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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resurgent-class_Star_Destroyer
>2,915.81 meters[1]
>3,000+ turbolasers and ion cannons[1]
ebin
>>44361530
>you will never be an unimportant courier for a backwater imperial base only to get swept up into bigger things that you have no business being involved in
>>44361576
Go to be Curtis Saxton
>>44361576
>no fighter capacity
>Imps in charge of learning
To the guy last thread wondering about the K-Wing in XWM, it's pretty great for a couple reasons. The primary turret and the turret slot make it a flexible mini-Falcon, the ordinance and SLAM option make for a pretty crazy bomber or missile carrier with more than one shot, and the fact that it has those turret options and no red on its dial makes it extremely friendly to a brand new casual player in a pickup game.
In spite of how derpy I find the actual ship design, it's got a really good niche carved out in the game.
>>44361576
Does each of those guns have a 9001 bajagoogoljoule minimum yield? Gotta puncture the layered neutronium armor on those old Rebel junkers somehow.
>>44361721
I was looking at lists, can an ordnance/turret heavy list with a K and Y wing filled out with Z-95's work?
Does not need to be super competitive, not going to tournaments or anything.
>>44360228
>Go down in a blaze of glory so I can play Poncho, the droid bounty hunter?
The only real question is, why weren't you playing as Poncho Scout Trooper OLL-13 in the first place.
Question: What's stopping an astromech from rebuilding himself into a more robust humanoid form "one piece at a time"? For example, adding a B1's arms at first, then replacing his retractable leg with something like an assassin droid's legs.
>>44361921
memory wipes
>>44361949
Its owners do not want to wipe their friend and are currently unaware it has a compulsion to modify itself.
Do the rebels have anything on par with stormtrooper armor that doesn't look like shit?
>>44362138
>Not liking the Hoth uniforms
>Not liking the Endor commando team look
>Not liking the Alderaanian uniforms from Tantive IV
Get out, pleb.
>>44362236
Yes, and all those are on par with these guys which also look fucking retarded.
Something tells me a Dug Jedi would be...unorthodox.
>>44361688
This is a game I'd love to play.
>>44361688
Sounds familiar.
>>44362269
shit taste confirmed
>>44362138
I think either FFG or Saga had some pics of specforce armor.
>>44361688
>Pizza delivery guy running late because the speeder broke down
>Has to deliver 700 pizzas to Jabba's sail barge
>Gets there right after Luke & Co kill everyone
>Rescues Boba Fett
>Zaniness ensues
>>44362138
>>44361921
Astromech and humanoid droid limbs aren't exactly interchangeable. It'd be easier to back itself up and download itself into a new body than to switch out limbs from a B1 onto an astromech body.
>>44362412
Source? That armor looks amazing.
>>44362269
>>44362236
Just get rid of the helmets, and I'd be perfectly happy with those designs.
>>44362477
Rebellion comics. Also appeared in SW: Galaxies.
>>44362605
So they're canon?!
Nice.
Calling it now: Rey is Luke's lesbian clone (whoever found Anakin's lightsaber found Luke's severed hand, too); the ST is about her relationship with Phasmaand the end of the Skywalker line; Kylo is a Solo and sacrifices himself to kill Snoke.
>>44362633
Nope. Both of those are Legends sources.
>>44362668
No anon, Rey is the adopted daughter of Ahsoka and Luke after some Ara ara
>>44362633
Canon? Rebellion, http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Rebellion_%28comics%29 not Rebels. Still, would be pretty neat to see those in new canon.
>>44362706
>>44362682
Damn. Oh well.
>>44361576
>3000
What the fuck
>>44362269
Scifi Nazi helms and chestplates don't look retarded, anon.
>>44361576
>no quad lasers or point defense
WHELP
>>44363012
Sci fi writers aren't engineers, anon. They're engineering dropouts.
>>44363263
i think 3000 turbo lasers is less of a product of a drop out and more likely the product of an idle, pot induced "what could be" idle thought
>>44362270
I'd dig it.
>>44362574
the helmets are what makes them unique, though
>>44362693
I'd be down for that 200% if we can't have mara jade
>>44363559
What Forms would they use though?
>>44362693
Wouldn't she have some weird head things and darker skin, though?
>>44363637
Who cares? They let in a bunch of weird alien assholes into the Jedi, there's got to be some variable forms for variable physiology.
>>44363637
feet saber
>>44362574
There is nothing wrong with the helmets.
>>44363777
Trips confirm.
>>44363263
Turbo lasers and ion cannons do jackshit to protect from fighters is basic star wars knowledge. Not engineering. If the writer doesn't know about the franchise he's writing for, then he's an incompetent.
>>44363967
Explains why the Finalizer could only barely shoot down that TIE while it managed to fuck up quite a bit of it's hull.
>>44364028
I almost bought that as their shields being down but those heavyly armoured turrets just splating was really odd. I guess the SF tie might be using those high power cells but still.
I almost feel like the FFG raider should just be canonised as it fills the role of an actual destroyer so well.
>>44364112
Things get fucked up when you don't have shields. Looks like they had missile-turrets for anti-fighter defense, though. That's bound to fuck someone up, and they did.
>>44364112
The FFG Raider is pretty boss as a small capital ship.
>>44364028
It was firing missiles at it, which are not in the official stats, and the one that hit exploded away from the body.
They also manually disabled the cannons on the ship, which weren't 3,000.
Those stats are "the gozanti is 30 meters long" levels of fucked.
>>44361576
Don't worry, it'll be retconned and changed to something more realistic, and then the canon will eventually be reset bla bla bla.
>>44361530
The Force Awakens questionsWho were Rey's parents? Luke and someone else?Supreme Leader Snoke? My theory is the projection isn't what he really looks likeIs Finn force sensitive?
>>44364287
Maybe.
Probably.
I hope so.
>>44364287
Finn can't use the force,it's why he had to sit the duel out while the proper force users did everything.Rey is Luke and Leia's daughter. Hand and Luke finally shared.Supreme Leader has a very high chance of being an emperor clone in the same vein as the silly novels.
>>44363012
Man, that would've been something. They fly in and find the SKB studded with point defense apertures. Suddenly a thousand black glossy eyes focus in and bzzzrt.
>>44364344
it's also whyhis part of the duel was actually good. They even used the cigarette lighter bit in a cute way.
>>44364287All but confirmed when Disney took down that game video.Probably Plagueis.Probably not.
>>44364344
>Finn can't use the force,
Midichlorians confirmed. Franchise ruined. Burn down Disney. Allahu ackbar.
>>44364423>All but confirmed when Disney took down that game video.You mean that video where Ren gets hit with a barrel and goes "curses" and everyone keeps mishearing it as cousin because they're retards?
>>44363012
Can someone explain to me where the hell the Y-Wings were when they were doing a bombing run of a planet?
>>44364344
>Second spoiler
Absolutely disgusting
>>44364423Plagius makes sense. I also kind of hope it's Maul
>>44364658
only nerds remember letters that aren't X
Based Visual dictionary.
>>44364658
Resistance =/= Republic. All they could sneak to them were X-Wings. It's like asking why an Anericsn funded "resistance" would have hand-me-down AR-15s and Jeeps but not Bradleys
>>44364287We just don't know. Her being his daughter doesn't really make sense. But it being left as a mystery kind of implies that it will be meaningful when it's revealed. If it's not a twist then why keep it a mystery? I kind of think that it's just an Abrams marketing thing. He did a talk, I think it was a ted talk, about mysteries and how they're great tool to get people's interest. So I wouldn't put it past him to make her parentage a mystery purely to give us something to speculate about, even though it's actually not important.
I kind of assume that he isn't that big, but other than that, there's not really anything to use as a base for further speculation.
No real reason to think so.
>>44364658
probably retired mate, though I would love to see some resistance jockeys bust out some "museum" pieces
>>44364658
You know how the US is replacing all their bombers and fighters with multirole starfighters?
Resistance did just that.
I'm still weirded out by this "resistance" having the latest model of x-wing in spades. No older ships in their fleet whatsoever.
>>44364658
Because they wanted to start small with everything and not have information overload that your average viewer wouldn't be able to handle. So they mostly kept it to just the Falcon, X-Wings and a couple different TIEs for the stuff you get a real look at in TFA.
>>44364658
Possibly retired and replaced by B-wings off-screen. One of the Resistance ships is an ugly with parts from a B-wing "Mark II." Still, it's pretty odd that nobody bothered sending the Resistance any attackers or strike fighters.
>>44364699
ah yes the great country of Anerics
>>44364721
multi-role jet fighters*
>>44364720
plenty of real life vehicles had service lives of over 30 years.
>>44364742
And your phone doesn't ever fuck up your typing?
>>44364764
The Y-Wing was around that old when Endor happened, anon. 60 is pushing it a little.
>>44364658
Because the base they launched their assault from didn't have any, and there wasn't time to get any from elsewhere.
Okay, so my The Force Awakens wishlist for X-Wing:
Some Spoilers...TIE/sf Expansion, and either give that a turret firing arc,or a Tech upgrade that's essentially a small-ship Anti-Pursuit laser, given Poe's secret X-Wing blaster
>>44364699
>>44364721
>>44364740Wiki says different. The T-70 is actually not a brand-spankin' new model, but a few models behind. The Republic apparently uses T-85s, whatever those are, and gives the Resistance its old tech.Probably going to see them getting newer ships in the later movies, since now the Resistance might be all they have.
>>44364787
The YT-1300 is an early clone wars era freighter, over a hundred years old. Doesn't stop it, why would it stop anything else in star wars land.
>>44364811
How many models did they burn through in thirty years?
If anything, it should be more like
t-65
t-65a
t-65-ig
and keep adding new letters and numbers for the different variants as the electronics and other shit get updated. t-70 implies it's a whole new model, which shouldn't have happened more than once in the time period. Unless the t-70 underperformed to sub-t-65 levels of garbage and forced them to commision a new model early. Which means the resistance is literally getting garbage.
>>44364811
>The Republic apparently uses T-85s
Fingers crossed for StealthX. Or at least something with a less ugly s-foil design.
>>44364827
The Falcon was a one-of-a-kind custom job that was heavily modified over the years. Even then, it was still a rustbucket by the OT era. Refitting and upgrading a galaxy's worth of Y-wings takes a hell of a lot more money, time, and resources than keeping an old freighter in service. After Endor, it was probably more cost-effective to replace the Y-wing completely than to pour money into keeping the old girl competitive.
>>44364701
Yup, JJ Abrahms and the Mystery Box, same old same old.I'm actually rooting for Mama Phasma, related to Luke or not.
>>44364811
So we're going to see some RZ-5s and BTL-M6s?
>>44361530
TFA spoilersI know it became a simple fact screeched by the howler monkeys of the Internet, but how do you actually feel about Han Solo's death?
>>44364951
My reasoning is more "the resistance is a bunch of faggots, why do they have top of the line shit?" Heck, I would have been happy just with them having a few T-65s mixed in with their T-70s.
>>44364906
Model designations are not purely sequential in practice, prototypes, trainers or weird/failed designs that got designations can cause skips
Between the start of the unified designation system in 1962 and the introduction of the F-16 in 1978 the United States got through 16 numbers in 16 years.
T-65 to T-85 in 30 is perfectly reasonable. And the T-70 is clearly a new spaceframe with different wings, a different hull and different engines. It just has the same basic shape.
>>44365068
It was okayHe misplaced his faith on his son, who backstabbed him like the whiny little shit that he is.
>be a stormtrooper
>trained in extreme weather ops
>life pretty good
>except the helmets
>can't see out of the helmets
>getting ready to go on a new extreme cold mission
>"oh before we begin, we'd like to introduce the new and improved snowtrooper armor"
>oh boy so excited
>maybe get to be able to see better
>handed your helmet
>uh
>put it on
>mfw
>>44365068
A lot of people like to shit on it but I actually thought it was handled pretty well
>>44365068it was alright. Han and Ben were both pretty well handled through the whole movie. Though I am fucking pissed it was Rey who hugged Leia afterwards instead of Chewie. Like, bitch, you knew him for ONE DAY.
>>44365111
Seconded. It felt genuine. Which is good because I heard Ford didn't even want to do this movie
>>44365090
It's more that they burned through three models on a ship that was top of the line. With the new republic probably splurging on new infrastructure after taking over.
I have a hard time believing they went "let's make a new better fighter than this fighter that outperforms everything" made it and then went "lol, let's make a new fighter that out performs this new fighter that outperfoms the fighter that outperformed everything" AGAIN! In the space of 30 years. While rebuilding THOUSANDS of systems.
>>44365068
Generally, it was okay, even good. I think it would berather awkward for him to stay in the finale, as he wouldn't fit in anywhere in the dynamic of Rey/Finn/Ren fight. Other than that, I must admit that I haven't found the moment very emotional, because seriously, who'd believe that the villain of all the time until then would now suddenly jump ship? IMO that Han would die was painfully obvious from the moment he stepped on that narrow catwalk thing,but other than that, I liked this scene.
>>44364906
Didn't look or fly like garbage.
If anything, it looks like the X-Wing the Republic would produce when they could put things together in real, actual production factories with Republic-scale resources instead of secret bases with scrap and junk.
I just got my Return to Hoth stuff for Imperial Assault.Yippee!
I'm looking forward to running my second campaign. Hopefully some of the players try out new heroes, either from Twin Shadows or Return to Hoth.
>>44365172
Two new designs in 30 years is entirely reasonable. There is plenty of real life precedent for starting to design the next generation before you even finish producing the new one. Europe still went ahead with producing end of WW2 designs despite their ruined countries. And just like post WW2 Europe had the USSR to worry about the New Republic had the remnants of the Empire.
In the old EU the E wing was only 4-5 years after Endor so its hardly the first time this has happened in Star Wars either.
>>44365154
In an interview he was asked that and pointed out he could have absolutely said no if he wanted. He's rich and has no contractual obligations, he could have said no. I think he wanted to see Han's story end and was satisfied enough with the script to sign on.
>>44365239
You're right, I guess. Seeing so many old as fuck models still active in real life kind of fucked with my perception.
>>44365231
How's a pilot actually supposed to use their skill in FFG star wars? I know you can house rule it, But with all the public testing and the amount of thought they put into things, it's weird that the game doesn't seem to model pilot skill or ship agility at all. Just armor vs weapons.
>>44361530
>Older Star Wars Tabletop (Including d6 and d20/Saga)
Are you guys ever going to put any of the actual d20 stuff up? At least take that part off if you're just doing saga. d20 and Saga reference two different systems, albeit both by WotC
>>44365231
There was one piece I wasn't able to get yet, actually. My LGS didn't order enough copies of the Leia ally pack, so I'm still waiting for that. But I really like the Echo Base Troopers. I think the elite version can compete with Wookiee Warriors for a spot in Rebel squads.
So I reckon I'm getting Force and Destiny tomorrow, it's my first Star Wars RPG but I'm pretty hyped for it. I know the books use special die, but that there's also a conversion guide in the book if you don't want to shell out the cash.
However, I'm also seeing references to little "dark side pips" on several faces of the die. Looking at the packaged die FFG sell, I can't see any of these pips of passionate goodness, is this just a mistake? Can I order a bag that says "Edge of the Empire" and not worry about the dark side pip thing?
>>44365514
It's the little black circles on the white d12.
>>44365514
There should be a force die in the general kit, since you have to roll it for destiny at the start of a game session of non-FnD games too.
>>44365537
>>44365544
Ah excellent, I thought it was on all die for some reason. I don't know their names or anything, thanks for the speedy responses guys.
>>44365068
It was inevitable. Remember Lucas wanted this to happen during Jedi but chickened out. Look how similar the set up was here.
>>44365502
A280 Master Race
>>44365575
Everyone else wanted it to happen, but Lucas wanted a happy ending for the kids (and also toy sales.) Not that I can imagine how a dark ending to Jedi would work out, I like how it was a happy ending, I just didn't like that he tried marketing teddy bears as a part of that package.
>>44362412
Further proves that the Rebel Alliance are basically ISIS in space.
>>44365514
If you dont want to shell out money for dice, you can use any of the online dice rollers, or the dice roller phone app
I do recommend buying at least two sets of dice, thats all you'll ever need really
>>44365590
I know it would be stupid to have them continue carrying it around after 30 years, but I much preferred that gun to the Resistance's beat up rusty G36 knockoff.
>>44364811
Oh, another kind of but not really spoilery want:Nien Nunb for T-70 pilot.
>>44364685
That's some fuckin' good stuff. This is how to sci-fi technology
>>44365657
Nah, they're more like space Hamas or some other more politically oriented terrorist group. ISIS in particular has some real crazy religious shit going on, besides just 'fuck the west, praise allah'.
>>44365672
People carry guns literally over 100 years old in real life.
>>44365590
It's a pretty good weapon in Imperial Assault campaign mode. It rolls blue/green for attack and has a passive +1 accuracy, which means it has pretty good range. It's surge abilities are for +2 damage and Pierce 2, so it packs a pretty good punch. And it has 2 modification slots, so you can upgrade it to suit your tastes. I'd probably say there are better weapons, but not more flexible ones. Give it a Marksman Barrel and Underbarrel HH-4 and put it in Loku's hands and it has 9 guaranteed accuracy.
>>44365105
>helmet thing blocks out everything above 5% off your eye line
>can't even look up 'cause of that hard-shell hood in the back
>>44365692
Those guns aren't standard issue anymore, and it stands to reason that if the republic gives the resistance their surplus fighters/aircraft, then they're giving them their surplus small arms as well.
>>44365745
Yes, just pointing out that 30 years shouldn't stop a blaster from existing.
>>44365727
Apparently, its considered the "standard issue" rifle for the Rebel Alliance. Must be a ton of the things that fell out of use. You would figure that would be DC series rifles.
Unless the A280 is older than the DC series
>>44365728
Why snowtrooper need to see, toyvarich? Only shades of white in front of you.
>>44365745
Republic military is probably a lot better funded and equipped than these Resistance fighters fighting their proxy wars.
Spoilers:Well, WAS a lot better. If even one of those planets held the Republic's standing fleet or army, the Resistance with their surplus military tech might be all they have left. Pretty sure they mentioned that the attack would fuck up the Republic's armada as well, so the Resistance might really be the last men standing with little support from the Republic.
>>44365845I recall someone telling general Leia that they lost "the fleet" during the star-killer base briefing. Not sure if they meant another Resistance fleet of surplus X-wings, or the New Republic's fleet.
>>44365417
Ultimately, it's because they started with Edge of the Empire. This made them focus more on being in a freighter side of things. So it didn't make as much sense to be doing crazy maneuvers and there was the extra Hull to compensate.
They sort of balanced this with the squadron rules, but ultimately, a pilot in a starfighter can't really hold out much on his own without a fuckton of the really good piloting talents and thinking outside the box. Basically, treat the game as you normally would with personal-scale combat, don't assume the maneuvers and actions in the book are the only ones available to you, try different things to put the piloting skill to use like flying at/in-between a squadron of TIEs to try and make them crash into each other/the environment.
>>44362236
Third guy on the left has the helmet on backwards
>>44365976that would probably be the sector fleet; remember how the NR decentralized that stuff?
>>44365976I don't know, man, what other explosion was going on that might have destroyed their fleet? Could have been that their own ships were off at one of those Republic worlds when the weapon hit home.But they did lose a lot of X-Wings, these TIEs don't look like flying garbage this time. How are they going to get reinforcements? They're back to how the Rebellion was at Yavin: some ships and a handful of fighters. I hope we start seeing them bring in some surviving Republic tech. I think it's safe to say the Resistance can come out of fighting in the shadows now with such an overt attack by the First Order.
>>44366037
Err - no - look at it again.
you know what's a fic that somebody needs to write?Finn wants to get at it with rey, but the problem is that neither of them have any clue what to do, being as one was raised from birth for ALL WAR ALL 24/7 and the other was literally living alone in the desert with no friends or people that she trusts for her whole life
so finn goes to bro dameron and poe has to give him The Talk AND tips at the same time.
it'd be hilarious
Happy Life Day or Life Day Eve, /swg/.
>>44366137
>one was raised from birth for ALL WAR ALL 24/7
Did you watch the movie? Hewas a fucking janitor that got conscripted, it's why he couldn't handle his deployment.
>>44366137What if the stormtrooper that dies at the beginning of the movie was Finn's gf?
>>44366168
Happy Life Day anon!
>>44361848
Should be fine.
>>44363669
>Wouldn't she have some weird head things and darker skin, though?
Adopted daughter
>>44366177well, sort of. he was raised as a stormtrooper along with the others, he just sucked so they made him a janitor until they needed extra dudes, at which point they threw him back into a line unit
>>44366191
Even Thrawn
...
tolerates Life Day!
>cant play XWing
>only outlet is to watch other people have fun
:(
https://youtu.be/STpqDELA_MU?list=PL7atuZxmT956cWFGxqSyRdn6GWhBxiAwE
>>44366068I don't know, As retarded as the Republic is, even they wouldn't be dumb enough to concentrate their entire military, government, and industrial centers in the same system. I imagine there are other forces off screen that are just fine. After all, Mon Cala/Dac is part of the republic and presumably they still have their shipyards. If so, it'll be no problem for them to start cranking out new warships and the like, leaving our heroes in a much better position than at Yavin.
Plus, given that we never see more than a handful of star destroyers, what if the First Order is actually unable to press their advantage with starkiller base destroyed. Imagine all the time, resources, and manpower that went into building that base that weren't devoted to starship or other production.
>>44366270
Vassal, brah
>>44363669
>They let in a bunch of weird alien assholes into the Jedi, there's got to be some variable forms for variable physiology
Harch jedi forms for 6 sabers is yes?
>>44366177I think they might be multiple tasks. He's noted in backstory as being a talented trooper, model material, even if he was just on basic trooper duty, hence his unfamiliarity with turrets and ships and stuff. Might be where they're getting their Special Forces.Though they also mentioned they might be using clones for others, with the officer really pulling for natural born humans over clones, contending that they're just as reliable.
>>44366213
>"The force runs strong in my family..."
>"Also the adopted ones for some reason."
>>44365188
>>44365149
I disagree!I do not actually disagree. But I highly doubt that killing his father has actually strengthened Ben's resolve to stay dark. It's probably only going to make him more conflicted in the long run.
>>44365601
You can have some sad stuff but a happy ending overall.
Daily reminder that Lucas wanted to have the Wookies as the final fight allies, but decided that since Chewie had a laser gun they weren't low tech enough.
>>44365976With the New Republic's size, even demilitarization shouldn't limit them to just one fleet. Having only one NR fleet, and one that small, would be fucking retarded. Logically, "the" fleet destroyed in the film should merely be "a" fleet in the NR's arsenal.
>>44366343They did hit their senate, though. The center for galactic politics just went up in Snoke. The First Order is stated as seeing the New Republic as illegitimate, weak, and unable to hold the galaxy together. Could be that it was only tentatively holding the galaxy together, and without it, and in the face of a the First Order blowing up a whole star system at once, the New Republic could turtle and give in to fear pretty easily.
>>44366137
But would Poegive Finn a very exact demonstration? Because he should.
Merry Christmas, /swg/. Have some Christmas pudding.
>>44366386The replacements for the politicians might pussy out, but I highly doubt that any of the Rebellion old guard would take that shit lying down. You just know that Wedge and all the other Endor survivors are chomping at the bit and ready to kick ass. Incidentally, that gives the writers the perfect opportunity to rehash actually good Legends material and bring back some plot points from the Bacta War.
>>44366446
>the second movie has the protagonists traveling to another resistance cell
>it's commanded by wedge and lando and flies a mix of old X-wings and second-generation Ys
>they're operating from an ancient ISD
we can dream, right?
>>44366406
nah, that's for whenrey suggests that they settle their bromantic tension.
while she watches.
>>44366483
Should it be called the Tiger Claw?
>>44366510
no, but it'spainted red
>>44366182
He said"nobody ever looked at me like that before"to rey. There's an awkward romance bound to follow...
At the beginning of A New Hope, Palpatine metaphorically dissolves the senate with supreme executive power.In the middle of The Force Awakens, Snoke literally dissolves the senate with superior firepower.
>>44366677
>the poetry is so dense, something rhymes in every scene
>>44366677
>metaphorically dissolves
Palps seems like the kind of guy who would literally dissolve senators for shits and giggles. I'm sure the senate was politically dissolved also, but knowing Old Man Sheev, that dissolution would have happened after he had the senate chamber filled with acid.
>>44366177
Ok you stupid motherfuck listen up, real life militaries don't fucking employ JANITORS! Why you ask, drool falling from your mouth, because they have whole piles of idle manpower just lying around that is far more trustworthy to have on a cocking military facility.
Sanitation is an important part of running a base of such magnitude and as such the work will be done by enlisted personnel ie stormtroopers. So stop bringing this up as though it means Finn wasn't raised from birth to be a killing machine, aye aye sir!
I get to wake up early tomorrow to cook a ham I DIDN'T cook today because the directions confused me and anybody I asked for help didn't help.
>Why didn't you cook the ham today?
I literally can't even.
>>44366622
Yeah but he did get friend-zoned pretty hard while I'm n his coma at the end there, we can continue to hope that The Mouse is going for those gay-bucks with Finn/Poe.
>>44364287Snoke is obviously just Luke pulling a fast one on all those other dorks.
>>44366944
it's not hard m8. you literally stick it in the oven for the appropriate length of time by weight at the correct temp.
this is a christmas roast, yeah?
also, merry christmas y'all
>>44366944
I didn't think I'd like BB-8 as much as I did
>>44367007
I have never cooked a ham before in my life. And the instructions for cooking combined with the instructions for glazing meant that the ham would, in fact, spend no time in the oven so I was asking for someone to help me understand what I was supposed to DO!
So hours later, I finally get someone to help. You know, by the time it's too late to cook it. I shoulda just consulted the internet.
>>44367036
Yup, he's an adorable little soccer ball.
>>44367101
ah, glazing. yeah, that's annoying. I can see the problem there.
well, good luck with the cooking
>>44366782
It's Palps. He prefers copper.
>>44367036
They did a fantastic job making him expressive and giving him character. Truly amazing special effects work.
What is the most underrated piece of music from the Star Wars films? Everybody knows the main theme, the Imperial March, Binary Sunset, etc.
My choice:The Asteroid Field. The part starting around 2:15 is fucking amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVycvLAFXmc
man, i really wish they'd devoted like two lines of the opening crawl or something to explaining the current political situation in The Force Awakens era.
So the first order is a separate political and geographical entity from the empire, right?
the majority of the surviving empire's military fucked off into the unknown regions and became the first order.
so what happened to the minor state that the old empire was reduced to? is it still around? does it have industry? does it trade with the new republic for survival? I wanna know more about this nation that has survived under the careful gaze of it's larger new republic neighbor. It could be interesting to see a nation that knows that it did terrible things in the past and is looking to atone. Hell maybe they could be the ones stopping the First order from steamrolling straight through the new republic.(but i doubt it)
Moreover, Kind of fucking lay out that the Resistance is basically a PMC funded by the some new republic senators that's fucking around First order territory to fuck them up. Also point out in the film that the new republic capitol is in hosnian or something when all we've known before is coruscant. Don't just refer to it as the "capitol of the republic" without giving it a name.
>>44366782
I cackled at your description way harder than I care to admit.
>>44364287
I really hoped that she wasn't, simply because I thought it would make her character a little better, but I think she probably is.
>>44367229
you mean the part at 1:15
but yeah, solid choice
>>44367385
>Resistance is basically a PMC
PMC's are mercenaries, the Resistance seems to be a legitimate military.
>>44366995
>Yeah but he did get friend-zoned pretty hard while I'm n his coma at the end there,
... how
>>44367195
I concur. I wasn't expecting to like him (or care, for that matter), but whoever was driving him did good work. The thumbs-up scene is what sold me.
For my X-wing Empire list, would it be better to blob with TIE/fo's or stick with TIE's? I was thinking taking one or two standard TIEs and then filling the rest of the list with TIE/fos and an Interceptor
>>44367436
My money is that she's Ren's long-lost sister. Because JJ is an unoriginal fuck who would rip off the old EU just to shoehorn in the line "Rey, I AM your brother!"
>>44367695
PSA that is being repeated again: JJ is NOT going to be the director for the next two episodes.I say 'next two' because Disney owns Star Wars. Do we REALLY think they'll stop at Star Wars Episode IX:Revamping the Cash Cow?
>>44367385
>so what happened to the minor state that the old empire was reduced to? is it still around? does it have industry? does it trade with the new republic for survival?
The Empire surrendered after their defeat at Jakku. By the time of TFA, its just another seamless part of the Republic, in that it doesn't exist at all.
All the people who refused to surrender after Jakku fucked off to found the First Order.
>Resistance as a PMC
Their a legit funded military to act as Proxy on the Republics behalf. To the outsider, they seem like hired thugs, but its essentially as if the US Govt didn't have a national military, but funded each State to have a militia.
Its designed so that no one can grab power the way Palpatine did, ever again.
Also, the Capitol of the Republic moves around
>>44367229
I love Across the Stars and Battle of the Heroes. Duel of the Fates is awesome, of course, but gets too much attention. I prefer dat tragic mode.
>>44367229
I'd say either Battle of Hoth (the full suite) for a long answer, and the men's chorus at 5:00 in Battle of Endor II when Luke finally breaks and starts beating tar out of Vader.
The long answer is for the fact that the music is tied so well to the events on screen, it's become almost indelible - to this day, I can still hear and see "Ah, our first catch of the day" at just the right moment.
And the short one - Luke circles the drain, and he doesn't even care. So much like his father when someone he loves is threatened.
>>44367475
Almost certain he meant 2:20, since that's the musical phrase I think of when I hear "Star Wars" and "Asteroid Field" in the same sentence.
>>44367754
yeah, but I like the part at 1:15 better
>>44367736
>dat tragic mode
In that case, I think that I'd nominate this for my favorite tragic piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbAI1EPQH6M
Especially the bit where the strings flare up and the only thing it reminds me of is Luke straying over the line. Because the first time I saw that movie, there was the very real fear that Luke would do it. Luke would fall as his father before him.
And in a way, this is the death of Vader that you're hearing, for good or ill.
>>44366226
Yea, but that's because he has studied wookie life day artwork and thus appreciates the meaning behind it.
>>44361721
>K-wing Derpy
My model sits in a place of honor on my desk because I just enjoy looking at it so much.
But what would I know, I am in love withthe Howlrunner and the H-wing
>>44362269
Imp army chestplates are fine, the helmets are not the absolute best but they're good enough.
>>44366931
It's true, but that's not going to stop people from attempting to troll.
I want to run Force of Destiny as a one-shot with my regular gaming group. Is there a way for me to look at some decent prebuilts to work off of? I can't find any in the pastebins.
>>44368285
Are you talking prebuilt adventures, or prebuilt heroes?
>>44368305
Prebuilt heroes, I should have clarified, sorry.
anyone here use tts for xwing?
vassal fags need not apply
>>44367195
>>44367640
He had seven different props. Some were driven, others were nailed to the floor and puppeted. Each had its purpose for expressing character or just moving around in a realistic manner.
Of course, Star Wars hit the nail on the head by essentially just making their child or otherwise annoying characters droids. They sound less annoying, you don't have to deal with cute lines and child-voice because they just beep and boop, they aren't emotive, so act more through motion, manner, and sound than facial expressions, and they're literally pieces of scenery of the setting, being robots that populate it and can act in it in their own way.
>>44367662
TIEs might lack in power, but they carry WHOLE lot of pilots who can synergize with each other. TIE/fo's have some of that, but they come in as a lot more expensive. Mix and match to your taste, but Interceptors aren't pushovers either.
>>44367723
He's still on the team as a consultant, but he was officially just the director of VII.
>>44366931
Finn was a janitor, he says it in the movie. Entering combat left him dazed and unable to engage, the sight of blood terrified him. Someone who has been training his whole life would, at the very least, have his muscle memory do all the shit he's supposed to do, even if poorly.
His reaction is closer to an improperly trained conscript than a well oiled war cog.
>>44368285
F&D Beginner game is up on KAT with some pre-mades, GM's kit as well is kind of useful as its Knight Level play (150xp) and might be some use to you
>>44368313
We could probably come up with something for you here on /swg/. Are you looking for starting characters, or would you be more interested in running your one-shot at "knight level?" Would they all need to be Force-users? If not, what kind of mix would you be looking for?
>>44368368
His backstory says he was actually a promising candidate for the Officer Corps. He was written up for going back to save his buddies on multiple occasions. Sanitation was probably his day job when he wasn't out killing. Some pull guard duty, some run patrols, and some have to fix the shitter and handle the garbage.
I mean, how come he suddenly becomes competent at fighting when he's on foot and fighting? Is he using his conscript training that worked out so well when he was squeamish at the sight of blood? Just highly selective combat competence? Better explanation is just that he's sanitation on one shift, pulled in and out of combat rotation to give others a break.
>>44366931
>>44368368
>Finn was a janitor,
He's on Sanitation, when you're in the military that's pretty much where you send your chronic fuckups to go do KP, burn shit, clean toilets, wash down vehicles and 101 other miserable, non-combat tasks that they can't screw up too much and are otherwise out of your way.
The alternative is you PT the cunts half to death on a regular basis when you've got the NCO's to supervise, but chances are they'll fuck that up too, so they end up in sanitation after that anyway.
I was just sorting the components from Return to Hoth into their proper places and got to counting all of the skirmish mission cards. Basically a year into the game, there are 44 two-player skirmish missions spread between 22 maps, and now we have a pair of four-player missions (1 free-for-all and 1 teams).
>>44368401
>>44368406
KAT?
I was planning on running it Old Republic era, because thats what I'm most familiar with. I'd rather do starting characters, but Knight-level is fine too. A mix of force-users, droids, mercenaries, and bounty hunters is great. I'd like to offer them some variety.
>>44368494
kickass torrents
>>44368494
>Old Republic era
I hope you enjoy homebrewing ships. All the stats for vehicles are based on the OT era
>>44368432
Nah, sudden competence syndrome comes from poor writing.
>>44368541
Oh, shit, of course.
>>44368548
I'll work on refluffing ships then.
>>44368548
it's just the same stats with slower hyperdrives.
Ship looks like a yt 1300? well, fug, guess what? it's a yt-1300.
Houk are pretty cool, I wish they had more art and that their TOR version were not ALL mega flabby chins.
>>44368494
I could probably whip you up some characters. It might be Monday or Tuesday before I can wrap them up, though, since I work this Saturday and Sunday.
How many players? I'll probably aim to have twice as many character options.
>>44368579
I guess thats ok for some. One of my players wants to run a TOR era F&D game, and I suggested he just use the stats to mean literally the same thing.
I'm too autistic to do that - everything for me has to be unique. But as a player, I literally don't care. Also, in said game, I wont even be playing someone who flies ships, so double win for me.
Also, best part of an Old Republic\TOR era game?
Form II isn't goddamn worthless
>>44368603
We have four players, and it'll be either Monday or Friday when we meet up. Thanks a lot.
What kind of noobtraps should I look out for when making characters myself?
>>44368642
Put as much xp into characteristics as possible, as you can't raise them in gameplay except for a 25xp skill at the bottom of each specialization tree.
>>44367725
Wouldn't it have been easier and safer to construct the government and military in such a way that there was significant civilian oversight, constitutional limits, and guarantees to check the power of the executive branch against power hungry chancellors such as Palpatine?
>>44367725
That's not exactly how things worked,. there's apparently a Remnant and the First Order, both of which have some degree of treaty with the New Republic, only the FO doesn't abide by theirs.
>>44368935
It's star wars, everyone has the IQ of a raisin. It's why their technology hasn't advanced in 4000+ years.
>>44368935
this isnt the West Wing, its Star Wars dude. I know people are going to jump the bait on this, but Star Wars isn't an intellectual discussion - its a space fantasy play about good vs evil.
>>44368978
Source? Im curious
What do you lads think of these budget-ish lists?
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Rebel%20Alliance&d=v3!s!95:19,23,-1,74:14:-1:;44:36,-1,-1,-1:-1:-1:;44:36,-1,-1,-1:-1:-1:
https://geordanr.github.io/xwing/?f=Galactic%20Empire&d=v3!s!187:10,153:-1:13:;179:152,153:-1:3:;182:150,147:-1:17:;182:150,147:-1:17:
>Quick reminder that Luke had about five minutes of training with a lightsaber and NONE of it included actually fighting against an other opponent. Remember Ben sparring with Luke? Nope. It was just him playing around with a robot that tased him
>Do you remember Yoda sparring with Luke? Nope. He was teaching him about the Force but we never saw him ONCE teaching him how to actually fight with a lightsaber. Luke had precisely ZERO experience when it came to fighting with a lightsaber. And yet none of you said anything when Luke actually kept up with Vader and later on actually defeated Vader
>>44368694
When using a force power, you roll force dice equal to your current force rating. So a starting character rolls 1 ?
>>44369045
List 1: Deadeye on Rendar is useless because none of his weapons require a target lock in the first place.
List 2: You can switch the Omega pilots to Epsilon pilots and save 4 points. The other upgrades aren't that great, and you might be better of stripping it all down to add another TIE/fo.
Anybody got any info on the Delaya-class Courier and X-9 Crescent? If it's in a book which one?
>>44369060
Yup
>>44368642
>it'll be either Monday or Friday when we meet up.
I'll try to post characters Monday afternoon, then. Their backgrounds will be very bare bones, left for the players to fill in the details.
Does anyone know a form-fillable character sheet for FFG Star Wars? That could speed this up quite a bit.
>>44369050
>luke fights a taser remote
>literally can't do shit against
>feels the force
>deflects three bolts like its no thing
>yoda teaches him how to do this on a more controlled basis
>luke fights vader
>gets fucking rekt the whole time
>luke cofronts vader again
>vader is conflicted because its his son, and he knows the emperor is going to kill him if he doesn't turn
>the whole fight, he can't bring himself to kill his own son
>luke wins by tapping into the dark side
>luke realizes exactly who he'll become if he continues down that road
>refuses to turn
its like you didn't understand the movies you were watching.
>>44369050
The canon novella "Weapon of the Jedi" actually has Luke go through lightsaber training in a decayed Jedi Temple, using multiple drones akin to what Obi-Wan had on the Falcon.
Also
>kept up with Vader
Nigga, what? Vader was toying with Luke on Bespin. He wasn't even remotely trying to kill him. And on the DS2, Vader was conflicted about his loyalty to Palpatine, or his loyalty to his son.
>>44369107
It's not in any, except the old Power of The Jedi sourcebook from Star Wars d20 (Revised)
>>44369118
I saw fillable sheets in the pastebin, on the FFG's forum resources link.
>>44369119
>Rey realizes that she's been force sensitive her whole life, taps into it, wipes the floor with an also untrained dumbass
>>44369050
Quick reminder that you're a faggot.
Quick reminder that it took Luke three years just to pull his lightsaber two feet into his hand.
Quick reminder Rey pulls the saber several yards on her first try moments after discovering she has any power at all.
Quick reminder it took Luke another year to use the mind trick, a feat previously only seen from a venerable Jedi Master.
Quick reminder Rey does this on her second try as her first use of the Force.
Quick reminder Luke had Ben's Force ghost guiding him during the trench run and on Hoth.
Quick reminder Rey never had a mentor of any sort but is an excellent pilot, linguist, staff fighter, mechanic, shooter, Force-user and lightsaber duelist all on her first try.
Quick reminder that no one really took Luke seriously at first except Ben, and even R2 was able to trick him and escape.
Quick reminder everyone loves Rey as soon as they meet her.
Quick reminder that while Kylo got grazed by the bowcaster, Rey was thrown several yards into the canopy of a tree then fell to the ground and wasn't slowed down at all.
And again, just a real quick reminder that you're a massive fucking faggot.
>>44369168
>badass who was shot, bleeding, running on adrenaline, trying not to kill rey, and then ran out of stamina at the end, because he was basically dying due to a fucking bowcaster bolt in his guts
Yeah, I guess
>>44369168
>Who also has a hole in his chest
>>44369168
I think she's had more training and experience than she lets on, or something we're not familiar with is happening.
She was put on Jakku for a reason, maybe because someone saw which way the Jedi Academy was going, and decided to stuff her away for safety.
>>44369140
Darn, alright thanks m8
>>44369107
not in any book for FFG; I can do stats for them if you like.
if you want fluff, IIRC the Tales Of The Jedi sourcebook for D6 has them
>>44369194
>>44369200
Yeah. Rey's just a particularly fast learner.
>>44369208
This factors in with the possibility that Rey is Luke's daughter.
>>44369027
I mean yeah, it'd be stupid of me to expect in depth discussions about whether or not a military is necessary for the functioning of the state, but I just feel like the "No army for the republic" is just a contrived way of moving the military situation back to what it was in ANH.
>>44369234
I think your intentionally forgettingbecause your just trying to shitpostthat apparently Lightsabers are not hard to use - Finn never used one in his life, and he didn't cut his own hands off
>>44369249
or a natural overreaction when the new head of the government is a pacifist
>>44369229
I have some stats and I know of the Tales of the Jedi fluff, I was looking for deck plans desu. Shit's hard to come by
>>44369259
>Lightsabers are not hard to use
That does seem to be something they've toned down since the EU. Possibly just because we don't have twenty thousand survivors of Order 66 sitting around.
>>44369174
The mechanic bit wasn't that strange. She'd at least have to have some knowledge, being a scavenger for a living.
You forgot to mention how she was a bonafide jedi/rebellion expert, despite the fact that all of that shit has supposedly faded into myth and obscurity. You'd think a backwater dustball populated by nothing other than scrap dealers would be the last place you'd learn about the jedi, given they were already basically unknown at the time of A New Hope.
>>44369290
can't help you there, sorry. there was a site with a TON of D6 related deckplans, that might have something, but I don't remember what it was.
>>44369290
The Delaya would be big enough to have deckplans, considering its a courier ship.
The X-9 is basically a patrol ship, slave-1 in size, basically - if it has any internal space, its small
>>44369298
I dig it - Lightsabers shouldn't be hard to use - people don't use them because their illegal, and not incredibly useful if your not a Jedi
>>44369095
How about Wired on Dash?
As for the TIEs, I just don't want to buy more fos. Maybe I could replace one with another ship or something?
>>44369234
>This factors in with the possibility that Rey is Luke's daughter.
Should probably be spoilering? though I'm not sure if that matters. I only saw the film yesterday like a loser.Kylo seems to be using some powers we're not familiar with, ones off the scripted Jedi powers list. He's breaking into people's brains and paralyzing people and blaster bolts. Rey is... falling back on familiar tricks. She's unfolding her own powers which are more familiar like Mind Trick. Ones Obi-Wan used more often. Ones Luke would have learned.It's HIGHLY probable that Rey is of the Skywalker bloodline. Her last name is left off on purpose. Anakin's lightsaber called to Rey, a representation of her family's legacy. Even her fighting style, which seems to lead with a lot of forward thrusts, is similar to the way Luke fought Vader in Return of the Jedi.
>>44369316
Pretty sure you're thinking of >http://deckplans.00sf.com/Index.html
I gotta say it's really helpful, but I'll probably end up making my own deck plans. Thanks anyways m8
>>44369259
>>44369298
In Star Wars #12, Han, Leia, and Chewie all get lightsabers (because plot weirdness). Han notes he's having a hard time using it, Chewie just goes to town with no real issue, and Leia admits it's a difficult thing to wield.
It's not impossible for non-Force-sensitives to use a lightsaber, but unless you're experienced in melee combat as it is, you're probably going to have a difficult time with one.
>>44369364
Also; the Skywalker theme plays when Rey taps into the force to fight Ren.
>>44369400
Rey does have a lifetime of experience with her staff.
>>44369414
Theme is a good catch.
Hell, I was thinking Finn was going to have to step in and help her with those scavenger jerks, but she kicks ass handily... and then goes after him next.
>>44369364
>Her last name is left off on purposeIt's highly probable that Rey isn't her actual first name either. Her salvaged pilot helmet was once owned by a Dosmit Raeh.
>>44369414
However, there is a vast difference between using a staff which can be held at and strike with any point on the weapon, and using a lightsaber, where 80% of it is plasma and all you have is a small grip.
>>44369456That's... a good theory as well.
Also catch the goddamned Beastie Boy and JJ references on Ello Asty?
>>44369489
True. Before the movie came out I was hoping she would eventually get a lightpike.
So my collection of Star Wars LEGO is one shuttle Tydirium larger. Good times.
I've also got the TFA edition of the Falcon, a B-wing, a Fury-class interceptor, and a Defender-class corvette, but those are from previous occasions.
>>44369500
I think that a lot of us were. It's a sadly underused lightsaber type.
>>44369456
>Dosmit Raeh
So when do we get a comic series about this guy?
We;ve already got one about Poe's parents
>>44369027
The Visual Dictionary mentions both the Remnanty and the First Order.
And treaties are mentioned for both.
>>44369174
She just added a little extra pull to Kylo's pull.
Interestingly enough despite Kylo's offer to teach her getting rejected hard, she actually learned a LOT from him.
Right after his mind-probe she figured out how to use a mind trick, and how to draw on his force pull and redirect it to her hand.
She seems to almost work on the same principle the Exile, Sith Assassins, and Darth Nihilus from KotOR 2 did back in the old canon.
>>44369519
It does have the downside of being really easy to rek by slashing the body of it.
>>44369500
Maybe she will. Might end up mounting that lightsaber on the end of her staff, or building her own. Finn's in a coma and in Resistance hands, and Rey is more than likely going to get some training. Given that the OT has three years between each movie, with VIII, we might well jump in three years after, possibly seeing the aftermath of the Republic's government being swept out from under it, as well as seeing what happens when the First Order starts making its formal incursion into Republic space.
It's also implied Kylos going to "finish his training," so we're going to see him get more powerful and her actually start her formal training.
