwinnable matchup against burn. I had some retard at FNM say something like, "How is a turn 3 5/8 not great?" as if burn, twin, or affinity cares about a 5/8 on the turn before they kill you. I can't wait for this stupid meme deck to die off so Eye of Ugin can return to the price it should be at, not 30 bucks a pop.
>>44678156
Werewolf tribal and he growls every time they flip
>>44672442
I think Esper is better nowadays.
>>44678273
>so Eye of Ugin can return to the price it should be at, not 30 bucks a pop.
Lol, shit never goes back down once it's spiked.
Fist of Suns is still $4 when it's evident to everyone it wasn't worth even the $0.25 it was worth before it got scalped.
>>44675683
Dredge round 2, electric boogaloo
>>44678273
>How is a turn 3 5/8 not great?
THANKS FOR THE SEARING BLAZE TARGET
>>44678478
I'm not saying it won't be higher, but there are literally packs of MM2 still on shelves everywhere. The card is probably closer to 8 and I fully expect it to return to that after a month or so.
>>44678505
Pretty much. There's a couple cute things you can do like vampiric link an eidolon or process a rift bolt, but the only way that works is if they don't know the deck they're playing against.
>>44672895
Because it's easy to get stupid broken instant win hands with Urabrask and some stupid fatty. Living End can't really put together as degenerate a combo.
>>44677240
Very good. It has anti deck searching shit to fuckup scrying and expedition map and Talia even stops the natural turn 3 no search Karn before they start ghost quartering their shit.
Heck half the deck's appeal is it's good against Tron.
>>44677111
i'm surprised the jews haven't caught on yet. arbiter is literally a 4-of in all lists. any reasons it's still so cheap?
im new to magic, me and a buddy have been thinking of going in on a booster for the fun of it, i like ramp decks for green, any particular set that has good cards for this?
>>44678911
Trying to incite a buyout I see
>>44674475
it was Todd Anderson, not Taylor.
>>44678931
1. Read OP
2. Learn formats
3. Get good
4. Don't buy wizards products
>>44678962
>inciting a buyout on /tg/
Ok
No really this place is shit at mtgfinance usually. Remember Phyrexian Crusader?
>>44677111
I played the deck back when pod was a thing. I got run over by goyfs more often than not, and your mana denial ain't that good.
>>44673608
I suppose void snare would be easier to pull off since my only nonartifact white source is cloudcrest lake, so either way I'm cutting myself one mana to go off on
Fucking $2-4 adarkar wastes, allied pain land reprint when
>>44678931
cracking boxes is a waste of money. buy booster boxes to draft with friends, not to chase cards. if you like ramp decks check out the deck called valakut, or maybe tooth and nail.
>>44679048
im mostly doing it for the experience of opening packs with a friend while growing my nonexistent collection, figured since im probably going to do it anyway i might as well ask about a set that could have some cool ramp type cards
>>44679013
Phyrexian Crusader was shit from the start. Its a 3cmc pro red and white 2/2 black Zombie Knight that died to black removal or got countered by delver players.
>>44672555
I agree, cycling lands would be amazing.
-RUG Loam memester
>>44679091
they guy from >>44679048 is right. Dont make the same mistake ppl do when getting into the game.
Buy packs and draft them. You will learn to play the limited format and at the same time, start your collection. Sometimes you will get shitty rares that you will regret having in your shoebox.
>>44679091
I'm just speaking from personal experience because I regret blowing a few hundred on boxes/boosters when I got into the game. Return to ravnica is recent enough that a box shouldn't be crazy expensive and has some good stuff you might like.
>>44679309
>Oh boy a foil Deathrite Shaman, this seems like it'd be great in modern!
Any suggestions? (Aside from running a less shit archetype)
>>44679381
I'd still be hyped for a foil DRS, it's like $50. shit sees legacy play.
>>44679622
>No Professor Sycamore
Shit deck
>>44679757 You're right, but for the wrong reasons.
Why are you not playing pauper? My LGS had an experimental pauper tournament and about 10 people showed up. 3 delver decks sure, but it was pretty diverse. I played kilnfiend.dec.
>>44679843
>Not playing combo elves
Why do people always draft BFZ online when you have access to every set?
>>44679381
My friend sold one of those like last week
To some GARBAGE ass website that ripped him off, I kept trying to tell him to sell on eBay
>>44679930
Did that really require a new line?
>>44679950
Does it really matter in the long run
I format how I want
>>44679968
Wow
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>>44680162
>getting this mad over post formatting
Consider suicide
>>44680194
>that thumbnail
MAKE SHITPOSTING GREAT AGAIN
Just found my foil onslaught bloodstained mire. How many onslaught flooded strands can I hock it for?
>>44672770
Fellow Loamplayer learning his way through the deck. Im honestly more afraid of md Relics due to the meme decks of today.
>>44680559
3-ish, depending on its condition
If you don't care about the set, it's worth like 6 Khans ones
>>44674609
Tron is way more resilient to discard than people think, if it wasn't then its Jund/Abzan matchup wouldn't be so famously good.
>>44680661
Thanks, I'm aiming for 3. I don't really like the new fetchlands and already have 1 strand. Does 2 stoneforge for 2 onslaught delta's seem fair?
>>44680714
yeah
