https://www.strawpoll.me/6314497/
>>44325835
Thinking of building Affinity to have another deck to play at FNM
Does anyone who has the deck have any general tips? Is it an enjoyable deck for you to play?
2nd for elves master race
>>44325918
Hillariously bad.
>>44326230
Shit deck that folds to artifact removal.
what is the average cost of a deck that can sweep FNM
>>44326376
$1100-1600, if you have to ask then you're probably not good enough for anything but a brainless tier 1 deck
>>44326230
Powerful but linear. Weak to sideboards
>>44326230
I run the mono red version so I don't know how others fair, but it's alright. Went 3-1 my first time playing it after completion and that was against a field of other tier 1s (Jund, burn and Tron x2).
It is extremely linear, so don't expect many games to be interesting.
What are some fun, interactive decks besides Twin?
>>44326547
Vortex Loam
Anyone playing ad nauseam here? Is it extremly linear? I mean, I know its a combo deck, but is it just completly solitaire?
Would she really be broken if they just swap her out for batterskull? I mean swords are decent, but it's not like they see any play without her. I actually feel like it'd be a good change that only makes the format more diverse, with no real downsides to the format.
>>44326557
Molten Vortex? That's some grade-A synergy
Got a list?
>>44326598
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/28-07-15-rug-loam-control/
It's basically Twin except instead of going infinite, it attempts to establish board control through damage output. Every time your opponent draws a dead card, you pull further and further ahead. It honestly performs well against the tier 1 decks at my LGS. Great against Twin, Merfolk, Affinity, and Burn after board.
>>44326571
It's a stupid idea to swap stoneforge for bskull. That's like banning siege rihno instead of pod.
>>44326739
It'd be like banning Sylvan Primordial instead of Sol Ring and Deadeye Navigator.
Those EDH feels.
>>44325835
>https://www.strawpoll.me/6314497/
these options fucking suck,
wheres the sure, it doesnt fucking matter option
>>44326762
Cracks me up. I love Deadeye but he's disgusting
>>44326687
Give me one good reason why there isn't a playset of tarmogoyf in there.price doesn't count
>>44326739
I think that's a bad analogy, pod is good with anything that generates value, there are a lot of midrange cards that pod wants, too many for just one ban to stop it.
On the other hand, if you ban batterskull, a stoneblade deck is largely neutered, and you can't do the most broken thing the deck can do, plus no jitte. As it stands, it might be ok or good, but it wouldn't be broken, just a new viable deck, and that's good.
>>44326839
Goyf doesn't help you control the game. I'm literally trying to play control here. I should probably put that one copy of Oona's Grace back in.
>>44326839
Being the only creature in an otherwise creatureless deck means that their removal isn't dead and you'd end up having to waste your counters saving it's ass.
>>44326839
not him but it seems to me like he wants to be a control deck and goyf is a beatdown card. He's got other expensive cards in there, I'm not sure if price was the reason for its exclusion.
>>44326846
While I think we're in agreement that sfm should come off the list; however I don't think nixing bskull is required. Call me nuts but I feel the format can cope well enough with a powered sfm. At least jitte isn't a thing;_;
Why is Stoneforge Mustic so fucking expensive to buy if shes banned?
I dont do much of the buying and selling of cards so I guess im just missing something
>>44327080
Legacy decks that run her use 4 copies of her.
>>44327080
Modern isn't the only format
>>44327016
Oh, I must've come across the wrong way, I don't want Batterskull gone either, I just can't imagine wizards keeping both in the format. I think the whole format would benefit from getting shook up once every year or so, some crazy shit like Jace and Bloodbraid unbans, too conservative in my opinion.
>>44327111
>Bloodbraid unbans
Nobody is going to listen to you when you say dumb shit
You can't comprehend how broken jund would be?
>>44327080
She's a really good card. Really good cards offten have really big prices. Even banned cards.
>>44327080
She's good in Legacy where she's legal, and there was a bit of a spike as some people thought the promo meant she was getting unbanned in Modern. Near as I can tell SCG is exacerbating the problem by using the hype as an excuse to do what they do best: pull their copies and jack up the price.
>>44327154
So why is Bitterblossom expensive? The card isn't played anywhere due to being utter garbage.
>>44327176
Price memory, and as >>44327173 observed SCG sets the prices on stuff like that.
>>44327176
Sometimes really bad cards are really popular with scrubs. See: Glimps the Unthinkable
>>44327176
Bitterblossom was busted back in the old extended format when Faeries was actually a thing.
>>44327149
I think the last few months of Jund's overbearing results before the Bloodbraid ban were largely due to Deathrite Shaman. Bloodbraid is good, but it didn't hold a candle to deathrite. Plus, you didn't bat an eyelid when I mentioned a Jace unban, which in itself would necessitate a Bloodbraid unban, so I don't know why you think it's so good.
>>44326416
>Tier 1
>Brainless
Jund Affinity Grixis Twin and Junk are brainless??
>>44327176
Amazing art and price memory from when it was good in extended.
Will we see an Inquisition of Kozilek reprint you think?
>>44327331
Why does everyone insist BBE is the Anti-Jace??
>>44327410
I really would expect wizards to set aside the modern reprints for the winter/spring sets to ride the modern hype that modern season brings. That combined with the set being about Kozilek makes me say yes.
>>44327410
Not in standard.
>>44327422
Value/Haste creatures are the best way to contain him
That being said, I think jace would break twin and make it tier 0 so I'd rather not bring him into the format
>>44327495
Wouldn't make much sense with the precedent set by the cards in the first set.
>>44327422
It's not anti-Jace, it just matches up very well. Jace will either: brainstorm for value, or bounce when he comes in to protect himself. BBE then kills it if they have no board, which is pretty common. It's very rare for a Jace to come in to play and fateseal straight away.
Not to mention the fact that BBE will help to even out the value they get from Jace.
There's a big reason blue control decks weren't a real thing, even with Jace, in standard while Jund was king.
>>44326230
Sideboard in against opponent's sideboards. Leyline of Sanctity is useful.
Additionally, try race out the opponent by including Frogmites and Day's Undoing. It's hilarious.
7 Blinky's/Inky's and 4 Mox Opals. Practically the law.
It pilots weird, you need to really know what you're doing with the thing because it's not quite aggro, midrange or control. I do find other decks more fun to play like B/W Tokens.
It's still tier 1 though, because you'd be hard pushed to find a deck that lays on a smack down as quickly, reliably and unavoidably as Affinity.
>>44327529
Just looking at BFZ as a set I see zero cards that are reprints of modern staples or obvious modern plants, with the focus on standard and draft. Now look at last years winter set, Fate Reforged. Many cards from FRF have shaken up modern (Gurmag/Tasigur, Monestary Mentor, and Ugin) and that was for a year that still had core sets AND Modern Masters as reprint outlets. If wizards wants to sell product during modern season they should be looking to appeal to modern with their set, and if they think a card might make waves in modern they will probably try holding onto it for the winter set, they have also been reprinting more cards in their expert level expansions to make up for the loss of the core set (see Dragonmaster Outcast and Felidar Sovereign).
Was wondering if someone could give me their opinions on my Blue/White deck from the Theros block. Life Gain/Mill/Extra Turns
>>44327663
While I hope you're right, I'm not holding my breath.
Wishlist for gatewatch:
>a really wicked GB/UR manland
>just one more piece of tech for tron
>>44327729
Your droids will have to wait outside.
>>44327729
Block Constructed isn't a format anymore, and Theros Block constructed was only around for pro tour Journey into Nyx and was quickly forgotten. But if I remember correctly, Chapin won with Abzan (Then called Junk) Midrange. He beat Abzan constellation in the finals. The other decks were all BUG control and maybe a heroic deck??
>>44327937
I only said that because pretty much all of the cards in the deck are from Theros block. I'll still play against any deck/legality though.
>>44327729
>Gain/Mill/Extra Turns
Well there's your problem; you have 3 gameplans instead of 1.
>>44327729
How do you cope with a resolved karn?
>>44328019
I have multiple game plans/combos so I don't have to rely on just one to win.
>>44328086
That sounds great in your head, but in practice it's a terrible thing. Tron doesn't run fetchlands and Wild Nacatls just incase it needs a beatdown backup plan because it'd make the deck's gameplan weak to the point where it would be awful. Burn doesn't run counterspells because they run contrary to the gameplan of proactive face melting.
I don't need to see your deck to know it's not even remotely competitive.
>>44328051
Lubricant.
>>44327982
I feel like you have some reading to do, amigo.
>>44327729
I don't see why people keep knocking your deck. Sage+Sunbond+Daxos=Infinite Turns.
I'd hate to play against it.
>>44328421
Daxos with Lifelink or eidolon or sunbond.
>>44328421
>I don't see why people keep knocking your deck
Because you see, samefag, it's a bad deck
>>44326376
>>44326416
Or a lolTrollworship deck for 50 bucks if you have predictable tier 1/2 $1000 meta
>>44327376
>Jund
Literally brainless.
>Affinity
Once you work out how to spaff your hand it's relatively brainless.
>Grixis
Sure I could give you that one, but it's just a bad control deck.
>Twin
I guess.
>Junk
Same shit as Jund, brainless as fuck.
>>44329002
I've only played against that deck once, and I did win, but it was pretty challenging, and i'd love to see something like that get more popular just to shake things up a bit.
>>44329002
>>44329212
last time I saw a troll worship list it ran 4 gofys and lilis..
>>44329231
i mean not lilies, i mean noble hierarchs
What are good Twin sideboard cards for the burn matchup? My meta has a lot of burn
What's the best counter to use against Burn? Probably Mana Leak or Spell Pierce right?
>>44329251
Ah I played against the standard list I think, at least I assume it was.
I'm guessing the main reason it isn't played more is it looks poor vs burn and vs edict effects.
I play mostly on modo so tend to see all those jank budget decks more, and some do feel close to actually being viable.
>>44329267
Flashfreeze best counterspell probably.
Grixis twin you can try vampiric link out.
>>44329307
what? when was worship and the troll both in standard?
>>44329365
Sorry I meant the normal list, without goyfs etc, the normal budget troll worship stuff.
>>44327729
Check out the Taking Turns deck.
>>44329365
Mirrodin came out right after 8th Edition.
Is there a name for a deck that purposefully gives other players life or can I call it whatever?
>>44329778
Helpful Henry.dec
>>44329778
whats your wincon? maybe call it welfare or smth simliar
>>44329778
Reverse Burn?
>>44329778
There are very strict guidelines to naming a deck. Don't fuck this up anon.
http://i.imgur.com/Gq8DrqU.png
Why is Matt Sperling so based?
>>44329778
Plsnobully.dwc
>>44329778
Didntwanttowinanyway.dec
>>44329778
I think it's called a bad deck
>>44329778
It's called
> tfw no punishing fire in modern
>>44329778
Whatistarmogyf.dec
>>44329778
Punishing Jund.
>>44329852
It's a budget deck to deal with this asshole at my FNM who loves to extort his enemies to death and exile all your shit. People allow him to play with a playset of Sol Rings and no one cares, I'm tired of his shit.
For now the win con is Overwhelming Stampede with a pumped up Kavu Predator and cheap token support. If it works as well as I think it will I'll likely move on from mono green to GW for Swords to Plowshares and Wall of Shards.
>>44329985
Nature's claim for those pesky sol rings.
>>44330041
Already ordered a playset from Conspiracy, thanks anyways senpai.
>>44329251
>>44329307
There's the budget 50 buck version and an expensive version that splashes blue for counters. Both versions exist as the cheapest (in both sense of the word) to hate on every major deck on the format since no one runs pure runs pure enchant removal maindeck. It only cares about burn if they're running destructive revelry which they aren't going to or of do game one and certainly not as a four of, or hold on to bump in the nights which is life loss and not damage Affinity can only win past worship if it kills via infect or is faster.
>>44329985
What format is this suppose to be?
>>44330121
Can you maybe link the 50 bucks version? Reading the primer currently, and it seems almost impossible to strip everything espensive off of it
>>44330124
My deck is modern, his deck is shameful casual. I'm aware of the better card support in legacy but I just wanted deck naming advice. Probably going to go with reverse burn.
>>44330143
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/budget-magic-84-65-tix-modern-troll-worship
>>44329121
Someone has never played half of those decks
>>44329121
What's with this e-peen measuring contest about "brainless vs thoughtful" decks? Obviously some decks require more thought than others but like it's not usually that big of a gap. Like the biggest would probably be burn vs storm or something.
>>44329778
There's a legacy deck called The Cure, I think, althought that might be a bit different.
>>44325835
DINDU NUFFIN
>>44330375
The decks you don't like are thoughtless
The decks you play are thoughtful
>>44330375
People get mad when they lose, obviously whatever they are going to lose to has to be bad on some level, so the deck is brainless, easy etc etc
It's just what angry retards do to justify their butthurt, I don't like playing against burn or affinity but I'm not going to pretend like their mindless decks where you win with the right hand etc etc
Thoughts on my modern brew? It's budget, particularly the landbase, and certainly isn't T1. Mainly geared toward FNM.
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/22-12-15-mardu-tempo/
>>44330888
>>44331170
I actually like it a lot. You ever thought about putting MMentor in there?
>>44331170
Maybe grims and eidolons, since it is a burn deck after all.
>>44331318
Yeah, I actually own a playset, but the 3cmc-2toughness problem is a pretty big one. Higher ceiling, but bigger risk. Not sure how I feel about it.
>>44331489
>since it is a burn deck after all
But it isn't, though
>>44327331
Alright bloodbraid elf cascade trigger
>oh, there's a tarmogoyf
>opps, enjoy a free kolaghan's command
>there's my lilly
>Well I guess I'll point this terminate at your best threat for free
>hey, I could awyas use a bolt
And Hey! a 3/3 with haste excellent!
>>44329267
Monastery Siege. I run it 3 in my UR Twin and 3 in my UTRON sideboards. That card shuts down not only burn but a lot of shit in general
>>44331533
Run a playset of Apostles Blessings with him for laffs. Or I suppose Brave the Elements would work better
Any way to tutor a red spell? Like Merchant Scroll but for red/not color based?
>>44331964
Gamble
>>44332027
sadly not modern legal
What are some of the best cards for splashing black in a deck other than kola command and seize/iok
>>44332276
Terminate
Murderous Cut
Tasigur
Abrupt Decay
Lingering Souls
Dismember
Tidehollow Sculler
Bitterblossom
Dark Confidant
I guess it kinda depends on what deck you splash black in, cause a lot of these are multicolor.
Thoughts on Bx Eldrazi Processors?
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-mono-black-eldrazi#paper
http://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-br-eldrazi#paper
>>44332910
Sounds like a desperate attempt to make something out of the whole lotta nothing Wizards has been churning out lately.
>>44332910
Interesting, but needs more "Oops I win" turn 4 combos :^)
>>44332910
>>44332975
>>44332996
Here's the MTGS link that explain how the deck works.
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/the-game/modern/deck-creation-modern/651774-bx-eldrazi-processors
>>44332037
Ah, slipped my mind. That would be a fun modern card
Does white specifically have any ways to fuck over Tron?
So I brewed something stupid from shit that's just been lying around: basically GR using Loam and Vortex to control the board, with a white splash to bring back fatties or Witnesses that get dredged. Any thoughts on how to change/add to the main (aside from scrapping the idea)?
4 Burning-Tree Emissary
4 Eternal Witness
1 Akroma, Angel of Fury
1 Sigarda, Host of Herons
4 Molten Vortex
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Magmatic Insight
4 Life from the Loam
2 Crucible of Worlds
2 Unburial Rites
4 Ghost Quarter
>>44333634
Stony Silence is pretty good
>>44333224
>medium to fucking shit matchups aginst Infect, Affinity, Twin, BloomTitan, Tron and Merfolk
Shittyparasiticmeme deck
>>44331533
I'll be frank, I didn't really look at it thoroughly
>>44333732
Why do none of these lists run countryside crusher? He begs to be in assault loam
Can any of you solve a doubt of mine? I dont want to make a new thread.
Can I target a tapped creature with this card and expect targeted creature to not untap?
Sorry for poor english
>>44334577
Yes, you can target a tapped creature and the creature will not untap. Tapping the creature and the creature not untapping are two separate effects of the ability and do not depend on actually tapping the creature from an untapped state.
>>44334577
Yes. The effect resolves and tries to do as much as possible, which in this case means making the creature not untap.
>>44334623
>>44334640
thanks, i thought the effect could be negated or something since the card is already tapped and that condition didn't resolve
Post best boros cards
Hard mode: no boros charm or helix
>>44334850
I like Boros Charm just for the art in addition to how good it is.
The best red white card that's not Helix or charm is Deflecting Palm but if you're talking about exclusively Boros from Ravnica then I guess it's Aurelia.
>>44334532
I considered Crusher. It's not recursive like E Witness nor is it an evasive beater with built-in protection like Akroma or Sigarda. But since there's some space I might consider it.
>>44333880
>Good matchup with Jund
Haha, yeah ok. When did MTGsalvation become so meme?
>>44334850
figure of destiny was legendary back in the day
>>44334522
Then why comment at all?
>>44334850
always liked this guy
>>44335460
LSV playing UR Twin lost to BR Eldrazi in the MOCS, pal.
>>44335460
>miren the moaning well helps u win against scapeshift!
Spend 3 mana to gain some life!
>>44336710
What does this have to do with jund?
>>44336475
Amen brother.
I'm actually brewing a boros skred list and this guy is an all star. If he's not taken care of soon you pretty much can't lose
Challenge: Make a card that isn't horribly broken that fits ONLY in the deck of your choice and that deck alone; it isn't viable in any other deck
>>44337459
W/B 2
Creature tokens get +1+1 and have lifelink
Sacrifice a creature: creatures you control gain deathtouch.
1/4
>>44337509
For w/b tokens I assume
But that lifelink might be strong enough to spawn more token decks
>>44337459
Third Sunrise
WWW
Instant
Return to the battlefield all non-creature artifacts in your graveyard that were put there from the battlefield this turn. Exile Third Sunrise.
>>44337509
3 drop faerie
1UB
Flash Flying
2/2
When it enters the battlefield, draw X cards and lose X life where X is the number of faeries you control
>>44337653
> Make a card that isn't horribly broken
> 3 mana 2/2 flash flier that AT MINIMUM cantrips and after that becomes a better Painful Truths
Learn what "not horribly broken" is anon
>>44337459
Jund Charm 2
GRB
Choose one
>Creatures you control gain hexproof until EOT
>Creatures you control gain double strike until EOT
>Destroy target creature. It can't be regenerated
Kinda simple but I like all the modes and its just what came first to mind
>>44326230
I've played it and against it and it's not as a difficult a deck to pilot as people make it out to be, that or I guess maybe I've been playing long enough that I can just quickly analyse and figure out the line of play in most decks faster than most people. Except maybe Eggs, still not good with that deck.
Deck is a very effective and linear in what it does and gives you a good chance of winning against many matchups game 1. Games 2 and Games 3 are generally worse off for you after decks bring in hate but you're up 1 game anyway so you can sneak it in. Personally speaking while the deck is effective I find it just boring to pilot, it's the same problem I have with Amulet Bloom. I know how to play it, I know it's a strong deck but I just don't want to play it because it bores me.However I'm sure there are other people who play the deck and find enjoyment on it on other levels so if it clicks with you then don't let me stop you from playing it.
>>44337459
W/G
Elf Shaman - Creature
W, tap: target creature gains protection from the color of your choice until EOT.
G, tap: add G or W to your mana pool.
0/1
>>44339003
err, change the G, tap part to:
G, tap: put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control.
>>44334850
Wear // Tear
>>44339122
CMC of split cards are both halves added up right?
>>44339172
Split cards have weird rules
>>44339172
Nope, the CMC of split cards is both sides, individually. Not sure about how Fuse cards work when you cast both sides on the stack. But Wear // Tear is BOTH CMC 1 and CMC 2, red and white when in your deck. I'm not fully sure on the rules but it might also not be multicoloured because neither half is multicoloured.
>>44339207
4/15/2013 Some split cards with fuse have two monocolor halves of different colors. If such a card is cast as a fused split spell, the resulting spell is multicolored. If only one half is cast, the spell is the color of that half. While not on the stack, such a card is multicolored.
>>44339172
>>44339207
If fused, then wear // tear has CMC 3 on the stack.
>>44339207
>>44339258
So how would it work with cascade? It would just go with the lower cost?
>>44334850
It's purely for my tastes rather than utility, but Assemble the Legion is my most beloved Boros card.
It's so red and so white.
>>44339331
you can cascade into either side if one of the sides fits the bill
cascade into breaking/entering is my favorite shitty fringe deck
>>44336917
>Boros Skred
Gonna have to see a list for this.
>>44341048
I think that list runs Swans of Brynn Argoll
>>44337618
>refueling Ravager
nah
>>44341129
I get that you can do the same but turning your opponent's bolts into Ancestral Recalls seems dubious
>>44339331
If it works the same as with countertop, it should count as either cmc.
>>44329267
spell snare is also really good, you want to take out eidolons asap
flashfreeze is ok too
>>44342717
Isn't it for eggs?
>>44342855
It's obviously for eggs, I've never seen someone even want to combo off a ravager
How is UB faeries not absolutely Bananas?
It has an incredible amount of disruption while still filling the field with creatures.
I've had a blast with it on Cockatrice but can't justify buying into it when I already have Merfolk in paper.
Is Merfolk actually good or is it just a meme deck?
>>44344410
Slivers are better desu
any big fat artifact (or artifact creatures) with lots of utility for my artifact reanimator deck?
>>44344410
Its T1, and everytime I see it its seems to do fine
>>44344410
Why it wouldn't be good? What's meme about hitting opponent with unblockable 5/5 or with 10 elementals.
>>44334850
I like things like
>Cerodon Yearling
>Truefire paladin
I wonder if it's possible to make fast alpha strike boros deck with boros charm backing.
>>44344979
Wurmcoil in U Tron is the only thing that comes to mind.
>>44345161
I currently have:
Wurmcoil
Sundering Titan
Inkwell Leviathan
Sphinx of the Steel Wind
Sharuum the Hegemon
but these are all just huge fatties, nothing with really utility
>>44345179
This thread is for discussion of the modern format
>>44345656
yes, and these are all modern legal
>>44345668
ur shit is mad casual
step up
>>44345738
im testing it online, and so far its not even that bad. ive won against some T2 decks. That sounds bad, but considering im building this deck since yesterday im considering that a sucess
>>44344410
I played the deck for a very long time. It does so poorly in certain matchups that, for a long time, I didn't win a single game with it at FNM. Eventually I dropped it. My advice is to pick something more interactive.
I created a deck revolved around Worldfire if anyone wants to check it out.
Combo: Oblivion Ring -> Creature with haste + Worldfire
http://www.mtgvault.com/felonary/decks/the-apocalypse/
Creative input and feedback appreciated.
Ded
>>44348115
>>44348115
Not ded
>>44346192
>interactive
There's that word again
I'm still sitting here tryna figure out what it's supposed to mean
>>44344343
Pyroclasm
>>44348281
Use a dictionary, you literal retard
>>44348362
>hurrrr you're the retard even though I'm the one pretending to not understand the question
> Going vs Affinity
> lost game 1 cause he throws all his hand and i could not answer
> I sideboard 2 stony silence, chalice of the void, fracturing gust and feed the clan
>No sideboard card in my opening hand
> Mulligan agressive til 3 cards
>Still no hate.
> I don't draw any single hate card and lose the game
Yeah, i hate unfair decks a lot
>>44348415
I thought unfair decks were combo not aggro
>>44348434
Unfair decks are any deck that need specific sideboard cards to be beated (combo are the most, but not the only ones)
>>44348281
It means what the english word means.
They play a creature you remove it.
They attack, you block.
You interact with what they are doing but merfolk don't care if you have a goyf down or not, they are still just playing lords and going face no matter what you are doing.
>>44348457
Interactive is not a good word for what you mean then
Using a lord that makes your creatures unblockable is interacting with your opponents' strategy of blocking your creatures
Everything you do in magic is interaction
it seems like people use the word to discuss decks they have an irrational and specific dislike for, and they try to frame their opinion as if it was logical and meaningful rather than just shitty whining
Also what are counterspells and cursecatchers but "interaction" just like removing or blocking??
Fucking modern players make me sick to my stomach with their elitist faggotry
>>44337459
2GW
Enchantment
Whenever an opponent gains life, you gain that much life.
G/W: Target opponent gains 1 life.
>>44348415
>mulligan to 3
>lose
>hurr it's my opponent's fault! his deck's unfair!
>>44348415
>Mulligan agressive til 3 cards
Dumbass spotted
>>44348573
Nigga are you really that retarded that you can't understand a term that has been used by thousands of players, for all formats since forever?
>Using a lord that makes your creatures unblockable is interacting with your opponents' strategy of blocking your creatures
>Everything you do in magic is interaction
Yeah, and drawing cards each turn is interaction because it's interactiong with your opponent's strategy of making you have 0 cards in hand which is something every player want's for his opponent. Also your example is retarded both because not every deck has creature or is interested in blocking and because making your creatures unblockable works to take away interaction from your opponent not to interact with them.
You are the only one with the issue here, not every other player.
On the topic of side boarding against affinity, I don't bother siding when I play bloom against it. The matchup is just so abysmal that if I don't get a fast combo kill, I'm losing. Am I approaching this like a retard?
>>44347210
Throw in some creatures that can champion a creature, Changeling Berserker would likely be your best option. Makes it less obvious what you're trying to pull off.
Boros Prison-Bridge deck, what do you guys think? This may be my introductory deck to the format.
http://deckstats.net/deck-8635340-0dcc9fd513f3f2f65181ac46228e18c8.html
>>44348722
You are taking an auto loss against a common matchup, i think it's a bad call
>>44348573
>Using a lord that makes your creatures unblockable is interacting with your opponents' strategy of blocking your creatures
What? This makes no sense.
"I bolt your face."
"Aha! You are interacting with my strategy of not wanting to lose the game to burn!"
>>44348804
Tryhard, look for an easy deck to know the format, when you know the common strategies, you can brew
>>44348577
This is awful. 4 mana to do what? leech off a bad soul sisters hand?
Perhaps get infinite life along with the melira player? that won't help when they just Scry into redcap
>>44348836
That's not exactly true. Adding in hate cards in a combo deck like bloom reduces the combo efficiency. He's just turning the matchup into a race instead of siding in nature's claims or something.
>>44348804
It's not a good strategy, and never has been.
>>44348691
You are abusing the term. Dredge is non interactive because it only interacts with graveyard removal, and basically ignores the stack. Storm is non interactive because it only cares about stack based or discard based interaction.
Lord of Atlantis is a creature which can be countered, killed or blocked. They attack with a pile of creatures, you kill a Lord and block them. There is a lot of possible interesting interaction. You not having any isn't their fault
okey, since everyone is posting their janky deck, heres mine ive been working on the last days.
Trash for Treasure control:
http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/22-12-15-trash-for-treasure/
>>44348879
It's a nice simple enchantment I can dump my mana into that goes along with the deck I built and only my deck, what the original person was asking for. I'm the guy who brought up Kavu Predator before.
>>44348940
But their deck isn't interactive. If you have removal for their Lords, you are interacting.
>>44348900
Yeah that's true, but I feel like you'll generally lose that race if they have relevant hate and you have none
>>44348940
>>Lord of Atlantis is a creature which can be countered, killed or blocked
Your opponent is the one doing those things, they are the ones interacting with YOU and you as the fish player is doing none of those things, you as the fish player want to avoid interacting with what your opponent in every form (blocking, using removal on their creatures etc) because if you are blocking their shit it means you are losing the game and going off your gameplan which involves ignoring their shit and killing them ASAP.
>>44348954
Your whole strategy is moronic though.
Giving your opponent life to buff your kavu - which has no protection or evasion - is redundant. He'll be big but you don't profit because you've been boosting their life total
>>44348993
Define interaction. Cause you aren't using it properly by my definition.
Them having a play that counters your play sounds like interaction to me. It's not like they are even unconditionally unlockable.
>>44349030
Yes, the aggressor in a matchup is going to be the one deploying threats
>>44348941
Not sure Wellsprings and Citadels are good enough to reliably enable your reanimation trick here.
My project for the day was:
4 Birds of Paradise
4 Eternal Witness
3 Reanimation Targets
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
4 Lightning Bolt
3 Molten Vortex
3 Path to Exile
4 Life from the Loam
2 Mulch
1 Seismic Assault
2 Gifts Ungiven
3 Unburial Rites
4 Flooded Strand
1 Windswept Heath
1 Bloodstained Mire
4 Ghost Quarter
1 Godless Shrine
1 Steam Vents
2 Temple Garden
2 Sacred Foundry
1 Hallowed Fountain
1 Breeding Pool
2 Copperline Gorge
2 Seachrome Coast
2 Mountain
1 Forest
1 Plains
The usual reanimation targets would be Sigarda, Elesh Norn, and Iona. Not sure I like the two-of Gifts here: I like the card, but I feel like if something's got to go Gifts is the first place to start. And since the deck feels so unfocused, something probably ought to go.
Lands are also a mess because they're what I have on hand.
>>44349001
Affinity has spell pierce or maybe blood moon for bloom? Spell pierce won't help much and if moon resolves bloom is done anyway, so i don't really see a problem with it.
>>44349049
>Cause you aren't using it properly by my definition.
Oh that's okay, I'll just keep using it correctly by the real world definition
>>44349076
You would think that, but it really is enough. I've played around 20 matches or so with this version today and yesterday, and never had I a problem with actually having a sacrifice for the spell.
>>44349098
On second look, with mulligans it's not as bad as it seemed. But I'm sure there are better options.
>>44349039
You only know a few parts of my deck. Of course I'm running cards that will protect my Kavu, getting him out and buffing him is the sole purpose of my deck. With trample I can easily get rid of the life I gave my opponents. The only thing I would need to fear is a board wipe, but almost all of my cards are really cheap to cast anyways, several of them free even, so it's not that hard to set back up.
>>44349169
You often don't have the spell on your hand anyway, so when you cycle trough your deck you'll hit one almost 100%. Seriously, this has never been a problem for me so far, maybe the xMage algorythm is rigged but I've always had at least 1 or 2 of them on turn 3.
>>44349092
By the dictionary definition, nothing would be non-interactive
I define it as "not being effected by the most widely types of interaction, like permenant destruction or counterspells"
Thinking of taking this tonight. Not expecting to take it all the way but will I atleast not get stomped to shit with this?
Anyone else pumped for this guy in modern? Motherfucker looks insane in a tempo shell.
I have sets of Eternal Witness, Restoration Angel, and Ghost Quarter that are begging to be used for something mean. Aside from baiting a T2 counterspell and chaining Summoning Traps into Restoration Angel+Kiki-Jiki what are some mean things I can do?
>>44349922
Just play Kiki Chord. Its a really good deck and relatively cheap.
>>44349922
If you're a bad enough dude you could run all of those in Wg Death and Taxes. The mana is sketchy, but Noble Heirarch makes it work well enough.
>>44347210
You could use outpost siege on dragons so that the trigger resolves after everyone's life total is 1 and kills them.
What is a necessary shell for a gifts deck?
>>44350307
Wrapping paper
>>44349049
I think people generally confuse linear with non-interactive.
>modern general, edh General, standard general
>even a general for a custom made-up format
>no legacy general
Why does /tg/ hate the best format?
>>44350607
Because none of us can afford vintage
>>44350607
Nothing to do with hating the format, more to do with the barrier of entry thus the small (and getting smaller) community.
>>44350790
I always figured most of /tg/ didn't play paper magic, but even among people who play on cockatrice I'm basically the only one of my friends who actively enjoys legacy.
>>44350355
Why was this post deleted? It's not impossible to respond to Worldfire.
>>44350863
>not using xMage
Paper Magic is the only real magic for me, only playing online to try new decks out. There just isnt a legacy scene here where I live, only modern. I also dislike the blue dominance.
>>44350920
I can't imagine playing paper legacy, regardless of price. When shuffling takes milliseconds it's fine, but 10+ seconds each time? I don't want to spend more time shuffling than playing.
>>44351044
This doesn't happen. Legacy is also one of the fastest formats as well as the most fun.
>>44350920
Blue's not so bad. It makes it so my d&t doesn't automatically loose to storm and belcher. Most people don't expect a mindbreak trap in the sideboard.
>>44325835
R8 my shitbrew WUB Delver
4x Delver of Secrets
4x Dark Confidant
2x Brimaz, King Of Oreskos
4x Path to Exile
4X Serum Visions
4x Remand
4x Dismember
2X Spell Pierce
4x Inquisition Of Kozilek
2x Gitaxian Probe
4x Lingering Souls
2x Timely Reinforcements
20 land
>>44349921
Too expensive, doesn't do anything when it enters.
>>44351290
Who is olivia voldaren?
It's a pretty decent card. Will likely stick around to do something too.
>>44349921
>in modern
lol
>looks insane in a tempo shell.
This has to be bait.
>>44349921
Maybe in BW Tokens in the Sideboard for aggro matchups?
>>44349921
if it had flying and its ability was cheaper then possibly
>>44351290
4 toughness, bro. I'd be worried if he failed the bolt test, but as it is he dodges bolt and abrupt. That's a pretty good spot to be sitting in, removal-wise.
>>44351337
Does need some evasion though.
>>44351346
The only ability that matters is free. He turns kill spells into grave hate and 2/2 bodies. The rest might as well be trinket text.
>>44349787
You will lose every game, the only card in there that is a modern card is Monastery Swiftspear
>>44347210
Quicken -> Gut Shot -> Worldfire with Gut Shot on stack
>>44351384
>Path
>>44351499
Path also kills goyf, but you dont hear people complaining about that
>>44349787
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>44351522
This
>>44351499
He's resilient, not invulnerable. A card being answerable has never stopped it from making an impact in modern. What matters is how answerable, and to what common cards it folds.
>>44351522
If you don't see the difference then I think the casual general may be more your speed
>>44351522
>>44351536
Not him, but goyf costs half his mana and has a bigger body.
